[CentOS-docs] ArtWork - How to collaborate

2008-09-12 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
Hi,

What do you think of adding some verbose about how to collaborate on
ArtWork ? Actually I put the following:

-
Collaborate

If you want to help, the following resources are available:

   1. Mailing lists: Introduce and discuss your ideas (in CentOS-devel list.).
   2. Artwork svn repository: Add your ideas.
   3. Artwork Trac instance: Browse changes friendly, document
changes, submit tickets ...
-

at the end of http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork page. Are they the right
steps to follow? Is that page the right place for that ?

Cheers,
al.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] ArtWork - How to collaborate

2008-09-12 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Alain.

 What do you think of adding some verbose about how to collaborate on
 ArtWork ? Actually I put the following:

Currently, most of the work is done by yourself. You have setup test
systems and are working on projects like Mantis design (and maybe
re-design of the main page)

So it's hard to get involved besides suggestions and comments.

 Collaborate

That would be great ;)

 If you want to help, the following resources are available:

   1. Mailing lists: Introduce and discuss your ideas (in CentOS-devel list.).

I would personally prefer a seperate Artwork ML where technical
details can be discussed. Results could still be announced on -devel.

   2. Artwork svn repository: Add your ideas.

We should keep all updates in SVN. This would make things much easier
(even to decide who is working on which parts). It would also be great
if SIG members could have access to test DOMs, so it's not necessary
to set up local installations.

   3. Artwork Trac instance: Browse changes friendly, document
 changes, submit tickets ...

 at the end of http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork page. Are they the right
 steps to follow? Is that page the right place for that ?

I am not sure on that, yet. If we are planning to use Trac, the wiki
page should just link to it (as Trac does include a wiki, too). Afaik
livecd is almost happening on Trac.

Therefore Trac is one of the things that needs to be de-uglyfied, too.

The advantage of the Wiki is that it already integrates well in the
existing .org world. Trac pages are hard to find, Trac URLs are not
easy to remember (yet) and the Tracs are not announced clearly on the
main site.

Here is step 4:

We need to set up something like a timeline or a plan. There are
several projects going on atm like Mantis or the $LANG sites, where
it's not yet clear (to me) what is going to happen or already
happening but kept secret.

Best Regards
Marcus
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Re: [CentOS-docs] ArtWork - How to collaborate

2008-09-12 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
On 9/12/08, Marcus Moeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Alain.
...
 Currently, most of the work is done by yourself. You have setup test
 systems and are working on projects like Mantis design (and maybe
 re-design of the main page)

 So it's hard to get involved besides suggestions and comments.

Even suggestions and comments are very very very helpful actions, what
is needed to get people involved beyond that ?

   1. Mailing lists: Introduce and discuss your ideas (in CentOS-devel
 list.).

 I would personally prefer a seperate Artwork ML where technical
 details can be discussed. Results could still be announced on -devel.

That is probably into the developers' plans.

   2. Artwork svn repository: Add your ideas.

 We should keep all updates in SVN. This would make things much easier
 (even to decide who is working on which parts).

I'm agree.

 It would also be great
 if SIG members could have access to test DOMs, so it's not necessary
 to set up local installations.

Don't know what you exactly want to mean with 'have access to test
DOMs, so it's not necessary to set up local installations' . Local
installation of what ?

DOMs = Document Object Models ?

   3. Artwork Trac instance: Browse changes friendly, document
 changes, submit tickets ...

 at the end of http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork page. Are they the right
 steps to follow? Is that page the right place for that ?

 I am not sure on that, yet. If we are planning to use Trac, the wiki
 page should just link to it (as Trac does include a wiki, too). Afaik
 livecd is almost happening on Trac.

Well, don't know if correct but, wiki.centos.org is for general
documentation, trac would be used to document specificities of each
project.

...

 Here is step 4:

 We need to set up something like a timeline or a plan. There are
 several projects going on atm like Mantis or

Definitely. Does the work done at the moment could help on building a
timeline or plan for actual and further works ? and is something
missing to complete the needed parts of the distribution redesign.

 the $LANG sites, where
 it's not yet clear (to me) what is going to happen or already
 happening but kept secret.

Actually afaik, to get $LANG sites is need a common design, something
that fits what we have on the wiki, trac, and recently in mantis. To
do that the application proposed was Puntal. Personally, I tried to
reach http://www.puntal.fr and my DNS couldn't resolved the related IP
address of that site. Have any of you the same situation ?

Cheers,
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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0884 Important CentOS 3 s390(x) libxml2 - security update

2008-09-12 Thread Pasi Pirhonen
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0884

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0884.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

s390:
updates/s390/RPMS/libxml2-2.5.10-13.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/libxml2-devel-2.5.10-13.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/libxml2-python-2.5.10-13.s390.rpm

s390x:
updates/s390x/RPMS/libxml2-2.5.10-13.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/libxml2-devel-2.5.10-13.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/libxml2-python-2.5.10-13.s390x.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0884 Important CentOS 4 s390(x) libxml2 - security update

2008-09-12 Thread Pasi Pirhonen
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0884

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0884.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

s390:
updates/s390/RPMS/libxml2-2.6.16-12.5.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/libxml2-devel-2.6.16-12.5.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/libxml2-python-2.6.16-12.5.s390.rpm

s390x:
updates/s390x/RPMS/libxml2-2.6.16-12.5.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/libxml2-devel-2.6.16-12.5.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/libxml2-python-2.6.16-12.5.s390x.rpm


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Re: [CentOS-es] Recomendacion servidor

2008-09-12 Thread Gino Francisco Alania Hurtado

Solo instala centos y de ahi :

yum -y install httpd php mysql mysql-server php-mysql gd php-gd proftpd 
postfix   



listo :

En las versiones Centos 5.2 viene php 5-x y mysqol 5.x

slds

Richard Lopez escribió:
Quisiera pedirles una recomendacion de que sistema operativo linux 
instalar , mejor dicho un paquete que contenga web, correo ,ftp.
 
He utilizado el SMEServer pero tiene php 4 y necesito la version 5. 
Tambien he utilizado qmailtoaster pero la verdad me trajo muchos 
problemas.
 
Ojala me puedan recomendar otro que soporte php5
 
Por anticipado gracias por la ayuda
 
Richard



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Re: [CentOS] A very interesting cinfiguration page for centos

2008-09-12 Thread David Hrbáč
Bob Hoffman napsal(a):
 Thought I would share this..not sure exactly what it is...but I wish I could
 pull out my configurations with a program like this...
 
 
 
 http://www.openeyet.nl/scc/examples/scc.centos50.html
 

Yes, there is also dconf http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/dconf/
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread Josh Donovan
Karanbir Singh  wrote:

 The 4.7 release is syncing out to external mirrors right
 now, we should 
 have enough done for release by Monday night ( for
 i386/x86_64 )
 

Any update?

Thanks,
Josh




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[CentOS] CentOS 5 on an MSI Wind U100 Netbook RTL8187 wireless card configuration

2008-09-12 Thread Niki Kovacs

Hi,

I recently purchased an MSI Wind Netbook, just slightly bigger than an 
EeePC, and IMHO just one step above the mere toy category. It's got a 
10 monitor, 80 GB SATA HD, and the keyboard is just big enough so I can 
type with ten fingers (with a little exercise). The thing came 
preinstalled with Windows XP, and I've spent the last two days figuring 
out how I could possibly install my favourite OS on it. Among the many 
hairy details: 1) there's no CDROM nor floppy, only USB, and 2) the NIC 
is an RTL8101, not handled by the install kernel (nor the normal CentOS 
kernel). There were several Catch22's, but here's how I went about it. I 
published my detailed install notes (in French, but the Linux bits are 
universal :oD), since it seems to be a quite popular bit of hardware:


http://www.microlinux.fr/article.php3?id_article=47

There's one exception though: the wireless card is a Realtek RTL8187 
(which lspci lists as RTL8199 Unknown device). I must have tried about 
ten different drivers out there, none of them worked (MSI only published 
precompiled kernel modules for SuSE Linux Enterprise 10, go figure). The 
ndiswrapper solution didn't work either: the Windows driver loaded OK, 
but no signal. I tried the dkms-rtl818x driver from RPMForge, but to no 
avail. Any suggestions on this piece of hardware?


Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] DNS Logging with Selinux enabled

2008-09-12 Thread Josh Donovan
--- On Thu, 11/9/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] DNS Logging with Selinux enabled
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Date: Thursday, 11 September, 2008, 5:48 PM
 
 That doesn't matter. For the normal targeted policy
 only the last part of 
 the policy listing is important (named_log_t in this case).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ralph
 
 PS: Please trim your mails

That did it. Its a wonder how upstream never fix these issues, 
considering the average admin would like to log dns queries
in a chroot. As for trimming the mail its a while since I was
on the mailing list, but I remembered not to top post. :-)

Thanks,
Josh




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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Josh Donovan wrote:
 Karanbir Singh  wrote:
 
  The 4.7 release is syncing out to external mirrors right
  now, we should 
  have enough done for release by Monday night ( for
  i386/x86_64 )
 
 Any update?

4.7 is still syncing to the mirrors (dvds are missing), but we are
pushing towards a release *really* soon now.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] A very interesting cinfiguration page for centos

2008-09-12 Thread Jim Wildman

Bob Hoffman wrote:



http://www.openeyet.nl/scc/examples/scc.centos50.html




Really cool.

Relly intense view of the whole server.




Looks like the output of sosreport.

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Re: [CentOS] A very interesting cinfiguration page for centos

2008-09-12 Thread Jim Wildman

Bob Hoffman wrote:

Thought I would share this..not sure exactly what it is...but I wish I could
pull out my configurations with a program like this...



http://www.openeyet.nl/scc/examples/scc.centos50.html




Really cool.

Relly intense view of the whole server.




More likely SCC..  http://www.openeyet.nl/scc/index.html

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[CentOS] Illegal opp code

2008-09-12 Thread Dermot
Hi,


HP DL 385 G2.
CentOS 5.1
Kernel 2.6.18-92.1.10.el5

I have a newly installed server that was running x. It told me there
were updates to install. I accepted that all, except sysreport as I
always seem to have problems installing. I rebooted, having set the
default run level to 3. I then got a red screen with an illegal
OpCode error message.

I have used my CD to boot into rescue more. My old system is mounted under /mnt.

I would also like to get my system back up and running. I have put a
fair bit of time into loading libraries and software.

I have tried editing the grub.conf and commenting out the
2.6.18-92.1.10.el5 kernel so it used a previous kernel but I can not
get past this error. There is no message from grub. The system comes
straight from the BIOS messages into this red screen.

Is there any other ways to determine what the problem is? The error
messages says nothing more that a few lines of hex which don't look
useful to me.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. TIA.
Dp.
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2008:0884

libxml2 security update for CentOS 3 i386:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0884.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

i386:
updates/i386/RPMS/libxml2-2.5.10-13.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/libxml2-devel-2.5.10-13.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/libxml2-python-2.5.10-13.i386.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/libxml2-2.5.10-13.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-3 i386 installations by running the command:

yum update libxml2

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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2008:0884

libxml2 security update for CentOS 3 x86_64:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0884.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

x86_64:
updates/x86_64/RPMS/libxml2-2.5.10-13.i386.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/libxml2-2.5.10-13.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/libxml2-devel-2.5.10-13.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/libxml2-python-2.5.10-13.x86_64.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/libxml2-2.5.10-13.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-3 x86_64 installations by running the command:

yum update libxml2

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The following errata for CentOS-2 have been built and uploaded to the
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RHSA-2008:0886-01 Important: libxml2 security update

Files available:
libxml2-2.4.19-11.ent.i386.rpm
libxml2-devel-2.4.19-11.ent.i386.rpm
libxml2-python-2.4.19-11.ent.i386.rpm

More details are available from the RedHat web site at
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh21as-errata.html

The easy way to make sure you are up to date with all the latest patches
is to run:
# yum update

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[CentOS] Re: DNS Logging with Selinux enabled

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Nichols

Josh Donovan wrote:

--- On Thu, 11/9/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [CentOS] DNS Logging with Selinux enabled
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Date: Thursday, 11 September, 2008, 5:48 PM

That doesn't matter. For the normal targeted policy
only the last part of 
the policy listing is important (named_log_t in this case).


Cheers,

Ralph

PS: Please trim your mails


That did it. Its a wonder how upstream never fix these issues, 
considering the average admin would like to log dns queries

in a chroot. As for trimming the mail its a while since I was
on the mailing list, but I remembered not to top post. :-)


When I asked about a similar problem a while back, the SELinux folks
told me that bind-chroot was not supported under SELinux because
SELinux already provides better protection.

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[CentOS] yum erase fails

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I am trying to erase an rpm with yum erase.  It fails:

service hipfw does not support chkconfig

Removed: hipl-firewall.i386 0:1.0.4.1
Complete!

And it is not removed

If I try with rpm -e, I get the same error message.


So how do I remove this rpm?


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Re: [CentOS] yum erase fails

2008-09-12 Thread Pintér Tibor

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I am trying to erase an rpm with yum erase.  It fails:

service hipfw does not support chkconfig

Removed: hipl-firewall.i386 0:1.0.4.1
Complete!

And it is not removed

If I try with rpm -e, I get the same error message.


So how do I remove this rpm?


--noscripts ?

t
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Re: [CentOS] yum erase fails

2008-09-12 Thread John R Pierce

Pintér Tibor wrote:

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I am trying to erase an rpm with yum erase.  It fails:

service hipfw does not support chkconfig

Removed: hipl-firewall.i386 0:1.0.4.1
Complete!

And it is not removed

If I try with rpm -e, I get the same error message.


So how do I remove this rpm?


--noscripts ?



and, since it apparently doesn't' support chkconfig, you likely will 
need to manually clean out /etc/rc.d/rc?.d/???hipfw


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Re: [CentOS] yum erase fails

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Pintér Tibor wrote:

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I am trying to erase an rpm with yum erase. It fails:

service hipfw does not support chkconfig

Removed: hipl-firewall.i386 0:1.0.4.1
Complete!

And it is not removed

If I try with rpm -e, I get the same error message.


So how do I remove this rpm?


--noscripts ? 


tried 'yum --noscripts erase hipl-firewall' and got the error:

command line error: no such option: --noscirpts

Seems like what I would want, but a man yum did not show any such option


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Re: [CentOS] yum erase fails

2008-09-12 Thread Mikael Fridh
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:30:38AM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 tried 'yum --noscripts erase hipl-firewall' and got the error:

 command line error: no such option: --noscirpts

You didn't spell it correctly.
It's an option for rpm, not yum.

You can however add tsflags=noscripts to yum.conf but that's probably a
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Re: [CentOS] Re: DNS Logging with Selinux enabled

2008-09-12 Thread Josh Donovan
Robert Nichols wrote:
 When I asked about a similar problem a while back, the
 SELinux folks
 told me that bind-chroot was not supported under SELinux
 because
 SELinux already provides better protection.
 

That is wrong. Every release of Fedora comes out and people ask how to 
configure bind to work in a chroot with selinux enabled. As Fedora is a
testbed for upstream, we should have these things ironed out. Possibly having a 
separate SELinux/Docs mailing list means they may not be aware of what is going 
on in the mainstream. 

Some of the old Fedora Docs are informative. Even a work in progress like
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/AdministrationGuide/Servers/DNSBIND/BINDChroot

shows bind-chroot can work with SELinux





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Re: [CentOS] yum erase fails

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Mikael Fridh wrote:

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:30:38AM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  

tried 'yum --noscripts erase hipl-firewall' and got the error:

command line error: no such option: --noscirpts



You didn't spell it correctly.
It's an option for rpm, not yum.
  


Well, this is on another system, so I am looking at one screen and 
typing on another. For us dyslexic people, typos are normal


'rpm --noscripts -e' worked.

the rpm is gone. So too is the /etc/rc.d/init.hipfw

thanks!


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Re: [CentOS] gv

2008-09-12 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Terry Polzin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where can I find gv for centos 5.x

EPEL ?
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Re: [CentOS] Webalizer cron syntax

2008-09-12 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 01:38, Bob Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if [ -s /var/log/httpd/mysite1_access_log ]; then exec /usr/bin/webalizer
 -Qc /etc/webalizer/mysite1.conf;
 fi
 if [ -s /var/log/httpd/mysite2_access_log ]; then exec /usr/bin/webalizer
 -Qc /etc/webalizer/mysite2.conf;
 Fi

You have to remove the exec from the command lines. exec means the
program that will run will replace the script, so no command after
that one will execute on the script.

 If I do not add the fi after each, the file gets an error when I run
 /etc/cron.daily/00webalizer

Yes, you must keep the fis, and I believe they should be lowercase.

HTH,
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[CentOS] gv

2008-09-12 Thread Terry Polzin
Where can I find gv for centos 5.x


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[CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread Scott Silva

on 9-12-2008 2:54 AM Josh Donovan spake the following:

Karanbir Singh  wrote:


The 4.7 release is syncing out to external mirrors right
now, we should 
have enough done for release by Monday night ( for

i386/x86_64 )



Any update?


Starting to sound like when my children were younger and we went on a trip.

Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
:-D



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[CentOS] Standby Issue

2008-09-12 Thread Test
Hi List,

I'm running Centos 5.2 on an Pentium III-1000

The box has been running for almost a year without any (hardware) issues.

SInce a few weeks the box goes into standby (power led flashes) without
any obvious reason (ie. i cannot find anything). This happens randomly 
(box runs for 1 day and does this, next time it runs for 5 days and it
happens).
Normally when a box goes into standby, you should be able to start it
again pressing the power button, but this does not work. I have to
completely unplug it and then it boots up again (after plugging it in
again ;-))

I thought it was due to a kernel upgrade from 2.6.18-92.1.6 to 2.6.18-92.1.10,
but after a downgrade the same issue occurred

I have checked about all settings (loaded modules, logfiles, bios etc.)
I have stopped the acpid, still no go...
cpuspeed is not running...
Bios has got all powermanagement stuff disable..

So basically i am looking for some hints on solving this...

Anyone...?

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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread Jeff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9-12-2008 2:54 AM Josh Donovan spake the following:

 Karanbir Singh  wrote:

 The 4.7 release is syncing out to external mirrors right
 now, we should have enough done for release by Monday night ( for
 i386/x86_64 )


 Any update?

 Starting to sound like when my children were younger and we went on a trip.

 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 :-D


They should have stuck with the when it's ready response instead of
telling us the 5th or 6th, then Monday night. They created greater
anticipation by suggesting an actual time line. And greater
frustration by missing it. When it's ready always worked for me in
the past, but since they gave a date this time, I've been obsessively
checking the mirrors looking for the release. It's human nature.

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Re: [CentOS] Standby Issue

2008-09-12 Thread nate
Test wrote:

 So basically i am looking for some hints on solving this...

Sounds like the box is crashing. Configure a serial console
on it and hook the console up to another system to see if
anything comes across on the console prior to the standby/crash
behavior occurring.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread William Warren

Scott Silva wrote:

on 9-12-2008 2:54 AM Josh Donovan spake the following:

Karanbir Singh  wrote:


The 4.7 release is syncing out to external mirrors right
now, we should have enough done for release by Monday night ( for
i386/x86_64 )



Any update?

Starting to sound like when my children were younger and we went on a 
trip.


Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
Are we there yet?

NO
:-D





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[CentOS] Re: DNS Logging with Selinux enabled

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Nichols

Josh Donovan wrote:

Robert Nichols wrote:

When I asked about a similar problem a while back, the
SELinux folks
told me that bind-chroot was not supported under SELinux
because
SELinux already provides better protection.



That is wrong. Every release of Fedora comes out and people ask how to 
configure bind to work in a chroot with selinux enabled. As Fedora is a
testbed for upstream, we should have these things ironed out. Possibly having a separate SELinux/Docs mailing list means they may not be aware of what is going on in the mainstream. 


Some of the old Fedora Docs are informative. Even a work in progress like
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/AdministrationGuide/Servers/DNSBIND/BINDChroot

shows bind-chroot can work with SELinux


Can work, yes.  Does upstream care that it doesn't install and work
cleanly, no.  That's the word I got from upstream (fedora-selinux-list).

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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread MHR
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Starting to sound like when my children were younger and we went on a trip.

 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 Are we there yet?

 NO
 :-D


You haven't tried the Shrek trick?  After the first ten of Are we
there yet? NO, do this:

Are we there yet?
Yes.
REALLY?
NO!!!

;^)

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Re: [CentOS] Standby Issue

2008-09-12 Thread MHR
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So basically i am looking for some hints on solving this...


I would get a power supply tester and check the power supply to make
sure it isn't dying (and be prepared for that anyway).

You said you have to unplug the power supply?  Does it not have a
switch on the back?  Just something else to check that might make your
resolution simpler (but won't solve the problem), and an indicator of
how old the p/s is.

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[CentOS] shutdown and boot on Xen

2008-09-12 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi,

I am using xen-3.0.3-41.el5 on Centos 5 with 2.6.18-53.1.21.el5xen
kernel. I'd like to:

1) When Dom0 shutdown, DomU's do the same.
2) When Dom0 boots. DomU's do the same.

Is that possible?

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Re: [CentOS] shutdown and boot on Xen

2008-09-12 Thread Brett Serkez
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Sergio Belkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I am using xen-3.0.3-41.el5 on Centos 5 with 2.6.18-53.1.21.el5xen
 kernel. I'd like to:

 1) When Dom0 shutdown, DomU's do the same.

This is a given.

 2) When Dom0 boots. DomU's do the same.

Create a soft-link in /etc/xen/auto to each DomU in /etc/xen that you
want to auto-start at system boot.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread Josh Donovan
Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They should have stuck with the when it's ready response instead of
 telling us the 5th or 6th, then Monday night. They created greater
 anticipation by suggesting an actual time line. And greater
 frustration by missing it. When it's ready always worked for me in
 the past, but since they gave a date this time, I've been obsessively
 checking the mirrors looking for the release. It's human nature.

Agreed! If people on the mailing list are frigid, then we would have
a big problem. If one or two are waiting for the updates then the list
is live. :-)

Thanks,
Josh






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Re: [CentOS] Standby Issue

2008-09-12 Thread Nifty Cluster Mitch
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 06:58:46PM +0200, Test wrote:
 
 I'm running Centos 5.2 on an Pentium III-1000
 
 The box has been running for almost a year without any (hardware) issues.
 
 SInce a few weeks the box goes into standby (power led flashes) without
 any obvious reason (ie. i cannot find anything).
.

Check for dust and gunk in the air flow.
CPU cooler,
Power supply,
Airinlets to the box.
Fans not spinning.

Other posters had good input as well.



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Re: [CentOS] Standby Issue

2008-09-12 Thread Test
Duh, Thats a good one, didnt think of that 

 i will give it  a go...


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[CentOS] Centos Website

2008-09-12 Thread Dan Carl
I can't connect, appears to be down.
Thought I'd post in case whoevers in charge is listening here.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos Website

2008-09-12 Thread Jim Perrin
Thanks. We're aware and are working on it. Others might post more information.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Dan Carl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't connect, appears to be down.
 Thought I'd post in case whoevers in charge is listening here.

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[CentOS] (no subject)

2008-09-12 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
Hi all..

I have centos 5.2

There is a cron file that is commented out to auto update the rules of
spamassassin
Location: /etc/cron.d/sa-update

This file is chmod 600, should it not be 755? All the other crons are 755

This line is commented.
#10 4 * * * root /usr/share/spamassassin/sa-update.cron 21 | tee -a
/var/log/sa-update.log


Questions

1- should I re chmod it to 600 or leave it at 755?

Is anyone else using this? The cron file says to read a certain wiki page
and do this cron at your own peril. Yet I find no warnings on that wiki page
that would make me think this was bad.


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[CentOS] Custom build kernel patch fails big time.

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am trying to build a custom kernel for the HIPL code 
(infrahip.hip.fi), using the patch for the Linux 2.6.18 kernel.  I 
followed all the instructions for getting the kernel source and making a 
custom kernel provided on the wiki.  The rpmbuild fails with the 
following messages:


Get an error on this step (figured out my other problem):

Patch #4 
(centos-5.2-hipmod-sleep-beet-and-interfamily-all-in-one.patch):
1 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file 
net/ipv4/xfrm4_output.c.rej

2 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file net/ipv4/esp4.c.rej
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file net/ipv6/udp.c.rej
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file net/ipv6/tcp_ipv6.c.rej
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file net/ipv6/esp6.c.rej
2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file net/ipv6/icmp.c.rej
2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file net/xfrm/xfrm_state.c.rej
1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file include/net/xfrm.h.rej
Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n]
Apply anyway? [n]
1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file include/linux/net.h.rej


I've asked for help on the hipl list, but there is no real experience 
there with Centos (FC8 and 9), and they are trying to help, put perhaps 
someone here might know what I am doing wrong?


Oh, one question was asked about how the ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-2.16.18 
directory looks like.  I think the linux-2.6.18.i386 (or i686) is not 
what the patch is expecting?


Here is the patch file 
(centos-5.2-hipmod-sleep-beet-and-interfamily-all-in-one.patch):


diff -urN  a/net/ipv4/xfrm4_input.c b/net/ipv4/xfrm4_input.c
--- a/net/ipv4/xfrm4_input.c 2007-05-25 12:21:11.0 +0300
+++ b/net/ipv4/xfrm4_input.c 2007-05-25 12:21:11.0 +0300
@@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
#include linux/string.h
#include linux/netfilter.h
#include linux/netfilter_ipv4.h
+#include net/inet_ecn.h
#include net/ip.h
#include net/xfrm.h

@@ -23,6 +24,15 @@

EXPORT_SYMBOL(xfrm4_rcv);

+static inline void ipip_ecn_decapsulate(struct sk_buff *skb)
+{
+struct iphdr *outer_iph = skb-nh.iph;
+struct iphdr *inner_iph = skb-h.ipiph;
+
+if (INET_ECN_is_ce(outer_iph-tos))
+IP_ECN_set_ce(inner_iph);
+}
+
static int xfrm4_parse_spi(struct sk_buff *skb, u8 nexthdr, u32 *spi, 
u32 *seq)

{
switch (nexthdr) {
@@ -103,11 +113,11 @@

xfrm_vec[xfrm_nr++] = x;

-if (x-mode-input(x, skb))
+if (x-mode-input(x, skb))
goto drop;
-
+   
if (x-props.mode) {

-decaps = 1;
+decaps = 1;
break;
}

diff -urN  a/net/ipv4/xfrm4_output.c b/net/ipv4/xfrm4_output.c
--- a/net/ipv4/xfrm4_output.c 2007-05-25 12:21:11.0 +0300
+++ b/net/ipv4/xfrm4_output.c 2007-05-25 12:21:11.0 +0300
@@ -14,10 +14,12 @@
#include linux/skbuff.h
#include linux/spinlock.h
#include linux/netfilter_ipv4.h
+#include net/inet_ecn.h
#include net/ip.h
#include net/xfrm.h
#include net/icmp.h

+
static int xfrm4_tunnel_check_size(struct sk_buff *skb)
{
int mtu, ret = 0;
@@ -54,7 +56,7 @@
goto error_nolock;
}

-if (x-props.mode) {
+if (x-props.mode == XFRM_MODE_TUNNEL) {
err = xfrm4_tunnel_check_size(skb);
if (err)
goto error_nolock;
@@ -66,7 +68,7 @@
if (err)
goto error;

-err = x-mode-output(skb);
+err = x-mode-output(skb);
if (err)
goto error;

@@ -85,6 +87,7 @@
}
dst = skb-dst;
x = dst-xfrm;
+
} while (x  !x-props.mode);

IPCB(skb)-flags |= IPSKB_XFRM_TRANSFORMED;
diff -urN  a/net/ipv4/xfrm4_tunnel.c b/net/ipv4/xfrm4_tunnel.c
--- a/net/ipv4/xfrm4_tunnel.c 2007-05-25 12:21:11.0 +0300
+++ b/net/ipv4/xfrm4_tunnel.c 2007-05-25 12:21:11.0 +0300
@@ -28,13 +28,20 @@

static int ipip_init_state(struct xfrm_state *x)
{
-if (!x-props.mode)
-return -EINVAL;
-
if (x-encap)
return -EINVAL;

-x-props.header_len = sizeof(struct iphdr);
+switch (x-props.mode) {
+case XFRM_MODE_TRANSPORT:
+return -EINVAL;
+default:
+case XFRM_MODE_TUNNEL:
+x-props.header_len = sizeof(struct iphdr);
+break;
+case XFRM_MODE_BEET:
+x-props.header_len += IPV4_BEET_PHMAXLEN;
+break;
+}

return 0;
}
diff -urN  a/net/ipv4/route.c b/net/ipv4/route.c
--- a/net/ipv4/route.c 2007-05-25 12:21:11.0 +0300
+++ b/net/ipv4/route.c 2007-05-25 12:21:11.0 +0300
@@ -108,6 +108,7 @@
#ifdef CONFIG_SYSCTL
#include linux/sysctl.h
#endif
+#include linux/xfrm.h

#define RT_FL_TOS(oldflp) \
((u32)(oldflp-fl4_tos  (IPTOS_RT_MASK | RTO_ONLINK)))
@@ -2631,7 +2632,7 @@

int ip_route_output_key(struct rtable **rp, struct flowi *flp)
{
-return ip_route_output_flow(rp, flp, NULL, 0);
+return ip_route_output_flow(rp, flp, NULL, XFRM_LOOKUP_SLEEP);
}

static int rt_fill_info(struct sk_buff *skb, u32 pid, 

Re: [CentOS] A glimpse into the future for RHEL 6 and CentOS 6

2008-09-12 Thread Josh Donovan
Scott Silva wrote:

 http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1328938,00.html

I'm still comfortably on CentOS 4X. I might nuke an Ubuntu Desktop
I have on VMWare and put CentOS 5X but I don't want to get my fingers
burnt using Fedora 10 to see how CentOS 6 might look like.

My brief foray into Ubuntu was not good at all, I just wanted to 
see what the hype was all about. 10,000 noobs on their forum and 
a gazillion questions are unanswered. To think people on the Debian
list get told to install Ubuntu if they can't handle tha real thang!

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Re: [CentOS] Custom build kernel patch fails big time.

2008-09-12 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:46, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh, one question was asked about how the ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-2.16.18
 directory looks like.  I think the linux-2.6.18.i386 (or i686) is not what
 the patch is expecting?

As some of the patches fail only 1/2 or 2/3 or 1/4, that means that
there is a part of it that succeeded, so it's probably not a matter of
directory layout.

It seems that what you are trying to do is take a patch created on the
latest kernel from kernel.org, and applying it verbatim to the latest
CentOS kernel, which is far far far away from the latest kernel.org.
The problem is that the kernel from kernel.org was probably changed a
lot between the version used on CentOS and the latest version, in some
areas the code may have changed so much that it's highly improbable
that any non-trivial patch will succeed there. That's why this is
called back-porting, because there is actually quite a lot of effort
into it.

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Re: [CentOS] Custom build kernel patch fails big time.

2008-09-12 Thread nate
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 I am trying to build a custom kernel for the HIPL code
 (infrahip.hip.fi), using the patch for the Linux 2.6.18 kernel.  I

Your problem is likely because Red hat already applies
10 bazillion patches to the kernel for their packages, so
there's little chance that the patch from that site will
apply cleanly.

So you, or someone will have to fix the patch, or go download
the raw kernel sources that the patch is for and use that
kernel instead knowing that you'll likely have other problems
that Red Hat's patches were designed to prevent.

Welcome to the development world of linux 2.6. I miss the older
model they used on 2.4 and earlier. Now distributions are expected
to maintain the stable kernels, which is fine until you need/want
to do something like your trying to do. In the past this
was much easier.

Fortunately I haven't had to patch the kernel for years.

nate

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[CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-12 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
Finsihing my server set up..
Yum-updatesd

This is on, via the chkconfig and seems to run a lot.

TO DO: auto update YUM for the computer once a day.
Files: /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
Extra: send a mail or add to log file

This is the centos original file and my suggested changes.
If anyone uses this, do you have something similar?

[main]
# how often to check for new updates (in seconds)
run_interval = 3600 (gonna change to 86400 for 24 hours)

# how often to allow checking on request (in seconds)
updaterefresh = 600 (leave as is)

# how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog)
emit_via = dbus (change to email, defaults to root I believe)

# should we listen via dbus to give out update information/check for
# new updates 
dbus_listener = yes (assume no?)

# automatically install updates
do_update = no (change to yes)

# automatically download updates
do_download = no (change to yes)

# automatically download deps of updates
do_download_deps = no (change to yes)


I am not sure about the dbus listener. The documentation, yum wiki, or the
man pages were not telling me anything.

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Re: [CentOS] Custom build kernel patch fails big time.

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Filipe Brandenburger wrote:

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 16:46, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Oh, one question was asked about how the ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-2.16.18
directory looks like.  I think the linux-2.6.18.i386 (or i686) is not what
the patch is expecting?



As some of the patches fail only 1/2 or 2/3 or 1/4, that means that
there is a part of it that succeeded, so it's probably not a matter of
directory layout.

It seems that what you are trying to do is take a patch created on the
latest kernel from kernel.org, and applying it verbatim to the latest
CentOS kernel,


Quite wrong there.

The hipl main code comes with separate patches for each kernel. I AM 
using the one in the 2.6.18.0 directory.



 which is far far far away from the latest kernel.org.
The problem is that the kernel from kernel.org was probably changed a
lot between the version used on CentOS and the latest version, in some
areas the code may have changed so much that it's highly improbable
that any non-trivial patch will succeed there. That's why this is
called back-porting, because there is actually quite a lot of effort
into it.

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Re: [CentOS] Custom build kernel patch fails big time.

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz

nate wrote:

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  

I am trying to build a custom kernel for the HIPL code
(infrahip.hip.fi), using the patch for the Linux 2.6.18 kernel.  I



Your problem is likely because Red hat already applies
10 bazillion patches to the kernel for their packages, so
there's little chance that the patch from that site will
apply cleanly.
  


Well the patch maintainer told me to use the 2.6.18.0 patch, but...

So you, or someone will have to fix the patch, 


Well I hope for them to get the patch right soon...


or go download
the raw kernel sources that the patch is for and use that
kernel instead knowing that you'll likely have other problems
that Red Hat's patches were designed to prevent.
  


I am kind of thinking this patch is for FC6's 2.6.18.0 kernel, which as 
you hint is different from RHEL/Centos' 2.6.18.0 kernel.


Oh, I WAS told NOT to use the patch for 2.6.18.1


Welcome to the development world of linux 2.6. I miss the older
model they used on 2.4 and earlier. Now distributions are expected
to maintain the stable kernels, which is fine until you need/want
to do something like your trying to do. In the past this
was much easier.

Fortunately I haven't had to patch the kernel for years.

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Re: [CentOS] A glimpse into the future for RHEL 6 and CentOS 6

2008-09-12 Thread Ivan Levchenko
well, as a plain deskop install, i haven't had any problems with ubuntu. at all.
i've had problems with fedora, that thing is really a pain to use.

i mainly use centos on servers, but for the desktop, i'm pretty happy
with ubuntu at the moment. probably the main thing that i like is that
its deb, not rpm. rpms based systems can become a hassle with several
repositories.. and upgrading between versions - i'm not going to even
go into that.

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On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Josh Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott Silva wrote:

 http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1328938,00.html

 I'm still comfortably on CentOS 4X. I might nuke an Ubuntu Desktop
 I have on VMWare and put CentOS 5X but I don't want to get my fingers
 burnt using Fedora 10 to see how CentOS 6 might look like.

 My brief foray into Ubuntu was not good at all, I just wanted to
 see what the hype was all about. 10,000 noobs on their forum and
 a gazillion questions are unanswered. To think people on the Debian
 list get told to install Ubuntu if they can't handle tha real thang!

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[CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread Scott Silva




They should have stuck with the when it's ready response instead of
telling us the 5th or 6th, then Monday night. They created greater
anticipation by suggesting an actual time line. And greater
frustration by missing it. When it's ready always worked for me in
the past, but since they gave a date this time, I've been obsessively
checking the mirrors looking for the release. It's human nature.


And when they said When it's ready others complained.

I'm sure they anticipated releasing on those dates, and only gave them out to 
appease the others that asked. I think the CentOS admins do very well for an 
all volunteer army! It has to be hard to run an international organization 
on donations and free time.





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[CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-12 Thread Scott Silva

on 9-12-2008 12:13 PM MHR spake the following:

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Scott Silva ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/[EMAIL 
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Starting to sound like when my children were younger and we went on a trip.



You haven't tried the Shrek trick?  After the first ten of Are we
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Are we there yet?
Yes.
REALLY?
NO!!!
My youngest is now 18, so I will have to remember that one for the grandkids 
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[CentOS] Re: Yum-updatesd

2008-09-12 Thread Scott Silva

on 9-12-2008 2:15 PM Bob Hoffman spake the following:
 
Finsihing my server set up..

Yum-updatesd

This is on, via the chkconfig and seems to run a lot.

TO DO: auto update YUM for the computer once a day.
Files: /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
Extra: send a mail or add to log file

This is the centos original file and my suggested changes.
If anyone uses this, do you have something similar?

I don't run it on critical servers. I have had too many updates that needed to 
have manual intervention to get the server running again. Most were trivial to 
fix, but it still took someone being there to fix it.


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[CentOS] Re: Standby Issue

2008-09-12 Thread Scott Silva

on 9-12-2008 9:58 AM Test spake the following:

Hi List,

I'm running Centos 5.2 on an Pentium III-1000

The box has been running for almost a year without any (hardware) issues.

SInce a few weeks the box goes into standby (power led flashes) without
any obvious reason (ie. i cannot find anything). This happens randomly 
(box runs for 1 day and does this, next time it runs for 5 days and it

happens).
Normally when a box goes into standby, you should be able to start it
again pressing the power button, but this does not work. I have to
completely unplug it and then it boots up again (after plugging it in
again ;-))

I thought it was due to a kernel upgrade from 2.6.18-92.1.6 to 2.6.18-92.1.10,
but after a downgrade the same issue occurred

I have checked about all settings (loaded modules, logfiles, bios etc.)
I have stopped the acpid, still no go...
cpuspeed is not running...
Bios has got all powermanagement stuff disable..

So basically i am looking for some hints on solving this...

Anyone...?


CPU fans starting to die. Overheating. Old age. Electrical problems.
I had an old server that actually had a mouse crawl into it and die. Couldn't 
find an opening I thought it could get into, and even suspected foul play. 
(not on the mouses death, but on its placement in the case)




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Re: [CentOS] Re: DNS Logging with Selinux enabled

2008-09-12 Thread Robert Spangler
On Friday 12 September 2008 14:56, Robert Nichols wrote:

  Josh Donovan wrote:
   Robert Nichols wrote:
   When I asked about a similar problem a while back, the
   SELinux folks
   told me that bind-chroot was not supported under SELinux
   because
   SELinux already provides better protection.
  
   That is wrong. Every release of Fedora comes out and people ask how to
   configure bind to work in a chroot with selinux enabled. As Fedora is a
   testbed for upstream, we should have these things ironed out. Possibly
   having a separate SELinux/Docs mailing list means they may not be aware
   of what is going on in the mainstream.
  
   Some of the old Fedora Docs are informative. Even a work in progress
   like
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/AdministrationGuide/Servers/DN
  SBIND/BINDChroot
  
   shows bind-chroot can work with SELinux

  Can work, yes.  Does upstream care that it doesn't install and work
  cleanly, no.  That's the word I got from upstream
 (fedora-selinux-list).

bind-chroot works fine.  The question is not if it work but if you are 
configuring it to work in that environment.  With SELinux running and bind in 
a chroot environment it is allowed to write to slave/ and data/ (this is 
going from memory haven't had to setup bind-chroot in some time)  As long as 
you setup your logging to data/ it will log everything and not complain.  
Only when you setup a custom server do you have issues.


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Re: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-12 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:15 -0400, Bob Hoffman wrote:
 Finsihing my server set up..
 Yum-updatesd
 
 This is on, via the chkconfig and seems to run a lot.
 
 TO DO: auto update YUM for the computer once a day.
 Files: /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
 Extra: send a mail or add to log file
 
 This is the centos original file and my suggested changes.
 If anyone uses this, do you have something similar?
 
 [main]
 # how often to check for new updates (in seconds)
 run_interval = 3600 (gonna change to 86400 for 24 hours)
 
 # how often to allow checking on request (in seconds)
 updaterefresh = 600 (leave as is)
 
 # how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog)
 emit_via = dbus (change to email, defaults to root I believe)
 
 # should we listen via dbus to give out update information/check for
 # new updates 
 dbus_listener = yes (assume no?)
 
 # automatically install updates
 do_update = no (change to yes)
 
 # automatically download updates
 do_download = no (change to yes)
 
 # automatically download deps of updates
 do_download_deps = no (change to yes)
 
 
 I am not sure about the dbus listener. The documentation, yum wiki, or the
 man pages were not telling me anything.

yum-updatesd...I never got it to work in Fedora 7 but it does work in
Fedora 8. I recall a discussion a few months ago that it didn't actually
work in CentOS-5 but perhaps the 5.2 update actually made it work...I
simply don't know.

below is my configuration of /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf that works on
Fedora 8

# cat /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
[main]
# how often to check for new updates (in seconds)
run_interval = 3600
# how often to allow checking on request (in seconds)
updaterefresh = 600

# how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog)
emit_via = syslog

# automatically install updates
do_update = yes
# automatically download updates
do_download = yes
# automatically download deps of updates
do_download_deps = yes

(I never tried e-mail notifications)

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RE: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd

2008-09-12 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
I read somewhere, that one of the issues was choking on sending emails..due
to sending to nobody account.
I guess I will have to wait and look for errors.
I do know that it was always on and had never told me there was an update
available when logging in as root.
 
 below is my configuration of /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf that 
 works on Fedora 8
 
 # cat /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf
 [main]
 # how often to check for new updates (in seconds) 
 run_interval = 3600 # how often to allow checking on request 
 (in seconds) updaterefresh = 600
 
 # how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog) 
 emit_via = syslog
 
 # automatically install updates
 do_update = yes
 # automatically download updates
 do_download = yes
 # automatically download deps of updates do_download_deps = yes
 
 (I never tried e-mail notifications)
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Yum-updatesd

2008-09-12 Thread Jeremiah Heller

On 12 Sep 2008, at 14:47, Scott Silva wrote:


If anyone uses this, do you have something similar?
I don't run it on critical servers. I have had too many updates that  
needed to have manual intervention to get the server running again.  
Most were trivial to fix, but it still took someone being there to  
fix it.



Here is how I have it configured for critical systems. Works great,  
Centos 5.2, x86. Email notices can get annoying if you're not around a  
terminal for several hours/days, as it continues to notify you each  
hour it checks and finds an update.


[main]
# how often to check for new updates (in seconds)
run_interval = 3600
# how often to allow checking on request (in seconds)
updaterefresh = 600

# how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog)
emit_via = email
# should we listen via dbus to give out update information/check for
# new updates
dbus_listener = yes

# automatically install updates
do_update = no
# automatically download updates
do_download = no
# automatically download deps of updates
do_download_deps = no

# who to notify
email_to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
email_from = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [CentOS] Centos Website

2008-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh

Dan Carl wrote:

I can't connect, appears to be down.
Thought I'd post in case whoevers in charge is listening here.



should be all back to normal by now, if you still see issues. please let us 
know. irc://#centos-devel on irc.freenode.net is a good place to get interactive 
contact with centos infrastructure people!


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[CentOS] Screen capture during install

2008-09-12 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
Good evening.

I see all these neat how-tos online with nice pictures of the install and
all.
I am new to using linux on a computer I own.

I want to document the next server I build, each step. 

How do you do a screen capture on a system you are doing a fresh install on?
KVM connected to the unit?

Any help appreciated.

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Re: [CentOS] Screen capture during install

2008-09-12 Thread MHR
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Bob Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good evening.

 I see all these neat how-tos online with nice pictures of the install and
 all.
 I am new to using linux on a computer I own.

 I want to document the next server I build, each step.

 How do you do a screen capture on a system you are doing a fresh install on?
 KVM connected to the unit?

 Any help appreciated.


Run it in a virtual machine and take snapshots every so often.  It's a
pain, but it works.  I use VMWare

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Re: [CentOS] Screen capture during install

2008-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008, Bob Hoffman wrote:
 
Good evening.

I see all these neat how-tos online with nice pictures of the install and
all.
I am new to using linux on a computer I own.

I want to document the next server I build, each step. 

How do you do a screen capture on a system you are doing a fresh install on?
KVM connected to the unit?

The first time I did this I had a camera on a tripod behind the screen with
a remote to the camera.  Shutter priority with about a 2 second exposure is
necessary to get complete screen captures.

I have done it more recently using vnc to handle the install on another
machine on the network, grabbing each screen using whatever that machine
has available.  I find vnc installs helpful in any case as it makes it easy
to monitor the installation without having to look at the hardware which
may be in another room.

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RE: [CentOS] Screen capture during install

2008-09-12 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
My main reason was to make a really good how to book on building the
webserver to help other newbies.

I guess I could install, learn VM, and then kinda 'fake install' the new
system and screen brab it.

Or maybe I could just use a cameralol

Maybe I could run the video though a filter and grab it with the vcr or a
diff computer and take the video and cut it up.

Nothing is ever easy dang it. Chicken egg things is a bummer.

 Run it in a virtual machine and take snapshots every so 
 often.  It's a pain, but it works.  I use VMWare
 
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RE: [CentOS] Screen capture during install

2008-09-12 Thread Bob Hoffman
 
I found this article..and does talk about the VM
http://portal.dfpug.de/dFPUG/Dokumente/Partner/Linuxtransfer/installation_vm
warescreenshots.pdf

It is called Using VMWare to Capture Linux Installation Screen Shots...lol

Since I only want to go as far as the actual package selection, I may be
able to pull it off that way.
Just the thought of two installations and learning virtual machines...just
to take about 20 shots is a bit uch..ugh

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Re: [CentOS] Standby Issue

2008-09-12 Thread Ric Moore

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:28 -0700, Nifty Cluster Mitch wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 06:58:46PM +0200, Test wrote:
  
  I'm running Centos 5.2 on an Pentium III-1000
  
  The box has been running for almost a year without any (hardware) issues.
  
  SInce a few weeks the box goes into standby (power led flashes) without
  any obvious reason (ie. i cannot find anything).
 .
 
 Check for dust and gunk in the air flow.
 CPU cooler,
 Power supply,
 Airinlets to the box.
 Fans not spinning.
That fixed my server a week ago. I opened it up and was it ever cruddy
under the cpu fan! Yeow! I had to use a toothpick to really get the
fluff out with a vacuum cleaner nozzle to catch all the cruft. It's been
steady running ever since. Ric
 
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Re: [CentOS] A glimpse into the future for RHEL 6 and CentOS 6

2008-09-12 Thread Ric Moore

On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 20:50 +, Josh Donovan wrote:
 Scott Silva wrote:
 
  http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1328938,00.html
 
 I'm still comfortably on CentOS 4X. I might nuke an Ubuntu Desktop
 I have on VMWare and put CentOS 5X but I don't want to get my fingers
 burnt using Fedora 10 to see how CentOS 6 might look like.
 
 My brief foray into Ubuntu was not good at all, I just wanted to 
 see what the hype was all about. 10,000 noobs on their forum and 
 a gazillion questions are unanswered. To think people on the Debian
 list get told to install Ubuntu if they can't handle tha real thang!

I installed Kubuntu on another partition and their mail list is pretty
decent with some familiar faces from the Fedora list there. YMMV, Ric

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Re: [CentOS] Standby Issue

2008-09-12 Thread Dan Halbert


That fixed my server a week ago. I opened it up and was it ever cruddy
under the cpu fan! Yeow! I had to use a toothpick to really get the
fluff out with a vacuum cleaner nozzle to catch all the cruft. It's been
steady running ever since. Ric
  
Canned air is very good for cleaning up places like that, and just 
general dusting inside the machine.

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Re: [CentOS] Java install

2008-09-12 Thread Ric Moore

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 12:38 -0400, Steve Huff wrote:
 On Sep 11, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
 
  While using Fedora, I always used java straight from Sun. What is
  recommended for CentOS?? Getting jetty, java and other java apps  
  working
  correctly has been a real chore. If I used nothing but RPMs for  
  CEntOS,
  would I have a real working java install? I need some help on this one
  badly. Ric
 
 
 http://jpackage.org/ makes your life easier.

Having a heckuva time finding a usable mirror at that site via yum. I
finally just did it the old fashioned way and grabbed it off of Sun. Now
I get the Dancing Dan and everything is peachy. I'll be thankful and
make a wave offering of a nicely smoked beef brisket, since BBQ (not
quite a burnt offering, but close!) is pleasing to the nostrils of the
Lord. One does not live in Texas for any length of time without learning
how to properly smoke beef brisket until it's as tender as fillet.
grins Ric

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[CentOS] question on sending mail with 5.2

2008-09-12 Thread Jerry Geis

I made a little file with a From:, To: and body.
I execute the command cat file.txt | sendmail -t -O MinQueueAge=1m

thinking that the message would try every minute to send instead of the 
default 30m. (if the initial attempt failed of course).


This doesnt seem to have any effect?

In the event I have an important email and I want it try perhaps every 
minute (1minute)

to send the email how do I accomplish this from the sendmail command line?

Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] Screen capture during install

2008-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh

Hi Bob,

Bob Hoffman wrote:

My main reason was to make a really good how to book on building the
webserver to help other newbies.


That sounds like a really good thing to do. However, let me point out a 
couple of things that are important when it comes to the mailing list 
you are on here.


1) dont reply to someone else's email when its a NEW topic or thread you 
want to create. At the moment, since you replied to my email about the 
website rather than posting a new email, this entire conversation about 
how you would screenshot various things, is now under the thread titled 
'Centos Website'. dont believe me ? look here : 
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-September/thread.html


2) when you reply to someone on a thread, dont top post. Put your 
content below the portion you are replying to, and delete the rest ( eg. 
look at this email of mine. I've trimmed out the extra stuff and only 
left in enough to make sense of the thread ).


Do those two things, and you are sorted!

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Re: [CentOS] question on sending mail with 5.2

2008-09-12 Thread Luke S Crawford
Jerry Geis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 In the event I have an important email and I want it try perhaps every
 minute (1minute)
 to send the email how do I accomplish this from the sendmail command line?

considering just how many people use greylisting, this is likely a 
bad idea.Greylisting works by rejecting the first message from a new
server with a 4xx (temporary) error code.   If the server tries again
immediately or never tries again, it's probably a spammer.  If the server
waits a reasonable period of time (say, 30 minutes) and then re-sends the
mail,  it's probably legit, and the greylist program puts that server on the 
whitelist so mail from that server goes through right away next time.

Many people set things up such that if you try again immediately, you get
put on a blacklist, as you are probably a spammer.  

(that said, the answer to your question is what you did with -q1m   But
you probably don't want to do it.)
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[CentOS] Startup programs in specific workspaces

2008-09-12 Thread MHR
I have a specific method of using my five GNOME workspaces to perform
certain categories of tasks when I log in on a machine, so I just had
a thought.

Is there a way to specify, say from a login script, for an application
to start up in a particular workspace, preferably with a specific
screen location?

Or is this a gnome question?

Thanks.

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[CentOS] Re: question on sending mail with 5.2

2008-09-12 Thread Jerry Geis

Jerry Geis wrote:

I made a little file with a From:, To: and body.
I execute the command cat file.txt | sendmail -t -O MinQueueAge=1m

thinking that the message would try every minute to send instead of 
the default 30m. (if the initial attempt failed of course).


This doesnt seem to have any effect?

In the event I have an important email and I want it try perhaps every 
minute (1minute)
to send the email how do I accomplish this from the sendmail command 
line?


Thanks,

jerry


I had to change /etc/sysconfig/sendmail
QUEUE=1m
and restart sendmail

it did not seem to have effect on an individual message from the command 
above.


Thanks for the info about greylisting.

Jerry
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[CentOS] java yum problem

2008-09-12 Thread Ric Moore
Error: Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/rebuild-security-providers is needed
by package java-1.4.2-gcj-compat

I'm digging all over the place for this one. Has anyone a clue?? When I
use:
yum whatprovides /usr/bin/rebuild-security-providers it returns:
jpackage-utils.noarch : JPackage utilities
I've installed this from several sources. Nothing seems to provide the
rebuild thing. I've used mc to looking inside the rpms I've found and
none have it. So, I would guess something else does. Thanks, Ric

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