RE: [CentOS-es] sarg
Hola seria si mi ip del servidor es 192.168.1.1 y si en el httpd le puse que alias sea reporte entonces: http://192.168.1.1/reporte Saludos Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:39:29 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: centos-es@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-es] sarg olas disculpen acabo de poner el sarg en mi servidor y ahora desde otra maquina de donde las administro quiero ingresar pero no se cual es la url para entrar http://q mas? -- * * Saludos, *Wilder Deza* *GAMMA CARGO SAC*** */Área/**/ de /**/Sistemas/* Phone: + 51 (1) 222 4176 ext. /205* */ Fax : + 51 (1) 221 4955 Nextel: 51 (1) 403*8302 Visit us on: www.gammacargo.com http://www.gammacargo.com/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /“Su opinión es importante para nosotros, en/ / caso consultas / sugerencias / comentarios/ /favor escribir a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]”/ _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Selinux targeted source en Centos 5.2
On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 00:32 -0400, Hardy Beltran Monasterios wrote: El jue, 02-10-2008 a las 13:00 -0300, Martin Spinassi escribió: Muy buenas lista! Hace algunas semana comencé a utilizar CentOS para un servidor, y la verdad es que fué una gran decisión. Los contacto para ver si me pueden ayudar un poco con SELinux, ya que voy medio perdido y me encantaría implementarlo. Leyendo algunos manuales y sitios, veo que una forma práctica de verlo y modificarlo, es teniendo los sources de las políticas con el paquete selinux-policy-targeted-sources. mmm...Estoy seguro que el paquete se llama así para CentOS 4. Me parece que para RHEL 5, hicieron cambios al asunto de SELinux. Revisa las notas de lanzamiento (release notes) y el manual específico de SELinux para RHEL/CentOS 5 Saludos Lo raro es que tengo tanto un 5.2 de 32 bits como de 64, y en las dos máquinas no encuentro el paquete. Alguien usa 5.2 y lo tiene? Voy a ver si encuentro algo por el lado de RHEL. Gracias por la respuesta! Saludos Martín ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] sarg
Si bacan.. ya lo puse pero na sale como que si no encontrara. Lo primero que hice fue compilar el tar del sarr, seguido modifique el sarg.conf que por cierto encontre varios y en varios lugares pero ese alias que me dices no lo he visto??? * * Saludos, *Wilder Deza* *GAMMA CARGO SAC*** */Área/**/ de /**/Sistemas/* Phone: + 51 (1) 222 4176 ext. /205* */ Fax : + 51 (1) 221 4955 Nextel: 51 (1) 403*8302 Visit us on: www.gammacargo.com http://www.gammacargo.com/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /“Su opinión es importante para nosotros, en/ / caso consultas / sugerencias / comentarios/ /favor escribir a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]”/ Nino Bravo escribió: Hola seria si mi ip del servidor es 192.168.1.1 y si en el httpd le puse que alias sea reporte entonces: http://192.168.1.1/reporte Saludos Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:39:29 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: centos-es@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-es] sarg olas disculpen acabo de poner el sarg en mi servidor y ahora desde otra maquina de donde las administro quiero ingresar pero no se cual es la url para entrar http://q mas? -- * * Saludos, *Wilder Deza* *GAMMA CARGO SAC*** */Área/**/ de /**/Sistemas/* Phone: + 51 (1) 222 4176 ext. /205* */ Fax : + 51 (1) 221 4955 Nextel: 51 (1) 403*8302 Visit us on: www.gammacargo.com http://www.gammacargo.com/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /“Su opinión es importante para nosotros, en/ / caso consultas / sugerencias / comentarios/ /favor escribir a: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]”/ Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] RE: Resumen de CentOS-es, Vol 22 , Envío 19
Muchas gracias francisco por responder, el eclipse no lo baje todavía, pero el netbeans baje una versión, pero era para Windows, ahora que me decis que hay para Linux voy a buscar de nuevo. Un saludo Alejandro Garrido -Mensaje original- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:05:04 -0300 From: Francisco Collao Gárate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] java en linux To: centos-es@centos.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Alejandro Garrido wrote: Hola que tal, necesito para mi trabajo de fin de carrera hacer unas aplicaciones en java para manejar BD y correo; el tema que quiero hacerlo todo sobre Linux y les querÃa consultar que IDE para JAVA me recomiendan usar. Eclipse es el que uso normalmente para desarrollar app j2ee, es facil de usar y muy potente. Tambien esta netbeans siempre con lo ultimo de lo ultimo en tecnologias java que provienen directamente de la comunidad java de sun.La ventaja de netbeans que viene con glassfish un servidor de applicacion. salu2 -- Francisco José Collao Gárate LinuxUser #363300 http://pcollaog.firefox.cl Free, powerful, secure and easy to use. http://www.firefox.cl ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] Regd: SeLinux Configuration
Balaji wrote: * Can any one help me or guide me to 1. Enable the selinux setenforce 1 Use getenforce to determine the current status of selinux. Look in /etc/selinux/config for details of policy being used - e.g. targeted. 2. Selinux Customize my own policy man setsebool man getsebool These will help you modify options in the supplied policies. For example, use getsebool -a | grep http to list all selinux options and filter the list for those pertaining to http. You can of course create your own policy and local customisations based on audit logs etc, but I've not ventured down this path myself. Others on the list will be able to assist if you need to go that way. Hope that gets you started :) Cheers, Ian ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Regd: SeLinux Configuration
Dear All, I have executed the following command and i have changed the /etc/selinux/config file and reboot the PC also setenforce 1 i have getting the following message only setenforce: SELinux is disabled Regards -S.Balaji Ian Blackwell wrote: Balaji wrote: * Can any one help me or guide me to 1. Enable the selinux setenforce 1 Use getenforce to determine the current status of selinux. Look in /etc/selinux/config for details of policy being used - e.g. targeted. 2. Selinux Customize my own policy man setsebool man getsebool These will help you modify options in the supplied policies. For example, use getsebool -a | grep http to list all selinux options and filter the list for those pertaining to http. You can of course create your own policy and local customisations based on audit logs etc, but I've not ventured down this path myself. Others on the list will be able to assist if you need to go that way. Hope that gets you started :) Cheers, Ian ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Regd: SeLinux Configuration
Balaji wrote: Dear All, I have executed the following command and i have changed the /etc/selinux/config file and reboot the PC also setenforce 1 i have getting the following message only setenforce: SELinux is disabled Please post your /etc/selinux/config file. Thanks, Ian PS: Please bottom post and trim messages - these are the guidelines for this list. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Squid proxy High Availability
Hi all, I am running squid integrated with squidguard.dansguardian,clamav running on single standalone centos 5 server.Also running webmin for managing squid.This Squid is serving for 4000 clients. Since it is serving more users i don't want to take risk by running single server,if there is any single point of failure will cause all of my users to standstill. So i am planned to go for one more Centos5 server with cluster.Can any one suggest me how to design it either i have to go for common storage for storing all global files or i need to synchronize both the server periodically by running instance on local disk of both the servers. Below is the scenario currently running on the server squid is under /etc and squidguard database under /var/lib and dansguardian config file under /etc/dansguardian and webmin is under /usr/local Help me in designing the setup of high availability squid Regards, lingu ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Squid Number of hits
lingu wrote: Dear all, I am running squid on centos 5.Is there is any tool to calculate number of ip's hit the server for month wise. Even any command to find out the number of hits is also ok. When I ran a squid cache I used the scripts on: http://www.squid-cache.org/Scripts/NLANR/ to get statistics. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Sean Carolan wrote: We have an issue with some customers who refuse to accept ICMP traffic to their mail servers. It seems that they have put Mordac, preventer of information services in charge of their firewall policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Dilbert#Mordac). BUT ICMP IS BAD!¡ My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Oct 14 08:00:50 mailsrv sendmail[2024]: m9ED0Yf5002021: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:16, xdelay=00:00:16, mailer=esmtp, pri=42476, relay=mail.customer.org. [XX.XX.XX.XX], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection reset by mail.customer.org. I have disabled pmtu discovery on our routers as well as on all our outbound mail servers. Is there anything else I can do on our side to help the situation? So you basically broke your internet connection because of stupid customers? No, there isn't anything you can do on your side - especially if you don't know how large their MTU is set (which you cannot discover, as they forbid you to do so). So you can only hope that you get exactly the same MTU as they have (and that there is nothing inbetween which has a lower MTU). It is their problem. If they don't want to play by the rules, they should have to sit out the problems they themselves created. Ralph pgpSz7jRJdeuz.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Squid proxy High Availability
lingu wrote: Help me in designing the setup of high availability squid I think your better off using a load balancer instead of a cluster. For one, GFS requires shared storage(typically SAN), and two load balancing is much simpler than clustering. LVS is a free linux-based load balancer, so you'd have two LVS nodes and N+1 squid nodes. I prefer F5 BigIPs as they are more flexible/much easier to manage though they aren't that cheap, though if you have 4000 clients it shouldn't be hard to justify it. Run round-robin load balancing, and if your load balancer supports it consider enabling some sort of persistence such as source IP persistence so that the client IPs get pinned to the same proxy server(so the cache is consistent) throughout their session, if that proxy server fails then the load balancer will fail them over to the other server seamlessly. Don't worry about keeping the caches in sync. With BigIP you can configure this in about 30 seconds, with LVS I'm not sure if it's even possible. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Squid Number of hits
Dear all, I am running squid on centos 5.Is there is any tool to calculate number of ip's hit the server for month wise. Even any command to find out the number of hits is also ok. Regards, Lingu ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Sorin Srbu wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:24:59 +0200: Any particular reason why not, if I may ask? Because other distributions have better support for brand-new consumer hardware. Especially, if you consider the lifetime cycle of CentOS which spans to 2014. Look at this not from the viewpoint of your mom, but from the computershop that wants to sell lots of PCs to very different people (which will expect to see *recent* software) and with (over the years) quite differing hardware. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Any particular reason why not, if I may ask? Because other distributions have better support for brand-new consumer hardware. Especially, if you consider the lifetime cycle of CentOS which spans to 2014. Look at this not from the viewpoint of your mom, but from the computershop that wants to sell lots of PCs to very different people (which will expect to see *recent* software) and with (over the years) quite differing hardware. Kai But you don't want to supply consumers with an OS that gets unsupported before next christmas either, so Fedora is not the answer. Ubuntu LTS? /jens -- Jens Larsson, NSC, Linköpings universitet, SE-58183 LINKÖPING, SWEDEN Phone: +46-13-281432, Mobile: +46-709-521432, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG/PGP Key: 1024D/C21BB2C7 2001-02-27 Jens Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key Fingerprint: BAEF 85CF BF1D 7A69 C965 2EE6 C541 D57F C21B B2C7___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
On Tue, October 14, 2008 09:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Sean Carolan wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:13:34 -0500: My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Could somebody explain why ICMP might play a role in mail delivery? ICMP is involved in IP routing, including MTU discovery, announcing failed connections, and so forth. Email is delivered over IP. QED. -- David Dyer-Bennet, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
On 2008-10-14 16:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Sean Carolan wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:13:34 -0500: My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Could somebody explain why ICMP might play a role in mail delivery? Any host may reply to a IP-datagram (tcp included) with e.g. ICMP type 3, code 4 datagram too large and indicating the maximum size in the ICMP reply. Disallowing these ICMP packets can result in a TCP handshake that succeeds, but hangs when the next packets with real data are blocked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMTUD -- Paul Bijnens, xplanation Technology ServicesTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, ^^, * * F6, quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * init 0, kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ... * * ... Are you sure? ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * *** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Squid Number of hits
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 16:54 +0530, lingu wrote: Dear all, I am running squid on centos 5.Is there is any tool to calculate number of ip's hit the server for month wise. Even any command to find out the number of hits is also ok. Calamaris can give you a summary: http://cord.de/tools/squid/calamaris/ John. -- --- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Ralph Angenendt wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:24:08 +0200: If you don't know the smallest MTU on the path to the mail server, you might not be able to send packets over that path, especially if DF is set. But if it's not set? Shouldn't most devices have it not set? Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
We have an issue with some customers who refuse to accept ICMP traffic to their mail servers. It seems that they have put Mordac, preventer of information services in charge of their firewall policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Dilbert#Mordac). My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Oct 14 08:00:50 mailsrv sendmail[2024]: m9ED0Yf5002021: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:16, xdelay=00:00:16, mailer=esmtp, pri=42476, relay=mail.customer.org. [XX.XX.XX.XX], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection reset by mail.customer.org. I have disabled pmtu discovery on our routers as well as on all our outbound mail servers. Is there anything else I can do on our side to help the situation? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Sorin Srbu wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:26:51 +0200: Did you maybe have some special hardware in mind? No. I just wanted to point out that for such a task another distribution *might* be better suited, that's all. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
on 10-14-2008 9:26 AM Sorin Srbu spake the following: Kai Schaetzl scribbled on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:31 PM: Any particular reason why not, if I may ask? Because other distributions have better support for brand-new consumer hardware. Especially, if you consider the lifetime cycle of CentOS which spans to 2014. Look at this not from the viewpoint of your mom, but from the computershop that wants to sell lots of PCs to very different people (which will expect to see *recent* software) and with (over the years) quite differing hardware. I see. Good point. However, brand-new hardware support would mean something like the bleeding edge Fedora (any other distro?). The disadvantage IMHO with eg Fedora is it's short life-cycle though. What is it, a year or so now? FWIW, I've installed CentOS on pretty new stuff, like dual core-mobos with SATA etc, Broadcom integrated and Intel Desktop Pro/1000 NICs and so on. Works fine, so I still don't quite see why it'd not be suitable with settling on eg CentOS, especially if it's set up properly from the beginning by the shop. Did you maybe have some special hardware in mind? Maybe I'm blinded by CentOS running fine on whatever I throw at it so far... /S You just need to read this list to see people having hardware troubles, mostly with SATA and/or network, but those are pretty important to a PC. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Niki Kovacs scribbled on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:44 PM: How would it *technically* be possible to replicate these installs as easily as possible? G4u (Ghost for unix) is your solution. It's free. Have a ftp-and dhcp server available on your network. Install one machine with your preferred linux distro and tweak it as you want it. Boot from the g4u-cd and ghost it to your ftp-server. Boot from the g4u-cd on your next machine and dump the image from your ftp-server to the new machine. Kudzu will take care of everything else. You can do this with several machines at once. The nice thing with kudzu is that your image will work even with a computer that does not have the same hardware. Awesome is just scraping the surface. I use this approach at our department. Works excellent. HTH. /S smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:24:08 +0200: If you don't know the smallest MTU on the path to the mail server, you might not be able to send packets over that path, especially if DF is set. But if it's not set? Shouldn't most devices have it not set? Routers should fragment as needed and the receiving stack will reassemble. Windows tends to set DF on a lot of packets unnecessarily. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Sean Carolan wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:13:34 -0500: My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Could somebody explain why ICMP might play a role in mail delivery? It doesn't really. If the OP had PMTU discovery turned on it would affect most all communications not just email. I can't ever remember having it on for external networks, there's never been a need in my case. It's just likely that the only communications between the OP's systems and the other side was email. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
On Tue, October 14, 2008 12:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:24:08 +0200: If you don't know the smallest MTU on the path to the mail server, you might not be able to send packets over that path, especially if DF is set. But if it's not set? Shouldn't most devices have it not set? Yes, most devices should fragment if necessary (DF not set). Most devices should also pass/accept ICMP messages relating to their connections. Deliberately configuring them not to is asking for trouble; those messages are part of the protocol for a reason. (Fragmentation introduces more work and effectively many more lost packets in most setups, so the flow will be jumpy and less efficient even if it mostly works.) -- David Dyer-Bennet, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum priorities question
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: Hi, The package names are different, so probably geoip (from RPMforge) obsoletes GeoIP from CentOS. In that case, for priorities to work and exclude the one that obsoletes the other, you have to set this option in the [main] section of /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/priorities.conf: check_obsoletes=1 Look for the thread about perl-DBD-mysql vs. perl-DBD-MySQL, it's probably the same issue. HTH, Filipe Yes Filipe, that's it! Obviously, I overlooked this option in priorities.conf. The below text is from http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities: Some packages specify obsoletes in their metadata. This property of a package specifies which old packages with a different name the package replaces. This can intefere with the priority protection of packages, if a package from a low-priority repository contains an obsoletion for package from a high-priority repository. For instance, if the gconfmm2 package was installed from a high-priority repository, and another package (say gconfmm20) claims to replace the obsolete gconfmm2 package, Yum will replace the gconfmm2 package with the gconfmm20 package. This plugin can prevent such upgrades, by adding the following line to the main section of /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/priorities.conf: check_obsoletes=1 This option works nice. Thank you for the hint. Mufit ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum priorities question
Mufit Eribol wrote: Installed package: GeoIP.i386 1.4.4-1.el5.centos Repo: CentOS Extras Priority for CentOS Extras repo: 1 yum update wants to replace the above package with the following: Package: geoip.i386 1.4.5-1.el5.rf Repo: rpmforge Priority for rpmforge: 15 Why does yum try to replace the package from a repo with higher priority? Isn't yum priorities supposed to keep it? Strange, because it works here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation]# yum -v update | grep -i geoip -- geoip-devel-1.4.0-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority) -- geoip-1.4.0-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority) -- geoip-1.4.4-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority) -- geoip-1.4.5-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority) -- geoip-devel-1.4.4-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority) -- geoip-devel-1.4.5-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority) -- GeoIP-devel-1.4.4-2.el5.kb.x86_64 from kbs-CentOS-Testing excluded (priority) -- GeoIP-devel-1.4.4-2.el5.kb.x86_64 from kbs-CentOS-Testing excluded (priority) -- GeoIP-1.4.4-2.el5.kb.x86_64 from kbs-CentOS-Testing excluded (priority) -- GeoIP-1.4.4-2.el5.kb.x86_64 from kbs-CentOS-Testing excluded (priority) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation]# Cheers, Ralph pgpSzYaB9MnIq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum priorities question
Hi, On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 13:47, Mufit Eribol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check_obsoletes=1 Yes Filipe, that's it! This option works nice. Thank you for the hint. No problem! :-) By the way, in a previous thread (rpmforge, perl-dbd-mysql, yum, priorities, centos, and you) it was suggested that this option should be made default in CentOS... developers, any words on that? Is the priorities plug-in CentOS specific or is it upstream provided? In the latter case, could we open a bug upstream for that? Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Scott Silva wrote: on 10-14-2008 6:24 AM Ralph Angenendt spake the following: So you basically broke your internet connection because of stupid customers? No, there isn't anything you can do on your side - especially if you don't know how large their MTU is set (which you cannot discover, as they forbid you to do so). So you can only hope that you get exactly the same MTU as they have (and that there is nothing inbetween which has a lower MTU). It is their problem. If they don't want to play by the rules, they should have to sit out the problems they themselves created. Sometimes you can't be so hard headed when you are dealing with customers. You usually are trying to get them to give money to YOU, not your competitor. If I told my customers that It is your problem, I would no longer have customers to worry about! But your competitor wouldn't be able to send them mails either :) As said, they deliberately broke their internet connection, so there isn't much you can do except setting your MTU to an extremely low value and hope that there's nothing in between which has an even lower MTU. So your best choice would be to do some consulting and give them some advice on what they did wrong and how they can selectively block ICMP types (for example redirect and such). Cheers, Ralph pgprQSeZxMvj2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:24:08 +0200: If you don't know the smallest MTU on the path to the mail server, you might not be able to send packets over that path, especially if DF is set. But if it's not set? Shouldn't most devices have it not set? Fragmentation is bad. That's why you do PMTUD - to see which is the lowest MTU in the path. You then set your packet sizes accordingly and set the DF bit. If the lowest MTU in the path changes to an even lower one you get an error and can continue with smaller packet sizes. If you disallow PMTUD - well, you're asking for trouble :) http://www.znep.com/~marcs/mtu/ has a rather good discussion about that. Ralph pgpwzGQOhGZ4d.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tg3 ethernet card drops connection under heavy load
There was nothing out of the ordinary in /var/log/messages. The logging just stops after the network card drops offline. dmesg also shows nothing out of the ordinary when the driver is loaded. The network card works fine until it is under heavy load. Since you are running CentOS 3 I am assuming this server has been in production for some time. Did these symptoms just start? Did you do any updates before this started happening? Did you install this equipment, or did you assume admin duties from someone else? Maybe it had the HP net driver installed, and a kernel update broke that. It appears to be a faulty NIC card. We moved the connection over to the other card and have not had any problems since. Sometimes it's just plain broken! :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Niki Kovacs wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:44:19 +0200: How would it *technically* be possible to replicate these installs as easily as possible? Kickstart. I wouldn't be so sure that CentOS would be the best choice for a brand-new consumer desktop, though. You might want to use Fedora which is also kickstartable. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Ralph Angenendt wrote: As said, they deliberately broke their internet connection, so there isn't much you can do except setting your MTU to an extremely low value and hope that there's nothing in between which has an even lower MTU. It doesn't have to be extremely low, it just has to be low enough. The usual reason for needing to be less than the 1500 bytes permitted by ethernet would be using some sort of tunnel protocol for PPOE or a VPN. 1460 might keep everybody happy. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Niki Kovacs wrote: How would it *technically* be possible to replicate these installs as easily as possible? The hardware is always the same, so I wonder: I have a vague idea about disk images (to be more precise: I know disk images well as far as burning CDs on the commandline is concerned, or when it comes to installing an OS in VirtualBox using the .iso)... but is there a way to somehow transform an existing install into a disk image, and then simply copy these over to all the other machines? (I've never done this) Clonezilla is probably the fastest/easiest way. There are 2 versions. Clonezilla-live boots from a CD or USB drive and lets you save or restore a disk or partition image using local or network storage via nfs, sshfs, or samba. For windows and most linux filesystems it knows enough to only save the used portions of the disk. You can also make a bootable DVD containing an image to load. For large numbers of machines there is the companion drbl to network-boot into clonezilla. http://clonezilla.org/ -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Squid proxy High Availability
So i am planned to go for one more Centos5 server with cluster.Can any one suggest me how to design it either i have to go for common storage for storing all global files or i need to synchronize both the server periodically by running instance on local disk of both the servers. You could also make them peer caches of one another and you could also use Linux Virtual Server .. part of the Cluster Suite to load balance .. although you would need to make sure that you have persistence enabled. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Thanks for the information. If I understand this correctly, the client would have to convince the owner of each and every router hop along the way to disable PMTU discovery if he insists on dropping all ICMP packets? And Scott hit the nail on the head with this comment: Sometimes you can't be so hard headed when you are dealing with customers. You usually are trying to get them to give money to YOU, not your competitor. If I told my customers that It is your problem, I would no longer have customers to worry about! If you've ever dealt with with one of these paranoid Mordac-type security managers you know exactly what I'm talking about. In our case the path of least resistance was to disable pmtu discovery, and tell the customer that we've done all we possibly can to alleviate the issue on our end. Hopefully they come to their senses and allow ICMP packets like every major ISP and mail provider on the Internet. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Les Mikesell wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: As said, they deliberately broke their internet connection, so there isn't much you can do except setting your MTU to an extremely low value and hope that there's nothing in between which has an even lower MTU. It doesn't have to be extremely low, it just has to be low enough. The usual reason for needing to be less than the 1500 bytes permitted by ethernet would be using some sort of tunnel protocol for PPOE or a VPN. 1460 might keep everybody happy. Might being the operative word here, yes. Ralph pgprG3ULaNFXt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Sean Carolan wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:13:34 -0500: My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Could somebody explain why ICMP might play a role in mail delivery? Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Weird problem in PHP 5.1.6/possible bug
Kai Schaetzl wrote: As you might have seen I actually found a workaround. Your findings on CentOS 4 suggest that it is a specific problem on the CentOS/RHEL 5 platform. The PHP 5 coming with CentOS 5 is set to a locale of C and doesn't match the locale of the system! I guess I file a bug now. Thanks! Kai No problem !! :-) Patrick ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum priorities question
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Strange, because it works here:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation]# yum -v update | grep -i geoip
-- geoip-devel-1.4.0-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority)
-- geoip-1.4.0-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority)
-- geoip-1.4.4-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority)
-- geoip-1.4.5-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority)
-- geoip-devel-1.4.4-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority)
-- geoip-devel-1.4.5-1.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge excluded (priority)
-- GeoIP-devel-1.4.4-2.el5.kb.x86_64 from kbs-CentOS-Testing excluded
(priority)
-- GeoIP-devel-1.4.4-2.el5.kb.x86_64 from kbs-CentOS-Testing excluded
(priority)
-- GeoIP-1.4.4-2.el5.kb.x86_64 from kbs-CentOS-Testing excluded (priority)
-- GeoIP-1.4.4-2.el5.kb.x86_64 from kbs-CentOS-Testing excluded (priority)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation]#
Here is what I get,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum -v update | grep -i geoip
--- Package geoip.i386 0:1.4.5-1.el5.rf set to be updated
Checking deps for geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.2)', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libz.so.1', None, (None, None, None)) as a requirement of
geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libGeoIPUpdate.so.0', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('config(geoip)', 'EQ', ('0', '1.4.5', '1.el5.rf')) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('rtld(GNU_HASH)', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('/sbin/ldconfig', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libc.so.6', None, (None, None, None)) as a requirement of
geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libGeoIP.so.1', None, (None, None, None)) as a requirement
of geoip.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
--- Package geoip-devel.i386 0:1.4.5-1.el5.rf set to be updated
Checking deps for geoip-devel.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libGeoIPUpdate.so.0', None, (None, None, None)) as a
requirement of geoip-devel.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('geoip', 'EQ', ('0', '1.4.5', '1.el5.rf')) as a requirement
of geoip-devel.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
looking for ('libGeoIP.so.1', None, (None, None, None)) as a requirement
of geoip-devel.i386 0-1.4.5-1.el5.rf - u
Checking deps for GeoIP.i386 0-1.4.4-1.el5.centos - None
Checking deps for GeoIP-devel.i386 0-1.4.4-1.el5.centos - None
geoip i386 1.4.5-1.el5.rf rpmforge 750 k
replacing GeoIP.i386 1.4.4-1.el5.centos
geoip-devel i386 1.4.5-1.el5.rf rpmforge 7.1 k
replacing GeoIP-devel.i386 1.4.4-1.el5.centos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qa |grep geoip
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qa|grep GeoIP
GeoIP-data-20080301-1.el5.centos
GeoIP-devel-1.4.4-1.el5.centos
GeoIP-1.4.4-1.el5.centos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
I have no clue about what is going on?
Regards,
Mufit
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] What is the best network monitoring tool?
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Currently I have a big question. What is the best OPEN SOURCE solution for monitoring multiple Host and Services, for example for using in a WebHosting Provider with 50 hosts or more. I've had good luck with mon. Written in Perl and supports plug-in monitor and alert modules. The modules are easy to write. It's better than most largely advertised system monitoring/alert packages because it is simple in design, configuration is flexible, and it supports a large number of hosts. http://mon.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page Currently, I'm using NAGIOS for more than 3 years, this is a incredible tool, but before upgrade to version 3, I have this existential question. Please fill free to recommend any soft, but with this option in mind. 1- Easy option to personalize any plug-in 2- Good Documentation 3- Support large platforms 4- Run over Linux Sorry for me English Regards Alejandro www.linuxiso.com.ar from Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -Tim ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:07:49 +0100
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA-2008:0941 CentOS 5 i386 tzdata Update
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CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2008:0941
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2008-0941.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename )
i386:
4d07003c43de6180f963b2b328a1e393 tzdata-2008f-3.el5.noarch.rpm
Source:
bcd14bd131497e7d98e6bbee5ea3925c tzdata-2008f-3.el5.src.rpm
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:05:28 +0100
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2008:0898 CentOS 5 x86_64 cman Update
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2008:0898
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0898.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename )
x86_64:
03ea6dc53f1f8dafbdd7f1ed4ad89202 cman-2.0.84-2.el5_2.1.x86_64.rpm
cde78e5a359c0dbc63ea1b30e17732cd cman-devel-2.0.84-2.el5_2.1.i386.rpm
937f6e0bcfb919d25ed7224242c6c3fe cman-devel-2.0.84-2.el5_2.1.x86_64.rpm
Source:
cfbe50d6963234894a58284a74f9ccd8 cman-2.0.84-2.el5_2.1.src.rpm
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:07:49 +0100
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CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2008:0941
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2008-0941.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename )
x86_64:
8bd20795a670c58085ccfecd61df199c tzdata-2008f-3.el5.noarch.rpm
Source:
bcd14bd131497e7d98e6bbee5ea3925c tzdata-2008f-3.el5.src.rpm
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2008:0898
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0898.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename )
i386:
ffcd533b5e83a92e4336d44b7c617d41 cman-2.0.84-2.el5_2.1.i386.rpm
f771de6845cefbe6d84fa9ef415e55cd cman-devel-2.0.84-2.el5_2.1.i386.rpm
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:28:41 +0100
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Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Sean Carolan a écrit : We have an issue with some customers who refuse to accept ICMP traffic to their mail servers. It seems that they have put Mordac, preventer of information services in charge of their firewall policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Dilbert#Mordac). My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Oct 14 08:00:50 mailsrv sendmail[2024]: m9ED0Yf5002021: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:16, xdelay=00:00:16, mailer=esmtp, pri=42476, relay=mail.customer.org. [XX.XX.XX.XX], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection reset by mail.customer.org. I have disabled pmtu discovery on our routers as well as on all our outbound mail servers. Is there anything else I can do on our side to help the situation? Consider setting a small MTU (or MSS, ) for the borked networks instead of changing your setup globally. something like ip route add 192.0.2.0/24 via 10.0.0.1 mtu 1000 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] App Question.
Hi list!! Got a question, and I can't find a good answer for, so I figured i'd post here. I'm working on a project that involves a number of smaller apps to be developed, and run. In order to build this overall application, I'm trying to find a web based app that I can use to manage the entire process. I need to be able to create the basic app, and then to test the app, and then to run the app in a production environment. I need to be able to schedule when the app is tested/run in the production system, as well as be able to track the status of the test/production app. My overall system will have 100's of these smaller child apps. Has anyone heard of, or have any pointers to any kind of webbased app that I can use (open source) to manage this entire kind of process. I would prefer a web based app, that runs on a LAMP platform to manage this overall process Thanks ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Sean Carolan wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:13:34 -0500: My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Could somebody explain why ICMP might play a role in mail delivery? If you don't know the smallest MTU on the path to the mail server, you might not be able to send packets over that path, especially if DF is set. Ralph pgpsLfanbEq6J.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Kai Schaetzl scribbled on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:21 PM: I wouldn't be so sure that CentOS would be the best choice for a brand-new consumer desktop, though. Any particular reason why not, if I may ask? It works fine for my computer-ignorant 50+ mom. /S smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Sendmail and pmtu discovery
Kai Schaetzl a écrit : Ralph Angenendt wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:24:08 +0200: If you don't know the smallest MTU on the path to the mail server, you might not be able to send packets over that path, especially if DF is set. But if it's not set? Shouldn't most devices have it not set? It's not per device. It's a method to improve performances. http://www.znep.com/~marcs/mtu/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] looking for good web based DNS script to check nameservers
FYI. I tried the Web site Robert Spangler posted: http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheckdomainf.aspx We failed some of their tests because THEIR DNS isn't set up properly. -- Brent L. Bates (UNIX Sys. Admin.) M.S. 912 Phone:(757) 865-1400, x204 NASA Langley Research CenterFAX:(757) 865-8177 Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vigyan.com/~blbates/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] /var/amavis
Jussi Hirvi wrote: Hello all, My /etc/group is not quite in order (a long story), and now I need to correct privileges right here and there. I would ask someone who has amavisd-new to show me the corresponding listing as this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] amavis]# ls -l /var/amavis total 20 -rw-r- 1 amavis 5000 Oct 13 15:05 amavisd.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 amavis mail5 Oct 13 11:06 amavisd-milter.pid srwxr-xr-x 1 amavis mail0 Oct 13 11:06 amavisd-milter.sock -rw-r- 1 amavis mail5 Oct 13 14:58 amavisd.pid srwxr-x--- 1 amavis mail0 Oct 13 14:58 amavisd.sock drwxr-x--- 2 amavis 500 4096 Oct 13 14:58 db drwxr-xr-x 4 amavis mail 4096 Oct 13 15:10 tmp drwxr-x--- 2 amavis 500 4096 Mar 13 2008 var Especially I'm not sure anymore about what that group id 500 should be. Thanks in advance, Jussi Ned Slider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (13.10.2008 16:11): $ ls -l /var/amavis/ total 28 srwxr-x--- 1 amavis amavis0 Oct 13 11:17 amavisd.sock drwxr-x--- 2 amavis amavis 4096 Oct 13 11:17 db drwxr-x--- 7 amavis amavis 4096 Oct 13 13:03 tmp drwxr-x--- 3 amavis amavis 4096 Oct 13 11:17 var Group ID 500 is normally the first regular user account on the system. Looks like you've made the amavis user's primary group to be your's (or whoever the user group ID 500 is). I'm not quite sure why your amavis user appears to be in the mail group - perhaps you have amavisd-new set up differently to me. Mine is set up according to the guide on the Wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd Hope that helps Yes, thanks. The amavis-milter in my setup is redundant, afaik. It's inherited from an howto I followed earlier: http://www.scalix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Scalix/Sendmail_%26_Amavisd-New_H OWTO My final setup is based on this README file: /usr/share/doc/amavisd-new-2.5.4/README.sendmail-dual Regards, Jussi -- Jussi Hirvi * Green Spot Topeliuksenkatu 15 C * 00250 Helsinki * Finland Tel. fax +358 9 493 981 * Mobile +358 40 771 2098 (only sms) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.greenspot.fi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: Sendmail and pmtu discovery
on 10-14-2008 6:24 AM Ralph Angenendt spake the following: Sean Carolan wrote: We have an issue with some customers who refuse to accept ICMP traffic to their mail servers. It seems that they have put Mordac, preventer of information services in charge of their firewall policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Dilbert#Mordac). BUT ICMP IS BAD!¡ My mail logs are showing that customers who specifically disallow ICMP traffic have many Connection Reset entries in our logs: Oct 14 08:00:50 mailsrv sendmail[2024]: m9ED0Yf5002021: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:16, xdelay=00:00:16, mailer=esmtp, pri=42476, relay=mail.customer.org. [XX.XX.XX.XX], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection reset by mail.customer.org. I have disabled pmtu discovery on our routers as well as on all our outbound mail servers. Is there anything else I can do on our side to help the situation? So you basically broke your internet connection because of stupid customers? No, there isn't anything you can do on your side - especially if you don't know how large their MTU is set (which you cannot discover, as they forbid you to do so). So you can only hope that you get exactly the same MTU as they have (and that there is nothing inbetween which has a lower MTU). It is their problem. If they don't want to play by the rules, they should have to sit out the problems they themselves created. Sometimes you can't be so hard headed when you are dealing with customers. You usually are trying to get them to give money to YOU, not your competitor. If I told my customers that It is your problem, I would no longer have customers to worry about! -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Hi, I'm running a small Linux consulting business here in a group of small villages in the South of France (http://www.microlinux.fr). I'm using CentOS for everything, servers as well as desktops. The desktop installs are usually highly customized. My approach is to list the client's needs, find the corresponding applications and then install these, to avoid the bloat and increase usability. So far, this approach worked quite well. One complete install and configuration takes about 4 hours, depending on various factors such as bandwidth (internet is not very fast in our remote places here) and sometimes exotic hardware that is tricky to configure. Yesterday I had a conversation with the boss of a computer store in town. One of his standard PC models (desktop) is an ACER (PIV dual core, 3 GB RAM, 320 GB HD, ATI card) shipped with Windows Vista, and sold for a price of 315 euros. He told me he would be very interested to sell these machines with Linux installed, as this would allow him to lower the price. Now I wonder: 1) Say I want to install my own customized version of CentOS on it, I usually charge a fixed amount of 240 euros for installing and configuring a complete desktop, tailored to the customer's needs (average: 4 hours of work = 60 euros / h). But I think that this is not what's expected here (neither the price nor the amount of work). How would it *technically* be possible to replicate these installs as easily as possible? The hardware is always the same, so I wonder: I have a vague idea about disk images (to be more precise: I know disk images well as far as burning CDs on the commandline is concerned, or when it comes to installing an OS in VirtualBox using the .iso)... but is there a way to somehow transform an existing install into a disk image, and then simply copy these over to all the other machines? (I've never done this) 2) Otherwise, go for a more mass-oriented distro like Ubuntu, Mint or the likes? What speaks for it: they can be installed very easily, insert the CD or the DVD, fill in the form (username, password, hostname, there you go). On the other hand, I've always been careful about picking my applications in a best of the breed way, and I would feel like a traditional taylor working for C A. 3) Let's not forget about the users who are going to buy this. Whereas folks can always be expected (more or less) to administrate their own Ubuntu install, this looks less obvious with CentOS. Or let's say: forums.centos.org is not exactly a newbie forum, at least compared to Ubuntu. I guess your average newbie will not be very pleased with the prevailing tone of competent techno-laconism (compared to Ubuntu or the likes). I'd be curious to read your suggestions about this. Cheers, Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?
Hi, I've read on LPI Linux Certification (Ed O'Reilly) in a nutshell the following thing: parted, unfortunately, has been known to corrupt partition tables and ruin filesystem. What do you think about it? Greets! -- -- Open Kairos http://www.openkairos.com Watch More TV http://sebelk.blogspot.com Sergio Belkin - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Squid Number of hits
lingu scribbled on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:24 PM: I am running squid on centos 5.Is there is any tool to calculate number of ip's hit the server for month wise. Even any command to find out the number of hits is also ok. http://www.google.se/linux?num=50hl=ensafe=offq=squid+report+generatorbtnG =Search HTH. /S smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Samba Hosts Allow/Deny
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 09:08 -0600, Joseph L. Casale wrote: I am running CentOS 5.2 w/ Samba 3.0.28 and have a basic user level setup and am trying to use hosts allow and deny but it does not have an effect? I have specified them in the share level of the config. I have tried: hosts allow = 192.168.0.72/32 hosts deny = 0.0.0.0/0 Also: ; hosts allow = 192.168.0.72/32 hosts deny = 0.0.0.0/0 except 192.168.0.72/32 Still, any hosts can gain access? Can anyone shed some light on this? man page suggests that you use this type of reference... hosts allow = 192.168.0.72/255.255.255.255 Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?
Sergio Belkin wrote: Hi, I've read on LPI Linux Certification (Ed O'Reilly) in a nutshell the following thing: parted, unfortunately, has been known to corrupt partition tables and ruin filesystem. Sounds like a question for the parted list, not here. Plenty of stuff in CentOS uses parted, and there is nothing you can do about it. And Just to remind everyone that no, this is still not a general conversation about stuff list. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] App Question.
bruce wrote: Got a question, and I can't find a good answer for, so I figured i'd post here. I'm working on a project that involves a number of smaller apps to be developed, and run. In order to build this overall application, I'm trying to find a web based app that I can use to manage the entire process. a) dont crosspost, its considered a waste of space b) your email is OffTopic here. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] yum priorities question
Hello, I have a question about working principles of yum. Here are the details: Installed package: GeoIP.i386 1.4.4-1.el5.centos Repo: CentOS Extras Priority for CentOS Extras repo: 1 yum update wants to replace the above package with the following: Package: geoip.i386 1.4.5-1.el5.rf Repo: rpmforge Priority for rpmforge: 15 And yes, the following is already in the priorities.conf [main] enabled=1 Why does yum try to replace the package from a repo with higher priority? Isn't yum priorities supposed to keep it? Regards, Mufit ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] App Question.
Karanbir in this case, i disagree. we're looking for a tool, that may very well exist with the very admins/engineers who use centos/rhel/etc... the whole purpose of the email lists is to share information that's directly related to the topic as well as to information that's 2-3 degrees tangental to the topic as well... but we can choose to disagree peace -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karanbir Singh Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:15 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] App Question. bruce wrote: Got a question, and I can't find a good answer for, so I figured i'd post here. I'm working on a project that involves a number of smaller apps to be developed, and run. In order to build this overall application, I'm trying to find a web based app that I can use to manage the entire process. a) dont crosspost, its considered a waste of space b) your email is OffTopic here. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Sendmail and pmtu discovery
On Oct 14, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Sean Carolan wrote: If you've ever dealt with with one of these paranoid Mordac-type security managers you know exactly what I'm talking about. In our case the path of least resistance was to disable pmtu discovery, and tell the customer that we've done all we possibly can to alleviate the issue on our end. Hopefully they come to their senses and allow ICMP packets like every major ISP and mail provider on the Internet. Yes, but then you have broken your equipment, and possibly lost the ability to communicate with many more customers. Yes, I've dealt with these people. If they turn off all ICMP, they often drop fragments as well, making the problem even worse. You can sometimes get them to listen by asking them if their Internet access seems a little weird in that some sites work sometimes or downloads are slow or they can't get some email :-) They'll usually say yes and then you might be able to get them to listen, and hopefully send them a bill. --Chris ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Centos 5x ipv6 sendmail smtps
Hi all, I'm working my way through v6ing our network. I have a mail server with the default dovecot/sendmail configuration working happily for pop3, pop3s, imap, imaps, smtp, and smtps on v4. I have managed to get all but smtps working on v6. Following is the relevant sendmail.mc - DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=MTA-v4, Family=inet, Name=MTA-v6, Family=inet6') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtps, Name=TLSMTA, M=s')dnl I've googled to no avail as yet, anyone know what the relevant config would be ? thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# telnet 2:removed::191 smtp Trying 2:removed::191... Connected to 2:removed::191 (2:removed::191). Escape character is '^]'. 220 new-removed.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.8/8.13.8; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:45:52 +1300 quit 221 2.0.0 new-mail.safenz.net closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# telnet 2:removed::191 smtps Trying 2:removed::191... telnet: connect to address 2:removed::191: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# telnet 127.0.0.1 smtps Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to new-removed.net (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. quit Connection closed by foreign host. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:13:18PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: And Just to remind everyone that no, this is still not a general conversation about stuff list. How off-topic is it to ask precisely what is on-topic for this list if questions and discussions of the included components belong on the support mechanisms for those individual parts, and the rest (ie anaconda and friends) probably belongs in the upstream vendor's forums? What does that leave? The color of the logo? (I like the blue.) -- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xdroop.com pgpCpqHcm20c6.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Extract text from Microsoft PowerPoint files
Hello CentOS people, I'm wondering if there are command tools like antiword and docx2txt for Microsoft PowerPoint files (.ppt and .pptx). The idea is to extract text from PowerPoint files. Sorry this isn't exactly about CentOS, but I'd really like it if Yum has something. I tried xlhtml, but it hasn't been updated in a while and isn't exactly wanting to work on CentOS 5. Thank you, ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Extract text from Microsoft PowerPoint files
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:13:55PM -0400, Yanagisawa, Koji wrote: Hello CentOS people, I'm wondering if there are command tools like antiword and docx2txt for Microsoft PowerPoint files (.ppt and .pptx). The idea is to extract text from PowerPoint files. Sorry this isn't exactly about CentOS, but I'd really like it if Yum has something. I tried xlhtml, but it hasn't been updated in a while and isn't exactly wanting to work on CentOS 5. Note QUITE what you're asking for, but OOo (OpenOffice.Org) reads and presents powerpoint files quite nicely... -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Lord detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness. - Proverbs 15:9 (niv) - pgpLaZooFTj89.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] USB external HDD error messages
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:38 AM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guest wrote: Sorry to double up on your answer like this, but is there any chance that the i/o errors are due to a bad usb cable, or usb card in the main computer? I didn't mention before that the external hdd that the seagate is replacing also reported a lot of i/o errors and kept disconnecting itself, which is why I replaced it Perhaps the drive is spinning down without informing the OS. I recall an issue last year(?) about some USB drives not behaving properly and spinning down without informing the OS, then the OS tries to access them it gets an I/O error. All of my 2.5 western digital external USB drives seem to behave correctly when going into power save mode, have never had an I/O error as a result of them spinning down. nate Revivifying an old thread only long enough to say, somewhat unhelpfully, that all of my USB problems seem to have gone away as a result of my upgrading my kernel to 2.6.27. Unfortunately I am not knowledgeable enough to guess why this is so, but I'm adding a conclusion to my thread as a possible clue for the archive-diver. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] formatting large volume
I just got a new server with a Dell MD-1000 SAS unit and 6-750 gigabyte drives which are now initializing in RAID 10 which will give me just about 2 terabytes. I vaguely recall reading that fdisk wasn't suitable for partitioning and wonder if I shouldn't be using partd instead. I am also wondering if I should use lvm or just mkfs to create the filesystem. Anyone have suggestions before I blunder in? Thanks Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] formatting large volume
I vaguely recall reading that fdisk wasn't suitable for partitioning and wonder if I shouldn't be using partd instead. I am also wondering if I should use lvm or just mkfs to create the filesystem. Anyone have suggestions before I blunder in? fdisk can't do GPT which is what you need for partitions larger than 2tb, so you use parted w/ gpt. If it were mine, I'd partition it as one big chunk and mark it LVM, then carve it out so you have the flexibility. After all, you already made it one array so making partitions out of it only limits you down the road. YMMV, jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] creating a user from an RPM package
Spiro Harvey wrote:
Alternatively, if you could point me to a package or a spec file that
does this, I'd be much obliged.
From the postifx srpm..
%define postfix_uid89
%define postfix_user postfix
%define postfix_gid89
%define postfix_group postfix
%define postdrop_group postdrop
%define maildrop_group %{postdrop_group}
%define maildrop_gid %{POSTDROP_GID}
[..]
%pre
# Add user and groups if necessary
%{_sbindir}/groupadd -g %{maildrop_gid} -r %{maildrop_group} 2/dev/null
%{_sbindir}/groupadd -g %{postfix_gid} -r %{postfix_group} 2/dev/null
%{_sbindir}/groupadd -g 12 -r mail 2/dev/null
%{_sbindir}/useradd -d %{postfix_queue_dir} -s /sbin/nologin -g
%{postfix_group} -G mail -M -r -u %{postfix_uid} %{postfix_user} 2/dev/null
exit 0
--
I don't see anything that removes the user as part of
rpm removal, though you could just use userdel/groupdel.
nate
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Re: [CentOS] creating a user from an RPM package
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 16:22 +1300, Spiro Harvey wrote: What wizardry do you guys use in the SPEC file when creating/deleting a user from an RPM package? I was going to create a macro like: %define user(login,uid,gid,name,homedir,shell) \ echo $1:x:$2:$3:$4:$5:$6 /etc/passwd; \ echo $1:!!:12005:0:9:7::: /etc/shadow; \ echo $1:x:$3: /etc/group; \ mkdir -p $5; \ chown $2:$3 $5 and then appropriate sedness and rm's when removing it, but I figure there has to be a cleaner way, or a builtin as this surely is a common feature. The RPM guide doesn't seem to mention it, or if it does, I missed it. Alternatively, if you could point me to a package or a spec file that does this, I'd be much obliged. You know, you could always use the useradd command... -I ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Sendmail rbl - Need to bypass rbl for one local address
Hi, Hope any one can help me. I am running centos 5.2 with sendmail and rbl feature. I need to recieve all emails come to my sales account regardless of rbl . I looked on web and gave up. All I found was if I added To:sales@ ok in my sendmail.mc , sales account will bypass rbl and get all the emails but its not working. Any help ? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] creating a user from an RPM package
nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the postifx srpm.. thanks. and to you Ian; looks like useradd is the standard way. :) clamav uses it too. -- Spiro Harvey Knossos Networks Ltd 021-295-1923www.knossos.net.nz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?
Until CentOS 4.7, parted would create DOS partitions 2Tb. DOS partitions can not be 2Tb. This could ...corrupt partition tables and ruin filesystem. The latest version from CentOS 4.7 fixes this (and other) bugs. John. Sergio Belkin wrote: Hi, I've read on LPI Linux Certification (Ed O'Reilly) in a nutshell the following thing: parted, unfortunately, has been known to corrupt partition tables and ruin filesystem. What do you think about it? Greets! -- John Newbigin ITS Senior Analyst / Programmer Faculty of Information and Communication Technologies Swinburne University of Technology Melbourne, Australia http://www.ict.swin.edu.au/staff/jnewbigin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines
Thanks very much everybody for your numerous comments. I guess I got much more than I expected. Cheers, Niki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
