[CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Max Hetrick

Hi everyone,

I added a page under the HowTos for Encryption, and then added a guide 
for encrypting /tmp /swap and /home using cryptsetup and LUKS keys on 
LVM, when you already have partitions setup.


http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/EncryptTmpSwapHome

Regards,
Max
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Max Hetrick

Marcus Moeller wrote:



Please try to follow the wiki styling guidelines:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowToContribute/EditingCentOSWiki

That means you should e.g. use headings for titles and subtitles. Take
a look at existing pages to see what I mean.



I write my stuff in HTML, and then use html2wiki to format it. My 
headings are formatted for my website, which saves me from writing two 
sets of documents since both places are identical in content to the page.


It's never been a problem before with all the pages I've contributed to, 
at least no one has spoke up with the other pages.


Max
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Max Hetrick

Marcus Moeller wrote:


We are just trying to offer a common look  feel on the wiki. I am
going to rework you page so that you can see what I mean.


I understand and know what you mean, but it can be cumbersome and time 
consuming to have to write pages in multiple formats. I like writing 
docs for CentOS, but I also host them on my website where they are 
written in HTML first. I find wiki syntax to be annoying to write first 
drafts in, because that's just my preference.


I'll try to more mindful about it in the future, on future posts and 
pages. Would you prefer to have documentation submitted by the community 
and people like myself who volunteer docs to delegated members to format 
uniformly on the wiki, rather than posting it myself?


Regards,
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Dag Wieers

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Max Hetrick wrote:


Marcus Moeller wrote:


 We are just trying to offer a common look  feel on the wiki. I am
 going to rework you page so that you can see what I mean.


I understand and know what you mean, but it can be cumbersome and time 
consuming to have to write pages in multiple formats. I like writing docs for 
CentOS, but I also host them on my website where they are written in HTML 
first. I find wiki syntax to be annoying to write first drafts in, because 
that's just my preference.


I'll try to more mindful about it in the future, on future posts and pages. 
Would you prefer to have documentation submitted by the community and people 
like myself who volunteer docs to delegated members to format uniformly on 
the wiki, rather than posting it myself?


Would it be possible to change the resulting output of your html2wiki 
script to something the CentOS Wiki uses ? I don't think it can be that 
hard as it mainly is the syntax for the headings.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Max Hetrick

Marcus Moeller wrote:


First I just want to make one thing clear: I really appreciate your
work which is well done. There are just some small formatting rules
you should mind of.

As mentioned it's mostly about headings. I am going to rework it for
you. In general I (and a few other wiki contributors) try to take care
of the styling and re-work pages to fulfill our needs. But (at least
me) always add changelog notes on style modification to line out what
I have done and try to talk to the original contributor so that she/he
could do in on her/his own on future additions.


I'm not trying to start an argument, so let's just drop this 
conversation and  I'll deal with it. When I get time, I'll re-work all 
my pages on the wiki with what you want, but I can't guarantee when that 
will be.


Thanks,
Max

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Max Hetrick

Dag Wieers wrote:


Would it be possible to change the resulting output of your html2wiki 
script to something the CentOS Wiki uses ? I don't think it can be that 
hard as it mainly is the syntax for the headings.



Dag,

I don't know, honestly. It's a Perl program I found, and I'm not a 
programmer. There seem to be no options for changing the output of what 
headings you want equaling to the outcome.


http://search.cpan.org/dist/HTML-WikiConverter/bin/html2wiki

You just choose a wiki dialect and it spits out the formatting, without 
much option for anything else.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Max Hetrick

Marcus Moeller wrote:


There are just some small formatting rules
you should mind of.


Fixed. I also fixed all my other pages while I was at it, so I didn't 
have to worry about them.


In the future, I'll make sure the formatting is correct on any new 
material I submit.


Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Max Hetrick

Filipe Brandenburger wrote:


html2wiki --dialect MoinMoin my_file.html | sed '/^=/s/==\(=*\)/\1/g'


Thanks, Filipe.

That changes all the headings to = Title 1 =. I think I'll contact the 
maintainer of html2wiki and see if they know whether or not the MoinMoin 
dialect is behaving the way it is.


Once I investigated it, I really think it's not behaving the way it 
should for MoinMoin.


In the meantime, I'll play around with your sed one-liner there.

Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:40, Max Hetrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 html2wiki --dialect MoinMoin my_file.html | sed '/^=/s/==\(=*\)/\1/g'

 That changes all the headings to = Title 1 =.

No it doesn't. It removes two = from each line that starts with a
= (i.e. is a title line). So it transforms

=== title 3 ===into   = title 1 =
 title 4 into   == title 2 ==
= title 5 =into   === title 3 ===

Wasn't that what you needed?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-15 Thread Max Hetrick

Filipe Brandenburger wrote:


No it doesn't. It removes two = from each line that starts with a
= (i.e. is a title line). So it transforms

=== title 3 ===into   = title 1 =
 title 4 into   == title 2 ==
= title 5 =into   === title 3 ===


Ahhh, crap! You're right. I realized I just ran it on the file that I 
corrected into proper formatting, that I used to change the guide into 
what the wiki format needs.


It's been a long day.

Thanks, again.

I'll use this until I get my things fixed up, and then I'll still 
contact the html2wiki developer to get this corrected for good.


Thanks a bunch.
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[CentOS-es] mensaje

2008-10-15 Thread Christian Heymann
buenos dias requiero mas informacion de la lista de mnsajes y si puedo
enviar publicidad mediante ella

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Re: [CentOS-es] mensaje

2008-10-15 Thread Ernesto Miranda
Necesita alguna respuesta este tarado?

Christian Heymann escribió:
 buenos dias requiero mas informacion de la lista de mnsajes y si puedo
 enviar publicidad mediante ella

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Re: [CentOS-es] mensaje

2008-10-15 Thread Francisco Collao Gárate
Christian Heymann wrote:
 buenos dias requiero mas informacion de la lista de mnsajes y si puedo
 enviar publicidad mediante ella

No y merece las penas del infierno!

Quien modera la lista?

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Re: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org

2008-10-15 Thread Santiago Lafuente
Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez escribió:
 hola Estimados

 la gente de CentOS está valorando la posibilidad, a ver, en realidad
 es que quieren sacar el sitio de CentOS.org en varios idiomas.

 Al momento han sacaro fr.centos.org (si te fijas no es totalmente
 igual al www.centos.org y eso ha provocado algunas quejas). Lo que
 hallo más interesante es la posibilidad de tener un foro en español.

 Personalmente no tengo mucho tiempo, pero me lancé como Bartolo (el
 que se brinda sólo) a ver si puedo ayudar, pero solicitaría si algunos
 de uds tiene interés en ayudar a implementarlo me lo comuniquen para
 yo pasarle a Karanbir Singh uno de los más populares colaboradores de
 CentOS que está solicitando gente que se brinde al tema.

 En principio tengo claro que hará falta gente para crear el sitio, o
 mejor aún para traducir las partes estáticas. Hacer los enlaces a la
 lista en español, en fin todo cuando pueda hacerse sobre el tema.. y
 después irían los foros. Si la cosa va como fr.centos.org sería
 interesante poder separar en foros los temas.

 ¿Les parece?

So se si llego a tiempo (como podéis ver llevo bastante retraso con
los correos de las listas) y, como muchos de aquí me imagino, no tengo
demasiado tiempo disponible por lo que no puedo comprometerme a tareas
muy complejas o costosas pero si hay algo en lo que pueda ayudar aquí estoy.

Un saludo a todos.
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Re: [CentOS-es] mensaje

2008-10-15 Thread Daniel Listas de Linux
Va morao como se dice por mis tierras, jeje ;-)

El 15 de octubre de 2008 16:10, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Christian Heymann wrote:

 buenos dias requiero mas informacion de la lista de mnsajes y si puedo
 enviar publicidad mediante ella

  no, publicidad no se envía aqui.

 Si quieres enviar una propuesta de trabajo usando CentOS (o cualquier linux
 en general) puedes hacernosla llegar a los centos-owners y nosotros te
 ayudamos posteándola en la lista inmediatamente. Esto aplica para todos los
 de la lista, si necesitan ofrecer algún trabajo contáctenos para nosotros
 enviarlo a la lista gustosamente.

 recuerda que la publicidad, spam, información, avisos o cualquier tipo de
 envíos masivos no solicitados NO son permitidos, tolerados ni aceptados en
 nuestra lista. Esta es una lista de CentOS Linux en Español y solo queremos
 saber de CentOS Linux o de Linux en esta lista, nada más.

 Y por lo tanto el reglamento a la ley de comercio electrónico ecuatoriana
 (jurisdicción a la cual pareces pertenecer) advierte que en caso de no
 aceptarse el recibo de un correo no puede este ser enviado.

 En cualquier otro caso mejor asume que no, no aceptamos publicidad.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Hola linux

2008-10-15 Thread Daniel Listas de Linux
Te doy unos recursitos para que te los mires, Bienvenido a Linux, el
siguiente paso es que infectes a más personas con este 'virus' no lucrativo

Guia de linux http://www.guiaslinux.org/
Más manuales, recuerdo que aquí conseguí compilar mi primer nucleo de linux
super personalizado http://www.linux-es.org/documentacion
Alternativas libres a aplicaciones propietarias, en castellano -
http://www.freealts.com/
Información sobre nuestra loco-cultura y extras de información -
http://barrapunto.com/
Saber algo más: - Google.es ;-)

Si quieres saber algo concreto en profundidad avisa y te compartimos algun
recurso. Tómate todo con calma y no desesperes, ya tienes la puerta
principal abierta, ahora eres libre.

Saludos
El 14 de octubre de 2008 6:29, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Walfrido Cobas Portuondo wrote:

  Lo primero es poder hacer las mismas tareas habituales que hacia en
 Windows,
 editar documentos, trabajar en hojas de cálculos, reproducir música y
 videos, ver multimedias, etc

  perfecto, te felicito, centos funciona muy bien en escritorios y es una
 distro muy conservadora lo que hará que te mantengan soporte por 7 años,
 cosa que al momento ninguna otra distro ofrece. No es bonitillo pero tienes
 soporte por largos años. Uso Centos en mi escritorio desde el 2003 si mal no
 recuerdo o 2004 y estoy feliz con él. Mucha gente lo concibe como para
 servidores (que es buenísimo en servidores!) pero como un escritorio no deja
 nada que desear sober todo por su periodo tan extendido de actualizaciones.

  Y para ello necesito saber qué aplicaciones puedo utilizar, donde
 encontrarlas, como las instalo, como se incorporan codecs para distintos
 formatos de archivos de sonido y video, con que puedo quemar mis discos.

  repositorios, si quieres mira en www.ecualug.org en la sección de COMOS
 tengo una parte llamada repositorios y encontrarás muchísimos repos de donde
 podrás instalar las aplicaciones que necesites.

  En un segundo momento tendré necesidad de correr aplicaciones Windows
 desde
 Linux, pues tengo aplicaciones desarrolladas para esa plataforma con las
 que
 deberé convivir por un tiempito.

  no eres el unico, a varios les pasa.. prueba wine pero no te garantizo qe
 100% todo te funcione

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  Con agradecimiento anticipado,


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[CentOS-es] Consulta instalacion JBoss en centos

2008-10-15 Thread Wladimir A. Jimenez B.
Hi to All.

Despues de googlear y googlear no he encontrado mucha info de como instalar
JBoss

Aqui mis consultas
existe un repositorio para instalar JDK 6?

o si alguien me indica como instalar JBoss

Les cuento es para hacer unas pruebas la verdad no manejo Jboss y lo
necesito aprender rapido.

Tengo una instalacion limpia de Centos 5.2 modo server solo consola.

Me seria de mucha utilidad cualquier tutorial mas menos actualizado o que me
indique como hacer

De antemano Gracias.


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Re: [CentOS-es] Consulta instalacion JBoss en centos

2008-10-15 Thread Juan Oliva
Hola si es cierto no hay mucha información al respecto , pero es mas simple
de los que parece, como averiguaste necesitas :

- J2SDK  : es un .bin  que se ejecuta y salmente se descomprime , y se
referencia en el sistema
- JBOSS , un tar.gz  que se ejecuta y salmente se descomprime , y se
referencia en el sistema

Aquí te paso algunos pasos ,espero que te sirva:

JAVA 1.5

DESCOMPRIMIR

sh ./jdk1.5.bin

mv jdk1.5  /opt/jdk1.5

ln -s /opt/jdk1.5/bin/java /usr/bin/java
ln -s /opt/jdk1.5/bin/javac /usr/bin/javac

PROBAR
java -version
javac


JBOSS

tar xvfz jboss-4.0.3SP1.tar.gz

vi /etc/profile

export JBOSS_HOME=/home/app/jboss-4.0.3SP1
export JAVA_HOME=/opt/jdk1.5
export CLASSPATH=/opt/jdk1.5/jdk1.5.0/lib/tools.jar


EJECUTAR JBOSS

/home/app/jboss-4.0.3SP1/bin/run.sh 



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2008/10/15 Wladimir A. Jimenez B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi to All.

 Despues de googlear y googlear no he encontrado mucha info de como instalar
 JBoss

 Aqui mis consultas
 existe un repositorio para instalar JDK 6?

 o si alguien me indica como instalar JBoss

 Les cuento es para hacer unas pruebas la verdad no manejo Jboss y lo
 necesito aprender rapido.

 Tengo una instalacion limpia de Centos 5.2 modo server solo consola.

 Me seria de mucha utilidad cualquier tutorial mas menos actualizado o que
 me indique como hacer

 De antemano Gracias.


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Re: [CentOS] Regd: SeLinux Configuration

2008-10-15 Thread Balaji

Dear All,
 Find attached the grub boot loader configuration file 
/boot/grub/grub.conf


Regards
-S.Balaji

Barry Brimer wrote:
Please post /boot/grub/grub.conf as well.  There may be an selinux or 
enforcing parameter on the kernel line that is producing unexpected 
results.



# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#  root (hd0,0)
#  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/vgroot/LogVol02
#  initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hda
default=2
timeout=5
password --md5 $1$KzqM8$cLC0UIaUN8QwVAlwDMGWl0
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES (2.6.9-34.ELhugemem)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-34.ELhugemem ro root=/dev/vgroot/LogVol02 rhgb 
quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.9-34.ELhugemem.img
title Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES (2.6.9-34.ELsmp)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-34.ELsmp ro root=/dev/vgroot/LogVol02 rhgb quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.9-34.ELsmp.img
title Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES (2.6.9-34.EL)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-34.EL ro root=/dev/vgroot/LogVol02 rhgb quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.9-34.EL.img
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] What is the best network monitoring tool?

2008-10-15 Thread José Mejía , Ayto de l'Alcora




Hello:

I'm using hobbit :

http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit
(live system)


"Hobbit monitors your hosts, your network services,
and anything else you configure it to do via extensions.
Hobbit can periodically generate requests to network services 
- http, ftp, smtp and so on - and record if the service is responding
as expected. You can also monitor local disk utilisation, logfiles and
processes through the use of agents installed on the servers."


It's not as complete as nagios but works fine

Greetings


Tim Berger escribi:

  On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
  
Hi all,

Currently I have a big question.

What is the best OPEN SOURCE solution for monitoring multiple Host and
Services, for example for using in a WebHosting Provider with 50 hosts
or more.
  
  
I've had good luck with "mon". Written in Perl and supports plug-in
monitor and alert modules. The modules are easy to write.
  
It's better than most largely advertised system monitoring/alert
packages because it is simple in design, configuration is flexible, and
it supports a large number of hosts.
  
  http://mon.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
  
  
  


Currently, I'm using NAGIOS for more than 3 years, this is a incredible
tool, but before upgrade to version 3, I have this existential question.

Please fill free to recommend any soft, but with this option in mind.
1- Easy option to personalize any plug-in
2- Good Documentation
3- Support large platforms
4- Run over Linux

Sorry for me English
Regards
Alejandro
www.linuxiso.com.ar 
from Buenos Aires, Argentina


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[CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Laurent Wandrebeck
Hi,

I'm currently using nis/nfs3/autofs in a small network (20 boxes), and
planning on using a more secure/elegant method. The thing is, which
solution to adopt ? The network is mainly composed of Centos boxes,
and a couple MS/Win ones.
ldap/kerberos/nfs4 ? Directory Server ? Anything else ?
Another point is, we have several servers with a local /data. Is there
any solution to make each /data accessible to each server without
having to maintain an awful fstab list per server ? (no way to deploy
gfs).

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Regd: SeLinux Configuration

2008-10-15 Thread Balaji

Dear All,

 I have wrongly attached RHEL grub configuration with previous mail and
 now I am attached the CentOS grub boot loader configuration file 
/boot/grub/grub.conf


Regards
-S.Balaji
Balaji wrote:


Dear All,
 Find attached the grub boot loader configuration file 
/boot/grub/grub.conf


Regards
-S.Balaji

Barry Brimer wrote:
Please post /boot/grub/grub.conf as well.  There may be an selinux 
or enforcing parameter on the kernel line that is producing 
unexpected results.




# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You do not have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg.
#  root (hd0,0)
#  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda1
#  initrd /boot/initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title CentOS-4 i386 (2.6.9-42.EL)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-42.EL ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.9-42.EL.img
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Re: [CentOS] App Question.

2008-10-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Bruce wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:21:14 -0700:

 in this case, i disagree

Frankly, it is OT.

Kai

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RE: [CentOS] Extract text from Microsoft PowerPoint files

2008-10-15 Thread John
I'm wondering if there are command tools like antiword and docx2txt for 
Microsoft PowerPoint files (.ppt and .pptx).  The idea is to extract 
text from PowerPoint files.  Sorry this isn't exactly about CentOS, but 
I'd really like it if Yum has something.  I tried xlhtml, but it hasn't 
been updated in a while and isn't exactly wanting to work on CentOS 5.

JohnStanley Writes:

If you pretty slick at Python I know for fact there is a python rtf (ritch
text format) library to extract rtf. So if you look hard enough there is
probally one on the net that someone has wrote. Google even has a RTF
Library for Python. As a side note .Net offers Office Tools to do that very
thing you want in .Net

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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Toby Bluhm

Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:

2008/10/15 Ian Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Without knowing more specifics, you could always try using the /net
automount... as in: /net/servername/data

It's ugly, and rarely used, but it works for small networks...

OK, here are some more details:
each /data is between 1 and 8 TB, network is gbps. Generally, we
process data locally for efficiency/latency (processing often touches
several tens or hundreds of GB) , but sometimes a box can be a bit
overloaded, and we want to process data on another server, using nfs
mounts. Our datacenter keeps growing, and mounting every /data on
every box is becoming ugly. I'm willing to know if there's a cleaner
solution.


Is there any way you would/could consider a centralized storage solution 
like netapp or similar? Yes, it could be costly but you *are* currently 
tossing back and forth up to 160 TB of data on discreet storage. Do you 
do backups? Do you have 20 server boxes/towers? Or are you using 
rackmount blade servers? HW raid cards? What size disks?



Sorry for all the prying questions - just that your computing situation 
intrigues me. I'd understand your reluctance to give out this info.



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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Laurent Wandrebeck
2008/10/15 Toby Bluhm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Is there any way you would/could consider a centralized storage solution
 like netapp or similar? Yes, it could be costly but you *are* currently
 tossing back and forth up to 160 TB of data on discreet storage. Do you do
 backups? Do you have 20 server boxes/towers? Or are you using rackmount
 blade servers? HW raid cards? What size disks?


 Sorry for all the prying questions - just that your computing situation
 intrigues me. I'd understand your reluctance to give out this info.
A centralized storage solution is impossible due to our (awfully) low IT budget.
Only important data is backuped (/home and a couple other things), as
we can't afford to save several TB.
3 servers are rack ones, others are towers.
A bit of history: when I get employed there, we had 400GB, 1 box per
user, 100mbps network, local user accounts...we are now at 30+TB,
twice more boxes than users... Everytime we had to work on a new
satellite, generally a new box came in and was dedicated to store and
process data of this new sat.
Everytime, it was a noname box, with classical hardware and a 3ware
card (sometimes, I even had to use software raid *sigh*). We're always
close to full capacity, and work in emergency is my daily companion
(as I'm the only IT guy, having to do lots of things others than
admin)
Disks are, depending on the box, from 200GB to 1TB, 4 up to 24 ones.
raid is mostly 5, 10 on a couple others (home server, db server)
I know the way it was deployed isn't the best, unfortunately,
struggling with low time and budget, it was difficult to do it a
different way.
I hope I answered to your questions, do not hesitate to ask if you
need more details.
Regards,
Laurent
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[CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-15 Thread Marcus Moeller
Hi all.

I have set up a DHCP server with multiple subnet configurations (let's
say subnet A and B). Within that I have declared pools and static
hosts addresses.

Now, if I have set up a static host entry (with fixed-address) in
Subnet B for a specific machine and try to connect to Subnet A with
that NIC (where it should obtain an address from the range), this does
not work unless I add a static host entry for that machine to the
Subnet A declaration, too. I even have to assign a fixed-address,
there.

I just want the NIC to clain it's address from the range on Subnet A
and to assign a fixed address on Subnet B.

Best Regards
Marcus
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Re: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Ross Walker



On Oct 14, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


I just got a new server with a Dell MD-1000 SAS unit and 6-750  
gigabyte

drives which are now initializing in RAID 10 which will give me just
about 2 terabytes.

I vaguely recall reading that fdisk wasn't suitable for partitioning  
and

wonder if I shouldn't be using partd instead. I am also wondering if I
should use lvm or just mkfs to create the filesystem. Anyone have
suggestions before I blunder in?


Just pvcreate the whole disk and forgo partitioning it. Then create a  
vg out of it and start creating lvs.


-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 06:05, Laurent Wandrebeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/10/15 Ian Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Without knowing more specifics, you could always try using the /net
 automount... as in: /net/servername/data

 It's ugly, and rarely used, but it works for small networks...

 automount could do the trick, but it's ugly, as you said :)

automount is not ugly, what is ugly is to use paths that include the
name of the server, in that if you change the server name the path of
the files will change. This is also ugly because you end up having
cross-mounts, in which machine A mounts a volume from machine B and
machine B mounts a volume from machine A, so when you want to shut
them down they may hang one waiting for the other one to come up (and
with fstab instead of automount, you have the same problem when you
boot up).

automount is actually quite a good tool if you really need to do this
kind of stuff, which in your case you will probably have to anyway.
The setup with automount is actually good in that volumes will be kept
mounted only while they're used (if you use a short enough timeout),
and in your case it seems that they will be seldomly used, so you
would not have NFS mounted filesystems most of the time.

I sure recommend you to move from NIS to LDAP, for your network size
OpenLDAP should be good enough, but you may want to look into a
Directory Server if you want something more robust (although it will
be harder to set up). When you implement LDAP, make sure you implement
it over SSL if you don't want your passwords going unencrypted over
the network, or use LDAP for user information only and Kerberos for
authentication.

NFSv3 - NFSv4 also looks good, but I would say this tends to be a
more risky upgrade, since NFS3 is quite stable and NFS4 is still
somewhat new and you may end up having some surprises with it.
Personally I will still stick with NFSv3 for a while.

HTH,
Filipe
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[CentOS] Error on man page

2008-10-15 Thread Gerhardus.Geldenhuis
Hi
I discovered a similar problem early this week and a colleage on irc was
told it was a copy and paste error.

in man syslogd, the following can be found:

  Sucker rod def. -- 3/4, 7/8 or 1in. hardened steel rod,
male threaded on each end.  Primary use in the oil industry in Western
North Dakota and other locations to pump 'suck' oil from oil wells.
Sec-
  ondary uses are for the construction of cattle feed lots
and for dealing with the occasional recalcitrant or belligerent
individual.


Regards

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RE: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Just pvcreate the whole disk and forgo partitioning it. Then create a  
vg out of it and start creating lvs.

Hey Ross,
I thought it was best practice to create an LVM partition such that the
disk could be recognizable under all circumstances such as if the volume
was moved? Is that not really best practice anymore?

jlc
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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Laurent Wandrebeck
2008/10/15 Filipe Brandenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,
snip
 automount is actually quite a good tool if you really need to do this
 kind of stuff, which in your case you will probably have to anyway.
 The setup with automount is actually good in that volumes will be kept
 mounted only while they're used (if you use a short enough timeout),
 and in your case it seems that they will be seldomly used, so you
 would not have NFS mounted filesystems most of the time.
agreed, I guess there's no other way.

snip
 NFSv3 - NFSv4 also looks good, but I would say this tends to be a
 more risky upgrade, since NFS3 is quite stable and NFS4 is still
 somewhat new and you may end up having some surprises with it.
 Personally I will still stick with NFSv3 for a while.
I'm currently reading
http://www-theorie.physik.unizh.ch/~dpotter/howto/kerberos
(ldap/kerberos/nfs4 howto), and I think I'll follow that, minus nfs4.
I've taken a quick look at Directory Server, it seems nice but a bit
overkill for the size of the network.
Thx a lot for your advice.
Laurent.
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Re: [CentOS] Error on man page

2008-10-15 Thread Rick Barnes

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi
I discovered a similar problem early this week and a colleage on irc was 
told it was a copy and paste error.


in man syslogd, the following can be found:

  Sucker rod def. -- 3/4, 7/8 or 1in. hardened steel rod, 
male threaded on each end.  Primary use in the oil industry in Western 
North Dakota and other locations to pump 'suck' oil from oil wells.   Sec-


  ondary uses are for the construction of cattle feed lots 
and for dealing with the occasional recalcitrant or belligerent individual.


Its not an error, read the previous lines:
5. Use step 4 and if the problem persists and is not secondary to a 
rogue program/daemon get a 3.5 ft (approx. 1 meter) length of sucker 
rod* and  have a chat with the user in question.


Its an attempt at a joke by the author of the man page.

Rick
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RE: [CentOS] Re: Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines

2008-10-15 Thread Sorin Srbu
Scott Silva  scribbled on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:35 PM:

 You just need to read this list to see people having hardware troubles,
 mostly with SATA and/or network, but those are pretty important to a PC.

I did have troubles with wifi, but that is kind off a specialty thing. It most 
probably was me screwing things up anyway. 8-/

Everything else has been good so far. I can also see SATA being a problem. I 
have had them myself, although not when using CentOS; mostly with Red Hat... 8-)

Your mileage may vary I guess, as always.

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[CentOS] Problems with firstboot in CentOS 5

2008-10-15 Thread Alfred von Campe
I'm trying to customize the firstboot process in CentOS 5 and have  
come across a few issues that are driving me nuts.  I'm sure they are  
all upstream issues, but I don't have a RHEL 5 system to verify  
them.  I had these customizations working in CentOS 4, but things  
that used to work then don't work now.


The main problem is that you can't validate user input.  This problem  
can be easily seen in the firstboot Create User module.  If you are  
in this screen, deliberately enter mismatched passwords.  You will  
get a warning that the passwords do not match, but when you click OK  
to dismiss the warning you are taken to the next screen.  In CentOS  
4, firstboot would stay at the current screen until all user input  
had been validated.  If you look at the underlying Python code, when  
you returned None from the apply method it would not exit the  
module in CentOS 4, but it does in CentOS 5.


I also can't get the firstboot Display module to load.  It ships with  
skipme = True, but setting it to false or removing that line  
altogether does not show the module.  It appears to me that there a  
lots of issues with firstboot in CentOS 5.  Actually, in my  
environment (~40 desktops), CentOS 5 has been far less stable than  
CentOS 4 (mostly Gnome issues with Terminal windows crashing and  
window flickering).  I've reported some of these issues before on  
this list.  My servers seem to be rock stable, though.


Anyway, for now I will have to live with these issues.  Can I report  
these issues in the Red Hat bugzilla database or do I need to be a  
RHN subscriber to report bugs against RHEL5?  I suspect (but have not  
verified) that these issues have been addressed in Fedora already.


Alfred

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[CentOS] script question

2008-10-15 Thread Jerry Geis

Hi all,

I am trying to create a script that takes an entire file,
drops the first 19 characters from each line and creates a new file.

I am missing something easy but I am not seeing it.

Jerry

---
I tried the script below but did not work.

rm  output.txt
cat test.txt | \
while read LINE
do
   newline=`echo $LINE | cut -f 19-`
   echo $newline  output.txt
done
  
test.txt is below 
10-Oct-08 08:14 am  10

10-Oct-08 08:20 am  20
10-Oct-08 08:24 am  30
10-Oct-08 08:29 am  40
10-Oct-08 08:34 am  50
10-Oct-08 08:39 am  60
10-Oct-08 08:44 am  80
10-Oct-08 08:49 am  10
10-Oct-08 08:54 am  10
10-Oct-08 08:56 am  10

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Re: [CentOS] script question

2008-10-15 Thread Pintér Tibor



I am trying to create a script that takes an entire file,
drops the first 19 characters from each line and creates a new file.

I am missing something easy but I am not seeing it.

Jerry

---
I tried the script below but did not work.

rm  output.txt
cat test.txt | \
while read LINE
do
   newline=`echo $LINE | cut -f 19-`
   echo $newline  output.txt
done
  test.txt is below 10-Oct-08 08:14 am  10


why not simply

cut -b10- foo  bar

t
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RE: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread bruce
thank you

just who decides what is the correct list of stuff to talk about on this
list...

and then maybe the rest of us should have a centos+ list, for the other 8
billion things that we might run into that we're trying to solve/share
information for..

jeeze!

oh, my bad, this is probably off topic as well!!

this sounds like catch-22!! (yeah, i'm old!, and well read!)

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Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:13:18PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 And Just to remind everyone that no, this is still not a general
 conversation about stuff list.

How off-topic is it to ask precisely what is on-topic for this list
if questions and discussions of the included components belong on the
support mechanisms for those individual parts, and the rest (ie anaconda
and friends) probably belongs in the upstream vendor's forums?

What does that leave?  The color of the logo?

(I like the blue.)

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Re: [CentOS] script question

2008-10-15 Thread Tim Nelson
Hello Jerry-

Simply change the line:

 newline=`echo $LINE | cut -f 19-`

to this:

 newline=`echo $LINE | cut -c 19-`

You want to cut based on 'c'haracters, not 'f'ields.  :-)

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- Jerry Geis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to create a script that takes an entire file,
 drops the first 19 characters from each line and creates a new file.
 
 I am missing something easy but I am not seeing it.
 
 Jerry
 
 ---
 I tried the script below but did not work.
 
 rm  output.txt
 cat test.txt | \
 while read LINE
 do
 newline=`echo $LINE | cut -f 19-`
 echo $newline  output.txt
 done

 test.txt is below 
 10-Oct-08 08:14 am  10
 10-Oct-08 08:20 am  20
 10-Oct-08 08:24 am  30
 10-Oct-08 08:29 am  40
 10-Oct-08 08:34 am  50
 10-Oct-08 08:39 am  60
 10-Oct-08 08:44 am  80
 10-Oct-08 08:49 am  10
 10-Oct-08 08:54 am  10
 10-Oct-08 08:56 am  10
  
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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Toby Bluhm

Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:
.
.

A centralized storage solution is impossible due to our (awfully) low IT budget.


I'm used to that. We need this, this, this and that. Here's a dollar.


Only important data is backuped (/home and a couple other things), as
we can't afford to save several TB.
3 servers are rack ones, others are towers.
A bit of history: when I get employed there, we had 400GB, 1 box per
user, 100mbps network, local user accounts...we are now at 30+TB,
twice more boxes than users... Everytime we had to work on a new
satellite, generally a new box came in and was dedicated to store and
process data of this new sat.
Everytime, it was a noname box, with classical hardware and a 3ware
card (sometimes, I even had to use software raid *sigh*). We're always


I rather enjoy using SW raid.


close to full capacity, and work in emergency is my daily companion
(as I'm the only IT guy, having to do lots of things others than
admin)
Disks are, depending on the box, from 200GB to 1TB, 4 up to 24 ones.
raid is mostly 5, 10 on a couple others (home server, db server)
I know the way it was deployed isn't the best, unfortunately,
struggling with low time and budget, it was difficult to do it a
different way.



Kinda what I figured - a conglomeration of stuff. Sounds like a 
situation I'd find myself in. Actually, I kinda like it.


Anyway, how about collapsing your storage down to a few roll-your-own 
NFS servers? Perhaps the smaller boxes could easily be moved to one 
server, the heavy hitters left as is  the medium boxes folded into 2-3 
servers.


That said, NFS server performance on generic hardware  Linux always 
seems to be somewhat of an issue. While I'm not a huge fan of Sun, a few 
OpenSolaris boxes with ZFS could be quite nifty.



With the only resources being myself  (relatively) inexpensive generic 
HW, that would be my approach.




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Re: [CentOS] script question

2008-10-15 Thread Bo Lynch
On Wed, October 15, 2008 10:48 am, Jerry Geis wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am trying to create a script that takes an entire file,
 drops the first 19 characters from each line and creates a new file.

 I am missing something easy but I am not seeing it.

 Jerry

 ---
 I tried the script below but did not work.

 rm  output.txt
 cat test.txt | \
 while read LINE
 do
 newline=`echo $LINE | cut -f 19-`
 echo $newline  output.txt
 done

 test.txt is below
 10-Oct-08 08:14 am  10
 10-Oct-08 08:20 am  20
 10-Oct-08 08:24 am  30
 10-Oct-08 08:29 am  40
 10-Oct-08 08:34 am  50
 10-Oct-08 08:39 am  60
 10-Oct-08 08:44 am  80
 10-Oct-08 08:49 am  10
 10-Oct-08 08:54 am  10
 10-Oct-08 08:56 am  10

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Instead of using cut -f use cut -c19-


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Re: [CentOS] script question

2008-10-15 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:48, Jerry Geis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to create a script that takes an entire file,
 drops the first 19 characters from each line and creates a new file.
   newline=`echo $LINE | cut -f 19-`

What you want is cut -c 19- (-c as in characters) and not cut -f
19- (-f as in fields).

   echo $newline  output.txt

This will also remove the spacing. You should at least use echo
$newline output.txt, but in any case it's silly as you can just:

cut -c 19- test.txt output.txt

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] script question

2008-10-15 Thread Les Mikesell

Filipe Brandenburger wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:48, Jerry Geis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to create a script that takes an entire file,
drops the first 19 characters from each line and creates a new file.
  newline=`echo $LINE | cut -f 19-`


What you want is cut -c 19- (-c as in characters) and not cut -f
19- (-f as in fields).


  echo $newline  output.txt


This will also remove the spacing. You should at least use echo
$newline output.txt, but in any case it's silly as you can just:

cut -c 19- test.txt output.txt


Or sed -e 's/^...//' text.txt output.txt
which might be a nicer starting point if you want to make other changes 
although it won't change a line with less than 19 characters.  If you'd 
want that, 's/^.\{1,19\}//' should do it.


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Re: [CentOS] Problem building Perl net-snmp

2008-10-15 Thread nate
Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:

 '/users/newt2/mgarcia/Downloads/Nagios-3.0.3/net-snmp-5.4.2/perl/SNMP/../blib/arch/auto/NetSNMP/default_store/default_store.so'
 for module NetSNMP::default_store: libnetsnmp.so.15: cannot open shared
 object file: No such file or directory at

You don't have the snmp library installed that the program is
looking for. I don't see libnetsnmp.so.15 on either of my CentOS 4.6
or CentOS 5.1 systems so it seems like you may of installed net-snmp
from source..in which case you need to point the program at the location
of your net-snmp installation so it can find the library.

rpm -qa | grep -i net-snmp

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Re: [CentOS] script question

2008-10-15 Thread nate
Jerry Geis wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am trying to create a script that takes an entire file,
 drops the first 19 characters from each line and creates a new file.
[..]
 test.txt is below
 10-Oct-08 08:14 am  10

If this is the format of your data you could use awk to do the same
thing

cat filename | awk '{print $4}'

nate

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix problem

2008-10-15 Thread Brian

On Wed, October 15, 2008 6:34 am, Paolo Supino wrote:
 Hi

I have a CentOS 4.2 server with postfix. The problem I'm having is
 that postfix insists on using $myhostname in the from field even if I
 instruct it to use $mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf or even if I hard
 code the domain name into $myorigin. What am I missing?


 BTW: postconf shows output shows that $myorigin is configured to use
 $mydomain,  or the domain name itself ...




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Could you post output of # postconf -n

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Re: [CentOS] mysql 5 for centos 5.2

2008-10-15 Thread Mark Quitoriano
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:29 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Quitoriano wrote:

 What do you recommend me to do so i can optimize my database on a
 multi-core processor? and i haven't got an answer for the mysql
 package for centos 5 is the multi-threading supported?


 each connection to mysql spawns a thread, however under various conditions
 the threads can block each other, including if they are stacking up on table
 locks to update the same table.

 otherwise, yes, mysql is fully multithreaded, as long as you're making
 multiple queries concurrently via different connections

oh ok got it. But as i can see that with my database server it only
eats up 1 core of my core2quad processor. how can i optimize mysql to
use all 4 core of my processor?


thanks again for the answers
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Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Guest
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:12 AM, John Newbigin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Until CentOS 4.7, parted would create DOS partitions  2Tb.

 DOS partitions can not be  2Tb. This could ...corrupt partition tables and
 ruin filesystem.

 The latest version from CentOS 4.7 fixes this (and other) bugs.

 John.

 Sergio Belkin wrote:

 Hi, I've read on LPI Linux Certification (Ed O'Reilly)  in a nutshell
 the following thing:

 parted, unfortunately, has been known to corrupt partition tables and
 ruin filesystem.

 What do you think about it?

 Greets!

This is awfully presumptuous of a list newcomer like me, but this
reply pretty clearly shows that the list monitor who intervened to
criticize the OP was overreacting.  There's always a way to make a
good, on-topic thread out of a fair question.

It's your guys' list, but if you habitually err on the side of
rejecting interested newcomers, you'll eventually run out of
newcomers.  Go look at how the FreeBSD'ers have run their lists over
the past 20 years - each question is an opportunity for the old-timers
to share something they've learned - which naturally generates
interest and enthusiasm - and newcomers are taken by the hand rather
than shown the door.  Be generous in what you accept, conservative in
what you send - right?

Anyway, I'm out of line, so I apologize - but here's another vote for
list inclusiveness.  It's not like the dude was asking about football.
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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Ian Forde
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:52 +0200, Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm currently using nis/nfs3/autofs in a small network (20 boxes), and
 planning on using a more secure/elegant method. The thing is, which
 solution to adopt ? The network is mainly composed of Centos boxes,
 and a couple MS/Win ones.
 ldap/kerberos/nfs4 ? Directory Server ? Anything else ?
 Another point is, we have several servers with a local /data. Is there
 any solution to make each /data accessible to each server without
 having to maintain an awful fstab list per server ? (no way to deploy
 gfs).

Without knowing more specifics, you could always try using the /net
automount... as in: /net/servername/data

It's ugly, and rarely used, but it works for small networks...

-I

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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Laurent Wandrebeck
2008/10/15 Ian Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Without knowing more specifics, you could always try using the /net
 automount... as in: /net/servername/data

 It's ugly, and rarely used, but it works for small networks...
OK, here are some more details:
each /data is between 1 and 8 TB, network is gbps. Generally, we
process data locally for efficiency/latency (processing often touches
several tens or hundreds of GB) , but sometimes a box can be a bit
overloaded, and we want to process data on another server, using nfs
mounts. Our datacenter keeps growing, and mounting every /data on
every box is becoming ugly. I'm willing to know if there's a cleaner
solution.
automount could do the trick, but it's ugly, as you said :)
Thanks,
Laurent
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[CentOS] Problem building Perl net-snmp

2008-10-15 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia

Hi

I'm trying to build the perl modules of net-snmp-5.4.2. Everything seems 
to work fine until make test[1]. The problem with DynaLoader.pm 
seems to be an old one.


The machine is Centos 5.2 i386

I'm trying to build instead of using the one available in the repos 
because I'll build in other platforms and also in nagios-plugins.


Thanks

Marcelo




[1]

 Failed 17/17 tests, 0.00% okay
t/getnext.Can't load 
'/users/newt2/mgarcia/Downloads/Nagios-3.0.3/net-snmp-5.4.2/perl/SNMP/../blib/arch/auto/NetSNMP/default_store/default_store.so' 
for module NetSNMP::default_store: libnetsnmp.so.15: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory at 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm line 230.
 at 
/users/newt2/mgarcia/Downloads/Nagios-3.0.3/net-snmp-5.4.2/perl/SNMP/../blib/lib/SNMP.pm 
line 16
Compilation failed in require at 
/users/newt2/mgarcia/Downloads/Nagios-3.0.3/net-snmp-5.4.2/perl/SNMP/../blib/lib/SNMP.pm 
line 16.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/users/newt2/mgarcia/Downloads/Nagios-3.0.3/net-snmp-5.4.2/perl/SNMP/../blib/lib/SNMP.pm 
line 16.

Compilation failed in require at t/getnext.t line 15.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/getnext.t line 15.
t/getnext.dubious 


Test returned status 2 (wstat 512, 0x200)
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Re: [CentOS] New CentOS 4 Kernels cannot be seen by yum

2008-10-15 Thread William L. Maltby

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 04:04 -0700, Spike Turner wrote:
 William L. Maltby  wrote:
 
  Since CentOS has not announced them yet, I would guess that
  is the case.
  There would also be a small delay while the mirrors get
  synchronized.
  
 
 This appears to be the upstream details on the kernel 
 http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0859.html
 
 Even after a week the kernel update has not been announced 
 yet by CentOS? 
 
 With posts like these 
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16691forum=27
 about a buggy kernel one would expect the newest kernel to be eagerly awaited.

The key word is awaited. I suspect the real life has intervened to
slow the completion steps need to release these updates. Sans security
issues, real life could be expected to have priority. However, not being
a team member, I'm only speculating here.

 
 Spike
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Re: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:47 -0400, Ross Walker wrote:
 
 On Oct 14, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 
  I just got a new server with a Dell MD-1000 SAS unit and 6-750  
  gigabyte
  drives which are now initializing in RAID 10 which will give me just
  about 2 terabytes.
 
  I vaguely recall reading that fdisk wasn't suitable for partitioning  
  and
  wonder if I shouldn't be using partd instead. I am also wondering if I
  should use lvm or just mkfs to create the filesystem. Anyone have
  suggestions before I blunder in?
 
 Just pvcreate the whole disk and forgo partitioning it. Then create a  
 vg out of it and start creating lvs.

OK - makes sense but I am a bit confused here.

I have done the pgcreate and tested lvcreate but wonder about
'setphysicalextentsize' because in the man page, it states, The default
of 4 MB leads to a maximum logical volume size of around 256GB which
makes me think that if I want one volume when this is all done, I have
to increase that value.

# fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 2248.8 GB, 2248818032640 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 273403 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table

So thinking that I would need a volume just under 10 times the maximum
of 256GB, I would have to set the physicalextentsize to 64 MB (32 not
being quite large enough and thus 64 being the next increment in power
of 2)

Does this make sense?

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] mysql 5 for centos 5.2

2008-10-15 Thread John R Pierce

Mark Quitoriano wrote:

oh ok got it. But as i can see that with my database server it only
eats up 1 core of my core2quad processor. how can i optimize mysql to
use all 4 core of my processor?
  


you said you had 50-100 simultaneous connections to mysql?   these are 
presumably issuing various queries at overlapping times?  I find it 
pretty hard to believe its only using one processor unless all these 
queries are updates to the same table, using full table locking (myISAM 
for instance)



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[CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-15 Thread sbeam
does anyone else have major probs with Firefox as installed on CentOS5?

ever since the RPM for FF3 came out it has been crashing daily. Usually when I 
use Save As... or Browse... or anything else that brings up the Gnome file 
picker. After the crash I re-start then the file picker works for a while. 

Sometimes it just takes scrolling or click+drag an image or some other random 
action. BANG your'e dead. Very frustrating.

Now today it is just crashing randomly, I am not even touching it. Maybe one 
of my plugins, I know. I guess I will run it with debugger/strace. but does 
anyone else see this?

$ rpm -qa firefox
firefox-3.0.2-3.el5.centos
$ cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 5.2 (Final)
$ rpm -qa kdebase
kdebase-3.5.4-18.el5.centos

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Re: [CentOS] New CentOS 4 Kernels cannot be seen by yum

2008-10-15 Thread Spike Turner
William L. Maltby  wrote:

 Since CentOS has not announced them yet, I would guess that
 is the case.
 There would also be a small delay while the mirrors get
 synchronized.
 

This appears to be the upstream details on the kernel 
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0859.html

Even after a week the kernel update has not been announced 
yet by CentOS? 

With posts like these 
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16691forum=27
about a buggy kernel one would expect the newest kernel to be eagerly awaited.

Spike


  

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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-15 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote:


Hi all.

I have set up a DHCP server with multiple subnet configurations 
(let's say subnet A and B). Within that I have declared pools and 
static hosts addresses.


Now, if I have set up a static host entry (with fixed-address) in 
Subnet B for a specific machine and try to connect to Subnet A with 
that NIC (where it should obtain an address from the range), this 
does not work unless I add a static host entry for that machine to 
the Subnet A declaration, too. I even have to assign a 
fixed-address, there.


I just want the NIC to clain it's address from the range on Subnet A 
and to assign a fixed address on Subnet B.


You can assign multiple host blocks for the same NIC, using a 
fixed-address directive in one but not in other. dhcpd will try for 
the best match. If the request arrives from subnet-B, and the fixed 
address is on that net, then that's the block that gets used. 
Otherwise, the less specific block will be used. E.g.,


  host myhost {
hardware ethernet 11:22:33:44:55:66;
fixed-address myhost.mydom.com;
  }
  host myhost-roam {
hardware ethernet 11:22:33:44:55:66;
  }

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[CentOS] Postfix problem

2008-10-15 Thread Paolo Supino

Hi

  I have a CentOS 4.2 server with postfix. The problem I'm having is  
that postfix insists on using $myhostname in the from field even if I  
instruct it to use $mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf or even if I hard  
code the domain name into $myorigin. What am I missing?



BTW: postconf shows output shows that $myorigin is configured to use  
$mydomain,  or the domain name itself ...





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[CentOS] Re: OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-15-2008 7:54 AM bruce spake the following:
 thank you
 
 just who decides what is the correct list of stuff to talk about on this
 list...
 
Usually if you get spanked by one of the people who also have their names on
the CentOS team members list it is time to stop.

Any one else is just fair game!  ;-P




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Re: [CentOS] Postfix problem

2008-10-15 Thread John Plemons
Try installing WebMin and configure Postfix using their interface and 
see if that works for you...  It is menu driven and a quick and easy way 
to configure your server...


john





Paolo Supino wrote:

Hi

  I have a CentOS 4.2 server with postfix. The problem I'm having is 
that postfix insists on using $myhostname in the from field even if I 
instruct it to use $mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf or even if I hard 
code the domain name into $myorigin. What am I missing?



BTW: postconf shows output shows that $myorigin is configured to use 
$mydomain,  or the domain name itself ...





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Re: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:52:03AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
 I have done the pgcreate and tested lvcreate but wonder about
 'setphysicalextentsize' because in the man page, it states, The default
 of 4 MB leads to a maximum logical volume size of around 256GB which
 makes me think that if I want one volume when this is all done, I have
 to increase that value.

The man page for vgcreate says there is a limit of 65534  extents in
each logical volume but only for *lvm1* format.  lvm2 format doesn't
have such restrictions.

I used default values for my 4Tbyte array (5*1Tbyte disk in a md raid5)
under CentOS 4.

% fdisk -l /dev/md3

Disk /dev/md3: 4000.8 GB, 4000808697856 bytes
2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 976759936 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8 * 512 = 4096 bytes


% pvdisplay /dev/md3
  --- Physical volume ---
  PV Name   /dev/md3
  VG Name   Raid5
  PV Size   3.64 TB / not usable 320.00 KB
  Allocatable   yes (but full)
  PE Size (KByte)   4096
  Total PE  953867
  Free PE   0
  Allocated PE  953867
  PV UUID   NngvXK-4tqJ-xNtG-UnDL-Rin0-RHIl-xZ2wzI

% vgdisplay Raid5
  --- Volume group ---
  VG Name   Raid5
  System ID
  Formatlvm2
  Metadata Areas1
  Metadata Sequence No  4
  VG Access read/write
  VG Status resizable
  MAX LV0
  Cur LV1
  Open LV   1
  Max PV0
  Cur PV1
  Act PV1
  VG Size   3.64 TB
  PE Size   4.00 MB
  Total PE  953867
  Alloc PE / Size   953867 / 3.64 TB
  Free  PE / Size   0 / 0
  VG UUID   mKSI0h-26i7-5LK5-vwpX-GY3a-Bjiv-xX4q8n

% lvdisplay Raid5/Media
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/Raid5/Media
  VG NameRaid5
  LV UUIDc8x4Ip-R1wq-n9An-NM6B-IuBs-U61L-kfVgAU
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size3.64 TB
  Current LE 953867
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors auto
  - currently set to 256
  Block device   253:5


 Does this make sense?

Try using pvcreate, vgcreate and lvcreate with no special options
and see what happens.  It worked for me!

The default in CentOS should be lvm2; you can see that's what was
created on mine by the Format line in the vgdisplay output.

  Formatlvm2

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Re: [CentOS] Sendmail rbl - Need to bypass rbl for one local address

2008-10-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Linux Guru wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:45 -0700 (PDT):

 Hope any one can help me. I am running centos 5.2 with sendmail and
 rbl feature.  I need to recieve all emails come to my sales account
 regardless of rbl .

You want to use the spam:friend feature, have a look at the sendmail 
documentation. Requires a recompile of your sendmail.cf.

 I looked on web and gave up. All I found was if I added To:sales@
 ok in my sendmail.mc ,

No, in your access file. But that doesn't work reliably. Maybe if you put 
it on top.

I would consider a different nick if I were you.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] Regd: SeLinux Configuration

2008-10-15 Thread Barry Brimer



On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Balaji wrote:


Dear All,
Find attached the grub boot loader configuration file /boot/grub/grub.conf

Regards
-S.Balaji

Barry Brimer wrote:
Please post /boot/grub/grub.conf as well.  There may be an selinux or 
enforcing parameter on the kernel line that is producing unexpected 
results.


I don't see anything in your grub.conf that alters how SELinux is handled.
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Re: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-15 Thread sbeam
On Wednesday 15 October 2008 13:27, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
  ever since the RPM for FF3 came out it has been crashing daily. Usually
  when I use Save As... or Browse... or anything else that brings up the
  Gnome file picker. After the crash I re-start then the file picker works
  for a while.

should have mentioned that neither crashreporter nor talkback were coming up. 
Once in a while I get Gnome Bug-Buddy which fails to do anything useful. 
Seems like someone at RH tinkered with mozilla's crash handling


 Not for me. I have had 1 crash in 2 weeks. I would look at doing
 dealing with the usual suspects:

 1) Remove any extra plugins you added.
 2) mv .mozilla .mozilla-bad-$(date -Im) and start over.

 If the problem does not go away then it is some other item that is
 causing the issue.

Well I need my plugins to get work done so I installed the binary from 
mozilla.org in /opt/ and symlinked to that, seems to be better so far. This 
is what I used to do to get the latest version anyway, so if it works will 
just stay this way. If not I'll get on bugzilla and pursue that.

thanks

Sam

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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-15 Thread John
 I just want the NIC to clain it's address from the range on Subnet A 
 and to assign a fixed address on Subnet B.

JohnStanley Writes:
In reading your post a couple more times, I think I see what you are after.
Elaborate a little more on what you want exactly.
You want the NIC to get an addy from the dhcpd server from the Subnet A
address pool and then want to also obtain an addy from the Subnet B Fixed
addy pool so the clients nics has two Ips? Correct?
This I am not sure can be done with dhcpd. However you can specify NIC to
fixed static addys and the nic harware address in the dhcp.conf file. 

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix problem

2008-10-15 Thread mouss
Paolo Supino a écrit :
 Hi
 
   I have a CentOS 4.2 server with postfix. The problem I'm having is
 that postfix insists on using $myhostname in the from field even if I

Prove that it is postfix that does so, and not Sendmail. show logs.

 instruct it to use $mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf or even if I hard
 code the domain name into $myorigin. What am I missing?
 
 
 BTW: postconf shows output shows that $myorigin is configured to use
 $mydomain,  or the domain name itself ...
 


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Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Karanbir Singh

David Mackintosh wrote:

How off-topic is it to ask precisely what is on-topic for this list
if questions and discussions of the included components belong on the
support mechanisms for those individual parts, and the rest (ie anaconda
and friends) probably belongs in the upstream vendor's forums?


A bit of common sense comes in handy. Talking about something that the 
developers of a component need to weight in on is definitely best suited 
to the upstream lists for the component. If you hit specific issues with 
the implementation on CentOS, thats different.


Random drive by surveys, and request for comments on a blog posts etc 
are definitely a waste of time for *this* list.


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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-15 Thread John

I just want the NIC to clain it's address from the range on Subnet A
and to assign a fixed address on Subnet B.

JohnStanley Writes:

You can assign in your dhcp.con file for your hosts to obtain an ip based
upon the host MAC Address or Host Name. Try That.. 

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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread Ross Walker


On Oct 15, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Filipe Brandenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:



Hi,

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 06:05, Laurent Wandrebeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2008/10/15 Ian Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Without knowing more specifics, you could always try using the /net
automount... as in: /net/servername/data

It's ugly, and rarely used, but it works for small networks...


automount could do the trick, but it's ugly, as you said :)


automount is not ugly, what is ugly is to use paths that include the
name of the server, in that if you change the server name the path of
the files will change. This is also ugly because you end up having
cross-mounts, in which machine A mounts a volume from machine B and
machine B mounts a volume from machine A, so when you want to shut
them down they may hang one waiting for the other one to come up (and
with fstab instead of automount, you have the same problem when you
boot up).


Try to write your own auto mount maps that mount to descriptive mount  
points rather than server names:


/archive/00, /archive/01...



automount is actually quite a good tool if you really need to do this
kind of stuff, which in your case you will probably have to anyway.
The setup with automount is actually good in that volumes will be kept
mounted only while they're used (if you use a short enough timeout),
and in your case it seems that they will be seldomly used, so you
would not have NFS mounted filesystems most of the time.

I sure recommend you to move from NIS to LDAP, for your network size
OpenLDAP should be good enough, but you may want to look into a
Directory Server if you want something more robust (although it will
be harder to set up). When you implement LDAP, make sure you implement
it over SSL if you don't want your passwords going unencrypted over
the network, or use LDAP for user information only and Kerberos for
authentication.


If all your doing is serving up mount maps or netgroups then ldap is  
over kill, definitely don't put passwords in nis (or ldap) use  
kerberos for those.


A small user base can be handled more easily via nis then ldap you  
don't need to put passwords in passwd use kerberos for those.




NFSv3 - NFSv4 also looks good, but I would say this tends to be a
more risky upgrade, since NFS3 is quite stable and NFS4 is still
somewhat new and you may end up having some surprises with it.
Personally I will still stick with NFSv3 for a while.


For best interoperability use v3.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-15 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:55 AM, sbeam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 does anyone else have major probs with Firefox as installed on CentOS5?

 ever since the RPM for FF3 came out it has been crashing daily. Usually when I
 use Save As... or Browse... or anything else that brings up the Gnome file
 picker. After the crash I re-start then the file picker works for a while.

Not for me. I have had 1 crash in 2 weeks. I would look at doing
dealing with the usual suspects:

1) Remove any extra plugins you added.
2) mv .mozilla .mozilla-bad-$(date -Im) and start over.

If the problem does not go away then it is some other item that is
causing the issue.

 Sometimes it just takes scrolling or click+drag an image or some other random
 action. BANG your'e dead. Very frustrating.

 Now today it is just crashing randomly, I am not even touching it. Maybe one
 of my plugins, I know. I guess I will run it with debugger/strace. but does
 anyone else see this?

 $ rpm -qa firefox
 firefox-3.0.2-3.el5.centos
 $ cat /etc/redhat-release
 CentOS release 5.2 (Final)
 $ rpm -qa kdebase
 kdebase-3.5.4-18.el5.centos

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Re: [CentOS] App Question.

2008-10-15 Thread Les Mikesell

bruce wrote:

Hi list!!

Got a question, and I can't find a good answer for, so I figured i'd post
here. I'm working on a project that involves a number of smaller apps to be
developed, and run. In order to build this overall application, I'm trying
to find a web based app that I can use to manage the entire process.

I need to be able to create the basic app, and then to test the app, and
then to run the app in a production environment. I need to be able to
schedule when the app is tested/run in the production system, as well as be
able to track the status of the test/production app. My overall system will
have 100's of these smaller child apps.

Has anyone heard of, or have any pointers to any kind of webbased app that I
can use (open source) to manage this entire kind of process. I would prefer
a web based app, that runs on a LAMP platform to manage this overall
process


It is sort of java-oriented, but cruisecrontrol manages that sort of 
thing: http://cruisecontrol.sourceforge.net/index.html.


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Re: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 13:34 -0400, Stephen Harris wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:52:03AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
  I have done the pgcreate and tested lvcreate but wonder about
  'setphysicalextentsize' because in the man page, it states, The default
  of 4 MB leads to a maximum logical volume size of around 256GB which
  makes me think that if I want one volume when this is all done, I have
  to increase that value.
 
 The man page for vgcreate says there is a limit of 65534  extents in
 each logical volume but only for *lvm1* format.  lvm2 format doesn't
 have such restrictions.
 
 I used default values for my 4Tbyte array (5*1Tbyte disk in a md raid5)
 under CentOS 4.
 
SNIP...
 
 Try using pvcreate, vgcreate and lvcreate with no special options
 and see what happens.  It worked for me!
 
 The default in CentOS should be lvm2; you can see that's what was
 created on mine by the Format line in the vgdisplay output.
 
   Formatlvm2

OK - well, I can delete the vg and the lv that I created and just
consider them as practice. I'm not really sure what the difference would
be having the physical extent size as 64 MB versions 4 MB.

I did run into a snag that I don't fully understand while trying to make
the filesystem though...

# mke2fs -v -j -l 2TbVol /dev/VolGroup10/2TbVol
mke2fs 1.39 (29-May-2006)
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=4096 (log=2)
Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
274513920 inodes, 549011456 blocks
27450572 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=0
Maximum filesystem blocks=0
16755 block groups
32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
16384 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632,
2654208,
4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 2048, 23887872, 71663616,
78675968,
10240, 214990848, 51200

read_bad_blocks_file: No such file or directory while trying to open
2TbVol

Obviously there is no physical disk to read a bad blocks file from and I
don't see in the man page for mke2fs any way to tell it to ignore bad
blocks or not search for the file.

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] App Question.

2008-10-15 Thread Tru Huynh
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 04:21:14PM -0700, bruce wrote:
 Karanbir
 
 in this case, i disagree. we're looking for a tool, that may very well exist
snip
well you could start by 
1) not top posting
2) trim your replies
3) stay on topic or be smart enough to put a relevant off topic subject.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mass installs of desktop systems on identical machines

2008-10-15 Thread Ian Forde
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 07:36 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Thanks very much everybody for your numerous comments. I guess I got 
 much more than I expected.

One more suggestion... try SystemImager...

-I

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Re: [CentOS] yum priorities question

2008-10-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mufit Eribol wrote on Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:32:34 +0300:

 Checked that, already enabled.

I meant: is that *repo* enabled? But it seems the problem was different, 
anyway. obsoletes strikes again.

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RE: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I'm not really sure what the difference would
be having the physical extent size as 64 MB versions 4 MB.

It's the smallest allocatable size of any PV you can give to an LV.
Think of it like Allocation Unit Size. Also as pointed out above some
limitations arise in different versions of LVM. RH defaults to 32M I
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Re: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:13:08AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
 I did run into a snag that I don't fully understand while trying to make
 the filesystem though...
 
 # mke2fs -v -j -l 2TbVol /dev/VolGroup10/2TbVol

Were you trying to specify a label?  If so, use the -L option, not -l

Were you trying to specify a bad block list?  Why?  I'd be VERY surprised
if you need to do this.

So you either meant
  mke2fs -v -j /dev/VolGroup10/2TbVol
OR
  mke2fs -v -j -L 2TbVol /dev/VolGroup10/2TbVol

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Re: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 14:34 -0400, Stephen Harris wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:13:08AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
  I did run into a snag that I don't fully understand while trying to make
  the filesystem though...
  
  # mke2fs -v -j -l 2TbVol /dev/VolGroup10/2TbVol
 
 Were you trying to specify a label?  If so, use the -L option, not -l
 
 Were you trying to specify a bad block list?  Why?  I'd be VERY surprised
 if you need to do this.
 
 So you either meant
   mke2fs -v -j /dev/VolGroup10/2TbVol
 OR
   mke2fs -v -j -L 2TbVol /dev/VolGroup10/2TbVol

duh...thanks  :::blush:::

too many man pages  ;-)

Thanks

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] firefox is incredibly unstable

2008-10-15 Thread MHR
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:39 AM, sbeam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I need my plugins to get work done so I installed the binary from
 mozilla.org in /opt/ and symlinked to that, seems to be better so far. This
 is what I used to do to get the latest version anyway, so if it works will
 just stay this way. If not I'll get on bugzilla and pursue that.


Now that's interesting.

I've been having the same problem with Seamonkey (the integrated
Mozilla suite), and I have less trouble in general when I build my own
and install it in /opt.  (The AR and SWF plugins don't work there, for
some reason, but all the others do.)  It never occurred to me that the
installation location would be involved - I'll have to try that and
see how it works.

Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] Seeking advice about auth/home serving

2008-10-15 Thread MHR
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Ross Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If all your doing is serving up mount maps or netgroups then ldap is over
 kill, definitely don't put passwords in nis (or ldap) use kerberos for
 those.

 A small user base can be handled more easily via nis then ldap you don't
 need to put passwords in passwd use kerberos for those.


Maybe it's just me, but I find sentences like the above two to be
terribly confusing since they lack any punctuation to separate the
separables.  Since I am just learning about this area, I need all the
clarity I can get.  Perhaps others are in a similar situation, so,
please use punctuation of some kind - separate lines, commas,
semicolons, etc.

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-15 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Paul.

 You can assign multiple host blocks for the same NIC, using a fixed-address
 directive in one but not in other. dhcpd will try for the best match. If the
 request arrives from subnet-B, and the fixed address is on that net, then
 that's the block that gets used. Otherwise, the less specific block will be
 used. E.g.,

  host myhost {
hardware ethernet 11:22:33:44:55:66;
fixed-address 172.16.1.1;
^^ modified
  }
  host myhost-roam {
hardware ethernet 11:22:33:44:55:66;
  }

Hmm, that does not really work on two different subnets. I have tried
to add a host declaration with fixed-address on the 'static' Subnet B
and one on the dynamic Subnet A with just the MAC address and
ddns-domain-name.

The client won't obtain an IP address on subnet A unless I add a
fixed-address declaration to it, too.

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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-15 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear John,

 In reading your post a couple more times, I think I see what you are after.
 Elaborate a little more on what you want exactly.
 You want the NIC to get an addy from the dhcpd server from the Subnet A
 address pool and then want to also obtain an addy from the Subnet B Fixed
 addy pool so the clients nics has two Ips? Correct?

The client can just connect to two networks handled by the DHCP server
(on different NICs of course ;))

On Subnet A it should receive a dynamic address within the range and
on Subnet be it should just obtain the address defined in it's host
declaration.

 This I am not sure can be done with dhcpd. However you can specify NIC to
 fixed static addys and the nic harware address in the dhcp.conf file.

How does that work?

Best Regards
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Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Bob Taylor

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:06 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 A bit of common sense comes in handy. Talking about something that the 
 developers of a component need to weight in on is definitely best suited 
 to the upstream lists for the component. If you hit specific issues with 
 the implementation on CentOS, thats different.

Hm. CentOS is a renamed, compiled from source, of the Red Hat sources
with a CentOS logo inserted at appropriate places plus, perhaps other
changes as required. Having said that and your comment above seems to
leave *very* little to discuss on this list. Since *any* Linux based
distribution includes hundreds of packages, it is my very humble opinion
that this list is the starting place for, especially the very new people
or those with little time to *really* learn the administration of an
operating system such as CentOS. I would would expect the maintainers of
this list to understand this.

I have been running Red Hat since I purchased Linux Unleashed, First
Edition, Copyright 1995 with one CD that contained three complete
distributions with sources. Look at the expansion of the base
distribution now. Personally, I'm *way* behind!

 Random drive by surveys, and request for comments on a blog posts etc 
 are definitely a waste of time for *this* list.

Of course this crap should *not* be tolerated, including spam.
Enough soap box from me.

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Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Sergio Belkin
2008/10/15 Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 David Mackintosh wrote:

 How off-topic is it to ask precisely what is on-topic for this list
 if questions and discussions of the included components belong on the
 support mechanisms for those individual parts, and the rest (ie anaconda
 and friends) probably belongs in the upstream vendor's forums?

 A bit of common sense comes in handy. Talking about something that the
 developers of a component need to weight in on is definitely best suited to
 the upstream lists for the component. If you hit specific issues with the
 implementation on CentOS, thats different.

 Random drive by surveys, and request for comments on a blog posts etc are
 definitely a waste of time for *this* list.

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Karanbir, OK, you're right, although I'd be more flexible, the subject
was prefixed with an OT:. I didn't ask what do you prefer to be
president of USA if Obama or McCain, neither I was offering a way of
improving sexual power :)

But again, if you put the rules in that way, ok you're right. Sorry
for annoyances.


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RE: [CentOS] formatting large volume

2008-10-15 Thread Miskell, Craig

 Just pvcreate the whole disk and forgo partitioning it. Then create a
 vg out of it and start creating lvs.

 Hey Ross,
 I thought it was best practice to create an LVM partition
 such that the
 disk could be recognizable under all circumstances such as if
 the volume
 was moved? Is that not really best practice anymore?

I'm not Ross, but I'll chime in:  I heartily recommend creating an LVM 
partition rather than using the entire disk.  It will cover you for those times 
when you are booting off the Rescue or Install CD.  When anaconda(?) sees an 
LVM formatted disk, it thinks it's garbage because there's no valid partition 
table.  It then asks you if you want to format the disk (or words to that 
effect; I forget the precise details), with the default set to YES (WTH?  
Default option is the most dangerous?  That's nutty).

From experience I can tell you that selecting Yes is really really bad for 
your LVM meta data.  Let's just say it took a while to restore the 1TB of data 
the time I miss-clicked YES from a finger twitch at the wrong moment while 
moving the mouse.

Sigh

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[CentOS] unsuscribe

2008-10-15 Thread Miguel Varas A.
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Re: [CentOS] unsuscribe

2008-10-15 Thread Spook ZA
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Re: [CentOS] unsuscribe

2008-10-15 Thread MHR
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Spook ZA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Miguel Varas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please I want unsuscribe for this list
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 Please (and this goes for most if not all mailing lists) view all
 headers associated with any mail to the list and you will find the
 following.


Or pay attention when you sign up for a listmanager list like this and
RTFSUP - all the information to unsubscribe is right there, not to
mention in the page at the other end of the link in the footer of
every expletives-deleted message posted to the list.

I moderate over 300 Yahoo groups and belong to a (way smaller) number
of email lists, and I've never seen one where the instructions for how
to unsubscribe were not included somewhere in every post or article
sent, and yet I've also witnessed the utterly amazing ability of
people who read the groups/lists not to be able to read the
unsubscribe instructions or links in the messages they read.

Foo.

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix problem

2008-10-15 Thread Paolo Supino
John Plemons wrote:
 Try installing WebMin and configure Postfix using their interface and
 see if that works for you...  It is menu driven and a quick and easy way
 to configure your server...
 
 john
 
 
 
 
 
 Paolo Supino wrote:
 Hi

   I have a CentOS 4.2 server with postfix. The problem I'm having is
 that postfix insists on using $myhostname in the from field even if I
 instruct it to use $mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf or even if I hard
 code the domain name into $myorigin. What am I missing?


 BTW: postconf shows output shows that $myorigin is configured to use
 $mydomain,  or the domain name itself ...




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  Webmin is installed and the changes were initially carried out through
webmin, but after I noticed that there is no change in the from field I
checked to see if webmin changes the right file (it did) and also tried
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Re: [CentOS] Postfix problem

2008-10-15 Thread Paolo Supino
mouss wrote:
 Paolo Supino a écrit :
 Hi

   I have a CentOS 4.2 server with postfix. The problem I'm having is
 that postfix insists on using $myhostname in the from field even if I
 
 Prove that it is postfix that does so, and not Sendmail. show logs.
 
 instruct it to use $mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf or even if I hard
 code the domain name into $myorigin. What am I missing?


 BTW: postconf shows output shows that $myorigin is configured to use
 $mydomain,  or the domain name itself ...

 
 
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  I will only have access to this server next Wednesday. So until then I
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RE: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Bob Taylor

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:45 -0700, bruce wrote:
 say bob...
 
 it appears some would like to have the proverbial question how can i do X
 removed as well, particularly if X isn't somehow a direct centos issue.
 however, it might be that X is indeed a package in the centos mirror!!
 
 for my $0.02 worth, asking a question never hurts, and you can always choose
 to not reply, while someone else might repsond with the answer, which then
 might even help someone else who's later searching through the archives!!!

IMHO, other than *very* newbies, I would expect people to at least try
Google, then apropos and man if appropriate. My point was that the base
distribution is now so large, that many people are overwhelmed. Such as:

I've just installed CentOS. my X doesn't work. Now what do I do to fix
it.

A valid question needing a valid answer. List maintainers can do what I
do. Skip the thread.

All too many people just need a place to *start* or a gentle *hint*.
Just *how* many lists are we supposed to be members of?

Bob

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Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread MHR
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just installed CentOS. my X doesn't work. Now what do I do to fix
 it.

 A valid question needing a valid answer. List maintainers can do what I
 do. Skip the thread.


But asked in a totally inappropriate fashion.  The question should be posted as:

I've just installed CentOS 5.2 32-bit on an XXX CPU machine with xxGB
of memory and xxGB of disk (in an LVM or whatever).  My X doesn't work
- when I try it I get this:

disturbing problem output

I've read the man pages and Googled for this, but nothing shows up
that explains it (or my search criteria yadda yadda blah weren't an
effective choice).

Even moderately experienced Linux people like me need at least that
much information just to know if I know enough to answer, and
eventually this information should come out anyway.  Putting it up
front shows a) the user knows enough to ask a decent question and b)
more experienced users who might be able to answer should have enough
either to answer or ask more specific questions leading to an answer.

This is basic list etiquette, and in the last two weeks I've seen more
questions in the first form above (Bob's) that required digging in
toward the second form (my example) before anything was forthcoming.
That's a waste of the list's space and the user's time, if we read
them at all.

I've made noises about this from time to time, but now I just don't
care enough to answer them any more because, as little as I know from
my ten years with Linux, almost 2 with CentOS and not quite 29 with
computers in general, I'm not willing to waste my time or delve into
my experience to answer such illiterate questions.  If I did, the
answer would probably be RTFM, STFW or something like that (pretty
much what I've been told :-).

I'm beginning to understand why Vandaman was so stiff about his
responses, and the more BS we allow in, the more we'll get.

This is NOT to say that newbies and newcomers to the list should never
ask questions, but for heaven's sake - do some research FIRST, and
then provide as much useful information as you can when you DO ask.
You're supposed to read the list (or lurk, I suppose) for at least a
MONTH before asking a question, just so you can get a feel for what
works best and how people interact (read the list etiquette rules
linked at the page at the bottom of this, and every, post).

And, yes, Read The Flicking Manuals, Search The Frigging Web and THEN
ask if you don't have an answer.  And, yes, even I (sounds grandiose
but I don't mean it that way...) sometimes miss one of those, or ask
something dumb - it happens.

When you've shown that you know how to ask, preferably more often than
not, you get some courtesy from those who know because you have made
the effort.  Sometimes searching the web is trickier than it seems,
and one query might not give you everything if you don't ask quite
right.

/rant2

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[CentOS] Re: unsuscribe

2008-10-15 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-15-2008 12:34 PM MHR spake the following:
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Spook ZA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Miguel Varas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please I want unsuscribe for this list
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 Please (and this goes for most if not all mailing lists) view all
 headers associated with any mail to the list and you will find the
 following.

 
 Or pay attention when you sign up for a listmanager list like this and
 RTFSUP - all the information to unsubscribe is right there, not to
 mention in the page at the other end of the link in the footer of
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 I moderate over 300 Yahoo groups and belong to a (way smaller) number
 of email lists, and I've never seen one where the instructions for how
 to unsubscribe were not included somewhere in every post or article
 sent, and yet I've also witnessed the utterly amazing ability of
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 unsubscribe instructions or links in the messages they read.
 
 Foo.
 
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Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I'm beginning to understand why Vandaman was so stiff about his
 responses, and the more BS we allow in, the more we'll get.

And then those who genuinely need the help will be lost in a sea of
random threads.

Mailing lists need to be reigned in a bit tighter; for those of you
wanting to talk about random stuff, or wanting to talk about
tangential topics, you should be visiting forums like
linuxforums.org. 

The argument of choose what you read is garbage in my opinion as
mailing lists are a pull medium. Subscribers are receiving all
messages. They don't get a say in that unless they completely
unsubscribe. On forums, you can pick and choose at your leisure. That's
the point of them.


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[CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
One thing that we are often blamed for is trying to stifle conversations 
and to discourage people from commenting / contributing / encouraging 
conversations. And that cant be further from the truth, really. We are 
all pro-community ( and when I say we, I mean everyone - including the 
contributors, developers, admins, users, abusers and hey upstream too ).


However, one thing that does get in the way, often, and something that 
we all feel creates a higher 'noise' ratio is conversations on this list 
about semi-related stuff, but not something that directly contributes to 
the general users of CentOS. Conversations that specifically address 
four areas:


- technologies
- best practices
- deployment strategies and tools
- management strategies and tools

And to better cater to these conversations, as well as further encourage 
such content, we'd like to propose creating a 'centos-tech' list.


Over a period of time, we would like to see the CentOS list become a 
more user help and distro specific list, with generic conversations 
moving to the centos-tech list.


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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Karanbir Singh

Karanbir Singh wrote:
And to better cater to these conversations, as well as further encourage 
such content, we'd like to propose creating a 'centos-tech' list.


Also, all comments are welcome!

If there is a general feeling that this would help, then we will go 
ahead and setup the new list in the next few days.


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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Clint Dilks

Karanbir Singh wrote:


However, one thing that does get in the way, often, and something that 
we all feel creates a higher 'noise' ratio is conversations on this 
list about semi-related stuff, but not something that directly 
contributes to the general users of CentOS. Conversations that 
specifically address four areas:


- technologies
- best practices
- deployment strategies and tools
- management strategies and tools

And to better cater to these conversations, as well as further 
encourage such content, we'd like to propose creating a 'centos-tech' 
list.


Over a period of time, we would like to see the CentOS list become a 
more user help and distro specific list, with generic conversations 
moving to the centos-tech list.



Sounds like a great idea, :)
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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:52:44 +0100
Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And to better cater to these conversations, as well as further encourage 
 such content, we'd like to propose creating a 'centos-tech' list.

Sounds like a whale of a plan.

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008, Frank Cox wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:52:44 +0100
Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And to better cater to these conversations, as well as further encourage 
 such content, we'd like to propose creating a 'centos-tech' list.

Sounds like a whale of a plan.

Personally I prefer the more general lists rather than splitting
off into a bunch of more specific ones.  I often learn things by
reading messages that I would see on more targeted lists.  The
more general lists also seem more likely to engender a feeling of
community (the linux-sxs.org nee Caldera list is a case in point).

Perhaps my viewpoint is a bit skewed since I use an e-mail
program, mutt, that makes it very easy to see articles by thread,
and to delete everything in a thread with a single ctrl-D.  I
use Thunderbird on occassion to read messages where I know they
are likely to be HTML and have long links to click, but GUIs are
far too slow and cumbersome to deal with hundreds of messages a
day, particularly in my postmaster and security folders which may
go to thousands of messages in the morning.

Bill
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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:25:24 -0700
Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Personally I prefer the more general lists rather than splitting
 off into a bunch of more specific ones.  I often learn things by
 reading messages that I would see on more targeted lists.  The
 more general lists also seem more likely to engender a feeling of
 community (the linux-sxs.org nee Caldera list is a case in point).

I tend to agree with you, actually.  The Fedora list, for example, seems to
work fine as far as I can see (most of the time, anyway), and I just skip over
anything that doesn't look interesting to me.

However, I can appreciate that some folks may not want to deal with the noise
and, when it comes to Centos, where else are you going to take it in that case?

I suspect that most of the discussion and question ask-and-answer stuff
currently dealt with here will migrate to the new list within a short period of
time, simply because it will be more free-wheeling and easy to post to.  This
list will become much less active and relevant if that occurs.

Accordingly, I plan to subscribe to both lists when the second one is created
and hope to continue to learn stuff.

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