[CentOS-docs] For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 and 2 -- Obamas Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team
For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 By Edmund Connelly for The Occidental Observer January 16, 2008 The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. --Paul Craig Roberts I sometimes think that its pointless for Americans to talk much about recent events in Gaza because we know how it will play out America will do absolutely nothing to interfere with the ongoing massacre. British journalist Robert Fisk reminds us of the drill: So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in purity of arms. But why should we be surprised? Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead almost all civilians, most of them children and women in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians? This time around, Israel shows not the slightest compunction about brazenly massacring an imprisoned population in front of the world. But why should they? They know no real opposition will arise from power centers anywhere on earth. And they continue to have America Republicans, Democrats, Christian Zionists and almost everybody else in their thrall. In large part, this is due to what Israel Shamir wrote with respect to Jewish financial mischief: The rich Jews buy media so it will cover up their (and their brethren's) misdeeds. James Petras also weighed in on Israels ongoing war against the Palestinians, writing, Israels sustained and comprehensive bombing campaign of every aspect of governance, civic institutions and society is directed toward destroying civilized life in Gaza. Echoing Shamir, Petras noted that Israels attempt to purge Palestine of its Arab population continues without apology because The Israeli totalitarian leaders knew with confidence that they could act and they could kill with impunity, locally and before the entire world, because of the influence of the US Zionist Power Configuration in and over the US White House and Congress. Another voice that showed exasperation with Israels actions was that of Taki Theodoracopulos, who wrote, Israel can now safely be called the Bernie Madoff of countries, as it has lied to the world about its intentions, stolen Palestinian lands continuously since 1948, and managed to do all this with American tax payers money. Perhaps no one, however, is more morally outraged than former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts, who wrote on VDARE: Caterpillar Tractor makes a special bulldozer for Israel that is designed to knock down Palestinian homes and to uproot their orchards. In 2003 an American protester, Rachel Corrie, stood in front of one of these Caterpillars and was run over and crushed. Nothing happened. The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. They have been doing so for 60 years, and they show no sign of stopping. Roberts continued, While the rest of the world condemns Israels inhumanity, the US Congress I should say the US Knesset rushed to endorse the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza. How pervasive was this endorsement? The US Senate endorsed Israels massacre of Palestinians with a vote of 100-0. The US House of Representatives voted 430-5 to endorse Israels massacre of Palestinians. . . . (See here for further details.) Readers who have followed Roberts in the post-9-11 period know that he has been a persistent critic of Israels influence over President Bush and the Congress. He has not changed his position with respect to Gaza either: The US Congress was proud to show that it is Israels puppet even when it comes to murdering women and children. The President of the United States was proud to block effective action by the UN Security Council by ordering the Secretary of State to abstain. Two days later, Roberts added to his critique, displaying how fully Bush is a puppet to an Israeli master: Early Friday morning the secretary of state was considering bringing the cease-fire resolution to a UN [Security Council] vote and we didnt want her to vote for it, Olmert said. I said get President Bush on the phone. They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said Im not interested, I need to speak to him now. He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call. [PM: Rice left embarrassed in UN vote, By Yaakov Lappin , Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2009]. Roberts then turned to a friends comments to summarize this exchange: Let me
[CentOS-docs] For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 and 2 -- Obamas Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team
For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 By Edmund Connelly for The Occidental Observer January 16, 2008 The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. --Paul Craig Roberts I sometimes think that its pointless for Americans to talk much about recent events in Gaza because we know how it will play out America will do absolutely nothing to interfere with the ongoing massacre. British journalist Robert Fisk reminds us of the drill: So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in purity of arms. But why should we be surprised? Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead almost all civilians, most of them children and women in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians? This time around, Israel shows not the slightest compunction about brazenly massacring an imprisoned population in front of the world. But why should they? They know no real opposition will arise from power centers anywhere on earth. And they continue to have America Republicans, Democrats, Christian Zionists and almost everybody else in their thrall. In large part, this is due to what Israel Shamir wrote with respect to Jewish financial mischief: The rich Jews buy media so it will cover up their (and their brethren's) misdeeds. James Petras also weighed in on Israels ongoing war against the Palestinians, writing, Israels sustained and comprehensive bombing campaign of every aspect of governance, civic institutions and society is directed toward destroying civilized life in Gaza. Echoing Shamir, Petras noted that Israels attempt to purge Palestine of its Arab population continues without apology because The Israeli totalitarian leaders knew with confidence that they could act and they could kill with impunity, locally and before the entire world, because of the influence of the US Zionist Power Configuration in and over the US White House and Congress. Another voice that showed exasperation with Israels actions was that of Taki Theodoracopulos, who wrote, Israel can now safely be called the Bernie Madoff of countries, as it has lied to the world about its intentions, stolen Palestinian lands continuously since 1948, and managed to do all this with American tax payers money. Perhaps no one, however, is more morally outraged than former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts, who wrote on VDARE: Caterpillar Tractor makes a special bulldozer for Israel that is designed to knock down Palestinian homes and to uproot their orchards. In 2003 an American protester, Rachel Corrie, stood in front of one of these Caterpillars and was run over and crushed. Nothing happened. The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. They have been doing so for 60 years, and they show no sign of stopping. Roberts continued, While the rest of the world condemns Israels inhumanity, the US Congress I should say the US Knesset rushed to endorse the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza. How pervasive was this endorsement? The US Senate endorsed Israels massacre of Palestinians with a vote of 100-0. The US House of Representatives voted 430-5 to endorse Israels massacre of Palestinians. . . . (See here for further details.) Readers who have followed Roberts in the post-9-11 period know that he has been a persistent critic of Israels influence over President Bush and the Congress. He has not changed his position with respect to Gaza either: The US Congress was proud to show that it is Israels puppet even when it comes to murdering women and children. The President of the United States was proud to block effective action by the UN Security Council by ordering the Secretary of State to abstain. Two days later, Roberts added to his critique, displaying how fully Bush is a puppet to an Israeli master: Early Friday morning the secretary of state was considering bringing the cease-fire resolution to a UN [Security Council] vote and we didnt want her to vote for it, Olmert said. I said get President Bush on the phone. They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said Im not interested, I need to speak to him now. He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call. [PM: Rice left embarrassed in UN vote, By Yaakov Lappin , Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2009]. Roberts then turned to a friends comments to summarize this exchange: Let me
[CentOS-docs] I would like to correct some minor errors and add NagViz
Hi, I have just followed the http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Nagios intruction and found some minor errors that I would like to correct. I would also like to add a section with NagViz to the Nagios HowTo. My user is matsk. Kind regards Mats ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] I would like to correct some minor errors and add NagViz
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.dera%2bcen...@br-online.de wrote: Mats Karlsson wrote: I have just followed the http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Nagios intruction and found some minor errors that I would like to correct. I would also like to add a section with NagViz to the Nagios HowTo. Welcome back. You may now edit all over the wiki, so take care! Cheers, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs Hm, Thats sounds dangerouse, I have always liked to have a minimum of rights, can't be blamed then ;-) /Mats PS. Thanks Ralph, was just kiding abowe ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Anaconda Slide Translation Guide
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Yes, gdm and kdebase (because you have a Theme=Treeflower in some config files). I hope we don't have to really rebuild kdebase for that ... I have most of the other stuff ready (I'm just rebuilding gdm). Most stuff works (I cannot test the anaconda stuff yet), except rhgb, which shows some strange graphics I cannot explain. Maybe I'll get it fixed today. I've uploaded the rpms to the artwork svn for anyone to try out. I'd advise you to wait a few hours, I'm going to take another shot at redhat-logos to fix rhgb. Cheers, Ralph pgpqAUT4E640j.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Release Note translation for CentOS 5.3
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra...@centos.org wrote: Part 1: Redo the anaconda slides For several languages there are already translations for the slides. If there already is a translation, please check it for spelling or grammar errors. For other languages, there are no slides yet. If you want to see slides in your language, this is your chance to translate them. For doing that you need an inkscape install on your machine and an account at https://projects.centos.org/trac/artwork/ (which also can be used for accessing other projects on there). There is a HowTo on translating and rendering slides at https://projects.centos.org/trac/artwork/wiki/HowToTranslateSlides which should cover all of the process. If you have any questions regarding that, feel free to contact me. The slides have to be done next Thursday (29th of January), so please translate those first. I will do the german translation for those slides, so that I also am getting used to the process - I have to be able to answer your questions anyway =:) If what I'm seeing is true, most of the slides (except en and ja) say CentOS 6 instead of CentOS 5. https://projects.centos.org/trac/artwork/browser/trunk/Themes/TreeFlower/Anaconda/Progress/Slides-1/img Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] [Centos-moderators] Release Note translation for CentOS 5.3
Akemi Yagi wrote: If what I'm seeing is true, most of the slides (except en and ja) say CentOS 6 instead of CentOS 5. https://projects.centos.org/trac/artwork/browser/trunk/Themes/TreeFlower/Anaconda/Progress/Slides-1/img We are using Slides-2, not Slides-1. Can you check those? Thanks, Ralph pgpcwxu3uaZ1s.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] [Centos-moderators] Release Note translation for CentOS 5.3
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: We are using Slides-2, not Slides-1. Can you check those? Sorry, I was looking into wrong places :-( Some slides in Slides-2 are not right though (e.g. it and fr). Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] [Centos-moderators] Release Note translation for CentOS 5.3
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: We are using Slides-2, not Slides-1. Can you check those? Sorry, I was looking into wrong places :-( Some slides in Slides-2 are not right though (e.g. it and fr). That means that they weren't redone - hey france! wake up! The italian maintainer has gone away, I think I can rerender those. Ralph pgpT9TDpyGRD5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Anaconda Slide Translation Guide
Ralph Angenendt wrote: I have most of the other stuff ready (I'm just rebuilding gdm). Most stuff works (I cannot test the anaconda stuff yet), except rhgb, which shows some strange graphics I cannot explain. Maybe I'll get it fixed today. I've uploaded the rpms to the artwork svn for anyone to try out. I'd advise you to wait a few hours, I'm going to take another shot at redhat-logos to fix rhgb. Okay, those should all be fixed. They are in trunk/Packages/5/ in subversion. Just install them with rpm -Uvh *rpm (leaving out the debuginfo ones). You should then reboot and watch out for any problems with the artwork. I think the background color in rhgb is off, but that can be fixed if I get the correct RGB values for TreeFlower Backgrounds. Ralph pgpsyd1JMjQ7e.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] [Centos-moderators] Release Note translation for CentOS 5.3
On 01/29/2009 03:51 AM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: On 01/29/2009 02:40 AM, Ralph Angenendt wrote: [...] Some slides in Slides-2 are not right though (e.g. it and fr). The italian maintainer has gone away, I think I can rerender those. I can take a look if you want me to, but for proper spelling checks I have to wait until after 3 PM when a friend who speaks Italian fluently will come online. Mine is just for short contacts as we used to say in the amateur radio land. I went ahead and fixed slide 4 (extras does NOT replace content from base) + rerender + update. That redish theme really hurts my eyes. PS: my guts say that slide 5 (in Il team di sviluppo di CentOS, testa ogni pacchetto presente in questo repository, che sono prodotti su CentOS =VERSION=, e ne verifica il funzionamento.) has a couple of extra commas, but I have to talk with my friend first. AFAIK placing a comma between the subject and the verb (i.e. before testa == tests) is not OK. And neither is the one before the 'e (as in , e ne verifica [...] == and verifies [...] ). ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-announce] For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 and 2 -- Obamas Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team
For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 By Edmund Connelly for The Occidental Observer January 16, 2008 The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. --Paul Craig Roberts I sometimes think that its pointless for Americans to talk much about recent events in Gaza because we know how it will play out America will do absolutely nothing to interfere with the ongoing massacre. British journalist Robert Fisk reminds us of the drill: So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in purity of arms. But why should we be surprised? Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead almost all civilians, most of them children and women in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians? This time around, Israel shows not the slightest compunction about brazenly massacring an imprisoned population in front of the world. But why should they? They know no real opposition will arise from power centers anywhere on earth. And they continue to have America Republicans, Democrats, Christian Zionists and almost everybody else in their thrall. In large part, this is due to what Israel Shamir wrote with respect to Jewish financial mischief: The rich Jews buy media so it will cover up their (and their brethren's) misdeeds. James Petras also weighed in on Israels ongoing war against the Palestinians, writing, Israels sustained and comprehensive bombing campaign of every aspect of governance, civic institutions and society is directed toward destroying civilized life in Gaza. Echoing Shamir, Petras noted that Israels attempt to purge Palestine of its Arab population continues without apology because The Israeli totalitarian leaders knew with confidence that they could act and they could kill with impunity, locally and before the entire world, because of the influence of the US Zionist Power Configuration in and over the US White House and Congress. Another voice that showed exasperation with Israels actions was that of Taki Theodoracopulos, who wrote, Israel can now safely be called the Bernie Madoff of countries, as it has lied to the world about its intentions, stolen Palestinian lands continuously since 1948, and managed to do all this with American tax payers money. Perhaps no one, however, is more morally outraged than former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts, who wrote on VDARE: Caterpillar Tractor makes a special bulldozer for Israel that is designed to knock down Palestinian homes and to uproot their orchards. In 2003 an American protester, Rachel Corrie, stood in front of one of these Caterpillars and was run over and crushed. Nothing happened. The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. They have been doing so for 60 years, and they show no sign of stopping. Roberts continued, While the rest of the world condemns Israels inhumanity, the US Congress I should say the US Knesset rushed to endorse the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza. How pervasive was this endorsement? The US Senate endorsed Israels massacre of Palestinians with a vote of 100-0. The US House of Representatives voted 430-5 to endorse Israels massacre of Palestinians. . . . (See here for further details.) Readers who have followed Roberts in the post-9-11 period know that he has been a persistent critic of Israels influence over President Bush and the Congress. He has not changed his position with respect to Gaza either: The US Congress was proud to show that it is Israels puppet even when it comes to murdering women and children. The President of the United States was proud to block effective action by the UN Security Council by ordering the Secretary of State to abstain. Two days later, Roberts added to his critique, displaying how fully Bush is a puppet to an Israeli master: Early Friday morning the secretary of state was considering bringing the cease-fire resolution to a UN [Security Council] vote and we didnt want her to vote for it, Olmert said. I said get President Bush on the phone. They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said Im not interested, I need to speak to him now. He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call. [PM: Rice left embarrassed in UN vote, By Yaakov Lappin , Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2009]. Roberts then turned to a friends comments to summarize this exchange: Let me
[CentOS-announce] For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 and 2 -- Obamas Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team
For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 By Edmund Connelly for The Occidental Observer January 16, 2008 The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. --Paul Craig Roberts I sometimes think that its pointless for Americans to talk much about recent events in Gaza because we know how it will play out America will do absolutely nothing to interfere with the ongoing massacre. British journalist Robert Fisk reminds us of the drill: So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in purity of arms. But why should we be surprised? Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead almost all civilians, most of them children and women in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians? This time around, Israel shows not the slightest compunction about brazenly massacring an imprisoned population in front of the world. But why should they? They know no real opposition will arise from power centers anywhere on earth. And they continue to have America Republicans, Democrats, Christian Zionists and almost everybody else in their thrall. In large part, this is due to what Israel Shamir wrote with respect to Jewish financial mischief: The rich Jews buy media so it will cover up their (and their brethren's) misdeeds. James Petras also weighed in on Israels ongoing war against the Palestinians, writing, Israels sustained and comprehensive bombing campaign of every aspect of governance, civic institutions and society is directed toward destroying civilized life in Gaza. Echoing Shamir, Petras noted that Israels attempt to purge Palestine of its Arab population continues without apology because The Israeli totalitarian leaders knew with confidence that they could act and they could kill with impunity, locally and before the entire world, because of the influence of the US Zionist Power Configuration in and over the US White House and Congress. Another voice that showed exasperation with Israels actions was that of Taki Theodoracopulos, who wrote, Israel can now safely be called the Bernie Madoff of countries, as it has lied to the world about its intentions, stolen Palestinian lands continuously since 1948, and managed to do all this with American tax payers money. Perhaps no one, however, is more morally outraged than former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts, who wrote on VDARE: Caterpillar Tractor makes a special bulldozer for Israel that is designed to knock down Palestinian homes and to uproot their orchards. In 2003 an American protester, Rachel Corrie, stood in front of one of these Caterpillars and was run over and crushed. Nothing happened. The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. They have been doing so for 60 years, and they show no sign of stopping. Roberts continued, While the rest of the world condemns Israels inhumanity, the US Congress I should say the US Knesset rushed to endorse the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza. How pervasive was this endorsement? The US Senate endorsed Israels massacre of Palestinians with a vote of 100-0. The US House of Representatives voted 430-5 to endorse Israels massacre of Palestinians. . . . (See here for further details.) Readers who have followed Roberts in the post-9-11 period know that he has been a persistent critic of Israels influence over President Bush and the Congress. He has not changed his position with respect to Gaza either: The US Congress was proud to show that it is Israels puppet even when it comes to murdering women and children. The President of the United States was proud to block effective action by the UN Security Council by ordering the Secretary of State to abstain. Two days later, Roberts added to his critique, displaying how fully Bush is a puppet to an Israeli master: Early Friday morning the secretary of state was considering bringing the cease-fire resolution to a UN [Security Council] vote and we didnt want her to vote for it, Olmert said. I said get President Bush on the phone. They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said Im not interested, I need to speak to him now. He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call. [PM: Rice left embarrassed in UN vote, By Yaakov Lappin , Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2009]. Roberts then turned to a friends comments to summarize this exchange: Let me
[CentOS-announce] Political Spam sent through several CentOS mailing lists
The CentOS team likes to offer an apology for the political spam mails which went through our mail servers earlier today. Due to the nature of mailing list software for public discussion groups, there aren't that many security measures which can be taken to check which mails are supposed to get through and which mails aren't. Total safety can only be had by a moderation of all lists - and that is not where we want to go. The spammer today faked the identity of a CentOS core developer and thus got through on all mailing lists. That these mails also got through the moderated centos-announce list was an oversight in the configuration of that list which has been fixed now. The CentOS team does not condone such behaviour and does not wish to support any political agenda through the mailing lists of the Project - in case you had wondered. Regards, Ralph Angenendt pgp3tMPyZCcWt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
Re: [CentOS-es] Presentacion
Holas, El comando system-config-display con el parametro reconfig podria ayudarte a reconfigurar el modo gráfico desde una terminal. # system-config-display --reconfig Slds, Alfonzo. 2009/1/27 Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis alleinerw...@gmail.com Hola a todos, ojala que no salga eco de este mail, soy nuevo en la lista y de entradita tengo un problema :( Necesito instalar un servidor con Centos, pero el equipo no puede leer CD's (cosa rara no pude con eso), asi que me lleve el disco duro a casa e instale centos en mi casa, para trater el disco duro al laboratorio, pero tuve (y aun tengo) problemas con la interfaz grafica, reconfigure las X con Xorg -configure y todo eso y ahora sale un error que dice mas o menos dice que el gestor de sesiones (o algo asi) se ha caido se tratara de usar otro -- Una alegría compartida se transforma en doble alegría; una pena compartida, en media pena. http://alexove.blogspot.com/ http://cj-ubunteando.blogspot.com www.cuscolibreweb.org http://groups.google.com.pe/group/mosoq_kallpa ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Presentacion
El mar, 27-01-2009 a las 12:42 -0500, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis escribió: Sorry por los logs que olvide poner, hice ese tipo de instalacion porke el servidor es algo viejito y fue rescatado de usar windows y de un mal de uso (no puedo detallar como la maltrataron), y acabamos de confirmar que la placa tiene un problema fisico (seguramente por ese mal uso que le dieron) y por eso no puede leer cd's (problema con el IDE) por eso me lleve el disco duro a casa, de funcionar el sistema funciona (solo en modo texto), pero la mayoria de utilidades de configuracion estan en gnome, asi que es algo tedioso configurarlo de este modo. No necesitas correr ningún servidor gráfico -en este caso X- en tu servidor (hardware). Recuerda que X es un sistema cliente servidor, lo único que necesitas hacer es estar en otra máquina con Linux corriendo X en castellano: una máquina de escritorio con Gnome/KDE u otro, más castellano: una máquina con Fedora, CentOS, Ubuntu o otro Luego iniciar una sesión remota con SSH pero usar la opción -X (reenvío del protocolo X11). Si por ejemplo la IP de tu servidor es 192.168.1.2 haz: ssh -X r...@192.168.1.2 Y listo, luego puedes lanzar cualquier aplicación que use GUI, por ejemplo para administrar usuarios escribes: system-config-users Si escribes: system-config[TAB][TAB] verás todas las herramientas que puedes correr. Personalmente prefiero las herramientas desde línea de órdenes Saludos -- Hardy Beltran Monasterios La Paz, Bolivia. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] OT: Re: Presentacion
El mié, 28-01-2009 a las 08:38 +0100, AraDaen escribió: Buenos días, pastea cuando puedas los logs a ver si podemos echarte un cable. De todas formas, si dices que la placa esta tocada,.. es más que osado utilizarlo para montar un server en producción. ¿ pastea ?...! ¿ qué verbo es ese ? ¿ viene de pastear ? ¿ hay algún pastor u ovejas aquí ? Saludos Hardy ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] OT: Re: Presentacion
jajaja mil perdones, quería decir que pegara/enviara los logs (archivos de registro) del error. Hardy Beltran Monasterios escribió: El mié, 28-01-2009 a las 08:38 +0100, AraDaen escribió: Buenos días, pastea cuando puedas los logs a ver si podemos echarte un cable. De todas formas, si dices que la placa esta tocada,.. es más que osado utilizarlo para montar un server en producción. ¿ pastea ?...! ¿ qué verbo es ese ? ¿ viene de pastear ? ¿ hay algún pastor u ovejas aquí ? Saludos Hardy ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] OT: Re: Presentacion
Hola gracias por las ganas de ayudar, la makina que les contaba ha dado su ultimo suspiro (al menos HD) y le hemos puesto un disco duro con debian y increiblemente lo esta corriendo sin problemas, incluso la configuracion grafica.gracias de todos modos por el animo de querer ayuda ... :) -- Una alegría compartida se transforma en doble alegría; una pena compartida, en media pena. http://alexove.blogspot.com/ http://cj-ubunteando.blogspot.com www.cuscolibreweb.org http://groups.google.com.pe/group/mosoq_kallpa ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problema raro hotmail contra centos 5
PROBLEMA SOLUCIONADO SI ALGUIEN LE HA PASADO, TIENE QUE INSISTIR A HOTMAIL ES LA UNICAR FORMA DE SALIR DE ESTE PROBLEMA From: luisroma...@hotmail.comto: centos...@centos.orgdate: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:53:06 +Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Problema raro hotmail contra centos 5 Bueno hace un tiempo me paso lo mismo y solotenia porblemas con las paginas LIVE ... por ejemlplo el Hotmailel problema fue que se perdia la autenticacion ... y tenias que darle un doble ruteo. ... una vez hecho eso pues ese problema se resolvio. Luis Roman -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:17:17 -0500 From: Nino Bravo nino1...@hotmail.com Subject: [CentOS-es] Problema raro hotmail contra centos 5 To: centos-es@centos.org Message-ID: col106-w22830cb78debd76175be8dcd...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Amigos tengo el siguiente problema NO SE PUEDEN CREAR CUENTAS DE CORREO EN HOTMAIL, a partir de un servidor linux con ip pública (varias ips privadas o pcs conectadas a este): este es le mensaje del erro que sale: HA ALCANZADO EL LIMITE DIARIO DE CREACION DE WINDOWS LIVE ID. ESPERE QUE TRANSCURRAN 24 HORAS E INTENTE REGISTRARSE DE NUEVO póngase en contacto con el servicio de soporte técnico para recibir asistencia ACEPTAR Código de error: 450 : 0x800482d4 : 2009-01-16T18:23:58 GMT ES ALGUN PROBLEMA CON MI SQUID?, LA HORA DEL SERVER ESTA BIEN: dom ene 25 07:15:59 ECT 2009 AGRADEZCO SUS RESPUESTAS. ATT NINO _ Get 5 GB of storage with Windows Live Hotmail. Sign up today. _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] getting Centos on used rackable systems 1U withdualOpteron 248 HE
RobertH napsal(a): u basically with centos 4 or 5 64 bit, it is freezing when i get to the partitioning and want to continue forward or after partitioning and moving towards the um place where one chooses software. Hi, are those disks totally empty or there are some partitions? Try to look at them with fdisk. BTW sometimes Anaconda fails on disks with partitions. Deleting partitions helps before install, sometimes I have to create a new empty DOS partition table with fdisk. Regards, David ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] getting Centos on used rackable systems 1U withdualOpteron 248 HE
David Hrbác wrote: are those disks totally empty or there are some partitions? Try to look at them with fdisk. BTW sometimes Anaconda fails on disks with partitions. Deleting partitions helps before install, sometimes I have to create a new empty DOS partition table with fdisk or my old standby, boot the centos cd to single user mode, and execute dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=1024 this zeros the first megabyte of the disk, wiping all traces of partition tables. power cycle to clear the state of -everything-, *then* boot the installer... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] getting Centos on used rackable systems 1U withdualOpteron 248 HE
RobertH schrieb: i was wondering if others had bought any of these boxes and played with them yet. they are pretty cheap and i have been looking for some cheap rackmount boxes that i can throw large ata ide drives in to do some things with Just for kicks, can you try: - installing FreeBSD 7.1 64bit - installing a FreeBSD8 snapshot from recently - Windows 2003 server - OpenSolaris - Ubuntu (server) ? If none of these work, I'd toss it ;-) There may be a reason why they were cheap... Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
From: Peter Kjellstrom c...@nsc.liu.se If it does raid6 then you have a p400 or p800 controller, right? If so then hpacucli or similar can easily give you a small logical drive for the OS and then a large one for data. Yes, that's the plan but, the thing is to be able to run the utilities... I need either to make a live CD with the HP tools installed, or a temporary OS with the tools... First try will be to create a RAID6 on 3 disks (=1 TB, so no grub problems), install the OS, run HP ACU, extend the RAID to the 12 disks, and create the logical disks... If first try fails, second try would be to use a temporary USB disk to install a temporary OS. I even thought of Installing the P800 in a model 3xx, while leaving the disks in the DL180 (if cable length permits it), and boot with SmartStart on the 3xx... ^_^ As for the logical disks sizes, we would go with something like 5 disks of 1.9TB. So, just classic msdos partitions. One thing is for sure, HP tries really hard to make it complicated... JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] gpg agent not running
Can someone please remind me of the current approved way of starting gpg-agent at root? Thanks Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ftp and iptables
Chaz Sliger wrote: Have you loaded the ftp modules? modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp modprobe ip_nat_ftp -chaz Yes, they were added in iptables-config. iptables is working fine. Thanks. -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Agile Aspect Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:45 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] ftp and iptables Robert Spangler wrote: Do you have a rule like this: -A OUTPUT --m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT No I don't. It doesn't work under CentOS 5.2. But it works on my laptop which is running Fedora 9. If not you should place this in your rules. This rule eleminates the need to continuesly add rules to allow out going connection for allowed incoming connection. If you do then you should not need the OUTPUT rules you listed above. Thanks for the reply! -- Article. VI. Clause 3 of the constitution of the United States states: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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Nyarai Tunjera ICT Director Gateway Primary School Box EH 121 Emeraldhill Zimbabwe www.gatewayprimary.co.zw Forever God is Faithful Be exalted oh GOD above the heavens Let your Glory fill ALL the earth. Great is OUR God -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Jake wrote: ... I came across this article you may find useful: http://www.unixgods.org/~tilo/linux_larger_2TB.html I should say that I STRONGLY recommend not creating ext3 file systems in the 2TB+ range I consider that FUD. We have many ext3 filesystems 2T and the run ok. Sure we do disable automatic fsck on reboot but we schedule a manual fsck when we get the opportunity. IMHO automatic fsck on reboot after, say, 30 boots is a pure desktop/laptop thing. When you have servers that stay up you'll have to plan for fsck anyway. As Joshua wrote, there is no filesystem more supported and tried on CentOS... /Peter - fsck takes too long and you'd hate to get hit by one of those in what is supposed to be a quick reboot...and disabling them on the file system isn't a good idea either. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
On Wednesday 28 January 2009, John Doe wrote: From: Peter Kjellstrom c...@nsc.liu.se If it does raid6 then you have a p400 or p800 controller, right? If so then hpacucli or similar can easily give you a small logical drive for the OS and then a large one for data. Yes, that's the plan but, the thing is to be able to run the utilities... I need either to make a live CD with the HP tools installed, or a temporary OS with the tools... First try will be to create a RAID6 on 3 disks (=1 TB, so no grub problems), install the OS, run HP ACU, extend the RAID to the 12 disks, and create the logical disks... If first try fails, second try would be to use a temporary USB disk to install a temporary OS. This sounds much better to me. Invest 30 min. and install a centos-5 to a 4G usb-stick. Put hpacucli and hpaducli on it and then you can configure, manage and diagnose any server you want. I even thought of Installing the P800 in a model 3xx, while leaving the disks in the DL180 (if cable length permits it), and boot with SmartStart on the 3xx... ^_^ As for the logical disks sizes, we would go with something like 5 disks of 1.9TB. So, just classic msdos partitions. One thing is for sure, HP tries really hard to make it complicated... Why would you make 5 logical drives? Why use partition tables? I think hpacucli works fine but it sure would have been nice to be able to create flexible logical drives in the smartarray bios. /Peter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gpg agent not running
On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: Can someone please remind me of the current approved way of starting gpg-agent at root? Thanks as root or at boot? /Peter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
how to stop fsck on boot? --- 09/1/28 (星期三)，Peter Kjellstrom c...@nsc.liu.se 寫道： 寄件者: Peter Kjellstrom c...@nsc.liu.se 主旨: Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID... 收件者: centos@centos.org 日期: 2009 1 28 星期三 上午 7:40 On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Jake wrote: ... I came across this article you may find useful: http://www.unixgods.org/~tilo/linux_larger_2TB.html I should say that I STRONGLY recommend not creating ext3 file systems in the 2TB+ range I consider that FUD. We have many ext3 filesystems 2T and the run ok. Sure we do disable automatic fsck on reboot but we schedule a manual fsck when we get the opportunity. IMHO automatic fsck on reboot after, say, 30 boots is a pure desktop/laptop thing. When you have servers that stay up you'll have to plan for fsck anyway. As Joshua wrote, there is no filesystem more supported and tried on CentOS... /Peter - fsck takes too long and you'd hate to get hit by one of those in what is supposed to be a quick reboot...and disabling them on the file system isn't a good idea either. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos __ 付費才容量無上限？Yahoo!奇摩電子信箱2.0免費給你，信件永遠不必刪！ http://tw.mg0.mail.yahoo.com/dc/landing ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gpg agent not running
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 12:45:16 Peter Kjellstrom wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: Can someone please remind me of the current approved way of starting gpg-agent at root? Thanks as root or at boot? Sorry - stupid typo. Yes, at boot - or login, to be more precise. I think I used to start it with an eval statement in ~/.bash_profile, but on my backup file I see that it's commented out, so I presume I was told that there is a better way. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Nyarai Tunjera n...@gatewayprimary.co.zw wrote: Nyarai Tunjera ICT Director Gateway Primary School Box EH 121 Emeraldhill Zimbabwe www.gatewayprimary.co.zw Forever God is Faithful Be exalted oh GOD above the heavens Let your Glory fill ALL the earth. Great is OUR God -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Wow - so you are an ICT director? Amazing that you could be a dickhead in SO MANY WAYS in ONE EMAIL! #1 - sending HTML email to a List that doesn't allow it #2 - Sending an unsubscribe message to an email address that doesn't do anything with them when the information on how to unsubscribe is right in the headers to the email. #3 attaching a totally FUCKING STUPID OOO, OOO, OH, THIS MAIL WAS SCANNED FOR VIRUSES message to the email LIKE A VIRUS COULDN'T PUT ONE THERE ITSELF! #4 - Putting a stupid religious message in the email after proving God doesn't exist (Proof- God is perfect, you clearly aren't therefore God didn't create you, which means the claim that God created the Earth and everything else in the Universe is FALSE!.) Too bad you're such a dickhead, Otherwise God would still be safe. I wouldn't let you near a bicycle, much less a computer. oh wait.. You're from Zimbabwe!That explains everything. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
mcclnx mcc wrote: how to stop fsck on boot? 1. vi /etc/fstab 2. grub.conf = fastboot 3. touch /fastboot t ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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cent osserver wrote: Wow - so you are an ICT director? Amazing that you could be a dickhead in SO MANY WAYS in ONE EMAIL! #1 - sending HTML email to a List that doesn't allow it #2 - Sending an unsubscribe message to an email address that doesn't do anything with them when the information on how to unsubscribe is right in the headers to the email. #3 attaching a totally FUCKING STUPID OOO, OOO, OH, THIS MAIL WAS SCANNED FOR VIRUSES message to the email LIKE A VIRUS COULDN'T PUT ONE THERE ITSELF! #4 - Putting a stupid religious message in the email after proving God doesn't exist (Proof- God is perfect, you clearly aren't therefore God didn't create you, which means the claim that God created the Earth and everything else in the Universe is FALSE!.) Too bad you're such a dickhead, Otherwise God would still be safe. I wouldn't let you near a bicycle, much less a computer. oh wait.. You're from Zimbabwe!That explains everything. Was that REALLY called for? Couldn't you have simply filed it in /dev/null? Your language is vulgar and totally unnecessary, your rantings are OT and irrelevant, and you've managed to offend an entire religion and nation in one email. Well done, give yourself a pat on the back! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
Peter Kjellstrom wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Jake wrote: ... I came across this article you may find useful: http://www.unixgods.org/~tilo/linux_larger_2TB.html I should say that I STRONGLY recommend not creating ext3 file systems in the 2TB+ range I consider that FUD. We have many ext3 filesystems 2T and the run ok. Sure we do disable automatic fsck on reboot but we schedule a manual fsck when we get the opportunity. IMHO automatic fsck on reboot after, say, 30 boots is a pure desktop/laptop thing. When you have servers that stay up you'll have to plan for fsck anyway. I saw that the use of LVM was tossed around, don't know if the OP is/plans on using it. If you use ext3 on lvm, you can do a background fsck while the system is up fs mounted: http://markmail.org/message/5ipnsva3xkdyzzfy As Joshua wrote, there is no filesystem more supported and tried on CentOS... Plus it should be a trivial upgrade to ext4 . . . -- tkb ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 08:21:13AM -0500, cent osserver wrote: Wow - so you are an ICT director? stuff deleted Um, That was a bit excessive wasn't it? Please refrain from posting that to the list. And be nicer. It works better in the long run. I can't be too judgmental here. I've fallen victim to the the Flaming syndrome myself, and regretted it. I believe there is a browser plugin that help gmail user's not respond too quickly... Maybe that would be a good addition.. :-) Jeff Kinz. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: Was that REALLY called for? Couldn't you have simply filed it in /dev/null? Yes, I should have. I gave into impulse in a weak moment and then REALLY screwed up by not noticing I was replying to the list and not the individual. (Most lists have reply-to set to the individual, not the list) Sorry. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 an d 2 -- Obamas Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team
For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 By Edmund Connelly for The Occidental Observer January 16, 2008 The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. --Paul Craig Roberts I sometimes think that its pointless for Americans to talk much about recent events in Gaza because we know how it will play out America will do absolutely nothing to interfere with the ongoing massacre. British journalist Robert Fisk reminds us of the drill: So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in purity of arms. But why should we be surprised? Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead almost all civilians, most of them children and women in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians? This time around, Israel shows not the slightest compunction about brazenly massacring an imprisoned population in front of the world. But why should they? They know no real opposition will arise from power centers anywhere on earth. And they continue to have America Republicans, Democrats, Christian Zionists and almost everybody else in their thrall. In large part, this is due to what Israel Shamir wrote with respect to Jewish financial mischief: The rich Jews buy media so it will cover up their (and their brethren's) misdeeds. James Petras also weighed in on Israels ongoing war against the Palestinians, writing, Israels sustained and comprehensive bombing campaign of every aspect of governance, civic institutions and society is directed toward destroying civilized life in Gaza. Echoing Shamir, Petras noted that Israels attempt to purge Palestine of its Arab population continues without apology because The Israeli totalitarian leaders knew with confidence that they could act and they could kill with impunity, locally and before the entire world, because of the influence of the US Zionist Power Configuration in and over the US White House and Congress. Another voice that showed exasperation with Israels actions was that of Taki Theodoracopulos, who wrote, Israel can now safely be called the Bernie Madoff of countries, as it has lied to the world about its intentions, stolen Palestinian lands continuously since 1948, and managed to do all this with American tax payers money. Perhaps no one, however, is more morally outraged than former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts, who wrote on VDARE: Caterpillar Tractor makes a special bulldozer for Israel that is designed to knock down Palestinian homes and to uproot their orchards. In 2003 an American protester, Rachel Corrie, stood in front of one of these Caterpillars and was run over and crushed. Nothing happened. The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. They have been doing so for 60 years, and they show no sign of stopping. Roberts continued, While the rest of the world condemns Israels inhumanity, the US Congress I should say the US Knesset rushed to endorse the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza. How pervasive was this endorsement? The US Senate endorsed Israels massacre of Palestinians with a vote of 100-0. The US House of Representatives voted 430-5 to endorse Israels massacre of Palestinians. . . . (See here for further details.) Readers who have followed Roberts in the post-9-11 period know that he has been a persistent critic of Israels influence over President Bush and the Congress. He has not changed his position with respect to Gaza either: The US Congress was proud to show that it is Israels puppet even when it comes to murdering women and children. The President of the United States was proud to block effective action by the UN Security Council by ordering the Secretary of State to abstain. Two days later, Roberts added to his critique, displaying how fully Bush is a puppet to an Israeli master: Early Friday morning the secretary of state was considering bringing the cease-fire resolution to a UN [Security Council] vote and we didnt want her to vote for it, Olmert said. I said get President Bush on the phone. They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said Im not interested, I need to speak to him now. He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call. [PM: Rice left embarrassed in UN vote, By Yaakov Lappin , Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2009]. Roberts then turned to a friends comments to summarize this exchange: Let me
[CentOS] For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 an d 2 -- Obamas Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team
For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 By Edmund Connelly for The Occidental Observer January 16, 2008 The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. --Paul Craig Roberts I sometimes think that its pointless for Americans to talk much about recent events in Gaza because we know how it will play out America will do absolutely nothing to interfere with the ongoing massacre. British journalist Robert Fisk reminds us of the drill: So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in purity of arms. But why should we be surprised? Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead almost all civilians, most of them children and women in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians? This time around, Israel shows not the slightest compunction about brazenly massacring an imprisoned population in front of the world. But why should they? They know no real opposition will arise from power centers anywhere on earth. And they continue to have America Republicans, Democrats, Christian Zionists and almost everybody else in their thrall. In large part, this is due to what Israel Shamir wrote with respect to Jewish financial mischief: The rich Jews buy media so it will cover up their (and their brethren's) misdeeds. James Petras also weighed in on Israels ongoing war against the Palestinians, writing, Israels sustained and comprehensive bombing campaign of every aspect of governance, civic institutions and society is directed toward destroying civilized life in Gaza. Echoing Shamir, Petras noted that Israels attempt to purge Palestine of its Arab population continues without apology because The Israeli totalitarian leaders knew with confidence that they could act and they could kill with impunity, locally and before the entire world, because of the influence of the US Zionist Power Configuration in and over the US White House and Congress. Another voice that showed exasperation with Israels actions was that of Taki Theodoracopulos, who wrote, Israel can now safely be called the Bernie Madoff of countries, as it has lied to the world about its intentions, stolen Palestinian lands continuously since 1948, and managed to do all this with American tax payers money. Perhaps no one, however, is more morally outraged than former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts, who wrote on VDARE: Caterpillar Tractor makes a special bulldozer for Israel that is designed to knock down Palestinian homes and to uproot their orchards. In 2003 an American protester, Rachel Corrie, stood in front of one of these Caterpillars and was run over and crushed. Nothing happened. The Israelis can kill whomever they want whenever they want. They have been doing so for 60 years, and they show no sign of stopping. Roberts continued, While the rest of the world condemns Israels inhumanity, the US Congress I should say the US Knesset rushed to endorse the Israeli slaughter of the Palestinians in Gaza. How pervasive was this endorsement? The US Senate endorsed Israels massacre of Palestinians with a vote of 100-0. The US House of Representatives voted 430-5 to endorse Israels massacre of Palestinians. . . . (See here for further details.) Readers who have followed Roberts in the post-9-11 period know that he has been a persistent critic of Israels influence over President Bush and the Congress. He has not changed his position with respect to Gaza either: The US Congress was proud to show that it is Israels puppet even when it comes to murdering women and children. The President of the United States was proud to block effective action by the UN Security Council by ordering the Secretary of State to abstain. Two days later, Roberts added to his critique, displaying how fully Bush is a puppet to an Israeli master: Early Friday morning the secretary of state was considering bringing the cease-fire resolution to a UN [Security Council] vote and we didnt want her to vote for it, Olmert said. I said get President Bush on the phone. They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said Im not interested, I need to speak to him now. He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call. [PM: Rice left embarrassed in UN vote, By Yaakov Lappin , Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2009]. Roberts then turned to a friends comments to summarize this exchange: Let me
Re: [CentOS] Completeley disabling SELinux?
jk...@kinz.org wrote: Hi Kevin, You are sending the list two copies of your email each time you post to the list. The second copy is in HTML (not allowed by list rules) Sorry, new pc. I've set centos.org to plain now (I think) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
Yes, that's the plan but, the thing is to be able to run the utilities... I need either to make a live CD with the HP tools installed, or a temporary OS with the tools... First try will be to create a RAID6 on 3 disks (=1 TB, so no grub problems), install the OS, run HP ACU, extend the RAID to the 12 disks, and create the logical disks... If first try fails, second try would be to use a temporary USB disk to install a temporary OS. This sounds much better to me. Invest 30 min. and install a centos-5 to a 4G usb-stick. Put hpacucli and hpaducli on it and then you can configure, manage and diagnose any server you want. I meant RAID6 on 4 disks of course... ^_^ I could install and boot, but the CLI version of the ACU is a bit intimidating... And long and complex command lines, without command history is really painful. Anyway, I managed and am currently extending the array to the 12 disks... It seems that it is going to take around 3 days! Maybe because the cache battery is not fully charged and so the writes are not cached... After that, I need to reduce the boot logical disk down to a dozen of GBs. And then, I need to create the other(s) logical disk(s). As for the logical disks sizes, we would go with something like 5 disks of 1.9TB. So, just classic msdos partitions. One thing is for sure, HP tries really hard to make it complicated... Why would you make 5 logical drives? Why use partition tables? Hum... just wanted to be fdisk friendly (no gpt)... But, since grub problem should be solved, I guess I could make 1 big logical disk with gpt and forget about fdisk... I saw that the use of LVM was tossed around, don't know if the OP is/plans on using it. If you use ext3 on lvm, you can do a background fsck while the system is up fs mounted: I must admit that I have never used lvm... We don't really need resizable/expandable volumes, etc... the server's capacity is already maxed. We try to follow the KISS principle as much as we can. But the live background fsck seems nice. Do you really think I should learn lvm rightaway? JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
On Wednesday 28 January 2009, mcclnx mcc wrote: how to stop fsck on boot? man tune2fs Each filesystem has two counters. One for max mounts since last fsck and one for max time since last fsck. Look for -i and -c in the man page. /Peter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 15:11 +0100, Lawrence Auster wrote: For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 By Edmund Connelly for The Occidental Observer are you kidding me? quoting David Duke? this is one of CentOS Directors? Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
From: mcclnx mcc mcc...@yahoo.com.tw how to stop fsck on boot? in fstab: The sixth field, (fs_passno), is used by the fsck(8) program to determine the order in which filesystem checks are done at reboot time. The root filesystem should be specified with a fs_passno of 1, and other filesystems should have a fs_passno of 2. Filesystems within a drive will be checked sequentially, but filesystems on different drives will be checked at the same time to utilize parallelism available in the hardware. If the sixth field is not present or zero, a value of zero is returned and fsck will assume that the filesystem does not need to be checked. or maybe tune2fs: -c max-mount-counts Adjust the number of mounts after which the filesystem will be checked by e2fsck(8). If max-mount-counts is 0 or -1, the number of times the filesystem is mounted will be disregarded by e2fsck(8) and the kernel. JD PS: sorry if double post but I got from yahoo: centos@centos.org: No MX or A records for centos.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gpg agent not running
On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 12:45:16 Peter Kjellstrom wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: Can someone please remind me of the current approved way of starting gpg-agent at root? Thanks as root or at boot? Sorry - stupid typo. Yes, at boot - or login, to be more precise. I think I used to start it with an eval statement in ~/.bash_profile, but on my backup file I see that it's commented out, so I presume I was told that there is a better way. I think you'd generally want to start it via your desktop environment (gnome, kde or such). I'm not sure if there is a suggested way for a clean CentOS but with the gnupg2 package from epel you get a /etc/kde/env/gpg-agent-startup.sh file. I'm a kde person so I'd probably use .kde/env/... if my dist didn't handle it. I've also seen solutions on other dists using /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent So, sorry, no good clean answer :-( /Peter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
(Most lists have reply-to set to the individual, not the list) So apparently Directors *and* ordinary list members make mistakes. Ohh the irony :) jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 15:11 +0100, Lawrence Auster wrote: For Whom the Gaza Bell Tolls -- Part 1 By Edmund Connelly for The Occidental Observer are you kidding me? quoting David Duke? this is one of CentOS Directors? Craig No , this is called Spam ... So please let's stop discussing it ... -- -- Fabian Arrotin idea=`grep -i clue /dev/brain` ; test -z $idea echo sorry, init 6 in progress || sh ./answer.sh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:56 AM, cent osserver centoser...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: Was that REALLY called for? Couldn't you have simply filed it in /dev/null? Yes, I should have. I gave into impulse in a weak moment and then REALLY screwed up by not noticing I was replying to the list and not the individual. (Most lists have reply-to set to the individual, not the list) Sorry. If this is how you reply to people, ESPECIALLY privately, and during weak moments, your Internet privileges are hereby revoked. Your status as a decent human being isn't looking good either. Get control over yourself. Also realize that if you were to reply to someone like this in private, you are doing more damage to the community than if you did it in public. At least if you do it in public, we can rip you apart for it. A mailing list is not there to provide you with punching bags for when you have a bad day. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Brian Mathis wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:56 AM, cent osserver centoser...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: Was that REALLY called for? Couldn't you have simply filed it in / dev/null? Yes, I should have. I gave into impulse in a weak moment and then REALLY screwed up by not noticing I was replying to the list and not the individual. (Most lists have reply-to set to the individual, not the list) Sorry. If this is how you reply to people, ESPECIALLY privately, and during weak moments, your Internet privileges are hereby revoked. Your status as a decent human being isn't looking good either. Get control over yourself. Also realize that if you were to reply to someone like this in private, you are doing more damage to the community than if you did it in public. At least if you do it in public, we can rip you apart for it. A mailing list is not there to provide you with punching bags for when you have a bad day. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos The information IS in the headers, but many email programs don't show the full headers, extracting only the information that many people want (subject, TO:, CC:, etc). So if you aren't aware of it being hidden in the headers, you may not notice it. I generally look at the footers, when present, to see how to unsubscribe. And many people don't even go that far. CentOS probably should add just a little more to their footers, such as a note that the link provided is also to unsubscribe. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gpg agent not running
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 14:32:12 Peter Kjellstrom wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 12:45:16 Peter Kjellstrom wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: Can someone please remind me of the current approved way of starting gpg-agent at root? Thanks as root or at boot? Sorry - stupid typo. Yes, at boot - or login, to be more precise. I think I used to start it with an eval statement in ~/.bash_profile, but on my backup file I see that it's commented out, so I presume I was told that there is a better way. I think you'd generally want to start it via your desktop environment (gnome, kde or such). I'm not sure if there is a suggested way for a clean CentOS but with the gnupg2 package from epel you get a /etc/kde/env/gpg-agent-startup.sh file. I'm a kde person so I'd probably use .kde/env/... if my dist didn't handle it. I've also seen solutions on other dists using /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent So, sorry, no good clean answer :-( OK. Thanks for answering. I used to use ~/.kde/env, but somewhere around Fedora 6 I was told not to do that - I don't recall why. I'll experiment. It's no big deal. I was without a mail server for 24 hours as repeated power cuts depleted my ups and I saw my first really trashed system for 7 years. Everything else is working now and I can live without agent for a day or two until I find the best answer. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 13:56:10 cent osserver wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: Was that REALLY called for? Couldn't you have simply filed it in /dev/null? Yes, I should have. I gave into impulse in a weak moment and then REALLY screwed up by not noticing I was replying to the list and not the individual. (Most lists have reply-to set to the individual, not the list) So it would have been all right if you had insulted him directly, would it? Grow up! The only good thing is he probably never saw it, as some of us help people off-list with things like this. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 16:20:47 Kevin Krieser wrote: The information IS in the headers, but many email programs don't show the full headers, extracting only the information that many people want (subject, TO:, CC:, etc). So if you aren't aware of it being hidden in the headers, you may not notice it. I generally look at the footers, when present, to see how to unsubscribe. And many people don't even go that far. CentOS probably should add just a little more to their footers, such as a note that the link provided is also to unsubscribe. It's easy to find when you know, but then we're not newbies, are we? Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SELinux - null security context
Hi, 2009/1/28 Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com: I'm seeing this every hour when the hourly cron job runs NULL security context for user, but SELinux in permissive mode, continuing Try to use ps -Z to see if all your processes have appropriate security contexts. It's unlikely (impossible?) that one of them will not have, but start with that anyway. Also you can use ls -Z to see if the files have security contexts or not. Maybe start with ls -Z /etc/cron* and ls -Z /var/spool/cron/ to see if the files related to crontabs are covered. Also have a look at what semanage login -l returns, in CentOS you should have an entry for __default__ pointing to user_u and one for root pointing to root. I've tried fixfiles but obviously I'm missing something Sometimes fixfiles will not be able to do a thorough job if your system is booted and running. It's preferrable to do touch /.autorelabel and reboot the machine, that way fixfiles will run as the only process in the machine and will be able to label all files properly. Any SELinux gurus that can point me in the right direction? Far from being a guru, but maybe the information above will be useful for you to hunt the problem down. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] hdc: no DRQ after issuing MULTWRITE
I have 3 OQOs with Centos and I frequently get the following error messages:
Jan 28 13:18:07 oqo3 kernel: hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Jan 28 13:18:07 oqo3 kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
Jan 28 13:18:07 oqo3 kernel: hdc: no DRQ after issuing MULTWRITE
Jan 28 13:18:07 oqo3 kernel: ide1: reset: success
I have Fedora 10 on a fourth unit and it NEVER gets this message. I
should point out that originally I had Centos on this unit as well and
it got these errors, so this seems to be something that Centos is having
problems with that has been 'fixed' by FC10.
Any idea what can be done? They seem to be more nuance that not, but if
I am in init 3 mode and in VI and get one of these messages in the
middle of editing some file, well, I typically :q! out and start over.
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Re: [CentOS] hdc: no DRQ after issuing MULTWRITE
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Any idea what can be done? They seem to be more nuance that not, but if I am in init 3 mode and in VI and get one of these messages in the middle of editing some file, well, I typically :q! out and start over. you can use ctl-L to refresh a vim edit screen... (if you're in insert mode, hit ESC first)... beats quitting and starting over. do these errors always occur on /dev/hdc or random devices? if always /dev/hdc, is that a CD/DVD or a HD ? that OQO thing is some kinda VIA C7 or whatever? you might try disabling DMA on the /dev/hdc, like... /sbin/hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc [this would have to be put in a init file, maybe /etc/rc.d/rc.local ] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] getting Centos on used rackable systems 1U withdualOpteron 248 HE
the machines are screamer... As in sound like an industrial strength vacuum clearer? Where did you get them? What did you pay for them? I've seen similar boxes dual 3.0 GHz Xenons upgradable to 12GB RAM SATA RAID controller from an unfortunately unreliable source. -- Drew Einhorn ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] difference in x86 64 bit centos between 4.x and 5.x versions
i am new to the x86 64 bit centos versions. ive always used the 32 bit version on industrial type HP hardware for those of you that are running x86 64 bit centos, other than specific hardware issues, are you finding that 5.x centos is better than 4.x centos for x86 64 bit processing? does it matter in the amd vrs intel hardware differences what you choose to use for centos version? other things to make note of? if i need to be more specific in the general-ness of the approach, please let me know. thanks in advance for feedback. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ftp and iptables
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 21:45, Agile Aspect wrote: Robert Spangler wrote: Do you have a rule like this: -A OUTPUT --m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT No I don't. It doesn't work under CentOS 5.2. But it works on my laptop which is running Fedora 9. I don't understand why it doesn't work on your server unless you are not using STATEFUL inspection on your firewall. -- Regards Robert Linux User #296285 http://counter.li.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] difference in x86 64 bit centos between 4.x and 5.x versions
RobertH wrote: i am new to the x86 64 bit centos versions. ive always used the 32 bit version on industrial type HP hardware for those of you that are running x86 64 bit centos, other than specific hardware issues, are you finding that 5.x centos is better than 4.x centos for x86 64 bit processing? does it matter in the amd vrs intel hardware differences what you choose to use for centos version? other things to make note of? if i need to be more specific in the general-ness of the approach, please let me know. thanks in advance for feedback. the first generation of Intel Xeon's (based on P4 Prescott) that supported x86_64 were only slightly faster in 64bit mode than in 32bit mode, while the AMD Opterons were considerably faster. the newer Intel Xeons (based on Core2Duo) are quite a bit better. the latest Intel CPUs are generally faster at most/many things than AMD's CPUs, however, AMDs CPUs may still do better at scientific type programming that can't take advantage of the SSE3/etc 'dsp' style functions. Servers are as much a function of memory and IO bandwidth as anything, so there's many factors. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ftp and iptables
Robert Spangler wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 21:45, Agile Aspect wrote: Robert Spangler wrote: Do you have a rule like this: -A OUTPUT --m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT No I don't. It doesn't work under CentOS 5.2. But it works on my laptop which is running Fedora 9. I don't understand why it doesn't work on your server unless you are not using STATEFUL inspection on your firewall. Use /usr/sbin/system-config-network-tui to generate a template iptables file and then add the syntax in question. It won't load. You'll have to re-write it. In short, it's syntax sugar. It doesn't work in CentOS 5.2 but it works on laptop which running Fedora 9. It's hard to imagine iptables not being stateful if you're using the key words NEW, ESTABLISHED, and RELATED. -- Article. VI. Clause 3 of the constitution of the United States states: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Political Spam sent through several CentOS mailing lists
The CentOS team likes to offer an apology for the political spam mails which went through our mail servers earlier today. Due to the nature of mailing list software for public discussion groups, there aren't that many security measures which can be taken to check which mails are supposed to get through and which mails aren't. Total safety can only be had by a moderation of all lists - and that is not where we want to go. The spammer today faked the identity of a CentOS core developer and thus got through on all mailing lists. That these mails also got through the moderated centos-announce list was an oversight in the configuration of that list which has been fixed now. The CentOS team does not condone such behaviour and does not wish to support any political agenda through the mailing lists of the Project - in case you had wondered. Regards, Ralph Angenendt pgpgEYh8pDlHM.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 16:20:47 Kevin Krieser wrote: The information IS in the headers, but many email programs don't show the full headers, extracting only the information that many people want (subject, TO:, CC:, etc). So if you aren't aware of it being hidden in the headers, you may not notice it. I generally look at the footers, when present, to see how to unsubscribe. And many people don't even go that far. CentOS probably should add just a little more to their footers, such as a note that the link provided is also to unsubscribe. It's easy to find when you know, but then we're not newbies, are we? Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I've been on several different lists, on and off, so I am not a newbie here. And even then, unless I remembered, I probably wouldn't think of looking at the normally hidden headers. Now when there is a footer added that says to unsubscribe, send a message to a specified address, it can be frustrating. But I guess it works, a list manager will probably remove the poster. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] difference in x86 64 bit centos between 4.x and 5.x versions
On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:41 PM, RobertH wrote: i am new to the x86 64 bit centos versions. ive always used the 32 bit version on industrial type HP hardware for those of you that are running x86 64 bit centos, other than specific hardware issues, are you finding that 5.x centos is better than 4.x centos for x86 64 bit processing? does it matter in the amd vrs intel hardware differences what you choose to use for centos version? other things to make note of? if i need to be more specific in the general-ness of the approach, please let me know. thanks in advance for feedback. - rh My opinion is to first determine a few issues. How much RAM will it need? If over 3GB of physical RAM, consider 64 bit. Are there third party applications you need to run on it? If they are 64 bit, that answers the question too. If 32 bit, are they supported on 64 bit OS? Do they have different versions for 32 and 64 bit? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Political Spam sent through several CentOS mailing lists
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote: The CentOS team likes to offer an apology for the political spam mails which went through our mail servers earlier today. Due to the nature of mailing list software for public discussion groups, there aren't that many security measures which can be taken to check which mails are supposed to get through and which mails aren't. Total safety can only be had by a moderation of all lists - and that is not where we want to go. We have set up Mailman to use the Spamassassin spamd program to check incoming messages before any other tests are done. This probably would not have done any good though for these messages as the were passed into my bulk mail folder here after our local Spamassassin checks so they had a score = 4.00 which is my personal cutoff at which point they go into the spam folder. The Mailman lists we host are all subscriber-only, as I believe the CentOS lists are, but this doesn't do any good if the sender trivially forges the Sender and/or From: headers. Some spam is going to get through to a mailing list regardless of the anti-spam measures taken (I have accidentally approved spam that was forwarded to me for moderation). The only thing is to remember the short version of the Serenity Prayer -- ``sh*t happens''. Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 If you want government to intervene domestically, you're a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you're a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you're a moderate. If you don't want government to intervene anywhere, you're an extremist -- Joseph Sobran ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Political Spam sent through several CentOS mailing lists
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:07:44 -0800 Bill Campbell cen...@celestial.com wrote: Some spam is going to get through to a mailing list regardless of the anti-spam measures taken (I have accidentally approved spam that was forwarded to me for moderation). The only thing is to remember the short version of the Serenity Prayer -- ``sh*t happens''. Or you can use my newly patented device: Press the Delete key -- Thanks http://www.911networks.com When the network has to work ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Political Spam sent through several CentOS mailing lists
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009, cen...@911networks.com wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:07:44 -0800 Bill Campbell cen...@celestial.com wrote: Some spam is going to get through to a mailing list regardless of the anti-spam measures taken (I have accidentally approved spam that was forwarded to me for moderation). The only thing is to remember the short version of the Serenity Prayer -- ``sh*t happens''. Or you can use my newly patented device: Press the Delete key Actually I press the ``S'' key which is a mutt macro that saves the message in a Maildir folder which is then send to the Spamassassin sa-learn program to update my bayesian filters. I get lots of spam to my totally unfiltered role folders for mail to support, postmaster, and abuse, all of which goes to feed sa-learn. Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 People who relieve others of their money with guns are called robbers. It does not alter the immorality of the act when the income transfer is carried out by government. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Kevin Krieser k_krie...@sbcglobal.netwrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 16:20:47 Kevin Krieser wrote: The information IS in the headers, but many email programs don't show the full headers, extracting only the information that many people want (subject, TO:, CC:, etc). So if you aren't aware of it being hidden in the headers, you may not notice it. I generally look at the footers, when present, to see how to unsubscribe. And many people don't even go that far. CentOS probably should add just a little more to their footers, such as a note that the link provided is also to unsubscribe. It's easy to find when you know, but then we're not newbies, are we? Anne I've been on several different lists, on and off, so I am not a newbie here. And even then, unless I remembered, I probably wouldn't think of looking at the normally hidden headers. Now when there is a footer added that says to unsubscribe, send a message to a specified address, it can be frustrating. But I guess it works, a list manager will probably remove the poster. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Who cares about the headers every single message from the list has a footer appended to it with the information about the list. Click on the link and it tells you how to unsubscribe. Not to mention that, but once a month I get an email from the mailing list telling me about my subscription and how to log in and make changes to my subscription. -matt http://www.sysadminvalley.com http://www.beantownhost.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboston Bill Cosby - A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SELinux - null security context
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: Hi, 2009/1/28 Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com: I'm seeing this every hour when the hourly cron job runs NULL security context for user, but SELinux in permissive mode, continuing Try to use ps -Z to see if all your processes have appropriate security contexts. It's unlikely (impossible?) that one of them will not have, but start with that anyway. All OK Also you can use ls -Z to see if the files have security contexts or not. Maybe start with ls -Z /etc/cron* and ls -Z /var/spool/cron/ to see if the files related to crontabs are covered. Also have a look at what semanage login -l returns, in CentOS you should have an entry for __default__ pointing to user_u and one for root pointing to root. All ok I've tried fixfiles but obviously I'm missing something Sometimes fixfiles will not be able to do a thorough job if your system is booted and running. It's preferrable to do touch /.autorelabel and reboot the machine, that way fixfiles will run as the only process in the machine and will be able to label all files properly. Last resort was the 'touch /.autorelabel' and reboot. This took nearly an hour but once it came up all was well. Thanks for the pointers Filipe. At what point would it be safe to go to enforcing? What logs should I be inspecting for warnings? I find SELinux real hard to get my head around, extensive reading and still I don't get it clearly enough to where I understand it and feel safe committing my business server to it. And when something like this occurs and it takes the server down for an hour to clean it up not really production ready. I'm getting ready to head for PCI-DSS audit and thought SELinux enforcing would be a help..any comments from those with more experience?? Any SELinux gurus that can point me in the right direction? Far from being a guru, but maybe the information above will be useful for you to hunt the problem down. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:rkam...@kampensonline.com tel;home:407-876-4854 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SELinux - null security context
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 23:00 -0500, Rob Kampen wrote: Last resort was the 'touch /.autorelabel' and reboot. This took nearly an hour but once it came up all was well. Thanks for the pointers Filipe. At what point would it be safe to go to enforcing? What logs should I be inspecting for warnings? I find SELinux real hard to get my head around, extensive reading and still I don't get it clearly enough to where I understand it and feel safe committing my business server to it. And when something like this occurs and it takes the server down for an hour to clean it up not really production ready. I'm getting ready to head for PCI-DSS audit and thought SELinux enforcing would be a help..any comments from those with more experience?? you shouldn't have to relabel a filesystem unless you had turned SELinux off for a while. So that shouldn't be necessary again. I also gathered that the RHEL 5.3 release has a bunch of the newer tools from virtually current Fedora like SETroubleShooter which should make life a lot easier. I gather that CentOS 5.3 will be released in the next week or so and I would probably wait until you have it running fine for a week or two in permissive mode and have squashed any alerts and you should be good to move to enforcing. Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SELinux - null security context
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 23:00 -0500, Rob Kampen wrote: Last resort was the 'touch /.autorelabel' and reboot. This took nearly an hour but once it came up all was well. Thanks for the pointers Filipe. At what point would it be safe to go to enforcing? What logs should I be inspecting for warnings? I find SELinux real hard to get my head around, extensive reading and still I don't get it clearly enough to where I understand it and feel safe committing my business server to it. And when something like this occurs and it takes the server down for an hour to clean it up not really production ready. I'm getting ready to head for PCI-DSS audit and thought SELinux enforcing would be a help..any comments from those with more experience?? you shouldn't have to relabel a filesystem unless you had turned SELinux off for a while. So that shouldn't be necessary again. I also gathered that the RHEL 5.3 release has a bunch of the newer tools from virtually current Fedora like SETroubleShooter which should make life a lot easier. I gather that CentOS 5.3 will be released in the next week or so and I would probably wait until you have it running fine for a week or two in permissive mode and have squashed any alerts and you should be good to move to enforcing. Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I have five other machines that will be updated to 5.3 prior to risking this server, once they're all going okay I'll move to this one. Thanks for the pointers Craig. One thing I have learned is that mv is not very safe, cp is better - particularly across directories. I will need to play with SETroubleShooter. I have not used SELinux on my work-stations / laptops, and only leave it in permissive mode on my servers, thus I don't really have somewhere to play with it. Does anyone use SELinux on their work-station i.e. the place where you try things out, debug things etc?? or is it really only for stable systems where not many OS changes and new program trials occur? I know that asterisk doesn't play nice with SELinux, even in permissive mode it fails to work, and yet this is one area where I would like to have it work as my phone system is VITAL to my business! Thanks Rob begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:rkam...@kampensonline.com tel;home:407-876-4854 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] mod_bandwidth
Is there a compiled mod_bandwidth rpm in CentOS or EPEL? I can't seem to find it, what name does it use if there is one? Basically all I need to do is find a way to severely throttle apache for testing an upload progress bar - my bandwidth on my lan is too fast, the progress bar either only gets one update or none by the time the files are uploaded (5 8 megapixel jpegs) - even when I use my laptop over wireless - so I need to limit the bandwidth apache accepts severely to simulate real world conditions. I assume mod_bandwidth can limit the post bandwidth as well (what apache eats)? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
