Re: [CentOS-docs] [Centos-moderators] Release Note translation for CentOS 5.3
Manuel Wolfshant wrote: PS: my guts say that slide 5 (in Il team di sviluppo di CentOS, testa ogni pacchetto presente in questo repository, che sono prodotti su CentOS =VERSION=, e ne verifica il funzionamento.) has a couple of extra commas, but I have to talk with my friend first. AFAIK placing a comma between the subject and the verb (i.e. before testa == tests) is not OK. And neither is the one before the 'e (as in , e ne verifica [...] == and verifies [...] ). I fully trust you there :) Thanks! Cheers, Ralph pgp2Eg17UzXhF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Anaconda Slide Translation Guide
Dear Ralph, I think the background color in rhgb is off, but that can be fixed if I get the correct RGB values for TreeFlower Backgrounds. I would suggest to use: #204C8D R: 32 G: 76 B:141 Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Anaconda Slide Translation Guide
Hi again, btw. are you going to prepate the desktop-backgrounds-basic package, too? Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Anaconda Slide Translation Guide
Marcus Moeller wrote: Hi again, btw. are you going to prepate the desktop-backgrounds-basic package, too? Already done. But I forgot to put those into svn :-/ Will do so in a minute. Cheers, Ralph pgpHwUyNHcUTF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Anaconda Slide Translation Guide
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Marcus Moeller wrote: Hi again, btw. are you going to prepate the desktop-backgrounds-basic package, too? Already done. But I forgot to put those into svn :-/ Will do so in a minute. Coming up in a few minutes is the last change before I put the anaconda slides in: New rhgb package with different colors and new redhat-logos package including a KDE splash screen. This one has to be installed with --replacepkgs, as I didn't change the EVR on that. Please test and report any errors you see. I'm waiting for two translations and then will package the final src.rpms - except if you find errors. Cheers, Ralph pgpu6QfvOTble.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-virt] CentOS 5.2 (x86_64) : 64 bit HVM VM fails.
hi I am trying to do an installation of 64 bit HVM from a CDROM, the Dom0 is 64 bit. I am getting pae not supported !! (as a side note, failure on RHEL 5.2 is different 'long not supported on your cpu, use a 32-bit version' .. cpu is 64 bit AMD and so is Dom0) Do I need to tweak anything ? Thanks /Jd ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-es] Bacula
Hola En el trabajo hemos estado probando bacula, Con respecto a la configuracion, es algo enrredado desde mi punto de vista, no encontre mucha informacion en español... Permite hacer resapldos full, incrementales y diferenciales. Aunque hemos probado solo con pocas maquinas, funciona bien, en los respaldos de linux puedes eleguir que respaldar y que excluir, en los respaldos de windows por ejemplo: respaldamos el perfil de un usuario pero no hemos podido excluir por ejemplo los temporales... El respaldo completo de de un perfil de nuestors usuarios de win es aprox 2 GB. NO lo hemos probado ni con cintas ni con dvd asi que no podria darte una opinion.. y solo con perfiles de usuarios que es para lo que lo queremos. Mi recomendacion es leer bien la documentacion antesde empezar y entender como funciona http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/What_is_Bacula.html#SECTION00421000http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/What_is_Bacula.html#SECTION00422000http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/What_is_Bacula.html#SECTION00423000http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/What_is_Bacula.html#SECTION00424000http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/What_is_Bacula.html#SECTION00425000http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/What_is_Bacula.html#SECTION00426000bacula director, storage, catalog. Espero te ayude... Atte. Mario Ganga Castro. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM, César Sepúlveda kropotki...@gmail.comwrote: Hola lista, ¿alguien de aquí, tiene corriendo bacula, como servidor sobre centos 5?. ¿Qué tal al experiencia?, ¿Alguna recomendación en especial para correr bacula sobre centos 5? Saludos! ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] mod_bandwidth
Michael A. Peters napsal(a): Is there a compiled mod_bandwidth rpm in CentOS or EPEL? I can't seem to find it, what name does it use if there is one? Basically all I need to do is find a way to severely throttle apache for testing an upload progress bar - my bandwidth on my lan is too fast, the progress bar either only gets one update or none by the time the files are uploaded (5 8 megapixel jpegs) - even when I use my laptop over wireless - so I need to limit the bandwidth apache accepts severely to simulate real world conditions. I assume mod_bandwidth can limit the post bandwidth as well (what apache eats)? Hi, mod_bandwidth is for Apache 1.x only, so there's no rpm for Centos 4/5. You have to use some other module, like mod_{bw,bwshare,cband}, etc. See: http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb/stable/i386/repodata/repoview/M.group.html http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb/stable/x86_64/repodata/repoview/M.group.html http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el5/hrb/stable/i386/repodata/repoview/M.group.html http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el5/hrb/stable/x86_64/repodata/repoview/M.group.html Regards, David Hrbáč ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
On Thursday 29 January 2009 01:43:42 Matt Shields wrote: Now when there is a footer added that says to unsubscribe, send a message to a specified address, it can be frustrating. But I guess it works, a list manager will probably remove the poster. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Who cares about the headers every single message from the list has a footer appended to it with the information about the list. Click on the link and it tells you how to unsubscribe. Not to mention that, but once a month I get an email from the mailing list telling me about my subscription and how to log in and make changes to my subscription. Look again, though. The footer has links, but it doesn't say 'Unsubscribe or change options'. I agree that the info is there on the welcome letter, but how many people save it? This is not just a centos problem - all lists seem to suffer from it. I think just adding that phrase into the footer would help - though again it seems human nature to skip over footers, particularly as we are used to seeing sigs that have no interest to us. Anne Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Matt Shields Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:44 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe Who cares about the headers every single message from the list has a footer appended to it with the information about the list. Click on the link and it tells you how to unsubscribe. If an unsubscribe message sent to the list causes so much hiatus as now, why not make it simple for all involved and just add an unsubscribe link in the footer, as several subscribers have already mentioned, and be rid of all this... It's not completely obvious that all list-info, incl how to unsub, is available if you follow the link in the footer. At least not for a technology challenged CTO or whatever he/she was. ;-) Just my opinion... -- /Sorin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SELinux - null security context
On 1/29/09, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote: . Does anyone use SELinux on their work-station i.e. the place where you try things out, debug things etc?? or is it really only for stable systems where not many OS changes and new program trials occur? I know that asterisk doesn't play nice with SELinux, even in permissive mode it fails to work, and yet this is one area where I would like to have it work as my phone system is VITAL to my business! Thanks Rob We use SELinux on both our workstations and our servers. We run them in permissive mode for a while, do our testing and then switch to enforcing once we have cleared up any denials. Run tests then if it all looks good , put the boxen into production. Audit2allow and other such tools are very useful in creating any policy changes that you require and the selinux mailling lists are helpful as well. The main thing i have been caught out with is when using tftp to transfer configs from our cisco kit to my workstation in that when i touch the file i need to set the correct context for it. Russell Coker's site is a good place for selinux info http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ mike ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
Miss Mailers anyone? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/mail/miss-mailers/ mike ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] hdc: no DRQ after issuing MULTWRITE
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Robert Moskowitz Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 5:30 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] hdc: no DRQ after issuing MULTWRITE Any idea what can be done? They seem to be more nuance that not, but if I am in init 3 mode and in VI and get one of these messages in the middle of editing some file, well, I typically :q! out and start over. man dmesg suggests that running the command `dmesg -n1' should stop you getting messages on the console other than panic messages! But all in all, you probably want to fix the issue to avoid filling up your logs with crap messages; for that, I have no solution! Cheers, AK. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More than 2TB RAID...
Anyway, I managed and am currently extending the array to the 12 disks... It seems that it is going to take around 3 days! Maybe because the cache battery is not fully charged and so the writes are not cached... After that, I need to reduce the boot logical disk down to a dozen of GBs. And then, I need to create the other(s) logical disk(s). FYI, I found out hpacucli cannot reduce the size of a logical disk; even if there is 99% of unpartioned space... :/ So, since my boss wants a clean install, I started over and chose option 2: a CentOS external USB disk + hpacucli installed on it... JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Knoppix won't let me write to emergency drive
I appear to have lost the whole of my home directory on my centos server (which includes all my mail saved from the last 7 years). Although I have recent backups of most data I would like to copy important files from /etc, and, if possible, /var/logs so that I can try to find out what went wrong. However, knoppix refuses to let me write to either my usb hdd or usb pendrive. Does anyone know how to persuade it? Thanks Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Knoppix won't let me write to emergency drive
However, knoppix refuses to let me write to either my usb hdd or usb pendrive. Does anyone know how to persuade it? Remount rw as root? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Knoppix won't let me write to emergency drive
Hi Have a look here http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=97328 Per On 1/29/09 3:15 PM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: I appear to have lost the whole of my home directory on my centos server (which includes all my mail saved from the last 7 years). Although I have recent backups of most data I would like to copy important files from /etc, and, if possible, /var/logs so that I can try to find out what went wrong. However, knoppix refuses to let me write to either my usb hdd or usb pendrive. Does anyone know how to persuade it? Thanks Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Knoppix won't let me write to emergency drive
2009/1/29 Per Qvindesland p...@norhex.com: Hi Have a look here http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=97328 Per On 1/29/09 3:15 PM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: I appear to have lost the whole of my home directory on my centos server (which includes all my mail saved from the last 7 years). Although I have recent backups of most data I would like to copy important files from /etc, and, if possible, /var/logs so that I can try to find out what went wrong. However, knoppix refuses to let me write to either my usb hdd or usb pendrive. Does anyone know how to persuade it? Thanks, both of you. I'll follow that up if necessary. At present I'm in CentOS Rescue mode. It looks as though all my files are there, but I'm still trying to find out what went wrong and the best way to tackle it. I'll start a new thread. Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
Since repeated power cuts last week I've been a bit worried about the state of my server. Today it spontaneously rebooted - but failed to complete. Now it isn't recognising me as a user, by the look of it, so I've got some questions before I do something that might make things worse. I can boot as root, and it appears that all my files are present. System-config-user sees me as user 500, which is correct, so it must be my kde login that is trashed. Foolishly, I didn't install a second desktop system, so I can't deal with things there. While waiting for a reply I'm going to try to get essential files from my home directory onto an external disk (I did a huge backup yesterday of data files). I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. This is the information I gathered from /var/log/messages: shows a host of setroubleshoot messages, culminating in SELinux is preventing dovecot (dovecot_t) append to /var/log/mail/mail.info (sendmail_log_t). For complete SELinux messages run. then syslogd 1.4.1:restart no reason given. Everything then continues as normal until suddenly EXT3-fs error (device sda7): ext3_lookup: unlinked inode 638978 in dir #638977. Lots of 'Last message repeated' messages, and eventualy it shut down. I did allow fsk to run when I restarted the box. That doesn't seem a lot to go on. Any advice? Thanks Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] difference in x86 64 bit centos between 4.x and 5.xversions
My opinion is to first determine a few issues. How much RAM will it need? If over 3GB of physical RAM, consider 64 bit. Are there third party applications you need to run on it? If they are 64 bit, that answers the question too. If 32 bit, are they supported on 64 bit OS? Do they have different versions for 32 and 64 bit? lots of good info to ponder back from those that responded. what i a getting at is, why would one use x86 64 bit Centos version 4.7 when one can get the same in x86 64bit Centos 5.2 or later version? is there a reason to stay with the older version other than for specific deprecated hardware issues or something else? is 64 bit Centos 5 just plain better OR would some of you choose 4.7 over 5.x and why? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: snip I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. snip Most hdd manufacturers have bootable CD images you can download which have utilities and thorough diagnostics. -- Jeff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] it's that time again - lj rca's
it is that time again to let your choices be known in one of the mainstream journals http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/readers-choice-awards - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] getting Centos on used rackable sys tems 1U with dual Opteron 248 HE
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org]on Behalf Of RobertH Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:04 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: [CentOS] getting Centos on used rackable systems 1U with dual Opteron 248 HE hi there. anyone have any tips on params to pass to the kernel etc in order to install Centos4 or Centos5 32bit or 64 bit installed on this unit [snip] for this case, please assume for now that the hardware itself is not bad thanks in advance... [david] Have you checked install logs for error messages? During install it is displayed on one of the virtual consoles. Not sure which. One of the Install User Guides documents the purpose of each one used and the key combinations [david] needed to switch between them. I think it's ALT+(something)+Fn(n=1...). You can also boot from the live CD to run diagnostics. David Ross - rh Rackable Systems Dual Opteron 2.0 GHz 1U Half-Depth Server General Features: No Server Operating System Dual AMD Opteron 246 HE (OSK246CMP5AU) 2.0 GHz processors 4 GB DDR RAM 120 GB IDE hard drive ATI Rage XL integrated video Broadcom BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet Motherboard Features: AMD-8111 chipset One (1) PCI-X riser slot Eight (8) DDR DIMM sockets Front I/O Ports: Two (2) PS/2 ports One (1) 15-pin VGA port One (1) 9-pin serial port Two (2) USB ports Two (2) RJ-45 Ethernet jacks Case Features: 1U half-depth server chassis One (1) 3.5-inch drive bay Four rear cooling fans 400-watt power supply ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ No viruses found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.4 http://www.iolo.com ___ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.4 http://www.iolo.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. try smartctl to see what the monitors have been finding for you. man smartctl Alex === -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Avantel Systems, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] hdc: no DRQ after issuing MULTWRITE
John R Pierce wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Any idea what can be done? They seem to be more nuance that not, but if I am in init 3 mode and in VI and get one of these messages in the middle of editing some file, well, I typically :q! out and start over. you can use ctl-L to refresh a vim edit screen... (if you're in insert mode, hit ESC first)... beats quitting and starting over. Now I just have to remember that when I am using vi. I actually use vi a lot, but just for simple editing... do these errors always occur on /dev/hdc or random devices? if always /dev/hdc, is that a CD/DVD or a HD ? that OQO thing is some kinda VIA C7 or whatever? you might try disabling DMA on the /dev/hdc, like... hdc is the ONLY media regularly in the unit. Only used CD for the install, and only occationally a usb drive. And yes it is a VIA-based system. And disabling DMA results in what? No dma errors, slower seek/write times, bad things on kernel panics? /sbin/hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc [this would have to be put in a init file, maybe /etc/rc.d/rc.local ] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham alex-qMVNeVs1MAKw5LPnMra/2...@public.gmane.org: On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. try smartctl to see what the monitors have been finding for you. man smartctl Thanks. I'd been trying to remember what command I needed for that :-) The short test has completed without errors. I'll run the long test during dinner. Assuming that that also runs without errors, I guess that the next thing is memtest? More suggestions? Thanks Anne If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and fixing corrupted files.. I would install to a new drive, and then you can take some time recovering from the old drive as you find things missing. That way you will still have the old system for whatever might come up. I always seem to find something that didn't get backed up properly. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY
It is widely known that Quickbooks has a horrible storage engine, requires Windows to host multiuser access, etc. However, I've successfully been storing QuickBooks files on Samba shares at a handful of locations with no real issues other than slight performance degradation. However, a somewhat recent thread here mentioned the proper use of oplock'ing in the Samba configuration to considerably increase performance/reliability. Could someone please share any hints/tips on configuring Samba for optimum use with QuickBooks? I have one server in particular that appears to be suffering performance problems with QuickBooks but runs lightning fast with all other applications. If I recall, and as the subject mentions, I believe the key lies with the oplock settings. Thanks! Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OFF Topic - Looking for web based file management application for law firm clients
Hi All: I am working with a law firm that would like to offer to it's clients the ability to access their documents through a web interface. This would require a nice gui to offer the clients with a simple process for the clients to download from. It would also need to be secure (authentication SSL), and mandatory disclaimer acceptance before logging into their account. Anyone with experience or thoughts on this matter? Thanks, Ed ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: It is widely known that Quickbooks has a horrible storage engine, requires Windows to host multiuser access, etc. However, I've successfully been storing QuickBooks files on Samba shares at a handful of locations with no real issues other than slight performance degradation. However, a somewhat recent thread here mentioned the proper use of oplock'ing in the Samba configuration to considerably increase performance/reliability. I am able to host all files other than Quickbooks on Samba shares. The issue with QuickBooks is they run their own WIndows service on port 10172 in addition to Windows file sharing. If someone has figured out a way around this, I would prefer to host multiple user QuickBooks access on Samba. Brett ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 47, Issue 11
Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-annou...@centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-requ...@centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-ow...@centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest... Today's Topics: 1. Political Spam sent through several CentOSmailing lists (Ralph Angenendt) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:13:09 +0100 From: Ralph Angenendt ra...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] Political Spam sent through several CentOS mailing lists To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 20090129001309.gl74...@br-online.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The CentOS team likes to offer an apology for the political spam mails which went through our mail servers earlier today. Due to the nature of mailing list software for public discussion groups, there aren't that many security measures which can be taken to check which mails are supposed to get through and which mails aren't. Total safety can only be had by a moderation of all lists - and that is not where we want to go. The spammer today faked the identity of a CentOS core developer and thus got through on all mailing lists. That these mails also got through the moderated centos-announce list was an oversight in the configuration of that list which has been fixed now. The CentOS team does not condone such behaviour and does not wish to support any political agenda through the mailing lists of the Project - in case you had wondered. Regards, Ralph Angenendt -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 194 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/attachments/20090129/0466094d/attachment-0001.bin -- ___ CentOS-announce mailing list centos-annou...@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 47, Issue 11 *** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Thursday 29 January 2009 11:37:00 am Scott Silva wrote: If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and fixing corrupted files.. I would install to a new drive, and then you can take some time recovering from the old drive as you find things missing. That way you will still have the old system for whatever might come up. I always seem to find something that didn't get backed up properly. Since you can log in as root, a less drastic first step might be to: Change your runlevel (as root) to 3 and try a text login (as you) for access to your files. man init If the kde files are trashed, perhaps you can create another user on the system and copy over your personal files, or do a diff to see which kde files might have been trashed. If it really looks bad (disk bad and/or major file corruption) , then I agree that a new install might be the way to go but that's significant pain . . . Alex === -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Avantel Systems, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
2009/1/29 Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com: on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham alex-qMVNeVs1MAKw5LPnMra/2...@public.gmane.org: On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. try smartctl to see what the monitors have been finding for you. man smartctl Thanks. I'd been trying to remember what command I needed for that :-) The short test has completed without errors. I'll run the long test during dinner. Assuming that that also runs without errors, I guess that the next thing is memtest? More suggestions? Thanks Anne If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and fixing corrupted files.. I would install to a new drive, and then you can take some time recovering from the old drive as you find things missing. That way you will still have the old system for whatever might come up. I always seem to find something that didn't get backed up properly. Two days ago I discovered that the failures had indeed totally trashed the system. I did re-install, formatting only / and /boot, but I've had a couple of these spontaneous shutdowns since then, which is why I suspected hardware failure. I've got copies of just about everything, I think, on an external drive, and I could try another drive as you suggest, mounting the old one in an external case, which I have. I can cope with this, but I'm deeply unhappy about not knowing what happened, and whether it is likely to happen again. Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
Use Spinrite from www.grc.com It will work on any file system I have used it on Windows - Ubuntu Linux - and even an X-Box Works wonders Franklin S Werren Scott Silva wrote: on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham alex-qMVNeVs1MAKw5LPnMra/2...@public.gmane.org: On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. try smartctl to see what the monitors have been finding for you. man smartctl Thanks. I'd been trying to remember what command I needed for that :-) The short test has completed without errors. I'll run the long test during dinner. Assuming that that also runs without errors, I guess that the next thing is memtest? More suggestions? Thanks Anne If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and fixing corrupted files.. I would install to a new drive, and then you can take some time recovering from the old drive as you find things missing. That way you will still have the old system for whatever might come up. I always seem to find something that didn't get backed up properly. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos begin:vcard fn:Franklin S Werren n:Werren;Franklin S org:Frank's Radio / Chautauqua Lake Hosting adr:4017 Sherman Ripley Rd;;PO Box 966;Sherman;NY;14781-0966;USA email;internet:ad...@chautauqualake.net title:Owner tel;work:716-753-3500 note;quoted-printable:Confidentiality Note: This email and any attachments are confidential= and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) onl= y. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately= and remove the email and any attachments from your system without storin= g, disclosing or copying all, or any part of it. The content of this emai= l and attachments may contain data that falls within the scope of the Dat= a Protection Act 1998. The unauthorized opening, use, recording, disclosu= re, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden under the= Data Protection Act 1998.=0D=0A= = =0D=0A= - url:www.chautauqualake.net version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
2009/1/29 Franklin S Werren ad...@chautauqualake.net: Use Spinrite from www.grc.com It will work on any file system I have used it on Windows - Ubuntu Linux - and even an X-Box Works wonders Data recovery isn't a problem - I've copied everything off. Still, I've bookmarked that, just in case. It's lucky I don't have just one box :-) Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham a...@avantel.ca: On Thursday 29 January 2009 11:37:00 am Scott Silva wrote: If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and fixing corrupted files.. I would install to a new drive, and then you can take some time recovering from the old drive as you find things missing. That way you will still have the old system for whatever might come up. I always seem to find something that didn't get backed up properly. Since you can log in as root, a less drastic first step might be to: Change your runlevel (as root) to 3 and try a text login (as you) for access to your files. man init If the kde files are trashed, perhaps you can create another user on the system and copy over your personal files, or do a diff to see which kde files might have been trashed. If it really looks bad (disk bad and/or major file corruption) , then I agree that a new install might be the way to go but that's significant pain . . . Yes, I'll try that first - if I can convince myself that the hardware is OK. I really wish I know what caused it, though. Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
on 1-29-2009 9:02 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com: on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham alex-qMVNeVs1MAKw5LPnMra/2q-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org: On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. try smartctl to see what the monitors have been finding for you. man smartctl Thanks. I'd been trying to remember what command I needed for that :-) The short test has completed without errors. I'll run the long test during dinner. Assuming that that also runs without errors, I guess that the next thing is memtest? More suggestions? Thanks Anne If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and fixing corrupted files.. I would install to a new drive, and then you can take some time recovering from the old drive as you find things missing. That way you will still have the old system for whatever might come up. I always seem to find something that didn't get backed up properly. Two days ago I discovered that the failures had indeed totally trashed the system. I did re-install, formatting only / and /boot, but I've had a couple of these spontaneous shutdowns since then, which is why I suspected hardware failure. I've got copies of just about everything, I think, on an external drive, and I could try another drive as you suggest, mounting the old one in an external case, which I have. I can cope with this, but I'm deeply unhappy about not knowing what happened, and whether it is likely to happen again. Anne Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. My first guesses would be the system power supply or the CPU fan. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
on 1-29-2009 9:28 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. Anne Since you have other systems, maybe you could hang something on the serial port and get the kernel messages there to see if you get any other info that might not be making it to the logs. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
Anne Wilson wrote: . . . I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague. I just fixed a test box that kept getting something like received INT 11 - no one cared and then locks up. Replaced two caps - I yanked them from some old, defunct power supplies. -- tkb ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OFF Topic - Looking for web based file management application for law firm clients
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:45:25 -0800 Ed Morrison wrote: I am working with a law firm that would like to offer to it's clients the ability to access their documents through a web interface. This would require a nice gui to offer the clients with a simple process for the clients to download from. It would also need to be secure (authentication SSL), and mandatory disclaimer acceptance before logging into their account. Anyone with experience or thoughts on this matter? If you find something really clever to do this, I would be very interested in what it is. I was just asked (yesterday afternoon) about setting up something similar to that for a government office. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OFF Topic - Looking for web based file management application for law firm clients
on 1-29-2009 8:45 AM Ed Morrison spake the following: Hi All: I am working with a law firm that would like to offer to it's clients the ability to access their documents through a web interface. This would require a nice gui to offer the clients with a simple process for the clients to download from. It would also need to be secure (authentication SSL), and mandatory disclaimer acceptance before logging into their account. Anyone with experience or thoughts on this matter? Thanks, Ed I saw an article recently about the Swiss Federal courts using Alfresco for something like this. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OFF Topic - Looking for web based file management application for law firm clients
On 29-Jan-09, at 10:09 AM, Scott Silva wrote: on 1-29-2009 8:45 AM Ed Morrison spake the following: Hi All: I am working with a law firm that would like to offer to it's clients the ability to access their documents through a web interface. This would require a nice gui to offer the clients with a simple process for the clients to download from. It would also need to be secure (authentication SSL), and mandatory disclaimer acceptance before logging into their account. Anyone with experience or thoughts on this matter? Thanks, Ed I saw an article recently about the Swiss Federal courts using Alfresco for something like this. Knowledge Tree was the other i was looking at. d ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
2009/1/29 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. My first guesses would be the system power supply or the CPU fan. I'm beginning to think that way. The smartctl long test has completed without errors. I think that I'll dig out the specs for the mobo/cpu tonight, then buy a new PSU and CPU fan in the morning. Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Brett Serkez Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:55 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: It is widely known that Quickbooks has a horrible storage engine, requires Windows to host multiuser access, etc. However, I've successfully been storing QuickBooks files on Samba shares at a handful of locations with no real issues other than slight performance degradation. However, a somewhat recent thread here mentioned the proper use of oplock'ing in the Samba configuration to considerably increase performance/reliability. I am able to host all files other than Quickbooks on Samba shares. The issue with QuickBooks is they run their own WIndows service on port 10172 in addition to Windows file sharing. We run QB Pro 2003, and it does not listen on any ports. We also have it on a samba share. Unsure about the perfomance, but it works for us. If someone has figured out a way around this, I would prefer to host multiple user QuickBooks access on Samba. Brett ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Question on script
Hi all, I am trying to extract from the aplay -l output the Card and Device numbers. I had a script that was working but found another motherboard that has an EXTRA word. HDA Nvidia and HDA ATI HDMI is what I am talking about below. how do I search for a line that has HDMI (which I know how to do), then ignore everything upto the device work and take the next field after that? Thanks, Jerry I was doing this but it does not work for both cases. AUDIO_HDMI=`aplay -l | grep -c HDMI` if [ $AUDIO_HDMI -ge 1 ] then AUDIO_DEVICE=`aplay -l | grep HDMI | grep device | grep -m 1 -v device 0 | tr -d ':' | cut -d ' ' -f 8` AUDIO_CARD=`aplay -l | grep HDMI | grep device | grep -m 1 -v device 0 | tr -d ':' | cut -d ' ' -f 2` sed 0,/hw:/s/hw:.*/hw:$AUDIO_CARD,$AUDIO_DEVICE\/ /etc/asound.conf tt.txt mv tt.txt /etc/asound.conf card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: NVIDIA HDMI [NVIDIA HDMI] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 2: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] it's that time again - lj rca's
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:48 AM, RobertH robe...@abbacomm.net wrote: it is that time again to let your choices be known in one of the mainstream journals http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/readers-choice-awards Thanks! CentOS is one of only 13 distributions in their list. :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
Anne Wilson wrote: 2009/1/29 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. My first guesses would be the system power supply or the CPU fan. I'm beginning to think that way. The smartctl long test has completed without errors. I think that I'll dig out the specs for the mobo/cpu tonight, then buy a new PSU and CPU fan in the morning. Anne Anne, the machine I'm using right now ate my lunch big-time, perhaps a year ago. It turned out to be the front panel momentary power switch on the junky consumer-grade case. The really weird thing is, this box runs 24x7 and the switch hasn't been used very much. Go figure. Work-around/proof was to disconnect the power switch entirely, plugging reset switch to the vacated pwr sw header. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On 1/29/09, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/1/29 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. My first guesses would be the system power supply or the CPU fan. I'm beginning to think that way. The smartctl long test has completed without errors. I think that I'll dig out the specs for the mobo/cpu tonight, then buy a new PSU and CPU fan in the morning. Assuming that the Diagnostic tests you run on the hard drive and RAM are OK, if the box was made by Dell, Compaq/HP, etc., they probably have Diagnostics you can run on the mobo/cpu that you can Download from their web site. If not, hopefully from the web site of the mobo manufacturer. You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. Depends on how long the frequent outages were that day. My observation is that if the power goes down (especially when we have Thunderstorm activity) it may come back up and then go down again, sometimes in 1 or 2 minutes or less. The cheap PSU's are vastly over rated, with regard to their capacity. The one I bought for this Dell Dimension 2400 a few weeks ago says 550 watts. The motherboard repairman told me he believes the true capacity is about 50% of that. If your data is critical, the backups should be stored off site. There are some companies mentioned on webhostingtalk.com who provide backup service to their servers over the Internet. In my own box, the vast majority of the symptoms, if not all symptoms, disappeared, after I unplugged the connectors and reseated them. Then, the new PSU. In my wife's box, a strange intermittent problem, where the BIOS couldn't see the hard drive when booting, disappeared, when I replaced the EIDE cable. When you have the cover off, put your hand on the Shroud over the CPU and see whether or not it is hot or cool. If it is hot, that's not an indication of good cooling. The Capacitors on the motherboard should look alike and not be hot to the touch. GL ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: Anne, the machine I'm using right now ate my lunch big-time, perhaps a year ago. It turned out to be the front panel momentary power switch on the junky consumer-grade case. The really weird thing is, this box runs 24x7 and the switch hasn't been used very much. Go figure. Work-around/proof was to disconnect the power switch entirely, plugging reset switch to the vacated pwr sw header. As far as I can see, all that's gone is my ~/.kde - and that's a big enough pain :-) So far, everything I've checked has been fine, so I'm thinking that it's either power or over-heating. Since I've been running tests for several hours, I'm inclined to rule out over-heating, so I'll get a new PSU. The case was not a cheap one, but it did have a built-in PSU. Come to think of it, I do believe that I have a 400w PSU in my cupboard, that is a known good brand, and unused. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: Assuming that the Diagnostic tests you run on the hard drive and RAM are OK, if the box was made by Dell, Compaq/HP, etc., they probably have Diagnostics you can run on the mobo/cpu that you can Download from their web site. If not, hopefully from the web site of the mobo manufacturer. It's a home-build. I've been doing this since about 1990. The drives are Hitachi, and I seem to recall that once before I tried to run the Hitachi diagnostics, without success. My request for help/information from them was ignored. However, at the time I got the drives they had a good warranty period, which is something I always check as a guide to how much confidence the manufacturer has in them. You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. I don't think there's any problem with the UPS (APC). Depends on how long the frequent outages were that day. My observation is that if the power goes down (especially when we have Thunderstorm activity) it may come back up and then go down again, sometimes in 1 or 2 minutes or less. The village has had several weeks of being powered by emergency generators stuck in fields. We've had very many power dips and momentary losses, then in the space of last week we had an 11-hour outage, followed a few days later by a 4.5 hour one and two short ones soon after that. I think it was the rapidity of those outages that caused the problem. The cheap PSU's are vastly over rated, with regard to their capacity. The one I bought for this Dell Dimension 2400 a few weeks ago says 550 watts. The motherboard repairman told me he believes the true capacity is about 50% of that. I buy only recommended brands, and watch the load. However, that box has a PSU that came with the (not cheap) box, so I don't know the quality. I think it should be replaced. I can't remember its rating - I'll check tomorrow when I pull the box out. If your data is critical, the backups should be stored off site. There are some companies mentioned on webhostingtalk.com who provide backup service to their servers over the Internet. Critical only to me - personal stuff. All the same, I take your point. I will move the backups to a safer spot. In my own box, the vast majority of the symptoms, if not all symptoms, disappeared, after I unplugged the connectors and reseated them. Then, the new PSU. In my wife's box, a strange intermittent problem, where the BIOS couldn't see the hard drive when booting, disappeared, when I replaced the EIDE cable. When you have the cover off, put your hand on the Shroud over the CPU and see whether or not it is hot or cool. If it is hot, that's not an indication of good cooling. The Capacitors on the motherboard should look alike and not be hot to the touch. GL I'll check those at the same time. Thanks for the reply Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY
On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 13:41 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Brett Serkez Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:55 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: It is widely known that Quickbooks has a horrible storage engine, requires Windows to host multiuser access, etc. However, I've successfully been storing QuickBooks files on Samba shares at a handful of locations with no real issues other than slight performance degradation. However, a somewhat recent thread here mentioned the proper use of oplock'ing in the Samba configuration to considerably increase performance/reliability. I am able to host all files other than Quickbooks on Samba shares. The issue with QuickBooks is they run their own WIndows service on port 10172 in addition to Windows file sharing. We run QB Pro 2003, and it does not listen on any ports. We also have it on a samba share. Unsure about the perfomance, but it works for us. They've made a bunch (and I mean a bunch) of changes since then. It's multi-user scheme seems to change with each new version. Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
At 03:44 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: Assuming that the Diagnostic tests you run on the hard drive and RAM are OK, if the box was made by Dell, Compaq/HP, etc., they probably have Diagnostics you can run on the mobo/cpu that you can Download from their web site. If not, hopefully from the web site of the mobo manufacturer. It's a home-build. I've been doing this since about 1990. The drives are Hitachi, and I seem to recall that once before I tried to run the Hitachi diagnostics, without success. My request for help/information from them was ignored. However, at the time I got the drives they had a good warranty period, which is something I always check as a guide to how much confidence the manufacturer has in them. You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. I don't think there's any problem with the UPS (APC). Depends on how long the frequent outages were that day. My observation is that if the power goes down (especially when we have Thunderstorm activity) it may come back up and then go down again, sometimes in 1 or 2 minutes or less. The village has had several weeks of being powered by emergency generators stuck in fields. We've had very many power dips and momentary losses, then in the space of last week we had an 11-hour outage, followed a few days later by a 4.5 hour one and two short ones soon after that. I think it was the rapidity of those outages that caused the problem. The cheap PSU's are vastly over rated, with regard to their capacity. The one I bought for this Dell Dimension 2400 a few weeks ago says 550 watts. The motherboard repairman told me he believes the true capacity is about 50% of that. I buy only recommended brands, and watch the load. However, that box has a PSU that came with the (not cheap) box, so I don't know the quality. I think it should be replaced. I can't remember its rating - I'll check tomorrow when I pull the box out. If your data is critical, the backups should be stored off site. There are some companies mentioned on webhostingtalk.com who provide backup service to their servers over the Internet. Critical only to me - personal stuff. All the same, I take your point. I will move the backups to a safer spot. In my own box, the vast majority of the symptoms, if not all symptoms, disappeared, after I unplugged the connectors and reseated them. Then, the new PSU. In my wife's box, a strange intermittent problem, where the BIOS couldn't see the hard drive when booting, disappeared, when I replaced the EIDE cable. When you have the cover off, put your hand on the Shroud over the CPU and see whether or not it is hot or cool. If it is hot, that's not an indication of good cooling. The Capacitors on the motherboard should look alike and not be hot to the touch. GL Capacitors on the motherboard will look like they are rounded and bowing upward or cracked, or may even have some yellowish, dried, liquid, if they are defective. If they are intermittent, they may show only the slightest signs of this. The capacitors have a liquid inside that literally cooks off if they get too hot. I'll check those at the same time. Thanks for the reply Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1923 - Release Date: 1/29/2009 7:13 AM ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY [OT]
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 15:52 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 13:41 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Brett Serkez Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:55 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: It is widely known that Quickbooks has a horrible storage engine, requires Windows to host multiuser access, etc. However, I've successfully been storing QuickBooks files on Samba shares at a handful of locations with no real issues other than slight performance degradation. However, a somewhat recent thread here mentioned the proper use of oplock'ing in the Samba configuration to considerably increase performance/reliability. I am able to host all files other than Quickbooks on Samba shares. The issue with QuickBooks is they run their own WIndows service on port 10172 in addition to Windows file sharing. We run QB Pro 2003, and it does not listen on any ports. We also have it on a samba share. Unsure about the perfomance, but it works for us. They've made a bunch (and I mean a bunch) of changes since then. It's multi-user scheme seems to change with each new version. Yeah, we are looking to migrate away for just this reason. It changes away from what you need every upgrade. Anyone else in a consulting/law firm/software dev shop who is a governemnt contractor that needs to do cost accounting and wants it to be hosted on a linux server? Let me know, we are going to have to do some thing else soon. BTW, we just found out the Turbo Tax 2008 does not work with older version of Quickbooks today. Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY
Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Brett Serkez Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:55 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: It is widely known that Quickbooks has a horrible storage engine, requires Windows to host multiuser access, etc. However, I've successfully been storing QuickBooks files on Samba shares at a handful of locations with no real issues other than slight performance degradation. However, a somewhat recent thread here mentioned the proper use of oplock'ing in the Samba configuration to considerably increase performance/reliability. I am able to host all files other than Quickbooks on Samba shares. The issue with QuickBooks is they run their own WIndows service on port 10172 in addition to Windows file sharing. We run QB Pro 2003, and it does not listen on any ports. We also have it on a samba share. Unsure about the perfomance, but it works for us. If someone has figured out a way around this, I would prefer to host multiple user QuickBooks access on Samba. Brett ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos We had QB premier 2004 working well on Samba, then down graded to QB pro 2007 and the nightmare began. Long story - short version is we now run QB Pro 2007 on a CentOS 5 W/S running VirtualBox and a W2K instance with network bridging in multi-user mode so the four Windoze XP clients can access it. Performance is not great but adequate, however I can backup reliably and it stays up 24x7. Wish there was an alternative. Rob begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:r...@kampensonline.net tel;cell:407-341-3815 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY [OT]
Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 15:52 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY On Thu, 2009-01-29 at 13:41 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Brett Serkez Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:55 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: It is widely known that Quickbooks has a horrible storage engine, requires Windows to host multiuser access, etc. However, I've successfully been storing QuickBooks files on Samba shares at a handful of locations with no real issues other than slight performance degradation. However, a somewhat recent thread here mentioned the proper use of oplock'ing in the Samba configuration to considerably increase performance/reliability. I am able to host all files other than Quickbooks on Samba shares. The issue with QuickBooks is they run their own WIndows service on port 10172 in addition to Windows file sharing. We run QB Pro 2003, and it does not listen on any ports. We also have it on a samba share. Unsure about the perfomance, but it works for us. They've made a bunch (and I mean a bunch) of changes since then. It's multi-user scheme seems to change with each new version. Yeah, we are looking to migrate away for just this reason. It changes away from what you need every upgrade. Anyone else in a consulting/law firm/software dev shop who is a governemnt contractor that needs to do cost accounting and wants it to be hosted on a linux server? Let me know, we are going to have to do some thing else soon. BTW, we just found out the Turbo Tax 2008 does not work with older version of Quickbooks today. Beware - they tell you QB2007 needs XP and will not work under W2K - this is rubbish, they just act as another marketing arm for Redmond. Also this year with Turbo Tax 2008 they warn it will be the last year it will work on W2K, let's wait and see. Rob Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:r...@kampensonline.net tel;cell:407-341-3815 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. I don't think there's any problem with the UPS (APC). I've seen APC rack mount systems shut down the power outlets when doing their self-test and the batteries were dodgy. --Chris ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
Bob Hoffman wrote: But I never get any footers. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos reeely? that was under the message you just sent. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. I don't think there's any problem with the UPS (APC). I've seen APC rack mount systems shut down the power outlets when doing their self-test and the batteries were dodgy. After reading that her village was on generator power, etc., I would be suspicious of the health of that UPS. If the box has problems, it may be because the UPS was unable to cope with the very heavy prolonged workload. If the UPS does not have Automatic Voltage Regulation, without using the battery, it would also have been working harder? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OFF Topic - Looking for web based file management application for law firm clients
Ed Morrison wrote: Hi All: I am working with a law firm that would like to offer to it's clients the ability to access their documents through a web interface. This would require a nice gui to offer the clients with a simple process for the clients to download from. It would also need to be secure (authentication SSL), and mandatory disclaimer acceptance before logging into their account. Anyone with experience or thoughts on this matter? I was also looking for something like this. You can find a whole load of choices here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_management_system A lot of the open source ones are built on Java like the two mentioned in this thread Afresco and KnowledgeTree. One that is not listed but is possibly less of a hassle to setup and maybe fit the law firm's needs is Epiware: http://www.epiware.com http://www.linux.com/feature/146307 http://sourceforge.net/projects/epiware/ No java involved and you get an online demo to look at first too. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. My first guesses would be the system power supply or the CPU fan. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com Yesterday I had a system shutting down on its own. It would power up and stay on, but I discover that the PSU fans were not spinning. The failing fans explained a warning message at POST indicating that the system was overheating and needed immediate repairs. ~af ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed
on 1-29-2009 4:29 PM Aldo Foot spake the following: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. My first guesses would be the system power supply or the CPU fan. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com Yesterday I had a system shutting down on its own. It would power up and stay on, but I discover that the PSU fans were not spinning. The failing fans explained a warning message at POST indicating that the system was overheating and needed immediate repairs. ~af I have a recovered desktop at home that was my daughters. Sometimes it powers up and shuts off, and sometimes it will die before it gets out of the post screens. I suspect the CPU fan, but since I don't need the system right now (I just gave her a better one so she is happy), it sits until I have time. There are many ways a system can break, and some of them can be very difficult to figure out without a bunch of spare parts you can swap. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe
On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Matt Shields wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Kevin Krieser k_krie...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 16:20:47 Kevin Krieser wrote: The information IS in the headers, but many email programs don't show the full headers, extracting only the information that many people want (subject, TO:, CC:, etc). So if you aren't aware of it being hidden in the headers, you may not notice it. I generally look at the footers, when present, to see how to unsubscribe. And many people don't even go that far. CentOS probably should add just a little more to their footers, such as a note that the link provided is also to unsubscribe. It's easy to find when you know, but then we're not newbies, are we? Anne I've been on several different lists, on and off, so I am not a newbie here. And even then, unless I remembered, I probably wouldn't think of looking at the normally hidden headers. Now when there is a footer added that says to unsubscribe, send a message to a specified address, it can be frustrating. But I guess it works, a list manager will probably remove the poster. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Who cares about the headers every single message from the list has a footer appended to it with the information about the list. Click on the link and it tells you how to unsubscribe. Not to mention that, but once a month I get an email from the mailing list telling me about my subscription and how to log in and make changes to my subscription. -matt http://www.sysadminvalley.com http://www.beantownhost.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboston Bill Cosby - A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice. Mentioned the headers since some early replies referred the OP to the headers. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Digital Video Editor for CentOS 5.2 - Suggestions?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: We are finally going to replace our VHS-C Camcorder, with a Digital Camcorder, tomorrow. Looking for suggestions, for Digital Video Editor to use on CentOS 5.2. Preferably, something in the CentOS or RPMForge repositories and easy to use. TIA! Cinelerra. It is very powerful, and Dag kindly added to his repo quite sometime ago. http://cinelerra.org/ The only problem is that, because it is so powerful and feature rich, learning curve is very steep. I have yet to learn it myself but I already know its capabilities through my best Linux friend who is an expert in video editing. Akemi: To revive my thread that is nearly six (6) months old... First, for reasons I will never understand, the store where my Stepson works took their sweet time about selling the camcorder to us at a discount, so there was a very long delay in our getting it and we've only used it a few times. Tonight, my wife had our eight (8) year old daughter use it, while she was doing her dance exercises. When she saw how great she looked, she wanted to edit the video and post on youtube. She has been using M$ Windows for months, so I suggested Windows Movie Maker or whatever it's called. She replied that she did not like that program and had deleted it from her box. So, I found this thread and she has been using Cinelerra on my box, but it saved the edited file in .xml format, so there *is* a learning curve to Cinelerra. Cinelerra seems to have *no* problems working with the video from the Samsung Camcorder which uses the mini DVD media. :-) She did discover in a web search that Cinelerra is only available for Linux and that it is not for beginners. She is very smart and persistent, so she will be able to use Cinelerra with time.Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Rob Kampen Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:30 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Brett Serkez Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:55 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tim Nelson tnel...@rockbochs.com wrote: Long story - short version is we now run QB Pro 2007 on a CentOS 5 W/S running VirtualBox and a W2K instance with network bridging in multi-user mode so the four Windoze XP clients can access it. Performance is not great but adequate, however I can backup reliably and it stays up 24x7. Wish there was an alternative. So exactly what is the problem about running that version on Samba? What Samba configurations did you try if any? JohnStanley ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tim Nelson Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:37 AM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Quickbooks and Samba and Oplocks... OH MY It is widely known that Quickbooks has a horrible storage engine, requires Windows to host multiuser access, etc. However, I've successfully been storing QuickBooks files on Samba shares at a handful of locations with no real issues other than slight performance degradation. However, a somewhat recent thread here mentioned the proper use of oplock'ing in the Samba configuration to considerably increase performance/reliability. Could someone please share any hints/tips on configuring Samba for optimum use with QuickBooks? I have one server in particular that appears to be suffering performance problems with QuickBooks but runs lightning fast with all other applications. If I recall, and as the subject mentions, I believe the key lies with the oplock settings. - What do have for the current Samba configuration file? What version QB? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos