Re: [CentOS-docs] How to back up a running KVM guest

2009-03-24 Thread Julian Price

Hi Ralph

Thanks for setting up the page.
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupKVMGuest
I have written a first draft and I will improve it over the coming 
days.  But is it going in the right direction?  When I get to the next 
milestone I'll post the link to the Virtualization mailing list asking 
for feedback.


How do I make the title appear as a title but not appear in the contents?

 Can we keep discussion on list on not fall back to private
On other lists I'm a member of it's normal to send messages direct 
rather than to the list unless the content is of general interest.  This 
reduces the number of people who opt for digests to reduce the noise, so 
speeds up communication.  However, I can see this is not consistent with 
CentOS ethos of open-ness and collaboration.  So yes, I will reply to 
all CentOS lists in future, unless it's obviously not appropriate e.g. 
security related.


I also noticed how quickly you people reply in both forums and lists, 
which is great - I will try to keep up the pace.


I do not appear to have permission to edit my home page:
http://wiki.centos.org/JulianPrice
Does that come later after I have written some acceptable articles?

Thanks,
Julian


Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  

Thanks,
Julian Price
  

I'll do so after you tell me if JulianPrice is your wiki account =:D



Okay, done. And: Can we keep discussion on list on not fall back to private
mails? Thanks.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] How to back up a running KVM guest

2009-03-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Julian Price wrote:
 Hi Ralph

 Thanks for setting up the page.
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupKVMGuest
 I have written a first draft and I will improve it over the coming days.  
 But is it going in the right direction? 

I'm going to take a look at it later on.

 How do I make the title appear as a title but not appear in the contents?

#pragma section-numbers 2

in the head of the page should do the trick (just before the title is
okay).

  Can we keep discussion on list on not fall back to private
 On other lists I'm a member of it's normal to send messages direct  
 rather than to the list unless the content is of general interest.  This  
 reduces the number of people who opt for digests to reduce the noise, so  
 speeds up communication.  However, I can see this is not consistent with  
 CentOS ethos of open-ness and collaboration.  So yes, I will reply to  
 all CentOS lists in future, unless it's obviously not appropriate e.g.  
 security related.

Thank you. It's easier for people to keep track of things when they
don't have decide if an answer to a mail in their inbox could be of
public interest or not. Keeps down thinking, which sometimes is a
process that hurts :)

 I do not appear to have permission to edit my home page:
 http://wiki.centos.org/JulianPrice
 Does that come later after I have written some acceptable articles?

Try again. It's not created automatically (and not everyone requests
it).

Cheers,

Ralph


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[CentOS-virt] Tips for installing Fedora 10 32bit Xen PV domU/guest on CentOS 5.3 dom0/host

2009-03-24 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
Hello!

Xen and related packages (libvirt, virt-install, virt-manager etc) in Upcoming 
CentOS 5.3 support
running and installing Fedora 10 (and Fedora 11) paravirtual domU guest virtual 
machines. 

These upstream fixes (new features) make it possible:

RHEL5.3 xen: include support for booting Fedora 10 DomU (i.e. bzImage 
support)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457199

update virtinst to install f10 xen guests
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460585

But beware there's a bug in 32bit x86 Fedora 10 installer (anaconda). It 
installs wrong
kernel to the domU (it should install kernel-PAE but it installs normal 
kernel), 
and that will prevent the domU from starting after installation. 
Xen only supports PAE kernels for 32bit PV guests.

It's this bug:
anaconda installs the wrong kernel for i686 xen guests
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470905

It can be fixed by using a kickstart file for installation, which forces
installation of kernel-PAE instead of normal kernel.

Example of such kickstart: http://pasik.reaktio.net/fedora/f10-xen-domu-ks.cfg

Fedora 11 (current rawhide of 2009-03-24) does not have that bug anymore, so
paravirtual F11 Xen PV domU installation should work out-of-the-box. 

I've tested and verified all the above works. 
Hopefully that helps someone :) 

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[CentOS-es] Instalación

2009-03-24 Thread Carlos Andres Torres Paredes
Buen dia:

Tengo un Portatil Compaq F706LA y quisiera instalar Centos en su version mas
reciente (5,2), el dia de ayer descargue la imagen de DVD y procedi a la
instalación en mi portatil, con la gran sorpresa de que no carga GNOME, mi
portatil tiene como tarjeta grafica NVidia gforce go 6100, 2 gb de ram y 120
gb de Disco duro. Que parametros en la instalacion debo cambiar o adicionar
para que la instalacion sea exitosa?

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Re: [CentOS-es] Instalación

2009-03-24 Thread Carlos Andres Torres Paredes
en modo grafico fue la que elegí.

2009/3/24 Yoinier Hernandez Nieves administra...@ltu.jovenclub.cu

 La instalacion te la hizo en modo texto, o en modo grafico??

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 Carlos Andres Torres Paredes hk3...@misena.edu.co ha escrito:


  Buen dia:

 Tengo un Portatil Compaq F706LA y quisiera instalar Centos en su version
 mas
 reciente (5,2), el dia de ayer descargue la imagen de DVD y procedi a la
 instalación en mi portatil, con la gran sorpresa de que no carga GNOME, mi
 portatil tiene como tarjeta grafica NVidia gforce go 6100, 2 gb de ram y
 120
 gb de Disco duro. Que parametros en la instalacion debo cambiar o
 adicionar
 para que la instalacion sea exitosa?

 Agradezco de antemano la colaboracion prestada.



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[CentOS-es] Ayuda con Servidor que no arranca

2009-03-24 Thread Ruben Moyota
Hola Amigos de la lista, tengo un problema, resulta que tengo un server con
centos 5, al que se le quemo la fuente de poder, le cambiamos la fuente y
ahora no arranca el cursos se queda despues del mensaje presione I para
arranque personalizado.
Alguien tiene alguna sugerencia.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Ayuda con Servidor que no arranca

2009-03-24 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
Ruben Moyota wrote:
 Hola Amigos de la lista, tengo un problema, resulta que tengo un server con
 centos 5, al que se le quemo la fuente de poder, le cambiamos la fuente y
 ahora no arranca el cursos se queda despues del mensaje presione I para
 arranque personalizado.
 Alguien tiene alguna sugerencia.
 
presiona la I

o vete a modo single (1)

Al iniciar, en el grub puedes poner: a y agregar un 1 al final.. entones 
arrancarías en modo single y de ahi verificar qué servicio está 
haciéndote daño

saludos
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Re: [CentOS-es] Instalación

2009-03-24 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
Carlos Andres Torres Paredes wrote:
 Tengo un Portatil Compaq F706LA y quisiera instalar Centos en su version
 mas
 reciente (5,2), el dia de ayer descargue la imagen de DVD y procedi a la
 instalación en mi portatil, con la gran sorpresa de que no carga GNOME, mi
 portatil tiene como tarjeta grafica NVidia gforce go 6100, 2 gb de ram y
 120
 gb de Disco duro. Que parametros en la instalacion debo cambiar o
 adicionar
 para que la instalacion sea exitosa?

arranca en modo 3, baja el driver propietario de nvidia y compílalo, así 
me funciona a mi.. tengo una nvidia geforce muy similar.

saludos
epe


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Re: [CentOS-es] Ayuda con Servidor que no arranca

2009-03-24 Thread KnX
Si lo que dice ernesto no te funciona en el arranque del grub edita la linea
de arranque y en lugar de usar el single 1, intenta usando init=bash al
final de lalinea, saludos.

On 24/03/2009, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com
wrote:

 Ruben Moyota wrote:
  Hola Amigos de la lista, tengo un problema, resulta que tengo un server
 con
  centos 5, al que se le quemo la fuente de poder, le cambiamos la fuente y
  ahora no arranca el cursos se queda despues del mensaje presione I para
  arranque personalizado.
  Alguien tiene alguna sugerencia.
 
 presiona la I

 o vete a modo single (1)

 Al iniciar, en el grub puedes poner: a y agregar un 1 al final.. entones
 arrancarías en modo single y de ahi verificar qué servicio está
 haciéndote daño

 saludos
 epe

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Re: [CentOS-es] Instalación

2009-03-24 Thread KnX
configura un arranque standar usando vga sin usar tu targeta aceleradora y
desde ahi bajas el driver de envidia luego reinicias y listo ahi te
arrancara el driverbien,salu2.

On 24/03/2009, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com
wrote:

 Carlos Andres Torres Paredes wrote:
  Tengo un Portatil Compaq F706LA y quisiera instalar Centos en su
 version
  mas
  reciente (5,2), el dia de ayer descargue la imagen de DVD y procedi a
 la
  instalación en mi portatil, con la gran sorpresa de que no carga GNOME,
 mi
  portatil tiene como tarjeta grafica NVidia gforce go 6100, 2 gb de ram
 y
  120
  gb de Disco duro. Que parametros en la instalacion debo cambiar o
  adicionar
  para que la instalacion sea exitosa?
 
 arranca en modo 3, baja el driver propietario de nvidia y compílalo, así
 me funciona a mi.. tengo una nvidia geforce muy similar.

 saludos
 epe


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Re: [CentOS-es] Instalación

2009-03-24 Thread Carlos Andres Torres Paredes
Muchas gracias a todos ustedes por la colaboracion, en un intento nuevo para
instalarlo me funciono bien, solo agrege como parametro adicional que la
resolucion del video es 1280x800 en este pc y funciono. Ahora se me presenta
un detalle adicional como hago para que me reconozca las tarjetas de red
correctamente, lo mas curioso es que funciona el ping a una maquina de la
red pero no navega en internet.



2009/3/24 KnX k...@lacosox.org

 configura un arranque standar usando vga sin usar tu targeta aceleradora y
 desde ahi bajas el driver de envidia luego reinicias y listo ahi te
 arrancara el driverbien,salu2.


 On 24/03/2009, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com
 wrote:

 Carlos Andres Torres Paredes wrote:
  Tengo un Portatil Compaq F706LA y quisiera instalar Centos en su
 version
  mas
  reciente (5,2), el dia de ayer descargue la imagen de DVD y procedi a
 la
  instalación en mi portatil, con la gran sorpresa de que no carga
 GNOME, mi
  portatil tiene como tarjeta grafica NVidia gforce go 6100, 2 gb de ram
 y
  120
  gb de Disco duro. Que parametros en la instalacion debo cambiar o
  adicionar
  para que la instalacion sea exitosa?
 
 arranca en modo 3, baja el driver propietario de nvidia y compílalo, así
 me funciona a mi.. tengo una nvidia geforce muy similar.

 saludos
 epe


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Re: [CentOS-es] Instalación

2009-03-24 Thread carlos restrepo
El esta detras de un proxy?.

Saludos.


Carlos R!

2009/3/24 Carlos Andres Torres Paredes hk3...@misena.edu.co

 Muchas gracias a todos ustedes por la colaboracion, en un intento nuevo
 para instalarlo me funciono bien, solo agrege como parametro adicional que
 la resolucion del video es 1280x800 en este pc y funciono. Ahora se me
 presenta un detalle adicional como hago para que me reconozca las tarjetas
 de red correctamente, lo mas curioso es que funciona el ping a una maquina
 de la red pero no navega en internet.



 2009/3/24 KnX k...@lacosox.org

 configura un arranque standar usando vga sin usar tu targeta aceleradora y
 desde ahi bajas el driver de envidia luego reinicias y listo ahi te
 arrancara el driverbien,salu2.


 On 24/03/2009, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com
 wrote:

 Carlos Andres Torres Paredes wrote:
  Tengo un Portatil Compaq F706LA y quisiera instalar Centos en su
 version
  mas
  reciente (5,2), el dia de ayer descargue la imagen de DVD y procedi a
 la
  instalación en mi portatil, con la gran sorpresa de que no carga
 GNOME, mi
  portatil tiene como tarjeta grafica NVidia gforce go 6100, 2 gb de
 ram y
  120
  gb de Disco duro. Que parametros en la instalacion debo cambiar o
  adicionar
  para que la instalacion sea exitosa?
 
 arranca en modo 3, baja el driver propietario de nvidia y compílalo, así
 me funciona a mi.. tengo una nvidia geforce muy similar.

 saludos
 epe


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Re: [CentOS-es] Instalación

2009-03-24 Thread Juan Pablo Botero
Antes de eso:

Hay resolución DNS?

2009/3/24 carlos restrepo restrcar...@gmail.com

 El esta detras de un proxy?.

 Saludos.


 Carlos R!

 2009/3/24 Carlos Andres Torres Paredes hk3...@misena.edu.co

 Muchas gracias a todos ustedes por la colaboracion, en un intento nuevo
 para instalarlo me funciono bien, solo agrege como parametro adicional que
 la resolucion del video es 1280x800 en este pc y funciono. Ahora se me
 presenta un detalle adicional como hago para que me reconozca las tarjetas
 de red correctamente, lo mas curioso es que funciona el ping a una maquina
 de la red pero no navega en internet.



 2009/3/24 KnX k...@lacosox.org

 configura un arranque standar usando vga sin usar tu targeta aceleradora y
 desde ahi bajas el driver de envidia luego reinicias y listo ahi te
 arrancara el driverbien,salu2.


 On 24/03/2009, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com
 wrote:

 Carlos Andres Torres Paredes wrote:
  Tengo un Portatil Compaq F706LA y quisiera instalar Centos en su
 version
  mas
  reciente (5,2), el dia de ayer descargue la imagen de DVD y procedi
 a la
  instalación en mi portatil, con la gran sorpresa de que no carga
 GNOME, mi
  portatil tiene como tarjeta grafica NVidia gforce go 6100, 2 gb de
 ram y
  120
  gb de Disco duro. Que parametros en la instalacion debo cambiar o
  adicionar
  para que la instalacion sea exitosa?
 
 arranca en modo 3, baja el driver propietario de nvidia y compílalo, así
 me funciona a mi.. tengo una nvidia geforce muy similar.

 saludos
 epe


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[CentOS-es] centos 5.2 squid 2.6

2009-03-24 Thread killerfs
hola
aui con algunas dudas sobre correcta instalacion del squid
en primer lugar quiera saber cmo hacerlo tranparente, antes en el centos 
4 me salia muy facil pero en esta version nuev ade squid que parametros 
debo usar?
como deberia de colocar la regla del iptables sabiendo que mi eth0 va 
hacia internet y mi eth1 apunta  a mi red interna
si alguien tien algun manual o direccion web seria fabuloso, ya que  
solo he encontrado dichos manuales solo para  el centos 4.X
y si alguien sabe d ela aguna bd donde pueda coger los url_regex 
para tener a la amxima seguridad mi squid, y  si alguie cnoce de una 
herramienta para el monitoreo de los usuario por ip, a como el sarg?
que  tampoco corre bein en el centos 5.2 con squid 2.6


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Re: [CentOS] How to add ClamAV to Postfix?

2009-03-24 Thread Linux Advocate


  
  Is there some standard way of adding AV to Postfix?
 
 clearly the best way is to add a wrapper program like amavisd-new or
 MailScanner which handles spamassassin and which ever combination of
 anti-virus programs you use.
 
 The postfix list and primary author, Wietse will tell you flat out not
 to use MailScanner (there's something personal between Wietse and
 Julian, the author of MailScanner) but I found amavisd-new to be a PITA
 and just love MailScanner myself and have never had issues with
 integrating MailScanner into Postfix mail queue.
 
 rpmforge has clamav/clamdb packages. MailScanner is available from
 http://www.mailscanner.info
 
 Craig

agreed.  mailscanner is ok.



  
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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Linux Advocate

but what I worry about is members of the core 
 CentOS team burning out and quitting... that would be much worse for 
 CentOS than a few weeks delay here and there. For me it is important for 
 the core team to know that they can take the time off they need for real 
 life events without feeling bad or guilty about delaying a free, 
 community driven project.

totally agree. we need to appreciate them and not be too demanding.



  
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[CentOS] update yum

2009-03-24 Thread madunix
Am trying to update my wine i get the following ..

[] download]# yum update wine*
Loading priorities plugin
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * epel: ftp.nluug.nl
 * rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net
 * base: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
 * updates: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
 * addons: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
 * extras: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package wine-cms.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
--- Package wine-jack.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: wine-core = 1.0.1-1.el5 for package: wine-tools
-- Processing Dependency: wine-core = 1.0.1-1.el5 for package: wine-desktop
--- Package wine-ldap.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
--- Package wine-twain.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
--- Package wine-core.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
--- Package wine.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
--- Package wine-esd.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
--- Package wine-nas.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
--- Package wine-capi.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
-- Running transaction check
-- Processing Dependency: wine-core = 1.0.1-1.el5 for package: wine-desktop
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: wine-core = 1.0.1-1.el5 is needed by
package wine-desktop

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Re: [CentOS] update yum

2009-03-24 Thread Christoph Neuhaus
 [] download]# yum update wine*
 Loading priorities plugin

Good.


  * epel: ftp.nluug.nl
  * rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net

Trouble's ahead...


 0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections

Uhoh! Looks like you did not configure the priorities.


 --- Package wine-cms.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
 --- Package wine-jack.i386 0:1.0.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
 -- Processing Dependency: wine-core = 1.0.1-1.el5 for package:  
 wine-tools
 -- Processing Dependency: wine-core = 1.0.1-1.el5 for package:  
 wine-desktop

Do you see the little difference: 1.0.1-1.el5.rf vs. 1.0.1-1.el5? Your 3rd  
party repos are clashing.

Read:
  - man yum (e.g. --disablerepo)
  - http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities (setting up the  
priorities)
  - http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories (available  
repositories)


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[CentOS] Disks do not mount at boot

2009-03-24 Thread Theo Band
I have a problem with two entries in my /etc/fstab. When I boot the
machine, the disks are not mounted. When I give mount -a, all disks are
present without an error. Of course I don't want to manually do that
after each reboot. What can be the problem?

CentOS 5.2

cat /etc/fstab
/dev/vg/centos  /   ext3defaults1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot   ext3defaults1 2
LABEL=zele_common   /dczele01/  ext3defaults1 2
LABEL=users /dczele01/users ext3defaults1 2
tmpfs   /dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0
devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
sysfs   /syssysfs   defaults0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults0 0
/dev/vg/swapswapswapdefaults0 0
arend:/home /home   nfs
proto=tcp,nfsvers=3,bg,defaults0 0
arend:/program  /programnfs
proto=tcp,nfsvers=3,bg,defaults0 0


Instead of LABEL I also tried to use the device /dev/vg2/users. The
filesystem is created on a logical volume, part of a new volume group:
lvs
  LV  VG   Attr   LSize   Origin Snap%  Move Log Copy%  Convert
  centos  vg   -wi-ao   6.91G
  swapvg   -wi-ao 992.00M
  users   vg2  -wi-ao  50.00G
  zele_common vg2  -wi-ao 100.00G

After booting /etc/mtab and mount do not list the /dczele01 entries. In
the log I see these lines:

Mar 24 08:42:02 fsutrecht kernel: md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
Mar 24 08:42:02 fsutrecht kernel: md: autorun ...
Mar 24 08:42:02 fsutrecht kernel: md: ... autorun DONE.
Mar 24 08:42:02 fsutrecht kernel: device-mapper: multipath: version
1.0.5 loaded
Mar 24 08:42:02 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3 FS on dm-0, internal journal
Mar 24 08:42:02 fsutrecht kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5
seconds
Mar 24 08:42:02 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
Mar 24 08:42:02 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
ordered data mode.
Mar 24 08:42:03 fsutrecht kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5
seconds
Mar 24 08:42:03 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3 FS on dm-3, internal journal
Mar 24 08:42:03 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
ordered data mode.
Mar 24 08:42:03 fsutrecht kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5
seconds
Mar 24 08:42:03 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3 FS on dm-2, internal journal
Mar 24 08:42:03 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
ordered data mode.
Mar 24 08:42:03 fsutrecht kernel: Adding 1015800k swap on /dev/vg/swap. 
Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1015800k

Then I give a mount -a and see this in the log:
Mar 24 08:44:28 fsutrecht kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5
seconds
Mar 24 08:44:28 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3 FS on dm-3, internal journal
Mar 24 08:44:28 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
ordered data mode.
Mar 24 08:44:28 fsutrecht kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5
seconds
Mar 24 08:44:28 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3 FS on dm-2, internal journal
Mar 24 08:44:28 fsutrecht kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
ordered data mode.

So from the log it looks like the mount is done, but nothing is actually
mounted. I'm puzzled.
The nfs shares and the /boot drive are mounted correctly. So what could
cause these two shares to not mount automatically? What else can I do to
debug?

Thanks,
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[CentOS] how to access encrypted EXT3 partition from Windows

2009-03-24 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi all,

I know some may find this OT, so please ignore this if you think it's
OT. I don't know any Linux-friendly Windows mailing lists / forums
that will even bother with Linux related questions.

I want to carry some data (client info, documents, photos, email,
accounting stuff, etc) with me on a USB HDD, but want to encrypt it. I
know one easy way to shared data between Windows  Linux is to save it
on a FAT32 partition. But, I can't encrypt FAT32, so instead I'll
format the HDD with EXT3 (probably on a LVM as well), and then encrypt
it. I also know there are a few good tools for Widows to read EXT3
partitions, but I can't find one that will read encrypted EXT3
partitions (maybe I'm not searching the correct terms?).

So, does anyone know how to access (read  write) to EXT3 from Windows?



-- 

Kind Regards
Rudi Ahlers
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Re: [CentOS] update yum

2009-03-24 Thread Christoph Neuhaus
 Can you help me further in this issue, should i disable rpm forge ..

1. Please don't top post.
2. You have to decide for yourself which repo you want to use for the wine  
packages. Just don't mix them!

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[CentOS] mmonit - Permission denied errot

2009-03-24 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

I just downloaded the mmonit from mmonit.com site on my CentOS box
untarred-unizipped it.

As per the documentation, I dutifully typed
./bin/mmonit

and it is refusing to run. I am running this as root and SELinux is disabled.

running it with strace spews the following (in entireity):
[begin]
# strace ./bin/mmonit
execve(./bin/mmonit, [./bin/mmonit], [/* 28 vars */]) = -1 EACCES
(Permission denied)
dup(2)  = 3
fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR)
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0600, st_rdev=makedev(136, 2), ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0xb7fed000
_llseek(3, 0, 0xbfd7e7b4, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)
write(3, strace: exec: Permission denied\n, 32strace: exec: Permission denied
) = 32
close(3)= 0
munmap(0xb7fed000, 4096)= 0
exit_group(1)   = ?
[end strace]

What am I missing here?

Thanks and Regards

Rajagopal
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Re: [CentOS] mmonit - Permission denied errot

2009-03-24 Thread John Doe

From: Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajs...@gmail.com
 As per the documentation, I dutifully typed ./bin/mmonit
 and it is refusing to run. I am running this as root and SELinux is disabled.
 ...
 (Permission denied)
 ...
 What am I missing here?

Did you check the file and directory permissions?

JD


  

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Re: [CentOS] update yum

2009-03-24 Thread madunix
i did with your suggestions, it works

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Christoph Neuhaus nihi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you help me further in this issue, should i disable rpm forge ..

 1. Please don't top post.
 2. You have to decide for yourself which repo you want to use for the wine
 packages. Just don't mix them!

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Re: [CentOS] mmonit - Permission denied errot

2009-03-24 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
SOLVED!
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings,

Sorry for answering my own mail

Turns out that the location where the file is happens to be another
partition mounted with user option. And that enables noexec.

remounted the partition with exec option and things seem to be working now.

IT flummoxed me for a moment...

Thanks and Regards

Rajagopal
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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] Disks do not mount at boot

2009-03-24 Thread Theo Band
Theo Band wrote:
 I have a problem with two entries in my /etc/fstab. When I boot the
 machine, the disks are not mounted. When I give mount -a, all disks are
 present without an error. Of course I don't want to manually do that
 after each reboot. What can be the problem?
   
Turned out that the auto.master was using the /dczele01 mountpoint as
well. This was present in a NIS map Apparently autofs removes
existing mounts so that they are not visible anymore.

Theo

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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Phil Schaffner
ward.p.fonte...@wellsfargo.com wrote:
 My thoughts exactly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf 
 Of Noob Centos Admin
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:00 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
 
 snip
 So if it's possible, I'd be more than happy to throw in spare CPU
 cycles to help compile some binaries or run automated tests etc!

The thread on the forum was referring to the need to use and report on 
packages in the testing repo, in order to get them out of testing and 
into standard CentOS repos.

See http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute Help with hunting bugs and 
finding fixes.

Phil
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Re: [CentOS] question about top output

2009-03-24 Thread Greenseid, Joseph M (IS)
 Can you swap the disk drives with a node that works OK?

i will try that when i get back to the data center and can swap the nodes.


 Have you compared BIOS setups? Something tells me this is like
 interrupts related. Could even be poorly seated hardware: memory, power
 or data cables, video, etc.
 
 IIRC, BIOS settings can also have an effect there.

all the bios were flashed to the same version and configured the same before we 
started with these systems.  

something must be wrong with the node for it to run slow, but i just didn't 
understand how top was showing such weird output.  

thanks for the suggestions.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Rob Townley
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Christopher Chan
christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:

 * vlans
 * mstp or some well established form of per vlan spanning tree
 * acl's
 * port mirroring or what cisco calls span sessions
 * snmp
 * ssh enabled remote management
 * support w/ updates and bugfixes


 I need at least 48 ports per device and obviously would like them to be
 fast.  Most importantly, I'd like to know what you guys prefer as
 operations dudes and what pitfalls to avoid.  Also, are there other
 features you folks would demand to have in your switches that I haven't
 mentioned?  I can provide more information if you'd like.  Thanks.

 Oh, cost is sort of an issue (small/medium sized business) but right now
 insight from you guys is what's important and I can work out the cost
 issue later.  Thanks again.

 D-Link DGS-3100


 I ordered a number of these for the school where I work to place a
 number of Cisco 2960 10/100 switches.


 I am quite happy with them. Some of these switches are connected by
 multi-mode fibre.

 cheers,

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Every time i read these posts they are filled with contradictions in
that one person loves HP and hates CiscoLinksys while another hates
HP.  Let's get a more scientific approach.  Switch performance still
depends on the NICS in the client machines.  We all know a network is
a complex system.  Some of us claim to be computer scientists so
shouldn't we act like that instead of advertising for our vendors.

i would like to see real performance data via something like netperf
with client machines booted from a standardized LiveCD, then
peformance under their Linux Distribution and performance under
Windows.

Performance data would need to have details such as the NIC on the
client machine and other hw characteristics.  How many machines ran
the benchmark simultaneously.  Cat5e vs Cat6 or Fiber connected.

http://www.netperf.org   ( OpenSource started by HP, )
ftp://ftp.netperf.org/netperf/(Looks like 2.4.4 is the latest
version.  Not sure what 4.0.0 is)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/jnetperf  (java version of netperf)

There may be another project from some Italian Professor, but didn't
find it in my bookmarks.

Yes, there is the unix way of time dd ... but that wouldn't work for
windows clients and does not give enough details in terms of metrics.
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Re: [CentOS] hplip problems - configure: error: cannot find libjpeg support

2009-03-24 Thread Roger Wells
Anne et al.,
I have been out for a while.  Has any resolution to this occurred.  I am 
still interested in it working correctly
even though I seem to have a kludge sort of working, i.e. I can scan  
print, no fax but I can live with that.
roger wells

Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 16 March 2009 19:30:17 Robert Nichols wrote:
   
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 
 I have hplip running on Mandriva 2009, Fedora 9 and Fedora 10.  I get the
 full range of services there.  I don't know why we have this strange
 situation on CentOS.  The HP website says it is tested against CentOS  5,
 yet the problems seem to be down to not being able to find packages that
 are definitely installed, and installed by totally standard yum :-(
   
 The usual problem when a build procedure complains that a package is
 missing when you actually have it installed is that you need the
 matching -devel package.  The base package just provides the execution
 libraries.  You need the development package in order to build new
 programs that use those libraries.
 

 Yes, I understand that.  I did forget, at the beginning, but that problem was 
 resolved a week or more ago.  All the packages that needed -devel packages 
 got 
 them installed.  If I had had more time to spend on it, it might have been 
 possible to track down why it failed to find the package.  The actuall error 
 was

 Checking for dependency: DBus - Message bus system...
 error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this 
 dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

 I might have another play with this setup when things are less busy.

 Anne
   
 

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Duffner
Rob Townley schrieb:

 Every time i read these posts they are filled with contradictions in
 that one person loves HP and hates CiscoLinksys while another hates
 HP.  Let's get a more scientific approach.  Switch performance still
 depends on the NICS in the client machines. 


Uhm. No. Not any longer, AFAIK.
At least, once you leave the SOHO region (AFAIK, the OP wanted = 48
ports. I don't want to work in such a home-office, really...).
Backplane-performance is an issue.
Especially with iSCSI.

Also, as demonstrated, different switch-vendors offer different
feature-sets at different price-levels.
There's also the compatibility-question: if you already have a number of
devices, the new ones must fit in well into the existing landscape
(VLANs etc.pp.)


  
 Performance data would need to have details such as the NIC on the
 client machine and other hw characteristics.  How many machines ran
 the benchmark simultaneously.  Cat5e vs Cat6 or Fiber connected.
   


That's already more variables in the equation than is healthy for a
typical benchmark...


 http://www.netperf.org   ( OpenSource started by HP, )
 ftp://ftp.netperf.org/netperf/(Looks like 2.4.4 is the latest
 version.  Not sure what 4.0.0 is)

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/jnetperf  (java version of netperf)

 There may be another project from some Italian Professor, but didn't
 find it in my bookmarks.

 Yes, there is the unix way of time dd ... but that wouldn't work for
 windows clients and does not give enough details in terms of metrics.
   

Switch performance is extremely difficult to measure IMO. You need
enough clients to make sure you're not accidentally measuring
client-performance.

In the end, the only thing that counts is real-world data. Netperf
et.al. don't really provide a real-world scenario, where you have a
mixture of packet-sizes and protocols.
Same for artifical load/packet generators (ixia et.al).

Because (almost) nobody has the time to do extensive tests, past
real-world experience/performance data and word-of-mouth becomes an
integral part in choosing such products.
That, or you have enough money to buy everything from Cisco ;-)


Rainer


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Re: [CentOS] SATA tape drive on 4.7

2009-03-24 Thread C Linus Hicks
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 22:22 -0400, C Linus Hicks wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 00:39 -0400, Ross Walker wrote:
 
  This seems it may be a bad memory issue. When star is running it is  
  causing a lot of io to be cached putting pressure on regions of memory  
  that might otherwise go unused.
  
  Think about running a memtest first or just swap the memory out for  
  other memory completely compatible with your chipset since memory is  
  probably cheaper then your time is these days.
  
  You can always test that memory offline and if it's ok redeploy it  
  otherwise a memtest on a machine with a large memory could take days.
  
  -Ross
 
 So I ran memtest86 v1.65 for about 12 hours completing five passes on
 8GB with no errors. I believe my memory is good.
 
 Linus

Just FYI, I will be away until 3/31.


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Ross Walker
On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Rob Townley rob.town...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Christopher Chan
 christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:

 * vlans
 * mstp or some well established form of per vlan spanning tree
 * acl's
 * port mirroring or what cisco calls span sessions
 * snmp
 * ssh enabled remote management
 * support w/ updates and bugfixes


 I need at least 48 ports per device and obviously would like them  
 to be
 fast.  Most importantly, I'd like to know what you guys prefer as
 operations dudes and what pitfalls to avoid.  Also, are there other
 features you folks would demand to have in your switches that I  
 haven't
 mentioned?  I can provide more information if you'd like.  Thanks.

 Oh, cost is sort of an issue (small/medium sized business) but  
 right now
 insight from you guys is what's important and I can work out the  
 cost
 issue later.  Thanks again.

 D-Link DGS-3100


 I ordered a number of these for the school where I work to place a
 number of Cisco 2960 10/100 switches.


 I am quite happy with them. Some of these switches are connected by
 multi-mode fibre.



 Every time i read these posts they are filled with contradictions in
 that one person loves HP and hates CiscoLinksys while another hates
 HP.  Let's get a more scientific approach.  Switch performance still
 depends on the NICS in the client machines.  We all know a network is
 a complex system.  Some of us claim to be computer scientists so
 shouldn't we act like that instead of advertising for our vendors.

 i would like to see real performance data via something like netperf
 with client machines booted from a standardized LiveCD, then
 peformance under their Linux Distribution and performance under
 Windows.

 Performance data would need to have details such as the NIC on the
 client machine and other hw characteristics.  How many machines ran
 the benchmark simultaneously.  Cat5e vs Cat6 or Fiber connected.

 http://www.netperf.org   ( OpenSource started by HP, )
 ftp://ftp.netperf.org/netperf/(Looks like 2.4.4 is the latest
 version.  Not sure what 4.0.0 is)

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/jnetperf  (java version of netperf)

 There may be another project from some Italian Professor, but didn't
 find it in my bookmarks.

 Yes, there is the unix way of time dd ... but that wouldn't work for
 windows clients and does not give enough details in terms of metrics.

Look there really are 3 tiers for network equipment. The first two  
tiers all give wire speed performance and have managed layer 2 and 3  
options. The last tier is for consumer home use.

Tier 1 might have high-end Cisco, Juniper or Nortel (and others) that  
have modular enclosures redundant power supplies and heavenly price  
tags. These are typically used in large enterprises that can afford  
them.

Tier 2 might have Dell Powerconnects and HP Procurves and Cisco 2000  
series products. These are good stable well performing products and  
are gobbled up in heaps by small and medium businesses. These are the  
usual choice for small enterprises and come in managed and unmanaged,  
layer 2 of layer 3, power over Ethernet of not or a combination of  
those.

Tier 3 contain your Linksys, DLink and Zyxel brand products. They  
basically just get the job done, but might need reset every now and  
then and probably can't run more then 2 ports at a full 1GBe  
simultaneously. They are for home use and are prices as such. Some  
will be better then others and some might be very good, but they are  
not designed for business use and thus shouldn't be used as such.

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Re: [CentOS] hplip problems - configure: error: cannot find libjpeg support

2009-03-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:22:19 Roger Wells wrote:
 Anne et al.,
 I have been out for a while.  Has any resolution to this occurred.  I am
 still interested in it working correctly
 even though I seem to have a kludge sort of working, i.e. I can scan 
 print, no fax but I can live with that.
 roger wells

Sorry, no news at all.  I didn't even manage to get scanning working, as you 
did.  I'm still printing from the CUPS queue.At one point I saw a message 
that seemed to point to qt4 - which might be the cause of the problem 
regarding the gui.  I'm inclined to try an earlier version when I have some 
time to spare.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher

 Tier 2 might have Dell Powerconnects and HP Procurves and Cisco 2000  
 series products. These are good stable well performing products and  
 are gobbled up in heaps by small and medium businesses. These are the  
 usual choice for small enterprises and come in managed and unmanaged,  
 layer 2 of layer 3, power over Ethernet of not or a combination of  
 those.
   
You can add D-Link to Tier 2. Managed, some come with PoE ports, yada 
yada. Heard of leaky HP switches? Double dealing D-Links? A long time 
ago, yes.
 Tier 3 contain your Linksys, DLink and Zyxel brand products. They  
 basically just get the job done, but might need reset every now and  
 then and probably can't run more then 2 ports at a full 1GBe  
 simultaneously. They are for home use and are prices as such. Some  
 will be better then others and some might be very good, but they are  
 not designed for business use and thus shouldn't be used as such.
   

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread nate
Rainer Duffner wrote:

 Switch performance is extremely difficult to measure IMO. You need
 enough clients to make sure you're not accidentally measuring
 client-performance.

There's also a lot more to switches than pure performance, line
rate switches have been around for at least a decade(switches
that have enough bandwidth to have every port running at 100%
utilization).

If your running only a layer 2 network(who does that anymore?)
then perhaps performance is the best measure, but for the
well known top performing manufacturers of gear raw performance
hasn't been something to be concerned about for some time in
the 10/100 and GigE space.

Now 10GigE is still kind of new as far as high density line
rate, most chassis switches are not even line rate if you
fully populate them with 10Gig ports.

IMO -

(no particular order)
HP - Good for the lifetime warranty, lower support(contract)
 costs. Advantages for an HP shop since they likely tie in
 nicely to HP management tools.
Extreme - Mature next-gen linux-based OS that's easy to use,
  lots of advanced functionality included out of the
  box. With a couple exceptions, line rate for 10+ years.
Force10 - Leader in port density and switch performance, though
  it's been a couple years since I've seen a new
  product, most of their products are 4+ years old but
  still compete extremely well even today. NetBSD next-gen
  OS, still kind of new. Line rate since their inception
  almost a decade ago. Looks like they just released a new
  10gig chassis yesterday. Was the undisputed 10gig leader
  for a while, others have since caught up, though this
  new product may put them way ahead again haven't looked
  in depth.
Foundry(now Brocade) - Another leader in port density and
  switch performance, best known perhaps for it's interface
  clone of IOS. So if your used to Cisco you can adapt to
  these pretty easily and get much better performance. Not
  sure where they are at on their next gen OS. Line rate
  for a long time, perhaps 10+ years too. Unlike Extreme
  and Force10 Foundry offers products targeted specifically
  to do high performance routing(NetIron), as well as
  load balancing(ServerIron). Most of their edge switches
  are 1.5U instead of 1U, though they include hot swap
  internal power supplies. Most vendors rely on external
  power supplies for redundancy. Foundry used to have some
  non Ethernet offerings(e.g. T1, DS3 etc), but have since
  like many others eliminated all non Ethernet products.
Cisco - overpriced, under performing almost across the board, I'm
looking at replacing some older Cisco 7300 routers(which
they still sell), with something from Foundry, their LOW
end router is more than seven hundred times faster than
the Cisco 7300, and the price is comparable. Cisco has
a broad range of operating systems. Management is
incredibly complex. Can be a one stop shop for most things
network related, but while they share a common brand don't
let them fool you into making you think they are well
integrated and easy to use.

Juniper - Somewhat new to the basic switch space though their
48-port 1Gig 1U switches are feature packed with gobs of
flash, RAM, hot swap fan trays and power supplies
(rare for a 1U switch), and a very fast stacking port(over
100Gbps if I recall). Juniper is of course best known for
it's routers, and more recently firewalls after it bought
NetScreen(?) a few years ago. I think their new switches
use the same BSD(FreeBSD perhaps?) based OS that their
high end routers do, if so it's very mature on the
software side.

3COM - Not familiar to much with their recent products though
   personally weary of the company itself, it's working hard
   to get back into the enterprise space after abandoning it
   a decade or more ago.

Linksys/NetGear/D-link/etc - if this is your price point then
that's your price point, I'd suggest at least getting
a good set of layer 3 switches for the network core.


I personally have kept very close eyes on Extreme, Force10 and
Foundry's product lines for 5 years or so, and more recently
looking at Juniper as well. The sort of technology behind these
products is very interesting to me, I'm the sort of person who
will spend hours reading data and spec sheets on them.

I only have personal experience with Extreme, Cisco, and Linksys
(1 switch).

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[CentOS] Is there a web-based server status package?

2009-03-24 Thread Xn Nooby
I have a small squirrelmail server using Postfix  Dovecot, and I
would like to add a web-based status screen to remotely check its
health. Is there a preferred packaged for doing this?

I mostly want to monitor disk space usage, and CPU utilization.
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Rob Townley
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
 Rob Townley schrieb:

 Every time i read these posts they are filled with contradictions in
 that one person loves HP and hates CiscoLinksys while another hates
 HP.  Let's get a more scientific approach.  Switch performance still
 depends on the NICS in the client machines.


 Uhm. No. Not any longer, AFAIK.
 At least, once you leave the SOHO region (AFAIK, the OP wanted = 48
 ports. I don't want to work in such a home-office, really...).

There are 48 port SOHO priced switches nowadays.  i am often not very
impressed by network performance and need standardized benchmarks to
figure out if there may be an issue at the NIC driver, switch or on up
to a virus shield.   It was either a ~2004 Dell Power magazine or
~2004 Network World article that mentioned that 3Com NICs didn't
perform well with Cisco switches and vice versa.  They also wrote
about other vendors and i don't remember any of them performing
extremely well across vendor.   Now that NICs are a commodity, the
problem could be worse.

 Backplane-performance is an issue.
 Especially with iSCSI.

 Also, as demonstrated, different switch-vendors offer different
 feature-sets at different price-levels.
 There's also the compatibility-question: if you already have a number of
 devices, the new ones must fit in well into the existing landscape
 (VLANs etc.pp.)



 Performance data would need to have details such as the NIC on the
 client machine and other hw characteristics.  How many machines ran
 the benchmark simultaneously.  Cat5e vs Cat6 or Fiber connected.



 That's already more variables in the equation than is healthy for a
 typical benchmark...


 http://www.netperf.org           ( OpenSource started by HP, )
 ftp://ftp.netperf.org/netperf/    (Looks like 2.4.4 is the latest
 version.  Not sure what 4.0.0 is)

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/jnetperf  (java version of netperf)

 There may be another project from some Italian Professor, but didn't
 find it in my bookmarks.

 Yes, there is the unix way of time dd ... but that wouldn't work for
 windows clients and does not give enough details in terms of metrics.


 Switch performance is extremely difficult to measure IMO. You need
 enough clients to make sure you're not accidentally measuring
 client-performance.

Agreed, this is a difficult complex system, but some baseline
measurements would still be worthwhile to rule out some problems.
Client NIC performance would be valuable info.


 In the end, the only thing that counts is real-world data. Netperf
 et.al. don't really provide a real-world scenario, where you have a
 mixture of packet-sizes and protocols.
 Same for artifical load/packet generators (ixia et.al).

netperf could use some work, but some generic baseline perf data would
still be very valuable to rule basic problems.   Somebody could post
an ethereal packet capture of varying packet sizes and protocols that
could be replayed on client machines.


 Because (almost) nobody has the time to do extensive tests, past
 real-world experience/performance data and word-of-mouth becomes an
 integral part in choosing such products.
 That, or you have enough money to buy everything from Cisco ;-)

In theory, pxe booting a test image on all machines in the lan (maybe
via drbl / CloneZilla) with netperf and running overnight could
automate this process.  The reality is that it can take much much more
time to track down where a performance bottleneck is on a
heterogeneous LAN.

What performance data are you referring to?



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Re: [CentOS] Is there a web-based server status package?

2009-03-24 Thread Marko A. Jennings
On Tue, March 24, 2009 12:02 pm, Xn Nooby wrote:
 I have a small squirrelmail server using Postfix  Dovecot, and I
 would like to add a web-based status screen to remotely check its
 health. Is there a preferred packaged for doing this?

 I mostly want to monitor disk space usage, and CPU utilization.

You might want to try munin: http://munin.projects.linpro.no/
It is available through the rpmforge repo and is easy to set up.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Duffner
Rob Townley schrieb:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de 
 wrote:
   
 Rob Townley schrieb:
 
 Every time i read these posts they are filled with contradictions in
 that one person loves HP and hates CiscoLinksys while another hates
 HP.  Let's get a more scientific approach.  Switch performance still
 depends on the NICS in the client machines.
   
 Uhm. No. Not any longer, AFAIK.
 At least, once you leave the SOHO region (AFAIK, the OP wanted = 48
 ports. I don't want to work in such a home-office, really...).
 

 There are 48 port SOHO priced switches nowadays.


I see your point.
I only imagined the home office that would need 48 ports ;-)


   i am often not very
 impressed by network performance and need standardized benchmarks to
 figure out if there may be an issue at the NIC driver, switch or on up
 to a virus shield.   It was either a ~2004 Dell Power magazine or
 ~2004 Network World article that mentioned that 3Com NICs didn't
 perform well with Cisco switches and vice versa.

Hm. I think I saw something like that (I was at a site that used
Catalyst 6500-switches to connect desktops - in 2001).
Autosensing was useless...

   They also wrote
 about other vendors and i don't remember any of them performing
 extremely well across vendor.   Now that NICs are a commodity, the
 problem could be worse.

   

Here, autosensing sometimes doesn't work. Then, you've got to set it
fixed on both the client and the switch-port.



 What performance data are you referring to?
   


What you gathered in the past from other switches on your LAN - and what
you read on the internet ;-))
I'm not a networking-guy (switches are done by someone else here).



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Re: [CentOS] update yum

2009-03-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 3-24-2009 2:27 AM madunix spake the following:
 Can you help me further in this issue, should i disable rpm forge ..
 
You should at least properly configure priorities. ust having the plugin
running is not enough.
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Rob Townley
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
 Rob Townley schrieb:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de 
 wrote:

 Rob Townley schrieb:

 Every time i read these posts they are filled with contradictions in
 that one person loves HP and hates CiscoLinksys while another hates
 HP.  Let's get a more scientific approach.  Switch performance still
 depends on the NICS in the client machines.

 Uhm. No. Not any longer, AFAIK.
 At least, once you leave the SOHO region (AFAIK, the OP wanted = 48
 ports. I don't want to work in such a home-office, really...).


 There are 48 port SOHO priced switches nowadays.


 I see your point.
 I only imagined the home office that would need 48 ports ;-)


   i am often not very
 impressed by network performance and need standardized benchmarks to
 figure out if there may be an issue at the NIC driver, switch or on up
 to a virus shield.   It was either a ~2004 Dell Power magazine or
 ~2004 Network World article that mentioned that 3Com NICs didn't
 perform well with Cisco switches and vice versa.

 Hm. I think I saw something like that (I was at a site that used
 Catalyst 6500-switches to connect desktops - in 2001).
 Autosensing was useless...

   They also wrote
 about other vendors and i don't remember any of them performing
 extremely well across vendor.   Now that NICs are a commodity, the
 problem could be worse.



 Here, autosensing sometimes doesn't work. Then, you've got to set it
 fixed on both the client and the switch-port.



 What performance data are you referring to?



 What you gathered in the past from other switches on your LAN - and what
 you read on the internet ;-))
 I'm not a networking-guy (switches are done by someone else here).



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You did read it because they autosensing was a big factor in the
article(s).  However, iirc, for some combinations of switches and nics
still didn't perform well with autosensing off.
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread dnk


Look there really are 3 tiers for network equipment. The first two
tiers all give wire speed performance and have managed layer 2 and 3
options. The last tier is for consumer home use.

Tier 1 might have high-end Cisco, Juniper or Nortel (and others) that
have modular enclosures redundant power supplies and heavenly price
tags. These are typically used in large enterprises that can afford
them.

Tier 2 might have Dell Powerconnects and HP Procurves and Cisco 2000
series products. These are good stable well performing products and
are gobbled up in heaps by small and medium businesses. These are the
usual choice for small enterprises and come in managed and unmanaged,
layer 2 of layer 3, power over Ethernet of not or a combination of
those.

Tier 3 contain your Linksys, DLink and Zyxel brand products. They
basically just get the job done, but might need reset every now and
then and probably can't run more then 2 ports at a full 1GBe
simultaneously. They are for home use and are prices as such. Some
will be better then others and some might be very good, but they are
not designed for business use and thus shouldn't be used as such.

-Ross



I had a reseller in here yesterday, and apparently the linksys (higher  
end) lines are being merged into the cisco lines. So the linksys gear  
will just be branded Cisco. I am not sure if this is all linksys gear,  
or just what they cal the higher end stuff. But I am trying to confirm  
from a cisco rep. Wonder how it will effect the above mentioned tiers  
which in general were true.


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread nate
dnk wrote:

 I had a reseller in here yesterday, and apparently the linksys (higher
 end) lines are being merged into the cisco lines. So the linksys gear
 will just be branded Cisco. I am not sure if this is all linksys gear,
 or just what they cal the higher end stuff. But I am trying to confirm
 from a cisco rep. Wonder how it will effect the above mentioned tiers
 which in general were true.

It won't, even with the Cisco name they'll be pitched/priced to target
the low budget space. They may be able to better compete with the HP's
and Dell's(forgot they had switches..) of the world though with the
better brand recognition of Cisco vs Linksys. Probably get a 25%
increase in price for the same product with the new branding too.

nate

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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Morten Torstensen wrote:
 Can gcc/make be distributed? Could people dedicate their CPU time ala 
 SETI or fold...@home to test builds and compiles? I am not sure where 
 the bottleneck is, and I know throwing money and manpower does not 
 always help when it comes to software development :)

There were a bunch of things that came together at the same time. So yes 
perhaps more people would have helped here - but that again comes with 
its own issues. Things that could have also helped are much faster 
internet links, beefier build systems, access to certain data, more time 
away from $DayJob, an economy and industry that wasent taking a crap, 
people not having to work 10 to 12 hrs a day to (a) keep their jobs (b) 
make up for work that other people who didn't have their jobs anymore 
left behind. Add salt and spice to taste.

Some of these problems are solvable if they stay stationary. 
Unfortunately, you will find that none of them are.

A lot of what CentOS is - directly maps back to the people involved, and 
the process's being used. Take those away and the idea of centos is 
becomes irrelevant. And for those who dont care much about either of 
these two things, there is always an exit route, or a dozen.

There are about two dozen people involved with the centos 'team', and I 
am sure each and everyone of us would like to spend more and more time 
and resources on the project - but there are limits that must be honored.

Also, were not getting ready for 5.4. were going to be getting ready for 
4.8 first, then a CentOS6 Beta and then a 5.4.


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The following errata for CentOS-2 have been built and uploaded to the
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RHSA-2009:0341-01 Moderate: curl security update

Files available:
curl-7.8-3.rhel2.i386.rpm
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More details are available from the RedHat web site at
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The easy way to make sure you are up to date with all the latest patches
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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Lanny Marcus wrote:
 The $ the project receives goes for hardware and network connectivity.

That is not true.

Money donated to the project goes to sit in a pot. Resources that we use 
to do things on and with are on machines that we ( developers, centos 
team and contributors ) pay for, manage and run ourselves. CentOS does 
not subsidise or pay for any of it.

This also includes our network bills, phone bills for support calls and 
conf calls that we are sometimes part of and any other overhead.

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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Money donated to the project goes to sit in a pot. Resources that we use 
 to do things on and with are on machines that we ( developers, centos 
 team and contributors ) pay for, manage and run ourselves. CentOS does 
 not subsidise or pay for any of it.

Just to clarify - this is about the machines we use, the centos team.

mirror.centos.org runs off donated hardware, sitting in donated space, 
using only donated network. This also includes the webserver, the 
mailserver and almost everything inside *.centos.org. It costs the 
project nothing.

A direct fallout from the efforts by some of us in talking to and 
educating hosting companies about CentOS. Which reminds me, if you are a 
company with a few mb/sec link to spare and want to offer us something - 
dont bother with a financial donation, host a machine for us instead :) 
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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Marko A. Jennings
On Tue, March 24, 2009 1:13 pm, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Money donated to the project goes to sit in a pot. Resources that we use
 to do things on and with are on machines that we ( developers, centos
 team and contributors ) pay for, manage and run ourselves. CentOS does
 not subsidise or pay for any of it.

 Just to clarify - this is about the machines we use, the centos team.

 mirror.centos.org runs off donated hardware, sitting in donated space,
 using only donated network. This also includes the webserver, the
 mailserver and almost everything inside *.centos.org. It costs the
 project nothing.


Karanbir, what is the donated money used for?

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread John Doe

One thing to remember is that you usualy get what you paid for...
I found out the hard way when my boss pushed me to buy brand XYZ PowerC... 
switches because they were a half the price of other brands/models.
It said web-managed... and it really meant web (only) managed (not even SSL 
encrypted!).
No snmp, no ssh...  Just a dumb unencrypted webpage with a few stats.
Could not even grab the web page to parse it because you could get the stats 
for 1 port at a time through an html form!
No dhcp for its management IP so, if you reactivate the management access 
(disabled it for obvious reasons), it will use a default fixed IP that will of 
course conflict with another equipment...

JD


  

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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:18:58AM -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
 And then maybe you can take a breath?
 
 You all are very appreciated. Don't let 10 or 20 (l)users make you
 think that the other million or so aren't happy!!  ;-)

I certainly hope this isn't in response to those of us who have piped
in on this thread.  I know the OP's intention was to find a way to
help.

No one in this thread has been complaining; just users of various
skillsets trying to figure out how best to help out.

I'm sure that's what you meant though :-)

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Re: [CentOS] question about top output

2009-03-24 Thread Scott Silva
on 3-24-2009 7:30 AM Greenseid, Joseph M (IS) spake the following:
 Can you swap the disk drives with a node that works OK?
 
 i will try that when i get back to the data center and can swap the nodes.
 
 
 Have you compared BIOS setups? Something tells me this is like
 interrupts related. Could even be poorly seated hardware: memory, power
 or data cables, video, etc.

 IIRC, BIOS settings can also have an effect there.
 
 all the bios were flashed to the same version and configured the same
 before we started with these systems. 
 
 something must be wrong with the node for it to run slow, but i just
 didn't understand how top was showing such weird output. 
 
 thanks for the suggestions.
 
Could it be something more simple like a memory module in the wrong slot
causing the system to not page-interleave the ram? I have had this happen when
I depended on others to set up multiple systems.


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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Scott Silva wrote:
 Also, were not getting ready for 5.4. were going to be getting ready for 
 4.8 first, then a CentOS6 Beta and then a 5.4.
 
 And then maybe you can take a breath?

Thats a good point. One thing that I hope to work towards and I feel we 
are getting setup to do is get a constant trot going, so it does not 
come down to a mad rush, then the quiet bits to be followed by a mad 
dash again. Automating as much as possible, and spreading the 
need-people-for bits of the process seems to be the way to go.

5.3 should ship in a few days, once its all done. I'll post a much 
longer version of the paragraph above. It would be really good to have 
more ideas and thought process's thrown in

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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Florin Andrei
Scott Silva wrote:
 on 3-24-2009 9:53 AM Karanbir Singh spake the following:

 Also, were not getting ready for 5.4. were going to be getting ready for 
 4.8 first, then a CentOS6 Beta and then a 5.4.
 
 And then maybe you can take a breath?

Yeah, no kidding. This is a lot of work, no matter how much automation 
is involved.

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a web-based server status package?

2009-03-24 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com:

 I have a small squirrelmail server using Postfix  Dovecot, and I
 would like to add a web-based status screen to remotely check its
 health. Is there a preferred packaged for doing this?

 I mostly want to monitor disk space usage, and CPU utilization.
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Virtualmin GPL does this for me quite nicely, has a good web GUI etc.

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a web-based server status package?

2009-03-24 Thread Florin Andrei
Marko A. Jennings wrote:
 
 You might want to try munin: http://munin.projects.linpro.no/
 It is available through the rpmforge repo and is easy to set up.

It's also on EPEL, and that's a repository that tends to create fewer 
issues.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread John R Pierce
Ross Walker wrote:
 Look there really are 3 tiers for network equipment. The first two  
 tiers all give wire speed performance and have managed layer 2 and 3  
 options. The last tier is for consumer home use.

 Tier 1 might have high-end Cisco, Juniper or Nortel (and others) that  
 have modular enclosures redundant power supplies and heavenly price  
 tags. These are typically used in large enterprises that can afford  
 them.

 Tier 2 might have Dell Powerconnects and HP Procurves and Cisco 2000  
 series products. These are good stable well performing products and  
 are gobbled up in heaps by small and medium businesses. These are the  
 usual choice for small enterprises and come in managed and unmanaged,  
 layer 2 of layer 3, power over Ethernet of not or a combination of  
 those.

 Tier 3 contain your Linksys, DLink and Zyxel brand products. They  
 basically just get the job done, but might need reset every now and  
 then and probably can't run more then 2 ports at a full 1GBe  
 simultaneously. They are for home use and are prices as such. Some  
 will be better then others and some might be very good, but they are  
 not designed for business use and thus shouldn't be used as such.
   

I've got a 24 port Netgear GSM7224 Layer 2 managed GigE switch in my 
lab, I'd put it squarely in tier 2   its wirespeed on all 24 ports, 
and capable of supporting jumbo frames, channel bonding, VLANs, etc etc 
etc.   4 of its 24 ports are crosswired to SBIC optical ports so you can 
use it with singlemode or multimode fiber links.   its in a metal rack 
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Re: [CentOS] Is there a web-based server status package?

2009-03-24 Thread Xn Nooby
I'll get it from EPEL, since it is Fedora-sponsored.


On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Florin Andrei flo...@andrei.myip.org wrote:
 Marko A. Jennings wrote:

 You might want to try munin: http://munin.projects.linpro.no/
 It is available through the rpmforge repo and is easy to set up.

 It's also on EPEL, and that's a repository that tends to create fewer
 issues.

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#howtouse

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[CentOS] Limiting maildir sizes with Postfix?

2009-03-24 Thread Xn Nooby
I have a small Squirrelmail server, using Postfix  Dovecot. I am
trying to limit the amount of mail a user can get. The
mailbox_size_limit value does not seem to be being honored. I am
using the Maildir directory format.

From googling, it appears that mailbox_size_limit applies to a
single file (mbox format?), and that it does not work with Maildirs.
Is this correct?

How should I limit the Mailbox size of the users?

I'm not very familiar with Linux quotas, but I think that is my only
other choice.
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Re: [CentOS] mmonit - Permission denied errot

2009-03-24 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan
raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just downloaded the mmonit from mmonit.com site on my CentOS box
 untarred-unizipped it.
 As per the documentation, I dutifully typed
 ./bin/mmonit
 and it is refusing to run. I am running this as root and SELinux is disabled.

There is something you should have installed, first, that was
recommended to me, by someone on the list, a month or so ago. I think
the name is checkinstall and it comes from RPMForge.  It monitors what
you install, so you can uninstall it. If checkinstall is not the name
of the package, I hope someone on the list will provide the correct
name for you. You can install it with Yum, if you have the RPMForge
Repository configured. The other problem(s) you are having, someone
else will hopefully help you with. snip
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Re: [CentOS] Limiting maildir sizes with Postfix?

2009-03-24 Thread nate
Xn Nooby wrote:

 How should I limit the Mailbox size of the users?

 I'm not very familiar with Linux quotas, but I think that is my only
 other choice.

That is a good option, if you happen to be using Courier for your
IMAP/POP3 this option exists as well:

http://www.courier-mta.org/imap/README.maildirquota.html

I have no experience with it myself(though I do use Courier in
some places, just without quotas).

nate


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Re: [CentOS] update yum

2009-03-24 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:09 AM, madunix madu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am trying to update my wine i get the following ..
 [] download]# yum update wine*
 Loading priorities plugin
 Loading fastestmirror plugin
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * epel: ftp.nluug.nl
  * rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net
  * base: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
  * updates: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
  * addons: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
  * extras: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
 0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections

As someone else pointed out, you really need to get Priority working,
before you trash that box. When I installed EPEL, a month or so ago, I
gave it a very low priority, the lowest priority of any of the
Repositories I use. The number of packages being excluded, on my
CentOS 5.2 (32 bit) Desktop increased from approximately 350 to 1560,
when EPEL was added.
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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 The $ the project receives goes for hardware and network connectivity.

 That is not true.

 Money donated to the project goes to sit in a pot. Resources that we use
 to do things on and with are on machines that we ( developers, centos
 team and contributors ) pay for, manage and run ourselves. CentOS does
 not subsidise or pay for any of it.

 This also includes our network bills, phone bills for support calls and
 conf calls that we are sometimes part of and any other overhead.

What you explained certainly increases (if that's possible), the
respect and appreciation I have for the CentOS developers.
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Re: [CentOS] update yum

2009-03-24 Thread Phil Schaffner
Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:09 AM, madunix madu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am trying to update my wine i get the following ..
 [] download]# yum update wine*
 Loading priorities plugin
 Loading fastestmirror plugin
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * epel: ftp.nluug.nl
  * rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net
  * base: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
  * updates: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
  * addons: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
  * extras: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
 0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
 As someone else pointed out, you really need to get Priority working,
 before you trash that box. When I installed EPEL, a month or so ago, I
 gave it a very low priority, the lowest priority of any of the
 Repositories I use. The number of packages being excluded, on my
 CentOS 5.2 (32 bit) Desktop increased from approximately 350 to 1560,
 when EPEL was added.

Somewhat OT, but I find that a combination of priorities and excludes is 
required to get what I want.  I also use a low priority for EPEL but, 
for instance, want their later rkhunter version so it is necessary to 
exclude that in rpmforge.repo to have it install/update.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Les Mikesell
Rainer Duffner wrote:

   i am often not very
 impressed by network performance and need standardized benchmarks to
 figure out if there may be an issue at the NIC driver, switch or on up
 to a virus shield.   It was either a ~2004 Dell Power magazine or
 ~2004 Network World article that mentioned that 3Com NICs didn't
 perform well with Cisco switches and vice versa.
 
 Hm. I think I saw something like that (I was at a site that used
 Catalyst 6500-switches to connect desktops - in 2001).
 Autosensing was useless...

They've had that fixed for most of this century...

   They also wrote
 about other vendors and i don't remember any of them performing
 extremely well across vendor.   Now that NICs are a commodity, the
 problem could be worse.


 Here, autosensing sometimes doesn't work. Then, you've got to set it
 fixed on both the client and the switch-port.

Usually the problem is that due to earlier Cisco autosensing issues you 
have set the switch configuration to not negotiate and replaced the 
connected device with one that does.  With current equipmement and 
software auto negotiation almost always works, but if one end has been 
locked, the other has to assume half-duplex which is always wrong.

If you still have very old equipment you might still have to lock a port 
or two.  Strangely, none of the usual network monitoring tools will 
detect a duplex mismatch - although if they are both Cisco's they will 
see it with CDP and log it.  And to make this slightly relevant to 
Centos, net-snmp doesn't seem to expose the duplex setting of an 
interface if a tool did want to check.

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Re: [CentOS] Limiting maildir sizes with Postfix?

2009-03-24 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009, nate wrote:
Xn Nooby wrote:

 How should I limit the Mailbox size of the users?

 I'm not very familiar with Linux quotas, but I think that is my only
 other choice.

That is a good option, if you happen to be using Courier for your
IMAP/POP3 this option exists as well:

http://www.courier-mta.org/imap/README.maildirquota.html

I have no experience with it myself(though I do use Courier in
some places, just without quotas).

IHMO, by the time the mail is handed off for delivery into the
mail store, it's too late as one cannot return an appropriate 422
(mailbox full or user over quota) SMTP response to the sender.

Our solution has been to use a postfix hash table under
smtpd_recipient_restrictions which generates this response for
users who are over quota.  This hash is maintained by a cron job
that runs periodically to get users who are over their quotas.
The cron job parses ``repquota -a'' output to build the table,
and is quite fast.  One could also use an MySQL or postgresql
table for the same purpose, although I suspect the hash tables
are more efficient.

Bill
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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-24 Thread Ross Walker
On Mar 24, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org  
wrote:

 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 The $ the project receives goes for hardware and network  
 connectivity.

 That is not true.

 Money donated to the project goes to sit in a pot. Resources that we  
 use
 to do things on and with are on machines that we ( developers, centos
 team and contributors ) pay for, manage and run ourselves. CentOS does
 not subsidise or pay for any of it.

 This also includes our network bills, phone bills for support calls  
 and
 conf calls that we are sometimes part of and any other overhead.

How about setting up a dynamic build environment on Amazon's C2?

How about forming a formal non-profit organization around CentOS with  
contributors.

I'm pretty sure companies like Google and Amazon as well as a lot of  
big ISPs would contribute large money to keep CentOS going strong.  
What is needed is someone who can knock on those doors, raise those  
funds.

There is no reason CentOS can't be run like Wikipedia or Sourceforge.  
Draft a charter.

If a movement like CentOS is going to survive it's going to have to  
grow and the only way it can grow is by solicitating donations then  
depending on the offered ones it recieves now.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Luke S Crawford
Rob Townley rob.town...@gmail.com writes:

 i would like to see real performance data via something like netperf
 with client machines booted from a standardized LiveCD, then
 peformance under their Linux Distribution and performance under
 Windows.


Performance data is not the most important metric, at least for me.  

For me, the big problem is reliability and security.   My problem with 
used cisco is that getting access to the firmware usually costs more than
the used parts I'm buying... If I'm going to use the thing as a router at the
head of my network, I want to be sure that the thing can be secured, and 
sometimes that requires a firmware update. 

If someone sold support contracts (by support contracts, I mean firmware.
I don't need help, I just need the firmware.) for old switches for
less than the value of the switch, I'd buy.If someone sold 
switches with open source firmware, I'd buy.  (I've bought myself an 
OpenGear console server instead of a cheaper used cyclades for similar 
reasons.)  

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Les Mikesell
Luke S Crawford wrote:
 
 i would like to see real performance data via something like netperf
 with client machines booted from a standardized LiveCD, then
 peformance under their Linux Distribution and performance under
 Windows.
 
 
 Performance data is not the most important metric, at least for me.  
 
 For me, the big problem is reliability and security.   My problem with 
 used cisco is that getting access to the firmware usually costs more than
 the used parts I'm buying... If I'm going to use the thing as a router at the
 head of my network, I want to be sure that the thing can be secured, and 
 sometimes that requires a firmware update. 
 
 If someone sold support contracts (by support contracts, I mean firmware.
 I don't need help, I just need the firmware.) for old switches for
 less than the value of the switch, I'd buy.If someone sold 
 switches with open source firmware, I'd buy.  (I've bought myself an 
 OpenGear console server instead of a cheaper used cyclades for similar 
 reasons.)  

If you get a service contract on any piece of Cisco equipment, you 
typically get download access to all of the firmware updates.  However, 
in a lot of scenarios there are several choices, each with a different 
set of bugs that you won't know about unless you open a TAC case and 
tell an engineer exactly what features have to work for you.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Network switches

2009-03-24 Thread Ross Walker
On Mar 24, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

 Luke S Crawford wrote:

 i would like to see real performance data via something like netperf
 with client machines booted from a standardized LiveCD, then
 peformance under their Linux Distribution and performance under
 Windows.


 Performance data is not the most important metric, at least for me.

 For me, the big problem is reliability and security.   My problem  
 with
 used cisco is that getting access to the firmware usually costs  
 more than
 the used parts I'm buying... If I'm going to use the thing as a  
 router at the
 head of my network, I want to be sure that the thing can be  
 secured, and
 sometimes that requires a firmware update.

 If someone sold support contracts (by support contracts, I mean  
 firmware.
 I don't need help, I just need the firmware.) for old switches for
 less than the value of the switch, I'd buy.If someone sold
 switches with open source firmware, I'd buy.  (I've bought myself an
 OpenGear console server instead of a cheaper used cyclades for  
 similar
 reasons.)

 If you get a service contract on any piece of Cisco equipment, you
 typically get download access to all of the firmware updates.   
 However,
 in a lot of scenarios there are several choices, each with a different
 set of bugs that you won't know about unless you open a TAC case and
 tell an engineer exactly what features have to work for you.

Oh God, I hate the most ugly Cisco compatibility matrix. What a horror  
show! It's like a big crap shoot picking a firmware image!

I actually like the Dell Powerconnects. They are solid performers and  
offer switches of all capabilites.

A 48 port Gbe layer 3 managed (web and cli) powerconnect with PoE on  
all 48 ports (not 24 out of the 48 like some similar Ciscos) goes for  
around $2000 a comparable Cisco one goes for around $3800.

-Ross
  
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[CentOS] Dock an application in system tray

2009-03-24 Thread Senthilraj
Hi,

Im using CentOS 4.4 , and wanted to dock an application into my System 
tray(without using any external tool like Alldock, etc,.).

Thanks,
Senthilraj
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