[CentOS-docs] centos 5.3 release notes in colloquial Arabic
I have been working with a new translator for the project and particularly the wiki (whom I have known for perhaps 18 months), and he has put up a test translation for the centos 5.3 release notes at: http://www.msamir.net/centos-release-notes/ I have encouraged him to subscribe here, and to self-introduce. He remarks that there is not a clear editor for right to left authoring in our wiki. Does any one have a ready pointer on how to do this more easily? - Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] centos 5.3 release notes in colloquial Arabic
R P Herrold wrote: I have encouraged him to subscribe here, and to self-introduce. He remarks that there is not a clear editor for right to left authoring in our wiki. Does any one have a ready pointer on how to do this more easily? Yes. Either use the vimperator plugin for firefox http://vimperator.org/trac/wiki/Vimperator which gives firefox a nice and user friendly vim interface - this enables you to press CTRL-i in textareas and open those in gvim. (Im loving it!) Or use the It's all text addon which doesn't give firefox a nice user friendly interface, but enables you to edit textareas with your favourite Editor: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125. Cheers, Ralph pgpYSQlxh4Idq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-es] Servidor de impresion libre
Hola a todos que pena molestar pero tengo varios servidores con centos 4 en los cuales he configurado la impresion con samba, pero en algunas ocasiones se me cuelga mucho y las impresiones no salen por lo tanto en algunos de mis clientes he instalado el winlpd para las maquinas windows esto me funciona muy bien, pero esto es un software licenciado, y algunos clientes no me aceptan esto, he buscado en la red algun programa simpilar a winlpd que me pormita compartir la impresora con LPD y todos los que encuentro son licenciados no se si alguno de ustedes conoce algun servidor de impresion para TCP y que sea totalmente libre. O definitivamente me toco que los clientes instalen este y compren licencia. Muchas gracias Raúl Eduardo Arboleda Zapata Ingeniero de Sistemas Cel +573 300 620 66 13 Ola +573 312 288 90 86 Comcel Medellin, Antioquia Colombia, S.A. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Servidor de impresion libre
Podrías probar a usar CUPS, que funciona para windows, linux y mac lo mismo te sirve!! suerteee!!! - Mensaje original De: Raul Eduardo Arboleda Zapata raularbol...@une.net.co Para: centos centos-es@centos.org centos-es@centos.org Enviado: martes, 31 de marzo, 2009 9:04:15 Asunto: [CentOS-es] Servidor de impresion libre Hola a todos que pena molestar pero tengo varios servidores con centos 4 en los cuales he configurado la impresion con samba, pero en algunas ocasiones se me cuelga mucho y las impresiones no salen por lo tanto en algunos de mis clientes he instalado el winlpd para las maquinas windows esto me funciona muy bien, pero esto es un software licenciado, y algunos clientes no me aceptan esto, he buscado en la red algun programa simpilar a winlpd que me pormita compartir la impresora con LPD y todos los que encuentro son licenciados no se si alguno de ustedes conoce algun servidor de impresion para TCP y que sea totalmente libre. O definitivamente me toco que los clientes instalen este y compren licencia. Muchas gracias Raúl Eduardo Arboleda Zapata Ingeniero de Sistemas Cel +573 300 620 66 13 Ola +573 312 288 90 86 Comcel Medellin, Antioquia Colombia, S.A. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Logs de servidor de correo
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 11:30 -0400, Carlos Enzo Lazo Basaure wrote: si, pero es que tengo una persona que me dice que sus correos no entran y mi server continuamente tira ese error exclusivamente con su servidor, de correo . Me comunique con el admin del server de correo remoto y me dice que alla le tira error de time out y que le pasa exclusivamente con mi server. y eso no quita q pueda ser problema del server al otro lado. algunos MTA dan timeout debido a la demora en transmitir los contenidos o por esperar algun encabezado o forma de comunicarse de tu server. ya q lograste comunicarte con el admin del otro server, manten esa comunicacion, el dice q le da timeout tu server, entonces pidele q active logs mas verbosos para ver la razon del timeout desde su server, incluso descartar si es el server haciendo q el admin al otro lado haga un telnet al puerto 25 y envie el correo. Asi como tu como admin estas preocupado por tu user q no recibe, el tiene q preocuparse por su user q no puede enviarlos. Igual tu, aumenta lo mas posible el nivel de logs de tu sendmail (creo q se puede lograr entrando al init script o al sysconfig/sendmail y agregar - cuantas mas v mejor.) sin mayores datos no es posible a los miembros de esta lista hacer magia para saber q pasa en esta situacion, tu estas en posibilidad de obtener mas datos q nosotros, aprovechalo. -- Yonsy Solis (aka BlackHand) ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Servidor de impresion libre
Raul: 1.- NO tengas pena en escribir a esta lista o a cualquier otra de software libre, el software libre vive por eso, por ayuda de unos a otros... (NO colaboracion = NO software libre) 2. Monica tiene una buena solucion, y si no es buena para tu caso 3.- Como describes el problema, parece que las impresoras no tienen un puerto de red, si es asi, puedes solucionarlo comprando un print server http://www.google.com/products?q=print+server y apuntas cualquier impresion a esta IP, y puedes imprimir desde cualquier OS y te olvidas de utilizar valiosos recursos de servidores que siempre necesitan otras configuraciones. Seguro encuentras uno de estos en Medellin. espero sea de ayuda Saludos Julio ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] torrents de centos-5.3 ya están li stos
ya bajé el de 32 y el de 64bits y sigo seeding para ayudarles. mientras sale el anuncio oficial puedes irle bajando de http://www.karan.org/mock/5.3/ y no olvides dejarlo seedear después de bajado para ayudar a los que bajen. saludos! epe ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Servidor de impresion libre
Revisa en http://ppr.trincoll.edu.. está un poco antiguo, pero nosotros lo usamos para nuestras impresoras de laboratorios de alumnos (unas 25 impresiones/mes y 4 impresoras) y funciona de maravillas. Saludos Ernesto Miranda R. Administrador de Sistemas Universidad Arturo Prat Iquique - Chile Raul Eduardo Arboleda Zapata escribió: Hola a todos que pena molestar pero tengo varios servidores con centos 4 en los cuales he configurado la impresion con samba, pero en algunas ocasiones se me cuelga mucho y las impresiones no salen por lo tanto en algunos de mis clientes he instalado el winlpd para las maquinas windows esto me funciona muy bien, pero esto es un software licenciado, y algunos clientes no me aceptan esto, he buscado en la red algun programa simpilar a winlpd que me pormita compartir la impresora con LPD y todos los que encuentro son licenciados no se si alguno de ustedes conoce algun servidor de impresion para TCP y que sea totalmente libre. O definitivamente me toco que los clientes instalen este y compren licencia. Muchas gracias Raúl Eduardo Arboleda Zapata Ingeniero de Sistemas Cel +573 300 620 66 13 Ola +573 312 288 90 86 Comcel Medellin, Antioquia Colombia, S.A. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] torrents de centos-5. 3 ya están lis tos
Desde ayer ya estan disponibles en todos los mirrors por ejemplo un mirror abierto: http://centos.west.mirrors.airband.net/5.3/isos/i386/ slds On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:06:14 -0400, César Sepúlveda B wrote El Martes, 31 de Marzo de 2009 10:02, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez escribió: ya bajé el de 32 y el de 64bits y sigo seeding para ayudarles. mientras sale el anuncio oficial puedes irle bajando de http://www.karan.org/mock/5.3/ y no olvides dejarlo seedear después de bajado para ayudar a los que bajen. saludos! epe ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es Descargando, para luego sedear por algunos días. Saludos!. pd: AL FIN! la 5.3! ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es --- Gino Alania Hurtado RPM #781455 Tl: 997279281 NITCOM Labs (http://www.nitcom.com) ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] torrents de centos-5. 3 ya están l istos
El Martes, 31 de Marzo de 2009 11:24, Gino Francisco Alania Hurtado escribió: Desde ayer ya estan disponibles en todos los mirrors por ejemplo un mirror abierto: http://centos.west.mirrors.airband.net/5.3/isos/i386/ slds On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:06:14 -0400, César Sepúlveda B wrote El Martes, 31 de Marzo de 2009 10:02, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez escribió: ya bajé el de 32 y el de 64bits y sigo seeding para ayudarles. mientras sale el anuncio oficial puedes irle bajando de http://www.karan.org/mock/5.3/ y no olvides dejarlo seedear después de bajado para ayudar a los que bajen. saludos! epe ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es Descargando, para luego sedear por algunos días. Saludos!. pd: AL FIN! la 5.3! ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es --- Gino Alania Hurtado RPM #781455 Tl: 997279281 NITCOM Labs (http://www.nitcom.com) ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es Los mirrors muy pocas veces alojan las imágenes de los dvd, si que es una buena idea ayudar a seedear estos. Saludos! pd: Aquí se permite el Top-Posting? ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] torrents de centos-5. 3 ya están li sto s
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.3/isos/i386/CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso En mi blog lo lance ayer la noticia y veo algunos aportes sobre mirrors que añaden algunas personas : http://lab.nitcom.com/galania/index.php/blog/show/Se-lanzo-Centos-5.3.html slds On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:27:56 -0400, César Sepúlveda B wrote El Martes, 31 de Marzo de 2009 11:24, Gino Francisco Alania Hurtado escribió: Desde ayer ya estan disponibles en todos los mirrors por ejemplo un mirror abierto: http://centos.west.mirrors.airband.net/5.3/isos/i386/ slds On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:06:14 -0400, César Sepúlveda B wrote El Martes, 31 de Marzo de 2009 10:02, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez escribió: ya bajé el de 32 y el de 64bits y sigo seeding para ayudarles. mientras sale el anuncio oficial puedes irle bajando de http://www.karan.org/mock/5.3/ y no olvides dejarlo seedear después de bajado para ayudar a los que bajen. saludos! epe ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es Descargando, para luego sedear por algunos días. Saludos!. pd: AL FIN! la 5.3! ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es --- Gino Alania Hurtado RPM #781455 Tl: 997279281 NITCOM Labs (http://www.nitcom.com) ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es Los mirrors muy pocas veces alojan las imágenes de los dvd, si que es una buena idea ayudar a seedear estos. Saludos! pd: Aquí se permite el Top-Posting? ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es --- Gino Alania Hurtado RPM #781455 Tl: 997279281 NITCOM Labs (http://www.nitcom.com) ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] torrents de centos-5. 3 ya están listo s
Gino Francisco Alania Hurtado wrote: ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.3/isos/i386/CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso En mi blog lo lance ayer la noticia y veo algunos aportes sobre mirrors que añaden algunas personas : http://lab.nitcom.com/galania/index.php/blog/show/Se-lanzo-Centos-5.3.html no top posting por favor en http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5 ya está el enlace de 5.3 publico. ahora falta que pongan 5/ - 5.3/ para que el update vaya suave. saludos epe ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas con Xen + windows 2003 server
Hola.. Gracias por la respuesta pero ante la premura me cambie a virtualBox, hasta ahora todo bien... funciona sin problemas. Atte. Mario Ganga Castro. Atte. 2009/3/31 Julio Martinez hul...@yahoo.com Hola Mario Respecto a tu inquietud lo unico que veo en el var/log/messages que tengo 2 sectores dañados y no puedo desmontar la particion envia los logs a la lista para poder verlos. y se cae y me deja tomada la particion donde esta el disco duro (el disco es un archivo) Quien se toma la particion? como obtienes este resultado? Has intentado recuperar arrancando la Maquinavirtual windows e intentando recuperar como si fuera una maquina fisica? Para hacer esto, crea una copia exacta de tu disco usando el comando [r...@localhost ~] dd if=/ruta/al/archivowindows of=/ruta/de/respaldo/archivo.img Esto funciona perfectamente como respaldo de la maquina que tienes siempre y cuando la maquina virtual debe estar apagada (# xm destroy VMWindows2003), asi por lo menos puedes hacer los test que quieras y estar seguro que no vas a danar tu Win2003 mas de lo que ya esta. Saludos Julio ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] live audio feed via telephone link
John R Pierce wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: There are some satellite internet providers that might work too, but the consumer-priced versions like Starband and Wildblue have usage caps on their normal plans so you'd have to work something out. and they ALL have very slow uplink speeds until you get into very expensive. They claim 128/256k uplink - but I don't know what you can actually sustain. Lots of internet stations stream at 28 or 56k - and you'd want to send a single stream to some well-connected place to fan out the connections. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] need trouble ticket system
Ray Leventhal wrote: Dhaval Thakar wrote: Hi, I need to implement trouble tracking system, we have 250 users in one premise 3 desktop support technicians. I need to implement trouble ticket system, where user will enter their application / other issues. Mail will be sent to technician available on duty. trouble ticket will be provided to user will be given close stat once resolved. Kindly suggest me one such application based on open source. There've been a lot of good recommendations on this thread but to my chagrin, osticket wasn't mentioned. I've used it with great success and am currently running it for my hosting business (which runs on CentOS). http://www.osticket.com Its very very robust and stable, with better-than-average community support. Of course, YMMV, but I think you'd do well to at least have a look. Feel free to email me offlist if you'd like to see it in action from the admin side of things. dear all, thanks for your valuable response. I'll go thorough recommended application on test machine. regards dhaval http://dhavalthakar.blogspot.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS5U2 waiting too long when ssh login to other linux servers
The waiting time is about 50s on my CentOS box now. yum remove
openssh* and yum install openssh* can't make it right. mv
~/.ssh{,.bak} not works either.
Here comes my tcpdump log, I am not an expert on SSH, Can anyone here
get me out of this?
Thanks
Ryan
[r...@centos5u2 ~]# tcpdump -s 1520 -nn port 22
tcpdump: WARNING: peth0: no IPv4 address assigned
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on peth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 1520 bytes
18:53:04.999533 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: S
1156562748:1156562748(0) win 5840 mss 1460,sackOK,timestamp 5097684
0,nop,wscale 7
18:53:04.999610 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: S
875773864:875773864(0) ack 1156562749 win 5792 mss
1460,sackOK,timestamp 20270023 5097684,nop,wscale 7
18:53:04.999654 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: . ack 1 win
46 nop,nop,timestamp 5097684 20270023
18:53:05.007974 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P 1:21(20)
ack 1 win 46 nop,nop,timestamp 20270032 5097684
18:53:05.008090 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: . ack 21 win
46 nop,nop,timestamp 5097687 20270032
18:53:05.008344 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P 1:21(20)
ack 21 win 46 nop,nop,timestamp 5097688 20270032
18:53:05.008471 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: . ack 21 win
46 nop,nop,timestamp 20270032 5097688
18:53:05.008715 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
21:733(712) ack 21 win 46 nop,nop,timestamp 5097688 20270032
18:53:05.009062 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: . ack 733
win 57 nop,nop,timestamp 20270033 5097688
18:53:05.009908 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
21:725(704) ack 733 win 57 nop,nop,timestamp 20270033 5097688
18:53:05.010074 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
733:757(24) ack 725 win 57 nop,nop,timestamp 5097688 20270033
18:53:05.012850 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
725:877(152) ack 757 win 57 nop,nop,timestamp 20270036 5097688
18:53:05.014563 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
757:901(144) ack 877 win 68 nop,nop,timestamp 5097689 20270036
18:53:05.037296 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
877:1597(720) ack 901 win 68 nop,nop,timestamp 20270061 5097689
18:53:05.039423 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
901:917(16) ack 1597 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5097695 20270061
18:53:05.079686 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: . ack 917
win 68 nop,nop,timestamp 20270103 5097695
18:53:05.079723 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
917:965(48) ack 1597 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5097705 20270103
18:53:05.079857 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: . ack 965
win 68 nop,nop,timestamp 20270104 5097705
18:53:05.079933 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
1597:1645(48) ack 965 win 68 nop,nop,timestamp 20270104 5097705
18:53:05.080312 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
965:1029(64) ack 1645 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5097706 20270104
18:53:05.082778 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
1645:1725(80) ack 1029 win 68 nop,nop,timestamp 20270106 5097706
18:53:05.120169 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: . ack 1725
win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5097716 20270106
18:54:15.679137 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
1029:1173(144) ack 1725 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5115354 20270106
18:54:15.681497 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
1725:1757(32) ack 1173 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 20340699 5115354
18:54:15.681533 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: . ack 1757
win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5115355 20340699
18:54:15.681887 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
1173:1237(64) ack 1757 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5115355 20340699
18:54:15.685510 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
1757:1805(48) ack 1237 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 20340703 5115355
18:54:15.685763 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
1237:1685(448) ack 1805 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5115356 20340703
18:54:15.701415 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
1805:1853(48) ack 1685 win 90 nop,nop,timestamp 20340719 5115356
18:54:15.701472 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
1853:1949(96) ack 1685 win 90 nop,nop,timestamp 20340719 5115356
18:54:15.701588 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: . ack 1949
win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5115360 20340719
18:54:15.840022 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
1949:2013(64) ack 1685 win 90 nop,nop,timestamp 20340858 5115360
18:54:15.840076 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
2013:2061(48) ack 1685 win 90 nop,nop,timestamp 20340858 5115360
18:54:15.840188 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: . ack 2061
win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5115394 20340858
18:54:15.844887 IP 192.168.7.252.22 192.168.7.24.52315: P
2061:2125(64) ack 1685 win 90 nop,nop,timestamp 20340862 5115394
18:54:15.884608 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: . ack 2125
win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5115406 20340862
18:55:15.170913 IP 192.168.7.24.52315 192.168.7.252.22: P
1685:1733(48) ack 2125 win 79 nop,nop,timestamp 5130226 20340862
18:55:15.171562 IP 192.168.7.252.22
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 20:29 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Rainer Duffner wrote: snip need it, seemingly) and hardly anybody documents (try to find a man- page for a hw-driver...) A driver without a man page is more useful than no driver at all... And a lot more exciting and dangerous too. -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS5U2 waiting too long when ssh login to other linux servers
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Ryan J M sync@gmail.com wrote:
The waiting time is about 50s on my CentOS box now. yum remove
openssh* and yum install openssh* can't make it right. mv
~/.ssh{,.bak} not works either.
Here comes my tcpdump log, I am not an expert on SSH, Can anyone here
get me out of this?
Usually ssh slowness is attributed to DNS problems with reverse
lookups. You give ssh a host name to connect to, and it does a query
to find the ip, then a reverse to make sure that the ip is who it
claims to be. If there are no records, ssh will happily wait for the
query to time out before proceeding. This is usually where people
complain about slowness on home networks or in some hosted
environments that aren't set up 100% correctly. The proper fix is to
correct the DNS issue. Some folks simply hand jam an entry into
/etc/hosts, or dive into the sshd_config and disable the check. How
you resolve this is up to you.
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[CentOS] installing centos from usb
Are there instructions on how to take the actual ISO install image (not a live image), put that iso file on a USB thumbdrive and install from that instead of DVD? I would be interested in putting a kickstart file on the USB also. so just plug in a USB and everything installs just the way I want/need. Thanks, Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS5U2 waiting too long when ssh login to other linux servers
You can disable DNS check in your ssh server.
In the /etc/ssh/sshd_config you set UseDNS to no
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:22, Jim Perrin jper...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Ryan J M sync@gmail.com wrote:
The waiting time is about 50s on my CentOS box now. yum remove
openssh* and yum install openssh* can't make it right. mv
~/.ssh{,.bak} not works either.
Here comes my tcpdump log, I am not an expert on SSH, Can anyone here
get me out of this?
Usually ssh slowness is attributed to DNS problems with reverse
lookups. You give ssh a host name to connect to, and it does a query
to find the ip, then a reverse to make sure that the ip is who it
claims to be. If there are no records, ssh will happily wait for the
query to time out before proceeding. This is usually where people
complain about slowness on home networks or in some hosted
environments that aren't set up 100% correctly. The proper fix is to
correct the DNS issue. Some folks simply hand jam an entry into
/etc/hosts, or dive into the sshd_config and disable the check. How
you resolve this is up to you.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS5U2 waiting too long when ssh login to other linux servers
Ryan J M wrote:
The waiting time is about 50s on my CentOS box now. yum remove
openssh* and yum install openssh* can't make it right. mv
~/.ssh{,.bak} not works either.
Here comes my tcpdump log, I am not an expert on SSH, Can anyone here
get me out of this?
The answering sshd will do a reverse DNS lookup on the connecting IP
address. That's about the right time to wait for timeouts from 2 DNS
servers if they don't respond.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS5U2 waiting too long when ssh login to other linux servers
I don´t know about use 2 dns, but one dns requistion has timeout to 5000ms.
Do you test this use the dig or nslookup.
[ren...@thedark ~]$ dig -x 127.0.0.1
; DiG 9.5.1-P2-RedHat-9.5.1-2.P2.fc10 -x 127.0.0.1
;; global options: printcmd
;; Query time: 14 msec
...
The dig showed the time of the query.
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2009/3/31 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com:
Ryan J M wrote:
The waiting time is about 50s on my CentOS box now. yum remove
openssh* and yum install openssh* can't make it right. mv
~/.ssh{,.bak} not works either.
Here comes my tcpdump log, I am not an expert on SSH, Can anyone here
get me out of this?
The answering sshd will do a reverse DNS lookup on the connecting IP
address. That's about the right time to wait for timeouts from 2 DNS
servers if they don't respond.
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Re: [CentOS] Installing Cent OS from a usb flash drive
At Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:50:06 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: I recently acquired a Fujitsu Lifebook 1610. Unfortunately, the machine was missing a lot of the stuff that would've come with it brand new, mainly the usb cdrom drive. Currently, I'm running Fedora on it, and I installed it using a usb flash drive with the help of a program called unetbootin(Probably not spelled right). to load the ISO onto the USB drive. I've successfully used the same program to load the Cent OS live cd onto a flash drive, and I've run it on the machine. Now, is there a way that I can install cent os onto the machine by way of the usb flash drive? I've tried the network install route, and didn't have any luck. I have installed Linux (assorted versions) on various Laptops/notbooks without CD-ROM drives. Since you now have some flavor of Linux already on the machine, you are already over major hurdle. Almost all modern (RedHat flavored anyway) include the PXEboot images and will install from CD ISOs parked on a local hard drive, you can do the following: 1) make sure you have a partitioned off space for the CD ISOs (CentOS 5 is 6 CDs at about 650mb each). This needs to be fs that is not part of the install (such as /home). Copy the CDs (Over the net, from USB sticks, whatever) to a directory there. 2) from the first CD copy the installer kernel and initrd from the PXEBOOT directory to /boot (on your Fedora system). Edit lilo.conf or grub.conf to include this kernel + initrd (look at the config file in the PXEBOOT directory for kernel params, etc. This will allow you to boot from your local HDD directly into the installer. Do whatever is needed to get this installed (eg re-run lilo -- grub just needs to the grub.conf file edited). Now you can reboot, select the installer's kernel/initrd from the bootloader menu and off you go. Oh don't forget the partition device name for the file system where the CD images are and remember to strip off the mount point --- if you put the CD images in /home/CentOS52 and /dev/hda5 is mounted as /home, your CDs are on /dev/hda5 in /CentOS52 -- you need to tell this to the installer when asked. The OTHER trick I've done: get a 3.5 IDE to 2.5 IDE disk adapter and put the laptop's disk into a desktop machine. I suppose there are now laptop to desktop SATA adapters available these days. That should also work, but I suspect there is the trickness to make sure the driver for the laptop's sata controller is also listed as a SCSI_ADAPTER in the modules.conf file and a proper initrd is built. I've not messed with SATA disks in my own systems. I have moved an installed system from from one SCSI controller (AHA-1542) to another (AHA-2940) -- the trick is having both SCSI controller drivers in the initrd and the initrd re-built *before* the disk transplant. I would suspect the same is true for SATA controllers. Thanks Jim ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software-- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows hel...@deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing Cent OS from a usb flash drive
Jimmy Bradley wrote: I recently acquired a Fujitsu Lifebook 1610. Unfortunately, the machine was missing a lot of the stuff that would've come with it brand new, mainly the usb cdrom drive. Currently, I'm running Fedora on it, and I installed it using a usb flash drive with the help of a program called unetbootin(Probably not spelled right). to load the ISO onto the USB drive. I've successfully used the same program to load the Cent OS live cd onto a flash drive, and I've run it on the machine. Now, is there a way that I can install cent os onto the machine by way of the usb flash drive? I've tried the network install route, and didn't have any luck. What was the problem with this? I would have thought the simplest solution would be to transfer the Centos netinstall ISO to your usb stick in the same way as your other transfers. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] need trouble ticket system
Since many tickets have complex interdependencies, do any tracking systems happen to integrate directly with FreeMind? On 3/30/09, Steve Lindemann st...@marmot.org wrote: Dhaval Thakar wrote: Hi, I need to implement trouble tracking system, we have 250 users in one premise 3 desktop support technicians. I need to implement trouble ticket system, where user will enter their application / other issues. Mail will be sent to technician available on duty. trouble ticket will be provided to user will be given close stat once resolved. Kindly suggest me one such application based on open source. While I'll admit it takes some tweaking for the purpose, I'm surprised no one has mentioned bugzilla. It's a little bit of work to setup as a helpdesk trouble ticket system, but it does work at the task reasonably well. When I put it up here there wasn't as much to choose from that provided the flexibility we needed then. The only real grief I've seen is the multiple checks required to fully close a ticket (bug) are a bit much for a typical helpdesk. They make perfect sense when dealing with software bugs... 8^) We've been looking at replacing it with something less complex but haven't found anything yet that makes it worth the trouble for us to change. Try several and find the one that works for you. -- Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\// against HTML/RTF email, http://www.marmot.org //\\ vCards M$ attachments +1.970.242.3331 x116 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] cross building rpms for 32bit OS
My test / development host runs CentOS-5.x x86_64. There I have successfully created an rpm for GiT-1.6.1-1 for x86_64. Now I would like to build the same rpm package for CentOS-5.x i386, but on the x86_64 machine. Is this even possible? If so, are there any resources that someone can refer me too that explains how? -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Qmail is fantastic, have sued for years, but for workgroup, calendaring feaures, Zimbra is the way. []s. On 3/17/2009 7:30 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: Am 17.03.2009 um 21:19 schrieb Per Qvindesland: No as I said it does not have all the synchronizing stuff but rock solid email server, sadly Zimbra in my humble opinion not really free, but of course there is http://www.opengroupware.org/ http://www.citadel.org/ http://www.open-xchange.com/EN/developer/index.html and http://kolab.org to mention a few all with their own pro's and con's All the free solutions depend on you spending an extra-ordinary amount of time configuring them. The amount of QA needed to pull something like Zimbra off is staggering (sometimes it's still not enough QA) My own mail is qmail-only - I gave-up trying to get all the calendaring-packages running long ago. But at work, we have Zimbra and is is really cool IMO. It has a slick web-interface, it sync's with Outlook, Mac - and then there is this great/horrible fat client called Zimbra Desktop... ;-) I have to admit, though, that the list-price for a small amount of mailboxes looks not so cheap (esp. if you want Zimbra Mobile). (How many mailboxes does the original author want to replace, actually?) But still, I'm kind of fascinated by it - mostly, because it's very openly developed and by browsing through their bugzilla and P4 repository-webinterface, you get a good idea of what current issues there are, what would get fixed by going to a newer version (and which new bugs to expect). I wish every vendor did that. We run it on CentOS, BTW (test/dev environment via Virtuozzo, production on physical hardware). Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] cross building rpms for 32bit OS
James B. Byrne wrote: My test / development host runs CentOS-5.x x86_64. There I have successfully created an rpm for GiT-1.6.1-1 for x86_64. Now I would like to build the same rpm package for CentOS-5.x i386, but on the x86_64 machine. Is this even possible? If so, are there any resources that someone can refer me too that explains how? Yes. In fact, I suspect the i386 rpm's for CentOS are built on x86_64 The easy way - rpmbuild --target=i386 foo.spec You will need all the 32-bit devel libraries. The proper way would be to install mock (the version in EPEL is best) and use that. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] cross building rpms for 32bit OS
On 03/31/09 09:44, James B. Byrne enlightened us: My test / development host runs CentOS-5.x x86_64. There I have successfully created an rpm for GiT-1.6.1-1 for x86_64. Now I would like to build the same rpm package for CentOS-5.x i386, but on the x86_64 machine. Is this even possible? If so, are there any resources that someone can refer me too that explains how? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects/Mock -- Matt Hyclak Systems and Operations Office of Information Technology Ohio University (740) 593-1222 pgpcX0SVokagx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] live audio feed via telephone link
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: It sounds like this location is just begging for wimax or some other suitable internet service. What kind of place can support a radio station but not an internet presence these days? the original poster indicated the FM station was on an American Indian reservation in a very remote canyon, and the ONLY phone lines available were 2 pairs of LONG haul copper POTS lines, one currently used by the stations telephone service, the other available for modem use. They are using a microwave link to get from the station to the hilltop transmitter, but that the nearest 'real' town with a telephone CO that would support any sort of real internet service is way too far away for FM reception, even with a directional yagi. The OP is in Saskatchewan, Canada. Hopefully, as a later poster suggested, the Canadian government has some $ available, to contribute for this project. I believe the distance is much too far for WiMax, even if it were line of sight, which is not the case here. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] live audio feed via telephone link
Lanny Marcus wrote: It sounds like this location is just begging for wimax or some other suitable internet service. What kind of place can support a radio station but not an internet presence these days? the original poster indicated the FM station was on an American Indian reservation in a very remote canyon, and the ONLY phone lines available were 2 pairs of LONG haul copper POTS lines, one currently used by the stations telephone service, the other available for modem use. They are using a microwave link to get from the station to the hilltop transmitter, but that the nearest 'real' town with a telephone CO that would support any sort of real internet service is way too far away for FM reception, even with a directional yagi. The OP is in Saskatchewan, Canada. Hopefully, as a later poster suggested, the Canadian government has some $ available, to contribute for this project. I believe the distance is much too far for WiMax, even if it were line of sight, which is not the case here. If the station generates any unique content that would still be interesting a day or two later (i.e. not just another DJ talking over the same music everyone else plays), perhaps they could package recorded shows as podcasts and ship them on CD/DVD/flash card to a location where they could be uploaded to a server. I almost never listen to radio or even real time streaming anymore because it is so much easier to fit podcasts into your schedule. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
this getting ready for centos 5.4 thread... i am not following it... yet... did we time warp and lose 5.3, being trashcanned and now waiting on 5.4? microsoft didnt buy out the centos faithful did they? ;- - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
RobertH wrote: this getting ready for centos 5.4 thread... i am not following it... yet... did we time warp and lose 5.3, being trashcanned and now waiting on 5.4? microsoft didnt buy out the centos faithful did they? ;- I'm tired of waiting for 5.4 and moved on to waiting for Centos 5.5 :-) -- tkb ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Alessandro Ren wrote: Qmail is fantastic, have sued for years, but for workgroup, calendaring feaures, Zimbra is the way. I have decided to give SME a go. It provides Qmail on Centos 4.7, with Centos 5.2 in beta. I chose SME because I also have to replace an NT server here as well, so it makes a good fit. I have a test system working and building the mailserver replacement system now. Then I will build the NT server replacement. []s. On 3/17/2009 7:30 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: Am 17.03.2009 um 21:19 schrieb Per Qvindesland: No as I said it does not have all the synchronizing stuff but rock solid email server, sadly Zimbra in my humble opinion not really free, but of course there is http://www.opengroupware.org/ http://www.citadel.org/ http://www.open-xchange.com/EN/developer/index.html and http://kolab.org to mention a few all with their own pro's and con's All the free solutions depend on you spending an extra-ordinary amount of time configuring them. The amount of QA needed to pull something like Zimbra off is staggering (sometimes it's still not enough QA) My own mail is qmail-only - I gave-up trying to get all the calendaring-packages running long ago. But at work, we have Zimbra and is is really cool IMO. It has a slick web-interface, it sync's with Outlook, Mac - and then there is this great/horrible fat client called Zimbra Desktop... ;-) I have to admit, though, that the list-price for a small amount of mailboxes looks not so cheap (esp. if you want Zimbra Mobile). (How many mailboxes does the original author want to replace, actually?) But still, I'm kind of fascinated by it - mostly, because it's very openly developed and by browsing through their bugzilla and P4 repository-webinterface, you get a good idea of what current issues there are, what would get fixed by going to a newer version (and which new bugs to expect). I wish every vendor did that. We run it on CentOS, BTW (test/dev environment via Virtuozzo, production on physical hardware). Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
How to stop recieving mail from CentOS forum ? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: Alessandro Ren wrote: Qmail is fantastic, have sued for years, but for workgroup, calendaring feaures, Zimbra is the way. I have decided to give SME a go. It provides Qmail on Centos 4.7, with Centos 5.2 in beta. I chose SME because I also have to replace an NT server here as well, so it makes a good fit. I have a test system working and building the mailserver replacement system now. Then I will build the NT server replacement. []s. On 3/17/2009 7:30 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: Am 17.03.2009 um 21:19 schrieb Per Qvindesland: No as I said it does not have all the synchronizing stuff but rock solid email server, sadly Zimbra in my humble opinion not really free, but of course there is http://www.opengroupware.org/ http://www.citadel.org/ http://www.open-xchange.com/EN/developer/index.html and http://kolab.org to mention a few all with their own pro's and con's All the free solutions depend on you spending an extra-ordinary amount of time configuring them. The amount of QA needed to pull something like Zimbra off is staggering (sometimes it's still not enough QA) My own mail is qmail-only - I gave-up trying to get all the calendaring-packages running long ago. But at work, we have Zimbra and is is really cool IMO. It has a slick web-interface, it sync's with Outlook, Mac - and then there is this great/horrible fat client called Zimbra Desktop... ;-) I have to admit, though, that the list-price for a small amount of mailboxes looks not so cheap (esp. if you want Zimbra Mobile). (How many mailboxes does the original author want to replace, actually?) But still, I'm kind of fascinated by it - mostly, because it's very openly developed and by browsing through their bugzilla and P4 repository-webinterface, you get a good idea of what current issues there are, what would get fixed by going to a newer version (and which new bugs to expect). I wish every vendor did that. We run it on CentOS, BTW (test/dev environment via Virtuozzo, production on physical hardware). Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Qmail is fantastic, have sued for years, but for workgroup, calendaring feaures, Zimbra is the way. I have decided to give SME a go. It provides Qmail on Centos 4.7, with Centos 5.2 in beta. I chose SME because I also have to replace an NT server here as well, so it makes a good fit. I have a test system working and building the mailserver replacement system now. Then I will build the NT server replacement. Depending on the number of users, a single machine might easily serve both roles (and your internet gateway/firewall too, if you need one). -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Samba and iptables - woes
Tom wrote: What is the subnet mask of the outside interface? 255.255.255.0 or /24 What is the subnet mask of the inside interface? 255.255.255 or /24 I'm not real good with iptables but you might need to check your source address. Ex. 192.168.230.100/24. /24 is a full class C. tried changing it to 192.168.230.0/24 as suggested by another, no difference still does not work; as I suspected the last octet can be any value it is effectively masked by the /24. -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Rob Kampen Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:19 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] Samba and iptables - woes Hi folk, I am trying to get iptables working on a samba server but find it is blocking something that prevents the windoze clients from being able to access the share. here are the bits from iptables: # nmb provided netbios-ns -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT # nmb provided netbios-dgm -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT # Samba -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 135 --state NEW -j ACCEPT # smb provided netbios-ssn -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 139 --state NEW -j ACCEPT # smb provided microsoft-ds -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 445 --state NEW -j ACCEPT so as far as I can tell this should provide access to the required services. BTW the server has two NICs; 100Mb is eth0 at 192.168.230.230 and connects to the router with internet/NAT firewall; 1Gb is eth1 at 192.168.230.232 and this connects to a G ethernet switch that has the windoze clients. The smb.conf is as follows: [global] workgroup = NDG netbios name = SAMBA netbios aliases = Samba server string = Samba Server Version %v interfaces = lo, eth1, 192.168.230.232 bind interfaces only = Yes security = DOMAIN obey pam restrictions = Yes passdb backend = tdbsam pam password change = Yes log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log max log size = 50 load printers = No add user script = /usr/sbin/useradd %u -n -g users delete user script = /usr/sbin/userdel %u add group script = /usr/sbin/groupadd %g delete group script = /usr/sbin/groupdel %g delete user from group script = /usr/sbin/userdel %u %g add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -n -c Workstation (%u) -M -d /nohome -s /bin/false %u logon path = domain logons = Yes os level = 32 preferred master = Yes domain master = Yes dns proxy = No wins support = Yes ldap ssl = no create mask = 0664 directory mask = 0775 hosts allow = 127., 192.168.230., 192.168.231. case sensitive = Yes browseable = No available = No wide links = No dont descend = / [homes] comment = Home Directories valid users = %S read only = No browseable = Yes available = Yes [NDG] comment = NDG files path = /NDG write list = @NDGstaff, @birdseye read only = No browseable = Yes available = Yes I found that making the rule for port 139 ignore the eth port (i.e. remove the -i eth1) allowed things to work better, but do not want this to be the case as I do not want the eth0 interface to be used for this traffic. looking at netstat -l -n shows only lo and eth1 listening on port 139, so how is this failing to work?? Any ideas? Thanks Rob No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 03/30/09 17:56:00 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos begin:vcard fn:Rob Kampen n:Kampen;Rob email;internet:r...@kampensonline.net tel;cell:407-341-3815 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] cross building rpms for 32bit OS
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009, James B. Byrne wrote: My test / development host runs CentOS-5.x x86_64. There I have successfully created an rpm for GiT-1.6.1-1 for x86_64. Now I would like to build the same rpm package for CentOS-5.x i386, but on the x86_64 machine. Is this even possible? If so, are there any resources that someone can refer me too that explains how? We do this sort of thing using the free VMware server with VMs for the appropriate 32-bit Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, etc. VMs are particularly useful in development as it is very easy to take a snapshot, experiment, and revert back to the snapshot if things go Horribly Wrong(tm). Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 I have no reason to suppose that he, who would take away my Liberty, would not when he had me in his Power, take away everything else. John Locke ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Les Mikesell wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Qmail is fantastic, have sued for years, but for workgroup, calendaring feaures, Zimbra is the way. I have decided to give SME a go. It provides Qmail on Centos 4.7, with Centos 5.2 in beta. I chose SME because I also have to replace an NT server here as well, so it makes a good fit. I have a test system working and building the mailserver replacement system now. Then I will build the NT server replacement. Depending on the number of users, a single machine might easily serve both roles (and your internet gateway/firewall too, if you need one). Not many users, but there are security/privacy issues for the separation. Also I would NEVER consider running SMB services on a gateway/firewall and I need IPv6 support anyway on the gateway/firewall. So far I have used Astaro with roll-your-own (Astaro predates the IPv6 /48 allocation), and I am getting a 'nice' box from a vendor I work with... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Care India wrote: How to stop recieving mail from CentOS forum ? If you mean this mailing list: By unsubscribing. Ralph pgpjDzeI4NQ2a.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Qmail is fantastic, have sued for years, but for workgroup, calendaring feaures, Zimbra is the way. I have decided to give SME a go. It provides Qmail on Centos 4.7, with Centos 5.2 in beta. I chose SME because I also have to replace an NT server here as well, so it makes a good fit. I have a test system working and building the mailserver replacement system now. Then I will build the NT server replacement. Depending on the number of users, a single machine might easily serve both roles (and your internet gateway/firewall too, if you need one). Not many users, but there are security/privacy issues for the separation. Also I would NEVER consider running SMB services on a gateway/firewall and I need IPv6 support anyway on the gateway/firewall. So far I have used Astaro with roll-your-own (Astaro predates the IPv6 /48 allocation), and I am getting a 'nice' box from a vendor I work with... Agreed that separation is theoretically safer, but the scripted configuration on SME takes care of most of the things you would be likely to forget if you did it by hand (setting up iptables firewalling, hosts.allow, binding services only to the appropriate interface, adding ip range restrictions within the app configs, etc.). The down side of two machines is that stock SME doesn't use LDAP network authentication and it does some handy tricks with groups that span both email and file permission/sharing concepts. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
waiting for 5.5, that is funny... :-) heheh, no, really, what happened to 5.3? -rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
on 3-31-2009 8:34 AM Toby Bluhm spake the following: RobertH wrote: this getting ready for centos 5.4 thread... i am not following it... yet... did we time warp and lose 5.3, being trashcanned and now waiting on 5.4? microsoft didnt buy out the centos faithful did they? ;- I'm tired of waiting for 5.4 and moved on to waiting for Centos 5.5 :-) Is it time for CentOS 6 yet? ;-P Ducking now This was a joke for those who don't speak smiley!!! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Samba and iptables - woes
The poster suggesting a lopsided interfaces is correct. Look at incoming vs outgoing packets via ifconfig -a. Use /sbin/ip to fix it. Since the subnet is the same, u need a /sbin/ip rule. On 3/31/09, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote: Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 00:19 -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: Hi folk, I am trying to get iptables working on a samba server but find it is blocking something that prevents the windoze clients from being able to access the share. here are the bits from iptables: # nmb provided netbios-ns -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT # nmb provided netbios-dgm -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT # Samba -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 135 --state NEW -j ACCEPT # smb provided netbios-ssn -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 139 --state NEW -j ACCEPT # smb provided microsoft-ds -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 445 --state NEW -j ACCEPT so as far as I can tell this should provide access to the required services. BTW the server has two NICs; 100Mb is eth0 at 192.168.230.230 and connects to the router with internet/NAT firewall; 1Gb is eth1 at 192.168.230.232 and this connects to a G ethernet switch that has the windoze clients. The smb.conf is as follows: [global] workgroup = NDG netbios name = SAMBA netbios aliases = Samba server string = Samba Server Version %v interfaces = lo, eth1, 192.168.230.232 bind interfaces only = Yes security = DOMAIN obey pam restrictions = Yes passdb backend = tdbsam pam password change = Yes log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log max log size = 50 load printers = No add user script = /usr/sbin/useradd %u -n -g users delete user script = /usr/sbin/userdel %u add group script = /usr/sbin/groupadd %g delete group script = /usr/sbin/groupdel %g delete user from group script = /usr/sbin/userdel %u %g add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -n -c Workstation (%u) -M -d /nohome -s /bin/false %u logon path = domain logons = Yes os level = 32 preferred master = Yes domain master = Yes dns proxy = No wins support = Yes ldap ssl = no create mask = 0664 directory mask = 0775 hosts allow = 127., 192.168.230., 192.168.231. case sensitive = Yes browseable = No available = No wide links = No dont descend = / [homes] comment = Home Directories valid users = %S read only = No browseable = Yes available = Yes [NDG] comment = NDG files path = /NDG write list = @NDGstaff, @birdseye read only = No browseable = Yes available = Yes I found that making the rule for port 139 ignore the eth port (i.e. remove the -i eth1) allowed things to work better, but do not want this to be the case as I do not want the eth0 interface to be used for this traffic. looking at netstat -l -n shows only lo and eth1 listening on port 139, so how is this failing to work?? Any ideas? Thanks I don't believe that you want to use comma separators in things like 'bind interfaces' or 'interfaces' - it doesn't seem that samba is consistent here. removed I have never used two separate hardware network interfaces on the same subnet and suspect that it may actually be trying to communicate back from the wrong one which is confusing things. Also, it doesn't make sense to list both eth1 and the actual ip address in bind interfaces but I would tend to doubt that would be a problem. Try taking eth0 down (as root - ifdown eth0) and see if that fixes the problem. tried this and things appear to work okay, so I guess I need to split my subnet into two.. Some further thinking required here. I have an almost identical set up in my home and actually tried all this there first, as I do not want my business impacted. So it appears to work fine at home but not at the office, some more testing required. I have only two windoze machines at home and neither access the server, so I'll have to contrive a setup that tries this out properly. Will keep you posted. Also, I'm not sure why some of the firewall rules include --state NEW and some of the don't - that doesn't fully make sense to me. state NEW is irrelevant for udp as it is a single direction with no handshaking such as tcp has - i.e. connectionless? Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] live audio feed via telephone link
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:28:30 -0500 Lanny Marcus wrote: The OP is in Saskatchewan, Canada. Hopefully, as a later poster suggested, the Canadian government has some $ available, to contribute for this project. I believe the distance is much too far for WiMax, even if it were line of sight, which is not the case here. I suspect that INAC may be approached regarding this once the project has been figured out and costed. However, Not my department. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14
Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-annou...@centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-requ...@centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-ow...@centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest... Today's Topics: 1. CESA-2009:0398-01: Critical CentOS 2 i386 seamonkey security update (John Newbigin) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:53:22 +1100 From: John Newbigin jnewbi...@ict.swin.edu.au Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0398-01: Critical CentOS 2 i386 seamonkey security update To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 49d14d62.7090...@ict.swin.edu.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed The following errata for CentOS-2 have been built and uploaded to the centos mirror: RHSA-2009:0398-01 Critical: seamonkey security update Files available: seamonkey-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-chat-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-devel-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-dom-inspector-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-js-debugger-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-mail-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-nspr-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-nspr-devel-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-nss-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm seamonkey-nss-devel-1.0.9-0.32.el2.c2.1.i386.rpm More details are available from the RedHat web site at https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh21as-errata.html The easy way to make sure you are up to date with all the latest patches is to run: # yum update -- John Newbigin ITS Senior Analyst / Programmer Faculty of Information and Communication Technologies Swinburne University of Technology Melbourne, Australia http://www.ict.swin.edu.au/staff/jnewbigin -- ___ CentOS-announce mailing list centos-annou...@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 49, Issue 14 *** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Another rpm question re %make
On Tue, March 31, 2009 12:57, James B. Byrne wrote: For the moment however, I am working on a straight x86_64 build of ruby-1.9.1-1 and I am running into this error: I spoke too soon. I must have a system configuration problem because when I returned to git and tried the easy cross build: $ rpmbuild --target=i386 git.spec I got a very similar error: Building target platforms: i386 Building for target i386 sh: line 0: fg: no job control So, what am I supposed to do with respect to fg and job control? -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Samba and iptables - woes
on 3-30-2009 9:19 PM Rob Kampen spake the following: Hi folk, I am trying to get iptables working on a samba server but find it is blocking something that prevents the windoze clients from being able to access the share. here are the bits from iptables: # nmb provided netbios-ns -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT # nmb provided netbios-dgm -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp -m udp -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT # Samba -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 135 --state NEW -j ACCEPT # smb provided netbios-ssn -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 139 --state NEW -j ACCEPT # smb provided microsoft-ds -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp -m state -s 192.168.230.100/24 -i eth1 --dport 445 --state NEW -j ACCEPT so as far as I can tell this should provide access to the required services. BTW the server has two NICs; 100Mb is eth0 at 192.168.230.230 and connects to the router with internet/NAT firewall; 1Gb is eth1 at 192.168.230.232 and this connects to a G ethernet switch that has the windoze clients. The smb.conf is as follows: [global] workgroup = NDG netbios name = SAMBA netbios aliases = Samba server string = Samba Server Version %v interfaces = lo, eth1, 192.168.230.232 bind interfaces only = Yes security = DOMAIN obey pam restrictions = Yes passdb backend = tdbsam pam password change = Yes log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log max log size = 50 load printers = No add user script = /usr/sbin/useradd %u -n -g users delete user script = /usr/sbin/userdel %u add group script = /usr/sbin/groupadd %g delete group script = /usr/sbin/groupdel %g delete user from group script = /usr/sbin/userdel %u %g add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -n -c Workstation (%u) -M -d /nohome -s /bin/false %u logon path = domain logons = Yes os level = 32 preferred master = Yes domain master = Yes dns proxy = No wins support = Yes ldap ssl = no create mask = 0664 directory mask = 0775 hosts allow = 127., 192.168.230., 192.168.231. case sensitive = Yes browseable = No available = No wide links = No dont descend = / [homes] comment = Home Directories valid users = %S read only = No browseable = Yes available = Yes [NDG] comment = NDG files path = /NDG write list = @NDGstaff, @birdseye read only = No browseable = Yes available = Yes I found that making the rule for port 139 ignore the eth port (i.e. remove the -i eth1) allowed things to work better, but do not want this to be the case as I do not want the eth0 interface to be used for this traffic. looking at netstat -l -n shows only lo and eth1 listening on port 139, so how is this failing to work?? Any ideas? Thanks Rob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos What are you attempting to achieve? Having both nics on the same subnet doesn't make a lot of sense to me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
If you read any of the previous 90 messages, you'd know that they are talking about ways to plan for the *future* release of 5.4 and is asking how the community can help to try to prevent the delays that have happened with 5.3. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:18 AM, RobertH robe...@abbacomm.net wrote: this getting ready for centos 5.4 thread... i am not following it... yet... did we time warp and lose 5.3, being trashcanned and now waiting on 5.4? microsoft didnt buy out the centos faithful did they? ;- - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On one mirror that I tried, at least. So, is it live yet? :-) -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote: On one mirror that I tried, at least. So, is it live yet? :-) Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go. BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type yum upgrade? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that? *** Gilbert Sebenste (My opinions only!) ** *** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
Jimmy Bradley wrote: This is just my 2 cents worth. The reason I run Cent OS is because it just seems to be rock solid stable. That's something I haven't seen in any of the other distros, or MS Windows. My computers are my lifeline to my jobs. I get my assignments by way of my computer, and I report my completed assignments on my computer. It's bad enough to have to deal with hardware failures from time to time, so the last thing I want to deal with on top of that is a finicky OS or software. I run Cent OS on both of my laptops, and all three of my desktops, and I can power any one of those machines up, and so far Cent OS has never failed me. Cent OS just works. That's what matters to me. Just my 2 cents That's very much the mindset of many CentOS users. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On 31-Mar-09, at 10:44 AM, Gilbert Sebenste wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote: On one mirror that I tried, at least. So, is it live yet? :-) Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go. BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type yum upgrade? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that? For 5.x to 5.3, you must: # yum update glibc # yum update You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe). d ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
thus Gilbert Sebenste spake: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote: On one mirror that I tried, at least. So, is it live yet? :-) Yap. I'm seeding ISO images for four hours already. My machine at home (this one) is 5.3 already (clean install from DVD): [t...@dragon ~]$ uname -a Linux $FWDN 2.6.18-128.el5xen #1 SMP Wed Jan 21 11:12:42 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ;) Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go. BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type yum upgrade? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] [Fwd: Re: Another rpm question re %make]
On Tue, March 31, 2009 13:03, James B. Byrne wrote: Found it. No etc/at.allow and no etc/at.deny means only root can submit jobs. Well, that was not it. I still get the same errors after adding my user id to /etc/at.allow. I tested whether job control was enabled by moving top into the background using ctrl-z and fg to return and that worked. Any suggestions as to what I am missing? I sure this problem is only ignorance on my part. -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
on 3-31-2009 10:41 AM Florin Andrei spake the following: On one mirror that I tried, at least. So, is it live yet? :-) The announcement will tell you if it is live. Prior updates seem to have been done like this; Packages and ISO's are synced to mirrors. Maybe packages first, then ISO's. When a sufficient set of mirrors are synced (a large percentage), the yum metadata is synced. I think there are methods in place to check if a mirror is fully up. When this is done, then the release announcement is done. The mirror servers do their thing and assign fully updated mirrors out to the public. That way the faster mirrors aren't overwhelmed with downloads as the slower mirrors are still catching up, and systems don't try to yum update on an incomplete mirror and break. Do everyone a favor and wait another day or so. If you saw ISO's they may not be complete yet, and you will add bandwidth load for nothing. When you see a release announcement, then all bets are off, and everyone will be pounding the mirrors anyway. Happy CentOS'ing! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Les Mikesell wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Qmail is fantastic, have sued for years, but for workgroup, calendaring feaures, Zimbra is the way. I have decided to give SME a go. It provides Qmail on Centos 4.7, with Centos 5.2 in beta. I chose SME because I also have to replace an NT server here as well, so it makes a good fit. I have a test system working and building the mailserver replacement system now. Then I will build the NT server replacement. Depending on the number of users, a single machine might easily serve both roles (and your internet gateway/firewall too, if you need one). Not many users, but there are security/privacy issues for the separation. Also I would NEVER consider running SMB services on a gateway/firewall and I need IPv6 support anyway on the gateway/firewall. So far I have used Astaro with roll-your-own (Astaro predates the IPv6 /48 allocation), and I am getting a 'nice' box from a vendor I work with... Agreed that separation is theoretically safer, but the scripted configuration on SME takes care of most of the things you would be likely to forget if you did it by hand (setting up iptables firewalling, hosts.allow, binding services only to the appropriate interface, adding ip range restrictions within the app configs, etc.). My concern is not 'out of the box', and even there I have problems with their 1st update procedure. I have problems with the time lag between security bugs and updates applied. Gateway/firewalls have to be very conservative on services offered. There are ways to virtualize this, but SME has not done that. The down side of two machines is that stock SME doesn't use LDAP network authentication and it does some handy tricks with groups that span both email and file permission/sharing concepts. In my case, all the more reason to separate them, as many of the people with emails, even in my domain do not get shares access. They are my remote family members. And most emailing is done via Thunderbird. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
Brian Mathis wrote: Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 If you read any of the previous 90 messages, you'd know that they are talking about ways to plan for the *future* release of 5.4 and is asking how the community can help to try to prevent the delays that have happened with 5.3. brian. hm, i see. read a few. wasnt able to discern in a few. having been on the list like forever, i know better than to whine for an update so i have just been patiently waiting knowing it would be ready when it is ready. bottom line is i dont want to read 90 messages to figure it out, especially when AFAIK centos 5.3 wasnt even released yet... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
At Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:44:00 -0500 (CDT) CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote: On one mirror that I tried, at least. So, is it live yet? :-) Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go. BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type yum upgrade? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that? You don't need to change anything. 'yum update' will update things, within a given major release (eg 4.x or 5.x). It will happen automagically. Going from 4.x to 5.x requires using the installer (eg the ISOs and a reboot with the installer CD/DVD). I don't know if it is possible (or advisable) to do a major release update with yum. *** Gilbert Sebenste (My opinions only!) ** *** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software-- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows hel...@deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
For 5.x to 5.3, you must: # yum update glibc # yum update You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe). d if this is so, is there a link to this on upstream website that someone already has booked? please share - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
RobertH wrote: For 5.x to 5.3, you must: # yum update glibc # yum update You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe). if this is so, is there a link to this on upstream website that someone already has booked? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=5.3+%22yum+update+glibc+%22+site%3Aredhat.com -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On 31-Mar-09, at 11:46 AM, RobertH wrote: For 5.x to 5.3, you must: # yum update glibc # yum update You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe). d if this is so, is there a link to this on upstream website that someone already has booked? please share - rh I found out about that on this list, and it has surfaced on other mail lists I am on where the products are centos based. I don't have the exact link. d ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On 31-Mar-09, at 12:15 PM, dnk wrote: On 31-Mar-09, at 11:46 AM, RobertH wrote: For 5.x to 5.3, you must: # yum update glibc # yum update You need to update glibc first (upstream bug I believe). d if this is so, is there a link to this on upstream website that someone already has booked? please share - rh I found out about that on this list, and it has surfaced on other mail lists I am on where the products are centos based. I don't have the exact link. d From one of the other lists I am on: indeed, that is the number 1 item from the release notes. 4. Known Issues When updating from 5.2 to 5.3 you can run into a problem with rpm: rpmdb: unable to lock mutex: Invalid argument. To avoid this please update glibc before updating the rest of the installation: yum update glibc yum update and for kick-starters (new installs) There is a major anaconda issue when using kickstart. With 5.3 you cannot set the time zone in the kickstart file. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481617 for the bug report. There is a workaround at http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-15687 d ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] installing centos from usb
Jerry, To use kickstart off usb, we just use linux ks=hd:sde1:/ourkickstart.cfg (Of course, the e will change depending on your drives, on our 10-drive systems it is linux ks=hd:sdk1:/ourkickstart.cfg) And it works great. We have NOT yet had any success with putting the CD#1 ISO or the DVD on USB, but we would love to do so, so if anybody knows how, it would be great to see it here. Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Geis Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:19 AM To: CentOS ML Subject: [CentOS] installing centos from usb Are there instructions on how to take the actual ISO install image (not a live image), put that iso file on a USB thumbdrive and install from that instead of DVD? I would be interested in putting a kickstart file on the USB also. so just plug in a USB and everything installs just the way I want/need. Thanks, Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Web based project management recomendations
I was wondering if anyone can recommend an advanced to enterprise class project management package (web based) that runs with a pretty vanilla centos install. I would prefer to stick within the realm of php/mysql (as I am not too familiar with the java servers), but would venture there if the reasons were there to do so. The approach is not software dev management, but rather just project (of any kind) management. Thanks in advance. d ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Web based project management recomendations
- dnk d.k.emailli...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone can recommend an advanced to enterprise class project management package (web based) that runs with a pretty vanilla centos install. I would prefer to stick within the realm of php/mysql (as I am not too familiar with the java servers), but would venture there if the reasons were there to do so. The approach is not software dev management, but rather just project (of any kind) management. Thanks in advance. d dotProject has been good in the past but haven't used it in awhile... YMMV Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Another rpm question re %make
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.57843: line 58: fg: no job control error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.57843 (%build) I've seen this error most often when using rpm specs built for a different system (e.g., Mandriva or Suse). It's often caused by a missing macro definition in the specfile. Can you post the specfile? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Also I would NEVER consider running SMB services on a gateway/firewall and I need IPv6 support anyway on the gateway/firewall. So far I have used Astaro with roll-your-own (Astaro predates the IPv6 /48 allocation), and I am getting a 'nice' box from a vendor I work with... Agreed that separation is theoretically safer, but the scripted configuration on SME takes care of most of the things you would be likely to forget if you did it by hand (setting up iptables firewalling, hosts.allow, binding services only to the appropriate interface, adding ip range restrictions within the app configs, etc.). My concern is not 'out of the box', and even there I have problems with their 1st update procedure. I have problems with the time lag between security bugs and updates applied. Nearly all config changes on SME are done though it's web interface and all of the appropriate iptables/hosts.allow/apps configs are re-written as needed each time by the underlying scripts. The updates for the applications themselves should track Centos very closely since much of it is unchanged (except the mail system). You can just log in as root and do a 'yum update' if you have any trouble with the admin page hiding that from you. You just have to run a couple of commands that it will suggest afterwards. Gateway/firewalls have to be very conservative on services offered. There are ways to virtualize this, but SME has not done that. The down side of two machines is that stock SME doesn't use LDAP network authentication and it does some handy tricks with groups that span both email and file permission/sharing concepts. In my case, all the more reason to separate them, as many of the people with emails, even in my domain do not get shares access. They are my remote family members. Having many different groups with different settings isn't a problem. You don't have to give shares to any particular group. But it saves time to be able to add members to a group and end up with both a mail alias that includes them and a group that can be given access to a file share or ftp location. And most emailing is done via Thunderbird. That's not particularly relevant - if you access from more than one location you might want to set up imaps access so all the messages are stored on the server and available through the hoard web interface if you aren't at you usual client(s). -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
Florin Andrei wrote: Jimmy Bradley wrote: This is just my 2 cents worth. The reason I run Cent OS is because it just seems to be rock solid stable. That's something I haven't seen in any of the other distros, or MS Windows. My computers are my lifeline to my jobs. I get my assignments by way of my computer, and I report my completed assignments on my computer. It's bad enough to have to deal with hardware failures from time to time, so the last thing I want to deal with on top of that is a finicky OS or software. I run Cent OS on both of my laptops, and all three of my desktops, and I can power any one of those machines up, and so far Cent OS has never failed me. Cent OS just works. That's what matters to me. Just my 2 cents That's very much the mindset of many CentOS users. Yes, there are not too many surprises with CentOS. However, debian has also had a very good reputation for stability - and Ubuntu builds on that while also providing timely releases. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: Another rpm question re %make]
On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:55 PM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: On Tue, March 31, 2009 13:03, James B. Byrne wrote: Found it. No etc/at.allow and no etc/at.deny means only root can submit jobs. Well, that was not it. I still get the same errors after adding my user id to /etc/at.allow. I tested whether job control was enabled by moving top into the background using ctrl-z and fg to return and that worked. Any suggestions as to what I am missing? I sure this problem is only ignorance on my part. Try installing ksh and see if that helps. Also issuing --target= isn't enough for most builds, you also need your external build environment to report i386 or some part of the build process might start pulling in x86_64 libraries. To do that you can try issuing an 'arch i386 rpmbuild -ba -- target=i386 your spec file' the 'arch i386' sets up the environment to report the machine is i386. That doesn't work everywhere, that is why mock or Xen or VMware with a full i386 environment is the recommended approach. Personnally I like Xen as it comes with the OS and using virt-install getting another CentOS PV guest os is relatively quick. Others prefer mock still others VMware. Only mock and Xen can do it in a text-only setup. -Ross ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: Another rpm question re %make]
Ross Walker wrote: To do that you can try issuing an 'arch i386 rpmbuild -ba -- target=i386 your spec file' the 'arch i386' sets up the environment to report the machine is i386. That doesn't work everywhere, that is why mock or Xen or VMware with a full i386 environment is the recommended approach. Personnally I like Xen as it comes with the OS and using virt-install getting another CentOS PV guest os is relatively quick. Others prefer mock still others VMware. Only mock and Xen can do it in a text-only setup. VMware server needs the X libs installed, but doesn't need X to be running on the host itself. You can connect VMware console from some other machine if you need access to the virtual guest's console. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Authconfig
Anyone used authconfig to join a CentOS box to an AD Domain? I can't for the life of me get this command to even execute without error? Looking at the tui which I can make work, I am trying to glean possible settings from it but have no luck. Although krb5 auth is disabled and winbind is enabled, there is kerb conf that must be setup etc... Looking at /etc/sysconfig/authconfig from a temporary box built with a gui and joined successfully, I also can't make the cli equivalent work? I can't find a single piece of info via Google either. Any pointers would be helpful! jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] live audio feed via telephone link
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:28:30 -0500 Lanny Marcus wrote: The OP is in Saskatchewan, Canada. Hopefully, as a later poster suggested, the Canadian government has some $ available, to contribute for this project. I believe the distance is much too far for WiMax, even if it were line of sight, which is not the case here. I suspect that INAC may be approached regarding this once the project has been figured out and costed. However, Not my department. However, a very interesting idea! Maybe they can provide funding for the project, or a part of the funding.:-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:44:00 -0500 (CDT) CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote: On one mirror that I tried, at least. So, is it live yet? :-) Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're good to go. BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just type yum upgrade? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active for that? You don't need to change anything. 'yum update' will update things, within a given major release (eg 4.x or 5.x). It will happen automagically. Going from 4.x to 5.x requires using the installer (eg the ISOs and a reboot with the installer CD/DVD). I don't know if it is possible (or advisable) to do a major release update with yum. Maybe possible, but usually/always strongly discouraged, by upstream and the CentOS team, to upgrade from one major release to another. Best to BACKUP and install fresh. The caution about first updating glibc (?) is important. I recall from the update to 5.2, there is a difference, between yum upgrade and yum update. I believe yum upgrade is a better way to go from 5.2 to 5.3.*BACKUP*, read the Release Notes and then you are ready to roll. Probably the standard CentOS Repos that you have from the original install will do it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NTP error message on /var/log/messages
Mar 15 14:28:15 SER1 ntpd[25037]: sendto(172.29.21.16): Invalid argument Mar 15 14:45:22 SER1 ntpd[25037]: sendto(172.29.21.16): Invalid argument Mar 15 15:02:29 SER1 ntpd[25037]: sendto(172.29.21.16): Invalid argument i remember (or think so) i had this some time ago on one of my machines. it turned out that 2 ntpd were running. if so, kill the bad one. best regards, markus ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Les Mikesell wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Also I would NEVER consider running SMB services on a gateway/firewall and I need IPv6 support anyway on the gateway/firewall. So far I have used Astaro with roll-your-own (Astaro predates the IPv6 /48 allocation), and I am getting a 'nice' box from a vendor I work with... Agreed that separation is theoretically safer, but the scripted configuration on SME takes care of most of the things you would be likely to forget if you did it by hand (setting up iptables firewalling, hosts.allow, binding services only to the appropriate interface, adding ip range restrictions within the app configs, etc.). My concern is not 'out of the box', and even there I have problems with their 1st update procedure. I have problems with the time lag between security bugs and updates applied. Nearly all config changes on SME are done though it's web interface and all of the appropriate iptables/hosts.allow/apps configs are re-written as needed each time by the underlying scripts. The updates for the applications themselves should track Centos very closely since much of it is unchanged (except the mail system). You can just log in as root and do a 'yum update' if you have any trouble with the admin page hiding that from you. You just have to run a couple of commands that it will suggest afterwards. Les, security IS my business. Now I work mostly on secure protocols, having co-chaired the IPsec work in the IETF, contributed to 802.11i, invented HIP, was the designer of the Federal PKI's Bridge CA, and a number of other activities. But I work with my company's (ICSAlabs) certification program, and the Firewall program is one of the major ones. I have seen attacks and mitigations that often never make it out to the public, or make it out after we have worked with the vendors for weeks to get patches before the S* hits the fans. I am particularly paranoid about what may be exposed on a gateway/firewall while waiting for that all so important patch. I don't like SME's laid back attitude to getting a 1st install patched, for example. One 1st install, all services on the server MUST be blocked until current updates are installed and configured, and only then opened. So, no, your explaination does not make me feel more comfortable. But then as indicated, I am a hard one to make comfortable Gateway/firewalls have to be very conservative on services offered. There are ways to virtualize this, but SME has not done that. The down side of two machines is that stock SME doesn't use LDAP network authentication and it does some handy tricks with groups that span both email and file permission/sharing concepts. In my case, all the more reason to separate them, as many of the people with emails, even in my domain do not get shares access. They are my remote family members. Having many different groups with different settings isn't a problem. You don't have to give shares to any particular group. But it saves time to be able to add members to a group and end up with both a mail alias that includes them and a group that can be given access to a file share or ftp location. There is going to be further migration of both services. I felt, after being locked for years to some platforms, that more was better until things settled down here. I want to be able to experiment with the server functions before I commit to shutting down the NT server, and I don't want to disrupt mail that I know I can get going quickly. And most emailing is done via Thunderbird. That's not particularly relevant - if you access from more than one location you might want to set up imaps access so all the messages are stored on the server and available through the hoard web interface if you aren't at you usual client(s). I was at the IETF when IMAP was brought out of CMU and standardized, I know the beast all too well. I still use POP. A few users (like son #2) use the web interface. Most have one computer, either in the house or in their house for mail. POP works just fine. Plus once they POP their mail, it is no longer my problem! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Lanny Marcus wrote: You don't need to change anything. 'yum update' will update things, within a given major release (eg 4.x or 5.x). It will happen automagically. Going from 4.x to 5.x requires using the installer (eg the ISOs and a reboot with the installer CD/DVD). I don't know if it is possible (or advisable) to do a major release update with yum. Maybe possible, but usually/always strongly discouraged, by upstream and the CentOS team, to upgrade from one major release to another. Best to BACKUP and install fresh. I agree. I was with Redhat starting with 6, and left after Fedora 9 got too restrictive with things. I have done upgrades, and it wasn't pretty, between major releases. Going from CentOS 5.2 to 5.3 is most worthy of doing a backup, no matter what. The caution about first updating glibc (?) is important. I recall from the update to 5.2, there is a difference, between yum upgrade and yum update. I believe yum upgrade is a better way to go from 5.2 to 5.3.*BACKUP*, read the Release Notes and then you are ready to roll. Probably the standard CentOS Repos that you have from the original install will do it. OK, sounds good. Thanks, everyone! *** Gilbert Sebenste (My opinions only!) ** ***___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors
On Mar 31, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Gilbert Sebenste seben...@weather.admin.niu.edu wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Lanny Marcus wrote: You don't need to change anything. 'yum update' will update things, within a given major release (eg 4.x or 5.x). It will happen automagically. Going from 4.x to 5.x requires using the installer (eg the ISOs and a reboot with the installer CD/DVD). I don't know if it is possible (or advisable) to do a major release update with yum. Maybe possible, but usually/always strongly discouraged, by upstream and the CentOS team, to upgrade from one major release to another. Best to BACKUP and install fresh. I agree. I was with Redhat starting with 6, and left after Fedora 9 got too restrictive with things. I have done upgrades, and it wasn't pretty, between major releases. Going from CentOS 5.2 to 5.3 is most worthy of doing a backup, no matter what. The caution about first updating glibc (?) is important. I recall from the update to 5.2, there is a difference, between yum upgrade and yum update. I believe yum upgrade is a better way to go from 5.2 to 5.3.*BACKUP*, read the Release Notes and then you are ready to roll. Probably the standard CentOS Repos that you have from the original install will do it. OK, sounds good. Thanks, everyone! Just to clarify for others reading this, going from 5.2 to 5.3 (or any point release) is NOT considered a major upgrade (unlike going from 4 to 5 which is), so doing a backup, clean install and restore is NOT the recommended procedure. Just perform a straight yum upgrade. You should be backing up your personal/business data anyways, but an extra one right before any upgrade is good practice. Don't bother with the standard system executables, just the data and configs. -Ross ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
Yes, there are not too many surprises with CentOS. However, debian has also had a very good reputation for stability - and Ubuntu builds on that while also providing timely releases. Please do not subscribe to the notion that ubuntu builds on Debian stability. Ubuntu has had releases with certain key tools broken such as the GNOME Network configuration tool. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have seen attacks and mitigations that often never make it out to the public, or make it out after we have worked with the vendors for weeks to get patches before the S* hits the fans. I am particularly paranoid about what may be exposed on a gateway/firewall while waiting for that all so important patch. I don't like SME's laid back attitude to getting a 1st install patched, for example. One 1st install, all services on the server MUST be blocked until current updates are installed and configured, and only then opened. So, no, your explaination does not make me feel more comfortable. But then as indicated, I am a hard one to make comfortable I could have missed something, but I don't recall any services being open on the external nic until you configure them. Are any? If you have a 1-nic setup they probably assume that something else is handling the firewalling. That's not particularly relevant - if you access from more than one location you might want to set up imaps access so all the messages are stored on the server and available through the hoard web interface if you aren't at you usual client(s). I was at the IETF when IMAP was brought out of CMU and standardized, I know the beast all too well. Yeah, on R4 and you still can't count on a good notification mechanism, but it is usable. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 08:43 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Yes, there are not too many surprises with CentOS. However, debian has also had a very good reputation for stability - and Ubuntu builds on that while also providing timely releases. Please do not subscribe to the notion that ubuntu builds on Debian stability. you must mean because they build on the unstable branch. Ubuntu has had releases with certain key tools broken such as the GNOME Network configuration tool. that I believe is an upstream issue that affects all distributions who have updated GNOME. Ubuntu is fine - if that gives Les what he's looking for, then I say, great. What's the point of this ongoing discussion anyway? Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
Ubuntu has had releases with certain key tools broken such as the GNOME Network configuration tool. that I believe is an upstream issue that affects all distributions who have updated GNOME. Yeah, you are most probably right. I remember being told there was no maintainer for the tool in question. So it just got bundled along in the packaging. Great way to do a release. Ubuntu is fine - if that gives Les what he's looking for, then I say, great. What's the point of this ongoing discussion anyway? It looked like Les was exploring the idea of trying something else and I have been through that and I thought I'd share some of the issues you get when you do that if you do not mind. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 09:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Ubuntu is fine - if that gives Les what he's looking for, then I say, great. What's the point of this ongoing discussion anyway? It looked like Les was exploring the idea of trying something else and I have been through that and I thought I'd share some of the issues you get when you do that if you do not mind. Les has been around a long time and certainly is knowledgeable about many forms of UNIX, Linux, Windows and OS X. He seems to enjoy fomenting discussions about what it is that Red Hat does in general that doesn't suit him but given CentOS philosophy to track upstream as closely as possible, there is no possibility that it will the distribution that will totally satisfy his wants. I see Ubuntu doing much the same things as Fedora and that probably won't be as much of a change as he had hoped but c'est la vie. What he actually wants is a distribution that flips the middle finger to all GPL Free License restrictions, comes with proprietary video drivers, codecs, Sun Java, Adobe stuff, with the latest versions of most everything but is stable. I hope that he finds it. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 21:48 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I need IPv6 so it is a mute point for me. http://grammar.about.com/od/alightersideofwriting/a/mootmutegloss.htm Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
On Mar 31, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 09:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Ubuntu is fine - if that gives Les what he's looking for, then I say, great. What's the point of this ongoing discussion anyway? It looked like Les was exploring the idea of trying something else and I have been through that and I thought I'd share some of the issues you get when you do that if you do not mind. Les has been around a long time and certainly is knowledgeable about many forms of UNIX, Linux, Windows and OS X. He seems to enjoy fomenting discussions about what it is that Red Hat does in general that doesn't suit him but given CentOS philosophy to track upstream as closely as possible, there is no possibility that it will the distribution that will totally satisfy his wants. I see Ubuntu doing much the same things as Fedora and that probably won't be as much of a change as he had hoped but c'est la vie. What he actually wants is a distribution that flips the middle finger to all GPL Free License restrictions, comes with proprietary video drivers, codecs, Sun Java, Adobe stuff, with the latest versions of most everything but is stable. I hope that he finds it. Hey Les, maybe it's OpenSolaris your looking for. You should try it before it becomes OpenAIX. -Ross ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Upgrade
Thomas Dukes wrote: Hello, Just did yum update. There were numerous packages to be updated. I get this is the newest release of Centos. The update bombed stating I need nss-3.12.2.0-2.el5. I did a rpm -q nss and nss-3.12.2.0-4.el5 is install in Cento 5.2. What's up with that? TIA You didn't wait for the official release announcement ;) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
Ross Walker wrote: Les has been around a long time and certainly is knowledgeable about many forms of UNIX, Linux, Windows and OS X. He seems to enjoy fomenting discussions about what it is that Red Hat does in general that doesn't suit him but given CentOS philosophy to track upstream as closely as possible, there is no possibility that it will the distribution that will totally satisfy his wants. I see Ubuntu doing much the same things as Fedora and that probably won't be as much of a change as he had hoped but c'est la vie. Ubuntu has both fast turnover versions like fedora and LTS (long term support) versions with an enterprise flavor. What he actually wants is a distribution that flips the middle finger to all GPL Free License restrictions, comes with proprietary video drivers, codecs, Sun Java, Adobe stuff, with the latest versions of most everything but is stable.I hope that he finds it. I don't believe I've ever mentioned codecs specifically, but I don't want any restrictions on what I or someone else can add, even if it involves drivers or linking to other components. And I do believe Red Hat has done enormous harm to java by shipping something that wasn't java and basically wouldn't work for years in both the fedora and RH distributions. Hey Les, maybe it's OpenSolaris your looking for. OpenSolaris still seems a little sort on drivers, but yes, I think OpenSolaris with a package manger and a large repository of packages maintained by a friendly community would be ideal. That looks like where Nexenta is heading, but slowly. You should try it before it becomes OpenAIX. I always thought Sun would be a better match for Apple to round out the client/server mix, but they are from somewhat different planets. Is OpenSolaris still closely controlled by Sun? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 09:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Ubuntu is fine - if that gives Les what he's looking for, then I say, great. What's the point of this ongoing discussion anyway? It looked like Les was exploring the idea of trying something else and I have been through that and I thought I'd share some of the issues you get when you do that if you do not mind. Les has been around a long time and certainly is knowledgeable about many forms of UNIX, Linux, Windows and OS X. He seems to enjoy fomenting discussions about what it is that Red Hat does in general that doesn't suit him but given CentOS philosophy to track upstream as closely as possible, there is no possibility that it will the distribution that will totally satisfy his wants. I see Ubuntu doing much the same things as Fedora and that probably won't be as much of a change as he had hoped but c'est la vie. What he actually wants is a distribution that flips the middle finger to all GPL Free License restrictions, comes with proprietary video drivers, codecs, Sun Java, Adobe stuff, with the latest versions of most everything but is stable. I hope that he finds it. Mac OS X? Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 People who relieve others of their money with guns are called robbers. It does not alter the immorality of the act when the income transfer is carried out by government. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
Bill Campbell wrote: Les has been around a long time and certainly is knowledgeable about many forms of UNIX, Linux, Windows and OS X. He seems to enjoy fomenting discussions about what it is that Red Hat does in general that doesn't suit him but given CentOS philosophy to track upstream as closely as possible, there is no possibility that it will the distribution that will totally satisfy his wants. I see Ubuntu doing much the same things as Fedora and that probably won't be as much of a change as he had hoped but c'est la vie. What he actually wants is a distribution that flips the middle finger to all GPL Free License restrictions, comes with proprietary video drivers, codecs, Sun Java, Adobe stuff, with the latest versions of most everything but is stable. I hope that he finds it. Mac OS X? Actually that's what I run at home but it's not a great server and Apple gives you plenty of reasons to hate them too. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: I always thought Sun would be a better match for Apple to round out the client/server mix, but they are from somewhat different planets. Is OpenSolaris still closely controlled by Sun? You know I felt the exact same way. I just don't see IBM and Sun cultures mixing, but I guess we'll see. I don't know if Sun still governs OpenSolaris, I know they are very tight as often new technologies are rolled from OpenSolaris to Solaris, but OpenSolaris might have it's own governing body now. -Ross ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4
Is OpenSolaris still closely controlled by Sun? I don't know if Sun still governs OpenSolaris, I know they are very tight as often new technologies are rolled from OpenSolaris to Solaris, but OpenSolaris might have it's own governing body now. Ha! There are very few non Sun employees involved unless things have changed big time in the last three months. OpenSolaris is now something you can get paid support for from Sun. There will be a LTS release coming too. I don't think OpenSolaris will go the way Java has gone any time soon. Look how long it took for Java to reach that stage. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 21:48 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I need IPv6 so it is a mute point for me. http://grammar.about.com/od/alightersideofwriting/a/mootmutegloss.htm I am dyslexic. This is a trivial malaprop compared to many I have dropped. My dear wife has suffered much with this But read The Gift of Dyslexia by Ron Burns. I think quite visually and 3 dimensionally; part of the reason I am in protocol design. I see networks and packets flashing around in my mind. Then comes the struggle to convert those images into words. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 23:57 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 21:48 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I need IPv6 so it is a mute point for me. http://grammar.about.com/od/alightersideofwriting/a/mootmutegloss.htm I am dyslexic. This is a trivial malaprop compared to many I have dropped. My dear wife has suffered much with this But read The Gift of Dyslexia by Ron Burns. I think quite visually and 3 dimensionally; part of the reason I am in protocol design. I see networks and packets flashing around in my mind. Then comes the struggle to convert those images into words. sorry...don't mean to pick on you and my brother is dyslexic so I get it. I never pick on people's spelling. I didn't relate the wrong usage of mute/moot to dyslexia and have a particular sensitivity to the number of people who use the fairly similar sounding words wrongly (and many do). Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Replacing my Scalix mail server
Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 23:57 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 21:48 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I need IPv6 so it is a mute point for me. http://grammar.about.com/od/alightersideofwriting/a/mootmutegloss.htm I am dyslexic. This is a trivial malaprop compared to many I have dropped. My dear wife has suffered much with this But read The Gift of Dyslexia by Ron Burns. I think quite visually and 3 dimensionally; part of the reason I am in protocol design. I see networks and packets flashing around in my mind. Then comes the struggle to convert those images into words. sorry...don't mean to pick on you and my brother is dyslexic so I get it. I never pick on people's spelling. I didn't relate the wrong usage of mute/moot to dyslexia and have a particular sensitivity to the number of people who use the fairly similar sounding words wrongly (and many do). If you read Burn's book, you learn there are many flavors of Dyslexia. He even groups Dysgraphia in. My challenge is at the word level, not the letter level. I do word substitution when reading and writing. What is scary is when the substitution almost makes sense, but on inspection is obviously wrong. I have made some really phenomenal bloopers when speaking to large audiences and have been called on them and laughed along with my audience... Grammer check is my VERY good friend ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
