[CentOS-virt] Useless use of AllowOverride

2010-04-13 Thread Manoj Rajput
Hello,

While i m trying to start my apache server i am getting following error.

[Wed Apr 14 01:47:58 2010] [warn] Useless use of AllowOverride in line 31 of
/home/tomcat/conf/mod_jk.conf.
[Wed Apr 14 01:47:58 2010] [warn] Useless use of AllowOverride in line 36 of
/home/tomcat/conf/mod_jk.conf.


Please let me know if you have any solution regarding this.


Thanks  Regards
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Useless use of AllowOverride

2010-04-13 Thread Larry Brower
Manoj Rajput wrote:
 Hello,
 
 While i m trying to start my apache server i am getting following error.
 
 [Wed Apr 14 01:47:58 2010] [warn] Useless use of AllowOverride in line 
 31 of /home/tomcat/conf/mod_jk.conf.
 [Wed Apr 14 01:47:58 2010] [warn] Useless use of AllowOverride in line 
 36 of /home/tomcat/conf/mod_jk.conf.
 

Did you bother to read the documentation?

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#allowoverride

This is only allowed in directory context.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Actualizaciones y welcome.conf

2010-04-13 Thread Andres Lucena
2010/4/12 Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com

 On 04/12/2010 10:29 AM, Andres Lucena wrote:
  Buenas,
 
  Siempre que actualizo un servidor apache vuelve a aparecer el fichero
  /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf  (no importa la version, me pasa en todos
 los
  servidores, pero por ejemplo httpd-2.2.3 en CentOS 5.4)
 
  Mi pregunta es si hay alguna forma de hacer que no vuelva a aparecer cada
  vez q lo reinstalo.
 
 En efecto, a mi me pasa con un proxy_ajp.conf que hay ahi. El problema
 es que si lo borras centos educadamente le pone. Si lo viera de alguna
 forma, le pondría rpmnew (y no afectaría)

 es por eso que yo al menos le comento el archivo completamente
 (afortunadamente son bien pequeños) ya centos lo ve y no le pone nuevo.
 sino como rpmnew.

 Buenas,

Ya, es lo que me imaginaba. Tampoco pasa nada por tener el fichero
comentado, pero casi parece un hack, no?

Saludos,
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Re: [CentOS-es] Actualizaciones y welcome.conf

2010-04-13 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
 Ya, es lo que me imaginaba. Tampoco pasa nada por tener el fichero
 comentado, pero casi parece un hack, no?
jeje no, no pasa nada y realmente no veo otra vía factible.

saludos!
epe
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Re: [CentOS-es] Actualizaciones y welcome.conf

2010-04-13 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
2010/4/13 Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com:
 Ya, es lo que me imaginaba. Tampoco pasa nada por tener el fichero
 comentado, pero casi parece un hack, no?
 jeje no, no pasa nada y realmente no veo otra vía factible.

Compañeros, no se sientan tan culpables... es el procedimiento
recomendado en el mismo archivo :D

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[CentOS-es] BPM

2010-04-13 Thread Enrique Fernandez
Saludos a todos.
Alguien ha tenido alguna experiencia implementado productos de BPM para 
la gestión de procesos administrativos. He evaluado BizAgi, y 
ProcessMaker, y ninguno de los dos me termina de convencer.
Agradezco cualquier comentario.
Gracias
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[CentOS-es] Squid Transparente

2010-04-13 Thread Orlando Pantoja Jr
Hola amigos, quisiera me ayudaran en algo, llevo días tratando de montar
un Squid transparente a mi red local solo para que me sirva de caché y
mejore la velocidad de mi navegación.

Tengo un CentOS 5.4 con una sola interfaz de red y estoy detrás de un
proxy padre que tiene por IP/puerto 10.30.1.6:3128. ya está definido en
mis clientes que el gateway será el server donde está montado el squid. He
probado varias combinaciones y no he logrado lo que quiero, ejemplo: 1. La
navegación sigue lenta, aún en páginas que supuestamente deberían estar en
la caché.

2. Cuando detengo el proxy la navegación continúa, pero me rechaza las
páginas locales, o sea, no me carga ni mi FTP, ni mi sitio web de la red
local, ni el webmail, nada debía ser al revés no?.. Si detengo el
squid no se puede salir a Internet, ni siquiera debería llegar al otro
proxy (padre)

Suponiendo que mi red sea 10.31.246.0 con máscara de subred 255.255.255.0,
la IP de mi server sea 10.31.246.1 y la IP del proxy padre sea 10.30.1.6
por el puerto 3128, cómo podría configurar mi squid para que funcione como
proxy caché?

Espero me puedan ayudar con esto, ya que estoy muy necesitado de que
mejore mi conexión, pues solo tengo un ancho de banda de 64 kbps y tengo
19 PCs conectadas a este enlace, imaginarán que cuando todas están
navegando se hace insoportable entrar a cualquier página.

Gracias adelantadas


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Re: [CentOS-es] Actualizaciones y welcome.conf

2010-04-13 Thread Andres Lucena
2010/4/13 Eduardo Grosclaude eduardo.groscla...@gmail.com

 2010/4/13 Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@nuestroserver.com:
  Ya, es lo que me imaginaba. Tampoco pasa nada por tener el fichero
  comentado, pero casi parece un hack, no?
  jeje no, no pasa nada y realmente no veo otra vía factible.

 Compañeros, no se sientan tan culpables... es el procedimiento
 recomendado en el mismo archivo :D



Je, si, esta claro... Para los que no quieran hacer el cat:

#
# This configuration file enables the default Welcome
# page if there is no default index page present for
# the root URL.  To disable the Welcome page, comment
# out all the lines below.
#

Pasa que yo soy de la escuela de Debian y estoy mas acostumbrado al a2ensite
y todas esas movidas.

Todavia no estoy acostumbrado al welcome.conf, lo tipico que cuando instale
el apache por primera vez en RHEL me quede flipandola por no ver el It
Works!.

Saludos,
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Re: [CentOS-es] expiración de cuentas

2010-04-13 Thread Renato Covarrubias
El 12/04/10 16:05, Germán Suárez escribió:
 Gracias por el aporte.
 ya probe, pero no he podido encontrar la clave para solucionar el
 tema, espero me puedan dar otras ideas que me puedan ayudar a
 solucionar el tema...

Un extracto de `man passwd`:

-w This  will set the number of days in advance the user will begin
   receiving warnings that her password will expire, if the  user’s
   account supports password lifetimes.  Available to root only.

-i This  will  set  the  number  of  days which will pass before an
   expired password for this account will be taken to mean that the
   account  is  inactive  and  should  be  disabled,  if the user’s
   account supports password lifetimes.  Available to root only.

Será eso?

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Re: [CentOS-es] expiración de cuentas

2010-04-13 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
2010/4/12 Germán Suárez germansuar...@gmail.com:
 Cordial saludo lista.

 Estoy tratando de asignar una fecha de expiración a las cuentas, lo
 estoy haciendo con el comando chage, tambien lo he intentado por la
 configuración de usuarios y por webmin pero no obtengo los resultados
 esperados.
 Lo que quiero hacer es que la primera vez que entre el usuarios le
 pida cambio de contraseña. y que luego le pida cambiarla cada 30 dias,
 avisandole 7 días antes que debe cambiarla, que nunca inactive la
 cuenta y que la cuenta expire el 31 de Diciembre de 2010.

 las difrentes combinaciones del comando chage que he utilizado es el 
 siguiente:

 chage username -m 30 -M 0
 chage username -m 30 -M 0 -e 20100412
 chage username -m 30 -M 0 -e 20100412 -I 1
 chage username -m 30 -M 0 -e 20100412 -W 7

 sin embargo ern algunos casos me pide cambiar la contraseña pero
 cuando le doy la nueva contraseña inmediatamente me saca del emulador
 Tengo entendido que tambien lo puedo hacer con el comando passwd.
 Agradezco cualquier luz ue me puedan dar sobre el tema

Me parece que algunas opciones no están bien seleccionadas. Yo probaría con:

-M 30 (cambiarla cada 30 días)
-E 2010-12-31 (expira el 31 de dic)
-d 2010-01-01 (última fecha en que se considera que cambió la pass)
-W 7 (avisar 7 días antes)

Según mi 'man chage' la opción de expiración es -E, no -e, y la fecha
cuando representa una fecha calendario normal (y no una diferencia
entre fechas) se pone con guiones. No encontré la opción -e
(minúscula).

También según el manual, cuando la fecha de -d, sumándole los días
de -M, da un resultado que es anterior a hoy, entonces el usuario
deberá cambiar la password antes de usar su cuenta. Así, eligiendo una
fecha para -d que sea anterior en más de un mes a la fecha de
creación de la cuenta, fuerzas a que cambie la password en el primer
login.

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Re: [CentOS] Cloud on CentOS

2010-04-13 Thread Tsuyoshi Nagata
(2010/04/13 13:29), CList wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there any tutorial/implementation cloud on CentOS? Or anyone with
 experience like to share?
 
 Regards and thanks
 wL
 

There is a rpm image for eucalyptus on CentOS.
http://open.eucalyptus.com/downloads

Many experience is available from the comunity.

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[CentOS] how to debug pxe boot problems

2010-04-13 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi all,

I'm  trying to get a pxeboot server up and running, according to the
instructions on the WIKI (http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup/Menus)

Here's my /tftpboot/pxepxelinux.cfg/default :


default menu.c32
prompt 1
timeout 300
ONTIMEOUT local

MENU TITLE PXE Menu

label Dos Bootdisk
MENU LABEL ^Dos bootdisk
kernel memdisk
append initrd=images/622c.img

LABEL CentOS 5 x86_64
MENU LABEL ^CentOS 5 x86_64
kernel images/centos/5/x86_64/vmlinuz
append initrd=images/centos/5/x86_64/initrd.img
ramdisk_size=10 ksdevice=eth0 ip=dhcp url --url
http://192.168.2.250/linux/centos/5/os/x86_64

label linux
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.img ramdisk_size=9216 noapic acpi=of


Then, here's the layout for the CentOS 5 image:

[r...@intranet /]# ll /tftpboot/images/centos/5/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Apr 13 07:20 x86_64 -
/home/www/linux/centos/5/os/x86_64/


As you can see, I linked the folder to a Linux image on the hard
drive. Apache then advertises that folder on the LAN as follows:
http://192.168.2.250/linux/centos/5/os/x86_64 and I can browse the
folders via Firefox.

Yet when I bootup a PC in PXE mode, it doesn't actually load the
CentOS image. I can see the PXE Menu and choose between Dos
Bootdisk, CentOS 5 x86_64 and linux (which I setup as a test).
When I load Dos Bootdisk, I get an error:


Loading memdisk
Could not find ramdisk image:images/622c.img
boot :



So, it's reading the configuration, but not loading the CentOS boot
image. /var/log/messages doesn't give my any errors on this (yes I
know how to read /var/log/messages)
Does anyone know how to get pxeboot to output debug messages to
syslog?  OR,what am I doing wrong?  The tutorials I got on the net are
rather vague on this. And please don't tell me to use Cobbler, I
already tried that but no one one this lists supports it.



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Re: [CentOS] how to debug pxe boot problems

2010-04-13 Thread lhecking
Rudi Ahlers writes:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm  trying to get a pxeboot server up and running, according to the
 instructions on the WIKI (http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup
  http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup/Menus)
 
 Here's my /tftpboot/pxepxelinux.cfg/default :
 
 
 default menu.c32
 prompt 1
 timeout 300
 ONTIMEOUT local
 
 MENU TITLE PXE Menu
 
 label Dos Bootdisk
 MENU LABEL ^Dos bootdisk
 kernel memdisk
 append initrd=images/622c.img
 
 LABEL CentOS 5 x86_64
 MENU LABEL ^CentOS 5 x86_64
 kernel images/centos/5/x86_64/vmlinuz
 append initrd=images/centos/5/x86_64/initrd.img
 ramdisk_size=10 ksdevice=eth0 ip=dhcp url --url
 http://192.168.2.250/linux/centos/5/os/x86_64
 
 label linux
 kernel vmlinuz
 append initrd=initrd.img ramdisk_size=9216 noapic acpi=of
 
 
 Then, here's the layout for the CentOS 5 image:
 
 [r...@intranet /]# ll /tftpboot/images/centos/5/
 total 0
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Apr 13 07:20 x86_64 -
 /home/www/linux/centos/5/os/x86_64/
 
 
 As you can see, I linked the folder to a Linux image on the hard
 drive. Apache then advertises that folder on the LAN as follows:
 http://192.168.2.250/linux/centos/5/os/x86_64 and I can browse the
 folders via Firefox.
 
 Yet when I bootup a PC in PXE mode, it doesn't actually load the
 CentOS image. I can see the PXE Menu and choose between Dos
 Bootdisk, CentOS 5 x86_64 and linux (which I setup as a test).
 When I load Dos Bootdisk, I get an error:
 
 
 Loading memdisk
 Could not find ramdisk image:images/622c.img
 boot :
 
 
 
 So, it's reading the configuration, but not loading the CentOS boot
 image. /var/log/messages doesn't give my any errors on this (yes I
 know how to read /var/log/messages)
 Does anyone know how to get pxeboot to output debug messages to
 syslog?  OR,what am I doing wrong?  The tutorials I got on the net are
 rather vague on this. And please don't tell me to use Cobbler, I
 already tried that but no one one this lists supports it.

 You need to have the kernel and initrd under the tftpboot directory,
 i.e. not symlinked. I presume /home is automounted? Your boot environment
 doesn't know about autofs.




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Re: [CentOS] how to debug pxe boot problems

2010-04-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rudi Ahlers wrote on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:55:43 +0200:

 When I load Dos Bootdisk, I get an error:
 
 
 Loading memdisk
 Could not find ramdisk image:images/622c.img
 boot :
 
 
 
 So, it's reading the configuration, but not loading the CentOS boot
 image.

I don't see that you tested the CentOS boot image. You tested loading a 
DOS image and that obviously doesn't find images/622c.img

 Does anyone know how to get pxeboot to output debug messages to
 syslog?  OR,what am I doing wrong?

What do you want to see more? It does not find that image. That's pretty 
clear, isn't it? Put kernel and initrd always in the same directory.
And why you are trying to boot a DOS disk when you want to boot CentOS, I 
don't know.

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Re: [CentOS] how to debug pxe boot problems

2010-04-13 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote:
 Rudi Ahlers wrote on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:55:43 +0200:

 When I load Dos Bootdisk, I get an error:


 Loading memdisk
 Could not find ramdisk image:images/622c.img
 boot :



 So, it's reading the configuration, but not loading the CentOS boot
 image.

 I don't see that you tested the CentOS boot image. You tested loading a
 DOS image and that obviously doesn't find images/622c.img

The others does nothing when I try and boot them


 Does anyone know how to get pxeboot to output debug messages to
 syslog?  OR,what am I doing wrong?

 What do you want to see more? It does not find that image. That's pretty
 clear, isn't it? Put kernel and initrd always in the same directory.


 And why you are trying to boot a DOS disk when you want to boot CentOS, I
 don't know.

Cause I used the sample configation on the WIKI, and the DOS option is
listed. Why is it listed on the Wiki if ppl are going to question it's
usage?


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[CentOS] Swap = 0

2010-04-13 Thread cahit Eyigünlü
My server returning an error sth. like swap =  0 then locking httpd and all
other services
is this normal
this is a virtual machine and i give it 3 gb ram and 4cpu of i7 920
i have 1 gbit connection on this machine
finally i have 4000+ clients at one time :S
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Re: [CentOS] how to debug pxe boot problems

2010-04-13 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Rudi Ahlers wrote:

 The others does nothing when I try and boot them
 
 
 And why you are trying to boot a DOS disk when you want to boot CentOS, I
 don't know.
 
 Cause I used the sample configation on the WIKI, and the DOS option is
 listed. Why is it listed on the Wiki if ppl are going to question it's
 usage?
 

Hi

Which others? Are you sure that are you using the right vmlinuz and initrd?

Which Wiki did you use? Was this one?
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup
I don't see any reference to DOS.

Regards

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[CentOS] XFS-filesystem corrupted by defragmentation Was: Performance problems with XFS on Centos 5.4

2010-04-13 Thread Bernhard Gschaider

Before I'd try to defragment my whole filesystem (see attached mail
for whole story) I figured Let's try it on some file.

So I did

 xfs_bmap /raid/Temp/someDiskimage.iso
[output shows 101 extents and 1 hole]

Then I defragmented the file
 xfs_fsr /raid/Temp/someDiskimage.iso
extents before:101 after:3 DONE

 xfs_bmap /raid/Temp/someDiskimage.iso
[output shows 3 extents and 1 hole]

and now comes the bummer: i wanted to check the fragmentation of the
whole filesystem (just for checking):

 xfs_db -r /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol04
xfs_db: unexpected XFS SB magic number 0x
xfs_db: read failed: Invalid argument
xfs_db: data size check failed
cache_node_purge: refcount was 1, not zero (node=0x2a25c20)
xfs_db: cannot read root inode (22)

THAT output was definitly not there when I did this the last time and
therefor the new fragmentation does not make me happy either

xfs_db frag
actual 0, ideal 0, fragmentation factor 0.00%

The file-system is still mounted and working and I don't dare to do
anything about it (am in a mild state of panic) because I think it
might not come back if I do.

Any suggestions most welcome (am googling myself before I do anything
about it).

I swear to god: I did not do anything else with the xfs_*-commands
than the stuff mentioned above

Bernhard

---BeginMessage---

 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:59:02 -0400
 RW == Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote:

RW On Apr 9, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Bernhard Gschaider
RW bgschaid_li...@ice-
sf.at wrote:

 Hi!
 
 During the last weeks I experienced some performance problems
 with a large file-system on XFS basis. Sometimes for instance
 ls is painfully. Immidiatly afterwards ls on the same directory
 is immidiate. I used strace on this ls and found that during
 the first ls the lstat-calls need approx 0.02s each while
 during the second ls the are two orders of magnitude faster.
 
 Googling around I stumbled upon some messages similar like this
 
 http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/linux-...@oss.sgi.com/1355060.html
 
 which have in common a) they're from around 2006 b) they
 suggest to increase a mount-option ihashsize. This mount option
 is listed as deprecated in the current kernel-doc
 
 So my question: does anyone have experience with that kind of
 performance problem? Do you think it is a XFS problem or are
 there some other tuning parameters in the kernel that could be
 modified for instance via /proc?
 
 The reason why I'm asking here is that it is a production
 file-system so I would be very unpopular if I experiment too
 much (a couple of reboots is OK ;) )
 
 Bernhard
 
 PS: the situation got worse during the last weeks when the
 file-system increased in size, so the option that some kind of
 buffer now is too small and I'm experiencing some kind of
 thrashing seems very likely to me

RW Are you defragging the file system regularly?

Uups. Never occured to me (Fragmentation is s Windoze)
Had a look:

xfs_db frag
actual 6349355, ideal 4865683, fragmentation factor 23.37%

This seems significant.

RW How much memory do you have in the system and how big is the
RW file system?

Memory on the system is 4Gig (2 DualCore Xenons). The filesystem is
3.5 TB of which 740 Gig are used. Which is the maximum amount used
during the one year that the filesystem is being used (that is why the
high fragmentation amazes me)

RW What are the XFS parameters for the file system?

Is this sufficent?

% xfs_info  /raid
meta-data=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol05 isize=256agcount=32, agsize=29434880 blks
 =   sectsz=512   attr=0
data =   bsize=4096   blocks=941916160, imaxpct=25
 =   sunit=0  swidth=0 blks, unwritten=1
naming   =version 2  bsize=4096  
log  =internal   bsize=4096   blocks=32768, version=1
 =   sectsz=512   sunit=0 blks, lazy-count=0
realtime =none   extsz=4096   blocks=0, rtextents=0


RW What is the storage setup?

The filesystem is on a LVM-Volume which sits on a RAID 5 (Hardware
RAID) drive

RW Need the info.

So the way to go forward would be using xfs_fsr on that drive. I read
some horror stories about lost files, are these to be taken seriously
(I mean they were in some Ubuntu forums ;) )

Any other thoughts on parameters?

Thanks for your time

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Re: [CentOS] Swap = 0

2010-04-13 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
cahit Eyigünlü wrote:
 My server returning an error sth. like swap =  0 then locking httpd and 
 all other services 
 is this normal 
 this is a virtual machine and i give it 3 gb ram and 4cpu of i7 920 
 i have 1 gbit connection on this machine 
 finally i have 4000+ clients at one time :S
 
No. This is not normal.

Did you create a swap partition when you were installing the system?

If you do a fdisk /dev/sda, change sda to your disk, you'll see 
something like this:
Device Boot   Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *1  13  104391   83  Linux
/dev/sda214 535 4192965   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3536442731262490   83  Linux


The command free can give you a hint about your swap space:
newt (Linux)$ free
  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   20749561926248 148708  0  279001252224
-/+ buffers/cache: 6461241428832
Swap:  41929561244192832
newt (Linux)$

Regards

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Re: [CentOS] Swap = 0

2010-04-13 Thread cahit Eyigünlü
r...@lin [~]# free

 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached

Mem:   3090588 9088442181744  0  11948 266892

-/+ buffers/cache: 6300042460584

Swap:  2064376  227962041580




2010/4/13 Marcelo M. Garcia marcelo.maia.gar...@googlemail.com

 cahit Eyigünlü wrote:
  My server returning an error sth. like swap =  0 then locking httpd and
  all other services
  is this normal
  this is a virtual machine and i give it 3 gb ram and 4cpu of i7 920
  i have 1 gbit connection on this machine
  finally i have 4000+ clients at one time :S
 
 No. This is not normal.

 Did you create a swap partition when you were installing the system?

 If you do a fdisk /dev/sda, change sda to your disk, you'll see
 something like this:
Device Boot   Start End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sda1   *1  13  104391   83  Linux
 /dev/sda214 535 4192965   82  Linux swap / Solaris
 /dev/sda3536442731262490   83  Linux


 The command free can give you a hint about your swap space:
 newt (Linux)$ free
  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
 Mem:   20749561926248 148708  0  279001252224
 -/+ buffers/cache: 6461241428832
 Swap:  41929561244192832
 newt (Linux)$

 Regards

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Re: [CentOS] how to debug pxe boot problems

2010-04-13 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Marcelo M. Garcia
marcelo.maia.gar...@googlemail.com wrote:
others? Are you sure that are you using the right vmlinuz and initrd?

 Which Wiki did you use? Was this one?
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup
 I don't see any reference to DOS.

 Regards

 mg.


2nd part of that tutorial: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup/Menus



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Re: [CentOS] Swap = 0

2010-04-13 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
Cahit,
2010/4/13 cahit Eyigünlü cahit.eyigu...@gmail.com:
 My server returning an error sth. like swap =  0 then locking httpd and all
Set up a monitoring tool like sar etc. or my favourite, nmon with
capacity planning. Depending on what those 4k users are doing, you
might be running out of RAM + swap space until the out-of-memory
killer kicks in and frees up some space by killing some processes. You
should be able to see that activity in the message logfile.
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Re: [CentOS] Swap = 0

2010-04-13 Thread cahit Eyigünlü
Actually that is better i think ;

is there any optimization tool i have added 2 more gb ram but it is still
locking server :S


top - 13:11:13 up 33 min,  2 users,  load average: 29.96, 13.75, 10.97

Tasks: 280 total,  40 running, 236 sleeping,   0 stopped,   4 zombie

Cpu(s): 61.1%us, 34.2%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  4.4%si,
0.0%st

Mem:   3090588k total,  2481096k used,   609492k free,16068k buffers

Swap:  2064376k total,22796k used,  2041580k free,   274104k cached



  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND

 4331 root  18   0  169m 131m  764 S  0.0  4.3   0:01.75 /usr/sbin/clamd

 4228 mysql 15   0  356m  53m 3904 S 24.0  1.8   5:42.20
/usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/ --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mys

2010/4/13 Hakan Koseoglu ha...@koseoglu.org

 Cahit,
 2010/4/13 cahit Eyigünlü cahit.eyigu...@gmail.com:
  My server returning an error sth. like swap =  0 then locking httpd and
 all
 Set up a monitoring tool like sar etc. or my favourite, nmon with
 capacity planning. Depending on what those 4k users are doing, you
 might be running out of RAM + swap space until the out-of-memory
 killer kicks in and frees up some space by killing some processes. You
 should be able to see that activity in the message logfile.
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Re: [CentOS] Swap = 0

2010-04-13 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
Cahit,

2010/4/13 cahit Eyigünlü cahit.eyigu...@gmail.com:
 is there any optimization tool i have added 2 more gb ram but it is still
 locking server :S
Which bit do you want to optimize?

 top - 13:11:13 up 33 min,  2 users,  load average: 29.96, 13.75, 10.97x

 Tasks: 280 total,  40 running, 236 sleeping,   0 stopped,   4 zombie

 Cpu(s): 61.1%us, 34.2%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  4.4%si,
 0.0%st
 Mem:   3090588k total,  2481096k used,   609492k free,    16068k buffers

 Swap:  2064376k total,    22796k used,  2041580k free,   274104k cached

Your server is pretty busy with such a high load, you might like to
throw more RAM and more CPU. 1/3d of the time is spent serving the
system itself. The IO waits are zero which is nice but you're still
spending a lot of time for the sys and si (software interrupts).

  4331 root  18   0  169m 131m  764 S  0.0  4.3   0:01.75 /usr/sbin/clamd

  4228 mysql 15   0  356m  53m 3904 S 24.0  1.8   5:42.20
 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/ --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mys

Both of these are sleeping but you have to check why you have clamd
running. Do you serve files and require antivirus on the server?

If your server is a LAMP setup, serving php etc. with a mysql backend,
you might like to disable that.

Have a look at nmon from IBM and the analysis spreadsheet it has
(unfortunately that requires Windows Office, I never managed to get
that run successfully under OpenOffice). Nmon will collect the stats
and when you feed them to the analyser spreadsheet, you can see which
processes have grabbed the disk  CPU and when.

There are other tools out there as well but my preference has been
nmon for various other reasons (well, I have to deal with AIX boxes a
lot as well and it comes by default with the latest versions and it
works perfectly fine with CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu as well)..

You can run nmon with -t option (capacity planning, 15 min samples for
a day) or with customized options (don't forget -t for spreadsheet
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Re: [CentOS] XFS-filesystem corrupted by defragmentation Was: Performance problems with XFS on Centos 5.4

2010-04-13 Thread James Pearson
Bernhard Gschaider wrote:
 Before I'd try to defragment my whole filesystem (see attached mail
 for whole story) I figured Let's try it on some file.

Might be better to ask on the XFS list: x...@oss.sgi.com - see:

http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs

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Re: [CentOS] how to debug pxe boot problems

2010-04-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rudi Ahlers wrote on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:12:07 +0200:

 2nd part of that tutorial: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE/PXE_Setup/Menus

That is only an example. If you want to boot CentOS you have to boot that. 
Your DOS image can fail for a lot of reasons including that it is not PXE-
bootbale. Troubleshooting on the wrong thing just wastes time.

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Re: [CentOS] Cloud on CentOS

2010-04-13 Thread Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann
On 13/04/2010 05:29, CList wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there any tutorial/implementation cloud on CentOS? Or anyone with
 experience like to share?

Can you be a little more specific. Do you want the Virtualisation, the 
Management, the Storage, the Processing. Basically what do you want to 
do with the cloud? There are so many options of building the cloud stack.

I am about to write how to get hadoop on CentOS if you want some 
information on that?

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Re: [CentOS] rsyslog 4.x or 5.x version for Centos 5.4

2010-04-13 Thread f...@ll
W dniu 12.04.2010 15:56, Jim Perrin pisze:
 On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:01 AM, f...@ll for...@stalowka.info wrote:
 I was looking for centos 5.4 package rsyslog version 5.x or 4.x as rpm.
 Any repo exist with this package?
 
 In 5.5, rsyslog will be rebased to 3.x. If you really need a 4.x
 version, the IUS community repository has it packaged.

Hi,

Thx, and I have other question, there other exist repositories like IUS
Community?


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[CentOS] Next Newsletter release

2010-04-13 Thread Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann
Hey

Due to that the last release was a last minute thing again I want to 
announce that no more information will be added to the Newsletter after 
the 25th. of April. So could everyone who wants to contribute please 
send me the stuff till then.

This then should give us a week to proof read everything and give the 
translators a head start :)

*I still need a user desktop photo*

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Re: [CentOS] Next Newsletter release

2010-04-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:

 Due to that the last release was a last minute thing again I want to
 announce that no more information will be added to the Newsletter after
 the 25th. of April.

Er, what newsletter is this ...?

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Re: [CentOS] how to debug pxe boot problems

2010-04-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rudi Ahlers wrote on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:43:34 +0200:

 Cause I used the sample configation on the WIKI,

No, you didn't, you deviated from the tutorial and used different paths.
And, beyond that, it's a menu tutorial. Your menu works.

Anyway, you cannot just test with other images you know nothing about. That 
DOS image may simply not be PXE-bootable. Go back and try to make the 
simplest test case work. The simplest test case is the one with just the 
vmlinuz kernel and initrd and no other parameters. Follow the tutorial 
exactly and don't deviate before you know that it works. I followed that 
tutorial some years ago when I first started using kickstart PXE installation 
setups and it worked almost instantly. The only thing is that one has to be 
carefull with paths. At least with 5.0/5.1, it somehow didn't like to use the 
paths I told it but always used the initrd from the same directory. Keep that 
in mind. I don't know if that changed. The isolinux in CentOS is as old as 
CentOS, remember that.

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Re: [CentOS] Amazon S3FS Automounter of sorts

2010-04-13 Thread Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann
On 12/04/2010 17:44, Matt Keating wrote:
 I found it works well with FTPing into the server and uploading to the
 mounted bucket.
 Reason its like this is that there are lots of different people who upload
 throughout our company. It was much easier giving out the FTP details, which
 were totally under our control (Username/Pass,Firewall,etc), rather than
 giving out the S3 logins.

Sounds like a good reason :)


 I hope you are aware that everything you put on your s3 is publicly
 available if someone knows your bucket name.

 Yes, I am aware of that - its all being served on the net anyway.
 If I remove the Pubic read only, will the files still be accessible via
 cloudfront?

I hope not. And a little test confirms this. If you are serving it out 
anyway that is fine. I just had a client that had all his backup files 
publicly readable, because of this type of configuration error.

 I tried mounting it like you, but just ran into too many problems,
 especially if you access files from many machines.

 What issues did you run into? As I haven't had any problems as of yet.

If it is a one way transfer it is fine. But if you modify files etc 
caching issues where horrible. Files overwritten etc ... But if you are 
just pushing stuff onto a server it should work.

For the backup I have used s3tools too. I have a little script that 
looks at what is in the bucket and what is in the local folder and then 
syncs them up. But I suppose that is what the fuse file system does :)

For your auto-mount script. Can't you mount it when someone logs on over 
ftp. And then if no one is logged on any more unmount it.

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Re: [CentOS] rsyslog 4.x or 5.x version for Centos 5.4

2010-04-13 Thread Jim Perrin
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:53 AM, f...@ll for...@stalowka.info wrote:

 Thx, and I have other question, there other exist repositories like IUS
 Community?

Yes. There are a number of additional repositories that can be used to
add or update packages on your system. There's a list of known ones on
the centos wiki.

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[CentOS] CentOS-3, is this what I need?

2010-04-13 Thread Prashant Saxena
Hi,

I am new to linux and so far I have only used ubuntu. I have 
developed a python application which I would like package and 
distribute. The problem with
packaging tools such as pyinstaller and 
cx_freeze is that you have to compile the bootloader first. Now If I 
compile the loader on karmic 9.10, the binary
would suffer from 
compatibility issue. In other words I won't be able to execute the app 
on a lower version such as ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS.

The solution is to 
use as much as old libc as you can to compile the bootloader. It seems 
CentOS-3 is based on glibc 2.3, which is pretty old and if I compile
and do other stuff of on CentOS-3, it'll do the job and hopefully covers 
almost all the end user base that I am expecting will use the app. It 
may possible that
I might face some issues with my requirements 
mentioned below but I have no practical idea about them.

As I 
mentioned before that I am new to linux and I always prefer to use 
VirtualBox, when ever I try any new distribution.

In short these 
are my requirements and I would like to know whether CentOS-3 is the 
right choice for me or not?

1. Use VirtualBox. XP Host  
CentOS-3 guest.
2. python 2.6.4
3. wxPython 2.8.10.1 from 
wxWidgets repository 
4. libcairo 1.8.8
5. pycairo 1.8.6
6. 
couple of other python modules.

Are these packages available or 
if not can be downloaded from other repositories? I am also concerned 
about my requirements that whether they themselves will suffer from 
binary dependency issue or not because I of using CentOS-3.

Some 
one also suggested that you should also compile your 
requirements(python, wxpython etc.) along with the bootloader and this 
would make your package and underlying libraries backward compatible and lesser 
chance of any failure. 


Best regards

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Re: [CentOS] Next Newsletter release

2010-04-13 Thread Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann
On 13/04/2010 13:00, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:

 Due to that the last release was a last minute thing again I want to
 announce that no more information will be added to the Newsletter after
 the 25th. of April.

 Er, what newsletter is this ...?

1003, the one that will be release on the first of May.

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Re: [CentOS] XFS-filesystem corrupted by defragmentation Was: Performance problems with XFS on Centos 5.4

2010-04-13 Thread Bernhard Gschaider

 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:58:39 +0100
 JP == James Pearson jame...@moving-picture.com wrote:

JP Bernhard Gschaider wrote:
 Before I'd try to defragment my whole filesystem (see attached
 mail for whole story) I figured Let's try it on some file.

JP Might be better to ask on the XFS list: x...@oss.sgi.com -
JP see:

JP http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs

Thank you. I did. I just figured that if this is a problem specific to
the version of the xfs-utils that come with CentOS somebody here might
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[CentOS] PXE Boot : Clonezilla

2010-04-13 Thread premrajm
Hi,

I wanted to set up Clonezilla Tools on my client machine via PXE Boot. How 
do I do it. I got information from the 
web, but after making changes in the dhcpd.conf file, the dhcpd fails to 
start. In the BIOS after enabling the PXE Boot,
iam not able to see an Clonezilla menu options that i have placed in 
/pxelinux.cfg file. Iam using centos-5.3 on Intel Board

Please provide me with some more information on the same.
 
Regards,
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[CentOS] PXE Boot : Clonezilla

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I wanted to set up Clonezilla Tools on my client machine via PXE Boot. How 
do I do it. I got information from the 
web, but after making changes in the dhcpd.conf file, the dhcpd fails to 
start. In the BIOS after enabling the PXE Boot,
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[CentOS] ACER T230H touchscreen problem!

2010-04-13 Thread Vladimir Zdraveski
Hi,

I am completely new to CentOS(a week), but work on linux almost 2 years.
This touchscreen ACER T230H is probably produced for Windows7, but works
also with Windows XP.

On CentOS works just screen, but not touch. I have no idea how to make
it work. Should I look for driver?

Please give me some advice!?!

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] PXE Boot : Clonezilla

2010-04-13 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
premr...@digilink.in wrote:
 I wanted to set up Clonezilla Tools on my client machine via PXE Boot. 
 How do I do it. I got information from the
 web, but after making changes in the dhcpd.conf file, the dhcpd fails to 
 start. In the BIOS after enabling the PXE Boot,
 iam not able to see an Clonezilla menu options that i have placed in 
 /pxelinux.cfg file. Iam using centos-5.3 on Intel Board
 
 Please provide me with some more information on the same.
 
 Regards,
 Premraj
 

Hi

I think you are the who should provide more information. The sentence 
after making changes in the dhcpd.conf file, the dhcpd fails to start 
doesn't help.

What change?

There are plenty of documentation on the web about how to set up a dhcp 
server, for example:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-dhcp-configuring-server.html

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Re: [CentOS] Next Newsletter release

2010-04-13 Thread m . roth
 On 13/04/2010 13:00, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:

 Due to that the last release was a last minute thing again I want to
 announce that no more information will be added to the Newsletter after
 the 25th. of April.

 Er, what newsletter is this ...?

 1003, the one that will be release on the first of May.

I was under the impression that Tim was asking if this was a Linux
newsletter, or CentOS, or StarWars, the newsletter, or?

mark, newsy

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Re: [CentOS] Amazon S3FS Automounter of sorts

2010-04-13 Thread Matt Keating
 From: Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann d...@ribalba.de
 Reply-To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:11:59 +0100
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Amazon S3FS Automounter of sorts
 
 On 12/04/2010 17:44, Matt Keating wrote:
 I found it works well with FTPing into the server and uploading to the
 mounted bucket.
 Reason its like this is that there are lots of different people who upload
 throughout our company. It was much easier giving out the FTP details, which
 were totally under our control (Username/Pass,Firewall,etc), rather than
 giving out the S3 logins.
 
 Sounds like a good reason :)
 
 
 I hope you are aware that everything you put on your s3 is publicly
 available if someone knows your bucket name.
 
 Yes, I am aware of that - its all being served on the net anyway.
 If I remove the Pubic read only, will the files still be accessible via
 cloudfront?
 
 I hope not. And a little test confirms this. If you are serving it out
 anyway that is fine. I just had a client that had all his backup files
 publicly readable, because of this type of configuration error.
 
 I tried mounting it like you, but just ran into too many problems,
 especially if you access files from many machines.
 
 What issues did you run into? As I haven't had any problems as of yet.
 
 If it is a one way transfer it is fine. But if you modify files etc
 caching issues where horrible. Files overwritten etc ... But if you are
 just pushing stuff onto a server it should work.
Thanks for reply, 

We never need to modify things, so once they are live - they stay that way.
So I guess my situation is ok then.

 For the backup I have used s3tools too. I have a little script that
 looks at what is in the bucket and what is in the local folder and then
 syncs them up. But I suppose that is what the fuse file system does :)

For keeping things in sync, I have a cron job that downloads the list of
files plus hashes from amazon and stores them in a db. I compare that list
to the latest list downloaded and put the new files into a new table. I have
another script running that checks the 'download' table and downoads the
files in there, once completed puts that file into the main list table.
It works fine - no intention on changing that.

 For your auto-mount script. Can't you mount it when someone logs on over
 ftp. And then if no one is logged on any more unmount it.
 
 Cheers Didi
Never thought about writing my own automounter, will give it a go.

Thanks for the input.
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Re: [CentOS] Next Newsletter release

2010-04-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Due to that the last release was a last minute thing again I want to
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 Er, what newsletter is this ...?

 1003, the one that will be release on the first of May.
 
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Quite.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-3, is this what I need?

2010-04-13 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Prashant Saxena animator...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The solution is to
 use as much as old libc as you can to compile the bootloader. It seems
 CentOS-3 is based on glibc 2.3, which is pretty old and if I compile
 and do other stuff of on CentOS-3, it'll do the job and hopefully covers
 almost all the end user base that I am expecting will use the app. It
 may possible that
 I might face some issues with my requirements
 mentioned below but I have no practical idea about them.

CentOS 3 is ancient and I don't even think is supported by the
upstream vendor any longer. If you absolutely need that old version of
glibc then using CentOS 4.x (updated) will still give you glibc-2.3.4.


 As I
 mentioned before that I am new to linux and I always prefer to use
 VirtualBox, when ever I try any new distribution.

 In short these
 are my requirements and I would like to know whether CentOS-3 is the
 right choice for me or not?

 1. Use VirtualBox. XP Host 
 CentOS-3 guest.
 2. python 2.6.4
 3. wxPython 2.8.10.1 from
 wxWidgets repository
 4. libcairo 1.8.8
 5. pycairo 1.8.6
 6.
 couple of other python modules.

All these are newer. I'm not certain I understand the requirement for
glibc 2.3?   You mentioned a bootloader but that is usually quite
separate from glibc and other applications.
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Re: [CentOS] PXE Boot : Clonezilla

2010-04-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/13/2010 7:17 AM, premr...@digilink.in wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to set up Clonezilla Tools on my client machine via PXE Boot.
 How do I do it. I got information from the
 web, but after making changes in the dhcpd.conf file, the dhcpd fails to
 start. In the BIOS after enabling the PXE Boot,
 iam not able to see an Clonezilla menu options that i have placed in
 /pxelinux.cfg file. Iam using centos-5.3 on Intel Board

 Please provide me with some more information on the same.

One way to do this is to install drbl, which can PXE-boot clients into 
clonezilla or several other things:
http://drbl.sourceforge.net/one4all/

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-3, is this what I need?

2010-04-13 Thread Tru Huynh
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:16:22AM -0400, Kwan Lowe wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Prashant Saxena animator...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 
  The solution is to
  use as much as old libc as you can to compile the bootloader. It seems
  CentOS-3 is based on glibc 2.3, which is pretty old and if I compile
  and do other stuff of on CentOS-3, it'll do the job and hopefully covers
  almost all the end user base that I am expecting will use the app. It
  may possible that
  I might face some issues with my requirements
  mentioned below but I have no practical idea about them.
 
 CentOS 3 is ancient and I don't even think is supported by the
 upstream vendor any longer. If you absolutely need that old version of
 glibc then using CentOS 4.x (updated) will still give you glibc-2.3.4.

http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-fe8a0be91ee3e7dea812e8694491e1dde5b75e6d
Frequently Asked Questions about CentOS in general
19. What is the support ''end of life'' for each CentOS release?

For a few more month, CentOS-3 is still supported ;)

 
 
  As I
  mentioned before that I am new to linux and I always prefer to use
  VirtualBox, when ever I try any new distribution.
 
  In short these
  are my requirements and I would like to know whether CentOS-3 is the
  right choice for me or not?
 
  1. Use VirtualBox. XP Host 
  CentOS-3 guest.
XP is EOL very soon too.
  2. python 2.6.4
not on CentOS-3 (python 2.2) CentOS-4 (python 2.3) or CentOS-5 (python 2.4)
...
you can browse the centos mirrors for each version if you 
want ot know what is included in each version.

See also http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories

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[CentOS] ClamAV clamscan command using huge amount of RAM

2010-04-13 Thread Sean Carolan
We have a perl cgi script that accepts uploaded files and runs
clamscan on them.  While observing the system performance I noticed
that each clamscan process consumes up to 250MB of RAM.  Is this
normal for ClamAV?  This seems like an enormous amount of RAM, for
simply scanning one file for viruses.
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[CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Boris Epstein
Hello listmates,

I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?

Thanks.

Boris.
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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Ryan Manikowski
On 4/13/2010 1:05 PM, Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello listmates,

 I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
 ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?

 Thanks.

 Boris.
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Chassis - CSE-836A-R1200B Supermicro SC836 A-R1200B - Rack-mountable -
3U - SATA/SAS - hot-swap - power supply 1200 Watt

RAID Card - 3ware 9650SE-16ML-SGL 9650SE-16ML-SGL RAID 0/1/5/6/10/50
16CH SATA II PCIE 256MB ECC DDR2 - PCI Express x8 - Up to 300MBps - 4 x
SATA x4 Serial ATA/300 - Serial ATA

BBU Module for RAID card - 3ware BBU-MODULE-03


Pick the cpu(s) and motherboard to fit the chassis. Obviously go with
ECC ram and ONLY enterprise grade hard drives. To ensure compatibility
check with 3ware to see which drives they recommend. Areca RAID cards
will get you a little better performance but the module for the 9650SE
series of 3ware cards is included with the Centos kernel. Getting the
Areca driver going is a bit more work, but nothing that would be
considered a huge hurdle for a competent sysadmin. Also, if you're
looking for advice on Areca products call their Tekram contact in the
USA. Their other distributors have been less than stellar on answering
pre-sales questions.


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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Boris Epstein
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Ryan Manikowski r...@devision.us wrote:
 On 4/13/2010 1:05 PM, Boris Epstein wrote:

 Hello listmates,

 I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
 ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?

 Thanks.

 Boris.
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 Chassis - CSE-836A-R1200B Supermicro SC836 A-R1200B - Rack-mountable - 3U -
 SATA/SAS - hot-swap - power supply 1200 Watt

 RAID Card - 3ware 9650SE-16ML-SGL 9650SE-16ML-SGL RAID 0/1/5/6/10/50 16CH
 SATA II PCIE 256MB ECC DDR2 - PCI Express x8 - Up to 300MBps - 4 x SATA x4
 Serial ATA/300 - Serial ATA

 BBU Module for RAID card - 3ware BBU-MODULE-03


 Pick the cpu(s) and motherboard to fit the chassis. Obviously go with ECC
 ram and ONLY enterprise grade hard drives. To ensure compatibility check
 with 3ware to see which drives they recommend. Areca RAID cards will get you
 a little better performance but the module for the 9650SE series of 3ware
 cards is included with the Centos kernel. Getting the Areca driver going is
 a bit more work, but nothing that would be considered a huge hurdle for a
 competent sysadmin. Also, if you're looking for advice on Areca products
 call their Tekram contact in the USA. Their other distributors have been
 less than stellar on answering pre-sales questions.


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Thanks Ryan!

So, basically, I take it you've had positive experience with that
Supermicro box. It does look good and seems fairly inexpensive, too.

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread David Miller
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Ryan Manikowski r...@devision.us wrote:

  On 4/13/2010 1:05 PM, Boris Epstein wrote:

 Hello listmates,

 I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
 ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?

 Thanks.

 Boris.
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 Chassis - CSE-836A-R1200B Supermicro SC836 A-R1200B - Rack-mountable - 3U -
 SATA/SAS - hot-swap - power supply 1200 Watt

 RAID Card - 3ware 9650SE-16ML-SGL 9650SE-16ML-SGL RAID 0/1/5/6/10/50 16CH
 SATA II PCIE 256MB ECC DDR2 - PCI Express x8 - Up to 300MBps - 4 x SATA x4
 Serial ATA/300 - Serial ATA

 BBU Module for RAID card - 3ware BBU-MODULE-03


 Pick the cpu(s) and motherboard to fit the chassis. Obviously go with ECC
 ram and ONLY enterprise grade hard drives. To ensure compatibility check
 with 3ware to see which drives they recommend. Areca RAID cards will get you
 a little better performance but the module for the 9650SE series of 3ware
 cards is included with the Centos kernel. Getting the Areca driver going is
 a bit more work, but nothing that would be considered a huge hurdle for a
 competent sysadmin. Also, if you're looking for advice on Areca products
 call their Tekram contact in the USA. Their other distributors have been
 less than stellar on answering pre-sales questions.


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Ryan's hardware recommendations are good.  But I wouldn't run a RAID5 volume
that large, software or hardware.  It's just too risky as rebuilds will take
days and the chances of hitting a non recoverable read error would be near
100% on a volume that size.

Either run multiple smaller RAID5's and use LVM to manage the volumes which
the OS will use or choose a better RAID layout.  RAID6 or RAID10 are much
better choices these days.
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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Ryan Manikowski
On 4/13/2010 1:19 PM, David Miller wrote:

snip

 Ryan's hardware recommendations are good.  But I wouldn't run a RAID5
 volume that large, software or hardware.  It's just too risky as
 rebuilds will take days and the chances of hitting a non recoverable
 read error would be near 100% on a volume that size.

 Either run multiple smaller RAID5's and use LVM to manage the volumes
 which the OS will use or choose a better RAID layout.  RAID6 or RAID10
 are much better choices these days.
 --
 David 

With the config mentioned above it would give the flexibility to run
RAID10 with a resulting data store of just under 14TB (8x RAID1 stripe
using 2TB drives).

Choice of RAID implementation (specifically RAID5) could be an
impediment to performance as noted above. Always good to have input from
more than one source. At that level of storage looking into spending a
bit more for redundancy (drbd/pacemkaker/heartbeat) may be a worthwhile
investment as well.


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Re: [CentOS] ClamAV clamscan command using huge amount of RAM

2010-04-13 Thread Eero Volotinen
 We have a perl cgi script that accepts uploaded files and runs
 clamscan on them.  While observing the system performance I noticed
 that each clamscan process consumes up to 250MB of RAM.  Is this
 normal for ClamAV?  This seems like an enormous amount of RAM, for
 simply scanning one file for viruses.

I think this is normal since virus signature database takes lot of ram.

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Re: [CentOS] XFS-filesystem corrupted by defragmentation Was: Performance problems with XFS on Centos 5.4

2010-04-13 Thread Bernhard Gschaider

Just to close this thread and remove any doubt that it might have
raised about XFS: the problem was a PEBCAB[1] 
It was pointed out to me on the XFS-list that the device I used for
xfs_db was inconsistent with the info from xfs_info (I was blindly
copying the device from the output of df)

Footnotes: 
[1]  PEBCAB: Problem exists between chair and keyboard


 On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:54:53 +0200
 BG == Bernhard Gschaider bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at wrote:

BG Before I'd try to defragment my whole filesystem (see attached
BG mail for whole story) I figured Let's try it on some file.

BG So I did

 xfs_bmap /raid/Temp/someDiskimage.iso
BG [output shows 101 extents and 1 hole]

BG Then I defragmented the file
 xfs_fsr /raid/Temp/someDiskimage.iso
BG extents before:101 after:3 DONE

 xfs_bmap /raid/Temp/someDiskimage.iso
BG [output shows 3 extents and 1 hole]

BG and now comes the bummer: i wanted to check the fragmentation
BG of the whole filesystem (just for checking):

 xfs_db -r /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol04
BG xfs_db: unexpected XFS SB magic number 0x xfs_db: read
BG failed: Invalid argument xfs_db: data size check failed
BG cache_node_purge: refcount was 1, not zero (node=0x2a25c20)
BG xfs_db: cannot read root inode (22)

BG THAT output was definitly not there when I did this the last
BG time and therefor the new fragmentation does not make me happy
BG either

xfs_db frag
BG actual 0, ideal 0, fragmentation factor 0.00%

BG The file-system is still mounted and working and I don't dare
BG to do anything about it (am in a mild state of panic) because
BG I think it might not come back if I do.

BG Any suggestions most welcome (am googling myself before I do
BG anything about it).

BG I swear to god: I did not do anything else with the
BG xfs_*-commands than the stuff mentioned above

BG Bernhard

BG From: Bernhard Gschaider bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at Subject:
BG Re: [CentOS] Performance problems with XFS on Centos 5.4 To:
BG CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010
BG 18:22:24 +0200 Organization: ICE Stroemungsforschung Reply-To:
BG CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org


 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:59:02 -0400
 RW == Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote:

RW On Apr 9, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Bernhard Gschaider
RW bgschaid_li...@ice-
sf.at wrote:

 Hi!
 
 During the last weeks I experienced some performance problems
 with a large file-system on XFS basis. Sometimes for instance
 ls is painfully. Immidiatly afterwards ls on the same
 directory is immidiate. I used strace on this ls and found
 that during the first ls the lstat-calls need approx 0.02s
 each while during the second ls the are two orders of
 magnitude faster.
 
 Googling around I stumbled upon some messages similar like
 this
 
 http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/linux-...@oss.sgi.com/1355060.html
 
 which have in common a) they're from around 2006 b) they
 suggest to increase a mount-option ihashsize. This mount
 option is listed as deprecated in the current kernel-doc
 
 So my question: does anyone have experience with that kind of
 performance problem? Do you think it is a XFS problem or are
 there some other tuning parameters in the kernel that could be
 modified for instance via /proc?
 
 The reason why I'm asking here is that it is a production
 file-system so I would be very unpopular if I experiment too
 much (a couple of reboots is OK ;) )
 
 Bernhard
 
 PS: the situation got worse during the last weeks when the
 file-system increased in size, so the option that some kind of
 buffer now is too small and I'm experiencing some kind of
 thrashing seems very likely to me

RW Are you defragging the file system regularly?

BG Uups. Never occured to me (Fragmentation is s Windoze)
BG Had a look:

xfs_db frag
BG actual 6349355, ideal 4865683, fragmentation factor 23.37%

BG This seems significant.

RW How much memory do you have in the system and how big is the
RW file system?

BG Memory on the system is 4Gig (2 DualCore Xenons). The
BG filesystem is 3.5 TB of which 740 Gig are used. Which is the
BG maximum amount used during the one year that the filesystem is
BG being used (that is why the high fragmentation amazes me)

RW What are the XFS parameters for the file system?

BG Is this sufficent?

BG % xfs_info /raid meta-data=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol05 isize=256
BG agcount=32, agsize=29434880 blks = sectsz=512 attr=0 data =
BG bsize=4096 blocks=941916160, imaxpct=25 = sunit=0 swidth=0
BG blks, unwritten=1 naming =version 2 bsize=4096 log =internal
BG bsize=4096 blocks=32768, version=1 = sectsz=512 sunit=0 blks,
BG lazy-count=0 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, 

Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?

This comes up often:)
Things to keep in mind when using large discs if you suffer a failure,
while rebuilding in a degraded state it's not impossible or unlikely to
drop another disc loosing it all.

Rebuild times especially on busy arrays with large discs take lots of
time...
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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Boris Epstein
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Joseph L. Casale
jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?

 This comes up often:)
 Things to keep in mind when using large discs if you suffer a failure,
 while rebuilding in a degraded state it's not impossible or unlikely to
 drop another disc loosing it all.

 Rebuild times especially on busy arrays with large discs take lots of
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Thanks Joseph!

In your opinion, if we are talking about 15 2-TB disks what does lots
of time translate to?

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread nate
Joseph L. Casale wrote:

 Rebuild times especially on busy arrays with large discs take lots of
 time...

Unless you have a good storage system..

a blog entry I wrote last year:
http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/24/81000-raid-arrays/

Another one where I ripped into Equallogic's claims:
http://www.techopsguys.com/2010/03/26/enterprise-equallogic/

Just checked my array again, nearly 200,000 RAID arrays on it,
makes for a massively parallel many:many RAID rebuild for fast
recovery times with *no* service impact.

Course this stuff may be out of the OP's budget, but just keep in
mind that there are such systems on the market.

IBM XIV is another such system, though it's scalability is too
limited to be useful IMO (~180 drives max).

You'd have to pull my toenails out with a rusty pair of pliers
before I go back to crap storage.

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Re: [CentOS] ClamAV clamscan command using huge amount of RAM

2010-04-13 Thread Scott Silva
on 4-13-2010 9:56 AM Sean Carolan spake the following:
 We have a perl cgi script that accepts uploaded files and runs
 clamscan on them.  While observing the system performance I noticed
 that each clamscan process consumes up to 250MB of RAM.  Is this
 normal for ClamAV?  This seems like an enormous amount of RAM, for
 simply scanning one file for viruses.
If you do this quite often, you might be better running the clamd daemon and
then using clamdscan instead... One copy of sigs is loaded, and it stays
fairly constant

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/4/13 Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com:
 Hello listmates,

 I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
 ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?

how about hitachi SMS 100 ? it is about that size and cost effective
iscsi solution?

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread John R Pierce
Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Joseph L. Casale
 jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
   
 I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
 ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?
   
 This comes up often:)
 Things to keep in mind when using large discs if you suffer a failure,
 while rebuilding in a degraded state it's not impossible or unlikely to
 drop another disc loosing it all.

 Rebuild times especially on busy arrays with large discs take lots of
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 Thanks Joseph!

 In your opinion, if we are talking about 15 2-TB disks what does lots
 of time translate to?
   


well, IF your controller totally screams and can rebuild the drives at 
wire speeds with full overlap, you'll be reading 7 * 2TB of data at 
around 100MB/sec average and writing the XOR of that to the 8th drive in 
a 8 spindle raid5 (14tb total).   just reading one drive at wirespeed is 
2000,000MB / 100MB == 20,000 seconds, or about 5.5 hours, so thats about 
the shortest it possibly could be done.

if you have any access activity during this rebuild, you can figure on 
nearly doubling that before you even get warm.   if the controller can't 
actually move 800MB/sec internally (believe me, that ain't easy), then 
you can double or quadruple it a few more times.   This 5.5 hours could 
easily stretch to a week.


ANY previously unnoticed bad sector on those other 7 drives renders the 
whole pile bad, so doing weekly raid sweeps is probably a good thing, 
except THOSE will take some multiple of 5.5 hours when run in the 
background.


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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread nate
John R Pierce wrote:

 well, IF your controller totally screams and can rebuild the drives at
 wire speeds with full overlap, you'll be reading 7 * 2TB of data at
 around 100MB/sec average and writing the XOR of that to the 8th drive in
 a 8 spindle raid5 (14tb total).   just reading one drive at wirespeed is
 2000,000MB / 100MB == 20,000 seconds, or about 5.5 hours, so thats about
 the shortest it possibly could be done.

More likely your looking at 24+ hours, because really no disk system
is going to read your SATA disks at 100MB/second. If your really lucky
perhaps you can get 10MB/second.

With the fastest RAID controllers in the industry my own storage
array(which does heavy amounts of random I/O) averages about
2.2MB/second for a SATA disk, with peaks at around 4MB/second.

Our previous storage array averaged about 4-6 hours to rebuild
a RAID 5 12+1 array with 146GB 10k RPM disks, on an array that was
in excess of 90% idle. Rebuilding a 400GB SATA-I array often
took upwards of 48 hours.

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Don Krause

On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:57 AM, nate wrote:

 John R Pierce wrote:
 
 well, IF your controller totally screams and can rebuild the drives at
 wire speeds with full overlap, you'll be reading 7 * 2TB of data at
 around 100MB/sec average and writing the XOR of that to the 8th drive in
 a 8 spindle raid5 (14tb total).   just reading one drive at wirespeed is
 2000,000MB / 100MB == 20,000 seconds, or about 5.5 hours, so thats about
 the shortest it possibly could be done.
 
 More likely your looking at 24+ hours, because really no disk system
 is going to read your SATA disks at 100MB/second. If your really lucky
 perhaps you can get 10MB/second.
 
 With the fastest RAID controllers in the industry my own storage
 array(which does heavy amounts of random I/O) averages about
 2.2MB/second for a SATA disk, with peaks at around 4MB/second.
 
 Our previous storage array averaged about 4-6 hours to rebuild
 a RAID 5 12+1 array with 146GB 10k RPM disks, on an array that was
 in excess of 90% idle. Rebuilding a 400GB SATA-I array often
 took upwards of 48 hours.
 
 nate
 
 


For a real life example, we have a 3 year old 12x 1TB SATA box using an 
Adaptec RAID controller, doing RAID 6 that takes about 3 days to rebuild the 
array each time a drive fails. Which, to date, has happened 10 times... 
(Fortunately, this is only a BackupPC box.)

FWIW, we've not experienced a second drive failure during the rebuild process, 
yet. But we have had drives fail within a few weeks of each other, so it's 
probably going to happen one of these days..

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Drew Weaver
Those drives are likely fading out of the array because they aren't meant to be 
in arrays in the first place, Adaptec has told us that if you use consumer 
drives with their cards you are operating at your own risk.

-Drew


-Original Message-
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Don Krause
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:20 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations


On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:57 AM, nate wrote:

 John R Pierce wrote:
 
 well, IF your controller totally screams and can rebuild the drives at
 wire speeds with full overlap, you'll be reading 7 * 2TB of data at
 around 100MB/sec average and writing the XOR of that to the 8th drive in
 a 8 spindle raid5 (14tb total).   just reading one drive at wirespeed is
 2000,000MB / 100MB == 20,000 seconds, or about 5.5 hours, so thats about
 the shortest it possibly could be done.
 
 More likely your looking at 24+ hours, because really no disk system
 is going to read your SATA disks at 100MB/second. If your really lucky
 perhaps you can get 10MB/second.
 
 With the fastest RAID controllers in the industry my own storage
 array(which does heavy amounts of random I/O) averages about
 2.2MB/second for a SATA disk, with peaks at around 4MB/second.
 
 Our previous storage array averaged about 4-6 hours to rebuild
 a RAID 5 12+1 array with 146GB 10k RPM disks, on an array that was
 in excess of 90% idle. Rebuilding a 400GB SATA-I array often
 took upwards of 48 hours.
 
 nate
 
 


For a real life example, we have a 3 year old 12x 1TB SATA box using an 
Adaptec RAID controller, doing RAID 6 that takes about 3 days to rebuild the 
array each time a drive fails. Which, to date, has happened 10 times... 
(Fortunately, this is only a BackupPC box.)

FWIW, we've not experienced a second drive failure during the rebuild process, 
yet. But we have had drives fail within a few weeks of each other, so it's 
probably going to happen one of these days..

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread James A. Peltier
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Boris Epstein wrote:

 Hello listmates,

 I would like to build a 12-15 TB RAID 5 data server to run under
 ContOS. Any recommendations as far as hardware, configuration, etc?

 Thanks.

 Boris.

Smaller volumes is best, but really it depends on your I/O type as well. 
I have 15TB volumes loaded with medical imaging data that happily run and 
fsck just fine.  We've had a couple of disk failures and the MD 3000 
and MD1000 units handled this just fine taking around 26 hours to sync 1TB 
drives.  The file system here is XFS

On the other hand, I have natural language data sets which are millions of 
small files residing on a 4.5TB EXT4 file system.  This file system has 
had a problem and to this day I still cannot perform a file system check 
to correct the errors because the e4fsck program chews up more than 42GB 
of memory and then dies.  For details check out.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570639

What I'm trying to say is, understand your usage patterns.  Large 
streaming files is far less intensive on the controller then millions of 
small files.

Understand  your hardware and what it is capable of in each configuration. 
RAID-0 vs 5 vs 6 vs 10.  It is incredibly important.

Understand your file system.  Figure out what file system works best for 
your workload, how it functions and how the underlying hardware needs to 
be configured to maximize throughput.

That is all for now. ;)


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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Seth Bardash
Just finished building a new server for inhouse use.   12.8TB

Needed a nfs and samba server which could store 10TB and be reliable.
Also wanted to replace out DHCP server and our internal DNS server.
So needed to run dnsmasq plus ntp for time serving.

This machine replace 3 older units.

We used a Supermicro 3U case with 15 sata shuttles and 2N+1 760 Watt PS.
On ebay for 300.00

Used a Supermicro H8DME-2 MB cause I had one sitting around.
If I was going to buy one it would have been a Tyan S2932G2NR-SI for 
reliability (we have sold a bunch of these and they always work)

Installed dual AMD 2382's and 16 GB DDR2-800 RECC plus 4 wire HSF's.

Went to the 3ware online store and purchased a 9550SXU-16ML with the 
breakout cables for 340.00  Yes, I know its PCI-X. It was inexpensive 
and it runs almost as fast as the 9650 series at twice the price.

Installed 15 pcs of the WD1001FALS disks. Very reliable and low cost 
even though they are desktop drives. Used these since we always have 3 
on the shelf as spares and WD turns a bad one around in about 5 days. We 
have installed over 200 of these drives in raid arrays and have had 2 
fail in the last 6 months.

BTW, Initializing took 8 hours not days. Set it up as a Raid 5 array 
with one hot spare and autorebuild. Have tested it with both Centos 5.4 
x86_64 and OpenSUSE 11.1 x86_64. Also installed an LSI SCSI card and a 
Sony AIT-5 Tape drive with Bacula for data backup and recovery. Again, 
all worked fine and the machine was able to do backups and keep a GigE 
connection saturated.

Using an in house piece of code called disktest we are seeing 268 MB / 
sec on writes and 347 MB / sec on reads using 32 GB test files, 131K 
buffer sizes and single threading.

If you would like to see a system that is almost identical, have a look 
at Coraid.com. They use a dual xeon and a BSD custom kernel.

Hope this config helps..

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Re: [CentOS] ClamAV clamscan command using huge amount of RAM

2010-04-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sean Carolan wrote on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:56:55 -0500:

 We have a perl cgi script that accepts uploaded files and runs
 clamscan on them.  While observing the system performance I noticed
 that each clamscan process consumes up to 250MB of RAM.  Is this
 normal for ClamAV?  This seems like an enormous amount of RAM, for
 simply scanning one file for viruses.

Change to clamd (use clamdscan). Yes, clamscan needs quite a bit of RAM.

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Don Krause
They weren't supposed to be consumer drives. The box was provided by the vendor 
of a disk-disk-tape backup system.

They are Western Digital Enterprise RE2-GP drives.

I wouldn't purchase them again, thanks for asking...

Not that this provides any real info to the OP, other than the time it takes to 
rebuild the array.

=Don=

On Apr 13, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:

 Those drives are likely fading out of the array because they aren't meant to 
 be in arrays in the first place, Adaptec has told us that if you use consumer 
 drives with their cards you are operating at your own risk.
 
 -Drew
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf 
 Of Don Krause
 Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:20 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations
 
 
 On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:57 AM, nate wrote:
 
 John R Pierce wrote:
 
 well, IF your controller totally screams and can rebuild the drives at
 wire speeds with full overlap, you'll be reading 7 * 2TB of data at
 around 100MB/sec average and writing the XOR of that to the 8th drive in
 a 8 spindle raid5 (14tb total).   just reading one drive at wirespeed is
 2000,000MB / 100MB == 20,000 seconds, or about 5.5 hours, so thats about
 the shortest it possibly could be done.
 
 More likely your looking at 24+ hours, because really no disk system
 is going to read your SATA disks at 100MB/second. If your really lucky
 perhaps you can get 10MB/second.
 
 With the fastest RAID controllers in the industry my own storage
 array(which does heavy amounts of random I/O) averages about
 2.2MB/second for a SATA disk, with peaks at around 4MB/second.
 
 Our previous storage array averaged about 4-6 hours to rebuild
 a RAID 5 12+1 array with 146GB 10k RPM disks, on an array that was
 in excess of 90% idle. Rebuilding a 400GB SATA-I array often
 took upwards of 48 hours.
 
 nate
 
 
 
 
 For a real life example, we have a 3 year old 12x 1TB SATA box using an 
 Adaptec RAID controller, doing RAID 6 that takes about 3 days to rebuild the 
 array each time a drive fails. Which, to date, has happened 10 times... 
 (Fortunately, this is only a BackupPC box.)
 
 FWIW, we've not experienced a second drive failure during the rebuild 
 process, yet. But we have had drives fail within a few weeks of each other, 
 so it's probably going to happen one of these days..
 
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 Waver of Deceased Chickens.
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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Drew Weaver drew.wea...@thenap.com wrote:
 Those drives are likely fading out of the array because they aren't meant
 to be in arrays in the first place, Adaptec has told us that if you use
 consumer drives with their cards you are operating at your own risk.


Every hard drive dies. It's just a matter of when.

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Unless you have a good storage system..

a blog entry I wrote last year:
http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/24/81000-raid-arrays/

Another one where I ripped into Equallogic's claims:
http://www.techopsguys.com/2010/03/26/enterprise-equallogic/

Lol, Nate...
The op was looking at spending a few grand, not a few million
you show off:)
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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Seth Bardash
On 4/13/2010 1:38 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 4/13/2010 2:29 PM, Seth Bardash wrote:
 Just finished building a new server for inhouse use.   12.8TB

 Needed a nfs and samba server which could store 10TB and be reliable.
 Also wanted to replace out DHCP server and our internal DNS server.
 So needed to run dnsmasq plus ntp for time serving.

 This machine replace 3 older units.

 I'm not sure I'd put those on the same box - at least not for most
 scenarios.  If the machine ever goes down and needs an fsck before
 coming up, your DNS and DHCP services are going to be down for a long
 time while it completes, killing the rest of your network. too.




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Point Taken and correct!! I always have 2 DNS / DHCP / NTP servers up. 
One running, one just a service xxx start away. Since we need an inhouse 
use web server for testing before we go live we use that machine as the 
standby.

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[CentOS] Cluster Suite Question

2010-04-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
A while back I posted a question in the Linux-Cluster list
and never got a reply. I am hoping maybe someone here has
any insight?

I have a service that I have changed the default from restart to relocate.
Now I need to add one more script resource to it, but this script resource
is not essential, and if it tanks, a restart will certainly be sufficient
so I assume I have to create another service so I can tune the Restart Policy
Extensions for it, whereas the Recovery Policy for the original remains as
Relocate.

I have looked all through the wiki and net, but I can't see how to group or tie
services together so they always follow each other around? These two services
can't be on distinct nodes, anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread nate
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
Unless you have a good storage system..

a blog entry I wrote last year:
http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/24/81000-raid-arrays/

Another one where I ripped into Equallogic's claims:
http://www.techopsguys.com/2010/03/26/enterprise-equallogic/

 Lol, Nate...
 The op was looking at spending a few grand, not a few million
 you show off:)

million? Nowhere close to that, you can get a 12-15TB system(raw)
in the ~$130-150k range (15k RPM). If you want SATA instead
say $80k.

Few million and you can get a world record breaker array with
more than a thousand drives(15k RPM) and loaded with all the
software they have.

The capabilities of the system is the same from the low end
to the high end the only difference is scale really.

nate




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Re: [CentOS] Next Newsletter release

2010-04-13 Thread Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann
On 13/04/2010 14:37, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I was under the impression that Tim was asking if this was a Linux
 newsletter, or CentOS, or StarWars, the newsletter, or?

 Quite.
 Have I missed 1002 other newsletters?

 [Hint: an URL would be useful.]

Oh, I am sorry. I am talking about the CentOS Newsletter [1]. Only the 
editors can see the current working version [2].

Cheers Didi

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/4/13 nate cen...@linuxpowered.net:
 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
Unless you have a good storage system..

a blog entry I wrote last year:
http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/24/81000-raid-arrays/

Another one where I ripped into Equallogic's claims:
http://www.techopsguys.com/2010/03/26/enterprise-equallogic/

 Lol, Nate...
 The op was looking at spending a few grand, not a few million
 you show off:)

 million? Nowhere close to that, you can get a 12-15TB system(raw)
 in the ~$130-150k range (15k RPM). If you want SATA instead
 say $80k.

err. you can get hitachi sms 100 with sata drives for about 9000e
including 3 year maintenance.

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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread nate
Eero Volotinen wrote:

 err. you can get hitachi sms 100 with sata drives for about 9000e
 including 3 year maintenance.

Yes, and you get what you pay for with that..

As I mentioned earlier myself I won't go back to crap storage
after seeing the light..

Even Hitachi AMS 2k series doesn't compare.

nate


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Re: [CentOS] 12-15 TB RAID storage recommendations

2010-04-13 Thread m . roth
 They weren't supposed to be consumer drives. The box was provided by the
 vendor of a disk-disk-tape backup system.

 They are Western Digital Enterprise RE2-GP drives.

 I wouldn't purchase them again, thanks for asking...
snip
Dunno 'bout them, but I *really* don't like Seagate Barracudas. Three
times now, in the last 15 years, they've shoved new models out that did
*not* meet q/c, and it took them a year or two to fix the problems.

 mark

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[CentOS] iTunes on CentOS??

2010-04-13 Thread ken
Anyone know how to download and play stuff from itunes.apple.com
(without having to use Windows or Mac)?

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Re: [CentOS] iTunes on CentOS??

2010-04-13 Thread ken
On 04/13/2010 05:08 PM ken wrote:
 Anyone know how to download and play stuff from itunes.apple.com
 (without having to use Windows or Mac)?
 

Apparently iTunes installs and runs on wine.  I'm gonna try that.  Stay
tuned (but not necessarily iTuned).

yuk yuk yuk
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[CentOS] Disappearing DNS entry

2010-04-13 Thread Hugh E Cruickshank
CentOS 4.8, BIND 9.2.4, DHCP 3.0.1

Hi All:

I have a rather perplexing problem where the DNS entry in BIND for
one of my network printers sporadically disappears from our zone
file (but not the reverse zone file). We have four Lexmark printers
connected locally over our internal LAN using static IP addresses.
We have 3 T640n printers and a T642n printer and it is only the
T642n printer that this is happening to.

I thought I had it licked when I discovered that both DDNS and mDNS
were enabled on this printer but not the others, however disabling
those has had no effect.

We do use DHCP for the bulk of our Windows workstations and DHCP
is configured to update the DNS server and this appears to work fine
(once I disabled all the Register this connection's address in DNS
options on the workstations).

I have found one suspicious entry in /var/log/messages:

Apr 12 17:34:14 fisds0 named[5210]: client 192.168.2.7#10242: updating
zone 'forsoft.com/IN': deleting an RR

This would seem to indicate that the printer itself has issued the
request to the DNS server but for the life of me I cannot see what
might be doing it.

Has anyone encountered something similar and can point me in the right
direction?

TIA

Regards, Hugh

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[CentOS] centos 5.3x64 iso

2010-04-13 Thread aurfalien
Hi all,

My 5.3 DVD is ruined and the 5.4 installer won't run on my box w/o  
errors (uts not the disk, something to do with the installer itself).

I usually just install 5.3 and then yum it to 5.4.

Does any one know were I can find a 5.3x64 iso file?

- aurf
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.3x64 iso

2010-04-13 Thread Ryan Manikowski
On 4/13/2010 6:12 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 My 5.3 DVD is ruined and the 5.4 installer won't run on my box w/o  
 errors (uts not the disk, something to do with the installer itself).

 I usually just install 5.3 and then yum it to 5.4.

 Does any one know were I can find a 5.3x64 iso file?

 - aurf
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.3x64 iso

2010-04-13 Thread aurfalien
 Does any one know were I can find a 5.3x64 iso file?

 http://vault.centos.org has all you need.


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Wow!

Yoda mang!

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Re: [CentOS] Disappearing DNS entry

2010-04-13 Thread Hugh E Cruickshank
From: Hugh E Cruickshank Sent: April 13, 2010 15:07
 
 I have found one suspicious entry in /var/log/messages:
 
 Apr 12 17:34:14 fisds0 named[5210]: client 192.168.2.7#10242: updating
 zone 'forsoft.com/IN': deleting an RR
 
 This would seem to indicate that the printer itself has issued the
 request to the DNS server but for the life of me I cannot see what
 might be doing it.

One additional piece of information... It appears that I had not set
the DNS server and NTP server correctly on all four printers and they
were running with a very old date (would you believe 1970?). I have
since ensured that all four printers now have the correct DNS server
IP address, the host name of our local NTP server, the correct time
zone and that they all now have the correct current date and time via
NTP.

I am not sure if this would have had anything to do with the DNS issue
but it was something that was obviously wrong and needed to be fixed.

Regards, Hugh

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Re: [CentOS] XFS-filesystem corrupted by defragmentation Was: Performance problems with XFS on Centos 5.4

2010-04-13 Thread Ross Walker
On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Bernhard Gschaider bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at 
  wrote:


 Just to close this thread and remove any doubt that it might have
 raised about XFS: the problem was a PEBCAB[1]
 It was pointed out to me on the XFS-list that the device I used for
 xfs_db was inconsistent with the info from xfs_info (I was blindly
 copying the device from the output of df)

 Footnotes:
 [1]  PEBCAB: Problem exists between chair and keyboard

Sorry I wasn't reading the list for a few days and when I saw the  
problem you had I was like holy sh!t, I'm glad it turned out to be a  
non-issue.

Did defragging help?

Can you give me the layout of your disks, chunk size, how many (I  
think you said it was raid5?) so I can verify the sunit and swidth  
values are correct?

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Disappearing DNS entry

2010-04-13 Thread Jim Perrin
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Hugh E Cruickshank h...@forsoft.com wrote:

 I have found one suspicious entry in /var/log/messages:

 Apr 12 17:34:14 fisds0 named[5210]: client 192.168.2.7#10242: updating
                zone 'forsoft.com/IN': deleting an RR

 This would seem to indicate that the printer itself has issued the
 request to the DNS server but for the life of me I cannot see what
 might be doing it.

This means a couple things. First, your zone is configured to allow
dynamic DNS updates, which can be okay, but usually you don't want
this for a zone containing fixed records.

Second, it means that client updates is allowed. This can be bad, and
generally when I set up dynamic DNS zones, I only allow updates from
the dhcp server (usually the same box, so it's restricted to localhost
doing the updating).

Essentially your printer is trying to update its record and removing
the old one, but not publishing the right one, either through
permissions or some other reason.

 Has anyone encountered something similar and can point me in the right
 direction?

How do you have your zones and/or dhcp server configured? Can you
sanitize them enough to post them?

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Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT: which hardware for CentOS file server (Samba, 2 To storage, 50 users)?

2010-04-13 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

its always strange to see that people want cheap servers.
Let me tell you it will NEVER pay off.

50 people will kill a low end thing, especially if
you want to do software based RAID, the throughput
that is required by that data coming in and out will
make you users VERY unhappy and then say CentOS is crap.

You need at least some XEON based motherboard, proper ECC
RAM and HARDWARE RAID, anything else will not work.

That said you can buy decent motherboards from the lower
end of INTEL server boards, put a decent CPU into it and
get one of the 4 channel Adaptec cards, splitting data 
and OS onto separate raid channels, they got 2 GB network
cards so you can split the throughput in half.

I know this works because the small school that I look 
after has that setup.


jobst








On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:53:55PM +0200, Niki Kovacs (cont...@kikinovak.net) 
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The language lab from the local university has contacted me. They'd like 
 to have a low-cost file server for storing all their language video 
 files. They have a mix of Windows, Mac OS X and even Linux clients, 
 roughly 50 machines. The files are quite big, and they calculated a 
 total amount of 2 To of storage.
 
 I'm not very proficient with hardware, meaning either I'm dealing with 
 remote servers in some datacenter, or otherwise I install CentOS 
 desktops on any hardware people throw at me.
 
 Since the aim is lowcost, would it be wrong to install that fileserver 
 on a no-name desktop PC with a 64bit processor and enough RAM, and then 
 simply put 2 x 2 To hard disks in it, either with a mirroring RAID (can 
 never remember which does what in 0, 1 and 5) or some rsync script 
 regularly copying over the first disk to the second? Or do you have 
 something more apt to suggest?
 
 Cheers from South France,
 
 Niki
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Re: [CentOS] Disappearing DNS entry

2010-04-13 Thread Hugh E Cruickshank
From: Jim Perrin Sent: April 13, 2010 17:01
 
 This means a couple things. First, your zone is configured to allow
 dynamic DNS updates, which can be okay, but usually you don't want
 this for a zone containing fixed records.

That was intentional on my part. We have a small network and I did not
see any compelling reason not to do it that way. I will look at
separating these out in the future.

 Second, it means that client updates is allowed. This can be bad, and
 generally when I set up dynamic DNS zones, I only allow updates from
 the dhcp server (usually the same box, so it's restricted to localhost
 doing the updating).

Again intentional but no longer required. In reviewing the config files
in response to your comments I see that had allowed update to the zone
file from the entire subnet while only key rndckey for the reverse
zone files. That would explain why only the zone file was affected and
not the reverse files. I have fixed that now and I think that should
resolve my problem.

 Essentially your printer is trying to update its record and removing
 the old one, but not publishing the right one, either through
 permissions or some other reason.

Sounds valid.

 How do you have your zones and/or dhcp server configured? Can you
 sanitize them enough to post them?

I will hold off for now as I believe the change that I have made to
named.conf will now avoid the problem. I still do not know why only
the one printer was affected but the change should avoid the problem.
Some day when I have some free time (yeah right!) I am try to figure
what the actual cause is.

Thanks very much for your comments, they are greatly appreciated.

Regards, Hugh

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