Re: [CentOS-es] pregunta de shell script

2010-07-08 Thread Alberto Rivera M.

On 07/07/2010 05:49 PM, samuel correa wrote:

Hola a todos.

Tengo un pregunta.

Lo que sucede es que estoy haciendo un sistema de clonación y 
restauración de imagenes basado en Clonezilla y quiero que ese sistema 
sea totalmente autónomo.


En un punto, el cliente que intenta restaurar su imagen ejecuta en un 
script un comando parecido a este donde establece una conexión ssh:


*ssh usua...@192.168.50.100 mailto:usua...@192.168.50.100*

pero en pantalla, me aparece lo siguiente:
*
The authenticity of host '192.168.30.100 (192.168.30.100)' can't be 
established.

RSA key fingerprint is a7:da:a2:13:e0:88:11:1f:1c:68:27:ba:93:55:b4:5f.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? *

quedando a la espera de que le ingresen por teclado un yes.

Mi pregunta es la siguiente:
Es posible que al ejecutar el script, el comando que intenta hacer la 
coneción ssh. tenga como parametro o algo asi ese yes para que pase 
derecho?


Gracias.


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Pero esto se ejecuta sólo una vez y la fingerprint queda almacenada en 
el .ssh/know_host ... por lo que la primera vez lo deberías hacer tu 
desde cada uno de los equipos y ya la segunda vez no lo haría 


En realidad soy nuevo en centos espero no equivocarme demasiado ... pero 
la cosa la menos en Debian es así y como ssh es un software para todas 
las distros entonces debería funcionar...


salu2 :)
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[CentOS-es] Duda sobre freenx

2010-07-08 Thread Pcontreras
saludos.

Es factible usar los paquetes de freenx de centos 5.5 en RHEL5.5?
de ser haci cuales son las dependencias qe usa.

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Re: [CentOS-es] pregunta de shell script

2010-07-08 Thread samuel correa
Hola Alberto.

Tienes toda la razón en lo que dices, pero resulta que el S.O. se carga por
PXE en la maquina cliente, entonces realmente todas las veces que se incia
con ese S.O para el cliente es como si se iniciara por primera vez, ya que
el inicia ese S.O y restaura una imagen previamente creada.


  -SAMUEL-



2010/7/7 Alberto Rivera M. rivera.albe...@gmail.com

  On 07/07/2010 05:49 PM, samuel correa wrote:

 Hola a todos.

 Tengo un pregunta.

 Lo que sucede es que estoy haciendo un sistema de clonación y restauración
 de imagenes basado en Clonezilla y quiero que ese sistema sea totalmente
 autónomo.

 En un punto, el cliente que intenta restaurar su imagen ejecuta en un
 script un comando parecido a este donde establece una conexión ssh:

 *ssh usua...@192.168.50.100*

 pero en pantalla, me aparece lo siguiente:
 *
 The authenticity of host '192.168.30.100 (192.168.30.100)' can't be
 established.
 RSA key fingerprint is a7:da:a2:13:e0:88:11:1f:1c:68:27:ba:93:55:b4:5f.
 Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? *

 quedando a la espera de que le ingresen por teclado un yes.

 Mi pregunta es la siguiente:
 Es posible que al ejecutar el script, el comando que intenta hacer la
 coneción ssh. tenga como parametro o algo asi ese yes para que pase
 derecho?

 Gracias.


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 Pero esto se ejecuta sólo una vez y la fingerprint queda almacenada en el
 .ssh/know_host ... por lo que la primera vez lo deberías hacer tu desde cada
 uno de los equipos y ya la segunda vez no lo haría 

 En realidad soy nuevo en centos espero no equivocarme demasiado ... pero la
 cosa la menos en Debian es así y como ssh es un software para todas las
 distros entonces debería funcionar...

 salu2 :)

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Re: [CentOS-es] Duda sobre freenx

2010-07-08 Thread carlos restrepo
Configura el repo de DAG o el de RPMFORGE en el servidor que tiene RED HAT,
luego simplemente yum install freenx


Saludos.


Carlos R!
El 7 de julio de 2010 17:35, Pcontreras pcontre...@gmail.com escribió:

 saludos.

 Es factible usar los paquetes de freenx de centos 5.5 en RHEL5.5?
 de ser haci cuales son las dependencias qe usa.

 gracias.

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[CentOS-es] hola listeros

2010-07-08 Thread Alberto Rivera M.
Estoy recién ingresando a esta lista porque utilizo mucho Debian y para 
desktops Ubuntu, no tengo mucha experiencia en el CentOs ... por lo que 
este es mi primer mensaje :) no sé si están llegando y no tengo ni una 
consulta por el momento, a menos que alguien tenga el script para 
instalar de forma correcta el ISPConfig sobre Centos 5.5.

Saludos :)
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Re: [CentOS-es] hola listeros

2010-07-08 Thread root
On 07/08/2010 12:23 PM, Alberto Rivera M. wrote:
 Estoy recién ingresando a esta lista porque utilizo mucho Debian y para
 desktops Ubuntu, no tengo mucha experiencia en el CentOs ... por lo que
 este es mi primer mensaje :) no sé si están llegando y no tengo ni una
 consulta por el momento, a menos que alguien tenga el script para
 instalar de forma correcta el ISPConfig sobre Centos 5.5.

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Podes verlo aca

http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-centos-5.5-x86_64-ispconfig-3


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Re: [CentOS-es] Duda sobre freenx

2010-07-08 Thread All DigitAll
*Me llama mucho la atención:
TRES errores ortográficos en una palabra de CUATRO letras

La palabra ASÍ se escribe sin H, con S, y con tilde el la Í*


-
*En la caja decia:
Requiere Windows XP o superior... 
Entonces instalé LINUX.*
-
[CentOS-es] Duda sobre freenx *Pcontreras* pcontrerax en gmail.com
centos-es%40centos.org?Subject=%5BCentOS-es%5D%20Duda%20sobre%20freenxIn-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik2WkxXsAZkW-ZyN7IuKZDh9RXQh0csEUTbTUbz%40mail.gmail.com%3E
*Mie Jul 7 18:35:36 EDT 2010*


saludos.


Es factible usar los paquetes de freenx de centos 5.5 en RHEL5.5?
de ser *haci* cuales son las dependencias qe usa.

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[CentOS-es] (sin asunto)

2010-07-08 Thread Teofilo copa
Hola amigos como puedo montar un lector de cd externo usb en modo de rescate?
ejecuto fdisk -l y no me aparece un ningun /dev/sdbx

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[CentOS-es] error rpm %post rpm scriptlet failed exit status 255

2010-07-08 Thread Teofilo copa
Hola amigos de la lista estoy tratando de recuperar un sistema con
redhat enterprise 4
pero cuando ejecuto rpm -Uvh --replacefiles --replacepkgs miarchivo.rpm
me sale este error :
 %post rpm scriptlet failed exit status 255

les adjunto una imagen:

http://yfrog.com/45dsc06112j

estoy en modo prueba de fallos

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[CentOS-es] montar un lector de cd externo usb en modo de rescate

2010-07-08 Thread Teofilo copa
Teofilo Copa Fernandez




El día 8 de julio de 2010 18:27, Teofilo copa teox...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola amigos como puedo montar un lector de cd externo usb en modo de rescate?
 ejecuto fdisk -l y no me aparece un ningun /dev/sdbx

 Teofilo Copa Fernandez
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Re: [CentOS-es] montar un lector de cd externo usb en modo de rescate

2010-07-08 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
2010/7/8 Teofilo copa teox...@gmail.com:
 Teofilo Copa Fernandez




 El día 8 de julio de 2010 18:27, Teofilo copa teox...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola amigos como puedo montar un lector de cd externo usb en modo de rescate?
 ejecuto fdisk -l y no me aparece un ningun /dev/sdbx

Has probado a arrancar el sistema de rescate con el dispositivo conectado?
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Re: [CentOS-es] error rpm %post rpm scriptlet failed exit status 255

2010-07-08 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Teofilo copa teox...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hola amigos de la lista estoy tratando de recuperar un sistema con
 redhat enterprise 4
 pero cuando ejecuto rpm -Uvh --replacefiles --replacepkgs miarchivo.rpm
 me sale este error :
  %post rpm scriptlet failed exit status 255

 les adjunto una imagen:

 http://yfrog.com/45dsc06112j

 estoy en modo prueba de fallos

Y el sistema de rescate ha detectado correctamente tu instalación, y
luego has hecho chroot /mnt/sysimage? Y otros comandos (como ls, cat)
funcionan?

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Re: [CentOS-es] error rpm %post rpm scriptlet failed exit status 255

2010-07-08 Thread Teofilo copa
hola eduardo gracias por tu respuesta.
Si cambie la raiz a /mnt/sysimage
estube investigando y me parece q es por el selinux estube revisando
en los foros.

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=1325
http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=64826

lo probare mañana cuando regrese

Teofilo Copa Fernandez




El día 8 de julio de 2010 19:03, Eduardo Grosclaude
eduardo.groscla...@gmail.com escribió:
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Teofilo copa teox...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hola amigos de la lista estoy tratando de recuperar un sistema con
 redhat enterprise 4
 pero cuando ejecuto rpm -Uvh --replacefiles --replacepkgs miarchivo.rpm
 me sale este error :
  %post rpm scriptlet failed exit status 255

 les adjunto una imagen:

 http://yfrog.com/45dsc06112j

 estoy en modo prueba de fallos

 Y el sistema de rescate ha detectado correctamente tu instalación, y
 luego has hecho chroot /mnt/sysimage? Y otros comandos (como ls, cat)
 funcionan?

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Re: [CentOS-es] hola listeros

2010-07-08 Thread Alberto Rivera M.
On 07/08/2010 02:04 PM, root wrote:
 On 07/08/2010 12:23 PM, Alberto Rivera M. wrote:
 Estoy recién ingresando a esta lista porque utilizo mucho Debian y para
 desktops Ubuntu, no tengo mucha experiencia en el CentOs ... por lo que
 este es mi primer mensaje :) no sé si están llegando y no tengo ni una
 consulta por el momento, a menos que alguien tenga el script para
 instalar de forma correcta el ISPConfig sobre Centos 5.5.

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Si es el mismo que utilice :) gracias por la respuesta pense que estaba 
sólo ...

saludos y gracias nuevamente
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Re: [CentOS-es] (sin asunto)

2010-07-08 Thread Edgar Vargas
Si haz conectado bien y linux lo ha reconocido, deberia aparecer con fdisk
-l, luego crear la carpeta donde montaras el dispo externo, y indicarle la
ruta, creo q era en consola algoa si, mount /dev/el q te aparece
/home/miparticionparamonstar, aqui hay mas info para leer
http://www.linuxparatodos.net/portal/staticpages/index.php?page=como-montdisco
receurda q es para todo dispositivo, asi q cualqier cosa conectada y
reconocida sevisualiza con el comando q psuiste, salu2
Edgar  Rodolfo:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Edgarr789
http://cybernautape.wordpress.com


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 Hola amigos como puedo montar un lector de cd externo usb en modo de
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 ejecuto fdisk -l y no me aparece un ningun /dev/sdbx

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[CentOS-es] Busqueda de archivos

2010-07-08 Thread Alberto Rivera M.
Buenas noches señores listeros tengo una pequeña duda 

Resulta que estoy haciendo una réplica de algunos directorios, algo así 
como un raid 1 entre dos máquinas pero necesito saber como afecta un 
grupo de aplicaciones en el sistema ya que no se puede copiar toda la 
estructura, por lo mismo he pensado hacer todas las modificaciones 
necesarias y luego hacer un find . -mtime -1  modificados.txt ... pero 
no sé si servirá para toodo el sistema ...


Alguna idea de como identificar esto 

salu2
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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
On 08/07/10 15:41, Christopher Chan wrote:
 No new boxes. Not possible for any other box to be assigned the same
 ip internally via dhcp and definitely not the same Internet ip.

Exactly.  DHCP server would check for a conflict before assigning an
address and is definitely not the source of the problem.

 Perhaps you care to explain why BOTH vlan interfaces stopped working?
 The odd chance that two other boxes each took one of the other ip
 address?

Did not know that both had stopped. Conflicting IP addresses was just a
suggestion.  May not be the problem at all.  With bonding, breaking one
might break both down at the MAC level ...

Hmmm ... which bond mode are you using?

 The box with the problem just so happens to be the only box using 
 bonding, 802.1q and a four port Qlogic Netxen NIC. I think the
 chances of there being a problem between these three more likely than
 some 'ghost' boxes getting assigned the same ip addresses when I am
 the only admin around.

If you are the only admin, then its not that likely.  Then again, I once
had a power spike reset a wireless router on my network without me
knowing.  Default settings were close by not quite right, and it took me
a couple of days to track down the problem :-(

If it was working, then suddenly stops, then something must have
changed.  I gather you have some configuration and change management
system in place?  Backups of conf files?

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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Christopher Chan

 Did not know that both had stopped. Conflicting IP addresses was just a
 suggestion.  May not be the problem at all.  With bonding, breaking one
 might break both down at the MAC level ...

 Hmmm ... which bond mode are you using?

Why mode 4 of course.


 The box with the problem just so happens to be the only box using
 bonding, 802.1q and a four port Qlogic Netxen NIC. I think the
 chances of there being a problem between these three more likely than
 some 'ghost' boxes getting assigned the same ip addresses when I am
 the only admin around.

 If you are the only admin, then its not that likely.  Then again, I once
 had a power spike reset a wireless router on my network without me
 knowing.  Default settings were close by not quite right, and it took me
 a couple of days to track down the problem :-(

Too bad there are no defaults that use the subnet assigned to the school 
or the 192.168.0.0/16 (no, not my idea - inherited)



 If it was working, then suddenly stops, then something must have
 changed.  I gather you have some configuration and change management
 system in place?  Backups of conf files?


Hahaha, that was the best part. It just stopped. And stayed that way too 
after a reboot, reboot of switches and only started working again when I 
ran tcpdump for some reason.

But another colleague did find this in the iLo report:

Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters 
Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 3)

Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters 
Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 4)

Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters 
Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 1)

Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:01 07/06/2010 12:00 1 Network Adapter 
Link Down (Slot 10, Port 2)

Time to ask the HP chap what this is all about.

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[CentOS] mount cannot find system /dev/root

2010-07-08 Thread sync
Hi, guys:

I attempt to compile a kernel on CentOS 5.3 i386 which is installed in the
Virtualbox machine,
and its kernel version is  2.6.18-128.el5 ,the new  kernel version is
2.6.34.1

All make procedure is running ok.
I can generate initrd image with no problem too.
But, when I try booting this kernel, I get Kernel panic error message like
these:

mount: could not find filesystem '/dev/root'
setuproot: moving /dev failed: No such file or directory
setuproot: error mounting /proc: No such file or directory
setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory
switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory
Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!


I don't know what is going on here!!
Thanks if somebody will be able to help me!
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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
On 07/08/2010 05:08 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
 Hmmm ... which bond mode are you using?
 
 Why mode 4 of course.

Ouch.  Never used that mode.

snip
mode=4 (802.3ad)
IEEE 802.3ad Dynamic link aggregation. Creates aggregation groups that
share the same speed and duplex settings. Utilizes all slaves in the
active aggregator according to the 802.3ad specification.

Pre-requisites:
1. Ethtool support in the base drivers for retrieving
the speed and duplex of each slave.
2. A switch that supports IEEE 802.3ad Dynamic link
aggregation.
Most switches will require some type of configuration
to enable 802.3ad mode.
/snip

So I gather the bonding on the CentOS box is cooperating with the
switches in some non-trivial fashion.

 Too bad there are no defaults that use the subnet assigned to the school 
 or the 192.168.0.0/16 (no, not my idea - inherited)

That is a big network.  Might make sense in a school though.  How many
nodes on it?  Any chance a ahem staff member plugged an unauthorised
piece of hardware in somewhere.

 If it was working, then suddenly stops, then something must have
 changed.  I gather you have some configuration and change management
 system in place?  Backups of conf files?
 
 Hahaha, that was the best part. It just stopped. And stayed that way too 
 after a reboot, reboot of switches and only started working again when I 
 ran tcpdump for some reason.

tcpdump is probably putting your interface into promiscuous mode which
is triggering something. Perhaps ARP packets.

I think something (perhaps obscure) has changed, you may just not be
aware of it.  Comparing your event timeline against your configuration
change management systems may help.

 But another colleague did find this in the iLo report:

You're the only admin but you have a colleague with access to an iLo
report?  That puts a big question mark over a previous assertion :-)

 Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters 
 Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 3)
 
 Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters 
 Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 4)
 
 Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters 
 Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 1)
 
 Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:01 07/06/2010 12:00 1 Network Adapter 
 Link Down (Slot 10, Port 2)
 
 Time to ask the HP chap what this is all about.

Looks like the bonding failover process is doing what it should.

A bit more info on you setup might help.

1. What is the purpose of the box with the fat network?
2. are all 4 interfaces being used?
3. are they plugged into the same switch?
4. you've got at least 2 networks, plus 2 vlans, plus a public internet
connection to this box?

K
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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, July 08, 2010 05:09 PM, Kahlil Hodgson wrote:
 On 07/08/2010 05:08 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
 Hmmm ... which bond mode are you using?

 Why mode 4 of course.

 Ouch.  Never used that mode.

Huh? Like why? It's the recommended mode unless the switch does not 
suppoprt it or the boards don't.


 snip
 mode=4 (802.3ad)
 IEEE 802.3ad Dynamic link aggregation. Creates aggregation groups that
 share the same speed and duplex settings. Utilizes all slaves in the
 active aggregator according to the 802.3ad specification.

   Pre-requisites:
   1. Ethtool support in the base drivers for retrieving
   the speed and duplex of each slave.
   2. A switch that supports IEEE 802.3ad Dynamic link
   aggregation.
   Most switches will require some type of configuration
   to enable 802.3ad mode.
 /snip

 So I gather the bonding on the CentOS box is cooperating with the
 switches in some non-trivial fashion.

And it works just fine thank you very much.



 Too bad there are no defaults that use the subnet assigned to the school
 or the 192.168.0.0/16 (no, not my idea - inherited)

 That is a big network.  Might make sense in a school though.  How many
 nodes on it?  Any chance aahem  staff member plugged an unauthorised
 piece of hardware in somewhere.

Nada, zip, zilch. School is closed and the issue is now very reliably 
demonstrated that running tcpdump makes it behave and the network is 
gone the moment you stop tcpdump. So there are no external factors to 
this problem. Been on the phone with HP. I will be upgrading the hp 
packages to the latest version to see if that fixes things.


 If it was working, then suddenly stops, then something must have
 changed.  I gather you have some configuration and change management
 system in place?  Backups of conf files?

 Hahaha, that was the best part. It just stopped. And stayed that way too
 after a reboot, reboot of switches and only started working again when I
 ran tcpdump for some reason.

 tcpdump is probably putting your interface into promiscuous mode which
 is triggering something. Perhaps ARP packets.

Yeah, it is triggering something alright.



 I think something (perhaps obscure) has changed, you may just not be
 aware of it.  Comparing your event timeline against your configuration
 change management systems may help.

No changes have been made to the box whether by me or by my colleague at 
the HQ. I checked the logs too. No reboot prior to the manifestation of 
the problem. Stumped really here...



 But another colleague did find this in the iLo report:

 You're the only admin but you have a colleague with access to an iLo
 report?  That puts a big question mark over a previous assertion :-)

He is not physically on site so he cannot add anything. Nor have the 
logs shown anything done by him.


 Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters
 Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 3)

 Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters
 Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 4)

 Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:35 07/06/2010 12:00 2 Network Adapters
 Redundancy Reduced (Slot 10, Port 1)

 Repaired Network 07/06/2010 12:01 07/06/2010 12:00 1 Network Adapter
 Link Down (Slot 10, Port 2)

 Time to ask the HP chap what this is all about.

 Looks like the bonding failover process is doing what it should.

 A bit more info on you setup might help.

 1. What is the purpose of the box with the fat network?

Besides being able to saturate the network, what other reason can there be?


 2. are all 4 interfaces being used?

Oh yes!


 3. are they plugged into the same switch?

Yup.


 4. you've got at least 2 networks, plus 2 vlans, plus a public internet
 connection to this box?


The vlans use bond0 as their phy interface. One vlan is internal and the 
other is the Internet subnet.
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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Thursday, July 08, 2010 05:09 PM, Kahlil Hodgson wrote:
 On 07/08/2010 05:08 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
 Hmmm ... which bond mode are you using?
 Why mode 4 of course.
 Ouch.  Never used that mode.
 
 Huh? Like why? It's the recommended mode unless the switch does not 
 suppoprt it or the boards don't.
 

Oh sorry, got a bit grouchy there. I don't like overtime and was getting 
tired too. Did not read your mail properly.
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Re: [CentOS] how to properly change the timezone

2010-07-08 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 21:32:45 Phil Manuel wrote:
 /usr/bin/system-config-time
 
 (from the system-config-date RPM package)
 
 It will work in text mode.
 
 (Essentially /etc/sysconfig/clock is the config file that also needs
 updating)

Is /etc/sysconfig/clock really essential?  I just have /etc/localtime pointing 
to the right timezone and never had any problem.  I don't even have 
/etc/sysconfig/clock on my servers.

I was about to install  the system-config-date (package that provides system-
config-time) in order to see if indeed it creates /etc/sysconfig/clock but yum 
tells me I need 48 more packages to satisfy dependencies. I said no 
obviously

Best regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
HiChristopher,

On 08/07/10 10:25, Christopher Chan wrote:
 Why mode 4 of course.
 Huh? Like why? It's the recommended mode unless the switch does not
 suppoprt it or the boards don't.
I never realised this is the recommended mode. Do you have pointers 
where it is recommended so that I can read on why?

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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
 Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Thursday, July 08, 2010 05:09 PM, Kahlil Hodgson wrote:
 On 07/08/2010 05:08 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
 Hmmm ... which bond mode are you using?
 Why mode 4 of course.
 Ouch.  Never used that mode.
 Huh? Like why? It's the recommended mode unless the switch does not 
 suppoprt it or the boards don't.

 
 Oh sorry, got a bit grouchy there. I don't like overtime and was getting 
 tired too. Did not read your mail properly.


I think some bridge or vlan scenarios require promiscuous mode (and the 
corresponding disabling of hardware acceleration).  Maybe the real issue is 
that 
  something accidentally disabled it and you now only work when tcpdump 
re-enables it.  I'm not sure how this is supposed to be managed atomically when 
multiple programs may manipulate it and it needs to be propagated across 
multiple bonded nics, but maybe something went wrong there.  At least some 
things log the change so maybe you can get a hint about when it was turned on 
and off.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats
I am not using Samba 3.x. I am using Samba3x-3.3.8.  As I understand it,
RHEL provided this branch so that Windows 7 could join a Samba domain.

That aside,  It does not seems to me that the error message indicates that
it cannot resolve where the PDC is.  What method is Windows 7 trying to use
that is differnent for Windows XP to find the PDC?


 Samba 3.x cannot provide AD and thus the error about AD  DNS name does
 not exist is not meaningful

 You probably want to use Sernet Samba packages at this point if you want
 to use Windows 7 clients but see this page...

 http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Windows7

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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 07:51 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 I think some bridge or vlan scenarios require promiscuous mode (and the 
 corresponding disabling of hardware acceleration).  Maybe the real issue is 
 that 
   something accidentally disabled it and you now only work when tcpdump 
 re-enables it.  I'm not sure how this is supposed to be managed atomically 
 when 
 multiple programs may manipulate it and it needs to be propagated across 
 multiple bonded nics, but maybe something went wrong there.  At least some 
 things log the change so maybe you can get a hint about when it was turned on 
 and off.
---

Check out /proc/net/bonding/bond/YOUR_BOND.  Make sure your slave IDs
are the same as in aggregator ID.  If not it will cause the problem your
having.  Bad NIC hardware also it's failing over for a reason as the log
showed.

John

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Re: [CentOS] mount cannot find system /dev/root

2010-07-08 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, sync jian...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, guys:

 I attempt to compile a kernel on CentOS 5.3 i386 which is installed in the
 Virtualbox machine,
 and its kernel version is  2.6.18-128.el5 ,the new  kernel version is
 2.6.34.1

 All make procedure is running ok.
 I can generate initrd image with no problem too.
 But, when I try booting this kernel, I get Kernel panic error message like
 these:

 mount: could not find filesystem '/dev/root'

Custom kernels are not supported by CentOS.

However... that question was answered by a forum user some time ago.
Please see my blog for more details:

http://blog.toracat.org/2010/03/want-a-custom-kernel-on-centos-noo-really/

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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Hakan Koseoglu wrote:
 HiChristopher,
 
 On 08/07/10 10:25, Christopher Chan wrote:
 Why mode 4 of course.
 Huh? Like why? It's the recommended mode unless the switch does not
 suppoprt it or the boards don't.
 I never realised this is the recommended mode. Do you have pointers 
 where it is recommended so that I can read on why?
 

Maybe 'the recommended' is a bit too much. But here is a read.

http://useopensource.blogspot.com/2010/02/linux-nic-teaming-recommendations.html


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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
JohnS wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 07:51 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 I think some bridge or vlan scenarios require promiscuous mode (and the 
 corresponding disabling of hardware acceleration).  Maybe the real issue is 
 that 
   something accidentally disabled it and you now only work when tcpdump 
 re-enables it.  I'm not sure how this is supposed to be managed atomically 
 when 
 multiple programs may manipulate it and it needs to be propagated across 
 multiple bonded nics, but maybe something went wrong there.  At least some 
 things log the change so maybe you can get a hint about when it was turned 
 on 
 and off.
 ---
 
 Check out /proc/net/bonding/bond/YOUR_BOND.  Make sure your slave IDs
 are the same as in aggregator ID.  If not it will cause the problem your
 having.  Bad NIC hardware also it's failing over for a reason as the log
 showed.
 

Okay, I'll take a look tomorrow when I get in to work.
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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Les Mikesell wrote:
 Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
 Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Thursday, July 08, 2010 05:09 PM, Kahlil Hodgson wrote:
 On 07/08/2010 05:08 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
 Hmmm ... which bond mode are you using?
 Why mode 4 of course.
 Ouch.  Never used that mode.
 Huh? Like why? It's the recommended mode unless the switch does not 
 suppoprt it or the boards don't.

 Oh sorry, got a bit grouchy there. I don't like overtime and was getting 
 tired too. Did not read your mail properly.

 
 I think some bridge or vlan scenarios require promiscuous mode (and the 
 corresponding disabling of hardware acceleration).  Maybe the real issue is 
 that 
   something accidentally disabled it and you now only work when tcpdump 
 re-enables it.  I'm not sure how this is supposed to be managed atomically 
 when 
 multiple programs may manipulate it and it needs to be propagated across 
 multiple bonded nics, but maybe something went wrong there.  At least some 
 things log the change so maybe you can get a hint about when it was turned on 
 and off.
 

/me wonders if the loading of the bridge and another related module has 
anything to do with this.

I'll prepare a list of targets for rmmod.
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 08:13 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 I am not using Samba 3.x. I am using Samba3x-3.3.8.  As I understand
 it, RHEL provided this branch so that Windows 7 could join a Samba
 domain.
  
 That aside,  It does not seems to me that the error message indicates
 that it cannot resolve where the PDC is.  What method is Windows 7
 trying to use that is differnent for Windows XP to find the PDC?

I think as long as persist in chasing pointless ends, you will continue
to fail.

DNS  AD are not at issue here. Samba 3 cannot provide AD services.

If resolution is a problem, it may be that you don't have nmb running on
your Samba server and you probably want it to be a wins server if it is
a Domain Controller.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats


 I think as long as persist in chasing pointless ends, you will continue
 to fail.

 DNS  AD are not at issue here. Samba 3 cannot provide AD services.

 If resolution is a problem, it may be that you don't have nmb running on
 your Samba server and you probably want it to be a wins server if it is
 a Domain Controller.

 Craig


Craig,

Thanks for you interest in my problem.  I don't think I am  trying to get
Samba to do something that it was not intended to do.  All I am saying is
that using the same config on Samba 3.0 as a PDC with windows XP machines
behaves different than Samba3x with Windows 7 and windows XP machines.

I just now tried to join an XP machine to the network and got a similar
error.  Maybe this is a Samba3x.3.3.8 issue?

I don't expect Samba to provide AD services.  I simply want single
sign-on on my network.

Has anyone been able to get Samba3x.3.3.8 to work as a PDC?
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[CentOS] slow down dd - how?

2010-07-08 Thread Jozsi Avadkan
How can I slow down dd?

I don't want to slow down the pc, when generating a big file [~40
GByte].

Does ionice work properly?

Thank you for any help! :\

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 10:34 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 
 I think as long as persist in chasing pointless ends, you will
 continue
 to fail.
 
 DNS  AD are not at issue here. Samba 3 cannot provide AD
 services.
 
 If resolution is a problem, it may be that you don't have nmb
 running on
 your Samba server and you probably want it to be a wins server
 if it is
 a Domain Controller.
 
 
 Craig
 
  
 Craig,
  
 Thanks for you interest in my problem.  I don't think I am  trying to
 get Samba to do something that it was not intended to do.  All I am
 saying is that using the same config on Samba 3.0 as a PDC with
 windows XP machines behaves different than Samba3x with Windows 7 and
 windows XP machines.  
  
 I just now tried to join an XP machine to the network and got a
 similar error.  Maybe this is a Samba3x.3.3.8 issue?
  
 I don't expect Samba to provide AD services.  I simply want single
 sign-on on my network.
  
 Has anyone been able to get Samba3x.3.3.8 to work as a PDC?

I think you are being vague (similar error).

What is the exact error?

What is the output of 'testparm -sv' ?

Craig


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Re: [CentOS] slow down dd - how?

2010-07-08 Thread Blake Hudson
Jozsi Avadkan wrote:
 How can I slow down dd?

 I don't want to slow down the pc, when generating a big file [~40
 GByte].

 Does ionice work properly?
   
Yes, with CentOS 5.5 and the default scheduler.
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Re: [CentOS] slow down dd - how?

2010-07-08 Thread Dominik Zyla
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 05:51:12PM +0200, Jozsi Avadkan wrote:
 Does ionice work properly?

It works fine.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats

 I think you are being vague (similar error).

 What is the exact error?

 What is the output of 'testparm -sv' ?

 Craig

Sorry for being to vague.

Here is the XP Pro error I get when I try to join the domain.

A domian controller for the domain admin could not be contacted.

Esure that the domain name is typed correctly.

If the name is correct, click on the Details for troubleshooting
information.

Details:

Note: This information is intended for a network administrator.  If you are
not your network's administrator, notify the administrator that you received
this information, which has been recorded in the file
C:\WINDOWS\debug\dcdiag.txt.
The domain name admin might be a NetBIOS domain name.  If this is the case,
verify that the domain name is properly registered with WINS.
If you are certain that the name is not a NetBIOS domain name, then the
following information can help you troubleshoot your DNS configuration.
An error occurred when DNS was queried for the service location (SRV)
resource record used to locate a domain controller for domain admin.
The error was: No records found for given DNS query.
(error code 0x251D DNS_INFO_NO_RECORDS)
The query was for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.admin
For more information, click Help.

Here is the testparm -sv you requested.

For a short explaination of the IP's listed.  We have two domains.
One served by 192.168.6.1 and one by 192.168.5.1.  I am currantly upgrading
the 192.168.6. network to Windows 7. Or atleast trying.  192.168.4.1 is our
gatway and the two servers listed above act as file servers and routers for
their domains.  I hope that makes sence.

Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
Processing section [homes]
Processing section [netlogon]
WARNING: The share modes option is deprecated
Processing section [admin]
Processing section [staff]
Processing section [ElemTeachers]
Processing section [SecTeachers]
Processing section [it]
Processing section [office]
Processing section [finance]
Processing section [backup]
Processing section [www]
Processing section [scribeshare]
Processing section [sosub]
Loaded services file OK.
Server role: ROLE_DOMAIN_PDC
[global]
dos charset = CP850
unix charset = UTF-8
display charset = LOCALE
workgroup = ADMIN
realm =
netbios name = HERITAGE3
netbios aliases =
netbios scope =
server string = Administration Samba Server
interfaces = 192.168.4.3, 192.168.6.1, 127.0.0.1
bind interfaces only = No
config backend = file
security = USER
auth methods =
encrypt passwords = Yes
update encrypted = No
client schannel = Auto
server schannel = Auto
allow trusted domains = Yes
map to guest = Never
null passwords = No
obey pam restrictions = No
password server = *
smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd
private dir = /var/lib/samba/private
passdb backend = smbpasswd
algorithmic rid base = 1000
root directory =
guest account = nobody
enable privileges = Yes
pam password change = No
passwd program =
passwd chat = *new*password* %n\n *new*password* %n\n *changed*
passwd chat debug = No
passwd chat timeout = 2
check password script =
username map =
password level = 0
username level = 0
unix password sync = No
restrict anonymous = 0
lanman auth = No
ntlm auth = Yes
client NTLMv2 auth = No
client lanman auth = No
client plaintext auth = No
preload modules =
use kerberos keytab = No
log level = 1
syslog = 1
syslog only = No
log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log
max log size = 50
debug timestamp = Yes
debug prefix timestamp = No
debug hires timestamp = No
debug pid = No
debug uid = No
debug class = No
enable core files = Yes
smb ports = 445 139
large readwrite = Yes
max protocol = NT1
min protocol = CORE
min receivefile size = 0
read raw = Yes
write raw = Yes
disable netbios = No
reset on zero vc = No
acl compatibility = auto
defer sharing violations = Yes
nt pipe support = Yes
nt status support = Yes
announce version = 4.9
announce as = NT
max mux = 50
max xmit = 16644
name resolve order = hosts wins lmhosts bcast
max ttl = 259200
max wins ttl = 518400
min wins ttl = 21600
time server = Yes
unix extensions = Yes
use spnego = Yes
client signing = auto
server signing = No
client use spnego = Yes
client ldap sasl wrapping = plain
enable asu support = No
svcctl list =
deadtime = 0
getwd cache = Yes

Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Alexander Georgiev
 Sorry for being to vague.

 Here is the XP Pro error I get when I try to join the domain.
 A domian controller for the domain admin could not be contacted.
 Esure that the domain name is typed correctly.
 If the name is correct, click on the Details for troubleshooting
 information.

 Details:

 Note: This information is intended for a network administrator.  If you are
 not your network's administrator, notify the administrator that you received
 this information, which has been recorded in the file
 C:\WINDOWS\debug\dcdiag.txt.
 The domain name admin might be a NetBIOS domain name.  If this is the case,
 verify that the domain name is properly registered with WINS.
 If you are certain that the name is not a NetBIOS domain name, then the
 following information can help you troubleshoot your DNS configuration.
 An error occurred when DNS was queried for the service location (SRV)
 resource record used to locate a domain controller for domain admin.
 The error was: No records found for given DNS query.
 (error code 0x251D DNS_INFO_NO_RECORDS)
 The query was for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.admin
 For more information, click Help.

 Here is the testparm -sv you requested.

 For a short explaination of the IP's listed.  We have two domains.
 One served by 192.168.6.1 and one by 192.168.5.1.  I am currantly upgrading
 the 192.168.6. network to Windows 7. Or atleast trying.  192.168.4.1 is our
 gatway and the two servers listed above act as file servers and routers for
 their domains.  I hope that makes sence.


It seems, that the samba domain controller 192.168.6.1 fails to
register with the WINS server - 192.168.4.1, and the XP station cannot
locate it. You'd better post your smb.conf file and verify if the
domain controller registers with WINS server.

Best regards,
Alexander.
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:03 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 I think you are being vague (similar error).
 
 What is the exact error?
 
 What is the output of 'testparm -sv' ?
 
 
 Craig
 
 Sorry for being to vague.
  
 Here is the XP Pro error I get when I try to join the domain.
  
 A domian controller for the domain admin could not be contacted.
  
 Esure that the domain name is typed correctly.
  
 If the name is correct, click on the Details for troubleshooting
 information.
  
 Details:
  
 Note: This information is intended for a network administrator.  If
 you are not your network's administrator, notify the administrator
 that you received this information, which has been recorded in the
 file C:\WINDOWS\debug\dcdiag.txt.
 The domain name admin might be a NetBIOS domain name.  If this is the
 case, verify that the domain name is properly registered with WINS.
 If you are certain that the name is not a NetBIOS domain name, then
 the following information can help you troubleshoot your DNS
 configuration.
 An error occurred when DNS was queried for the service location (SRV)
 resource record used to locate a domain controller for domain admin.
 The error was: No records found for given DNS query.
 (error code 0x251D DNS_INFO_NO_RECORDS)
 The query was for the SRV record for _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.admin
 For more information, click Help.
  
 Here is the testparm -sv you requested.
  
 For a short explaination of the IP's listed.  We have two domains.
 One served by 192.168.6.1 and one by 192.168.5.1.  I am currantly
 upgrading the 192.168.6. network to Windows 7. Or atleast trying.
 192.168.4.1 is our gatway and the two servers listed above act as file
 servers and routers for their domains.  I hope that makes sence.
  
 Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
 Processing section [homes]
 Processing section [netlogon]
 WARNING: The share modes option is deprecated
 Processing section [admin]
 Processing section [staff]
 Processing section [ElemTeachers]
 Processing section [SecTeachers]
 Processing section [it]
 Processing section [office]
 Processing section [finance]
 Processing section [backup]
 Processing section [www]
 Processing section [scribeshare]
 Processing section [sosub]
 Loaded services file OK.
 Server role: ROLE_DOMAIN_PDC
 [global]
 dos charset = CP850
 unix charset = UTF-8
 display charset = LOCALE
 workgroup = ADMIN
 realm =
 netbios name = HERITAGE3
 netbios aliases =
 netbios scope =
 server string = Administration Samba Server
 interfaces = 192.168.4.3, 192.168.6.1, 127.0.0.1
 bind interfaces only = No
 config backend = file
 security = USER
 auth methods =
 encrypt passwords = Yes
 update encrypted = No
 client schannel = Auto
 server schannel = Auto
 allow trusted domains = Yes
 map to guest = Never
 null passwords = No
 obey pam restrictions = No
 password server = *
 smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd
 private dir = /var/lib/samba/private
 passdb backend = smbpasswd
 algorithmic rid base = 1000
 root directory =
 guest account = nobody
 enable privileges = Yes
 pam password change = No
 passwd program =
 passwd chat = *new*password* %n\n *new*password* %n\n
 *changed*
 passwd chat debug = No
 passwd chat timeout = 2
 check password script =
 username map =
 password level = 0
 username level = 0
 unix password sync = No
 restrict anonymous = 0
 lanman auth = No
 ntlm auth = Yes
 client NTLMv2 auth = No
 client lanman auth = No
 client plaintext auth = No
 preload modules =
 use kerberos keytab = No
 log level = 1
 syslog = 1
 syslog only = No
 log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log
 max log size = 50
 debug timestamp = Yes
 debug prefix timestamp = No
 debug hires timestamp = No
 debug pid = No
 debug uid = No
 debug class = No
 enable core files = Yes
 smb ports = 445 139
 large readwrite = Yes
 max protocol = NT1
 min protocol = CORE
 min receivefile size = 0
 read raw = Yes
 write raw = Yes
 disable netbios = No
 reset on zero vc = No
 acl compatibility = auto
 defer sharing violations = Yes
 nt pipe support = Yes
 nt status support = Yes
 announce version = 4.9
 announce as = NT
 max mux = 50
 max xmit = 16644
 name resolve order = hosts wins lmhosts bcast
 max ttl = 259200
 max wins ttl = 518400
 min wins ttl = 21600
 time server = Yes
 unix 

Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 07/08/2010 05:34 PM, Doug Coats wrote:
...
 Has anyone been able to get Samba3x.3.3.8 to work as a PDC?

It worked for me in a test setup I had a month ago:

Made a copy of our main CentOS 5 server, replace samba with samba3x,
and I was able to join XP and W7 (with registry patch) to the domain.

The samba server was set up as a WINS server.

I think there was a problem that the default location of some
of the samba files have been moved going from samba to samba3x
(smbpasswd maybe?).

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:03 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:


 Here is the testparm -sv you requested.
  
 For a short explaination of the IP's listed.  We have two domains.
 One served by 192.168.6.1 and one by 192.168.5.1.  I am currantly
 upgrading the 192.168.6. network to Windows 7. Or atleast trying.
 192.168.4.1 is our gatway and the two servers listed above act as file
 servers and routers for their domains.  I hope that makes sence.
  
 Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
---
To be truth full I think you have an out right mess going on here.  One
thing your smb config is 10 miles long.

Start over on a fresh install test machine and try joining the W7
machine to it.  Then take your changes and merg into your current
working machine config.  Life will be a lot easier.  One change at a
time.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 13:44 -0400, JohnS wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:03 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 
 
  Here is the testparm -sv you requested.
   
  For a short explaination of the IP's listed.  We have two domains.
  One served by 192.168.6.1 and one by 192.168.5.1.  I am currantly
  upgrading the 192.168.6. network to Windows 7. Or atleast trying.
  192.168.4.1 is our gatway and the two servers listed above act as file
  servers and routers for their domains.  I hope that makes sence.
   
  Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
 ---
 To be truth full I think you have an out right mess going on here.  One
 thing your smb config is 10 miles long.
 
 Start over on a fresh install test machine and try joining the W7
 machine to it.  Then take your changes and merg into your current
 working machine config.  Life will be a lot easier.  One change at a
 time.

the reason the smb.conf is 10 miles long is that I told him to output
'testparm -sv' which includes all specific settings and all assumed
defaults.

His problem is WINS resolution doesn't tell the workstations which
computer is the domain controller and that is what he needs to fix
(first by designating a domain controller and then by making sure that
WINS is functioning well).

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats


 His problem is WINS resolution doesn't tell the workstations which
 computer is the domain controller and that is what he needs to fix
 (first by designating a domain controller and then by making sure that
 WINS is functioning well).

 Craig

Thanks for all the help.  I agree that WINS seems to be the issue, or
atleast it is a place that we can start with to help track down the issue.

Currently 192.168.4.1 is the WINS server.  This is necessary because I need
cross subnet brownsing between 192.168.6. and 192.168.5.  According to the
man page for smb.conf only one computer on your network can be a WINS server
and this is the computer that all other computers have access to.

That being said 192.168.6. and 192.168.5. are both PDC's for their subnet.
All I have done is moved the 192.168.6.1 configuration to a new machine.
Replaced that machine.  Removed Samba 3.0 and Installed Samba3x.

How do I make sure that 192.168.4.1 recognizes 192.168.6.1 as the ADMIN PDC
so that WINS traffic is directed correctly?
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 10:50 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 13:44 -0400, JohnS wrote:
  On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:03 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
  
  
   Here is the testparm -sv you requested.

   For a short explaination of the IP's listed.  We have two domains.
   One served by 192.168.6.1 and one by 192.168.5.1.  I am currantly
   upgrading the 192.168.6. network to Windows 7. Or atleast trying.
   192.168.4.1 is our gatway and the two servers listed above act as file
   servers and routers for their domains.  I hope that makes sence.

   Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
  ---
  To be truth full I think you have an out right mess going on here.  One
  thing your smb config is 10 miles long.
  
  Start over on a fresh install test machine and try joining the W7
  machine to it.  Then take your changes and merg into your current
  working machine config.  Life will be a lot easier.  One change at a
  time.
 
snip
 His problem is WINS resolution doesn't tell the workstations which
 computer is the domain controller and that is what he needs to fix
 (first by designating a domain controller and then by making sure that
 WINS is functioning well).
 
 Craig
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Exactly why I said start at the bottom and work your way up.  And
another problem is I think he said he has multi netowked smbd domains?
How is he routing network calls.  Triangle Topology?  It's best to lab
learn first no matter what your experience is.

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[CentOS] Some Mirrors missing 5.5 directory

2010-07-08 Thread Camron W. Fox
Alle,

I've noticed recently that during my nightly mrepo runs, I get failures
like this:

mirror: Access failed: 404 Not Found (/centos/5.5/updates/i386/RPMS)
mrepo: Mirroring failed for
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.5/updates/i386/RPMS/ with message:
  Failed with return code: 256

When I checked http://mirror.centos.org/centos, I noticed some mirrors
have 5.5 directories and some do not, so depending on which mirror is
selected during the run, sometimes I get updates and sometimes I do not.
I've only seen this with 5.5, never before. Did I miss something
somewhere? I *would* just use release 5 in our mrepo conf files if I
didn't need to mount CentOS-$release-$arch-bin-DVD-?of2.iso. I suppose I
could hard code the $release in this line, but it just seems sloppy.

Best Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:58 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 
 His problem is WINS resolution doesn't tell the workstations
 which
 computer is the domain controller and that is what he needs to
 fix
 (first by designating a domain controller and then by making
 sure that
 WINS is functioning well).
 
 Craig
 
 Thanks for all the help.  I agree that WINS seems to be the issue, or
 atleast it is a place that we can start with to help track down the
 issue.
  
 Currently 192.168.4.1 is the WINS server.  This is necessary because I
 need cross subnet brownsing between 192.168.6. and 192.168.5.
 According to the man page for smb.conf only one computer on your
 network can be a WINS server and this is the computer that all other
 computers have access to.
  
 That being said 192.168.6. and 192.168.5. are both PDC's for their
 subnet.  All I have done is moved the 192.168.6.1 configuration to a
 new machine.  Replaced that machine.  Removed Samba 3.0 and Installed
 Samba3x.
  
 How do I make sure that 192.168.4.1 recognizes 192.168.6.1 as the
 ADMIN PDC so that WINS traffic is directed correctly?

a 'network' is 192.168.x assuming that you are using class C subnet
masks (255.255.255.0) and so you should have a WINS server on EACH
network (192.168.4, 192.168.5, 192.168.6, etc.)

Cross network browsing is somewhat of a hit or miss and not reliable...
for a number of reasons such as the default firewall settings for
Windows systems will only allow network traffic to the immediate network
that it is on (i.e. 192.168.6)

The important thing is to get the WINS working on EACH network. It's
also easiest to have your PDC be the WINS server - period.

Also, a PDC must necessarily have...

domain master = yes
preferred master = yes
domain logins = yes
security = user

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats
 a 'network' is 192.168.x assuming that you are using class C subnet
 masks (255.255.255.0) and so you should have a WINS server on EACH
 network (192.168.4, 192.168.5, 192.168.6, etc.)

 Cross network browsing is somewhat of a hit or miss and not reliable...
 for a number of reasons such as the default firewall settings for
 Windows systems will only allow network traffic to the immediate network
 that it is on (i.e. 192.168.6)

 The important thing is to get the WINS working on EACH network. It's
 also easiest to have your PDC be the WINS server - period.

 Also, a PDC must necessarily have...

 domain master = yes
 preferred master = yes
 domain logins = yes
 security = user

 Craig


I agree that preferred master should have been set to yes.  I made that
change with but still no joy.

I don't mean to be contrary but our cross subnet browsing has been working
since 2003 when we set up this network.  It has been very reliable and I
depend on it to work.  And I believe it is because of have our WINS servers
the way that they are.

I do think that I have hit upon an issue.  The WINS data for samba is kept
in /var/cache/samba.dat but it is updated dynamically with nmdb.  It has
dated data.  When I moved the server I changed the server name slightly and
so the WINS data points to the old name at the current IP.  In fact with
this network rebuild I changed most of my computer names and they are all
incorrect.  I think I need to shut down all three instances of samba clear
the wins data and then start them all again so that they populate from
scratch.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/8/2010 1:15 PM, Craig White wrote:

 a 'network' is 192.168.x assuming that you are using class C subnet
 masks (255.255.255.0) and so you should have a WINS server on EACH
 network (192.168.4, 192.168.5, 192.168.6, etc.)

I thought the point of WINS was to have a single address that would 
collate the names/addresses from all your networks.

 The important thing is to get the WINS working on EACH network. It's
 also easiest to have your PDC be the WINS server - period.

But PDC's aren't limited to one subnet either.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats


 I do think that I have hit upon an issue.  The WINS data for samba is kept
 in /var/cache/samba.dat but it is updated dynamically with nmdb.  It has
 dated data.  When I moved the server I changed the server name slightly and
 so the WINS data points to the old name at the current IP.  In fact with
 this network rebuild I changed most of my computer names and they are all
 incorrect.  I think I need to shut down all three instances of samba clear
 the wins data and then start them all again so that they populate from
 scratch.



Correction to that.  Only the WINS server has data in this location.
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread m . roth
Doug Coats wrote:


 I do think that I have hit upon an issue.  The WINS data for samba is
 kept in /var/cache/samba.dat but it is updated dynamically with nmdb. 
It has
 dated data.  When I moved the server I changed the server name slightly
 and so the WINS data points to the old name at the current IP.  In fact
with
 this network rebuild I changed most of my computer names and they are
 all incorrect.  I think I need to shut down all three instances of samba
 clear the wins data and then start them all again so that they populate
from
 scratch.

 Correction to that.  Only the WINS server has data in this location.

Um, does a timing issue come into play here? If the local clock is not
within a few seconds, we can't connect to AD (we are going through
kerborous). Is there time data in the cache?

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats
With the WINS data cleared. for the past 20 min.  (I did it before I wrote
about it) Neither PDC has reported to WINS.  So no wonder my PC's can't find
their domain.

So how do I make sure that 192.168.6.1 is added to wins.dat.  I could do it
manually but I would rather it communicate the way that it was intended to
just so I know that the network is configured and working correctly.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 13:41 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:


 I agree that preferred master should have been set to yes.  I made
 that change with but still no joy.
  
 I don't mean to be contrary but our cross subnet browsing has been
 working since 2003 when we set up this network.  It has been very
 reliable and I depend on it to work.  And I believe it is because of
 have our WINS servers the way that they are.

Contrary? Well I had to ask.  Because it has to work like that for your
SNMs. NP

 I do think that I have hit upon an issue.  The WINS data for samba is kept in 
 /var/cache/samba.dat but it is updated dynamically with nmdb.  It has dated 
 data.  When I moved the server I changed the server name slightly and so the 
 WINS data points to the old name at the current IP.  In fact with this 
 network rebuild I changed most of my computer names and they are all 
 incorrect.  I think I need to shut down all three instances of samba clear 
 the wins data and then start them all again so that they populate from 
 scratch.
  
 Doug
---
Ok since you say the interdomain networking is functioning (triangle
routing) have a read at this:
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/domain-member.html#id2573732


John

all else that fails put that machine on another known working Subnet and
have a go at that.



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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats


 Um, does a timing issue come into play here? If the local clock is not
 within a few seconds, we can't connect to AD (we are going through
 kerborous). Is there time data in the cache?

mark


Both the XP box and the Windows 7 use the PDC server as their time server so
they are set to the same time.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats
 ---
 Ok since you say the interdomain networking is functioning (triangle
 routing) have a read at this:

 http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/domain-member.html#id2573732


 John

 all else that fails put that machine on another known working Subnet and
 have a go at that.

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As I said in another post I changed the machine name to an entirely
different format and I didn't copy any domain information from the prior
machine(meaning I didn't try to migrate the information placed in the
smbpasswd). Since all the machines were being switched to Windows 7 I wanted
a clean start.
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 13:43 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 7/8/2010 1:15 PM, Craig White wrote:
 
  a 'network' is 192.168.x assuming that you are using class C subnet
  masks (255.255.255.0) and so you should have a WINS server on EACH
  network (192.168.4, 192.168.5, 192.168.6, etc.)
 
 I thought the point of WINS was to have a single address that would 
 collate the names/addresses from all your networks.
 
  The important thing is to get the WINS working on EACH network. It's
  also easiest to have your PDC be the WINS server - period.
 
 But PDC's aren't limited to one subnet either.

WINS is a broadcast based protocol and thus it only works on the local
network and each subnet/network MUST necessarily have master browser
elections. The WINS server on each subnet would serve as a clearing
house for name resolution for each subnet/network. That is clearly not
working for him just from that error message.

Samba machines are not limited to one subnet either by multiple network
addresses or via routers but their ability to identify their presence on
other subnets/networks is limited at best (remote announce).

The concept was that computers just find each other on a subnet via
network browsing. When you have a server involved, you want to 'rig' the
browser elections so you have entirely predictable location for
retrieving the current workgroup members instead of the haphazard method
employed by default. This means you put a WINS server on each subnet and
specifically instruct each client (whether a Windows workstation or a
samba server) to specifically interrogate that WINS server for the
latest browse list.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/8/2010 1:52 PM, Doug Coats wrote:
 With the WINS data cleared. for the past 20 min.  (I did it before I
 wrote about it) Neither PDC has reported to WINS.  So no wonder my PC's
 can't find their domain.
 So how do I make sure that 192.168.6.1 is added to wins.dat.  I could do
 it manually but I would rather it communicate the way that it was
 intended to just so I know that the network is configured and working
 correctly.

Is the wins server address configured in the PDCs?  I thought the way 
this was supposed to work was that the master browsers on each subnet 
would update their addresses to the wins server - and that a pdc would 
always be the master browser on its subnet.  If the wins address is 
configured, are there firewalls between them?

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 13:52 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 With the WINS data cleared. for the past 20 min.  (I did it before I
 wrote about it) Neither PDC has reported to WINS.  So no wonder my
 PC's can't find their domain.
  
 So how do I make sure that 192.168.6.1 is added to wins.dat.  I could
 do it manually but I would rather it communicate the way that it was
 intended to just so I know that the network is configured and working
 correctly.

the truth is you can't if the PDC's do not have an interface on
192.168.6 network - you can create static entries in WINS files on each
hosts but that defeats the purpose. You can however, distribute NETBIOS
server information via DHCP.

What you really want is a WINS server on each subnet. If it's
workstation professional, you might be able to install WINS on one of
them if you don't have any samba server on that particular subnet.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/8/2010 2:12 PM, Craig White wrote:

 I thought the point of WINS was to have a single address that would
 collate the names/addresses from all your networks.

 The important thing is to get the WINS working on EACH network. It's
 also easiest to have your PDC be the WINS server - period.

 But PDC's aren't limited to one subnet either.
 
 WINS is a broadcast based protocol and thus it only works on the local
 network and each subnet/network MUST necessarily have master browser
 elections. The WINS server on each subnet would serve as a clearing
 house for name resolution for each subnet/network. That is clearly not
 working for him just from that error message.

Errr, no.  WINS is a server at a specified and routable IP address where 
the subnet master browsers send their lists periodically.  Normally 
you'd have your DHCP server hand out the wins server address and 
manually configure it on machines with static IPs.  The point of using 
WINS is to have one server that knows all of your windows name/address 
mappings.

 Samba machines are not limited to one subnet either by multiple network
 addresses or via routers but their ability to identify their presence on
 other subnets/networks is limited at best (remote announce).

 The concept was that computers just find each other on a subnet via
 network browsing. When you have a server involved, you want to 'rig' the
 browser elections so you have entirely predictable location for
 retrieving the current workgroup members instead of the haphazard method
 employed by default. This means you put a WINS server on each subnet and
 specifically instruct each client (whether a Windows workstation or a
 samba server) to specifically interrogate that WINS server for the
 latest browse list.

You are partly right there, but you really want to end up with one 
server that knows all the names, not a separate incomplete set on every 
subnet.  How do you manage VPN connections that might be point-to-point 
with nothing else on the same subnet at all?

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats
I just did a checkconfig on the PDC in question 192.168.6.1.  And I noticed
something that might be nothing but it puzzles me.  The nmb service is set
to off at all run levels.  If I check the nmb status it says that it is
stopped.  Doesn't Samba need that for net-bios support?  I am probably
showing my ignorace here but what is the connection between net-bios names
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:12 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:

 
 As I said in another post I changed the machine name to an entirely
 different format and I didn't copy any domain information from the
 prior machine(meaning I didn't try to migrate the information placed
 in the smbpasswd). Since all the machines were being switched to
 Windows 7 I wanted a clean start.
---
I see now.  I went back and read your whole thread.  Just like Craig has
said to you in the last mail it will not work as you expect.  There has
to be a helper or Wins server on each of the SNs to contact the Master
Browser.  That's is the only I am aware of doing it the right way also.

You could pass them off of a DHCP Helper server but I suspect that's
beyond what you want.  The thing is the network is a Ad-Hoc Network and
there hard to deal with with out proper prior planing.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:29 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:

  WINS is a broadcast based protocol and thus it only works on the local
  network and each subnet/network MUST necessarily have master browser
  elections. The WINS server on each subnet would serve as a clearing
  house for name resolution for each subnet/network. That is clearly not
  working for him just from that error message.
 
 Errr, no.  WINS is a server at a specified and routable IP address where 
 the subnet master browsers send their lists periodically.  Normally 
 you'd have your DHCP server hand out the wins server address and 
 manually configure it on machines with static IPs.  The point of using 
 WINS is to have one server that knows all of your windows name/address 
 mappings.
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Correct and Not Correct... How about that?  There really is no right or
wrong in either of you twos answer.  The right way is Wins on every SN
to pass to the MB.  That's my opinion.

DHCP is the HACKING Way to pass off wins clients.  My Opinion.   But his
topology will require prolly a DHCP helper client because of the
subnets.  In essence it is a bad designed network that is the problem.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:36 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 I just did a checkconfig on the PDC in question 192.168.6.1.  And I
 noticed something that might be nothing but it puzzles me.  The nmb
 service is set to off at all run levels.  If I check the nmb status
 it says that it is stopped.  Doesn't Samba need that for net-bios
 support?  I am probably showing my ignorace here but what is the
 connection between net-bios names and WINS?

man nmbd

it has EVERYTHING to do with netbios

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:36 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 I just did a checkconfig on the PDC in question 192.168.6.1.  And I
 noticed something that might be nothing but it puzzles me.  The nmb
 service is set to off at all run levels.  If I check the nmb status
 it says that it is stopped.  Doesn't Samba need that for net-bios
 support?  I am probably showing my ignorace here but what is the
 connection between net-bios names and WINS?
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i need to come and PULL YOUR HAIR OUT I not being an asshole but we have
what is call man to find info on various applications including samba.

man nmbd


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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread m . roth
Doug Coats wrote:
 mark wrote:
 Um, does a timing issue come into play here? If the local clock is not
 within a few seconds, we can't connect to AD (we are going through
 kerborous). Is there time data in the cache?

 Both the XP box and the Windows 7 use the PDC server as their time server
 so they are set to the same time.

How 'bout with the server that's supposed to be the master, above the two
other PDCs?

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/8/2010 2:36 PM, Doug Coats wrote:
 I just did a checkconfig on the PDC in question 192.168.6.1.  And I
 noticed something that might be nothing but it puzzles me.  The nmb
 service is set to off at all run levels.  If I check the nmb status it
 says that it is stopped.  Doesn't Samba need that for net-bios support?
 I am probably showing my ignorace here but what is the connection
 between net-bios names and WINS?

Netbios can use multiple network transports, some of which only have 
broadcasts to support name resolution.  Each subnet will elect a master 
browser to collect the names and respond to queries.  As an extension 
for the IP protocol which is routeable, the WINS service accepts the 
lists from multiple master browsers at a pre-configured IP address. For 
it to work, the master browser that happens to be elected on any subnet 
must be configured to use the same WINS address and must have IP 
protocol working - and the clients need the address to query as part of 
their configuration, either from DHCP or manually entered if they have a 
static IP.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats

 How 'bout with the server that's supposed to be the master, above the two
 other PDCs?

mark

It is set up to NTP to the same external servers so they should all be in
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:29 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 7/8/2010 2:12 PM, Craig White wrote:
 
  I thought the point of WINS was to have a single address that would
  collate the names/addresses from all your networks.
 
  The important thing is to get the WINS working on EACH network. It's
  also easiest to have your PDC be the WINS server - period.
 
  But PDC's aren't limited to one subnet either.
  
  WINS is a broadcast based protocol and thus it only works on the local
  network and each subnet/network MUST necessarily have master browser
  elections. The WINS server on each subnet would serve as a clearing
  house for name resolution for each subnet/network. That is clearly not
  working for him just from that error message.
 
 Errr, no.  WINS is a server at a specified and routable IP address where 
 the subnet master browsers send their lists periodically.  Normally 
 you'd have your DHCP server hand out the wins server address and 
 manually configure it on machines with static IPs.  The point of using 
 WINS is to have one server that knows all of your windows name/address 
 mappings.
 
  Samba machines are not limited to one subnet either by multiple network
  addresses or via routers but their ability to identify their presence on
  other subnets/networks is limited at best (remote announce).
 
  The concept was that computers just find each other on a subnet via
  network browsing. When you have a server involved, you want to 'rig' the
  browser elections so you have entirely predictable location for
  retrieving the current workgroup members instead of the haphazard method
  employed by default. This means you put a WINS server on each subnet and
  specifically instruct each client (whether a Windows workstation or a
  samba server) to specifically interrogate that WINS server for the
  latest browse list.
 
 You are partly right there, but you really want to end up with one 
 server that knows all the names, not a separate incomplete set on every 
 subnet.  How do you manage VPN connections that might be point-to-point 
 with nothing else on the same subnet at all?

I'm not going to argue with you but I will point out the Samba
documentation that covers this...

http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/NetworkBrowsing.html

from which I quote...

Right now Samba WINS does not support MS-WINS replication. This means
that when setting up Samba as a WINS server, there must only be one nmbd
configured as a WINS server on the network. Some sites have used
multiple Samba WINS servers for redundancy (one server per subnet) and
then used remote browse sync and remote announce to effect browse list
collation across all segments.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/8/2010 2:43 PM, JohnS wrote:

 WINS is a broadcast based protocol and thus it only works on the local
 network and each subnet/network MUST necessarily have master browser
 elections. The WINS server on each subnet would serve as a clearing
 house for name resolution for each subnet/network. That is clearly not
 working for him just from that error message.

 Errr, no.  WINS is a server at a specified and routable IP address where
 the subnet master browsers send their lists periodically.  Normally
 you'd have your DHCP server hand out the wins server address and
 manually configure it on machines with static IPs.  The point of using
 WINS is to have one server that knows all of your windows name/address
 mappings.
 ---
 Correct and Not Correct... How about that?  There really is no right or
 wrong in either of you twos answer.  The right way is Wins on every SN
 to pass to the MB.  That's my opinion.

So what do you do on a VPN connection that is configured to not be on 
the same subnet as any server?  Or subnets where there is no 
windows-related service at all but you might plug in a client?

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats

  Netbios can use multiple network transports, some of which only have
 broadcasts to support name resolution.  Each subnet will elect a master
 browser to collect the names and respond to queries.  As an extension
 for the IP protocol which is routeable, the WINS service accepts the
 lists from multiple master browsers at a pre-configured IP address. For
 it to work, the master browser that happens to be elected on any subnet
 must be configured to use the same WINS address and must have IP
 protocol working - and the clients need the address to query as part of
 their configuration, either from DHCP or manually entered if they have a
 static IP.

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Thank you Les for not killing me off like some of the other people who have
been trying to help.

As a response to others, YES, I should have read the man but I might have
posed the question all the same.  Sometimes my eyes glaze over after about
he 3rd sentence when trying to make sense of them.

I turned on nmb and that solved my problem.

Sometimes my life serves as a warning to others and now all they have to do
is read my posts and learn from my mistakes.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:55 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:

  Correct and Not Correct... How about that?  There really is no right or
  wrong in either of you twos answer.  The right way is Wins on every SN
  to pass to the MB.  That's my opinion.
 
 So what do you do on a VPN connection that is configured to not be on 
 the same subnet as any server?  Or subnets where there is no 
 windows-related service at all but you might plug in a client?
---
And your getting at what?  How does this relate to the OPs problem?

You seen to have a little knowledge of ip.  So why not pass the proper
routing info to the vpn client.  If perhaps it was configured right the
first time there would not be no what do I do now.

Windows related servvce problem?  Slap a dhcp helper to pass the
connections to the main dhcp server then to the wins server.  It can be
any Unix variant dhcp helper and server.  There's two words for this:
'Network Aware.  That's all it takes.

Don't make so complicated you can't control.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/8/2010 3:11 PM, JohnS wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:55 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:

 Correct and Not Correct... How about that?  There really is no right or
 wrong in either of you twos answer.  The right way is Wins on every SN
 to pass to the MB.  That's my opinion.

 So what do you do on a VPN connection that is configured to not be on
 the same subnet as any server?  Or subnets where there is no
 windows-related service at all but you might plug in a client?
 ---
 And your getting at what?  How does this relate to the OPs problem?

I'm getting at your assertion that a Wins server on every subnet is 
right  being impractical in most networks.  And like the OPs problem 
it has to do with a windows client being able to resolve a windows name 
on a different subnet.

 You seen to have a little knowledge of ip.  So why not pass the proper
 routing info to the vpn client.  If perhaps it was configured right the
 first time there would not be no what do I do now.

Windows name resolution has next to nothing to do with ip routing.  If 
your routing works you can make windows name resolution work over it, 
but it isn't automatic.

 Windows related servvce problem?  Slap a dhcp helper to pass the
 connections to the main dhcp server then to the wins server.  It can be
 any Unix variant dhcp helper and server.  There's two words for this:
 'Network Aware.  That's all it takes.

DHCP service also doesn't have much to do with name resolution other 
than being able to hand out the address of the resolver.

 Don't make so complicated you can't control.

Agreed, but putting a wins server on every subnet would be complicated - 
and unnecessary.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 15:31 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:

  And your getting at what?  How does this relate to the OPs problem?
 
 I'm getting at your assertion that a Wins server on every subnet is 
 right  being impractical in most networks.  And like the OPs problem 
 it has to do with a windows client being able to resolve a windows name 
 on a different subnet.

Ahh yea I know that.  But times you have to suffice one or the other but
not both.

  You seen to have a little knowledge of ip.  So why not pass the proper
  routing info to the vpn client.  If perhaps it was configured right the
  first time there would not be no what do I do now.
 
 Windows name resolution has next to nothing to do with ip routing.  If 
 your routing works you can make windows name resolution work over it, 
 but it isn't automatic.

 If it does not work then it want happen as in getting routed to the
wins server.  You agree on that right?  If routing don't work then there
is no wins resolution in effect.  In other words we have to know where
to go.

  Windows related servvce problem?  Slap a dhcp helper to pass the
  connections to the main dhcp server then to the wins server.  It can be
  any Unix variant dhcp helper and server.  There's two words for this:
  'Network Aware.  That's all it takes.
 
 DHCP service also doesn't have much to do with name resolution other 
 than being able to hand out the address of the resolver.

lol no not much but come in needy in some situations. Pass off the wins
addy indeed though.

  Don't make so complicated you can't control.
 
 Agreed, but putting a wins server on every subnet would be complicated - 
 and unnecessary.

Yea could be a PITA.  You know umm Winblows Serve, WINS Services can umm do 
multi SNs I do think.  
Now I may not me totally correct on that.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/8/2010 4:00 PM, JohnS wrote:

 Windows name resolution has next to nothing to do with ip routing.  If
 your routing works you can make windows name resolution work over it,
 but it isn't automatic.

   If it does not work then it want happen as in getting routed to the
 wins server.  You agree on that right?  If routing don't work then there
 is no wins resolution in effect.  In other words we have to know where
 to go.

Yes, if your routing is broken or you firewall needed services between 
subnets, lots of things will break.

 Agreed, but putting a wins server on every subnet would be complicated -
 and unnecessary.

 Yea could be a PITA.  You know umm Winblows Serve, WINS Services can umm do 
 multi SNs I do think.
 Now I may not me totally correct on that.

That's the whole point of using a WINS server.  If you only have or care 
about one subnet you can let broadcasts and the ad-hoc master browser 
election do their thing.  Current windows versions will also use DNS for 
most name lookups but I don't know if you can use it to find a PDC. 
Active Directory sort of hides the difference between netbios and DNS 
names by combining them - and things get weird if don't put them on the 
same server.

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[CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-08 Thread Seth Bardash
To the Linux Community at Large:

I reported to this list back in January, 2010 that the standard x86_64 
kernel, when built from the src.rpm and modified for AMD K8 / K10 
Extensions would not build. I reported this here and to Red Hat via 
Bugzilla ID number 558367. RH AS / Centos 5.3 worked fine. That was 
Centos 5.4 / Red Hat Enterprise AS 5 Update 4. Today we tried to 
optimize Red Hat Enterprise AS 5 Update 5. Same problem. At last check 
all kernels from 2.6.18-10 to 2.6.18-194 won't build with AMD specific 
optimizations.

For 9 years now we have used and supported Centos and before that white 
box. We have sold, installed and provided consulting on Red Hat Linux 
and RH Enterprise Linux, Centos, Scientific Linux, OpenSUSE and SUSE 
Linux Enterprise.

In April this year, the bug was still marked as new and we had to 
recommend to a customer to use SUSE Linux Enterprise instead of Red Hat 
Enterprise, as Novell's product supports optimizations in its kernel for 
AMD Opterons. 12 SLES Enterprise copies were sold to the customer. I'm 
sure that would have easily paid for the fix required in Redhat's kernel.

I am beginning to wonder if Red Hat is getting too big? Or that it just 
does not care. Other ideas less pleasant come to mind  Today, the 
old bug was still marked as new (6+ months and counting). I entered a 
new bug report for RH 5.5 for the same issue. Is there no way, unless 
you are a huge customer, to get your bug listed as anything except LOW 
PRIORITY??

Now we are looking at the AMD G34 CPU's and are building some demo 
units. I think its time to benchmark these systems with the working - 
non optimized Red Hat / Centos Linux versus the optimized Opensuse / 
SLES Linux for standard server functions and publish them.

Has anyone else had this NON response from Red Hat for similar issues? 
I'd like to hear from them.

Thanks for reading
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[CentOS] EC2 elastic IP failover

2010-07-08 Thread Andrei
Hello,

I have two EC2 instances and I would like to setup some sort of
failover strategy for them.
They currently act as load balancers, forwarding layer 7 traffic using
haproxy and stunnel
to other EC2 instances. One of these load balancers currently has an
elastic IP assigned
with an A record pointing to it. What I'm trying to achieve is to
remap this elastic IP in the
eventuality of an instance failure. I know that
heartbeat/keepalived/pacemaker/openais can
do this without any kind of trouble but these tools don't work in
Amazon's cloud due to
restrictions imposed on their network (multicast/unicast traffic). One
way of doing this would
would require a network monitoring system that supports event-based
script execution. At
this point I'm thinking about writing a wrapper script around
'ec2-associate-address' and upon
detecting a failure on instance A, my network monitoring system would
simply execute the
script on instance B in order to re-associate the elastic IP.

Does anyone have a better/more elegant solution to this?

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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-08 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 at 3:39pm, Seth Bardash wrote

 I am beginning to wonder if Red Hat is getting too big? Or that it just
 does not care. Other ideas less pleasant come to mind  Today, the
 old bug was still marked as new (6+ months and counting). I entered a
 new bug report for RH 5.5 for the same issue. Is there no way, unless
 you are a huge customer, to get your bug listed as anything except LOW
 PRIORITY??

It has been stated many times and on many fora that Red Hat's bugzilla is 
not a mechanism for support.  They are under no obligation to address 
issues raised there.  Is it nice when they do?  Absolutely.  Should you 
expect (nay, demand) it?  Nope.  The proper way to get Red Hat to address 
an issue is to open a ticket via your support contract with them.

 Now we are looking at the AMD G34 CPU's and are building some demo
 units. I think its time to benchmark these systems with the working -
 non optimized Red Hat / Centos Linux versus the optimized Opensuse /
 SLES Linux for standard server functions and publish them.

While that may be interesting to compare distributions, I think it would 
do little to evaluate the benefit of the kernel CPU optimizations.  There 
are just too many other variables.  I would be very interested to see 
numbers comparing the exact same Red Hat distribution benchmarked with and 
without the kernel optimizations (you said 5.3 worked just fine).  Do you 
have previous numbers on that showing a marked benefit?

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Coats
After a little bit of research I feel a little vindicated.  It seems that
Samba3x seporated out nmb.  On Samba 3.0 the nmb service does not show up in
the chkconfig.  It simply starts and stops with smb.

On Samba3x it seporates out nmb and it does not start by itself.  So based
on my experience I never needed to start nmb seporately so just like all of
you it didn't enter my mind as the culperate.
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 18:10 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
 
 After a little bit of research I feel a little vindicated.  It seems
 that Samba3x seporated out nmb.  On Samba 3.0 the nmb service does not
 show up in the chkconfig.  It simply starts and stops with smb.
  
 On Samba3x it seporates out nmb and it does not start by itself.  So
 based on my experience I never needed to start nmb seporately so just
 like all of you it didn't enter my mind as the culperate.

yeah - Fedora packaging separated the 2 several releases ago and I
gather that all of the new packages are now doing that but RHEL releases
aren't likely to change.

I thought the name calling was rather rude/harsh and uncalled for and
think you did a pretty good job of tracking down the problem.

Generally though, in your setup I would probably discourage cross subnet
browse lists because they can get large and slow and generate excessive
traffic. I would probably segregate student computers and teacher
computers and not display teacher computers to students, etc.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/08/10 1:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 I'm getting at your assertion that a Wins server on every subnet is
 right  being impractical in most networks.  And like the OPs problem
 it has to do with a windows client being able to resolve a windows name
 on a different subnet.


I've never HEARD of using multiple wins servers, one per network 
segment.   each SMB client can find the WINS server if you put it in the 
right DHCP option, or if you manually configure the client to know where 
the WINS server is.   I've never used more than 2 of them 
enterprise-wide, and nowdays, you don't need WINS at all, Windows uses 
DNS as its primary locator service with Active Directory, and WINS is 
heavily deprecated.

but, this whole discussion really has nothing to do with CentOS 
specifically, it would better be addressed on a Samba list, I'm sure.


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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-08 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:35:47PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:

 It has been stated many times and on many fora that Red Hat's bugzilla is 
 not a mechanism for support.  They are under no obligation to address 
 issues raised there.  Is it nice when they do?  Absolutely. 

There are two issues you're conflating here. The first, paramount one is: Is
Red Hat taking responsibility for bugs people have taken the effort to
accurately report to them? This is a measure of any software project,
totally separate from the issue of whether and for what the project leads
provide paid support. In particular, if they are marketing this software to
anyone - even if the person kind enough to report the bug is not a paying
customer - they have a responsibility _to their paying customers_ to resolve
all serious bugs in a timely manner - or at least to indicate in their
bugzilla why they are rejecting fixing them.

This is an implicit contract that runs across all open source software
projects. We can't pretend that Red Hat is ignorant of it. If they're
chosing to ignore it this a violation of our community's ethics. Not that
the rest of us are Boy Scouts either. Still it's worthy of discussion and
complaint - the tribute vice owes to virtue and all that.

Besides, the poster here is making a serious point about Red Hat losing
sales. Smart companies pay attention to that sort of detail. It's not being
unkind to point out to them when they're missing out on a profit
opportunity. They owe it not just to their customers, but to their
shareholders, to stay awake on that.

Best,
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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/08/10 2:39 PM, Seth Bardash wrote:
 To the Linux Community at Large:

 I reported to this list back in January, 2010 that the standard x86_64
 kernel, when built from the src.rpm and modified for ...

I don't understand how you think that this is a bug.  you modified 
something and it broke.   the provided redhat binary kernels work fine 
as advertised.


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[CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-08 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Whit Blauvelt wrote:

 This is an implicit contract that runs across all open 
 source software projects.

implicit contract ?

You know 'Whit' -- you deserve congratulations

You were just promoted into the 'hot air windbag' 'internet 
lawyer' 'I am entitled to it, just because I breathe' 
category

How about celebrating your promotion by leaving this mailing 
list?

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Re: [CentOS] mount cannot find system /dev/root

2010-07-08 Thread sync
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, sync jian...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi, guys:
 
  I attempt to compile a kernel on CentOS 5.3 i386 which is installed in
 the
  Virtualbox machine,
  and its kernel version is  2.6.18-128.el5 ,the new  kernel version is
  2.6.34.1
 
  All make procedure is running ok.
  I can generate initrd image with no problem too.
  But, when I try booting this kernel, I get Kernel panic error message
 like
  these:
 
  mount: could not find filesystem '/dev/root'

 Custom kernels are not supported by CentOS.

 However... that question was answered by a forum user some time ago.
 Please see my blog for more details:


 http://blog.toracat.org/2010/03/want-a-custom-kernel-on-centos-noo-really/

 Thanks for your suggestion

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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-08 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, July 08, 2010 09:40 PM, JohnS wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 07:51 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 I think some bridge or vlan scenarios require promiscuous mode (and the
 corresponding disabling of hardware acceleration).  Maybe the real issue is 
 that
something accidentally disabled it and you now only work when tcpdump
 re-enables it.  I'm not sure how this is supposed to be managed atomically 
 when
 multiple programs may manipulate it and it needs to be propagated across
 multiple bonded nics, but maybe something went wrong there.  At least some
 things log the change so maybe you can get a hint about when it was turned on
 and off.
 ---

 Check out /proc/net/bonding/bond/YOUR_BOND.  Make sure your slave IDs
 are the same as in aggregator ID.  If not it will cause the problem your
 having.  Bad NIC hardware also it's failing over for a reason as the log
 showed.


They check out. What did help besides running tcpdump forever was to do 
a 'service network restart'. That made the network behave. I wonder 
what's going on...
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Re: [CentOS] DNS problem while trying to join windows 7 to samba3x pdc

2010-07-08 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 17:07 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 07/08/10 1:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
  I'm getting at your assertion that a Wins server on every subnet is
  right  being impractical in most networks.  And like the OPs problem
  it has to do with a windows client being able to resolve a windows name
  on a different subnet.
 
 
 I've never HEARD of using multiple wins servers, one per network 
 segment.   each SMB client can find the WINS server if you put it in the 
 right DHCP option, or if you manually configure the client to know where 
 the WINS server is.   I've never used more than 2 of them 
 enterprise-wide, and nowdays, you don't need WINS at all, Windows uses 
 DNS as its primary locator service with Active Directory, and WINS is 
 heavily deprecated.
 
 but, this whole discussion really has nothing to do with CentOS 
 specifically, it would better be addressed on a Samba list, I'm sure.

Actually, Microsoft always recommended multiple WINS servers and using
WINS replication.

I quoted the Samba documentation regarding using a separate Samba based
WINS server on each subnet.

It's not that WINS is deprecated in favor of DNS but where active
directory is used, it must use DNS and not WINS but a Samba 3.x server
is still in a NT type Domain and WINS is the methodology.

Craig


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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-08 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 at 8:16pm, Whit Blauvelt wrote

 On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:35:47PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:

 It has been stated many times and on many fora that Red Hat's bugzilla is
 not a mechanism for support.  They are under no obligation to address
 issues raised there.  Is it nice when they do?  Absolutely.

 There are two issues you're conflating here. The first, paramount one is: Is
 Red Hat taking responsibility for bugs people have taken the effort to
 accurately report to them? This is a measure of any software project,
 totally separate from the issue of whether and for what the project leads
 provide paid support. In particular, if they are marketing this software to
 anyone - even if the person kind enough to report the bug is not a paying
 customer - they have a responsibility _to their paying customers_ to resolve
 all serious bugs in a timely manner - or at least to indicate in their
 bugzilla why they are rejecting fixing them.

To be clear here, the bug in question is not present in any binaries 
that Red Hat ships.  None of their paying customers will ever experience 
this bug while running in a supported configuration.  It's a case of you 
broke it, you get to keep the pieces.

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[CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-08 Thread Lanny Marcus
I had a corrupted installation of OpenOffice.org 3.1.

When I used yum remove openoffice.org-core the response was package
openoffice.org-core available but not installed, but then, when I
used yum install openoffice.org-core there was a long list of
Transaction Check Errors. I then removed
openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus-noarch which was in the errors.

Here's the first of those errors:
Transaction Check Error:
  file /usr/bin/soffice from install of
openoffice.org-core-3.1.1-19.5.el5_5.1.i386 conflicts with file from
package openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus-3.1-9393.noarch

The transaction completed OK, after I removed
openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus-noarch, but now, there is nothing in
Applications/Office menu for OpenOffice.org   :-)


Question: How do I get the different entries for OpenOffice.org to
appear in that menu again so I can launch the application?
(If I need to install the latest version of
openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus-noarch what command do I use to get the
correct version?)


CentOS 5.5 (32 bit):
[la...@dell2400 ~]$ uname -a
Linux dell2400.homelan 2.6.18-194.3.1.el5 #1 SMP Thu May 13 13:09:10
EDT 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linuxlate

TIA! Lanny
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http://www.bras-panties.com/
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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-08 Thread Keith Keller
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 08:16:05PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote:
 
 Besides, the poster here is making a serious point about Red Hat losing
 sales.

If the OP is making a serious point about RH losing sales, perhaps he
should tell RedHat about it, instead of posting trollbait to an
unrelated mailing list (and addressing it to the Linux community at
large, which the CentOS mailing list is surely not).

You mention some sort of implicit open source contract: the other side
of that is the user, who needs to report problems properly and expect an
appropriate response.  Would you complain to RedHat support about a
problem with packages in the centosplus repository?

#!perl
use what everyone already else said about unsupported configurations;

--keith


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