[CentOS-docs] About Simplified Chinese Translation

2010-07-09 Thread gaohu
Three days ago, I send this mail to all of you , but till today , I get no 
response, So, any one get my idea?


Hi,

Hello, everyone.

My Name is GaoHu, I'm living in Hangzhou, ZheJiang, China.
Last year, I graduate from college in ShanXi. Now, I'm working in a IT company 
that 
using Delphi and Oracle, with Our Server RHEL.

I'm interest in Open Source and like CentOS as it is simple and  stable. I like 
to use
CentOS as my server, with Fedora as my desktop. I like linux and I just think 
there something
that I can do. Then I see Simplified Chinese translation of Wiki is now 
operated by Timothy Lee(timothy.ty@gmail.com). But he also in 
Responsibilities of Traditional Chinese translation of Wiki.
I just see that He use OpenOffice to help his job in Simplified Chinese 
translation. I think maybe I can 
help, for I'm living in the MainLand of China for so many years, and I use 
Simplified Chinese in my life,
my job, and my communication with people. 

So I want to do something, I want more people in China to use free software, to 
do something for the 
Open Source Community, more people to know Linux, and using Linux, As we all 
know, there is still
a lot of things to do.

Thank you.

Good Lucks, everyone.


2010-07-07 



gaohu 
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Re: [CentOS-es] Busqueda de archivos

2010-07-09 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
2010/7/9 Alberto Rivera M. rivera.albe...@gmail.com:
 Buenas noches señores listeros tengo una pequeña duda 

 Resulta que estoy haciendo una réplica de algunos directorios, algo así
 como un raid 1 entre dos máquinas pero necesito saber como afecta un
 grupo de aplicaciones en el sistema ya que no se puede copiar toda la
 estructura, por lo mismo he pensado hacer todas las modificaciones
 necesarias y luego hacer un find . -mtime -1  modificados.txt ... pero
 no sé si servirá para toodo el sistema ...


 Alguna idea de como identificar esto 

No sé si comprendo tu idea, podrías elaborar un poco sobre tus
objetivos: para qué exactamente necesitas hacer esa réplica? Si se
trata de tener un segundo equipo funcionando con las mismas
aplicaciones sobre los mismos datos, estás en lo cierto, tendrías que
replicar además los directorios de los cuales dependan las
aplicaciones... lo cual es laborioso de averiguar. Sin embargo, una
vez que lo averiguas, tu problema se reduce a replicar todos los
directorios involucrados.

Para replicar cada directorio se podrían pensar varias soluciones pero
me temo que mientras el sistema de archivos esté montado y haya
aplicaciones haciendo cambios, no hay soluciones completas. Una forma
de lograr una réplica correcta sería utilizar un snapshot sobre un
volumen lógico. Para esto necesitas un poco de espacio aparte. Al
iniciar el snapshot tienes acceso a todos los archivos del LV con la
seguridad de que ninguno va a cambiar en lo más mínimo hasta que
deshagas el snapshot. Si hay actividad de las aplicaciones, se harán
sobre otros bloques. No necesitas sacar el servidor de servicio,
desmontar el filesystem ni detener las aplicaciones.

Otra forma es pensar en una réplica viva, es decir, que se haga
bloque a bloque sobre otro equipo, a medida que todo el sistema
trabaja. Para esto la herramienta ideal es DRBD. Si lo que buscas es
tener una réplica de un sistema completo para lograr redundancia de
servicios, es una excelente opción.


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[CentOS-es] version de centos

2010-07-09 Thread jorge_dlp
hola lista

  tengo planiado instalar centos como server principalmente tendre instalado
   postgres, dns y otros servicios

tengo dos preguntas

   1  ¿que version de centos me recomiendas para esta actividad?

   2  mi presupuesto es reducido tengo planiado instalar un procesador 
  amd 2 nucleos ¿cual me recomiendan?

saludos! 

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[CentOS-es] apoyo

2010-07-09 Thread ENRIQUE GUILLERMO LLANOS GUILLEN
Estimados como puedo 
- autentificar a traves de la MAC los accesos de usuarios remotos a mi 
servidor vpn?

- cree un usuario en mi servidor VPN 
adduser 
passwd 

Lado servidor VPN (*conf) 
plugin /usr/share/openvpn/plugin/lib/openvpn-auth-pam.so login 

Lado cliente VPN (agregue esta linea en el archivo *.conf del cliente 
remoto) 
auth-user-pass

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[CentOS-es] sobre PDC Samba en CentOS

2010-07-09 Thread Yuri Arbelo Glez
saludos lista,

bien, yo tengo montado un PDC con Samba actualmente sin ningun tipo de 
problemas integrado a los usuarios de /home pq no tengo ni remota idea de 
ldap, ahora bien mi pregunta es la siguiente, en la ultima version de centos 
hay algo sobre un software parecido al Active Directory de Windows, 
teoricamente ese soft llamado Centos Directory Server seria algo 
independiente al PDC de Samba q tengo montado o es que trabajan juntos.

alguien podria darme una panoramica de la situacion?

gracias


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Re: [CentOS-es] version de centos

2010-07-09 Thread Oscar Osta Pueyo
Hola,

2010/7/9 jorge_dlp jorge_...@prodigy.net.mx:
 hola lista

  tengo planiado instalar centos como server principalmente tendre instalado
   postgres, dns y otros servicios

    tengo dos preguntas

   1  ¿que version de centos me recomiendas para esta actividad?

La última serie, 5.5.

   2  mi presupuesto es reducido tengo planiado instalar un procesador
      amd 2 nucleos ¿cual me recomiendan?

El más alto según tu presupuesto. Yo compraría que tuviera los flags
de virtualización, por si un día te hace falta.

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Re: [CentOS-es] apoyo

2010-07-09 Thread Xavier Mauricio Tirado
Title: firma_mae




autenticar por mac accesos remotos no seria logico pq la mac solo se
mantiene localmente en su segmento de red, una vez que sale pasa a
travez de diferentes metodos de enrutamiento y la mac que veras es la
de tu isp o gateway probablemente.




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ENRIQUE GUILLERMO LLANOS GUILLEN escribi:
Estimados como puedo 
  
  - autentificar a traves de la MAC
los
accesos de usuarios remotos a mi servidor vpn?
  
  
  - cree un usuario en mi servidor
VPN
  
  adduser 
  
  passwd 
  
  
  Lado servidor VPN (*conf) 
  
  plugin
/usr/share/openvpn/plugin/lib/openvpn-auth-pam.so
login 
  
  
  Lado cliente VPN (agregue esta
linea
en el archivo *.conf del cliente remoto) 
  
  auth-user-pass
  
  
  pero no me esta funcionando,
cual
sera el procedimiento adecuado? 
  
  
  
  

  
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[CentOS-es] Problema con Repositorios Locales en Cento 5.5

2010-07-09 Thread Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez
estimados.
Les comento, en mi lugar de trabajo he creado un repositorio local de la
version 5.5 de centos (de Momento para la i386, pronto la x64).

todo funciona de maravillas excepto la sincronización con los servidores
RSYNC (aparentemente es por el proxy que ocurre esto pero no estoy muy
seguro)

he creado un scritp de sincronización pero me falla.

me da este error al ejecutarlo manualmente

[r...@centosrepo ~]# sh /root/update_repo.sh
rsync: failed to connect to mirrors.kernel.org: Connection refused (111)
rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(107)
[receiver=2.6.8]


el script contiene las siguientes lineas...



#!/bin/bash
rsync -at --delete
rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/updates/i386/RPMS/ /va$

if [ $(find /var/www/mirror/CentOS/5.5/updates/i386/RPMS/ -cmin -60 | wc
-l) -g$
   createrepo /var/www/mirror/CentOS/5.5/updates/i386/
fi


La consulta es si tengo bloqueado el RSYNC por el proxy, hay otra forma
atravez de http de sincronizar ?

desde ya muy agradecido por vuestra ayuda-..


Francisco Aravena Jimenez

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart from tagged VLAN?

2010-07-09 Thread Jeff Hefner
I've still been keeping this one simmering back burner and trying to
figure the workflow for getting a system up and running with minimal
user interaction. I do realize the PXE agents don't have any concept
of tagged vlans. The thought was more along the lines of having the
ability to specify a tagged VLAN id at the boot prompt when running an
install from the console using a CD or USB drive. (ie passing
arguments to the boot loader linux
ks=http://localwebserver/ks/server.ks ip=10.10.10.10
netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=10.10.10.1 dns=10.10.10.53)
My previously supplied link had a link to this article about Anaconda
being enhanced to support VLANs:

http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2009-0164.html

I've been experimenting with Spacewalk/Cobbler so this kind of extends
beyond just a  basic CentOS install but whether Cobbler is part of the
equation or not, the crux of the question is to verify if Anaconda has
direct support for VLANs. I've been out of the office since I
originally posted the question so I haven't had a chance to setup some
systems to verify it for myself yet. I was hoping this was something
someone else had previous setup something like this and could verify
whether it would work. I plan on taking some time to try this out
later today.

This is how I envision the workflow:

a switch interface has three VLANs setup

untagged 99 (Spacewalk/Cobbler/PXE/dhcp enabled subnet)
tagged 100 (main server subnet)
tagged 101 (backup network subnet)

Once the machine boots up it will get an dhcp provided IP from VLAN99.
Cobbler has added an PXE entry for that machine to tell it what
kickstart file to grab which it downloads via HTTP. Once that has been
downloaded and processed the kickstart file will have the two tagged
interfaces (ie eth0.100 and eth0.101) specified and from this point
forward it continues the rest of the install process through VLAN100
interface, eth0.100. After it finishes up it, the system reboots and
then no longer needs or uses the untagged VLAN.

One of the issues I'm trying to work around is I'm in an environment
when I don't have end to end control over everything. In order to get
an interface changed I have to rely on a different team to make the
change so if I need an interface reconfigured from untagged to tagged
or from VLAN abc to VLAN xyz, I have to wait on someone to do it for
me. So the logic is to have everything in place that I need from start
to finish. When it's all over then the temporary untagged interface
can be removed from the switch interface without disrupting the
configured and deployed system. Hope that all makes sense.

jeff
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Blake Hudson bl...@ispn.net wrote:
  Original Message  
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Kickstart from tagged VLAN?
 From: Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Date: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:33:45 AM
 Finnur Örn Guðmundsson wrote:

 On Cisco switches it would be called native vlan if i remember correctly:

 One way of doing it (if using Cisco :):

 interface GigabitEthernet0/1
   description nodeX
   switchport trunk native vlan 100
   switchport trunk allowed vlan 100,101
   switchport mode trunk
   spanning-tree portfast trunk
   spanning-tree bpdufilter enable
 end


 Doing it that way would force you to change all of your switches and hosts 
 that
 know about vlan 100 at once.  You might also add native (untagged) vlan 1 to 
 the
 existing tagged vlans - then you can set up a pxe-booting network on vlan 1 
 and
 once things are installed you can add the tagged vlan interfaces and 
 optionally
 remove the IP address from the untagged (base eth device) interface.

 No, these are per port settings and do not require coordinated changes
 to any other switches, switch ports, or hosts. With the proposed config,
 untagged data between the host and switch would be processed as VLAN 100
 - unbeknownst to the host. The host would have the base eth device setup
 without VLANs - this is VLAN 100. Any additional VLANs are setup as
 normal eth.vlanXX devices. As was said, this is just one way of doing
 things.

 Personally, I might propose that PXE setup be performed on a dedicated
 VLAN, once the server is setup it would then utilize a different set of
 VLANs for communication.

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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-09 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Thursday 08 July 2010, Seth Bardash wrote:
 To the Linux Community at Large:

 I reported to this list back in January, 2010 that the standard x86_64
 kernel, when built from the src.rpm and modified for AMD K8 / K10
 Extensions would not build. I reported this here and to Red Hat via
 Bugzilla ID number 558367. RH AS / Centos 5.3 worked fine. That was
 Centos 5.4 / Red Hat Enterprise AS 5 Update 4. Today we tried to
 optimize Red Hat Enterprise AS 5 Update 5. Same problem. At last check
 all kernels from 2.6.18-10 to 2.6.18-194 won't build with AMD specific
 optimizations.

Do you have any data to back up this position? (that optimizing the kernel for 
a specific processor is of any significant real world use)

...
 Now we are looking at the AMD G34 CPU's and are building some demo
 units. I think its time to benchmark these systems with the working -
 non optimized Red Hat / Centos Linux versus the optimized Opensuse /
 SLES Linux for standard server functions and publish them.

Too many (other) variables change you'd not be able to say that it had to do 
with the processor specific optimization of the kernel.

For this you'd need to benchmark the same dist but with optimized and 
non-optimized kernel.

Also, to impress me, the benchmark in question would have to be a relevant 
high level benchmark, not kernel micro benchmarks.

/Peter


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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-09 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Friday 09 July 2010, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 at 8:16pm, Whit Blauvelt wrote

  On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:35:47PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
  It has been stated many times and on many fora that Red Hat's bugzilla
  is not a mechanism for support.  They are under no obligation to address
  issues raised there.  Is it nice when they do?  Absolutely.
 
  There are two issues you're conflating here. The first, paramount one is:
  Is Red Hat taking responsibility for bugs people have taken the effort to
  accurately report to them? This is a measure of any software project,
  totally separate from the issue of whether and for what the project leads
  provide paid support. In particular, if they are marketing this software
  to anyone - even if the person kind enough to report the bug is not a
  paying customer - they have a responsibility _to their paying customers_
  to resolve all serious bugs in a timely manner - or at least to indicate
  in their bugzilla why they are rejecting fixing them.

 To be clear here, the bug in question is not present in any binaries
 that Red Hat ships.

To be fair, this is only true if you're refering to the fact that he could not 
recompile the kernel in a different way. If you consider the main bug to be 
that redhat doesn't provide the optimized kernel in the first place...

/Peter

 None of their paying customers will ever experience 
 this bug while running in a supported configuration.  It's a case of you
 broke it, you get to keep the pieces.


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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Lanny Marcus wrote:
 I had a corrupted installation of OpenOffice.org 3.1.

 When I used yum remove openoffice.org-core the response was package
 openoffice.org-core available but not installed, but then, when I
 used yum install openoffice.org-core there was a long list of
 Transaction Check Errors. I then removed
 openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus-noarch which was in the errors.

 Here's the first of those errors:
 Transaction Check Error:
file /usr/bin/soffice from install of
 openoffice.org-core-3.1.1-19.5.el5_5.1.i386 conflicts with file from
 package openoffice.org3.1-redhat-menus-3.1-9393.noarch

you are mixing two different sources for OO: some of your installed 
packages come from the OO website, and you are trying to yum install the 
centos version on top of that.
Either remove all traces of the non-centos rpms and then install with 
yum, or stick to the ooo rpms and don't install the centos ones.
Watch out for openoffice.org-ure if you choose the second solution, that 
particular rpm has the same name in both sources, but the version number 
is higher in centos so yum might try to update it - and wreck your OO 
install.
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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Lars Hecking
 
 echo 'exclude=openoffice.org-*'  /etc/yum.conf



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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 I had a corrupted installation of OpenOffice.org 3.1.
snip
 you are mixing two different sources for OO: some of your installed
 packages come from the OO website, and you are trying to yum install the
 centos version on top of that.
snip
Nicolas: Apparently, I have removed most of the original installation
of OO. What yum command(s) should I use, to remove any remaining
packages from that installation?

After I do that, I will install the CentOS version of OO.

Thank you, for your time and help!  Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Lars Hecking
lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
  echo 'exclude=openoffice.org-*'  /etc/yum.conf

Lars: Thank you!  Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
 nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 I had a corrupted installation of OpenOffice.org 3.1.
 snip
 you are mixing two different sources for OO: some of your installed
 packages come from the OO website, and you are trying to yum install the
 centos version on top of that.
 snip
 Nicolas: Apparently, I have removed most of the original installation
 of OO. What yum command(s) should I use, to remove any remaining
 packages from that installation?
snip
Nicolas: I haven't had enough coffee this morning and my first reply
asked about removing via yum.Apparently, the corrupted (partially
removed) installation of OO was not installed via yum.   Questions:
Where should I look for remnants of that installation? Do I need to do
that manually or are there yum or rpm commands I can use to remove the
remnants? TIA!  Lanny
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[CentOS] difference between stickybit SUID and SGID

2010-07-09 Thread Agnello George
i had a small query , whant is the difference between stickybit SUID and
SGID  , is there any proper site where i can get a clear understanding .


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Re: [CentOS] difference between stickybit SUID and SGID

2010-07-09 Thread Silviu Hutanu
Here are my personal notes regarding these special perms :

 Octal perm : 4000 (chmod +s )  SUID Other users execute this file as owner
of file
 Octal perm: 2000  (chmod +g )  GUID Other users execute this as group of
the file/dir  (It can be applyied to directories )
 Ocatl perm: 1000Sticky bit (Ensuring that users cannot delete other
users files in a directory)

SUID : chmod u+s file
GUID: chmod u+g dir
Sticky bit: chmod u+f file/dir


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On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Agnello George agnello.dso...@gmail.comwrote:

 i had a small query , whant is the difference between stickybit SUID and
 SGID  , is there any proper site where i can get a clear understanding .


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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Lars Hecking
 lheck...@users.sourceforge.net  wrote:
   echo 'exclude=openoffice.org-*'  /etc/yum.conf

 Lars: Thank you!  Lanny

Lars' advice is if you want to use the OO.org provided rpms (it tells 
yum to ignore the centos oo rpms, in particular it prevents yum from 
installing the openoffice.org-ure rpm and breaking your OO.org installed 
openoffice, as I mentioned).

In your other email you say you want to get rid of the OO.org version, 
and install the centos one. In this case you don't want to have that 
exclude line in yum.conf. It will prevent you from installing the centos 
version.
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Re: [CentOS] Networking just stopped working

2010-07-09 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:30:06 +0800 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 On Thursday, July 08, 2010 09:40 PM, JohnS wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 07:51 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
  I think some bridge or vlan scenarios require promiscuous mode (and the
  corresponding disabling of hardware acceleration).  Maybe the real issue 
  is that
 something accidentally disabled it and you now only work when tcpdump
  re-enables it.  I'm not sure how this is supposed to be managed atomically 
  when
  multiple programs may manipulate it and it needs to be propagated across
  multiple bonded nics, but maybe something went wrong there.  At least some
  things log the change so maybe you can get a hint about when it was turned 
  on
  and off.
  ---
 
  Check out /proc/net/bonding/bond/YOUR_BOND.  Make sure your slave IDs
  are the same as in aggregator ID.  If not it will cause the problem your
  having.  Bad NIC hardware also it's failing over for a reason as the log
  showed.
 
 
 They check out. What did help besides running tcpdump forever was to do 
 a 'service network restart'. That made the network behave. I wonder 
 what's going on...

Are there 'services' that the network 'depends' on, but which are are
started *later* then network?  Running 'service network restart' as a cure
suggests this.  Do you have any special or custom init scripts relating
to your bonding (maybe something that loads special kernel modules or
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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Lars Hecking
 lheck...@users.sourceforge.net  wrote:
   echo 'exclude=openoffice.org-*'  /etc/yum.conf

 Lars: Thank you!  Lanny

 Lars' advice is if you want to use the OO.org provided rpms (it tells
 yum to ignore the centos oo rpms, in particular it prevents yum from
 installing the openoffice.org-ure rpm and breaking your OO.org installed
 openoffice, as I mentioned).

 In your other email you say you want to get rid of the OO.org version,
 and install the centos one. In this case you don't want to have that
 exclude line in yum.conf. It will prevent you from installing the centos
 version.

I would like to remove any remnants of the OO org version and install
the CentOS version with yum. I believe I installed the CentOS version,
with yum, last night, without problems.

However, since I also removed that package for menus, there is nothing
in the Applications/Office menu for any of the OpenOffice.org
applications. How can I restore the ability to launch the applications
from the menu? Thank you, again, for your time and help!
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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Lanny Marcuslmmailingli...@gmail.com  wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
 nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr  wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 I had a corrupted installation of OpenOffice.org 3.1.
 snip
 you are mixing two different sources for OO: some of your installed
 packages come from the OO website, and you are trying to yum install the
 centos version on top of that.
 snip
 Nicolas: Apparently, I have removed most of the original installation
 of OO. What yum command(s) should I use, to remove any remaining
 packages from that installation?
 snip
 Nicolas: I haven't had enough coffee this morning and my first reply
 asked about removing via yum.Apparently, the corrupted (partially
 removed) installation of OO was not installed via yum.   Questions:
 Where should I look for remnants of that installation? Do I need to do
 that manually or are there yum or rpm commands I can use to remove the
 remnants? TIA!  Lanny

you should ba able to list all installed rpms from OO.org with this command:
rpm -qa | grep -P 'openoffice|ooobasis'

you then want to feed these packages to 'rpm -e' (erase, ie uninstall).

when you're clean of all openoffice packages, use yum to install the 
centos version.
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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-09 Thread Seth Bardash
On 7/8/2010 6:25 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 07/08/10 2:39 PM, Seth Bardash wrote:
 To the Linux Community at Large:

 I reported to this list back in January, 2010 that the standard x86_64
 kernel, when built from the src.rpm and modified for ...

 I don't understand how you think that this is a bug.  you modified
 something and it broke.   the provided redhat binary kernels work fine
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OK, There seems to be some confusion about my motives / objectives / 
point of view. Please let me clear those up and I apologize if my 
approach was askew or this answer is too long winded.

Lets start with why I posted:

I posted my observations ( and reported the bugs) so that anyone else 
running RH AS  5.3 or Centos that was trying to optimize their kernel 
for AMD CPU's would know there was a problem. A problem that Red Hat 
caused and has chosen not to address. That was the only reason I posted! 
To inform.

Red Hat takes a standard kernel and modifies it, extensively. The 
standard kernel.org kernel works fine and supports this function. What 
is standard and supported in a kernel is decided by kernel.org. What is 
standard and supported in a Red Hat kernel is decided by Red Hat. The 
standard binary is built with the Generic X84_64 option selected. Red 
Hat's source code also includes an AMD Opteron option and an Intel EM64T 
option. Since the changes made to Red Hat's kernel by Red Hat since 
kernel 2.6.18-9 have broken one of these options but not the other two 
options I thought it might be useful to Red Hat and the Centos community 
to know that the AMD option is broken. The Generic x86_64 option and the 
Intel option work and compile fine. I tested these also. This is a bug, 
not something I broke. If I broke it, I would feel an obligation to fix 
it. Red Hat made the changes to the kernel source that broke this option.

Next, I have only posted to this list over the past 5 years when I could 
report a problem I thought might be of interest or add, help fix or 
supply code for a work around, on an issue with RH Linux or Centos. So I 
think the comment about troll bait is out of line. Just my opinion, I 
could be wrong. :)

I don't expect RH to do anything except what is in Red Hat's interests.

This can be influenced (very slightly) by non-paying users, fully 
supported paying users and to some extent Systems Integrators (like my 
company) if they are listening and if, again, it is in Red Hat's interests.

As a business owner, I would want to know about a problem with my 
product, especially if it costs me customers or profit or future sales. 
That is why we supplied some of the early drivers for 3ware cards for 
the Centos 3 OS. Our customers needed them, we supplied them free of 
charge. We have done this many times for many different linux based 
systems.

I have received responses off this list that suggest that there are 
other people and organizations that indeed use optimized kernels in 
conjunction with RH AS and Centos. Some use a modified RH kernel, some 
use a newer standard kernel from kernel.org with options changed, some 
use the real-time extensions to the standard kernel. All of them have 
found that it provides better performance for THEIR applications. We 
have done similar work for many customers.

When we changed the kernel and break it, we fix it.

My intent was to inform and hear from people that had similar issues and 
to learn what they might have done to work around them. Not to cause a 
debate on business practices, criticize Red Hat or inflame the  Centos 
community.

Thanks for reading.

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Re: [CentOS] difference between stickybit SUID and SGID

2010-07-09 Thread Les Ault
On 07/09/10 08:03, Agnello George wrote:
 i had a small query , whant is the difference between stickybit SUID 
 and SGID  , is there any proper site where i can get a clear 
 understanding .


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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-09 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 at 8:32am, Seth Bardash wrote

 My intent was to inform and hear from people that had similar issues and
 to learn what they might have done to work around them. Not to cause a
 debate on business practices, criticize Red Hat or inflame the  Centos
 community.

I appreciate your clarification.  I think what got folks up in arms was an 
impression from your original email (from, e.g., the all caps bits and 
implications of them having gotten too big) that you were indeed 
criticizing RH.

And I'd still be interested (as in, genuinely curious, not skeptical) to 
hear what sorts of applications benefit from optimized kernels (HPC?  I/O 
intense?) and what kind of performance increases one can get.

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart from tagged VLAN?

2010-07-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/9/2010 1:32 AM, Jeff Hefner wrote:
 I've still been keeping this one simmering back burner and trying to
 figure the workflow for getting a system up and running with minimal
 user interaction. I do realize the PXE agents don't have any concept
 of tagged vlans. The thought was more along the lines of having the
 ability to specify a tagged VLAN id at the boot prompt when running an
 install from the console using a CD or USB drive. (ie passing
 arguments to the boot loader linux
 ks=http://localwebserver/ks/server.ks ip=10.10.10.10
 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=10.10.10.1 dns=10.10.10.53)
 My previously supplied link had a link to this article about Anaconda
 being enhanced to support VLANs:

 http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2009-0164.html

 I've been experimenting with Spacewalk/Cobbler so this kind of extends
 beyond just a  basic CentOS install but whether Cobbler is part of the
 equation or not, the crux of the question is to verify if Anaconda has
 direct support for VLANs. I've been out of the office since I
 originally posted the question so I haven't had a chance to setup some
 systems to verify it for myself yet. I was hoping this was something
 someone else had previous setup something like this and could verify
 whether it would work. I plan on taking some time to try this out
 later today.

 This is how I envision the workflow:

 a switch interface has three VLANs setup

 untagged 99 (Spacewalk/Cobbler/PXE/dhcp enabled subnet)
 tagged 100 (main server subnet)
 tagged 101 (backup network subnet)

 Once the machine boots up it will get an dhcp provided IP from VLAN99.
 Cobbler has added an PXE entry for that machine to tell it what
 kickstart file to grab which it downloads via HTTP. Once that has been
 downloaded and processed the kickstart file will have the two tagged
 interfaces (ie eth0.100 and eth0.101) specified and from this point
 forward it continues the rest of the install process through VLAN100
 interface, eth0.100. After it finishes up it, the system reboots and
 then no longer needs or uses the untagged VLAN.

 One of the issues I'm trying to work around is I'm in an environment
 when I don't have end to end control over everything. In order to get
 an interface changed I have to rely on a different team to make the
 change so if I need an interface reconfigured from untagged to tagged
 or from VLAN abc to VLAN xyz, I have to wait on someone to do it for
 me. So the logic is to have everything in place that I need from start
 to finish. When it's all over then the temporary untagged interface
 can be removed from the switch interface without disrupting the
 configured and deployed system. Hope that all makes sense.

Unless you expect the switch to enforce some security restrictions for 
you there's really no harm in leaving an extra untagged VLAN active on 
the port.  After you remove the IP address from the base eth? interface 
the host won't see it anyway (I suppose a few broadcasts would be 
handled by the NIC and then ignored...).   If you use native vlan 1 as I 
suggested earlier, it would connect to ports with default settings, 
which might or might not be a good thing, depending on the rest of your 
network, but that would let a dhcp/pxe boot server span everywhere with 
access disappearing once you configure the host interfaces.

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[CentOS] Configuring atrpms repo?

2010-07-09 Thread Jeff Layton
  Afternoon,

Sorry for being dense but I can seem to configure the repo for atrpms 
correctly. I've tried a few things and none of them seem to work so 
rather than embarrass myself in regard to yum repo configuration, can 
someone post the repo configuration?

TIA!

Jeff

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Re: [CentOS] Configuring atrpms repo?

2010-07-09 Thread Jeff Layton
  On 07/09/2010 02:17 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
Afternoon,

 Sorry for being dense but I can seem to configure the repo for atrpms

Oops - that should be can't instead of can :)

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Re: [CentOS] Configuring atrpms repo?

2010-07-09 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 07/09/2010 07:17 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
Afternoon,

 Sorry for being dense but I can seem to configure the repo for atrpms
 correctly. I've tried a few things and none of them seem to work so
 rather than embarrass myself in regard to yum repo configuration, can
 someone post the repo configuration?

 TIA!

 Jeff


As root:

# cd /etc/yum.repos.d/

create a file atrpm.repo with you favorite editor and put the following:

[atrpms]
name=CentOS $releasever - $basearch - ATrpms
baseurl=http://dl.atrpms.net/el$releasever-$basearch/atrpms/stable
gpgkey=http://ATrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms
gpgcheck=1


For more info: http://atrpms.net/install.html

I'm not using ATRpm so i can test it :(.

HTH
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Re: [CentOS] Configuring atrpms repo?

2010-07-09 Thread Jeff Layton
  On 07/09/2010 02:23 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
 On 07/09/2010 07:17 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
 Afternoon,

 Sorry for being dense but I can seem to configure the repo for atrpms
 correctly. I've tried a few things and none of them seem to work so
 rather than embarrass myself in regard to yum repo configuration, can
 someone post the repo configuration?
 As root:

 # cd /etc/yum.repos.d/

 create a file atrpm.repo with you favorite editor and put the following:

 [atrpms]
 name=CentOS $releasever - $basearch - ATrpms
 baseurl=http://dl.atrpms.net/el$releasever-$basearch/atrpms/stable
 gpgkey=http://ATrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms
 gpgcheck=1


 For more info: http://atrpms.net/install.html

 I'm not using ATRpm so i can test it :(.


Thanks! That worked (had a typo somewhere - I just used
your entry).

Jeff


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[CentOS] log

2010-07-09 Thread mj
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Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-09 Thread Drew
 And I'd still be interested (as in, genuinely curious, not skeptical) to
 hear what sorts of applications benefit from optimized kernels (HPC?  I/O
 intense?) and what kind of performance increases one can get.

I'd be interested as well. I can see HPC applications potentially
benefiting but what about real world applications? Web, Email,
Databases, App Servers, etc

I'm specifically curious about it as I spent some time in Gentoo Land
and optimized everything seemed to be the mantra. In my own experience
the *apparent* performance difference between a system compiled as
AMD optimal vs Standard x86-64 was minimal to the point of being
unnoticeable.



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[CentOS] vmware

2010-07-09 Thread mattias
How can vmware run more stable on centos and not on ubuntu?
I meen
Usb works fine on centos but not on ubuntu


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Re: [CentOS] vmware

2010-07-09 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 07/10/2010 12:59 AM, mattias wrote:
 How can vmware run more stable on centos and not on ubuntu?
 I meen
 Usb works fine on centos but not on ubuntu



I suppose that you mean VMware Workstation 7.1 / Player 3.1.

VMware officially supports their desktop products on RHEL 5.x, OpenSuSE, 
Ubuntu LTS.

If you're not using Ubuntu LTS then CentOS 5.x -which is binary 
compatible with RHEL 5.x- is more stable to run VMware's desktop products.

I'm not talking about VMware Server 2.x because VMware has abandoned it, 
although I use it on CentOS 5.5 with some workarounds.

HTH

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Re: [CentOS] vmware

2010-07-09 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 10.07.2010 01:59, schrieb mattias:

 How can vmware run more stable on centos and not on ubuntu?
 I meen
 Usb works fine on centos but not on ubuntu

VMware is a company, not a specific product.

One (CentOS) may be supprted, the other (Ubuntu) not.

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Re: [CentOS] OpenOffice.org 3.1 installation was corrupted-installed again, nothing in Applications/Office menu

2010-07-09 Thread Ross Walker
On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr 
wrote:

 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Lanny Marcuslmmailingli...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
 nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr  wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 I had a corrupted installation of OpenOffice.org 3.1.
 snip
 you are mixing two different sources for OO: some of your installed
 packages come from the OO website, and you are trying to yum install the
 centos version on top of that.
 snip
 Nicolas: Apparently, I have removed most of the original installation
 of OO. What yum command(s) should I use, to remove any remaining
 packages from that installation?
 snip
 Nicolas: I haven't had enough coffee this morning and my first reply
 asked about removing via yum.Apparently, the corrupted (partially
 removed) installation of OO was not installed via yum.   Questions:
 Where should I look for remnants of that installation? Do I need to do
 that manually or are there yum or rpm commands I can use to remove the
 remnants? TIA!  Lanny
 
 you should ba able to list all installed rpms from OO.org with this command:
 rpm -qa | grep -P 'openoffice|ooobasis'
 
 you then want to feed these packages to 'rpm -e' (erase, ie uninstall).
 
 when you're clean of all openoffice packages, use yum to install the 
 centos version.

You can use yum to remove what was manually installed via rpm.

# yum remove 'openoffice*'

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Re: [CentOS] vmware

2010-07-09 Thread Mark
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Athmane Madjoudj athma...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not talking about VMware Server 2.x because VMware has abandoned it,
 although I use it on CentOS 5.5 with some workarounds.


Can you expand on that?  Did they abandon VMWare Server altogether, or
just version 2?

I'm still using version 1.08, and it works fine, except that Win XP
SP3 won't Hibernate or Stand-by due to an incompatibility with one of
the VMWare drivers.  I was using the VMWare save machine state, but it
turns out that shutdown and reboot is faster

Let us know  :-)

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[CentOS] lm_sensors and Shuttle

2010-07-09 Thread listmail
Hi All,

I'm trying to get lm_sensors to work on a Shuttle with an AMD K10. The version
of lm_sensors in the main CentOS repo is 2.10.7, which is two years old now.
Support for the K10 was added about a year ago.

So, does anyone know if there are binaries available for more recent versions
of lm_sensors?

Also, if anyone has knowledge of the sensors layout for recent Shuttle AMD
motherboards, that would be very helpful. The sensors-detect script from
2.10.7 doesn't detect anything useful...

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] vmware

2010-07-09 Thread Les Mikesell
Mark wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Athmane Madjoudj athma...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not talking about VMware Server 2.x because VMware has abandoned it,
 although I use it on CentOS 5.5 with some workarounds.

 
 Can you expand on that?  Did they abandon VMWare Server altogether, or
 just version 2?

I think it is specific to RHEL/Centos.  Server 2.x was broken by an update to 
RHEL 5.x and neither RHEL nor VMware have done anything to fix it.  I don't 
think other supported distros were affected.

 I'm still using version 1.08, and it works fine, except that Win XP
 SP3 won't Hibernate or Stand-by due to an incompatibility with one of
 the VMWare drivers.  I was using the VMWare save machine state, but it
 turns out that shutdown and reboot is faster
 
 Let us know  :-)

I don't think anyone likes the web-based console in the 2.x series anyway.  I'd 
either stick with the 1.x version or load ESXi on the hardware and move your 
current OS to a guest.

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Re: [CentOS] vmware

2010-07-09 Thread Athmane Madjoudj

 Can you expand on that?  Did they abandon VMWare Server altogether, or
 just version 2?

 I'm still using version 1.08, and it works fine, except that Win XP
 SP3 won't Hibernate or Stand-by due to an incompatibility with one of
 the VMWare drivers.  I was using the VMWare save machine state, but it
 turns out that shutdown and reboot is faster

 Let us know  :-)


See: 
http://www.vmware.com/support/policies/lifecycle/general/index.html#policy_server

There was a discussions about this issue in the CentOS mailing list so 
try to see the archives.

Good luck!

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Re: [CentOS] vmware

2010-07-09 Thread Athmane Madjoudj

 I think it is specific to RHEL/Centos.  Server 2.x was broken by an update to
 RHEL 5.x and neither RHEL nor VMware have done anything to fix it.  I don't
 think other supported distros were affected.


There is also some unfixed security issues with 2.x.

 I don't think anyone likes the web-based console in the 2.x series anyway.  
 I'd
 either stick with the 1.x version or load ESXi on the hardware and move your
 current OS to a guest.


VMware ESXi doesn't support the same hardware as CentOS does.


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Re: [CentOS] lm_sensors and Shuttle

2010-07-09 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Friday 09 July 2010 21:37, listmail wrote:

 I'm trying to get lm_sensors to work on a Shuttle with an AMD K10.
 The version of lm_sensors in the main CentOS repo is 2.10.7, which is
 two years old now. Support for the K10 was added about a year ago.

 So, does anyone know if there are binaries available for more recent
 versions of lm_sensors?

The version at ElRepo works with my Phenom II:
http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el5/i386/RPMS/lm_sensors-2.10.8-2.el5.elrepo.i386.rpm

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Re: [CentOS] log

2010-07-09 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
Maybe the list doesn't accept attachments if that's what you have been sending.
Please try using something like pastebin.com and include the URL in your email.


On 7/10/10, mj m...@mjw.se wrote:
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