Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/03/2011 02:31 AM, Jim Woods wrote:
 I emailed you sometime last week off-list. I re-read the website
 version 2, next steps thread, tried to write an email in response,
 realized it was terribly too long, and figured I would edit the wiki
 pages or put up a couple of new ones.


The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with 
people.

- KB
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[CentOS-docs] Release Notes for CentOS 5.6

2011-04-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Hi,

this release has taken quite a long time (probably too long), but it is
nearing it's release (I think I already had this excuse once before).

Which means that it is Release Notes time! And that we're in need of
translators for the Release Notes!

http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6 is what's there
already, so if you want to translate these pages, go ahead.

If you haven't done any tranastions before (for us that is) and want to
help, make sure that you are on this page:
http://wiki.centos.org/TranslationGroup

To do that, just drop a mail here on the centos-docs mailing list :)

Cheers and thanks in advance,

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Release Notes for CentOS 5.6

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra...@centos.org wrote:

 If you haven't done any tranastions before (for us that is) and want to
 help, make sure that you are on this page:
 http://wiki.centos.org/TranslationGroup

Please note that not all translators are listed on that page.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Woods
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with
 people.

Are you serious?

You're telling me it's not acceptable procedure to create a wiki
page, say WebsiteVer2/WireFrame, where folks can post an image for the
website design, then discuss on the mailing list and point people to
that wiki page to look at?

I should post my existing website content review (not very short) just
to the mailing list? Not as a wiki page where others can edit and
adjust? A living document on the wiki and discussion on the mailing
list, that's unacceptable?

Now, I am going to guess this is a mis-understanding. That you thought
I was just going to post my email verbatim to the wiki. That is not
the case. All I wanted to do was create the starter pages like the
ones I mention above, then post to the mailing list and get the
discussion moving forward. It seemed inefficient to me to try and use
the mailing list for the collaborative work portion and not the wiki.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 4 April 2011 17:25, Jim Woods redkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with
 people.

 Are you serious?

 You're telling me it's not acceptable procedure to create a wiki
 page, say WebsiteVer2/WireFrame, where folks can post an image for the
 website design, then discuss on the mailing list and point people to
 that wiki page to look at?

 I should post my existing website content review (not very short) just
 to the mailing list? Not as a wiki page where others can edit and
 adjust? A living document on the wiki and discussion on the mailing
 list, that's unacceptable?

 Now, I am going to guess this is a mis-understanding. That you thought
 I was just going to post my email verbatim to the wiki. That is not
 the case. All I wanted to do was create the starter pages like the
 ones I mention above, then post to the mailing list and get the
 discussion moving forward. It seemed inefficient to me to try and use
 the mailing list for the collaborative work portion and not the wiki.

Do you have a home page, Jim?

If so, use that. If not, Ralph will create one for you, if asked.

Alan.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/2011 05:25 PM, Jim Woods wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Karanbir Singhmail-li...@karan.org  wrote:
 The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with
 people.
 Are you serious?

Absolutely!

 You're telling me it's not acceptable procedure to create a wiki
 page, say WebsiteVer2/WireFrame, where folks can post an image for the
 website design, then discuss on the mailing list and point people to
 that wiki page to look at?

I can imagine there will be a fair few ideas thrown around, so sticking 
with the list initially would be better. If not, a vcs instance to host 
such would be far better than putting it in the wiki.

 Now, I am going to guess this is a mis-understanding. That you thought
 I was just going to post my email verbatim to the wiki. That is not

That is what it sounded like...

 the case. All I wanted to do was create the starter pages like the
 ones I mention above, then post to the mailing list and get the
 discussion moving forward. It seemed inefficient to me to try and use
 the mailing list for the collaborative work portion and not the wiki.

The 'work part of the website ver2' is meant to take place in a 
development centric tool, like openatrium, rather than overloading what 
is essentially a flat-text target, ie the wiki.

As Alan pointed out, a good place to start might be under your username 
on the wiki.

- KB
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Woods
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 The 'work part of the website ver2' is meant to take place in a
 development centric tool, like openatrium, rather than overloading what
 is essentially a flat-text target, ie the wiki.

 As Alan pointed out, a good place to start might be under your username
 on the wiki.


Fair enough. Does the openatrium tool exist yet? Is that something
else that needs to get done before moving forward? I wouldn't have
made the wiki request, or assumed that was the correct place do this
work if I had known there were plans to use another tool.

Ralph, can you create a HomePage for me? I would like to use that to
place a review of the existing web content, and maybe put up a
wireframe to show how the frontpage would look.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/2011 06:04 PM, Jim Woods wrote:
 Fair enough. Does the openatrium tool exist yet? Is that something
 else that needs to get done before moving forward? I wouldn't have
 made the wiki request, or assumed that was the correct place do this
 work if I had known there were plans to use another tool.

Yes, its there. But looks to be a bit frozen out at the moment ( 
http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/websitever2/ is where its meant to show up 
); fwiw, its been 'evaluated', quite possible not 'decided' upon. Maybe 
a point for the meeting on Thursday!


 Ralph, can you create a HomePage for me? I would like to use that to
 place a review of the existing web content, and maybe put up a
 wireframe to show how the frontpage would look.

I think he did that already :)

also, it would be awesome if we can get a few options like this for the 
irc meeting on Thursday.

- KB

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Woods
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 Yes, its there. But looks to be a bit frozen out at the moment (
 http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/websitever2/ is where its meant to show up
 ); fwiw, its been 'evaluated', quite possible not 'decided' upon. Maybe
 a point for the meeting on Thursday!

Absolutely.


 Ralph, can you create a HomePage for me? I would like to use that to
 place a review of the existing web content, and maybe put up a
 wireframe to show how the frontpage would look.

 I think he did that already :)

I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
You are not allowed to view this page.


 also, it would be awesome if we can get a few options like this for the
 irc meeting on Thursday.

Agreed. I will try to get this up asap. I do plan on attending the meeting.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 4 April 2011 18:25, Jim Woods redkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:

 I think he did that already :)

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.

I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .

Ralph, KB, Russ -- something for you to do, please.

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[CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.

 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .

umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired, 
please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my 
mailspool already

-- Russ herrold
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:40 AM, R P Herrold herr...@centos.org wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.

 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .

 umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already

Here:

http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods

#acl JimWoods:reead,write,revert,delete Default

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 4 April 2011 18:40, R P Herrold herr...@centos.org wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.

 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .

 umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already

Oops, sorry Russ. And to compound things, I've just had a network disconnect!

Please correct the typo in the acl line for Jim's home page [1], explicitly:

s/reead/read/

and that should, I believe, solve the problem.

Alan.

[1] http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 04/04/2011 08:48 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:40 AM, R P Herroldherr...@centos.org  wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.
 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .
 umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already
 Here:

 http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods

 #acl JimWoods:reead,write,revert,delete Default

 Akemi
I used my supercow powers and fixed it .

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 04/04/2011 09:00 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
 On 04/04/2011 08:48 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:40 AM, R P Herroldherr...@centos.org   wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.
 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .
 umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already
 Here:

 http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods

 #acl JimWoods:reead,write,revert,delete Default

 Akemi
 I used my supercow powers and fixed it .


Actually I wanted to by I am not allowed to. I am just an ordinary cow, 
sorry for the noise.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Manuel Wolfshant
wo...@nobugconsulting.ro wrote:
 On 04/04/2011 09:00 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
 On 04/04/2011 08:48 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:40 AM, R P Herroldherr...@centos.org   wrote:

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already
 Here:

 http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods

 #acl JimWoods:reead,write,revert,delete Default

 Akemi
 I used my supercow powers and fixed it .

 Actually I wanted to by I am not allowed to. I am just an ordinary cow,
 sorry for the noise.

You are a supercow. But we need a super-duper-cow here.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Woods
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are a supercow. But we need a super-duper-cow here.

I don't know who or what kind of cow did it, but I seem to be able to edit now.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Jim Woods redkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are a supercow. But we need a super-duper-cow here.

 I don't know who or what kind of cow did it, but I seem to be able to edit 
 now.

 Thanks,

It was done by a super-super-cow named KB. :-)

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Re: [CentOS-es] Copiar sin confirmación al reemplazar

2011-04-04 Thread Maykel Franco Hernandez


Gracias por la info, me ha ayudado mucho. 

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011
09:47:57 -0600, RenÃ(c) Lara Alvarado wrote: 

 Saludos Maykel
Franco.
 A mi me sucedio lo mismo cuando iniciaba.
 Depues hasta risa
me dió cuando conocí la solucion que aqui me lo 
 resolvieron!

Seguramente ya te contestaron, solo quiero agregar como a veces nos 

encerramos!
 Yo me pasé una tarde probando, pero mas que nada por la
necedad de pensar
 ¿como es posible que no pueda hacer un copy?
 

Te dejo mis notas de ese evento:
 
 Copiar un archivos sin confirmar
la sobre escritura usando comando yes.
 yes | cp -Rf *
/home/macropro/E_fe01
 (esta es una solucion desesperada pero
funciona!)
 
 En centos pide confirmacion porque por default hay un
alias:
 cp='cp -i'
 
 Para quitarlo:
 unalias cp
 unalias elimina
el alias de cp que pide confirmación
 
 Otra opcion para no eliminar
el alias es encerrar entre apóstrofes,
 esto usa el comando tal cual
sin alias, con la ventaja que el alias se
 mantiene para uso
posteriores
 Ej:
 'cp' archivo /haciadonde/archivo
 'cp' -rf
/RutaOrigen/* /RutaDestino/
 
 - Original Message - 
 From:
Maykel Franco Hernandez 
 To: centos 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29,
2011 5:14 AM
 Subject: [CentOS-es] Copiar sin confirmación al
reemplazar
 
 Hola muy buenas, estoy tratando de copiar unos archivos
actualizados
 a otro lugar donde no están actualizados y constantemente
me pide la
 confirmación dichosa.
 
 He probado con muchos atributos
para pasárselos
 al cp y nada...
 
 He hecho oun man cp y lo he leído
todo inclusive
 buscado en internet y no consigo hacer que no me pida
confirmación para
 reemplazar archivos.
 
 Hago un cp -aRf , cp -R
--force , cp -fr ... y
 nada, supuestamente con la opción -f no debería
de pedir
 confirmación...pero me la pide y si tengo que reemplazar
200.000
 archivos dandole a la tecla s... Lo podría hacer con el cp -Ru
lo que
 pasa que solo copia los ficheros que han sido modificados o
diferentes,
 no reemplaza.

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[CentOS-es] Fwd: Problema cluster al bootear

2011-04-04 Thread Maykel Franco Hernandez
 

Nadie puede hecharme un cable en esto??

Hola muy buenas, he seguido
el siguiente tutorial que está muy
bien:

http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-an-active-active-samba-ctdb-cluster-using-gfs-and-drbd-centos-5.5
[1]

El problema, es que cuando bootean los nodos, tiene puesto que en
el
archivo /etc/fstab de arranque, monte la partición /dev/drbd0
en
/clusterdata en ambos nodos y eso se ejecuta antes de sincronizar
las
particiones drbd y no se monta porque no existe en ése
momento...Podría
ejecutar un servicio antes que otro? Cómo puedo
solucionar esto? Es más,
aparte, que cuando reinicias uno de los nodos y
arranca ya no se
sincroniza y hay que repetir el proceso... 

Alguien me
puede ayudar?
Esto lo he montado en otros sistemas linux y se han
sincronizado
correctamente en el booteo. 

Un
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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema cluster al bootear

2011-04-04 Thread Maykel Franco Hernandez


Muchisimas gracias por contestar, tengo el runlevel 3 que lo edite en
/etc/inittab . 

Gracias, voy a probarlo y si tengo alguna duda la
comento. 

Un saludo. 

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:46:53 +0200, Oscar Osta
Pueyo wrote: 

 Hola,
 
 Podría ejecutar un servicio antes que
otro?
 Si, primero de todo es saber que runlevel tienes...desde consola
ejecuta # runlevel, devolverá algo parecido a N 3 o N 5. Una vez
sabes tu runlevel puedes ir a /etc/rc3.d o /etc/rc5.d, donde se
encuentran los enlaces a /etc/init.d. Los enlaces siguen la siguiente
nomenclatura Kxxscript Sxxscript donde: - K le envía la opción stop al
script. - S le envía la opción start al script. - xx son el orden de
ejecución en el proceso de boot. Asi que deberías localizar tu script y
cambiar el xx a un valor más alto. Con el tema del cluster con gfs y
drdb no puedo ayudarte mucho...pero puedes mirar los siguientes
documentos:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Suite_Overview/ [1]
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Administration/ [2] --
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[CentOS-es] Openfire Cambiar Active Directory

2011-04-04 Thread Azu Carlitox
Hola a todos. Tengo el siguiente problema:
Desde hace tiempo tengo instalado y configurado un servidor con openfire
sobre CentOS. El mismo valida los usuarios con un Active Directory que tengo
en la red. El problema se dio cuando cambie el servidor de Active Directory
por otro que tiene una ip diferete. Y el primero fue apagado. Entonces ahora
no puedo conectarme al openfire para que me valide a los mismos usuarios que
tengo en el otro servidor con active directory.
Lo que estoy necesitando es encontrar un lugar en openfire donde cambiar la
ip del viejo servidor active directory por el nuevo.
Alguno tiene idea donde puedo encontrar esto?
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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema cluster al bootear

2011-04-04 Thread Maykel Franco Hernandez


Alguien me puede ayudar con el tema de drbd?? Cada vez que arranca
siempre me suelta el mismo error... 

 block drbd0: Split-Brain detected
but unresolved, dropping connection! 

El famoso split brain, si fuera
una vez o alguna pues lo entendería pero siempre que configuro el drbd y
consigo ya tener las 2 particiones sincronizadas como primary/primary y
funcionando el servicio perfectamente, en cuanto reinivio otra vez lo
mismo... 

 block drbd0: Split-Brain detected but unresolved, dropping
connection! 

Lo tengo puesto con un cable cruzado para garantizar la
integridad de los datos y no saturar la red. Lo que no entiendo, porque
el mismo sistema funciona 100% en ubuntu server... 

Nadie tiene
experiencia en el tema del clúster que está muy a la orden del día??


Un saludo. Y gracias por anticipado, se aprende mucho en estas listas.


On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:46:53 +0200, Oscar Osta Pueyo wrote: 

 Hola,


 Podría ejecutar un servicio antes que otro?
 Si, primero de todo es
saber que runlevel tienes...desde consola ejecuta # runlevel,
devolverá algo parecido a N 3 o N 5. Una vez sabes tu runlevel
puedes ir a /etc/rc3.d o /etc/rc5.d, donde se encuentran los enlaces a
/etc/init.d. Los enlaces siguen la siguiente nomenclatura Kxxscript
Sxxscript donde: - K le envía la opción stop al script. - S le envía la
opción start al script. - xx son el orden de ejecución en el proceso de
boot. Asi que deberías localizar tu script y cambiar el xx a un valor
más alto. Con el tema del cluster con gfs y drdb no puedo ayudarte
mucho...pero puedes mirar los siguientes documentos:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Suite_Overview/ [1]
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Administration/ [2] --
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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema cluster al bootear

2011-04-04 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
publica el archivo de configuración del drbd

has puesto alguna condicion para manejar el split-brain? yo pongo una 
que indica que tome como saludable al más joven.

qué usas para manejar el heartbeat? debes ponerle ahi el orden de 
arranque de los servicios.

No arranques al drbd independientemente sino que lo arranque el sistema 
de heartbeat
saludos
epe


Maykel Franco Hernandez wrote:

 Alguien me puede ayudar con el tema de drbd?? Cada vez que arranca
 siempre me suelta el mismo error...

   block drbd0: Split-Brain detected
 but unresolved, dropping connection!

 El famoso split brain, si fuera
 una vez o alguna pues lo entendería pero siempre que configuro el drbd y
 consigo ya tener las 2 particiones sincronizadas como primary/primary y
 funcionando el servicio perfectamente, en cuanto reinivio otra vez lo
 mismo...

   block drbd0: Split-Brain detected but unresolved, dropping
 connection!

 Lo tengo puesto con un cable cruzado para garantizar la
 integridad de los datos y no saturar la red. Lo que no entiendo, porque
 el mismo sistema funciona 100% en ubuntu server...

 Nadie tiene
 experiencia en el tema del clúster que está muy a la orden del día??


 Un saludo. Y gracias por anticipado, se aprende mucho en estas listas.


 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:46:53 +0200, Oscar Osta Pueyo wrote:

 Hola,


 Podría ejecutar un servicio antes que otro?
 Si, primero de todo es
 saber que runlevel tienes...desde consola ejecuta # runlevel,
 devolverá algo parecido a N 3 o N 5. Una vez sabes tu runlevel
 puedes ir a /etc/rc3.d o /etc/rc5.d, donde se encuentran los enlaces a
 /etc/init.d. Los enlaces siguen la siguiente nomenclatura Kxxscript
 Sxxscript donde: - K le envía la opción stop al script. - S le envía la
 opción start al script. - xx son el orden de ejecución en el proceso de
 boot. Asi que deberías localizar tu script y cambiar el xx a un valor
 más alto. Con el tema del cluster con gfs y drdb no puedo ayudarte
 mucho...pero puedes mirar los siguientes documentos:
 http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Suite_Overview/ [1]
 http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Administration/ [2] --
 Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com [3]
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[CentOS-es] iptables + squid proxy transparente

2011-04-04 Thread Mario Villela Larraza
Hola amigos ya hace un muy buen rato que estoy batallando con un proxy que
quiero levantar pero no encuentro cual es el problema tengo un servidor con
la squid levantado y un script (que anexo en este correo) con un servidor de
DHCP pero no logro que las maquinas dentro de la red que pasarian por el
proxy obtengan señal de internet ya revise y revise la configuracion de mi
squid de echo ahorita no esta restringiendo nada, ya   tengo una lista ACL
que apara todas mis direcciones del squid pero aun asi no obtengo resultados
diferentes.

Así que acudo a ustedes para que me ayuden con este pequeño proyecto que
traigo en manos esperando que todos estén bien les mando un saludo y
agradesimentos de antemano.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema cluster al bootear

2011-04-04 Thread Maykel Franco Hernandez


Antes de nada muchas gracias por contestar e interesarte. Te pondría
los archivos de configuración ahora mismo pero no tengo los servidores
disponibles puesto que los tengo en otras dos máquinas, las cuales son
para pruebas. 

He seguido este tutorial pero me gustaría poner los
archivos, pero ahora mismo no tengo acceso:


http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-an-active-active-samba-ctdb-cluster-using-gfs-and-drbd-centos-5.5


En la pagina 2 viene todo referente a drbd y gfs. En cuanto a la
instalación que he realizado no tengo administrado el drbd con heartbeat
porque de momento estaba solo probando esa maqueta y luego finalmente le
iba añadir heartbeat para el tema de servicios y ip virtual(resources en
general). El split-brain es a veces común pero con el cable cross-over
parece que iba mejor pero en esta instalación no tiene efecto. 

En
cuanto tenga los servidores disponibles pongo los archivos de
configuración y dejo tambien puesta las ultimas 20 lineas del log de
/var/log/messages para ver el error que da cuando intenta sincronizar
las 2 particiones en red(raid1). 

Un saludo y gracias por el interes.


On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:08:02 -0500, Ing. Ernesto PÃ(c)rez EstÃ(c)vez
wrote: 

 publica el archivo de configuración del drbd
 
 has puesto
alguna condicion para manejar el split-brain? yo pongo una 
 que indica
que tome como saludable al más joven.
 
 qué usas para manejar el
heartbeat? debes ponerle ahi el orden de 
 arranque de los servicios.


 No arranques al drbd independientemente sino que lo arranque el
sistema 
 de heartbeat
 saludos
 epe
 
 Maykel Franco Hernandez
wrote:
 Alguien me puede ayudar con el tema de drbd?? Cada vez que
arranca siempre me suelta el mismo error... block drbd0: Split-Brain
detected but unresolved, dropping connection! El famoso split brain, si
fuera una vez o alguna pues lo entendería pero siempre que configuro el
drbd y consigo ya tener las 2 particiones sincronizadas como
primary/primary y funcionando el servicio perfectamente, en cuanto
reinivio otra vez lo mismo... block drbd0: Split-Brain detected but
unresolved, dropping connection! Lo tengo puesto con un cable cruzado
para garantizar la integridad de los datos y no saturar la red. Lo que
no entiendo, porque el mismo sistema funciona 100% en ubuntu server...
Nadie tiene experiencia en el tema del clúster que está muy a la orden
del día?? Un saludo. Y gracias por anticipado, se aprende mucho en estas
listas. On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:46:53 +0200, Oscar Osta Pueyo wrote: 


 Hola,
 
 Podría ejecutar un servicio antes que otro?
 Si,
primero de todo es
 saber que runlevel tienes...desde consola ejecuta
# runlevel, devolverá algo parecido a N 3 o N 5. Una vez sabes tu
runlevel puedes ir a /etc/rc3.d o /etc/rc5.d, donde se encuentran los
enlaces a /etc/init.d. Los enlaces siguen la siguiente nomenclatura
Kxxscript Sxxscript donde: - K le envía la opción stop al script. - S le
envía la opción start al script. - xx son el orden de ejecución en el
proceso de boot. Asi que deberías localizar tu script y cambiar el xx a
un valor más alto. Con el tema del cluster con gfs y drdb no puedo
ayudarte mucho...pero puedes mirar los siguientes documentos:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Suite_Overview/ [1] [1]
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Administration/ [2] [2] --
Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com [3] [3] _kiakli_ Links: --
[1] http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Suite_Overview/ [4]
[2] http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Cluster_Administration/ [5]
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Re: [CentOS-es] iptables + squid proxy transparente

2011-04-04 Thread Ramón Macías Zamora
No llegó el adjunto :(
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El 4 de abril de 2011 16:35, Mario Villela Larraza 
mario.villelalarr...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola amigos ya hace un muy buen rato que estoy batallando con un proxy que
 quiero levantar pero no encuentro cual es el problema tengo un servidor con
 la squid levantado y un script (que anexo en este correo) con un servidor
 de
 DHCP pero no logro que las maquinas dentro de la red que pasarian por el
 proxy obtengan señal de internet ya revise y revise la configuracion de mi
 squid de echo ahorita no esta restringiendo nada, ya   tengo una lista ACL
 que apara todas mis direcciones del squid pero aun asi no obtengo
 resultados
 diferentes.

 Así que acudo a ustedes para que me ayuden con este pequeño proyecto que
 traigo en manos esperando que todos estén bien les mando un saludo y
 agradesimentos de antemano.

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Re: [CentOS-es] iptables + squid proxy transparente

2011-04-04 Thread Mario Villela Larraza
ahora si aquí esta el archivo adjunto perdón :s

El 4 de abril de 2011 19:37, Ramón Macías Zamora 
ramon.mac...@raykasolutions.com escribió:

 No llegó el adjunto :(
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 El 4 de abril de 2011 16:35, Mario Villela Larraza 
 mario.villelalarr...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola amigos ya hace un muy buen rato que estoy batallando con un proxy que
 quiero levantar pero no encuentro cual es el problema tengo un servidor
 con
 la squid levantado y un script (que anexo en este correo) con un servidor
 de
 DHCP pero no logro que las maquinas dentro de la red que pasarian por el
 proxy obtengan señal de internet ya revise y revise la configuracion de mi
 squid de echo ahorita no esta restringiendo nada, ya   tengo una lista ACL
 que apara todas mis direcciones del squid pero aun asi no obtengo
 resultados
 diferentes.

 Así que acudo a ustedes para que me ayuden con este pequeño proyecto que
 traigo en manos esperando que todos estén bien les mando un saludo y
 agradesimentos de antemano.

 --
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 Cel 0445512591926

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Re: [CentOS-es] iptables + squid proxy transparente

2011-04-04 Thread Ramón Macías Zamora
No llega, supongo que una restricción de la lista.

Podrías pegar el contenido
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El 4 de abril de 2011 19:55, Mario Villela Larraza 
mario.villelalarr...@gmail.com escribió:

 ahora si aquí esta el archivo adjunto perdón :s

 El 4 de abril de 2011 19:37, Ramón Macías Zamora 
 ramon.mac...@raykasolutions.com escribió:

  No llegó el adjunto :(
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  El 4 de abril de 2011 16:35, Mario Villela Larraza 
  mario.villelalarr...@gmail.com escribió:
 
  Hola amigos ya hace un muy buen rato que estoy batallando con un proxy
 que
  quiero levantar pero no encuentro cual es el problema tengo un servidor
  con
  la squid levantado y un script (que anexo en este correo) con un
 servidor
  de
  DHCP pero no logro que las maquinas dentro de la red que pasarian por el
  proxy obtengan señal de internet ya revise y revise la configuracion de
 mi
  squid de echo ahorita no esta restringiendo nada, ya   tengo una lista
 ACL
  que apara todas mis direcciones del squid pero aun asi no obtengo
  resultados
  diferentes.
 
  Así que acudo a ustedes para que me ayuden con este pequeño proyecto que
  traigo en manos esperando que todos estén bien les mando un saludo y
  agradesimentos de antemano.
 
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Re: [CentOS-es] iptables + squid proxy transparente

2011-04-04 Thread Ramón Macías Zamora
No veo nada raro,

en /etc/squid/squid.conf debe estar puesto:

http_port 3128 transparent

la palabra *transparent* es imprescindible
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El 4 de abril de 2011 20:06, Mario Villela Larraza 
mario.villelalarr...@gmail.com escribió:

  supongo que si ha de ser una restricción, pero bueno lo pego aquí para
 mas rápido jejeje


 #!/bin/bash
 #
 #
 # Para guardar las reglas
 #+ iptables-save  reglas
 #+ iptables-restore  reglas
 #

 # Miramos si tenemos un parametro en linea de comando
 if [ -n $1 ]  [ $1 = q ]
 then
  QUIET=1
 else
  QUIET=0
 fi

 # Registramos el inicio del firewall
 #FECHA=$(date +%C%y-%m-%d %H:%M)
 #echo $FECHA
 #/usr/bin/logger -p kern.notice  -t NETFILTER  \
 # == Iniciado Cortafuegos: $FECHA =

 # PARAMETRIZACION DEL SCRIPT
 ##
 ### Definimos constantes para usar en el
 ###+ script
 if [ $QUIET = 0 ]; then
  echo Cargando parametros...
 fi

 # Binario de iptables
 IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables

 # INTERFACES
 # eth1 - conectado a internet con IP FIJA
 EXT_IF=eth1
 EXT_IP=192.168.2.10
 # eth2 - conectado a LAN
 LAN_IF=eth2
 LAN_IP=10.0.0.1
 LAN_RED=10.0.0.0/24
 # lo - interfaz de loopback
 LOO_RED=127.0.0.0/8
 # cualquier red
 ANY_RED=0.0.0.0/0

 # MAQUINAS INTERNAS
 IP_SERVIDOR_FTP=10.0.0.12
 IP_SERVIDOR_WEB=10.0.0.13


 if [ $QUIET = 0 ]; then
  echo Cargando modulos...
 fi
 ##
 ### Nos aseguramos que tenemos cargados
 ###+ los modulos necesarios
 modprobe ip_conntrack_irc
 modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp
 modprobe ip_nat_irc
 modprobe ip_nat_ftp


 if [ $QUIET = 0 ]; then
  echo Limpiando FW...
 fi
 ##
 ### Limpiamos la configuracion existente

 # Limpiamos (flush) las reglas
 $IPTABLES -F
 # Borramos 'cadenas' de usuario
 $IPTABLES -X
 # Ponemos a cero paquetes y contadores
 $IPTABLES -Z
 # Limpiamos las reglas de NAT
 $IPTABLES -t nat -F
 # Borramos 'cadenas' de usuario de NAT
 $IPTABLES -t nat -X


 if [ $QUIET = 0 ]; then
  echo Estableciendo politicas...
 fi
 ##
 ### Establecemos las politicas por omision
 ###+ de las 'cadenas'

 # Por omision descartamos los paquetes
 $IPTABLES -P INPUT   ACCEPT
 $IPTABLES -P OUTPUT  ACCEPT
 $IPTABLES -P FORWARD ACCEPT
 # PREROUTING - NAT sobre la IP destino: normalmente desde inet hacia LAN
 # POSTROUTING - NAT sobre la IP origen: normalmente desde LAN hacia inet
 $IPTABLES -t nat -P PREROUTING   ACCEPT
 $IPTABLES -t nat -P POSTROUTING  ACCEPT

 # Relajamos la politica de salida
 #+ Dejamos salir paquetes de LAN_IP por LAN_IF
 $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $LAN_IF -s $LAN_IP -j ACCEPT
 #+ Dejamos salir paquetes de EXT_IP por EXT_IF
 $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $EXT_IF -s $EXT_IP -j ACCEPT



 if [ $QUIET = 0 ]; then
  echo - Denegacion de redes invalidas...
 fi
 ##
 # No admitimos desde el exterior redes locales (RFC 1918)
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s 192.168.0.0/16  -j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s 10.0.0.0/8  -j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s 172.16.0.0/12   -j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s 224.0.0.0/4 -j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s 240.0.0.0/5 -j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s $LOO_RED-j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s 0.0.0.0/8   -j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s 169.254.0.0/16  -j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s 255.255.255.255 -j DROP
 #$IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXT_IF -s $EXT_IP -j DROP
 # Desde el interior solo admitimos nuestra red LAN
 $IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $LAN_IF -s ! $LAN_RED  -j ACCEPT


 if [ $QUIET = 0 ]; then
  echo - Denegacion de broadcast de NetBIOS...
 fi
 ##
 # Bloquear paquetes broadcast de NetBios salientes
 iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --sport 137:139 -o $EXT_IF -j DROP
 iptables -A FORWARD -p udp --sport 137:139 -o $EXT_IF -j DROP
 iptables -A OUTPUT  -p tcp --sport 137:139 -o $EXT_IF -j DROP
 iptables -A OUTPUT  -p udp --sport 137:139 -o $EXT_IF -j DROP


 if [ $QUIET = 0 ]; then
  echo Activando NAT...
 fi
 ##
 # Activamos el bit de forward
 echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
 # Enmascaramos la salida de la LAN
 $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s $LAN_RED -o $EXT_IF -j MASQUERADE



 if [ $QUIET = 0 ]; then
  echo Accesos a la maquina local permitidos...
 fi
 ##
 ### Permitimos 

Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox
working

 I'm wondering if anyone running CentOS 5.5 has Shockwave on Firefox working.


I have made no attempt to watch longer videos with flash.  I do watch
3-5 minute music videos all the time, but I use mplayer for those (even
the FLV files I have downloaded from YouTube).

Is Shockwave the same thing as Flash? At least for Windows two separate
installers are needed.

AFAIK, Shockwave isn't available for anything but Windows and possibly Mac,
while a working Flash is available for most platforms.

Just to mention it, I've installed the 64b Adobe Flash preview release on CentOS
5.5 x64 and can now luxuriate in viewing Youtube from Linux. 8-]
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Re: [CentOS] question on software raid

2011-04-04 Thread Kay Diederichs
On 04/01/2011 05:32 PM, Jerry Geis wrote:
 dmesg is not reporting any issues.

 The /proc/mdstat looks fine.
 md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0]
  X blocks [2/2]  [UU]

 however /var/log/messages says:

 smartd[3392] Device /dev/sda 20 offline uncorrectable sectors

 The machine is running fine.. raid array looks good - what
 is up with smartd?

 THanks,

 Jerry

This means that you will be in trouble sooner or later.

Is there only sda1 on sda? If so, try

mdadm /dev/md0 --fail /dev/sda1
mdadm /dev/md0 --remove /dev/sda1
mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda1

which will end up overwriting the offline uncorrectable sectors. In most 
cases this fixes the disk. But you will have to monitor it carefully 
from now on.

HTH,

Kay

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Re: [CentOS] Is Centos 5.5 too old fro Google Chrome?

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Vnpenguin vnpeng...@vnoss.org wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 06:51, Todd Cary t...@aristesoftware.com wrote:
 I tried to install Google Chrome and received the dependencies
 error.  Is Centos too old for the new Chrome or is there an older
 Chrome version that is compatible?

 You need CentOS 6 or Fedora 14 to run Google Chrome :-)

Some people reported successful installation of Chrome on CentOS-5 in
this forum thread (see note #15):

https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23746

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Re: [CentOS] Download the repo DAG of CentOS 5.5

2011-04-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Fidel Dominguez-Valero wrote on Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:45:41 -0400:

 ok, could you help me to do that?

Is there anything you do not need help with?

Kai


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[CentOS] How to install wine ?

2011-04-04 Thread Rajan Dahal
Hello friends,

I have downloaded wine-1.3.13.tar.bz2

How  to install it ?

I have no internet connection. so I want to install it manually.

Thanks in advance.

Rajan
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Re: [CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-04 Thread John Hodrien
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011, Jay Leafey wrote:

 You COULD use option #1, but it requires some additional resources and a
 LOT of shuffling.

Why do you need to shuffle?

fdisk /dev/sda
delete the PV partition
create a new PV partition starting at the same sector but ending at the end of
the now larger disk.
write it out and reboot.  I forget whether the reboot is still necessary, but
I think fdisk will warn you it is if you've got mounted filesystems on that
disk.
pvresize /dev/sda1

Done.

I see no problem with #2 though.

jh
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Re: [CentOS] Is Centos 5.5 too old fro Google Chrome?

2011-04-04 Thread Cal Sawyer
Hi

I use the Chromium build from:

http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~cxs548/chrome

The highest Chromium rev you can run with the RHEL5.x flash-plugin 
chrome-10.0.612.0.tar.gz is v10.  chrome-11 is incompatible with 
flash-plugin-10.2.152.27-0.1.el5.rf.  Looks like 
flash-plugin_10.2.153.1-0.1.el5.rf is available now, so v11 might be OK.  It 
seems like the Chromium build leads flash-plugin by one version, but i haven't 
been actively upgrading as each becomes available.

- csawyer
 


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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of 
Akemi Yagi
Sent: 04 April 2011 10:00
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Is Centos 5.5 too old fro Google Chrome?

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Vnpenguin vnpeng...@vnoss.org wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 06:51, Todd Cary t...@aristesoftware.com wrote:
 I tried to install Google Chrome and received the dependencies
 error.  Is Centos too old for the new Chrome or is there an older
 Chrome version that is compatible?

 You need CentOS 6 or Fedora 14 to run Google Chrome :-)

Some people reported successful installation of Chrome on CentOS-5 in
this forum thread (see note #15):

https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23746

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Re: [CentOS] question on software raid

2011-04-04 Thread Jeremy Sanders
Scott Silva wrote:

 Could it be that the bad sectors so far have been in unused areas? Once a
 drive runs out of sectors to map corrections to, I would really think
 about replacing it.

This advice is so often repeated by people on lists. This is a pretty normal 
function of modern hard drives. The drive needs to reallocate the bad 
sectors. It does not mean that the drive is failing unless there have been a 
large number of sectors requiring reallocation or it keeps happening often.

Have a look at this to fix them for normal drives without raid:
http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html

Linux raid will rewrite the block if it is in the raided part of the disk. 
You can force a scrub doing this (md0 is the raid device).
 echo check  /sys/block/md0/md/sync_action
Check /proc/mdstat and dmesg for status.

You should be doing this weekly to identify bad blocks, so check your 
crontab.

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[CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread Rainer Traut
Hi,

to prevent scripted dictionary attacks to sshd
I applied those iptables rules:

-A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent 
--update --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --name SSH --rsource -j DROP
-A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent --set 
--name SSH --rsource

And this is part of logwatch:

sshd:
 Authentication Failures:
unknown (www.telkom.co.ke): 137 Time(s)
unknown (mkongwe.jambo.co.ke): 130 Time(s)
unknown (212.49.70.24): 107 Time(s)
root (195.191.250.101): 8 Time(s)

How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without 
establishing a new one?
Or have the scripts been adapted to this?

Thx
Rainer
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Re: [CentOS] How to install wine ?

2011-04-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/04/11 2:01 AM, Rajan Dahal wrote:
 Hello friends,

 I have downloaded wine-1.3.13.tar.bz2

 How  to install it ?

 I have no internet connection. so I want to install it manually.


thats probably the source tarball for Wine, and will need to be 
compiled.   doesn't it have a README and/or INSTALL file inside the tar ?

But, rather than compiling, there are RPM's for wine built for el4,5,6 
on rpmforge.


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Re: [CentOS] How to install wine ?

2011-04-04 Thread Dag Wieers
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 04/04/11 2:01 AM, Rajan Dahal wrote:

 I have downloaded wine-1.3.13.tar.bz2

 How  to install it ?

 I have no internet connection. so I want to install it manually.

 thats probably the source tarball for Wine, and will need to be
 compiled.   doesn't it have a README and/or INSTALL file inside the tar ?

 But, rather than compiling, there are RPM's for wine built for el4,5,6
 on rpmforge.

Beware that RPMforge contains the stable releases (1.2.2) and the RPMforge 
testing repository is at 1.3.7, but I am doing a 1.3.17 build right now.

Often the latest development release have a better success rate than the 
stable release, but if you are unsure, download both and test your 
use-case with both toroughly :)

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Re: [CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-04 Thread David Sommerseth
On 04/04/11 11:11, John Hodrien wrote:
 On Sat, 2 Apr 2011, Jay Leafey wrote:
 
 You COULD use option #1, but it requires some additional resources and a
 LOT of shuffling.
 
 Why do you need to shuffle?
 
 fdisk /dev/sda
 delete the PV partition
 create a new PV partition starting at the same sector but ending at the end of
 the now larger disk.
 write it out and reboot.  I forget whether the reboot is still necessary, but
 I think fdisk will warn you it is if you've got mounted filesystems on that
 disk.
 pvresize /dev/sda1

Reboot shouldn't be needed.  You might want to run partprobe though.

A fourth approach is to use pvmove, to move data off /dev/sda ... do the
fdisk stuff then pvcreate and add the PV into your VG again.  This however
requires that the existing PVs can hold all the data which was in the
/dev/sda device.


kind regards,

David Sommerseth

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Re: [CentOS] Is Centos 5.5 too old fro Google Chrome?

2011-04-04 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 09:51:14PM -0700, Todd Cary wrote:
 I tried to install Google Chrome and received the dependencies 
 error.  Is Centos too old for the new Chrome or is there an older 
 Chrome version that is compatible?

You can use this repo.  Made by someone on the forums, I
believe his name is Mr. Kamei, but I could be wrong about the name

He's made binaries that work. Chromium itself doesn't and won't support
CentOS/RH/OLE 5.5


# CentOS-Chromium.repo
#
# The mirror system uses the connecting IP address of the client and the
# update status of each mirror to pick mirrors that are updated to and
# geographically close to the client.  You should use this for CentOS updates
# unless you are manually picking other mirrors.
#
# If the mirrorlist= does not work for you, as a fall back you can try the 
# remarked out baseurl= line instead.
#
#

[chromium]
name=CentOS-5 - Custom Chromium kit from linux-powered.com
baseurl=ftp://ftp.linux-powered.com/CentOS/5.x/Chromium/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rk


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Re: [CentOS] Download the repo DAG of CentOS 5.5

2011-04-04 Thread David Sommerseth
On 03/04/11 20:45, Fidel Dominguez-Valero wrote:
 ok, could you help me to do that?

[root@server ~]# man reposync


kind regards,

David Sommerseth

 On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 21:36 +0300, Eero Volotinen wrote:
 2011/4/3 Fidel Dominguez-Valero fdval...@gmail.com:
 Yes, I know that, but I want to download for make a local repository

 just use reposync to mirror it to local repository.

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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread David Sommerseth
On 04/04/11 11:18, Rainer Traut wrote:
 Hi,
 
 to prevent scripted dictionary attacks to sshd
 I applied those iptables rules:
 
 -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent 
 --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --name SSH --rsource -j DROP
 -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent --set 
 --name SSH --rsource
 
 And this is part of logwatch:
 
 sshd:
  Authentication Failures:
 unknown (www.telkom.co.ke): 137 Time(s)
 unknown (mkongwe.jambo.co.ke): 130 Time(s)
 unknown (212.49.70.24): 107 Time(s)
 root (195.191.250.101): 8 Time(s)
 
 How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
 Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without 
 establishing a new one?
 Or have the scripts been adapted to this?

This is just a hunch, but --seconds 60 indicates that it will only look
back one minute to check if it could find a hit.  So if the attacker tries
to connect again after 2 minutes or even 61 seconds, it won't trigger this
rule.  Try increasing this value to 3600 (1 hour).  Maybe you want even longer.


kind regards,

David Sommerseth

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Re: [CentOS] How to install wine ?

2011-04-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/04/11 2:41 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
 Beware that RPMforge contains the stable releases (1.2.2) and the RPMforge
 testing repository is at 1.3.7, but I am doing a 1.3.17 build right now.

 Often the latest development release have a better success rate than the
 stable release, but if you are unsure, download both and test your
 use-case with both toroughly :)


what are these? http://packages.sw.be/wine/


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Re: [CentOS] How to install wine ?

2011-04-04 Thread Kevin Thorpe
Personally I seem to get the best results by installing it orally [?]
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Re: [CentOS] FLISOL 2011

2011-04-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Can you please stop this?

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
That's what I called tricky ;-)
As I do not need one big partition but a lot of smaller ones (for VMs) 
I've now just added another pv and volume group. This way I can decide on 
which one a new volume goes. In case I ever need to I can still merge 
them.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread Marian Marinov
On Monday 04 April 2011 12:18:43 Rainer Traut wrote:
 Hi,
 
 to prevent scripted dictionary attacks to sshd
 I applied those iptables rules:
 
 -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent
 --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --name SSH --rsource -j DROP
 -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent --set
 --name SSH --rsource
 
 And this is part of logwatch:
 
 sshd:
  Authentication Failures:
 unknown (www.telkom.co.ke): 137 Time(s)
 unknown (mkongwe.jambo.co.ke): 130 Time(s)
 unknown (212.49.70.24): 107 Time(s)
 root (195.191.250.101): 8 Time(s)
 
 How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
 Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without
 establishing a new one?
 Or have the scripts been adapted to this?

The attackers are not trying constantly.. Just a few bursts of trys.

Look at denyhosts ( http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ ). 
I also have a tool for protecting from brute force attacks called Hawk ( 
https://github.com/hackman/Hawk-IDS-IPS ).

Marian
 
 Thx
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[CentOS] Postgresql uses sockets - but I'd like to use TCP/IP

2011-04-04 Thread Timothy Kesten
Hi Folks,

CentOS 5.5 - Postgresql 8.4

Installed - startet

try to

 createuser -d- -a -p username 

get message

could not connect to server: Connection refused
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket /tmp/.s.PGSQL.0?

postrgesql.conf has line 

 listen_addresses = '192.168.0.2'

Why sockets (in /tmp are  s.PGSQL.5431 )

What goes wrong?

I have an other installation on other server with same conf. Files.
There works all as I expect (no socket).

Any hints welcome

Thx
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Re: [CentOS] Door not hitting me on my way out

2011-04-04 Thread Markus Falb
On 3.4.2011 23:57, Steve Clark wrote:

 Big issue I saw with Scientific Linux was a lack of commitment to long
 term support matching what RedHat and Centos provide.

This seems to be true.

https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/
https://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/

Assuming that CentOS is supporting as long as RedHat:

CentOS 5 until March 31, 2014
SL 5 until at least 2012-02-02

CentOS 6 until November 30, 2017
SL 6 until at least 2014-11-11

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Re: [CentOS] Postgresql uses sockets - but I'd like to use TCP/IP

2011-04-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/04/11 3:44 AM, Timothy Kesten wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 CentOS 5.5 - Postgresql 8.4

 Installed - startet

 try to

   createuser -d- -a -p username

 get message

   could not connect to server: Connection refused
   Is the server running locally and accepting
   connections on Unix domain socket /tmp/.s.PGSQL.0?

-p is the port number.you seem to have convinced it to use port 0 
which obviously isn't correct


if you want to use tcp, you would specify a hostname via -h


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Re: [CentOS] Door not hitting me on my way out

2011-04-04 Thread Steve Clark

On 04/04/2011 06:47 AM, Markus Falb wrote:

On 3.4.2011 23:57, Steve Clark wrote:


Big issue I saw with Scientific Linux was a lack of commitment to long
term support matching what RedHat and Centos provide.

This seems to be true.

https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/
https://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/

Assuming that CentOS is supporting as long as RedHat:

CentOS 5 until March 31, 2014
SL 5 until at least 2012-02-02

CentOS 6 until November 30, 2017
SL 6 until at least 2014-11-11
tp://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

From the Scientic WebPage

Minor Releases
Scientific Linux has plans to make a minor release based on each of the 
Enterprise Updates for the latest major release. Minor releases for the older 
major releases will occur much less frequently. So for the Scientific Linux 
3.0.x line, we will make minor releases for each Enterprise Update, until 
Scientific Linux 4.0.x is released. We will then make the 4.0.x minor releases 
for each of the Enterprise 4 Updates, and only occasionally create a minor 
release for the 3.0.x line.
The minor releases will be named according to their corresponding update 
release. Hence, Scientific Linux 3.0.1 corresponded with Update 1, 3.0.2 will 
correspond with Update 2.
The minor releases will also be a time for the installer to be enhanced, 
programs to be added or removed, and other minor tweeking.
Administrators should be able to use yum or apt to get from one minor release 
to another, without much hassle.


I read this  as not being keeping up with minor releases.



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Re: [CentOS] Door not hitting me on my way out

2011-04-04 Thread Mister IT Guru
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 10:31 +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, John R Pierce wrote:
 
  On 04/01/11 6:54 PM, Digimer wrote:
 
  I would not fault someone for moving on, but I would when said person
  does so in a manner that only leads to unhelpful drama.
 
  yeah, seriously.  call the WHAHmbulance.
 
 I don't see how this is helpful either. But that's the problem, there's 
 no way anyone can help the releases moving forward... Good luck waiting :)
 


Okay, so Nico is a bit upset. I can't say I blame him - But he did raise
a point and make me think about something. Now, if I'm wrong, flame the
crap out of me, I have very good filter-foo !

The one thing I would love to be able to contribute my time to is
helping test new code, and get it out the door so guys on the street can
test it out.

Maybe it's my curiosity, but my brain tells me that Fedora is the
forerunner for RHEL. And the Fedora code is out there. CentOS is built
from the RHEL code, with all RHEL specific items removed. Ergo - If I
replicate the build environment on some of my machines, (KVM and XEN
both running riot all over my systems, but not doing anything useful for
me! :( ), then surley I should be able to get some postive results, and
be able to contrib that back to the guys upstream.

That's what my brain tells me. I don't mind running build environments,
or test environments or whatever - I guess what I'm saying is GIMME SOME
OF YOUR WORKLOAD!!

Or at least make it easy for other bored sysads to help you out. All
this spare processing power and capable guys and girls eager to support
our distro of choice to get the best bleeding edge stable code. It's
almost like following a football team! How DARE debian get ahead of us!
Gentoo!? Who the bleeding hell do you think you are!? Don't you know
CENTOS is in the HOUSE!?

*calms down*
Excuse my excitement. I could edit this email before I hit send, but
then you guys wouldn't really know how I feel towards CentOS. How can
the average guy get involved with testing, can we build the same
environments as you guys? Do you have a standard way of operating that
maybe some of us could learn, and contribute? Is it out there already
out there and documented? How can we get our hands dirty?



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Re: [CentOS] Solved - Postgresql uses sockets - but I'd like to use TCP/IP

2011-04-04 Thread Timothy Kesten
Am Montag, 4. April 2011 13:00 schrieb John R Pierce:
 On 04/04/11 3:44 AM, Timothy Kesten wrote:
  Hi Folks,
 
  CentOS 5.5 - Postgresql 8.4
 
  Installed - startet
 
  try to
 
createuser -d- -a -p username
 
  get message
 
  could not connect to server: Connection refused
  Is the server running locally and accepting
  connections on Unix domain socket /tmp/.s.PGSQL.0?

 -p is the port number.you seem to have convinced it to use port 0
 which obviously isn't correct


 if you want to use tcp, you would specify a hostname via -h

thought the -p option is for password.

But problem is solved: reinstalled Postgresql - now it works like it should

Thx
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Re: [CentOS] Solved - Postgresql uses sockets - but I'd like to use TCP/IP

2011-04-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/04/11 4:25 AM, Timothy Kesten wrote:
 thought the -p option is for password.

thats -P as in big P.

 But problem is solved: reinstalled Postgresql - now it works like it should

say huh?   seems kinda over the top for a minor usage error.


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Re: [CentOS] How to install wine ?

2011-04-04 Thread Dag Wieers
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 04/04/11 2:41 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
 Beware that RPMforge contains the stable releases (1.2.2) and the RPMforge
 testing repository is at 1.3.7, but I am doing a 1.3.17 build right now.

 Often the latest development release have a better success rate than the
 stable release, but if you are unsure, download both and test your
 use-case with both toroughly :)

 what are these? http://packages.sw.be/wine/

That is an overview of all packages from all repositories.

The filename gives away what repository they are from:

.rf. is rpmforge
.rfx. is rpmforge-extras
.rft. is rpmforge-testing
.rfb. is rpmforge-buildtools

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Re: [CentOS] Solved - Postgresql uses sockets - but I'd like to use TCP/IP

2011-04-04 Thread Timothy Kesten
Am Montag, 4. April 2011 13:30 schrieb John R Pierce:
  But problem is solved: reinstalled Postgresql - now it works like it
  should

 say huh?   seems kinda over the top for a minor usage error.
Maybe a little missconfiguration - overlooked by me :-)

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[CentOS] about:plugins -Re: interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread ken
On 04/04/2011 02:46 AM Sorin Srbu wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
 Of Robert Heller
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:25 AM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Cc: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox
 working

 I'm wondering if anyone running CentOS 5.5 has Shockwave on Firefox working.

 I have made no attempt to watch longer videos with flash.  I do watch
 3-5 minute music videos all the time, but I use mplayer for those (even
 the FLV files I have downloaded from YouTube).
 
 Is Shockwave the same thing as Flash? At least for Windows two separate
 installers are needed.

In Firefox click Tools/Addons/Plugins.  What do you see listed there?

Alternatively, perhaps better, you can type about:plugins (without
quotes) in the Firefox address bar.

Under Tools... I have Adobe Reader 9.3, Adobe Reader 9.4
(temporarily disabled due to testing), Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2
Plug-in Compatible, NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.3.0, and Shockwave Flash
10 0 r153, that's all.

Now looking at about:plugins under Shockwave Flash it says:

File: nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so
Version:
Shockwave Flash 10.2 r153

So to your question, the evidence seems to be saying that, yes,
Shockwave is the same as Flash, at least on Linux.  Or do you see
something different?


 
 AFAIK, Shockwave isn't available for anything but Windows and possibly Mac,
 while a working Flash is available for most platforms.
 
 Just to mention it, I've installed the 64b Adobe Flash preview release on 
 CentOS
 5.5 x64 and can now luxuriate in viewing Youtube from Linux. 8-]

I've been able to play some Youtube stuff... sometimes it doesn't play--
for what reason, I haven't been able to see.  (?)

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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread ken
On 04/03/2011 08:06 PM Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
 On Sunday 03 April 2011 18:41, ken wrote:
 
 For a long time now I've wanted to be able to watch videos.  I've
 done the try this! and try that! method and it hasn't worked
 well.  So I'm wondering if anyone running CentOS 5.5 has Shockwave on
 Firefox working.
 
 Are you perhaps confusing Shockwave and Flash? Most videos on the Web 
 are in Flash format. Simply install flash-plugin, available on 
 RPMForge, http://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge

Yves,

What does your about:plugins page say?  (For explication, see the
about:plugins subthread.)  Or do you have some other diagnostic which
indicates these are not the same?

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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread Nikolaiczyk Martin
Hi,
maybe this is not really helpful for you.
But maybe you want try fedora linux for websurfing. 
Its also RHEL based.
I don't know why  you need a webbrowser on an enterprise linux.
For me is links or lynks enough on CentOS ;-)

Best regards,



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Betreff: Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox 
working

On 04/03/2011 08:06 PM Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
 On Sunday 03 April 2011 18:41, ken wrote:
 
 For a long time now I've wanted to be able to watch videos.  I've 
 done the try this! and try that! method and it hasn't worked 
 well.  So I'm wondering if anyone running CentOS 5.5 has Shockwave on 
 Firefox working.
 
 Are you perhaps confusing Shockwave and Flash? Most videos on the Web 
 are in Flash format. Simply install flash-plugin, available on 
 RPMForge, http://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge

Yves,

What does your about:plugins page say?  (For explication, see the 
about:plugins subthread.)  Or do you have some other diagnostic which indicates 
these are not the same?

Thanks.
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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Monday 04 April 2011 08:09, ken wrote:

 What does your about:plugins page say?  (For explication, see the
 about:plugins subthread.)  Or do you have some other diagnostic which
 indicates these are not the same?

It does say Shockwave Flash. Now isn't that interesting, because Adobe 
itself says they're different things. In the download section at 
http://www.adobe.com/products/ , they're listed separately and, as 
Sorin pointed out, Shockwave isn't even available for Linux.

Anyway, did you download Flash for Linux at 
http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer ?

Regards,

-- 
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Re: [CentOS] about:plugins -Re: interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of ken
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:02 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] about:plugins -Re: interview request for ppl who have
Shockwave/.Firefox working

Under Tools... I have Adobe Reader 9.3, Adobe Reader 9.4
(temporarily disabled due to testing), Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2
Plug-in Compatible, NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.3.0, and Shockwave Flash
10 0 r153, that's all.

Now looking at about:plugins under Shockwave Flash it says:

File: nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so
Version:
Shockwave Flash 10.2 r153

So to your question, the evidence seems to be saying that, yes,
Shockwave is the same as Flash, at least on Linux.  Or do you see
something different?

Well, kinda' different over here, at least on Firefox4 running on WinXP.

Shockwave Flash
File: NPSWF32.dll
Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152

Shockwave for Director
File: np32dsw.dll
Adobe Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 11.5.8.612

Some differences are expected I guess, platform-wise. Just wasn't sure if 
Shockwave and Flash were the same thing. Will be quiet now. 8-)
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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Yves Bellefeuille
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:38 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox
working

Anyway, did you download Flash for Linux at
http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer ?

Who, me?

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Re: [CentOS] FLISOL 2011

2011-04-04 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 Hello dear friends
 Anyone know if in the U.S is going to organize the FLISOL? Especially
 in the state of Michigan.

Perhaps if Michigan moves south of the border...

For those of us who don't know FLISOL from Lysol (which includes me)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLISOL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Libre

So CentOS should be mentioned at a FLISOL meeting, and should be
discussed on FLISOL mailing lists, but FLISOL doesn't merit discussion
here (nor does Michigan).

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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread ken
On 04/03/2011 09:24 PM Robert Heller wrote:
 At Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:41:35 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:
 
 For a long time now I've wanted to be able to watch videos.  I've done
 the try this! and try that! method and it hasn't worked well.  So
 I'm wondering if anyone running CentOS 5.5 has Shockwave on Firefox working.

 Currently it works for me with short videos-- up to two or three minutes
 long.  However, when Shockwave is enabled, CPU usage jumps to 99%,
 sometimes even 100%!  If I disable it CPU usage goes down to 1 - 5%.
 (For those who speak load avg, I've seen highs of 6 and 8... as opposed
 to the no Shockwave-now of 0.14 to 0.45.)

 So with the CPU already buried just by having Shockwave is enabled, if a
 video lasts longer than four minutes, gaps in the video's continuity
 begin to appear, and by ten minutes in the video is locked up altogether.

 What's everyone else's experience with this?  Does anyone have a setup
 where they can view a 1.5-hour video normally... and maybe even work in
 their editor alongside it at the same time?  If so, would you be open to
 explaining what hardware and software etc. you've got so that this works
 so well?
 
 I am able to watch 1/2 hour TV shows with
 flash-plugin-10.2.152.27-release from Adobe's repo in Firefox
 (firefox-3.6.13-2.el5.centos), on my i686 IBM ThinkPad X31 laptop
 (which has 512Meg of memory and a 1700MHz, Pentium M processor), using
 CentOS 5.5.  The CPU does get hot (the fan fires up sometimes). Oh, I
 use a *very* lightweight X11 setup: I don't use GNome or KDE or any
 sort of 'Desktop Manager' system at all. Just FVWM in MWM mode.
 Virtually NO 'eye candy' at all.  My system boots to runlevel 3 and
 I fire up X11 from my login.
 
 I have made no attempt to watch longer videos with flash.  I do watch
 3-5 minute music videos all the time, but I use mplayer for those (even
 the FLV files I have downloaded from YouTube).

Robert, you bring up a good point about X.  But two things:  First, my
Dell i600m has the same CPU as your machine, except that mine is a
1500MHz, a tad slower, but I have 2G of RAM and so swap is almost never
even touched.  Still, since it's my CPU which is getting jammed up by
Flash|Shockwave, perhaps measures to ease the load on the CPU generally
would be a good strategy.

Secondly, still, as said previously, when Shockwave isn't playing a
video (but with gnome and everything else running as usual), my CPU's
load avg is trivial, giving me no reason to suspect gnome or anything
else I'm running is a hog worth trimming.  All indications point to
Shockwave itself as being the problem.

NB: While writing this, yum-updated just gave me
flash-plugin-10.2.153.1-0.1.el5.rf.i386.rpm.  So I've upgraded from
flash-plugin-10.2.153.1-release.src.rpm...  hopefully it's the fix I need.


Robert, thanks for the response.
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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread ken
On 04/04/2011 08:37 AM Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
 On Monday 04 April 2011 08:09, ken wrote:
 
 What does your about:plugins page say?  (For explication, see the
 about:plugins subthread.)  Or do you have some other diagnostic which
 indicates these are not the same?
 
 It does say Shockwave Flash. Now isn't that interesting, because Adobe 
 itself says they're different things. In the download section at 
 http://www.adobe.com/products/ , they're listed separately and, as 
 Sorin pointed out, Shockwave isn't even available for Linux.

Perhaps the adobe webpage is a bit incomplete, or maybe they're talking
about the Windows plugins, I don't know.  I have to believe more what I
read on my system.


 
 Anyway, did you download Flash for Linux at 
 http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer ?

This kind of thing is not easy to remember.  Most of the time I assume
that, version numbers being the same, especially in the case of
commercial binaries, the packages will be the same regardless of where
they come from.



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Re: [CentOS] about:plugins -Re: interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread ken
On 04/04/2011 08:41 AM Sorin Srbu wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
 Of ken
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:02 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: [CentOS] about:plugins -Re: interview request for ppl who have
 Shockwave/.Firefox working

 Under Tools... I have Adobe Reader 9.3, Adobe Reader 9.4
 (temporarily disabled due to testing), Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2
 Plug-in Compatible, NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.3.0, and Shockwave Flash
 10 0 r153, that's all.

 Now looking at about:plugins under Shockwave Flash it says:

File: nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so
Version:
Shockwave Flash 10.2 r153

 So to your question, the evidence seems to be saying that, yes,
 Shockwave is the same as Flash, at least on Linux.  Or do you see
 something different?
 
 Well, kinda' different over here, at least on Firefox4 running on WinXP.
 
 Shockwave Flash
 File: NPSWF32.dll
 Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152
 
 Shockwave for Director
 File: np32dsw.dll
 Adobe Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 11.5.8.612
 
 Some differences are expected I guess, platform-wise. Just wasn't sure if 
 Shockwave and Flash were the same thing. Will be quiet now. 8-)

Well, this tells us that XP users are getting a higher version than us
Linux folks.  But we can't really get anything more than that from what
XP tells us... or?

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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 04.04.2011 12:34, schrieb Marian Marinov:
 How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
 Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without
 establishing a new one?
 Or have the scripts been adapted to this?

 The attackers are not trying constantly.. Just a few bursts of trys.

 Look at denyhosts ( http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ ).
 I also have a tool for protecting from brute force attacks called Hawk (
 https://github.com/hackman/Hawk-IDS-IPS ).

Ok, thanks to both of you, it seems the scripts getting better and better.
Will change my iptables rule to keep the blacklist for longer.

Thx
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Re: [CentOS] Tips for motherboard with multiple PCI / PCI-e slots

2011-04-04 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I need to fit at least three NICs and I was looking for
 motherboard models that contain 3 or 4 CPI (or PCI-e) slots and works
 with CentOS. 

You can get 4 etherports on one card... 
For 17 examples:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=100010064%20
600013873IsNodeId=1bop=AndOrder=RATINGPageSize=20
How many of those work well with Linux (of whatever variety) I don't
know.  One board claiming RedHat compatibility with a loadable kernel
module is
http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-UG-I4.cfm 

Another article that might give fast, cheap, albeit old answers is
http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/hardware/quartet.html

Why do you need 3 network interface cards?  Would two NICs with 2
etherports each, or 1 4-port card meet your need?

 I had a problem in the past with some models that had a bug
 and did not work well with linux (ok with windows) so that's
 way I am asking this here.

Are you building a desktop/personal machine, or a server?
Are you picky about power/heat/noise factors of the Mobo?

Sorry about your 5 options being narrowed down to 30, but the question
asked was really imprecise.


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Re: [CentOS] Tips for motherboard with multiple PCI / PCI-e slots

2011-04-04 Thread robert mena
Hi Brunner,

I need four network interfaces.  This can be in one or multiple cards.

The problem is just what you've described : lack of info regarding the
compatibility/stability of such card under CentOS.

And since some of those dual/quad cards cost more than the motherboard
itself I can't afford to buy one just to find out that it does not work or
need an exotic driver that I need to recompile myself every time a new
kernel ships.

I'll have a look into those.

In this list I've read something about intel pro mt but it seems to be
discontinued from intel's site... (

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Brunner, Brian T.
bbrun...@gai-tronics.comwrote:

 centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I need to fit at least three NICs and I was looking for
  motherboard models that contain 3 or 4 CPI (or PCI-e) slots and works
  with CentOS.

 You can get 4 etherports on one card...
 For 17 examples:
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=100010064%20
 600013873IsNodeId=1bop=AndOrder=RATINGPageSize=20
 How many of those work well with Linux (of whatever variety) I don't
 know.  One board claiming RedHat compatibility with a loadable kernel
 module is
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-UG-I4.cfm

 Another article that might give fast, cheap, albeit old answers is
 http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/hardware/quartet.html

 Why do you need 3 network interface cards?  Would two NICs with 2
 etherports each, or 1 4-port card meet your need?

  I had a problem in the past with some models that had a bug
  and did not work well with linux (ok with windows) so that's
  way I am asking this here.

 Are you building a desktop/personal machine, or a server?
 Are you picky about power/heat/noise factors of the Mobo?

 Sorry about your 5 options being narrowed down to 30, but the question
 asked was really imprecise.


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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread henry ritzlmayr
Am Montag, den 04.04.2011, 15:07 +0200 schrieb Rainer Traut:
 Am 04.04.2011 12:34, schrieb Marian Marinov:
  How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
  Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without
  establishing a new one?
  Or have the scripts been adapted to this?
 
  The attackers are not trying constantly.. Just a few bursts of trys.
 
  Look at denyhosts ( http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ ).
  I also have a tool for protecting from brute force attacks called Hawk (
  https://github.com/hackman/Hawk-IDS-IPS ).
 
 Ok, thanks to both of you, it seems the scripts getting better and better.
 Will change my iptables rule to keep the blacklist for longer.
 
 Thx
 Rainer

Also check MaxAuthTries in /etc/ssh/sshd_config

Specifies the maximum number of authentication attempts permitted per
connection.

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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread ken
One other factor might be video hardware acceleration.  Of those who
have Shockwave working, are you also running VHA??

On 04/03/2011 06:41 PM ken wrote:
 For a long time now I've wanted to be able to watch videos.  I've done
 the try this! and try that! method and it hasn't worked well.  So
 I'm wondering if anyone running CentOS 5.5 has Shockwave on Firefox working.
 
 Currently it works for me with short videos-- up to two or three minutes
 long.  However, when Shockwave is enabled, CPU usage jumps to 99%,
 sometimes even 100%!  If I disable it CPU usage goes down to 1 - 5%.
 (For those who speak load avg, I've seen highs of 6 and 8... as opposed
 to the no Shockwave-now of 0.14 to 0.45.)
 
 So with the CPU already buried just by having Shockwave is enabled, if a
 video lasts longer than four minutes, gaps in the video's continuity
 begin to appear, and by ten minutes in the video is locked up altogether.
 
 What's everyone else's experience with this?  Does anyone have a setup
 where they can view a 1.5-hour video normally... and maybe even work in
 their editor alongside it at the same time?  If so, would you be open to
 explaining what hardware and software etc. you've got so that this works
 so well?
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-04 Thread Ross Walker
On Apr 2, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Dawid Horacy Golebiewski 
dawid.golebiew...@tu-harburg.de wrote:

 I pondered Solaris for some time, but as I do not intend to build the OS 
 from scratch and nexenta was to GUIed for me I started researching SME.
 What puzzled me is the theory and the practice: RAIDz is the best 
 solution from a theoretical standpoint (maximum features available) but 
 still raid 5,65+0 etc. are used. Why?

Raidz/2/3 isn't raid5/6, similar but not the same.

In ZFS you create vdevs, which can be individual disks, mirrors or raidzs. Then 
you create a pool out of multiple vdevs. The vdevs should be of the same size 
and type for performance and capacity planning reasons, but it's not a 
requirement. Currently you cannot add drives to a vdev, but you can add vdevs 
to a pool. IO written to a pool does round robin across the vdevs giving a 
raid0 type performance.

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Re: [CentOS] Tips for motherboard with multiple PCI / PCI-e slots

2011-04-04 Thread John Hodrien
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, robert mena wrote:

 Hi Brunner,

 I need four network interfaces.  This can be in one or multiple cards.

 The problem is just what you've described : lack of info regarding the
 compatibility/stability of such card under CentOS.

 And since some of those dual/quad cards cost more than the motherboard
 itself I can't afford to buy one just to find out that it does not work or
 need an exotic driver that I need to recompile myself every time a new
 kernel ships.

 I'll have a look into those.

 In this list I've read something about intel pro mt but it seems to be
 discontinued from intel's site... (

I bought an Intel 82576 Quad port PCIe board for use with CentOS 5.  Works
flawlessly with the igb driver out of the box with no fiddling.  Far from
cheap, but avoids the headaches I was getting from a Broadcom chipset.

jh
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Re: [CentOS] Is Centos 5.5 too old fro Google Chrome?

2011-04-04 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/04/2011 04:11 AM, Cal Sawyer wrote:
 Hi
 
 I use the Chromium build from:
 
 http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~cxs548/chrome
 
 The highest Chromium rev you can run with the RHEL5.x flash-plugin 
 chrome-10.0.612.0.tar.gz is v10.  chrome-11 is incompatible with 
 flash-plugin-10.2.152.27-0.1.el5.rf.  Looks like 
 flash-plugin_10.2.153.1-0.1.el5.rf is available now, so v11 might be OK.  It 
 seems like the Chromium build leads flash-plugin by one version, but i 
 haven't been actively upgrading as each becomes available.
 
 - csawyer

For what its worth, I use that chromium on my CentOS 5.x x86_64 desktop.




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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread David Sommerseth
On 04/04/11 15:35, henry ritzlmayr wrote:
 Am Montag, den 04.04.2011, 15:07 +0200 schrieb Rainer Traut:
 Am 04.04.2011 12:34, schrieb Marian Marinov:
 How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
 Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without
 establishing a new one?
 Or have the scripts been adapted to this?

 The attackers are not trying constantly.. Just a few bursts of trys.

 Look at denyhosts ( http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ ).
 I also have a tool for protecting from brute force attacks called Hawk (
 https://github.com/hackman/Hawk-IDS-IPS ).

 Ok, thanks to both of you, it seems the scripts getting better and better.
 Will change my iptables rule to keep the blacklist for longer.

 Thx
 Rainer
 
 Also check MaxAuthTries in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
 
 Specifies the maximum number of authentication attempts permitted per
 connection.

That won't do too much.  It only tells the ssh server how many attempts to
accept before closing the TCP connection.  The attacker can still just
re-connect and try again, which is what usually happens during these
attempts.  Of course, setting MaxAuthTries to 1, will slow the attacker a
little bit down, as it needs to re-establish the SSH connection again.

Moving over to disallowing password authentication and only use pubkey with
~/.ssh/authorized_keys is probably going to do a better job securing the
server.


kind regards,

David Sommerseth

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Re: [CentOS] Tips for motherboard with multiple PCI / PCI-e slots

2011-04-04 Thread Blake Hudson
Just about any motherboard will work. Where you typically would run into
problems would be drivers for expansion cards/peripherals.

We have 4 NICs in many of our CentOS 5 servers:
 Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 20)
 Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
 Intel Corporation 82541GI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 05)

The Broadcom chips use the bnx2 driver, while the Intel uses the e1000
driver - both included with CentOS. I've ran them at 100 and 1000, with
802.1q, no jumbo frames. Never had a problem with them.

--Blake

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Subject: [CentOS] Tips for motherboard with multiple PCI / PCI-e slots
From: robert mena robert.m...@gmail.com
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Date: Sunday, April 03, 2011 9:25:24 PM
 Hi,

 I need to fit at least three NICs and I was looking for motherboard
 models that contain 3 or 4 CPI (or PCI-e) slots and works with CentOS.

 I had a problem in the past with some models that had a bug and did
 not work well with linux (ok with windows) so that's way I am asking
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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread Jason Brown
You could also try using tcpwrappers along with iptables.


On 04/04/2011 06:34 AM, Marian Marinov wrote:
 On Monday 04 April 2011 12:18:43 Rainer Traut wrote:
 Hi,

 to prevent scripted dictionary attacks to sshd
 I applied those iptables rules:

 -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent
 --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --name SSH --rsource -j DROP
 -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent --set
 --name SSH --rsource

 And this is part of logwatch:

 sshd:
  Authentication Failures:
 unknown (www.telkom.co.ke): 137 Time(s)
 unknown (mkongwe.jambo.co.ke): 130 Time(s)
 unknown (212.49.70.24): 107 Time(s)
 root (195.191.250.101): 8 Time(s)

 How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
 Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without
 establishing a new one?
 Or have the scripts been adapted to this?
 
 The attackers are not trying constantly.. Just a few bursts of trys.
 
 Look at denyhosts ( http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ ). 
 I also have a tool for protecting from brute force attacks called Hawk ( 
 https://github.com/hackman/Hawk-IDS-IPS ).
 
 Marian

 Thx
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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread henry ritzlmayr
Am Montag, den 04.04.2011, 16:04 +0200 schrieb David Sommerseth:
 On 04/04/11 15:35, henry ritzlmayr wrote:
  Am Montag, den 04.04.2011, 15:07 +0200 schrieb Rainer Traut:
  Am 04.04.2011 12:34, schrieb Marian Marinov:
  How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
  Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without
  establishing a new one?
  Or have the scripts been adapted to this?
 
  The attackers are not trying constantly.. Just a few bursts of trys.
 
  Look at denyhosts ( http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ ).
  I also have a tool for protecting from brute force attacks called Hawk (
  https://github.com/hackman/Hawk-IDS-IPS ).
 
  Ok, thanks to both of you, it seems the scripts getting better and better.
  Will change my iptables rule to keep the blacklist for longer.
 
  Thx
  Rainer
  
  Also check MaxAuthTries in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
  
  Specifies the maximum number of authentication attempts permitted per
  connection.
 
 That won't do too much.  It only tells the ssh server how many attempts to
 accept before closing the TCP connection.  The attacker can still just
 re-connect and try again, which is what usually happens during these
 attempts.  Of course, setting MaxAuthTries to 1, will slow the attacker a
 little bit down, as it needs to re-establish the SSH connection again.

Right, but with setting MaxAuthTries to 1, the iptables rule specified
by the OP jumps in much earlier. 

 Moving over to disallowing password authentication and only use pubkey with
 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is probably going to do a better job securing the
 server.
 
 
 kind regards,
 
 David Sommerseth

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Re: [CentOS] Tips for motherboard with multiple PCI / PCI-e slots

2011-04-04 Thread Cal Sawyer
Re quad-port NICs: AOC-SG-i4 is good, too, and smaller than the UG version. 
iirc, it uses a newer Intel chipset as well. Oddly, it isn't listed on 
Supermicro's site except as a PDF factsheet.  I have a few of them and they 
work well.  There's also the Intel EXPI9404PTL, but here in the UK it's a fair 
chunk more expensive than the SM card.

cheers,

- csawyer
 


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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Tips for motherboard with multiple PCI / PCI-e slots

centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I need to fit at least three NICs and I was looking for
 motherboard models that contain 3 or 4 CPI (or PCI-e) slots and works
 with CentOS. 

You can get 4 etherports on one card... 
For 17 examples:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=100010064%20
600013873IsNodeId=1bop=AndOrder=RATINGPageSize=20
How many of those work well with Linux (of whatever variety) I don't
know.  One board claiming RedHat compatibility with a loadable kernel
module is
http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-UG-I4.cfm 

Another article that might give fast, cheap, albeit old answers is
http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/hardware/quartet.html

Why do you need 3 network interface cards?  Would two NICs with 2
etherports each, or 1 4-port card meet your need?

 I had a problem in the past with some models that had a bug
 and did not work well with linux (ok with windows) so that's
 way I am asking this here.

Are you building a desktop/personal machine, or a server?
Are you picky about power/heat/noise factors of the Mobo?

Sorry about your 5 options being narrowed down to 30, but the question
asked was really imprecise.


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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread Tom Yates
On 04/04/11 11:18, Rainer Traut wrote:

 to prevent scripted dictionary attacks to sshd
 I applied those iptables rules:
 
 -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent 
 --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --name SSH --rsource -j DROP
 -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent --set 
 --name SSH --rsource
 
 And this is part of logwatch:
 
 sshd:
  Authentication Failures:
 unknown (www.telkom.co.ke): 137 Time(s)
 unknown (mkongwe.jambo.co.ke): 130 Time(s)
 unknown (212.49.70.24): 107 Time(s)
 root (195.191.250.101): 8 Time(s)
 
 How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times? 
 Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without 
 establishing a new one? Or have the scripts been adapted to this?

i see similar results on some of my servers, eg:

% grep 'a\.bad\.ip\.address' authpriv|grep 'authentication failure'|awk '{print 
$3}'|less
15:47:44
15:49:34
15:49:46
15:51:32
15:53:17
15:53:30
15:55:14
15:56:59
15:58:44
16:00:34
16:02:19
16:02:31
16:04:17
[...]

so i can see that yes, at least some automated scripts have been adapted 
to back off in an attempt not to trip my iptables rules.  you can do a 
similar grep to see the times of your attempts, and that will tell you if 
they're running a softly-softly script, or if instead they have found a 
way to test many passwords without tripping the iptables rule.

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, David Sommerseth wrote:

 This is just a hunch, but --seconds 60 indicates that it will only look
 back one minute to check if it could find a hit.  So if the attacker tries
 to connect again after 2 minutes or even 61 seconds, it won't trigger this
 rule.  Try increasing this value to 3600 (1 hour).  Maybe you want even 
 longer.

i occasionally trip my iptables rule myself, for example if i scp a couple 
of files off a server and then go back for a third; i feel it would be a 
shame to lock myself out for an hour, by doing that.

the way i see it is that, even in the limiting case where an attacker can 
try two passwords every minute, she will be limited to just under 3,000 
attempts a day, and that's not very many when you're trying to brute-force 
decent passwords.  given that most of those are attempts to guess root's 
password, and i have PermitRootLogin no in sshd_config, the tiny 
additional load caused by an attempt every 30 seconds is something i can 
live with in exchange for not locking myself out for too long.

how long you set your lockout for is a call you must make for your 
server(s); i just wanted you to have more points of view about what people 
are doing out there in the wild.


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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread Marian Marinov
Guys, 
really... look at denyhosts and Hawk.

Both projects analyze the logs of the service and check for failed login 
attempts.

It is useless to battle the bruteforcers at the network level since they can 
adapt their behaviour to really easy surcomvent any firewalls.

In order to protect your applications you should build on them. Every daemon 
now has a decent log capabilities. And you can simply tail the log constantly 
and detect which IPs should be blocked. And then block them promptly.

It is hard to find someone that will enter the wrong password more then 10 
times :)

I don't know for denyhosts, but Hawk removes the blocks every day and you can 
configure how long you want to keep a single IP blocked. This way you have 
better control over the automated block/unblock procedure.

If you need more information about Hawk, contact me.

Marian

On Monday 04 April 2011 17:18:58 Jason Brown wrote:
 You could also try using tcpwrappers along with iptables.
 
 On 04/04/2011 06:34 AM, Marian Marinov wrote:
  On Monday 04 April 2011 12:18:43 Rainer Traut wrote:
  Hi,
  
  to prevent scripted dictionary attacks to sshd
  I applied those iptables rules:
  
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent
  --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --name SSH --rsource -j DROP
  -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -m recent --set
  --name SSH --rsource
  
  And this is part of logwatch:
  
  sshd:
   Authentication Failures:
  unknown (www.telkom.co.ke): 137 Time(s)
  unknown (mkongwe.jambo.co.ke): 130 Time(s)
  unknown (212.49.70.24): 107 Time(s)
  root (195.191.250.101): 8 Time(s)
  
  How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
  Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without
  establishing a new one?
  Or have the scripts been adapted to this?
  
  The attackers are not trying constantly.. Just a few bursts of trys.
  
  Look at denyhosts ( http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ ).
  I also have a tool for protecting from brute force attacks called Hawk (
  https://github.com/hackman/Hawk-IDS-IPS ).
  
  Marian
  
  Thx
  Rainer
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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread aly . khimji
Hey you should check out fail2ban as well. Excellent little app that analysis 
the log for the corresponding demon using a regex (u can create custom ones 
too) and performs an action you choose including iptables, hosts.deny, etc.. 
You can easily adjust setting like 3 failed connections max per min, etc..

Works well for sshd, postfix, httpd, etc..also fires you an email when a attack 
is stopped

Simple and very effective. Definitely worth checking out

Aly


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Re: [CentOS] How to install wine ?

2011-04-04 Thread m . roth
Rajan Dahal wrote:
 Hello friends,

 I have downloaded wine-1.3.13.tar.bz2

 How  to install it ?

 I have no internet connection. so I want to install it manually.

If you can d/l that, you might consider d/l the rpms, which would install
and configure it correctly.

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Re: [CentOS] about:plugins -Re: interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread m . roth
Sorin Srbu wrote:
Of ken

Under Tools... I have Adobe Reader 9.3, Adobe Reader 9.4
(temporarily disabled due to testing), Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2
Plug-in Compatible, NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 1.3.0, and Shockwave Flash
10 0 r153, that's all.

Now looking at about:plugins under Shockwave Flash it says:

File: nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so
Version:
Shockwave Flash 10.2 r153

So to your question, the evidence seems to be saying that, yes,
Shockwave is the same as Flash, at least on Linux.  Or do you see
something different?

 Well, kinda' different over here, at least on Firefox4 running on WinXP.

 Shockwave Flash
 File: NPSWF32.dll
 Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152

 Shockwave for Director
 File: np32dsw.dll
 Adobe Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 11.5.8.612

 Some differences are expected I guess, platform-wise. Just wasn't sure if
 Shockwave and Flash were the same thing. Will be quiet now. 8-)

Are you sure the latter isn't the Expen$ive flash video creator (like
Acrobat vs. acroread)?

 mark

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[CentOS] CentOS-5.5 Live CD netinstall

2011-04-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
According to http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD5.5
There is a Network Install option on the Live CD 
that is the same as our CentOS-5.5-i386-netinstall ISO.

I've looked quite carefully at my CentOS-5.5 Live CD (on a USB stick),
and I don't see a Network Install option anywhere.

Could some kind soul explain where it can be found, please.


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Re: [CentOS] sshd: Authentication Failures: 137 Time(s)

2011-04-04 Thread m . roth
Rainer Traut wrote:
 Am 04.04.2011 12:34, schrieb Marian Marinov:
 How is it possible for an attacker to try to logon more then 4 times?
 Can the attacker do this with only one TCP/IP connection without
 establishing a new one?
 Or have the scripts been adapted to this?

 The attackers are not trying constantly.. Just a few bursts of trys.

 Look at denyhosts ( http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ ).
 I also have a tool for protecting from brute force attacks called Hawk (
 https://github.com/hackman/Hawk-IDS-IPS ).

 Ok, thanks to both of you, it seems the scripts getting better and better.
 Will change my iptables rule to keep the blacklist for longer.

May I highly commend to your attention fail2ban? We use it, and it works
very well. Default is 3 from an IP, 5 for ssh, and it's banned for a
configurable amount of time - default is 2 hours. And you can add
additional filters.

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] Kernel Panic on HP/Compaq ProLiant G7

2011-04-04 Thread Windsor Dave L. (AdP/TEF7)
On 4/1/2011 1:44 PM, Windsor Dave L. (AdP/TEF7) wrote:

 On 3/24/2011 11:03 AM, Windsor Dave L. (AdP/TEF7.1) wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 I recently installed CentOS 5.5 x86_64 on a brand new ProLiant DL380 G7.  I 
 have identical OS software running reock-solid on two other DL380 ProLiant 
 servers, but they are G6 models, not G7.  On the G7, the installation went 
 perfectly and the machine ran great for about 2 weeks, when it just seemed 
 to stop.  The system stopped responding on the network, and there was no 
 video on the console (or remote console via iLO).  It would not reboot or 
 cold boot through iLO, I actually had to hold the power to turn it off and 
 then hit it again to power up.



 OK everyone, here is an update:

 The server crashed again overnight. This time, the following error
 messages were on the console:

   HARDWARE ERROR
   CPU 3: Machine Check Exception:4 Bank 5:
 ba400405
   TSC 5172b45d44f0a MISC 80
   This is not a software problem!
   Run through mcelog --ascii to decode and contact your hardware vendor


snipped

 I have been able to move all workloads onto other servers.  As at least
 two people suggested, I booted from the HP SmartStart CD and ran 100
 loops of systems diagnostics and tests, especially for the memory and
 CPU.  No problems were found.  I think I will run memtest86 over the
 weekend.

 Best Regards,

 Dave Windsor

This is interesting...  I tried to load memtest86 from the CentOS 5.5 
Install DVD, and the system immediately rebooted.  I eventually loaded 
memtest86 from an OpenSUSE 11.4 install DVD I had laying around, and 
that ran OK.

I ran memtest86+ starting Friday about 6 pm and stopping Monday morning 
at 10:45 am.  Almost 70 full passes were completed, and no errors were 
found.

Best Regards,

Dave Windsor

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Re: [CentOS] Is Centos 5.5 too old fro Google Chrome?

2011-04-04 Thread compdoc
I tried to install Google Chrome and received the dependencies
error.  Is Centos too old for the new Chrome or is there an older
Chrome version that is compatible?

Chrome depends on a few newer packages than exist in 5.5. I'm guessing
centos 6 will have updated packages which will allow Chrome to install.




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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread m . roth
Robert Heller wrote:
 At Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:39:04 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 wrote:

snip
 And yes, the 64-bit flash 'preview' plugin and yes, it plays flash
 videos just fine there.  [*I* have no use for nVidia's drive -- I don't
 do 3D modeling or video games, etc.]

Unfortunately, you *do* need nVidia's proprietary driver if you've got
dual monitors, like a lot of places I've worked in the last few years.

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Re: [CentOS] Forcing IPv4 DNS lookups first before IPv6

2011-04-04 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 09:51 -0500, Russell Jones wrote:
 Hello!
 I am having a strange issue with CentOS 5.4 that I cannot seem to solve.
 Every DNS lookup results in  records being requested first before A 
 records. As a result, this causes a large amount of unnecessary DNS 
 traffic on the network. IPv6 has been completely disabled on these servers:

Doubtful, if you are seeing  lookups.  Does ip addr show any IPv6
interfaces?

 /etc/modprobe.conf, ipv6 off and net-pf-10 off
 /etc/sysconfig/network, NETWORKING_IPV6=no
 lsmod | grep ipv6 shows the kernel module no longer loaded.
 Yet watching TCP dump shows that  records are requested before A 
 records every time a login is requested from one of our local machines 
 to another

You *only* sees these for login?  Perhaps some authentication module you
are using is causing them to happen?

  Is there some sort of configuration directive I can use to 
 force IPv4 lookups first before IPv6? Or even better, stop IPv6 lookups 
 all together?

I don't believe you see IPv6 lookups from the normal resolver libraries
unless there is at least one active IPv6 interface.

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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:39:30 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:

 
 Robert Heller wrote:
  At Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:39:04 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
  wrote:
 
 snip
  And yes, the 64-bit flash 'preview' plugin and yes, it plays flash
  videos just fine there.  [*I* have no use for nVidia's drive -- I don't
  do 3D modeling or video games, etc.]
 
 Unfortunately, you *do* need nVidia's proprietary driver if you've got
 dual monitors, like a lot of places I've worked in the last few years.

I have just the one 17 VGA monitor.  Don't have room for either a
larger monitor or a second one.  And I am not sure what I would do with
a second monitor if I had one.

 
  mark
 
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Re: [CentOS] Is Centos 5.5 too old fro Google Chrome?

2011-04-04 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 09:44:00AM -0600, compdoc wrote:
 I tried to install Google Chrome and received the dependencies
 error.  Is Centos too old for the new Chrome or is there an older
 Chrome version that is compatible?
 
 Chrome depends on a few newer packages than exist in 5.5. I'm guessing
 centos 6 will have updated packages which will allow Chrome to install.

Judging from Scientific Linux 6.0, this seems to be the case, installed
without problem or any special effort.


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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread Rob Kampen

Robert Heller wrote:

At Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:39:30 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:

  

Robert Heller wrote:


At Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:39:04 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
wrote:

  

snip


And yes, the 64-bit flash 'preview' plugin and yes, it plays flash
videos just fine there.  [*I* have no use for nVidia's drive -- I don't
do 3D modeling or video games, etc.]
  

Unfortunately, you *do* need nVidia's proprietary driver if you've got
dual monitors, like a lot of places I've worked in the last few years.



I have just the one 17 VGA monitor.  Don't have room for either a
larger monitor or a second one.  And I am not sure what I would do with
a second monitor if I had one.
  

Wow - you haven't lived
All my work-stations have dual monitors. If you regularly use a browser 
and a word processor or spreadsheet you will benefit.
If you are trying to set up servers and compare between them, it is very 
useful too.

Makes copy paste etc so much simpler for my little brain to deal with. YMMV
  

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread m . roth
Robert Heller wrote:
 At Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:39:30 -0400 CentOS mailing list
centos@centos.org wrote:
 Robert Heller wrote:
  At Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:39:04 -0400 CentOS mailing list
 centos@centos.org
  wrote:
 snip
  And yes, the 64-bit flash 'preview' plugin and yes, it plays flash
videos just fine there.  [*I* have no use for nVidia's drive -- I
don't do 3D modeling or video games, etc.]

 Unfortunately, you *do* need nVidia's proprietary driver if you've got
dual monitors, like a lot of places I've worked in the last few years.

 I have just the one 17 VGA monitor.  Don't have room for either a
larger monitor or a second one.  And I am not sure what I would do with
a second monitor if I had one.

Lessee, last place I worked, not sure about the one before that, and where
I work now, almost everyone has dual monitors. It's the in thing. (We
won't talk about my co-worker, who seems to remember fondly when he was in
the NOC, with three? four? monitors)

  mark only has two eyeballs



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Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:22:59 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 
 Robert Heller wrote:
  At Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:39:30 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
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  Robert Heller wrote:
  
  At Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:39:04 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
  wrote:
 

  snip
  
  And yes, the 64-bit flash 'preview' plugin and yes, it plays flash
  videos just fine there.  [*I* have no use for nVidia's drive -- I don't
  do 3D modeling or video games, etc.]

  Unfortunately, you *do* need nVidia's proprietary driver if you've got
  dual monitors, like a lot of places I've worked in the last few years.
  
 
  I have just the one 17 VGA monitor.  Don't have room for either a
  larger monitor or a second one.  And I am not sure what I would do with
  a second monitor if I had one.

 Wow - you haven't lived
 All my work-stations have dual monitors. If you regularly use a browser 
 and a word processor or spreadsheet you will benefit.

I don't use word processors or spreadsheets.  No loss there.  I do use a
keyboard-based text editor in an xterm window.

 If you are trying to set up servers and compare between them, it is very 
 useful too.

I have no trouble with multiple xterm windows (to different machines). I
never maximize the xterm windows, so there is room for several on the
screen. And I do have multiple 'virtual' screens (a feature of FVWM).

 Makes copy paste etc so much simpler for my little brain to deal with. YMMV

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Re: [CentOS] Forcing IPv4 DNS lookups first before IPv6

2011-04-04 Thread Russell Jones

Thanks for your help!

 Doubtful, if you are seeing  lookups. Does ip addr show any 
IPv6 interfaces?


No active ipv6 interfaces:

[root@hostname1 ~]# ip addr
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast 
qlen 1000

link/ether 00:e0:81:76:ca:52 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 172.29.87.20/24 brd 172.29.87.255 scope global eth0
3: eth1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 qdisc noop qlen 1000
link/ether 00:e0:81:76:ca:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff


[root@hostname1 ~]# lsmod | grep -i ipv6
[root@hostname1 ~]#


 You *only* sees these for login? Perhaps some authentication module 
you are using is causing them to happen?



No, I also see this when doing traceroutes. It's just the at login 
part that it's most prevalent due to the DNS-induced lag time. The 
server's user authentication is NIS, and I am unaware of any IPv6 NIS 
configuration that would cause this. But if you are please do let me 
know, I'm tearing my hair out here and I don't have much left. Example 
from a traceroute from hostname1 to hostname2. This was nothing more 
than a traceroute hostname2 on this same box I just showed as not 
having any IPv6 interfaces, nor the IPv6 kernel module loaded:



[root@hostname1 ~]# tcpdump -v 'port 53'
tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 
bytes


11:07:24.989304 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 65039, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 60) hostname1.59725  
vdns1-hc.example.com.domain: [bad udp cksum 2bd2!]  26130+ ? 
hostname2.example.com. (32)
11:07:24.989612 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  62, id 61322, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 111) vdns1-hc.example.com.domain  
hostname1.59725:  26130* q: ? hostname2.example.com. 0/1/0 ns: 
example.com. SOA[|domain]
11:07:24.989666 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 65040, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 69) hostname1.47865  
vdns1-hc.example.com.domain: [bad udp cksum 9d73!]  33222+ ? 
hostname2.ioexample.ioroot.tld. (41)
11:07:24.989763 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 65040, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 72) hostname1.58021  
vdns1-hc.example.com.domain: [bad udp cksum f44f!]  24663+ PTR? 
20.251.31.172.in-addr.arpa. (44)
11:07:24.990137 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  62, id 61323, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 140) vdns1-hc.example.com.domain  
hostname1.58021:  24663* q: PTR? 20.251.31.172.in-addr.arpa. 1/1/1 
20.251.31.172.in-addr.arpa.[|domain]
11:07:24.991182 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  62, id 61324, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 133) vdns1-hc.example.com.domain  
hostname1.47865:  33222 NXDomain q: ? 
hostname2.ioexample.ioroot.tld. 0/1/0 ns: ioexample.ioroot.tld. SOA[|domain]
11:07:24.991214 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 65041, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 60) hostname1.42778  
vdns1-hc.example.com.domain: [bad udp cksum 5f4a!]  12333+ A? 
hostname2.example.com. (32)
11:07:24.991665 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  62, id 61325, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 291) vdns1-hc.example.com.domain  
hostname1.42778:  12333* q: A? hostname2.example.com. 1/6/5 
hostname2.example.com. A hostname2.example.com ns: example.com.[|domain]
11:07:24.991797 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 65042, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 71) hostname1.38670  
vdns1-hc.example.com.domain: [bad udp cksum 1a59!]  25903+ PTR? 
43.43.29.172.in-addr.arpa. (43)
11:07:24.992089 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  62, id 61326, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 137) vdns1-hc.example.com.domain  
hostname1.38670:  25903* q: PTR? 43.43.29.172.in-addr.arpa. 1/1/1 
43.43.29.172.in-addr.arpa.[|domain]
11:07:24.993030 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 65043, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 72) hostname1.51119  
vdns1-hc.example.com.domain: [bad udp cksum 161e!]  53743+ PTR? 
254.87.29.172.in-addr.arpa. (44)
11:07:24.993608 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  62, id 24219, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 147) vdns1-hc.example.com.domain  
hostname1.51119:  53743* q: PTR? 254.87.29.172.in-addr.arpa. 1/1/1 
254.87.29.172.in-addr.arpa.[|domain]
11:07:24.993922 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 65044, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 71) hostname1.49775  
vdns1-hc.example.com.domain: [bad udp cksum 6bab!]  59260+ PTR? 
43.43.29.172.in-addr.arpa. (43)
11:07:24.994401 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  62, id 24220, offset 0, flags [DF], 
proto: UDP (17), length: 137) vdns1-hc.example.com.domain  
hostname1.49775:  59260* q: PTR? 43.43.29.172.in-addr.arpa. 1/1/1 
43.43.29.172.in-addr.arpa.[|domain]




Notice how before it even attempts an IPv4 lookup it cycles through IPv6 
first, appending the domains that are in the search path of this 
boxes' /etc/resolv.conf to the host I did a traceroute to. Then after it 
exhausts all of its IPv6 lookup attempts, it does IPv4 and of course the 
first lookup succeeds. With boxes that have 

Re: [CentOS] interview request for ppl who have Shockwave/.Firefox working

2011-04-04 Thread m . roth
Robert Heller wrote:
 At Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:22:59 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 wrote:
snip
 I have no trouble with multiple xterm windows (to different machines). I
 never maximize the xterm windows, so there is room for several on the
 screen. And I do have multiple 'virtual' screens (a feature of FVWM).
snip
Yeah - folks seem to have forgotten the concept that screen real estate is
*valuable*, and gone to the Everybody Always Wants To Maximize My
Wonder!!!Full!!! Website!!

Turkeys. Who don't understand the concept of a window

  mark

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