Re: [CentOS-es] SALUDOS COMUNIDAD... TENGO UN PROBLEMA
Proporciona el smbldap.conf Creo el DN ? ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Consulta actualizaciones de Seguridad
El 13/05/2011 11:56, Oscar Osta Pueyo escribió: Hola Oscar, Puedes utilizar el plugin de yum, yum-security El problema de este plugin para Yum es el mismo que explicaba en mi email anterior: **los paquetes que propociona CentOS no están marcados con esta información**, de modo que bajo esta distribución no va a funcionar. Este plugin funciona correctamente en RHEL, por si a alguien le interesa hace tiempo escribí una serie de trucos/tips para Yum, entre ellos información relativa a yum-security para RHEL: http://wiki.woop.es/Yum#yum-security Saludos, -- Santi Saez http://powerstack.org ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Consulta actualizaciones de Seguridad
El 16/05/2011 4:50, Diego Chacon escribió: Hola Diego, Finalmente, si te decides a probar Spacewalk, hace tiempo redacté un how-to de instalación para la versión 0.5, quizás te puede servir de ayuda: http://wiki.woop.es/Instalacion_Spacewalk (..) Muchas gracias, voy a investigarlo. Si te interesa este tema, hace unos días en Barrapunto un usuario lanzaba una pregunta que ha dado inicio a un tema muy interesante sobre sistemas para automatizar la administración de máquinas Linux: http://goo.gl/sUDIk Finalmente, es importante que sepas que en RHEL (y por lo tanto también ocurre así en CentOS) *tras actualizar un paquete no se reinicia su servicio asociado automáticamente*, es decir, si actualizas el paquete httpd para solucionar X vulnerabilidad *posteriormente tendrás que ejecutar un service httpd restart para que se ejecute la nueva versión de Apache*, esto dificulta algo mas lo que pretendías hacer de cara a automatizar la tarea, tienes algo mas de información en: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=248116 Para solventar este problema y añadir muchas otras mejoras a CentOS, desde hace unos meses he liberado el repositorio PowerStack: http://woop.es/2011/02/presentacion-powerstack/ Saludos, -- Santi Saez http://powerstack.org ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Consulta actualizaciones de Seguridad
2011/5/17 Santi Saez santis...@woop.es El 13/05/2011 11:56, Oscar Osta Pueyo escribió: Hola Oscar, Puedes utilizar el plugin de yum, yum-security El problema de este plugin para Yum es el mismo que explicaba en mi email anterior: **los paquetes que propociona CentOS no están marcados con esta información**, de modo que bajo esta distribución no va a funcionar. Este plugin funciona correctamente en RHEL, por si a alguien le interesa hace tiempo escribí una serie de trucos/tips para Yum, entre ellos información relativa a yum-security para RHEL: http://wiki.woop.es/Yum#yum-security Eso quiere decir que en Centos, nunca va a salir ningun paquete al hacer yum check-update --security, pues como dice no vienen marcados? -- Diego Chacón Rojas Teléfono: +506 2258.5757 E-mail: di...@gridshield.net Gridshield: I.T. Service Management ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Instalar centos en HP ML350: no formatea los discos
Saludos, estoy intentanto instalar Centos 5.6 en un servidor HP proliant ML350 G3 con 3 Gb de Ram un procesador de 2,6 GHZ y 5 discos duros scsi cada uno de 72.4 Gb que estan en Raid 5. al avanzar la instalacion en la parte que formatting/file system, la instalacion no avanza y se cuelga. En revisado el hardware con el cd smartstart y todo esta Ok, en vuelto a crear el arreglo y el volumen logico en raisd 5 y todo esta bien, he configurado el equipo para se instale Linux , pero se sigue paralizando en la parte que debe formatear los discos a pesar que puedo ver el volumen y crear las particiones, si hay alguna opcion que estoy obviando agradezco su apoyo. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] configurar rauter
Buenas Tardes estoy interesado en configurar un centos como rauter, proxy. cortafuegos con dos tarjetaspor la etho esta el intarnet y por la eth1 esta la red. Me pueden ayudar con algun manual aclaro soy nuevo en linux esto haciendolo solo asi que p ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] configurar rauter
Creo que lo mejor es que uses un appliance como endian firewall: http://www.endian.com/en/community/download/ Seguramente se te hara mas facil la administracion y puesta en marcha :P Saludos. On 17-05-2011 13:54, jairo cuenca wrote: Buenas Tardes estoy interesado en configurar un centos como rauter, proxy. cortafuegos con dos tarjetaspor la etho esta el intarnet y por la eth1 esta la red. Me pueden ayudar con algun manual aclaro soy nuevo en linux esto haciendolo solo asi que p ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] configurar rauter
Roberto Alvarado wrote: Creo que lo mejor es que uses un appliance como endian firewall: o como clearos que es basado en CentOS: http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/downloads saludos epe ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] configurar rauter
Edguit@r http://cybernautape.blogspot.com El día 17 de mayo de 2011 12:54, jairo cuenca jcuen...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas Tardes estoy interesado en configurar un centos como rauter, proxy. cortafuegos con dos tarjetaspor la etho esta el intarnet y por la eth1 esta la red. Me pueden ayudar con algun manual Existen muchos manuales en internet, intestaste buscar algo?, leiste algo sobre eso?, con centos o con otra distro es sencillo hacer lo que pides, pero primero debes intentar tu solo, cuando pongas algun avance se te ayuda, no lo tomes a mal, cuando yo me inicié también quería lo mismo, pero antes de pedir algo debes intentarlo tu solo. busca en internet: linux como router, hacer nat con iptables, activar reenvio en linux, saludos... aclaro soy nuevo en linux esto haciendolo solo asi que p Como mucha mas razon, todo a su tiempo, tienes que entender algunos conceptos, te recomiendo leer antes de hacer algo..., reitero no lo tomes a mal... ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Consulta actualizaciones de Seguridad
El 17/05/2011 19:39, Diego Chacón escribió: Hola Diego, Eso quiere decir que en Centos, nunca va a salir ningun paquete al hacer yum check-update --security, pues como dice no vienen marcados? En una instalación por defecto no, lo acabo de confirmar en una CentOS 5.5 antes de actualizar a 5.6 y tras instalar el plugin dicha opción no está disponible. Quizás alguien conozca algún hack para hacerlo funcionar.. en tal caso, será una información muy bienvenida :) Saludos, -- Santi Saez http://powerstack.org ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] duda con arranque
Hola, me instale hace unos meses el centos, a traves de usb, con netinstall. Resulta que no se que hize, porque para que se me iniciara el centos con el disco duro, tenia que tener pinchado el usb. Por esas cosas, ayer tube que formatear el pen, y ahora no me arranca el centos. Me baje una live64 pero no se como instalarlo, o como recuperar el linux que tengo en el portatil. ¿Alguna sugerencia? Muchas gracias ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] duda con arranque
Jordi Maicas wrote: Hola, me instale hace unos meses el centos, a traves de usb, con netinstall. Resulta que no se que hize, porque para que se me iniciara el centos con el disco duro, tenia que tener pinchado el usb. Por esas cosas, ayer tube que formatear el pen, y ahora no me arranca el centos. Me baje una live64 pero no se como instalarlo, o como recuperar el linux que tengo en el portatil. arranca en el modo de rescate, ahi instala el grub en el primer disco que ahora será el disco duro interno (antes era la usb). Con eso posiblemente salgas del problema. saludos epe ¿Alguna sugerencia? Muchas gracias ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Instalar centos en HP ML350: no formatea los discos
Marcel, disculpas si la aclaracion es demasiado basica para ti, pero hay que hacerla. -Una vez que el RAID por hardware esta creado, CentOS vera como un disco unico, (no hay necesidad de RAID por software).- descartado esto, paseate por los otros terminales para ver que info arroja, (presionando CTRL+ALT+F3 hasta CTRL+ALT+F6 ...creo) y compartela. Tambien algunas veces tarda un poco en construirse el RAID, y si lo intentas formatear mientras esta en construccion puede causar problemas (dependiendo del hardware), asegurate que primero haya terminado la construccion del RAID. Julio --- On Mon, 16/5/11, Marcel Gutierrez Gavonel gmarc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcel Gutierrez Gavonel gmarc...@gmail.com Subject: [CentOS-es] Instalar centos en HP ML350: no formatea los discos To: centos-es@centos.org Date: Monday, 16 May, 2011, 23:41 Saludos, estoy intentanto instalar Centos 5.6 en un servidor HP proliant ML350 G3 con 3 Gb de Ram un procesador de 2,6 GHZ y 5 discos duros scsi cada uno de 72.4 Gb que estan en Raid 5. al avanzar la instalacion en la parte que formatting/file system, la instalacion no avanza y se cuelga. En revisado el hardware con el cd smartstart y todo esta Ok, en vuelto a crear el arreglo y el volumen logico en raisd 5 y todo esta bien, he configurado el equipo para se instale Linux , pero se sigue paralizando en la parte que debe formatear los discos a pesar que puedo ver el volumen y crear las particiones, si hay alguna opcion que estoy obviando agradezco su apoyo. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] duda con arranque
hmmm, suena interesante... Parece que tenias tu boot en el pen drive pero investigalo primero, arranca con el live CD y ve como esta particionado tu disco duro, #fdisk -l necesitas tener la particion /boot en tu disco duro (esperemos que no haya estado en el pen drive) y esta debe estar señalado como boot como en este ejemplo Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 26 204800 83 Linux Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 26729758408321 8e Linux LVM Bueno, comparte la info de tu fdisk -l Julio --- On Wed, 18/5/11, Jordi Maicas jmay...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Jordi Maicas jmay...@hotmail.com Subject: [CentOS-es] duda con arranque To: centos-es@centos.org Date: Wednesday, 18 May, 2011, 0:25 Hola, me instale hace unos meses el centos, a traves de usb, con netinstall. Resulta que no se que hize, porque para que se me iniciara el centos con el disco duro, tenia que tener pinchado el usb. Por esas cosas, ayer tube que formatear el pen, y ahora no me arranca el centos. Me baje una live64 pero no se como instalarlo, o como recuperar el linux que tengo en el portatil. ¿Alguna sugerencia? Muchas gracias ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] xargs with max each line / argument
On 5/17/11 12:36 AM, neubyr wrote:
How do I pass xargs input one line at a time to subsequent command?
For example I want to install rubygems by reading a text file as shown
below, however the arguments are getting passed all at once to the
'gem install' command. I hace tried -L (max-lines) and -n (max args)
options, but it didn't work. What's missing here?? Any help?
$ cat gem.list.1
mkrf
rake
xmlparser
$ awk '{ print $0 }' gem.list.1 | xargs -L 1 -0 -I name sudo gem install
name
ERROR: could not find gem mkrf
rake
xmlparser
locally or in a repository
Or:
cat gem.list.1 | while read PKG; do sudo gem install $PKG; done
JD
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Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Christopher Chan wrote: The Centos ML does quite well without a moderator imho. No need to go draconian like other projects/'communities' I think a moderated mailing list around release time sounds like bliss to me. jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 05:50 PM, John Hodrien wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2011, Christopher Chan wrote: The Centos ML does quite well without a moderator imho. No need to go draconian like other projects/'communities' I think a moderated mailing list around release time sounds like bliss to me. Yeah...for you...think of the poor moderator! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Christopher Chan wrote: I think a moderated mailing list around release time sounds like bliss to me. Yeah...for you...think of the poor moderator! Well, we could sign up on a rota... jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:58:31PM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Yeah...for you...think of the poor moderator! I'd be more than happy to moderate the list. I can assure you that the current trolls will be back in their cages safely under their bridges in short order. John -- What happened should never, ever have happened. The families of those who died should not have had to live with the pain and hurt of that day, and a lifetime of loss. -- Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain, apologizing for the Bloody Sunday killings of 14 unarmed demonstrators by British soldiers in Londonderry, Northern Ireland, in 1972, New York Times, 16 June 2010 pgpC8a1YUjDhe.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
Maybe all the non-technical discussions could go into a CentOS Politics/Philosophy new list...? JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] xargs with max each line / argument
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:36:08AM -0500, neubyr wrote:
How do I pass xargs input one line at a time to subsequent command?
xargs is the wrong tool for this job.
$ awk '{ print $0 }' gem.list.1 | xargs -L 1 -0 -I name sudo gem install name
while read line
do
sudo gem install $line
done gem.list.1
--
rgds
Stephen
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Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On 17 May 2011 11:03, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:58:31PM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Yeah...for you...think of the poor moderator! I'd be more than happy to moderate the list. I can assure you that the current trolls will be back in their cages safely under their bridges in short order. John Hang around in OpenBSD-misc or Full-Disclosure for a while to reset your values of ML behaviour :) Idiot trolls like Radu Gheorghiu don't even make it into my fetchmailrc. That being said, whining about the delay to the point where one of the people doing the work is obviously pissed off is just stupid. from theo.c Whiners. They scale really well. mike sorry 4 adding to the decrease in SNR ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 06:03 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:58:31PM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Yeah...for you...think of the poor moderator! I'd be more than happy to moderate the list. I can assure you that the current trolls will be back in their cages safely under their bridges in short order. Hey all, We have a volunteer! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem Making Tarballs
John J. Boyer wrote: Les, I installed the development tools and development libraries, as you suggested. I even tried to install packages x*.x86_64 There were some unresolved dependencies in the latter, so I used --skip-broken with yum. There was a report of conflicting files, so i don't know how much was actually installed. Anyway, when I run autogen.sh configure make on a read-only copy of the liblouis svn repository I get the following errors. ../libtool: line 826: X--tag=CC: command not found ../libtool: line 859: libtool: ignoring unknown tag : command not found ../libtool: line 826: X--mode=compile: command not found ../libtool: line 992: *** Warning: inferring the mode of operation is deprecated.: command not found ../libtool: line 993: *** Future versions of Libtool will require --mode=MODE be specified.: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: Xgcc: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X-DHAVE_CONFIG_H: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X-I.: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X-I../../gnulib: No such file or directory ../libtool: line 1136: X-I../liblouis: No such file or directory ../libtool: line 1136: X-g: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X-O2: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X-MT: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: Xprogname.lo: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X-MD: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X-MP: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X-MF: command not found ../libtool: line 1136: X.deps/progname.Tpo: No such file or directory ../libtool: line 1136: X-c: command not found ../libtool: line 1188: Xprogname.lo: command not found ../libtool: line 1193: libtool: compile: cannot determine name of library object from `': command not found make[3]: *** [progname.lo] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 This repository works on my home Linux machine, which is older than the vps. Thanks, John You continuously make same mistakes when giving info. This one will be very hard to do if you assume things. Like that we know what your home machine looks like. If was you, I would volunteered following information: CentOS vps is version 5.?? with following third person repositories active (guess because you have dependency issues) , and my home machine is Linux system version ??? with following repositories active. Have you looked at packages (and their versions!) needed to compile that app in the README file? I notice you are one of developers but guess you do not have much rpm experience. I can see SRPMS for Fedora 14, 15 and 16 (http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/14/SRPMS/liblouis-2.2.0-2.fc14.src.rpm) and I wonder why would you want to compile it from scratch when recompiling it would be much better. I am going to try to recompile Fedora SRPM and see what is the problem. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
Christopher Chan wrote: On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 05:50 PM, John Hodrien wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2011, Christopher Chan wrote: The Centos ML does quite well without a moderator imho. No need to go draconian like other projects/'communities' I think a moderated mailing list around release time sounds like bliss to me. Yeah...for you...think of the poor moderator! HAHAHAHAHA, YUP! Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On 05/16/2011 02:44 PM, ne...@grayhatlabs.com wrote: I never thought sliced bread was all that great. Wouldn't it be better for people to donate money to help push things along faster? I mean if your really upset about how long its taken to come out why don't you donate some money to help the people who are working for free? Love to. Actually got approval from my company to do so years ago: The project donations page has been down (CentOS is currently reviewing our cash donation program. In the mean time we are not accepting any financial donations. We do appreciate though, if you want to - for example - help out with promo material. See our Wiki page on donations http://wiki.centos.org/Donate for more up to date information.) for around two years now. It is very hard to take dev complaints about how 'no one wants to contribute' seriously when the devs have avoided setting up an easy mechanism for people to contribute money *to the project* for years now. Money doesn't solve all problems (and creates some new ones of its own), but it can pay developers, buy new servers for development, and create other resources. But I will not throw money at the devs as no-string gifts to them as individuals. If they want to 'board the gravy train' by making a living from the project, I'm thrilled for them. I've no problem with people being compensated for their work. Form a formally chartered organization with accountable mechanisms for paying the devs. Go to town on it. If they just want people to give them money personally (which some devs have, perhaps tongue in cheek, suggested on this list) with no accountability or expectation that that money actually specifically support the project, well, they can keep dreaming. -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
On 05/17/2011 03:06 AM, John Doe wrote: Maybe all the non-technical discussions could go into a CentOS Politics/Philosophy new list...? And on that note, some required reading for everyone in this floating flame war. Don't skim it - read it. http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] allowing users to write to a web content area
Hi, Thanks to everyone with suggestions thus far. I'm still having difficulties getting this to work. Using find and xargs I can get the permissions on the files and directories what i'm wanting, but adding new ones the umask takes over the group ownership is right but with the 077 it doesn't matter. Thanks. Dave. On 5/16/11, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote: Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: Marian Marinov wrote: On Monday 16 May 2011 06:19:49 David Mehler wrote: Hello, I've got apache running on a centos 5.6 machine. All of my users have a umask of 077 set in /etc/bashrc. I'm now wanting to give several of them permission to write to a web area so they can place content visible to the web server. I've got two groups webdev1 and webdev2 which I want one to be able to write to site1 and the other to site2. I've got between 3 and 5 users in each group. I'd prefer not to mess with these users umask settings, but want the correct permissions and ownerships user:webdev1 or user:webdev2 where user is the username of the person who placed the file. Permissions I believe should be 664 so apache can read the files. I'm wondering if I need to look in to ACLS which I've not used or if there's another solution? Thanks. Dave. It seams obvious... add the apache user to both webdev1 and webdev2 groups and you are done... no need to change umasks and perms :) This would give apache write access to the site contents, which is bad practice. It also won't solve the umask issue. Since the OP wants all members of webdev1 to have write access to site1, he needs the setgid bit active on site1/ . And he needs all files in site1/ to be 664 as he says. But with a umask 077 for all users, any new file created by a user will be 600. I don't know how to solve that cleanly at file creation (but I don't know ACLs). You could ask your users to try to remember to chmod any new files; and have a find command running in cron regularly to do the chmod when they forget. There is an option to set on the directory so any new file when created will have umask of the group or directory owner (something like that). I am yet to test and use this but I found howto somewhere on the net. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem Making Tarballs
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
John J. Boyer wrote:
Les,
I installed the development tools and development libraries, as you
suggested. I even tried to install packages x*.x86_64 There were some
unresolved dependencies in the latter, so I used --skip-broken with yum.
There was a report of conflicting files, so i don't know how much was
actually installed.
Anyway, when I run autogen.sh configure make on a read-only copy of the
liblouis svn repository I get the following errors.
../libtool: line 826: X--tag=CC: command not found
../libtool: line 859: libtool: ignoring unknown tag : command not found
../libtool: line 826: X--mode=compile: command not found
../libtool: line 992: *** Warning: inferring the mode of operation is
deprecated.: command not found
../libtool: line 993: *** Future versions of Libtool will require
--mode=MODE be specified.: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: Xgcc: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X-DHAVE_CONFIG_H: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X-I.: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X-I../../gnulib: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 1136: X-I../liblouis: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 1136: X-g: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X-O2: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X-MT: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: Xprogname.lo: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X-MD: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X-MP: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X-MF: command not found
../libtool: line 1136: X.deps/progname.Tpo: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 1136: X-c: command not found
../libtool: line 1188: Xprogname.lo: command not found
../libtool: line 1193: libtool: compile: cannot determine name of library
object from `': command not found
make[3]: *** [progname.lo] Error 1
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
This repository works on my home Linux machine, which is older than the
vps.
Thanks,
John
You continuously make same mistakes when giving info. This one will be
very hard to do if you assume things. Like that we know what your home
machine looks like. If was you, I would volunteered following information:
CentOS vps is version 5.?? with following third person repositories
active (guess because you have dependency issues) , and my home machine
is Linux system version ??? with following repositories active.
Have you looked at packages (and their versions!) needed to compile that
app in the README file?
I notice you are one of developers but guess you do not have much rpm
experience. I can see SRPMS for Fedora 14, 15 and 16
(http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/14/SRPMS/liblouis-2.2.0-2.fc14.src.rpm)
and I wonder why would you want to compile it from scratch when
recompiling it would be much better.
I am going to try to recompile Fedora SRPM and see what is the problem.
Packages needed are help2man texinfo-tex python-devel info tetex
liblouis package I gave a link too reposrt following errors on 64-bit
CentOS 5.6:
RPM build errors:
File must begin with /: %{python_sitelib}/louis/
Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lou_allround.debug
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lou_checkhyphens.debug
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lou_checktable.debug
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lou_debug.debug
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/lou_translate.debug
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib64/liblouis.so.2.2.3.debug
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib64/liblouis.so.2.debug
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib64/liblouis.so.debug
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/gnulib/progname.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/gnulib/progname.h
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/gnulib/version-etc.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/gnulib/version-etc.h
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/liblouis/compileTranslationTable.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/liblouis/liblouis.h
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/liblouis/lou_backTranslateString.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/liblouis/lou_translateString.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/liblouis/louis.h
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/liblouis/transcommon.ci
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/liblouis/wrappers.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/tools/lou_allround.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/tools/lou_checkhyphens.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/tools/lou_checktable.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/tools/lou_debug.c
/usr/src/debug/liblouis-2.2.0/tools/lou_translate.c
My suggestion is to contact Martin Gieseking martin.giesek...@uos.de
(author of the spec) and see if he can help you.
I am currently too busy to play with this, but if you can not find
anybody else, I will try to compile this (newer version 2.3.0?) for you
for CentOS 5.x. If there are any problems with CentOS 5.x, it should
work on CentOS 6.x without any problem.
Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] xargs with max each line / argument
-Original Message-
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[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of neubyr
Sent: 17/05/2011 06:36
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] xargs with max each line / argument
How do I pass xargs input one line at a time to subsequent command?
For example I want to install rubygems by reading a text file as shown
below, however the arguments are getting passed all at once to the
'gem install' command. I hace tried -L (max-lines) and -n (max args)
options, but it didn't work. What's missing here?? Any help?
$ cat gem.list.1
mkrf
rake
xmlparser
$ awk '{ print $0 }' gem.list.1 | xargs -L 1 -0 -I name sudo
gem install name
ERROR: could not find gem mkrf
rake
xmlparser
locally or in a repository
thanks,
neuby.r
Hi.
As others have mentioned, a simple cat or use of into xargs will simplify
things. The max-args switch _is_ the one you are
looking for:
--max-args=max-args, -n max-args
Spceifically:
cat gem.list.1 | xargs --max-args=1 sudo gem install
will do what you want, I think - please test it first. You could add
--interactive to xargs to help with this, or even just:
cat gem.list.1 | xargs --max-args=1 echo sudo gem install
which will just dump the commands that would be run (using echo).
hth Andy
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Re: [CentOS] xargs with max each line / argument
Andy Holt wrote:
[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of neubyr
How do I pass xargs input one line at a time to subsequent command?
For example I want to install rubygems by reading a text file as shown
below, however the arguments are getting passed all at once to the
'gem install' command. I hace tried -L (max-lines) and -n (max args)
options, but it didn't work. What's missing here?? Any help?
$ cat gem.list.1
mkrf
rake
xmlparser
$ awk '{ print $0 }' gem.list.1 | xargs -L 1 -0 -I name sudo
gem install name
ERROR: could not find gem mkrf
rake
xmlparser
locally or in a repository
snip
Screw xargs. Read an awk tutorial, maybe. Learn your tools.
awk '{name = $1; cmd = sudo gem install name; system( cmd);}' gem.list.1.
mark yes, I do do awk...
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Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On 05/17/2011 01:46 PM, Michael Simpson wrote: On 17 May 2011 11:03, John R. Dennisonj...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:58:31PM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Yeah...for you...think of the poor moderator! I'd be more than happy to moderate the list. I can assure you that the current trolls will be back in their cages safely under their bridges in short order. John Hang around in OpenBSD-misc or Full-Disclosure for a while to reset your values of ML behaviour :) Idiot trolls like Radu Gheorghiu don't even make it into my fetchmailrc. Why am I a troll, when I simply state my opinion? Is this mailling list the place where we can simply insult everyone we don't like? Michael, saying that I am an idiot, does that make you feel better? Do you feel reliefed now? Is CentOS 6 any closer now? What is wrong with you people? That being said, whining about the delay to the point where one of the people doing the work is obviously pissed off is just stupid. from theo.c Whiners. They scale really well. mike sorry 4 adding to the decrease in SNR ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: Video Surveillance SW on CentOS
I suggested to our Homeowners Association that we begin a Private Forum (phpBB) and web site. That suggestion has been well received and we will proceed with that. Now, I have become involved in a much more complex and important project, which is Video Surveillance, for the entrance to our subdivision. I Googled and found two (2) things for Linux that seem to be OK: (a) ZoneMinder http://www.zoneminder.com/ (b) Motion http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome Both are licensed under the GPL. Motion is available from the RPMForge Repository, which is a big plus, for installation, upgrades and removal. ZoneMinder seems to be a much more active project. I would appreciate Feedback, from anyone who has used either or both of these programs. Pros and Cons? Also, if anyone has other Software to recommend, to run on CentOS, that information will be appreciated. The idea is to have at least two (2) cameras. One for Arrivals and One for Departures. -- TIA! Lanny Our Computer2.com Domain Name is For Sale, on Sedo.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Video Surveillance SW on CentOS
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Re: [CentOS] xargs with max each line / argument
Thanks for the help everyone. I used awk as the gem.list file may
contain version number in brackets - rake (1.2). I should have
mentioned this before. I used 'awk $1' to get first column from each
row. I liked all inputs, but I think I will try mark's awk solution
here. Thanks again..
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:30 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Andy Holt wrote:
[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of neubyr
How do I pass xargs input one line at a time to subsequent command?
For example I want to install rubygems by reading a text file as shown
below, however the arguments are getting passed all at once to the
'gem install' command. I hace tried -L (max-lines) and -n (max args)
options, but it didn't work. What's missing here?? Any help?
$ cat gem.list.1
mkrf
rake
xmlparser
$ awk '{ print $0 }' gem.list.1 | xargs -L 1 -0 -I name sudo
gem install name
ERROR: could not find gem mkrf
rake
xmlparser
locally or in a repository
snip
Screw xargs. Read an awk tutorial, maybe. Learn your tools.
awk '{name = $1; cmd = sudo gem install name; system( cmd);}' gem.list.1.
mark yes, I do do awk...
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Video Surveillance SW on CentOS
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 09:33:47 AM Lanny Marcus wrote: ZoneMinder seems to be a much more active project. I would appreciate Feedback, from anyone who has used either or both of these programs. Pros and Cons? The idea is to have at least two (2) cameras. One for Arrivals and One for Departures. We're using ZoneMinder here for eight cameras currently. It's on CentOS 5, and the cameras are network cameras. The CPU load is pretty high with eight cameras at frame rates above 5fps, since much of the work is transcoding the video from the camera (the particular cams we have aren't MPEG4; they're frame at a time JPEG, and that's the worst-case scenario from a transcoding point of view, as well as from a network traffic point of view). We settled on 1 fps, and the load is very manageable with modern hardware (dual core 2.2GHz or higher). Building ZoneMinder from source is not the easiest thing I've ever done, nor is it the hardest, but it needs some particular versions of particular libraries (ffmpeg for one) or it breaks pretty badly. It will also require either setting SELinux to permissive or off, or writing SELinux policy to allow the ZoneMinder processes access to the various things they need access to (sockets, network ports, etc). However, there are better solutions available commercially that are 'install it and it runs' solutions, and as much as I like and use open source things, for this application it might be better to get an inexpensive commercial solution, like one from SuperCircuits or similar vendor who does this kind of thing professionally. Some of those commercial solutions are Linux-based, and some might even be ZoneMinder-based, but you'll get commercial support and that might make the difference between evidence gained from the cameras being accepted or not (depending upon whether you want video from these cameras to be recorded and available to law enforcement). Our cameras aren't 'security' cameras in that sense, and so it made sense to roll our own for our application. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 07:56 PM, Jerry Franz wrote: On 05/17/2011 03:06 AM, John Doe wrote: Maybe all the non-technical discussions could go into a CentOS Politics/Philosophy new list...? And on that note, some required reading for everyone in this floating flame war. Don't skim it - read it. http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html IRC channels and mailing lists are self-moderating with scale, because as the signal to noise ratio gets worse, people start to drop off, until it gets better, so people join, and so it gets worse. You get these sort of oscillating patterns. But it's self-correcting. Who needs moderators? :-p Interesting stuff about core groups and 'paranoid leaders that are good at identifying external enemies' - gee Shirky, did you have to put it that way? ;-P ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following: snip [I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by 'Radu Gheorghiu' was coming, about 'waiting for somebody to come and fill their pockets', I would have spent it productively instead. I think hughesjr was right with his comment that speaking here is just not worth it --- I'd rather get work done than talk in such a hostile environment] -- Russ herrold Don't feel too bad... Out of the thousands of CentOS users, and the hundreds subscribed to this list, I only see a dozen or so people complaining You could be producing happy rainbows out of thin air, and you would probably still have a few percentage points of the users complaining Just remember that although most are silent, they are being silent so you can get something done besides having to defend yourselves... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
on 5/16/2011 2:45 PM cen...@911networks.com spake the following: On Mon, 16 May 2011 13:47:30 -0500 Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote: Can't you ungrateful bastards take the free software I make by following the licensing requirements and be happy with that? Johnny please don't take this personally. I don't know who came with the expression: When you fight with a pig, you both get dirty - but the pig likes it They like it and your blood pressure rise. Not worth it. Don't listen to them. PS. I'm one of the silent majority! I run a few v4 and v5. Thanks for the hard work. +11 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
Scott Silva wrote: on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following: snip [I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by 'Radu Gheorghiu' was coming, about 'waiting for somebody to come and fill their pockets', I would have spent it productively instead. I think hughesjr was right with his comment that speaking here is just not worth it --- I'd rather get work done than talk in such a hostile environment] Don't feel too bad... Out of the thousands of CentOS users, and the hundreds subscribed to this list, I only see a dozen or so people complainingYou could be producing happy rainbows out of thin air, and you would probably still have a few percentage points of the users complaining There will be *no* happy rainbows here, and if you bring in unicorns, *then* you'll see flames. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Video Surveillance SW on CentOS
On 5/17/2011 8:33 AM, Lanny Marcus wrote: I suggested to our Homeowners Association that we begin a Private Forum (phpBB) and web site. That suggestion has been well received and we will proceed with that. Now, I have become involved in a much more complex and important project, which is Video Surveillance, for the entrance to our subdivision. I Googled and found two (2) things for Linux that seem to be OK: (a) ZoneMinder http://www.zoneminder.com/ (b) Motion http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome Both are licensed under the GPL. Motion is available from the RPMForge Repository, which is a big plus, for installation, upgrades and removal. ZoneMinder seems to be a much more active project. Used zoneminder in the past may be a bit of overkill for your application. I would appreciate Feedback, from anyone who has used either or both of these programs. Pros and Cons? Check out Tiger Direct they sell Night Owl system for less the $300. Maybe they can't do everything but for easy of use, setup, maintenance etc well worth the trade off. Trust me it'll save on the Lanny the camera server isn't working, again calls :) I've also had success with Geo Vision but it is ... dare I say Windows based. Also, if anyone has other Software to recommend, to run on CentOS, that information will be appreciated. If you don't want to run it on CentOS but are looking for a Linux solution LinuxMCE may be worth a look. Never used it but looks interesting. The idea is to have at least two (2) cameras. One for Arrivals and One for Departures. Cheers ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 07:56:59 AM Jerry Franz wrote: On 05/17/2011 03:06 AM, John Doe wrote: Maybe all the non-technical discussions could go into a CentOS Politics/Philosophy new list...? And on that note, some required reading for everyone in this floating flame war. Don't skim it - read it. That is a good read; particularly the piece about the probability of a group asking for a moderator is directly proportional to the age of the group (not an exact quote). Thanks for posting. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
Lamar Owen wrote: On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 07:56:59 AM Jerry Franz wrote: On 05/17/2011 03:06 AM, John Doe wrote: Maybe all the non-technical discussions could go into a CentOS Politics/Philosophy new list...? And on that note, some required reading for everyone in this floating flame war. Don't skim it - read it. That is a good read; particularly the piece about the probability of a group asking for a moderator is directly proportional to the age of the group (not an exact quote). If we *really* need a moderator, here's an option: soc.religion.paganism has a robomoderator; on topic posts get autoapproved, obviously off-topic get bounced, and if there's any question, they get randomly bounced to a configurable number of human moderators, allowing for load balancing on the humans (and vacations, sick time, etc). mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:33:37 AM m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: If we *really* need a moderator, here's an option: soc.religion.paganism has a robomoderator; on topic posts get autoapproved, obviously off-topic get bounced, and if there's any question, they get randomly bounced to a configurable number of human moderators, allowing for load balancing on the humans (and vacations, sick time, etc). I had actually thought along the lines of the IRC centbot..just need IBM's Watson to do the decode of the post, and fire up a centbot e-mail based on it. Banning the thread in mailman after the centbot posts would be extra good. The hard part is the 'IBM's Watson doing the decode' . Although this sounds like a job for a Bayesian filter, really. Just need to feed the filter the CentOS list archives in their entirety, and categorize them Either that or adopt the Slashdot method of moderation: 'hey, you get five days, but if you reply to the thread you get no more' ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] securing sshd with selinux
--On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 03:00:43 PM +0200 Hajo Locke hajo.lo...@gmx.de wrote: dont have experience with selinux, but i want to know if it would be a practicable way to secure sshd with selinux. [snip] Do your users need full ssh access or just scp/sftp? You mention php/perl, but it's not clear if they need to be able to upload scripts that use those to render their web pages, or if they're needed interactively. (See also the last paragraph at the bottom of this email.) If they just need scp/sftp, then a really nice solution is to use Subsystem sftp internal-sftp ChrootDirectory /var/some-web-dir/%u in your sshd_config file. You don't have the usual headaches associated with setting up chroot environments, your users can only see their own files, and you can point apache at that hierarchy to serve their pages. For a username 'joe' with group 'web' with a nominal home directory of /home/joe, the setup would then consist of: install -d -m755 -o root -g root /var/some-web-dir/joe install -d -m755 -o root -g root /var/some-web-dir/joe/home install -d -m755 -o joe -g web /var/some-web-dir/joe/home/joe You can use the above directory instead of public_html if you want all their files to be visible, or create a public_html under that directory otherwise. Another option is to create both a public_html and a logs directory, and then arrange for the apache logs for that user to be copied there. You would still need to evaluate whether, in your environment, this is sufficient for them uploading php/perl scripts and having them *execute* in an appropriate and secure manner under apache. Devin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I stumble on weird results. With my filelist, I try to do cat list | xargs vim ...to edit the files listed in the file list. Here's what happens: [root@lasso2 tempdir]# ls -l total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 17 18:28 a -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 17 18:28 b -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3 May 17 18:31 c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12 May 17 18:43 list [root@lasso2 tempdir]# cat list ./a ./b ./c [root@lasso2 tempdir]# cat list | xargs vim 3 files to edit Vim: Warning: Input is not from a terminal Ok, so far, so good. And after this, the file a opens, as expected. However, the contents show as all uppercase. And everything I write is uppercase too. I can move to the next file (:n) even though the command shows as uppercase (:N). I cannot quit vim, however. When I do :q, I get blank screen, and I have to close the terminal window. If I do instead cat list | xargs less ...it works as expected. And with cat list | xargs vi ...(in a fresh terminal window), the editing goes just perfect, but when I quit vi, the terminal will not show the commands I write, and the display gets garbled (no newlines etc.). What is happening? - Jussi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux) (not)
Johnny Hughes wrote: On 05/17/2011 09:46 AM, Scott Silva wrote: on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following: snip [I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by 'Radu Gheorghiu' was coming, about 'waiting for somebody to come and fill their pockets', I would have spent it productively instead. I think hughesjr was right with his comment that speaking here is just not worth it --- I'd rather get work done than talk in such a hostile environment] Don't feel too bad... Out of the thousands of CentOS users, and the hundreds subscribed to this list, I only see a dozen or so people complaining snip It is *Millions* of CentOS users :D And there are 4200 subscribed to this list. Must be millions: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/16/2022259/Microsoft-To-Support-CentOS-Linux-In-Hyper-V M$ wouldn't even see anything smaller. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On 5/17/2011 12:19 PM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I stumble on weird results. With my filelist, I try to do cat list | xargs vim Try this: vim `cat list` -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
--On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 07:19:45 PM +0300 Jussi Hirvi listmem...@greenspot.fi wrote: [root@lasso2 tempdir]# cat list | xargs vim 3 files to edit Vim: Warning: Input is not from a terminal Ok, so far, so good. And after this, the file a opens, as expected. However, the contents show as all uppercase. And everything I write is uppercase too. I can move to the next file (:n) even though the command shows as uppercase (:N). I cannot quit vim, however. When I do :q, I get blank screen, and I have to close the terminal window. I don't *know* the answer, but my suspicion is that this is related to very old compatibility code in the bowels of vim or its dependent libraries (including other things in the call stack including getty), having to do with terminals that are not capable of handling lower case letters. A piece of history: Years back, there were upper-case-only terminals. Later there was mixed case, but enough of the upper-case-only ones that UNIX needed to allow for it. For example, at the login prompt if you put your login ID as all upper case the terminal will default to all upper case (and do some case conversion of your password as well, iirc). My suspicion is that since vim is detecting that its input is not a tty, something in it or its libraries is reverting back to this old behavior. However it's been so long since there was a signficant (or any?) user base that used this feature, vim's capabilities in this respect have suffered from bit rot due to lack of testing this feature. Devin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/17/2011 12:19 PM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I stumble on weird results. With my filelist, I try to do cat list | xargs vim ...to edit the files listed in the file list. Here's what happens: [root@lasso2 tempdir]# ls -l total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 17 18:28 a -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 17 18:28 b -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3 May 17 18:31 c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12 May 17 18:43 list [root@lasso2 tempdir]# cat list ./a ./b ./c [root@lasso2 tempdir]# cat list | xargs vim 3 files to edit Vim: Warning: Input is not from a terminal Ok, so far, so good. And after this, the file a opens, as expected. However, the contents show as all uppercase. And everything I write is uppercase too. I can move to the next file (:n) even though the command shows as uppercase (:N). I cannot quit vim, however. When I do :q, I get blank screen, and I have to close the terminal window. If I do instead cat list | xargs less ...it works as expected. And with cat list | xargs vi ...(in a fresh terminal window), the editing goes just perfect, but when I quit vi, the terminal will not show the commands I write, and the display gets garbled (no newlines etc.). What is happening? Do this instead: vi `cat list` cat list - gives the output of the file which is the three filenames `cat list` - executes this command and feeds its output to the input of your next command So the resulting command ends up being vi ./a ./b ./c which opens up the 'a' file and you will be able to move to the next file with the :n option. xargs is effectively running a for loop on each unique item in the output of the previous command (cat list). vi expects to be run on one file at a time and needs to be associated with a terminal session in prder to be able to get input from you (either text or commands) to apply to the file. - -- David Goldsmith -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3SpE0ACgkQ417vU8/9QflaoQCdH0YmjkeVG4QypCWRZFPpDBD4 N0QAn3dCourgI97OpthGJFa7FTWS/f5t =lkQA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
In article 4dd2a021.4080...@greenspot.fi, Jussi Hirvi listmem...@greenspot.fi wrote: There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I stumble on weird results. With my filelist, I try to do cat list | xargs vim ...to edit the files listed in the file list. Here's what happens: [root@lasso2 tempdir]# ls -l total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 17 18:28 a -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 17 18:28 b -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3 May 17 18:31 c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12 May 17 18:43 list [root@lasso2 tempdir]# cat list ./a ./b ./c [root@lasso2 tempdir]# cat list | xargs vim 3 files to edit Vim: Warning: Input is not from a terminal Ok, so far, so good. And after this, the file a opens, as expected. However, the contents show as all uppercase. And everything I write is uppercase too. I can move to the next file (:n) even though the command shows as uppercase (:N). I cannot quit vim, however. When I do :q, I get blank screen, and I have to close the terminal window. If I do instead cat list | xargs less ...it works as expected. And with cat list | xargs vi ...(in a fresh terminal window), the editing goes just perfect, but when I quit vi, the terminal will not show the commands I write, and the display gets garbled (no newlines etc.). What is happening? The problem is that standard input is being used to send the list of files to xargs, and vi inherits this standard input. That's why it warns that input is not from a terminal - it normally expects the user input to be on standard input. Try this instead: vim `cat list` This will work provided none of the files has a space in its name or directory path. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: t...@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: t...@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] yum in test mode and downgrade of a package
Is it possible to run yum in test mode?Something similar to rpm --test ... Also, is it possible to downgrade a package? Say we install a package and we find this new version creates problem for an application running on the server and we need to go back to a previous version. Thanks, -- Bernard ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum in test mode and downgrade of a package
Bernard Fay wrote: Is it possible to run yum in test mode?Something similar to rpm --test ... yum -? snip usage: yum [options] COMMAND List of Commands: check-update Check for available package updates clean Remove cached data deplistList a package's dependencies downgrade downgrade a package snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
we do not need post by post moderation so to speak we need several lists... two of which are babies / horses behind list adult list when you prove your centos helpfulness community worth on the babies list, you get to be in the adult list this would seem easier to admin... i would actually consider being *one* of the admins in an implementation like that... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] securing sshd with selinux
On 17/05/11 14:00, Hajo Locke wrote: Hello List, dont have experience with selinux, but i want to know if it would be a practicable way to secure sshd with selinux. sshd runs unconfined, at least on el5: $ ps Zax | grep sshd system_u:system_r:unconfined_t:SystemLow-SystemHigh 2918 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
While this sounds like humorous way to deal with the problem, what about all of us silent users who just watch the list for news and generally ignore the bonus nonsense that makes the list... We the silent would miss out on important news... On 5/17/2011 1:27 PM, R - elists wrote: we do not need post by post moderation so to speak we need several lists... two of which are babies / horses behind list adult list when you prove your centos helpfulness community worth on the babies list, you get to be in the adult list this would seem easier to admin... i would actually consider being *one* of the admins in an implementation like that... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Why is iptables configured to accept packets on ports 50 and 51?
[root@hwdltsaloli ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables # Firewall configuration written by system-config-securitylevel # Manual customization of this file is not recommended. *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :RH-Firewall-1-INPUT - [0:0] -A INPUT -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A FORWARD -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type any -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT [root@hwdltsaloli ~]# lsof -i:50 [root@hwdltsaloli ~]# lsof -i:51 [root@hwdltsaloli ~]# /etc/services says: re-mail-ck 50/tcp # Remote Mail Checking Protocol re-mail-ck 50/udp # Remote Mail Checking Protocol la-maint51/tcp # la-maint51/udp # IMP Logical Address Maintenance Google turns up RMCP is a simple lightweight DP protocol for checking if you have mail on a server A quick Google search failed to turn up what is IMP Logical Address Maintenance Why is this in the default iptables configuration? Thanks, Aleksey ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Video Surveillance SW on CentOS
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote: I suggested to our Homeowners Association that we begin a Private Forum (phpBB) and web site. That suggestion has been well received and we will proceed with that. Now, I have become involved in a much more complex and important project, which is Video Surveillance, for the entrance to our subdivision. A very special THANK YOU, to each of these people, for replying and for the very valuable information you provided: M. Roth, Lamar Owen, Dan Carl, and Brent L. Bates Deeply appreciated! I am going to make a Text file, with all of your replies, save it on my hard drive and then Email it to the neighbor who is in charge (an E.E. for one of the cell phone providers here in Colombia) of this project. Many excellent suggestions and comments were made, and I (and he) will be studying them, slowly. @M. Roth - We live in Colombia, South America. As I recall, there are Gated Communities in the states too. The police cannot be everywhere. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Why is iptables configured to accept packets on ports 50 and 51?
2011/5/17 Aleksey Tsalolikhin atsaloli.t...@gmail.com: [root@hwdltsaloli ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables # Firewall configuration written by system-config-securitylevel # Manual customization of this file is not recommended. *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :RH-Firewall-1-INPUT - [0:0] -A INPUT -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A FORWARD -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type any -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPsec ? -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Why is iptables configured to accept packets on ports 50 and 51?
-A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT That's _protocol_ 50 and 51; not ports 50 and 51 % grep '5[01]' /etc/protocols esp 50 ESP # Encap Security Payload ah 51 AH # Authentication Header IPSec traffic. -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: While this sounds like humorous way to deal with the problem, what about all of us silent users who just watch the list for news and generally ignore the bonus nonsense that makes the list... We the silent would miss out on important news... Clearly, this would apply to the POSTING not reading abilities. AND, we would necessarily start out with adult posting abilities. What needs development: 1: After some time, if my posts irritate you (or yours me) then we post to the centos-modera...@centos.org address (currently non-existent), with a message subject of KARMA PLUS or KARMA MINUS and a message body of a name; 2: said name has their Karma adjusted accordingly. 3: At some configurable threshold of negative Karma, my (or your) posting rights turn off and we become a moderated poster. 4: If there is no moderator, we're made mute. 5: Every week, the negative Karma scores have +1 added; making the moderated status temporary. 6: No poster can adjust the karma of another poster more than once per week. It ain't a perfect specification, but it'd be an improvement on what we have. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Why is iptables configured to accept packets on ports 50 and 51?
Hi, On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 11:13 -0700, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: [root@hwdltsaloli ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables # Firewall configuration written by system-config-securitylevel # Manual customization of this file is not recommended. *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :RH-Firewall-1-INPUT - [0:0] -A INPUT -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A FORWARD -j RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type any -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 50 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p 51 -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT [root@hwdltsaloli ~]# lsof -i:50 [root@hwdltsaloli ~]# lsof -i:51 [root@hwdltsaloli ~]# /etc/services says: re-mail-ck 50/tcp # Remote Mail Checking Protocol re-mail-ck 50/udp # Remote Mail Checking Protocol la-maint51/tcp # la-maint51/udp # IMP Logical Address Maintenance Google turns up RMCP is a simple lightweight DP protocol for checking if you have mail on a server A quick Google search failed to turn up what is IMP Logical Address Maintenance The -p you are referring to is NOT a port, but a protocol (number), 50 and 51 stand for IPSEC protocols (AH and ESP). [michel@deltaflyer ~]$ cat /etc/protocols | grep 51 ah 51 AH # Authentication Header ipv6-auth 51 IPv6-Auth # Authentication Header for IPv6 (not in official list) [michel@deltaflyer ~]$ cat /etc/protocols | grep 50 esp 50 ESP # Encap Security Payload ipv6-crypt 50 IPv6-Crypt # Encryption Header for IPv6 (not in official list) Please read 'man iptables' :) Regards, Michel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Why is iptables configured to accept packets on ports 50 and 51?
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Michel van Deventer mic...@van.deventer.cx wrote: The -p you are referring to is NOT a port, but a protocol (number), 50 and 51 stand for IPSEC protocols (AH and ESP). Doh! *facepalm* Thanks, Stephen, Eero and Michel. I appreciate your help. :) Best, Aleksey ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux) (not)
on 5/17/2011 9:36 AM m.r...@5-cent.us spake the following: Johnny Hughes wrote: On 05/17/2011 09:46 AM, Scott Silva wrote: on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following: snip [I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by 'Radu Gheorghiu' was coming, about 'waiting for somebody to come and fill their pockets', I would have spent it productively instead. I think hughesjr was right with his comment that speaking here is just not worth it --- I'd rather get work done than talk in such a hostile environment] Don't feel too bad... Out of the thousands of CentOS users, and the hundreds subscribed to this list, I only see a dozen or so people complaining snip It is *Millions* of CentOS users :D And there are 4200 subscribed to this list. Must be millions: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/16/2022259/Microsoft-To-Support-CentOS-Linux-In-Hyper-V M$ wouldn't even see anything smaller. mark The buyout will be next... ;) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] a hardware question
We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On 17.5.2011 20:21, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: While this sounds like humorous way to deal with the problem, what about all of us silent users who just watch the list for news and generally ignore the bonus nonsense that makes the list... We the silent would miss out on important news... Clearly, this would apply to the POSTING not reading abilities. AND, we would necessarily start out with adult posting abilities. What needs development: 1: After some time, if my posts irritate you (or yours me) then we post to the centos-modera...@centos.org address (currently non-existent), with a message subject of KARMA PLUS or KARMA MINUS and a message body of a name; 2: said name has their Karma adjusted accordingly. 3: At some configurable threshold of negative Karma, my (or your) posting rights turn off and we become a moderated poster. 4: If there is no moderator, we're made mute. 5: Every week, the negative Karma scores have +1 added; making the moderated status temporary. 6: No poster can adjust the karma of another poster more than once per week. It ain't a perfect specification, but it'd be an improvement on what we have. I am mostly silent and I am not pleased about many things that were said, but this is too much. I have to raise my voice. If I understand correctly the things some people say is annoying you, so you think about ways to censoring them. Quite a low level of tolerance and thats baddest karma. Maybe some of you feel assaulted, maybe some of you feel annoyed. I think pretty much everyone get peeved by threads like this but likely for different reasons. So many notions, so many slanting views, and also so many self conceptions. And this is a good thing in my opinion. Do not kill the C(ommunity) in CentOS, please. Yes the traffic to noise ratio has been quite low lately, some things are repeated over and over and this is annoying me too, but the Noise ratio is quite high with purely technical things too, IMO. People could read manuals, people could search archives, etc. But I am drifting, back on topic: Please stop thinking about moderating == censoring. -- Kind Regards, Markus Falb signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? From a fast furious google-fu workout, I conclude that the System Common Planar is in fact the motherboard. Look at your configuration options ... Do you see another motherboard item there? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? From a fast furious google-fu workout, I conclude that the System Common Planar is in fact the motherboard. Look at your configuration options ... Do you see another motherboard item there? No... but I was assuming the chassis, along with the embedded slots, NIC, etc, were all one item with the base price. If they're charging for a m/b in addition, I'm appalled. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
At Tue, 17 May 2011 16:06:09 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? From a fast furious google-fu workout, I conclude that the System Common Planar is in fact the motherboard. Look at your configuration options ... Do you see another motherboard item there? No... but I was assuming the chassis, along with the embedded slots, NIC, etc, were all one item with the base price. If they're charging for a m/b in addition, I'm appalled. Are these 'blade' servers? If so, this 'motherboard' could be the backpane the servers 'plug into'. That is there is the large chassis that can hold a bunch of 1U servers. Instead of the 1U servers just being a something that mounts in a standard rack, with hot-swap (?) disks and some running lights on the front and the usual collection of places to plug in Ethernet, serial console, keyboard/mouse, USB, and power cord, there is some sort of grand connector thing that mates to a back plane connector, which in turn has a common place for a fat power cord, plus a built in Ethernet Switch and KVM / console switch. Or something like that. Just guessing here though... mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
Robert Heller wrote: At Tue, 17 May 2011 16:06:09 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? From a fast furious google-fu workout, I conclude that the System Common Planar is in fact the motherboard. Look at your configuration options ... Do you see another motherboard item there? No... but I was assuming the chassis, along with the embedded slots, NIC, etc, were all one item with the base price. If they're charging for a m/b in addition, I'm appalled. Are these 'blade' servers? If so, this 'motherboard' could be the No, just an ordinary 1U server. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
On 05/17/11 12:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? indeed, Planar is IBM-speak for a mainboard. IBM has a lot of their own unique terminology. For ages disk drives were called DASD (Direct Access Storage Devices). generally, on the IBM 'express' configurations, everything required is included in the base configuration. sounds like you were off in their custom build land, which is mostly intended for bulk orders and everything is /a la carte/. I *highly* recommend working with an IBM VAR who will sort out the configurations for you. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
On May 17, 2011, at 12:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? If all you ned are plain old servers, check Aberdeen. They repackage SuperMicro and have great support. - aurf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
John R Pierce wrote: On 05/17/11 12:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? indeed, Planar is IBM-speak for a mainboard. IBM has a lot of their own unique terminology. For ages disk drives were called DASD (Direct Access Storage Devices). Yup. I started on mainframes, and can think DASD. generally, on the IBM 'express' configurations, everything required is included in the base configuration. sounds like you were off in their custom build land, which is mostly intended for bulk orders and everything is /a la carte/. I got the base configuration, I thought, for something like $2100+, and was customizing it. I wonder what I got for that amount - the case, and (as my co-worker said) the IBM logo? I *highly* recommend working with an IBM VAR who will sort out the configurations for you. Yeah, well, we probably won't go with them; we'll probably do Dell, but I was looking around - when we get to ordering, we're required to have three competing bids. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
Indeed I agree, we are a full IBM shop and after working with there gear for a very long time, I also suggest the same, this will ensure you get everything you need and all the correct parts to get you back asap. Its just a safe bet with IBM. Aly --Original Message-- From: John R Pierce Sender: centos-boun...@centos.org To: centos@centos.org ReplyTo: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] a hardware question Sent: May 17, 2011 4:47 PM On 05/17/11 12:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? indeed, Planar is IBM-speak for a mainboard. IBM has a lot of their own unique terminology. For ages disk drives were called DASD (Direct Access Storage Devices). generally, on the IBM 'express' configurations, everything required is included in the base configuration. sounds like you were off in their custom build land, which is mostly intended for bulk orders and everything is /a la carte/. I *highly* recommend working with an IBM VAR who will sort out the configurations for you. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? mark ___ If you're not too brand-aware then I would highly recommend SuperMicro. We also switched over to SuperMicro a few years ago after having just too many problems with Dell, to keep clients happy. I've never looked back since. They're hardware is top quality and and to confusing in terms of the terminology they use. It's so easy that even our junior techs could build them :) And their chassis are not flimsy, or over-crowded as many other brands sometimes are. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 01:52:37 PM aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: If all you ned are plain old servers, check Aberdeen. They repackage SuperMicro and have great support. I'd just PM'd a message to OP with this message. We have a slew of SuperMicros and they have been very stable and robust. Also good luck with SiliconMechanics. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our Dell PE 1950's died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and suddenly there's another $800 for a system common planar that's required. Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what it is? I mean, it's not like it's the motherboard, right? If you're not too brand-aware then I would highly recommend SuperMicro. We also switched over to SuperMicro a few years ago after having just too many problems with Dell, to keep clients happy. I've Actually, we really like Dell. The servers that died are four or five years old, and were only under a now-expired warranty. All had the same error (E171F PCIE fatal error B0 D3 F0), which indicates a pci-x error, which is weird. And that all of them failed within a week suggests, to me, a firmware error, maybe a counter that rolled over, or ran past the end. And I not only got a Dell rep to chat about it, he even opened a case, knowing they were out of warranty. Maybe it's 'cause we're US gov't, but still never looked back since. They're hardware is top quality and and to confusing in terms of the terminology they use. It's so easy that even our junior techs could build them :) And their chassis are not flimsy, or over-crowded as many other brands sometimes are. The other brand we've bought is Penguin, who are ok, too. mark with a cute, fuzzy penguin w/ each server... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux) (not)
On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 02:58 AM, Scott Silva wrote: on 5/17/2011 9:36 AM m.r...@5-cent.us spake the following: Johnny Hughes wrote: On 05/17/2011 09:46 AM, Scott Silva wrote: on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following: snip [I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by 'Radu Gheorghiu' was coming, about 'waiting for somebody to come and fill their pockets', I would have spent it productively instead. I think hughesjr was right with his comment that speaking here is just not worth it --- I'd rather get work done than talk in such a hostile environment] Don't feel too bad... Out of the thousands of CentOS users, and the hundreds subscribed to this list, I only see a dozen or so people complaining snip It is *Millions* of CentOS users :D And there are 4200 subscribed to this list. Must be millions: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/16/2022259/Microsoft-To-Support-CentOS-Linux-In-Hyper-V M$ wouldn't even see anything smaller. mark The buyout will be next... ;) Please Johnny, don't sell us out! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem Making Tarballs
On 5/17/2011 12:49 AM, John J. Boyer wrote: Les, I installed the development tools and development libraries, as you suggested. I even tried to install packages x*.x86_64 There were some unresolved dependencies in the latter, so I used --skip-broken with yum. There was a report of conflicting files, so i don't know how much was actually installed. Anyway, when I run autogen.sh configure make on a read-only copy of the liblouis svn repository I get the following errors. ../libtool: line 826: X--tag=CC: command not found I think you had and error in the autoconf or configure step and missed it before you get here. Those X- items should have been edited into something else in the preprocessing steps. Not sure what autogen.sh is - what happens if you just run autoconf? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
Am 17.05.11 17:33, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: If we *really* need a moderator, here's an option: soc.religion.paganism has a robomoderator; on topic posts get autoapproved, obviously off-topic get bounced, and if there's any question, they get randomly bounced to a configurable number of human moderators, allowing for load balancing on the humans (and vacations, sick time, etc). Well, too much work for what it is worth. I once helped moderating a newsgroup and that is a task I at least won't do again. Still hoping for some common sense :) Cheers, Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:52:09AM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Well, too much work for what it is worth. I once helped moderating a newsgroup and that is a task I at least won't do again. Still hoping for some common sense :) +1 John -- The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. -- Friedrich Nietzsche pgpfTHDQNBTUK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
Am 17.05.11 13:37, schrieb Benjamin Franz: On 05/16/2011 02:44 PM, ne...@grayhatlabs.com wrote: I never thought sliced bread was all that great. Wouldn't it be better for people to donate money to help push things along faster? I mean if your really upset about how long its taken to come out why don't you donate some money to help the people who are working for free? Love to. Actually got approval from my company to do so years ago: The project donations page has been down (CentOS is currently reviewing our cash donation program. In the mean time we are not accepting any financial donations. We do appreciate though, if you want to - for example - help out with promo material. See our Wiki page on donations http://wiki.centos.org/Donate for more up to date information.) for around two years now. Which somehow seems to be a sign that money is not what is needed by the project. It is after all a project run by people which have normal jobs on the side. It is very hard to take dev complaints about how 'no one wants to contribute' seriously when the devs have avoided setting up an easy mechanism for people to contribute money *to the project* for years now. Money doesn't solve all problems (and creates some new ones of its own), but it can pay developers, buy new servers for development, and create other resources. We're still looking for people offering things like promo swag which can then be given away at fairs (especially things like preprinted DVDs, Shirts and other giveaway things). Maybe I should update that page to point at the wiki page http://wiki.centos.org/Donate which already has some of that stuff. Money is not really what the project is after. If they just want people to give them money personally (which some devs have, perhaps tongue in cheek, suggested on this list) with no accountability or expectation that that money actually specifically support the project, well, they can keep dreaming. I wonder which devs that should have been - well I haven't read this list for some time, so I probably overlooked it. Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem Making Tarballs
Les, Here's my autogen.sh file. #!/bin/sh # # autogen.sh glue for liblouis # # Requires: automake 1.9, autoconf 2.57+ # Conflicts: autoconf 2.13 set -e # Refresh GNU autotools toolchain. echo Cleaning autotools files... find -type d -name autom4te.cache -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf \; find -type f \( -name missing -o -name install-sh -o -name mkinstalldirs \ -o -name depcomp -o -name ltmain.sh -o -name configure \ -o -name config.sub -o -name config.guess -o -name config.h.in \ -o -name mdate-sh -o -name texinfo.tex \ -o -name Makefile.in -o -name aclocal.m4 \) -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f echo Running autoreconf... autoreconf --force --install exit 0 Again, this works fine on my home Linux machine, and even on Cygwin. Thanks, John On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:02:46PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/17/2011 12:49 AM, John J. Boyer wrote: Les, I installed the development tools and development libraries, as you suggested. I even tried to install packages x*.x86_64 There were some unresolved dependencies in the latter, so I used --skip-broken with yum. There was a report of conflicting files, so i don't know how much was actually installed. Anyway, when I run autogen.sh configure make on a read-only copy of the liblouis svn repository I get the following errors. ../libtool: line 826: X--tag=CC: command not found I think you had and error in the autoconf or configure step and missed it before you get here. Those X- items should have been edited into something else in the preprocessing steps. Not sure what autogen.sh is - what happens if you just run autoconf? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc. http://www.abilitiessoft.com Madison, Wisconsin USA Developing software for people with disabilities ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: On 05/15/2011 06:10 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Where is Ubuntu telling people exactly where they stand on producing a their new releases. What about Red Hat ... how about Fedora. I don't know about Ubuntu, I don't use it. Fedora, on the other hand publishes their schedule: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/15/Schedule And the release life cycle: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle And their release criteria: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/ReleaseCriteria And release engineering documentation, including the names of responsible persons and directions for getting involved: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering And standard operating procedures: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/SOP The release criteria includes a Bugzilla list for a release blocker bug which shows users what issues currently need to be resolved before the release. Users are very well informed about the state of the project. Fedora uses Koji to build packages. Users can view build logs in the Koji interface as well. After building packages, maintainers push to Bodhi, where users can test the package and indicate success or failure before the package is finally published. If CentOS were run even remotely like Fedora, these discussions wouldn't come up. There is no way that CentOS or any other REBUILD project can be run as DEVELOPMENT project where you can build as you like. Scan both mailing lists few months back where those differences were thoroughly explained. Look at the above. It was Johnny H who brought up the other distributions when he should've only chosen to compare CentOS to SL, by your standards. Whatever their reasons, the CentOS developers don't want to publish that information. Users can ask (as many have) but it's the decision of the developers and that's it. Bringing it up day after day isn't particularly productive but those who do so are free to do so - and their motives shouldn't be assumed to be negative. For those who'd like to see that policy change, bringing it up from time to time (once a year for example) might be worthwhile. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 17.5.2011 19.36, Bowie Bailey wrote: Try this: vim `cat list` Thanks, this really works! I tried it with all my combinations: OS X workstation by itself OS X workstation - ssh - CentOS 4 OS X workstation - ssh - CentOS 5 BTW, with the xargs command, all of these combinations give some problems. The cause may have something to do with my terminal settings. Anyway, now I can use `cat list`. - Jussi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
