[CentOS-docs] Request to Edit Wiki
Hello, I would like to contribute to the Wiki. A few things right off - I'd like to add to the Yum and RPM Tricks section and would also like to add information and tips on setting up CentOS machines for FPGA (Quartus/ISE/Modelsim) development. Also, I use CentOS on a day to day basis for development, and would be happy to document any useful tips I come across in the future. Mike Karasoff Sr. FPGA Engineer RGB Spectrum 950 Marina Village Pkwy. Alameda, CA 94501 (T) 510-995-1503 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Request to Edit Wiki
On 05/19/2011 01:02 AM, Mike Karasoff wrote:
Hello,
I would like to contribute to the Wiki. [...] would also like to add
information and tips on setting up CentOS machines for FPGA
(Quartus/ISE/Modelsim) development.
Would you mind sharing what you have in mind, as I am a bit confused on
one hand and extremely interested on the other hand ? We make heavy use
of Modelsim | Questa / Specman / VCS and all the centos setup is more
or less similar to
MGC_HOME=/apps/questasim/linux/mgls;export MGC_HOME
export PATH=${PATH}:/apps/questasim/linux
export MGLS_LICENSE_FILE=1704@ls4
export LICENSE_QUEUEING=yes
In other words, nothing Centos specific, everything works by default.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Request to Edit Wiki
Not everything works by default. For instance, JTAG programmers for the FPGA
tools. I've had to set up some undocumented paths for SOPC and Nios
development. And there are some performance hacks that can speed builds.
I apologize for bothering the mailing list admins if the Centos Wiki isn't the
appropriate place for this.
From: Manuel Wolfshant [mailto:wo...@nobugconsulting.ro]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:06 PM
To: Mail list for wiki articles
Cc: Mike Karasoff
Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] Request to Edit Wiki
On 05/19/2011 01:02 AM, Mike Karasoff wrote:
Hello,
I would like to contribute to the Wiki. [...] would also like to add
information and tips on setting up CentOS machines for FPGA
(Quartus/ISE/Modelsim) development.
Would you mind sharing what you have in mind, as I am a bit confused on one
hand and extremely interested on the other hand ? We make heavy use of
Modelsim | Questa / Specman / VCS and all the centos setup is more or less
similar to
MGC_HOME=/apps/questasim/linux/mgls;export MGC_HOME
export PATH=${PATH}:/apps/questasim/linux
export MGLS_LICENSE_FILE=1704@ls4
export LICENSE_QUEUEING=yes
In other words, nothing Centos specific, everything works by default.
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0517 CentOS 5 x86_64 poppler Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0517
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0517.html
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x86_64:
0d2a35a24114ee209661f4a63db325ff poppler-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.i386.rpm
2ad5610d3a5c465b70d6bbe4ea02bb84 poppler-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.x86_64.rpm
6dc4b627c56943046a9fd282bc12053e poppler-devel-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.i386.rpm
df5c9fc738798b2315e9515706d5c846 poppler-devel-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.x86_64.rpm
51b83a5f350cd1ad87dacf77b97dd56f poppler-utils-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.x86_64.rpm
Source:
003d0dd8abbad2137f4f5618b81556b2 poppler-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.src.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0517 CentOS 5 i386 poppler Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0517
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0517.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
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i386:
de889c1f1b58b27047af23548fe611e1 poppler-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.i386.rpm
89ba327fbd3eb1ccb305a50147aa920c poppler-devel-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.i386.rpm
8850fd5d9d5cfc0b807b4dcca3af9a76 poppler-utils-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.i386.rpm
Source:
003d0dd8abbad2137f4f5618b81556b2 poppler-0.5.4-4.4.el5_6.17.src.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0514 CentOS 5 i386 nss_ldap Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0514
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0514.html
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10f1c028dda8d6da0b9d1b405b04d8be nss_ldap-253-37.el5_6.1.i386.rpm
Source:
1d0ae919fa2c1952dba05dca2c9a7dd6 nss_ldap-253-37.el5_6.1.src.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0513 CentOS 5 i386 ksh Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0513
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0513.html
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i386:
acf9b6d2a9f71521541af494883ccb67 ksh-20100202-1.el5_6.5.i386.rpm
Source:
9d51e91bea1dfc5a75c9d364567ea6af ksh-20100202-1.el5_6.5.src.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0513 CentOS 5 x86_64 ksh Update
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The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
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e85d3b67dea31c72f087b1dfe40ee668 ksh-20100202-1.el5_6.5.x86_64.rpm
Source:
9d51e91bea1dfc5a75c9d364567ea6af ksh-20100202-1.el5_6.5.src.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0512 CentOS 5 i386 mcelog Update
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4e4826b260464bf1ae5f5c9311c76557 mcelog-0.9pre-1.32.el5.src.rpm
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770b7960cc4a775b21bdc7c282c90a42 mcelog-0.9pre-1.32.el5.x86_64.rpm
Source:
4e4826b260464bf1ae5f5c9311c76557 mcelog-0.9pre-1.32.el5.src.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0817 CentOS 5 i386 system-config-network FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0817
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f9b76768ebaea9b23825f15cf345d4b4
system-config-network-1.3.99.19-2.el5.noarch.rpm
f84286c7f2e60751ca989f281727e49f
system-config-network-tui-1.3.99.19-2.el5.noarch.rpm
Source:
cb83437da1ec3b1a488c7b057380d143 system-config-network-1.3.99.19-2.el5.src.rpm
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0b183a0682008d8127e84544a6550556
system-config-network-1.3.99.19-2.el5.noarch.rpm
2be9f8f31ddccd2a0b8056f71dc137a8
system-config-network-tui-1.3.99.19-2.el5.noarch.rpm
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cb83437da1ec3b1a488c7b057380d143 system-config-network-1.3.99.19-2.el5.src.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0816 CentOS 5 x86_64 logrotate FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0816
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ee20978412e84a3278b4065fb16b61fd logrotate-3.7.4-12.x86_64.rpm
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0815 CentOS 5 x86_64 busybox FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0815
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b9e114cf2ee8faa6b61807170c49720e busybox-1.2.0-9.el5.x86_64.rpm
62c881a1bae28333e19dbffa2a4fed45 busybox-anaconda-1.2.0-9.el5.x86_64.rpm
Source:
7fc8c6fa3685063646f05c09c7aad1c3 busybox-1.2.0-9.el5.src.rpm
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703b27bf88b2312b4c54f5c53070aa6b busybox-1.2.0-9.el5.i386.rpm
2a9d424a1bd0b5ee7b70b9969ca17769 busybox-anaconda-1.2.0-9.el5.i386.rpm
Source:
7fc8c6fa3685063646f05c09c7aad1c3 busybox-1.2.0-9.el5.src.rpm
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25b5c00216413cc347940838bb3da030 busybox-1.2.0-9.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm
147d70afe29075469b83e6d416a34e0f busybox-anaconda-1.2.0-9.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm
Source:
8851671ba56fe5c0b2127ca50a35e482 busybox-1.2.0-9.el5.centos.src.rpm
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dist tag since the Summary of the SPEC file is changed for branding purposes.
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[CentOS-virt] KVM vs ESXi
Morning Everyone, I'm busy doing a rebuild of my home server and am tossing between VMware and KVM for this build. I already have experience with ESX, we use it at work, but I'm debating trying out KVM for a while. The server itself is a budget build using a Supermicro X8SAX board w/ i7-950 12GB RAM, LSI 3081 SAS RAID (1068e based), rolled into a NorcoTek 16 Bay SAS case. Not fancy but also decent enough for home use. I don't expect high performance out of this unit so unless the gear is hopelessly outclassed, I'm not in a position to entertain upgrading. Right now forking over $1000-$1500 on a $2000 system for a pair of higher end LSI/3ware/Acreca controller just isn't in the budget. ;-) My question to everyone are these: -How well does KVM support Windows Guests? I'm already running a Server 2008r2 and WHS 2011 (based on 08r2) machines at home which I want to consolidate into this box. -Does KVM have a concept of virtual switches and and are they tied to physical NICs? ESXi allows me to create a vSwitch that isn't tied to a physical NIC so I can create a DMZ that exists solely within the host system. I'd like to replicate that if possible. I know these are probably questions that I could answer on my own by RTFM but I have already, and never really got the answers I needed. Pretty much every how-to assumed I'd be doing basic stuff and not dabbling with advanced stuff. I also know that what's written doesn't always match what's in the field and you folks are the field. And with CentOS 6 just around the corner (no flame wars please, my nomex pants are at the cleaners :-P ) I'm wanting to know if it's worth holding off another month or so on finalizing my build. Thanks, -- Drew Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. --Marie Curie ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-virt] KVM vs ESXi
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nune...@gmail.com wrote: -Does KVM have a concept of virtual switches and and are they tied to physical NICs? ESXi allows me to create a vSwitch that isn't tied to a physical NIC so I can create a DMZ that exists solely within the host system. I'd like to replicate that if possible. Yes... You can use VirtManager to work with this feature... And in fact I'd say it's concept is *better*. KVM/libvirt just leverages the built-in virtual switching (bridging) support in Linux accessible through brctl. So you can create virtual bridges, tie ethernet devices to them, and have visibility into what's going on using standard tools like brctl and iproute2 tools if you'd like (instead of VirtManager). You can also use stuff like iptables to filter traffic going across bridges... Sad to admit it, but I have a Linux box functioning as a router which also runs KVM domains ... eth0 is a bridge port (so no IP address), the virtual switch br0 has both the router internal IP (.1) and the service-providing IP of the box (still the IP I used to manage the KVM host from before I was using it as the router), eth1 has multiple VLANs with IPs on our Fiber WAN and the local out-of-band network. The NICs of the guests are also attached to br0, naturally. And of course iptables is able to securely filter traffic across all that. It's a stopgap measure, but works flawlessly. If you want a NAT subnet, behind the scenes it's real Linux routing with iptables snat module (or masquerade). Your host-only network is a bridge without any hardware NICs attached as ports, only KVM NICs. And so on. Sublime! Eric PS, all the above is also true for running Xen on CentOS, though it comes with its own scripts for setting up the bridging instead of leveraging libvirt to do it ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-es] Consulta actualizaciones de Seguridad
El 18/05/2011 0:38, Santi Saez escribió: Hola! En una instalación por defecto no, lo acabo de confirmar en una CentOS 5.5 antes de actualizar a 5.6 y tras instalar el plugin dicha opción no está disponible. Quizás alguien conozca algún hack para hacerlo funcionar.. en tal caso, será una información muy bienvenida :) El amigo Jordi de systemadmin.es ha publicado hoy un post sobre yum-security: http://systemadmin.es/2011/05/gestion-de-las-actualizaciones-de-seguridad-con-yum-security En una busqueda rápida he encontrado un hack, pero el funcionamiento no es el mismo ya que depende de lo que el maintainer publique en el ChangeLog del .spec del paquete: http://code.google.com/p/yum-security-check/ Definitivamente parece que no existe ningún hack funcional para poder utilizar este plugin bajo CentOS.. Saludos, -- Santi Saez http://powerstack.org ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] xen y domain 0
buenos dias, ¿cual es el valor minimo de memoria ram que le puedo asignar a Domain 0? gracias ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] xen y domain 0
ces can wrote: buenos dias, ¿cual es el valor minimo de memoria ram que le puedo asignar a Domain 0? depende de cuántos domU tendrás y cuántos servicios corras en el dom0 si no corres absolutamente nada (como debe ser) y si tienes pocos domU... con unos 256 te sobrará por muchísimo... incluso puedes apretarle un poco y bajarle unos megas más. saludos epe gracias ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Revista Atix No 19 liberado
Me complace anunciar la liberación el número 19 de la Revista de software libre Atix (número 2 de la gestión 2011), esta disponible en nuestro sitio web http://revista.atixlibre.org/, es así que os invito a bajarla y disfrutar de su contenido, como siempre invitamos a enviarnos sus comentarios. Espero les agrade. salu2 Esteban -- Esteban Saavedra López, Ph.D CEO Opentelematics Bolivia estebansaave...@yahoo.com estebansaave...@gmail.com jesaave...@opentelematics.org Bolivia _ Te Invito a Visitarme y conocer mis Áreas de Investigación http://jesaavedra.opentelematics.org http://esteban.profesionales.org GPG Key ID: 0x0E96FE54 65A1 CEA6 712D 355B F9DD 5B62 DE1B 7381 0E96 FE54 _ ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Instalar centos en HP ML350: no formatea los discos
Yo estoy d acuerdo con lo que dices, el problema en estos equipos es que debes hacer primero el arreglo por disco, pero antes de esto te tengo que preguntar en realidad tienes una tarjeta de arreglo una smart array, de ser asi ingresa con F8 y creas el arreglo, de no ser asi si puedes hacer el arreglo por software. Raúl Eduardo Arboleda Zapata Ingeniero de Sistemas Unninca Cel +573 300 620 66 13 +573 312 288 90 86 Medellín, Antioquia Colombia, S.A. -Mensaje original- De: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] En nombre de Julio Martinez Enviado el: martes, 17 de mayo de 2011 09:32 p.m. Para: centos-es@centos.org Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] Instalar centos en HP ML350: no formatea los discos Marcel, disculpas si la aclaracion es demasiado basica para ti, pero hay que hacerla. -Una vez que el RAID por hardware esta creado, CentOS vera como un disco unico, (no hay necesidad de RAID por software).- descartado esto, paseate por los otros terminales para ver que info arroja, (presionando CTRL+ALT+F3 hasta CTRL+ALT+F6 ...creo) y compartela. Tambien algunas veces tarda un poco en construirse el RAID, y si lo intentas formatear mientras esta en construccion puede causar problemas (dependiendo del hardware), asegurate que primero haya terminado la construccion del RAID. Julio --- On Mon, 16/5/11, Marcel Gutierrez Gavonel gmarc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Marcel Gutierrez Gavonel gmarc...@gmail.com Subject: [CentOS-es] Instalar centos en HP ML350: no formatea los discos To: centos-es@centos.org Date: Monday, 16 May, 2011, 23:41 Saludos, estoy intentanto instalar Centos 5.6 en un servidor HP proliant ML350 G3 con 3 Gb de Ram un procesador de 2,6 GHZ y 5 discos duros scsi cada uno de 72.4 Gb que estan en Raid 5. al avanzar la instalacion en la parte que formatting/file system, la instalacion no avanza y se cuelga. En revisado el hardware con el cd smartstart y todo esta Ok, en vuelto a crear el arreglo y el volumen logico en raisd 5 y todo esta bien, he configurado el equipo para se instale Linux , pero se sigue paralizando en la parte que debe formatear los discos a pesar que puedo ver el volumen y crear las particiones, si hay alguna opcion que estoy obviando agradezco su apoyo. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS] Some thoughts about EL 6
Many people seem to wait for the announcement of CentOS 6.0, so I want to share some test results I did with SL 6.0.. The actual 6.0 kernel can NOT allocate tape buffers when the server is heavily loaded at least on some LSILogic hardware. There is a big problem of slab buffer increase that can cause reboot/freeze of the server under load. Reported by many and verified by me :-( So perhaps it's a good idea to wait for 6.1 for mission critical servers.. Gerhard Schneider -- Gerhard Schneidere-Mail:g...@ilsb.tuwien.ac.at Institute of Lightweight Design and Tel.: +43 1 58801 31716 Structural Biomechanics (E317) Fax.: +43 1 58801 31799 Vienna University of Technology / AustriaDVR: 0005886 A-1040 Wien, Gusshausstrasse 27-29 http://www.ilsb.tuwien.ac.at/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts about EL 6
Am 18.05.2011 10:15, schrieb Gerhard Schneider: Many people seem to wait for the announcement of CentOS 6.0, so I want to share some test results I did with SL 6.0.. The actual 6.0 kernel can NOT allocate tape buffers when the server is heavily loaded at least on some LSILogic hardware. There is a big problem of slab buffer increase that can cause reboot/freeze of the server under load. Reported by many and verified by me :-( So perhaps it's a good idea to wait for 6.1 for mission critical servers.. Is there any bugzilla report for this? SL or redhat? Thx Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] ServerRaid Driver compatibility with Centos
Hi all, Does anyone know that what driver verisons of the IBM ServeRaid family are supported by the different verisons of Centos? Many thanks regards! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
Tom H wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: On 05/15/2011 06:10 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Where is Ubuntu telling people exactly where they stand on producing a their new releases. What about Red Hat ... how about Fedora. I don't know about Ubuntu, I don't use it. Fedora, on the other hand publishes their schedule: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/15/Schedule And the release life cycle: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle And their release criteria: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/ReleaseCriteria And release engineering documentation, including the names of responsible persons and directions for getting involved: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering And standard operating procedures: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/SOP The release criteria includes a Bugzilla list for a release blocker bug which shows users what issues currently need to be resolved before the release. Users are very well informed about the state of the project. Fedora uses Koji to build packages. Users can view build logs in the Koji interface as well. After building packages, maintainers push to Bodhi, where users can test the package and indicate success or failure before the package is finally published. If CentOS were run even remotely like Fedora, these discussions wouldn't come up. There is no way that CentOS or any other REBUILD project can be run as DEVELOPMENT project where you can build as you like. Scan both mailing lists few months back where those differences were thoroughly explained. Look at the above. It was Johnny H who brought up the other distributions when he should've only chosen to compare CentOS to SL, by your standards. Whatever their reasons, the CentOS developers don't want to publish that information. Users can ask (as many have) but it's the decision of the developers and that's it. Bringing it up day after day isn't particularly productive but those who do so are free to do so - and their motives shouldn't be assumed to be negative. For those who'd like to see that policy change, bringing it up from time to time (once a year for example) might be worthwhile. Tom, you are way off the point I was making. RHEL, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, all other distro's are *developed* and can change at any time. You can track changes, contribute patches and track progress (if you have access). Anything you build at any point of time is exactly what you want. How ever you compile it, what you wanted is what you got. CentOS is *recreating* RHEL, and must/wants to make it *exactly* like RHEL is, as much as possible. There is no development (for 90-95% of the packages) to patch contributions, no we are changing our build environment for this release because this one is better. You are reverse engineering complete product. All of this was, at length, discussed on this or devel list, look it up if you can not wrap your head around this concept/problem. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Can't build Keepalived 1.2.1 on CentOS-4
Hello, I get this error when trying to build Keepalived 1.2.1 on a CentOS-4 box: # gcc -g -O2 (..) -D_WITH_LVS_ -D_WITH_VRRP_ -c smtp.c In file included from ../include/vrrp.h:31, from ../include/smtp.h:34, from smtp.c:27: *../include/vrrp_ipaddress.h:32:27: linux/if_addr.h: No such file or directory* In file included from ../include/vrrp.h:31, from ../include/smtp.h:34, from smtp.c:27: In a CentOS-5 box 'linux/if_addr.h' file is owned by kernel-headers package and I can build Keepalived 1.2.1 without problems, but in CentOS-4 there is no such file, how can I solve this? thanks! Regards, -- Santi Saez http://powerstack.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
Actually, we really like Dell. The servers that died are four or five years old, and were only under a now-expired warranty. All had the same error (E171F PCIE fatal error B0 D3 F0), which indicates a pci-x error, which is weird. And that all of them failed within a week suggests, to me, a firmware error, maybe a counter that rolled over, or ran past the end. And I not only got a Dell rep to chat about it, he even opened a case, knowing they were out of warranty. Maybe it's 'cause we're US gov't, but still I'd have done the same: Anything that drops four on the floor at your place can do so elsewhere... And I'd want to know why/how/what dropped those four *before* some in-warranty units proffered the same startling surprise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PnlWHdJGLM You do not want your customers saying things like this about your product line. HP learned its lesson on this one, we should do the same *before* the Instructive Experience nails us between the eyes. *hats off to the Dell guy*. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] KVM vs ESXi
Morning Everyone, I'm busy doing a rebuild of my home server and am tossing between VMware and KVM for this build. I already have experience with ESX, we use it at work, but I'm debating trying out KVM for a while. The server itself is a budget build using a Supermicro X8SAX board w/ i7-950 12GB RAM, LSI 3081 SAS RAID (1068e based), rolled into a NorcoTek 16 Bay SAS case. Not fancy but also decent enough for home use. I don't expect high performance out of this unit so unless the gear is hopelessly outclassed, I'm not in a position to entertain upgrading. Right now forking over $1000-$1500 on a $2000 system for a pair of higher end LSI/3ware/Acreca controller just isn't in the budget. ;-) My question to everyone are these: -How well does KVM support Windows Guests? I'm already running a Server 2008r2 and WHS 2011 (based on 08r2) machines at home which I want to consolidate into this box. -Does KVM have a concept of virtual switches and and are they tied to physical NICs? ESXi allows me to create a vSwitch that isn't tied to a physical NIC so I can create a DMZ that exists solely within the host system. I'd like to replicate that if possible. I know these are probably questions that I could answer on my own by RTFM but I have already, and never really got the answers I needed. Pretty much every how-to assumed I'd be doing basic stuff and not dabbling with advanced stuff. I also know that what's written doesn't always match what's in the field and you folks are the field. And with CentOS 6 just around the corner (no flame wars please, my nomex pants are at the cleaners :-P ) I'm wanting to know if it's worth holding off another month or so on finalizing my build. Thanks, -- Drew Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. --Marie Curie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On 5/18/11 5:05 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Tom, you are way off the point I was making. RHEL, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, all other distro's are *developed* and can change at any time. You can track changes, contribute patches and track progress (if you have access). Anything you build at any point of time is exactly what you want. How ever you compile it, what you wanted is what you got. There are closed software/OS development processes too. If your mindset is that closed is better, why are you even interested in Linux where most wouldn't exist and certainly not be as nice if it weren't open and had attracted otherwise unpredictable support and input. CentOS is *recreating* RHEL, and must/wants to make it *exactly* like RHEL is, as much as possible. There is no development (for 90-95% of the packages) to patch contributions, no we are changing our build environment for this release because this one is better. It was discussed, but that doesn't change anyone's mindset about open vs. closed processes or whether being more open and permitting community insight and participation would ultimately keep the project from going the way of Whitebox. Yet another public posting on the topic linked from http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20110516#news http://blog.2ndquadrant.com/en/2011/05/the-rise-and-fall-of-centos.html You are reverse engineering complete product. All of this was, at length, discussed on this or devel list, look it up if you can not wrap your head around this concept/problem. There's also a reasonable question about whether this process could be better automated, in which case it becomes typical software development for programs that solve the dependencies and find and assemble the requirements. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
There's also a reasonable question about whether this process could be better automated, How do you *automate* a system where the fundamental rules change 'without notice to users'? in which case it becomes typical software development for programs that solve the dependencies and find and assemble the requirements. Rebuilding somebody else's sources without their build environment isn't typical. It's MindReading 101. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 09:23:14 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote: Rebuilding somebody else's sources without their build environment isn't typical. It's MindReading 101. It's worse than that in the specific case of EL6. It's replicating the result without replicating the build system. It's a pretty well-known thing that upstream is building with Koji fed from a source code management system; CentOS is not as far as we know (and it's overkill anyway, unless you add several things to the distribution as SL does, and they're using Koji for SL6, and started learning Koji and setting up their buildsystem for 6 nearly a year ago). Koji in fact will not allow, by default, a 'normal' user to rebuild from source RPM, but requires building out of the SCM for normal users. The case of a 'from source RPM' rebuild is not Koji's forte. It's also fairly well-known that mock builds in koji and mock builds outside of koji can sometimes differ. Grep the archives of several lists to verify that; I've seen it before, but I don't have time at the moment to pull up the reference. I have a VAX to redisk and boot up ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 12:50 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: On 17.5.2011 19.36, Bowie Bailey wrote: Try this: vim `cat list` Thanks, this really works! I tried it with all my combinations: OS X workstation by itself OS X workstation - ssh - CentOS 4 OS X workstation - ssh - CentOS 5 BTW, with the xargs command, all of these combinations give some problems. The cause may have something to do with my terminal settings. Anyway, now I can use `cat list`. The problem is that you were screwing up vim's stdin. Using the method I gave you, you are just taking advantage of shell features to provide a list of filenames to vim on the command line. If your list looks like this: file1 file2 file3 Then when you do vim `cat list`, the shell expands it to this: $ vim file1 file2 file3 You can also do this: $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` or this: $ vim `find /some/dir -name '*.txt'` It works with any command that outputs a list of filenames. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Bowie Bailey Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:55 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim On 5/18/2011 12:50 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: On 17.5.2011 19.36, Bowie Bailey wrote: Try this: vim `cat list` Thanks, this really works! I tried it with all my combinations: OS X workstation by itself OS X workstation - ssh - CentOS 4 OS X workstation - ssh - CentOS 5 BTW, with the xargs command, all of these combinations give some problems. The cause may have something to do with my terminal settings. Anyway, now I can use `cat list`. The problem is that you were screwing up vim's stdin. Using the method I gave you, you are just taking advantage of shell features to provide a list of filenames to vim on the command line. If your list looks like this: file1 file2 file3 Then when you do vim `cat list`, the shell expands it to this: $ vim file1 file2 file3 You can also do this: $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` or this: $ vim `find /some/dir -name '*.txt'` It works with any command that outputs a list of filenames. Until you have a space in a filename. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 9:54 AM, Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Bowie Bailey Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:55 You can also do this: $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` or this: $ vim `find /some/dir -name '*.txt'` It works with any command that outputs a list of filenames. Until you have a space in a filename. True. But unless vim has a null-separator option for command line arguments, I don't know of a way to automate that case. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] sipwitch for Centos 5
Hi, someone have use or rebuild sipwitch on Centos 5.x? http://www.gnu.org/software/sipwitch/ http://pkgs.org/package/sipwitch-runtime Someone know where is (if exist) a rpm for centos5? Thanks for info ... and Thanks to All for the great Work, Centos5.6 is a great S.O. server! -- Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 18.5.2011 16.54, Bowie Bailey wrote: You can also do this: $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` That one can be accomplished in a simpler way: vim *.txt - Jussi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sipwitch for Centos 5
Hello Dario, On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 16:25 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: Hi, someone have use or rebuild sipwitch on Centos 5.x? Usually rebuilding Fedora SRPMS on CentOS works pretty well if the build dependencies aren't too complex and the package doesn't require very recent versions of those dependencies. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/14/Everything/source/SRPMS/sipwitch-0.8.4-2.fc14.src.rpm Regards, Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 10:26 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: On 18.5.2011 16.54, Bowie Bailey wrote: You can also do this: $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` That one can be accomplished in a simpler way: vim *.txt Yea, I thought about that after I typed it, but I left it in as an example of the general method. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 15:09:19 Bowie Bailey wrote: $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` or this: $ vim `find /some/dir -name '*.txt'` It works with any command that outputs a list of filenames. Until you have a space in a filename. True. But unless vim has a null-separator option for command line arguments, I don't know of a way to automate that case. How about just: $ vim *.txt or, if you need recursive: $ eval vim $(find /some/dir -type f -printf '%p ') (shell quotes expansions automatically, but you can still ensure output from find is appropriately quoted manually) -- Michael Gliwinski Henderson Group Information Services 9-11 Hightown Avenue, Newtownabby, BT36 4RT Phone: 028 9034 3319 ** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee and access to the email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing client engagement leter or contract. If you have received this email in error please notify supp...@henderson-group.com John Henderson (Holdings) Ltd Registered office: 9 Hightown Avenue, Mallusk, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, BT36 4RT. Registered in Northern Ireland Registration Number NI010588 Vat No.: 814 6399 12 * ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/18/11 5:05 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Tom, you are way off the point I was making. RHEL, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, all other distro's are *developed* and can change at any time. That's why I said he should've only chosen to compare CentOS to SL. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 05/17/2011 09:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I stumble on weird results. [...] The easy way for me is 'avoid the shell - use Perl instead': perl -e 'my @files = grep(!/^\s*$/,ARGV); chomp @files; system(vim,@files);' example_list.txt -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 10:42 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2011 15:09:19 Bowie Bailey wrote: $ vim `ls -1 *.txt` or this: $ vim `find /some/dir -name '*.txt'` It works with any command that outputs a list of filenames. Until you have a space in a filename. True. But unless vim has a null-separator option for command line arguments, I don't know of a way to automate that case. How about just: $ vim *.txt or, if you need recursive: $ eval vim $(find /some/dir -type f -printf '%p ') (shell quotes expansions automatically, but you can still ensure output from find is appropriately quoted manually) Interesting. I'm not sure what the eval is doing, but it works even with spaces in the filenames. Unfortunately, it won't work with the OP's original scenario (a file with a list of filenames to edit). -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 05/18/2011 08:06 AM, Benjamin Franz wrote: On 05/17/2011 09:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I stumble on weird results. [...] The easy way for me is 'avoid the shell - use Perl instead': perl -e 'my @files = grep(!/^\s*$/,ARGV); chomp @files; system(vim,@files);' example_list.txt Quick change to handle filenames that start with '-' as well: perl -e 'my @files = grep(!/^\s*$/,ARGV); chomp @files; system(vim,--,@files);' example_list.txt -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 05/17/2011 09:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I stumble on weird results. [...] what, so no-one is going to offer a better solution with emacs? I'm sure the ensuing debate could be fruitful and provide a refreshing change from the usual centos dev bashing... :-) [no please don't reply anything serious, just meant to make you smile] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 11:15 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: On 05/17/2011 09:19 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: There are some googlable ways to feed a list of filenames to vim, but I stumble on weird results. [...] what, so no-one is going to offer a better solution with emacs? I'm sure the ensuing debate could be fruitful and provide a refreshing change from the usual centos dev bashing... :-) Use emacs to send a list of filenames to vim? That would be an...interesting...solution! :-) -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
In article 4dd3e087.5060...@buc.com, Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com wrote: On 5/18/2011 10:42 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: How about just: $ vim *.txt or, if you need recursive: $ eval vim $(find /some/dir -type f -printf '%p ') (shell quotes expansions automatically, but you can still ensure output from find is appropriately quoted manually) Interesting. I'm not sure what the eval is doing, but it works even with spaces in the filenames. Unfortunately, it won't work with the OP's original scenario (a file with a list of filenames to edit). After a bit of experimentation, I found that this would work: $ eval vim $(sed 's/.*//' file) If this became a frequent requirement, perhaps an alias or function could be created. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: t...@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: t...@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 16:06:47 Bowie Bailey wrote: or, if you need recursive: $ eval vim $(find /some/dir -type f -printf '%p ') (shell quotes expansions automatically, but you can still ensure output from find is appropriately quoted manually) Interesting. I'm not sure what the eval is doing, but it works even with spaces in the filenames. Unfortunately, it won't work with the OP's original scenario (a file with a list of filenames to edit). eval just evaluates arguments and hence does the same argument splitting as shell does when it receives a command, you can see it if you do 'set -x' before running the command. In this case eval gets two arguments: 'vim' and '/some/dir/a /some/dir/b ', after splitting the command run is vim /some/dir/a /some/dir/b (quoted) which is why spaces, etc. are preserved. As for OP's original scenario, I left it out as you already answered it. Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): $ vim $( listfile) -- Michael Gliwinski Henderson Group Information Services 9-11 Hightown Avenue, Newtownabby, BT36 4RT Phone: 028 9034 3319 ** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee and access to the email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing client engagement leter or contract. If you have received this email in error please notify supp...@henderson-group.com John Henderson (Holdings) Ltd Registered office: 9 Hightown Avenue, Mallusk, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, BT36 4RT. Registered in Northern Ireland Registration Number NI010588 Vat No.: 814 6399 12 * ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On 5/18/2011 8:23 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: There's also a reasonable question about whether this process could be better automated, How do you *automate* a system where the fundamental rules change 'without notice to users'? You have the results you want to reproduce. You have a list of likely suspects for the components involved (some of which may be the same as your binary results). You have a way to test if your output is a reasonable match. The part in between can either be brute force trial and error, predictions based on hints from file or source change timestamps on the components and target outputs, looking at the library linkages you want to reproduce, or some combination thereof. The 'list of likely suspects' and where to find them might be hard to automate but it's something that might benefit from more eyes. in which case it becomes typical software development for programs that solve the dependencies and find and assemble the requirements. Rebuilding somebody else's sources without their build environment isn't typical. It's MindReading 101. Whether a computer program can simulate mindreading better than a person (reading someone else's mind)is still up in the air. My money would be on the computer going forward anyway, especially if speed is one of the ways you judge the results. Whether exposing the process to the community would ever result in such techniques being developed or even scaling out the brute force approach is equally speculation. The more fundamental question here is whether the current timeframes are a problem for anyone or if there is any need to change the existing process. And that discussion seems to be off limits with the only choice being to switch to a different disto or start a new project if you don't think the existing approach is perfect. At this point that discussion is probably counterproductive for this release, but the 'open is better' suggestions have always been brushed rudely aside. At least there _is_ another distro suitable at least for testing purposes. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
--On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 05:15:54 PM +0200 Nicolas Thierry-Mieg nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote: what, so no-one is going to offer a better solution with emacs? Never mind the emacs vs vi flamewars. (Of which I use both fluently.) Real Sysadmins Use ed(1). ;) Of course, trying to use ed with a list of files is just silly ... (Actually, knowing how to use ed saved my bacon more than once on SunOS4 systems where the machine was so hosed that it wouldn't load vi.) Devin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 11:34 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): $ vim $( listfile) That's one of those occasionally-useful tidbits that I will have completely forgotten about by the time I need to use it again! :-) -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
On 5/17/11, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: If we *really* need a moderator, here's an option: soc.religion.paganism has a robomoderator; on topic posts get autoapproved, obviously off-topic get bounced, and if there's any question, they get randomly bounced to a configurable number of human moderators, allowing for load balancing on the humans (and vacations, sick time, etc). As already said, this sounds really complicated. Coming from an IRC and vBB admin background, I'll suggest moderation using the reactive approach instead of a automated process. In the context of a ML, the signature could include a link with an unique subscriber/msg hash that triggers an email to moderators only if a threshold is reached. This limit actual moderation only to threads/posts that are really offensive to the point people are willing to actively flag it rather than rely on some automated process to decide if something's really off-topic or offensive. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts about EL 6
Is there any bugzilla report for this? SL or redhat? Thx Rainer Not from my side. I'm CentOS user - only testing 6.0 The tape issue has been discussed on the linux-scsi mailing list 6 months ago - including some fix - and there was a bug report for the Ubuntu 2.6.32 kernel. The slab issue has been discussed in the rhelv6-list in February. Sorry, but the large servers I used for testing are back in business with CentOS 5.6 after playing around for one week (it's my way to check that issues are not hardware related). Gerhard Schneider -- Gerhard Schneider Institute of Lightweight Design and e-Mail: g...@ilsb.tuwien.ac.at Structural Biomechanics (E317) Tel.: +43 664 60 588 3171 Vienna University of Technology / Austria Fax:+43 1 58801 31799 A-1040 Wien, Gusshausstrasse 27-29 http://www.ilsb.tuwien.ac.at/~gs/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts about EL 6
On 18.5.2011 18:34, Gerhard Schneider wrote: Is there any bugzilla report for this? SL or redhat? Thx Rainer Not from my side. I'm CentOS user - only testing 6.0 If you dont do a bugzilla, it wont improve. -- Kind Regards, Markus Falb signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 11:33 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 5/18/2011 11:34 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): $ vim $( listfile) That's one of those occasionally-useful tidbits that I will have completely forgotten about by the time I need to use it again! :-) Don't think of it as a special case. It is a combination of two generically useful simple operations. Unix, the shell, and vi are all about being able to reuse and combine simple steps instead of special-casing everything. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 12:58 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/18/2011 11:33 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 5/18/2011 11:34 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): $ vim $( listfile) That's one of those occasionally-useful tidbits that I will have completely forgotten about by the time I need to use it again! :-) Don't think of it as a special case. It is a combination of two generically useful simple operations. Unix, the shell, and vi are all about being able to reuse and combine simple steps instead of special-casing everything. Right. I was referring to the shell shortcut $( filename). Simple - Useful - and probably forgotten by the time I need it again. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 5/17/11, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: If we *really* need a moderator, here's an option: soc.religion.paganism has a robomoderator; on topic posts get autoapproved, obviously off-topic get bounced, and if there's any question, they get randomly bounced to a configurable number of human moderators, allowing for load balancing on the humans (and vacations, sick time, etc). As already said, this sounds really complicated. Coming from an IRC and vBB admin background, I'll suggest moderation using the reactive approach instead of a automated process. Not really. The perl script was written, um, around 1993 or '94, and it was based on one from talk.lang.russian? something like that. snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 12:02 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 5/18/2011 12:58 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/18/2011 11:33 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 5/18/2011 11:34 AM, Michael Gliwinski wrote: Note that there's also a shortcut for cat (without launching a subprocess): $ vim $( listfile) That's one of those occasionally-useful tidbits that I will have completely forgotten about by the time I need to use it again! :-) Don't think of it as a special case. It is a combination of two generically useful simple operations. Unix, the shell, and vi are all about being able to reuse and combine simple steps instead of special-casing everything. Right. I was referring to the shell shortcut $( filename). Simple - Useful - and probably forgotten by the time I need it again. That's the same thing I meant. It is $(command) which is the same as `command` where the output of the command replaces it on the command line before further evaluation. That's something you can use frequently. And ' filename' to control i/o redirection is something you can use even more frequently. So it's like doing '20i- esc' inside of vi to insert a dashed line. You don't have to know specifically that you can give a count with the insert command, you just know you can combine a count with any command. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] KVM vs ESXi
On 18.5.2011 14:58, Drew wrote: -Does KVM have a concept of virtual switches and and are they tied to physical NICs? ESXi allows me to create a vSwitch that isn't tied to a physical NIC so I can create a DMZ that exists solely within the host system. I'd like to replicate that if possible. A switch is basically a bridge built in hardware, isn't it ? Configure /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-brX and in the kvm config for the virtual machine do interface type='bridge' ... source bridge='brX'/ ... /interface -- Kind Regards, Markus Falb signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feed a list of filenames to vim
On 5/18/2011 1:26 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 5/18/2011 12:02 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: Right. I was referring to the shell shortcut $( filename). Simple - Useful - and probably forgotten by the time I need it again. That's the same thing I meant. It is $(command) which is the same as `command` where the output of the command replaces it on the command line before further evaluation. That's something you can use frequently. And ' filename' to control i/o redirection is something you can use even more frequently. So it's like doing '20i- esc' inside of vi to insert a dashed line. You don't have to know specifically that you can give a count with the insert command, you just know you can combine a count with any command. I see. I haven't done any serious shell programming in years, so I've forgotten most of the little stuff like this (if I ever knew it to begin with). -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On 05/18/2011 08:01 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: It was discussed, but that doesn't change anyone's mindset about open vs. closed processes or whether being more open and permitting community insight and participation would ultimately keep the project from going the way of Whitebox. Hello Les, CentOS is used on more web servers than Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Fedora combined ... it is not going anywhere. Also, the slight decrease that was happening in Linux in general (which was mirrored by CentOS) in October of 2010 is also corrected. http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-centos/all/all Facebook uses thousands of CentOS servers. They are quite happy with it. Amazon EC2 has thousands of CentOS servers. They are also quite happy with it. We just became a fully supported OS on Microsoft Hyper-V. Can we do a better job at some things, sure. But trust me, CentOS is going nowhere. Thanks, Johnny Hughes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ServerRaid Driver compatibility with Centos
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Reshiv Nayar reshiv.na...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know that what driver verisons of the IBM ServeRaid family are supported by the different verisons of Centos? The same ones supported by the equivalent versions of RHEL. IBM has a chart buried in their support site for this. -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy (was: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux))
On 5/19/11, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: As already said, this sounds really complicated. Coming from an IRC and vBB admin background, I'll suggest moderation using the reactive approach instead of a automated process. Not really. The perl script was written, um, around 1993 or '94, and it was based on one from talk.lang.russian? something like that. snip contextskeptic about automated censorship and 'communities' void of human expression/context The primary concern was that it would take a lot of tuning to get an automated filter working without bouncing perfectly legit posts. After all, this discussion about a need for moderation may very well fall into obvious off-topic. And being the continual victim of apparently some kind of automated filter on several mailing lists (including this one it seems as some of my posts never show up), I'm rather distrustful of automated moderation. For example, a perfectly acceptable, from my POV, joke about a statement somebody made that lightens up the mood and give everybody a good chuckle may be considered OK by most subscribers but again, automated censors do not have a sense of humour. If the filters are too lax, then the moderators would keep getting verification requests. After a while if false positives rate are too high, moderators will feel frustrated too or start ignoring anything they didn't come across first hand. Hence I feel it's better to rely on the human flagging process. After all, if only the automated filter and maybe one person feels a thread/post should be a bounce, is that really deserving of a bounce? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
On 5/19/11, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote: Can we do a better job at some things, sure. But trust me, CentOS is going nowhere. I think you might mean CentOS is not going away since going nowhere fast or slow is bad news for those waiting for the next version ;) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] KVM vs ESXi
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Drew wrote: My question to everyone are these: -How well does KVM support Windows Guests? I'm already running a Server 2008r2 and WHS 2011 (based on 08r2) machines at home which I want to consolidate into this box. They run well enough for me. Don't have any benchmarks as I am not using any other full virt solutions, but don't see much difference between VMs and bare metal. On the other hand I try not to use windows servers for anything serious so they're hardly ever stressed. -Does KVM have a concept of virtual switches and and are they tied to physical NICs? ESXi allows me to create a vSwitch that isn't tied to a physical NIC so I can create a DMZ that exists solely within the host system. I'd like to replicate that if possible. No and I don't think it's the hypervisor's job to do that. Even in ESXi I don't think it's the hypervisor itself that does that. You could try however to mess with Openvswitch if you insist on such features, at least until someone decides to package all this in one fancy solution (rhev?). Lucian ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
