[CentOS] Desktopsearch Recoll for CentOS 5.5 64bit
Hi Folks, is there a rpm-package for desktopsearch recoll for CentOS 5.5 64bit If yes - where is it? I've tried fedora-packages from http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/download.html#rpms but got much dependencies-errors Thx Timothy ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On 5/26/11, Kevin K kevi...@fidnet.com wrote: Though thumb drives are flash, they tend to use a slower flash than what is used in hard drive replacement units. No actual industry facts for this, but I think the Flash used in thumb drives are not really any slower by nature/design. This is because I see that the fastest SSD currently tend to use 8 channel controllers for 200+ MB/s performance which translate to 20~30MB/sec per channel. The better USB 2.0 thumb drives can do about 20+ MB, Kingston even has a new one that will supposedly do 70+ when connected via USB 3.0. If we take 8 of these and RAID 0 them which is pretty much what the 8-channel controller is doing, we're looking at pretty similar numbers between the flash cells in thumb drives and SSD. I think that many people, when talking about SSD, may be thinking of drives in the form factor of a hard drive. Either 2.5 or 3.5. Which would probably not be called a thumb drive :) Only because it doesn't come with a USB connector! ;) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On Thu, 26 May 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote: But I'm generally puzzled by the emphasis many people put on speed. Unless one is a gamer, it doesn't seem to me to make much difference if it takes 13 second or 30 seconds to boot up. Either way it is going to take the same time to get to an URL. It all comes down to price. SSDs aren't massively popular yet just because of the price per unit of storage. When the price comes close to that of disk (and it doesn't have to match it), they'll romp away. If you're talking from a clean boot, your SSD laptop is going to beat you to the URL too, as your browser's going to load faster. And your disk cache for the browser suddenly becomes much faster and much more useful. Your URL happens to contain a java applet, so you'll be grinding away for a bit while the VM springs itself to life. It's funny what a diffence it seems to make. Try running a VM in a ramdisk to feel what fast storage can feel like. So the argument is to throw so much memory into your machine that you never touch the disk, and never reboot it. Sound argument (as long as you don't mind risking your data on writes by not syncing), but expensive. So you go for the cheaper option of adding a ~32Gbyte SSD into your system. Cheaper than RAM, but faster than disk, and faster than being safe with just lots of memory. You back all that with a 2Tb 3.5 disk for bulk storage. Spinning disks seem an awful lot like victorian technology taken too far. In the long term, what's *not* to like about the idea of fully solid state storage? jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On 5/26/11, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: Spinning disks seem an awful lot like victorian technology taken too far. In the long term, what's *not* to like about the idea of fully solid state storage? Personally, I'm averse to using SSD with any important long term data is the nightmare that I could one day wake up to find everything gone without any means of recovery. Compared that to a hard disk, which barring catastrophic physical damage, I could pay somebody to just read the data off the platter. As a performance boosting intermediary storage, yes, long term... maybe not quite yet. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On 5/26/11, Kevin K kevi...@fidnet.com wrote: Though thumb drives are flash, they tend to use a slower flash than what is used in hard drive replacement units. No actual industry facts for this, but I think the Flash used in thumb drives are not really any slower by nature/design. This is because I see that the fastest SSD currently tend to use 8 channel controllers for 200+ MB/s performance which translate to 20~30MB/sec per channel. There is quite a difference between common USB flash drives and SSDs. SSDs are supposed to replace a HDD while USB drives are not designed for it. One difference is the type of wear leveling, also documented here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling There are exceptions of course, for example there some industrial grade devices, but the commonly used ones can not be compared. Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On Thu, 26 May 2011, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: Personally, I'm averse to using SSD with any important long term data is the nightmare that I could one day wake up to find everything gone without any means of recovery. Compared that to a hard disk, which barring catastrophic physical damage, I could pay somebody to just read the data off the platter. As a performance boosting intermediary storage, yes, long term... maybe not quite yet. That's what backups are for. jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
John Hodrien wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: Personally, I'm averse to using SSD with any important long term data is the nightmare that I could one day wake up to find everything gone without any means of recovery. Compared that to a hard disk, which barring catastrophic physical damage, I could pay somebody to just read the data off the platter. As a performance boosting intermediary storage, yes, long term... maybe not quite yet. That's what backups are for. Unless you are away on important business trip and you loose your system just minutes before the meeting. Yes, it can happen to regular HDD, it's much lesser probability for now. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
On 25 May 2011 01:03, Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com wrote: In case you didn't see it, the initial CentOS 6 trees have been released to QA: http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/node/81 Where can I get these ISO's I have a couple of Dell R710's with Broadcom 10Gb nic's, a R610 and and a ESX4.1 environment that I can QA on. -- No tress were killed to send this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. Regards Mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
Brian,
you have a syntax error in the second if. The yum update is being
executed every time. Move the fi just before the else to the end.
Daniel.
* brian tu...@talstar.com [05/24/2011 18:53]:
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
if [ ${CHECKONLY} = yes ];then
/usr/bin/yum-check
fi
else
/usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
/usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update
fi
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Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
Where can I get these ISO's I have a couple of Dell R710's with Broadcom 10Gb nic's, a R610 and and a ESX4.1 environment that I can QA on. I don't believe you can. My understanding is that CentOS' QA builds are internal to the team and those aren't released to the general public. The only reason we know about them is because of changes made by TPTB to improve transparency openness into the state of the build process, the hope being that by feeding the community information as needed, they can avoid the recent flame-wars. -- Drew This started out as a hobby and spun horribly out of control. -Unknown ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On Thu, 26 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Unless you are away on important business trip and you loose your system just minutes before the meeting. Yes, it can happen to regular HDD, it's much lesser probability for now. If I'm going to a meeting where I've got documents I need, they'll be on the laptop, on a USB stick, and probably on a network accessible store as well. I doubt an SSD is likely to be the least reliable part of a laptop. jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Daniel De Marco
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 8:42
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
Brian,
you have a syntax error in the second if. The yum update is being
executed every time. Move the fi just before the else to the end.
Make that, a probable, two syntax errors in the second if.
The single '=' sign does assignment, a double '==' does string compare.
Plus I think there is a simpler way to control yum, than adding all
these scripts that I don't think came in the base install. Modify
/etc/yum/yum-updates.conf, which comes in the yum-updatesd package, and
`ckconfig yum-updatesd on` #note you probably only want one or the other
of either yum-updatesd or the scripts you have.
On some of the systems I run, the run_interval is set ~22000 and
do_update is set to no, which achieves near what I think the OP was
after.
I am not sure if setting emit_via to email or syslog would get the final
bit of what the OP was after.
Daniel.
* brian tu...@talstar.com [05/24/2011 18:53]:
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
if [ ${CHECKONLY} = yes ];then
/usr/bin/yum-check
fi
else
/usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
/usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update
fi
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0825 CentOS 5 x86_64 numactl
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0825
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The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
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x86_64:
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0825 CentOS 5 i386 numactl
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0825
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6e9805b07c044e8370765a8a8d44055e numactl-0.9.8-12.el5_6.i386.rpm
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0823 CentOS 5 i386 shadow-utils
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Source:
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:0823 CentOS 5 x86_64 shadow-utils
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:0823
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The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
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x86_64:
83014a59441dfb6793261d98c939982e shadow-utils-4.0.17-18.el5_6.1.x86_64.rpm
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Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
Hello Brian,
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 18:52 -0400, brian wrote:
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
if [ ${CHECKONLY} = yes ];then
/usr/bin/yum-check
fi
else
/usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
/usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update
fi
in /etc/sysconfig/yum-check:
-- yum-check -
# yes sets yum to check for updates and mail only if patches are available
# no does enable autoupdate if /var/lock/subsys/yum is available
CHECKONLY=yes
Seems like poor logic nesting if you read the comment above. Auto update
should only happen if both $CHECKONLY is set to no
*and* /var/lock/subsys/yum is a file.
if [ $CHECKONLY == yes ]; then
/usr/bin/yum-check
else
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
/usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
/usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update
fi
fi
is how this should read according to that comment. If you set CHECKONLY
to no you still have to touch /var/lock/subsys/yum to actually have
yum autoupdate.
Regards,
Leonard.
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Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
Hello Tod, On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 10:53 -0400, Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane wrote: The single '=' sign does assignment, a double '==' does string compare. No, with the spaces around the '=' and the dollar before the variable name this actually is a test not an assignment. But using double '=' is more clear, agreed. Try #!/bin/sh C=no if [ $C = yes ]; then echo 1: $C fi if [ $C=yes ]; then echo 2: $C fi This will return: 2: no Bash is very peculiar ;) Regards, Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
Hi List, I am looking for good multifunction (fax, scanner, ..) color network laser printer for Linux, any ideas? specs: - Linux, Windows and OSX support on printer and also on scanner. - A4 papersize http://multi.gnt.lt/Pages/brochures/HP/CM2320MFP-ENG.pdf ? thanks, -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 19:43, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: Hi List, I am looking for good multifunction (fax, scanner, ..) color network laser printer for Linux, any ideas? specs: - Linux, Windows and OSX support on printer and also on scanner. - A4 papersize http://multi.gnt.lt/Pages/brochures/HP/CM2320MFP-ENG.pdf ? thanks, HP 4500 series. I love mine. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
On 05/26/2011 12:43 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote: Hi List, I am looking for good multifunction (fax, scanner, ..) color network laser printer for Linux, any ideas? specs: - Linux, Windows and OSX support on printer and also on scanner. - A4 papersize http://multi.gnt.lt/Pages/brochures/HP/CM2320MFP-ENG.pdf ? thanks, -- Eero I've had fantastic luck with Brother. They actually support Linux, which was a big part of what dragged me from HP after having been a fan of LaserJets for many years. -- Digimer E-Mail: digi...@alteeve.com AN!Whitepapers: http://alteeve.com Node Assassin: http://nodeassassin.org I feel confined, only free to expand myself within boundaries. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
2011/5/26 Digimer li...@alteeve.com: On 05/26/2011 12:43 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote: Hi List, I am looking for good multifunction (fax, scanner, ..) color network laser printer for Linux, any ideas? specs: - Linux, Windows and OSX support on printer and also on scanner. - A4 papersize http://multi.gnt.lt/Pages/brochures/HP/CM2320MFP-ENG.pdf ? thanks, -- Eero I've had fantastic luck with Brother. They actually support Linux, which was a big part of what dragged me from HP after having been a fan of LaserJets for many years. can you give model number? -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
HP 6150C scanner/printer. Works well with hplip and cups. Remote scanning works better on Linux than Windows. -- Wade Hampton ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Leonard den Ottolander Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:23 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly Hello Tod, On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 10:53 -0400, Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane wrote: The single '=' sign does assignment, a double '==' does string compare. No, with the spaces around the '=' and the dollar before the variable name this actually is a test not an assignment. But using double '=' is more clear, agreed. Try Thanks for the info. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
On 5/26/2011 11:22 AM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: if [ $C=yes ]; then echo 2: $C fi This will return: 2: no Bash is very peculiar ;) No, it should tokenize this into fields, breaking on the elements in $IFS (normally white space). So you end up with one field and according to 'man test', STRING is equivalent to -n STRING. If you want it to tokenize into more fields so the test sees 2 strings and and operator, you have some white space there. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Drew drew@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe you can. My understanding is that CentOS' QA builds are internal to the team and those aren't released to the general public. The only reason we know about them is because of changes made by TPTB to improve transparency openness into the state of the build process, the hope being that by feeding the community information as needed, they can avoid the recent flame-wars. Which is an excellent step forward, hopefully one of many. As to the person asking to sync, if you wait a short while you'll be able to sync off the public mirrors soon enough. -- Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
On Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:43 PM +0300 Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: - Linux, Windows and OSX support on printer and also on scanner. The scanner part is tough. I'd love to see some good support for Epson. I've got a Perfection 4180 connected by USB and an 11x17 network scanner, but currently I do all my scanning through Windows. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
2011/5/26 Kenneth Porter sh...@sewingwitch.com On Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:43 PM +0300 Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: - Linux, Windows and OSX support on printer and also on scanner. The scanner part is tough. I'd love to see some good support for Epson. I've got a Perfection 4180 connected by USB and an 11x17 network scanner, but currently I do all my scanning through Windows. the canon scan lide i've used so far worked perfectly in linux. of course, they're not the best scanners out there but they are ok for my ocasional scanning jobs. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
On May 26, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Steven Crothers wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Drew drew@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe you can. My understanding is that CentOS' QA builds are internal to the team and those aren't released to the general public. The only reason we know about them is because of changes made by TPTB to improve transparency openness into the state of the build process, the hope being that by feeding the community information as needed, they can avoid the recent flame-wars. Which is an excellent step forward, hopefully one of many. Me thinks its awesome for the updates, you have no idea how many times I've had to defend Centos on other lists. Kooks saying the project is dead, Dags departure from the dev list is the end, blah blah blah. Just shear nonsense. - aurf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
Kenneth Porter wrote: On Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:43 PM +0300 Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: - Linux, Windows and OSX support on printer and also on scanner. The scanner part is tough. I'd love to see some good support for Epson. I've got a Perfection 4180 connected by USB and an 11x17 network scanner, but currently I do all my scanning through Windows. Huh. Haven't used it in a while, but my vintage 1998 Umax SCSI scanner has always worked fine under linux. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
John Hodrien wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Unless you are away on important business trip and you loose your system just minutes before the meeting. Yes, it can happen to regular HDD, it's much lesser probability for now. If I'm going to a meeting where I've got documents I need, they'll be on the laptop, on a USB stick, and probably on a network accessible store as well. I doubt an SSD is likely to be the least reliable part of a laptop. I knew someone will use that. But I am not talking about documents, but the system for example with let say architect design app, or demo version of developers new application with set database server and who knows what. I know people that are unwilling to pay for good antivirus (MS Win naturally) because it is easier/faster to just reinstall it, you only need 30-60 minutes but they do not even think about how much time takes to configure ones environment, especially in business. I have several customers that don't even know their own passwords for e-mail accounts, and they expect me to know them, and to have their PC just running. So having SSD in laptop (if they are unreliable) is not much of an option, unless I am going to carry duplicate HDD/SSD just in case this one crashes. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:06 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: Me thinks its awesome for the updates, you have no idea how many times I've had to defend Centos on other lists. Kooks saying the project is dead, Dags departure from the dev list is the end, blah blah blah. Just shear nonsense. Please don't read into my comment of good move forward to much. I still think the CentOS project has allot of growing to do and I disagree with more things then I agree with at this point. I just see any step forward into transparency is a good thing, however I think they could use a good hard look at the Fedora and Debian projects. Fedora and Debian in my opinion are both superior to the way CentOS opens community development. Having one developer doing all the packaging (Johnny) is a waste of resources and intelligence. A simple repository where we can all contribute to the build cycle would be far more beneficial in the long run for the project. However, they are currently worried about people stealing their work and starting their own rebuilds of RHEL, which if that was going to happen it would have already. The SL team opens their build process and we can get close enough with Fedora to make a good start. Some of the developer paranoia needs to go, and more community involvement needs to happen still. However the QA system is a good step forward and like I said, hopefully the first of many over the next few years. -- Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] calendar
Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
on 5/26/2011 11:50 AM Steven Crothers spake the following: snip Fedora and Debian in my opinion are both superior to the way CentOS opens community development. Having one developer doing all the packaging (Johnny) is a waste of resources and intelligence. A simple repository where we can all contribute to the build cycle would be far more beneficial in the long run for the project. However, they are currently worried about people stealing their work and starting their own rebuilds of RHEL, which if that was going to happen it would have already. The SL team opens their build process and we can get close enough with Fedora to make a good start. Some of the developer paranoia needs to go, and more community involvement needs to happen still. However the QA system is a good step forward and like I said, hopefully the first of many over the next few years. I think they are as much worried about bad things getting introduced into an uncontrolled build environment. Things like dependencies outside the normal build, dependencies that break other parts of the distro, and even general malicious content are all concerns of a full enterprise type of distro. CentOS is not a community build... The community is in the support. I think opening up some of the problems in building so maybe patches can be submitted is a good step, but if I wanted a distro that anybody and his brother can add to, I would USE Fedora... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
Steven Crothers wrote: opens community development. Having one developer doing all the packaging (Johnny) is a waste of resources and intelligence. A simple oh no! please don't anybody reply, despite gross inaccuracies such as that quoted above, and turn this into another 100-post flamewar... pretty please? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Exchange has a web based interface: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlook_Web_App ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
Steven Crothers wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:06 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: Me thinks its awesome for the updates, you have no idea how many times I've had to defend Centos on other lists. Kooks saying the project is dead, Dags departure from the dev list is the end, blah blah blah. Just shear nonsense. Please don't read into my comment of good move forward to much. I still think the CentOS project has allot of growing to do and I disagree with more things then I agree with at this point. I just see any step forward into transparency is a good thing, however I think they could use a good hard look at the Fedora and Debian projects. Fedora and Debian in my opinion are both superior to the way CentOS opens community development. Having one developer doing all the packaging (Johnny) is a waste of resources and intelligence. A simple repository where we can all contribute to the build cycle would be far more beneficial in the long run for the project. However, they are currently worried about people stealing their work and starting their own rebuilds of RHEL, which if that was going to happen it would have already. The SL team opens their build process and we can get close enough with Fedora to make a good start. Some of the developer paranoia needs to go, and more community involvement needs to happen still. However the QA system is a good step forward and like I said, hopefully the first of many over the next few years. Hmm. Steven, what part of rebuilding, not developing fact are you having problems with? How would that happen in your mind? Please give us detail instruction. Guys prepare all srpms and ask you/us/anybody to help them. Then you/us/anybody start fiddling with it and create huge chatter about what works and what not. Keep in mind that you are NOT allowed to change srpms, just building environment!!!. What happens when you take responsibility for certain package and then have no time for it? Will all other rebuilders be forced to wait for you? Will rebuilding queues be halted until we all agree is something is correctly done, or until we argue if one of us thinks that other one is not competent? Who will take precedence? Will core dev team become referees? Or if you think we should all have simultaneous access to the same packages, who will volunteer to build simultaneous access system? And how you intend to solve conflicts? And this issues are just from the top of my head while I have other problems on my mind. Please answer this in detail, not just shrug it off and say I do not know or That is not the point. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: Steven Crothers wrote: opens community development. Having one developer doing all the packaging (Johnny) is a waste of resources and intelligence. A simple oh no! please don't anybody reply, despite gross inaccuracies such as that quoted above, and turn this into another 100-post flamewar... pretty please? sorry, to late for that... Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
Leonard den Ottolander wrote:
Hello Brian,
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 18:52 -0400, brian wrote:
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
if [ ${CHECKONLY} = yes ];then
/usr/bin/yum-check
fi
else
/usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
/usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update
fi
in /etc/sysconfig/yum-check:
-- yum-check -
# yes sets yum to check for updates and mail only if patches are available
# no does enable autoupdate if /var/lock/subsys/yum is available
CHECKONLY=yes
Seems like poor logic nesting if you read the comment above. Auto update
should only happen if both $CHECKONLY is set to no
*and* /var/lock/subsys/yum is a file.
if [ $CHECKONLY == yes ]; then
/usr/bin/yum-check
else
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
/usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
/usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update
fi
fi
is how this should read according to that comment. If you set CHECKONLY
to no you still have to touch /var/lock/subsys/yum to actually have
yum autoupdate.
Regards,
Leonard.
OP never answered my question if $CHECKONLY is in fact not empty.
So:
echo CHECKONLY is $CHECKONLY
echo {CHECKONLY} is ${CHECKONLY}
is for starters.
And I would change this to:
if [ $CHECKONLY == no ]; then
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
/usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
/usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update
fi
else
/usr/bin/yum-check
fi
This way, if $CHECKONLY is empty script will just check, not update.
Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] Initial 6.0 trees in QA
On May 26, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: Steven Crothers wrote: opens community development. Having one developer doing all the packaging (Johnny) is a waste of resources and intelligence. A simple oh no! please don't anybody reply, despite gross inaccuracies such as that quoted above, and turn this into another 100-post flamewar... pretty please? sorry, to late for that... o o, sorry i feel my initial response caused his response, etc... i'll keep my posts relegated to farts, etc... better then starting a tech flame. - aurf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home That looks really good... except I can't get lightening. Either I'm too stupid to use the Mozilla t-bird website, or they've got it completely fucked up: there's nohwere to d/l. It has the balloon with the word featured instead of a download button, and following links is completely circular, from the Mozilla site, to the lightnening site, back to the Mozilla site. Any clues as to how to get the damn thing? mark, very annoyed ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Alexander Georgiev wrote: My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Exchange has a web based interface: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlook_Web_App We know. He's hoping for something more seamless, since all of us would rather use t-bird than Outlook Webmail when we don't have to. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home That looks really good... except I can't get lightening. Either I'm too stupid to use the Mozilla t-bird website, or they've got it completely fucked up: there's nohwere to d/l. It has the balloon with the word featured instead of a download button, and following links is completely circular, from the Mozilla site, to the lightnening site, back to the Mozilla site. Any clues as to how to get the damn thing? Never mind, noscript was blocking the button from appearing. Now it won't install, since there doesn't appear to be an x86_64 version mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] PHP Source
I have a pressing need to compile a utility called odbtp into php on my new 64 bit machine with an AMD chip that is currently running CentOS 5.6. Where can I find the source files for the CentOS recommended versions of php. I have searched the CentOS and related repository sites and can find php in several places but not the source files. Thanks in advance. Regards, Ron Young 919-621-9015 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ronhyoung +++ Little tiny dreams require little tiny thoughts and little tiny steps. Great big dreams require great big thoughts and little tiny steps. +++ *Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home Ok, have you gotten it working? So far, I found a contributor, who did have an x86_64 build of lightening... but that doesn't work with thunderbird 2, which is what's on CentOS... mark, trying to avoid the SharePoint solution ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP Source
Ron Young wrote: I have a pressing need to compile a utility called odbtp into php on my new 64 bit machine with an AMD chip that is currently running CentOS 5.6. Where can I find the source files for the CentOS recommended versions of php. I have searched the CentOS and related repository sites and can find php in several places but not the source files. Thanks in advance. http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/os/SRPMS/ http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/updates/SRPMS/ Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home That looks really good... except I can't get lightening. Either I'm too stupid to use the Mozilla t-bird website, or they've got it completely fucked up: there's nohwere to d/l. It has the balloon with the word featured instead of a download button, and following links is completely circular, from the Mozilla site, to the lightnening site, back to the Mozilla site. Any clues as to how to get the damn thing? Well, I don't run it on CentOS, but on Windows Thunderbird 3.1.10 go to Help - What's New and on the tab that opens is an Install Now button for Lightning. -- Jeff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Jeff wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home That looks really good... except I can't get lightening. Either I'm too stupid to use the Mozilla t-bird website, or they've got it completely fucked up: there's nohwere to d/l. It has the balloon with the word featured instead of a download button, and following links is completely circular, from the Mozilla site, to the lightnening site, back to the Mozilla site. Any clues as to how to get the damn thing? Well, I don't run it on CentOS, but on Windows Thunderbird 3.1.10 go to Help - What's New and on the tab that opens is an Install Now button for Lightning. I've been having a bad day, so excuse me... but a) this is a CentOS list, b) I've said that we're trying to get something seamles FROM LINUX, so what the hell does on Windows have to do with the price of tomatoes? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home Ok, have you gotten it working? So far, I found a contributor, who did have an x86_64 build of lightening... but that doesn't work with thunderbird 2, which is what's on CentOS... mark, trying to avoid the SharePoint solution Mike Harris was/is building thunderbird 3.x but his repo domain has expired. I have a copy of Thunderbird 3.0-2.7.b4 srpm, I will make it available in an hour or so, so you can compile it if you like. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:21 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Jeff wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home That looks really good... except I can't get lightening. Either I'm too stupid to use the Mozilla t-bird website, or they've got it completely fucked up: there's nohwere to d/l. It has the balloon with the word featured instead of a download button, and following links is completely circular, from the Mozilla site, to the lightnening site, back to the Mozilla site. Any clues as to how to get the damn thing? Well, I don't run it on CentOS, but on Windows Thunderbird 3.1.10 go to Help - What's New and on the tab that opens is an Install Now button for Lightning. I've been having a bad day, so excuse me... but a) this is a CentOS list, b) I've said that we're trying to get something seamles FROM LINUX, so what the hell does on Windows have to do with the price of tomatoes? mark Well don't blame me if T-Bird is vastly different across platforms. I'm just saying where to find it in Thunderbird. If those Mozilla folks are doing their job right, then I would hope you would see the same thing on CentOS. YMMV. Sorry for trying to be helpful. However I can't find any reference to what T-Bird version you are using, so if you are on v2 then all bets are off. -- Jeff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. snip thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home Ok, have you gotten it working? So far, I found a contributor, who did have an x86_64 build of lightening... but that doesn't work with thunderbird 2, which is what's on CentOS... Mike Harris was/is building thunderbird 3.x but his repo domain has expired. I have a copy of Thunderbird 3.0-2.7.b4 srpm, I will make it available in an hour or so, so you can compile it if you like. Thanks very much, but that's not going to work. My manager doesn't want to use random repos, and really doesn't want to build something that a) would have to be rolled out to the whole division, and b) we'd have to be responsible for building updates. I guess it's on to something else, but thanks again. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Jeff wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:21 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Jeff wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: snip Any clues as to how to get the damn thing? Well, I don't run it on CentOS, but on Windows Thunderbird 3.1.10 go to Help - What's New and on the tab that opens is an Install Now button for Lightning. I've been having a bad day, so excuse me... but a) this is a CentOS list, b) I've said that we're trying to get something seamles FROM LINUX, so what the hell does on Windows have to do with the price of tomatoes? Well don't blame me if T-Bird is vastly different across platforms. I'm just saying where to find it in Thunderbird. If those Mozilla folks are doing their job right, then I would hope you would see the same thing on CentOS. YMMV. Sorry for trying to be helpful. However I can't find any reference to what T-Bird version you are using, so if you are on v2 then all bets are off. CentOS does what RHEL does, and RHEL 5.x *only* provides thunderbird 2.x. Further, in Linux, they do build seperately for 64 bit vs. 32 bit. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Jeff wrote: Well don't blame me if T-Bird is vastly different across platforms. I'm just saying where to find it in Thunderbird. If those Mozilla folks are doing their job right, then I would hope you would see the same thing on CentOS. YMMV. Sorry for trying to be helpful. However I can't find any reference to what T-Bird version you are using, so if you are on v2 then all bets are off. OK guys. Jeff, there was post 5 minutes before yours in another part of the thread stating CentOS 5.x uses 2.x version. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] hi CentOS
Am 25.05.11 17:54, schrieb John R Pierce: On 05/25/11 8:52 AM, tro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello CentOS it took a ... (spamcrap deleted) geez, all my email lists are getting hit with this sort of spam. becoming quite annoying, the way the list servers filter on the 'from' address has become inadequate :( This one *was* properly subscribed to this list. There's not really much one can do in this case. Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 16:43 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] calendar CentOS does what RHEL does, and RHEL 5.x *only* provides thunderbird 2.x. Further, in Linux, they do build seperately for 64 bit vs. 32 bit. I was going to suggest loading the 32bit version like you can do for Firefox, and then when I looked I noticed that only the 64bit version of thunderbird is placed in the x86_64 portion of the repo. I would be tempted to try: a) install the 32bit version of Firefox (to pull in all the 32bit moz libs you'll need) b) grab the 32bit version of thunderbird (from the centos 5.6/updates/i386 repo) and install it c) test and see if it will work for you. d) 1) see if your boss has a problem with you having to remember to update thunderbird from the i386 updates directory. 2) see if you could (gently) convince the centos guys to put it also in one of the centosplus or extras x86_64 portions of the repo. [I doubt that they would put it in the 5.6/os/x86_64 and 5.6/updates/x86_64 directories only because I would have expected to see it there already if TUV was putting it there, and for the os updates directories I expect they want to closely match TUV.] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane wrote: Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us CentOS does what RHEL does, and RHEL 5.x *only* provides thunderbird 2.x.Further, in Linux, they do build seperately for 64 bit vs. 32 bit. I was going to suggest loading the 32bit version like you can do for Firefox, and then when I looked I noticed that only the 64bit version of thunderbird is placed in the x86_64 portion of the repo. snip of good ideas 1) see if your boss has a problem with you having to remember to update thunderbird from the i386 updates directory. 2) see if you could (gently) convince the centos guys to put it also in one of the centosplus or extras x86_64 portions of the repo. [I snip Would be nice. Trouble is, we've got what, 60? 70? people in the division who have Linux workstations, and then rolling it all out, and no one wants to deal with 32-bit apps on 64 bit systems (we won't mention npviewersegvsegvsegv) Lightening and lightening-exchange looked really good mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
At Thu, 26 May 2011 15:48:53 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, Â My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. Â Can Evolution? Any other suggestions? thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home That looks really good... except I can't get lightening. Either I'm too stupid to use the Mozilla t-bird website, or they've got it completely fucked up: there's nohwere to d/l. It has the balloon with the word featured instead of a download button, and following links is completely circular, from the Mozilla site, to the lightnening site, back to the Mozilla site. Any clues as to how to get the damn thing? Never mind, noscript was blocking the button from appearing. Now it won't install, since there doesn't appear to be an x86_64 version You should be able to install the i386 support libraries and install the 32-bit version. The x86_64 kernel is perfectly happy to run 32-bit applications, so long as the support libraries are there. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 17:21
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] calendar
snip
Would be nice. Trouble is, we've got what, 60? 70? people in the
division
With that many you obviously have a local mirror that they all update
from, right?
cd pathtomirror/5/updates/x86_64/RPMS
find ../../i386 -name thunderbird\* -exec ln -s {} \;
cd ..
createrepo -v --update -d -o repodata x86_64
And get your boss happy with _that_ but only if the 32bit version
worked.
who have Linux workstations, and then rolling it all out, and no one
wants
to deal with 32-bit apps on 64 bit systems (we won't mention
npviewersegvsegvsegv)
Lightening and lightening-exchange looked really good
Any chance you could get the source of those and recompile for 64?
Yeh Yeh, maintenance headache, but can that set of headaches (work [and
more at each update of the tool] and IA) be balanced against the
alternatives and be a win for the division.
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Re: [CentOS] PHP Source
Thanks Ljubomir, Just what I needed! I did not realize that source files would be in rpm files and named src instead of *source* or in a source directory. Regards, Ron Young 919-621-9015 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ronhyoung +++ Little tiny dreams require little tiny thoughts and little tiny steps. Great big dreams require great big thoughts and little tiny steps. +++ *Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rswrote: Ron Young wrote: I have a pressing need to compile a utility called odbtp into php on my new 64 bit machine with an AMD chip that is currently running CentOS 5.6. Where can I find the source files for the CentOS recommended versions of php. I have searched the CentOS and related repository sites and can find php in several places but not the source files. Thanks in advance. http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/os/SRPMS/ http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/updates/SRPMS/ Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: 2011/5/26 m.r...@5-cent.us: Folks, My manager's asked me about something that can run on our CentOS boxes that can connect to an (bleah!) Exchange server's calendar. It doesn't look like Lightening can, and from some googling, it appears that Evolution claims to, but It's got to be able to set dates, etc. snip thunderbird + http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home Ok, have you gotten it working? So far, I found a contributor, who did have an x86_64 build of lightening... but that doesn't work with thunderbird 2, which is what's on CentOS... Mike Harris was/is building thunderbird 3.x but his repo domain has expired. I have a copy of Thunderbird 3.0-2.7.b4 srpm, I will make it available in an hour or so, so you can compile it if you like. Thanks very much, but that's not going to work. My manager doesn't want to use random repos, and really doesn't want to build something that a) would have to be rolled out to the whole division, and b) we'd have to be responsible for building updates. I guess it's on to something else, but thanks again. mark If you do decide to at least test it, here is link: http://rpms.plnet.rs/plnet-centos5-srpms/RPMS.plnet-test/thunderbird-3.0-2.7.b4.el5.src.rpm It's easier for me to post it now when I have the link, in case you are otherwise stuck. Warning to people trying it: This version was NOT tested by me, so be careful. spec might be used to compile other versions of the package. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane wrote:
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 17:21
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] calendar
snip
Would be nice. Trouble is, we've got what, 60? 70? people in the
division
With that many you obviously have a local mirror that they all update
from, right?
cd pathtomirror/5/updates/x86_64/RPMS
find ../../i386 -name thunderbird\* -exec ln -s {} \;
cd ..
createrepo -v --update -d -o repodata x86_64
And get your boss happy with _that_ but only if the 32bit version
worked.
who have Linux workstations, and then rolling it all out, and no one
wants
to deal with 32-bit apps on 64 bit systems (we won't mention
npviewersegvsegvsegv)
Lightening and lightening-exchange looked really good
Any chance you could get the source of those and recompile for 64?
Yeh Yeh, maintenance headache, but can that set of headaches (work [and
more at each update of the tool] and IA) be balanced against the
alternatives and be a win for the division.
Aham
Thunderbird in CentOS 5.x is 2.0 and connector does not work with 2.0,
just with 3.x
Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] calendar
If you're looking for an email *client* that does calendaring and runs on CentOS, I believe that Mulberry will talk calendaring to an exchange server and I know it runs on CentOS (as well as other Linux variants, Mac and Windows). http://www.mulberrymail.com/ Don't let the lack of recent updates scare you off; it's a solid product, plus there are Linux users who have been updating the source tree since this previously-commercial product went open source. In the context of email, I'm using Mulberry in an environment where I have multiple imap smtp servers, multiple accounts, and one *account* in particular has 300 sub-mailboxes with ~600,000 messages. Mulberry is the only client that I've tried that doesn't choke. Devin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
--On Thursday, May 26, 2011 04:09:09 PM -0600 Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: If you're looking for an email *client* that does calendaring and runs on CentOS, I believe that Mulberry will talk calendaring to an exchange server and I know it runs on CentOS (as well as other Linux variants, Mac and Windows). It does, however, require some compat libc libraries or some such that you'll find in the CentOS distro, though. So don't toss it if it doesn't at first run. Do an ldd and figure out what's missing. Devin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum check-updates script not working correctly
On 05/26/2011 08:41 AM, Daniel De Marco wrote:
Brian,
you have a syntax error in the second if. The yum update is being
executed every time. Move the fi just before the else to the end.
Daniel.
* briantu...@talstar.com [05/24/2011 18:53]:
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
if [ ${CHECKONLY} = yes ];then
/usr/bin/yum-check
fi
else
/usr/bin/yum -R 10 -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
/usr/bin/yum -R 120 -e 0 -d 0 -y update
fi
Daniel --
ah.. thanks! I will correct that on my copy of the script. As a side
note, it's not my scripting error -- I copied the
whole set of scripts directly off the CentOS Wiki, so somebody with editing
privs there might want to make the same correction...
- Brian
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Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On May 26, 2011, at 3:36 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 5/26/11, Kevin K kevi...@fidnet.com wrote: Though thumb drives are flash, they tend to use a slower flash than what is used in hard drive replacement units. No actual industry facts for this, but I think the Flash used in thumb drives are not really any slower by nature/design. This is because I see that the fastest SSD currently tend to use 8 channel controllers for 200+ MB/s performance which translate to 20~30MB/sec per channel. The better USB 2.0 thumb drives can do about 20+ MB, Kingston even has a new one that will supposedly do 70+ when connected via USB 3.0. If we take 8 of these and RAID 0 them which is pretty much what the 8-channel controller is doing, we're looking at pretty similar numbers between the flash cells in thumb drives and SSD. I think that many people, when talking about SSD, may be thinking of drives in the form factor of a hard drive. Either 2.5 or 3.5. Which would probably not be called a thumb drive :) Only because it doesn't come with a USB connector! ;) OK. Not really slower for the flash, but still slower than what an USB based SSD drive would be. But since they are designed for USB, performance can be lower. Especially for the cheaper drives. I would assume, but don't know, that those drives marketed as ReadyBoost (?) for Vista or later may be faster . Another thing that probably makes them seem slow is when some systems default to write cache disabled. For protection on systems like Windows where people might not remember to safely remove. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Good network printer/scanner for Centos/Linux
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:57:36AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: On Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:43 PM +0300 Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: - Linux, Windows and OSX support on printer and also on scanner. The scanner part is tough. I'd love to see some good support for Epson. I've got a Perfection 4180 connected by USB and an 11x17 network scanner, but currently I do all my scanning through Windows. FWIW, at my office we have a Brother all-in-one unit. I can't remember the model number, sorry, but it is one that was between 400 and 500 US dollars at Staples. (it's monochrome, BTW, not the color the OP wants.) My Centos 5 box at my desk works fine with the printer and the scanner portions, using Brother's drivers. I haven't attempted to FAX from my computer using the MFC, but there are drivers for that on the Brother web site. I would expect (but have no direct knowledge) similar good results with pretty much any of Brother's MFC units. YMMV. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen. - Jude 1:24,25 (niv) - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On May 26, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 5/26/11, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: Spinning disks seem an awful lot like victorian technology taken too far. In the long term, what's *not* to like about the idea of fully solid state storage? Personally, I'm averse to using SSD with any important long term data is the nightmare that I could one day wake up to find everything gone without any means of recovery. Compared that to a hard disk, which barring catastrophic physical damage, I could pay somebody to just read the data off the platter. As a performance boosting intermediary storage, yes, long term... maybe not quite yet multiple layers of backup. My main system has a main system. With scheduled backups to an external hard drive, and online. I have a lot of data on it like pictures that I wouldn't want to lose. A SSD would replace my main boot drive, with faster access to data as used. But the external drive would still be there for backup. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On May 26, 2011, at 8:12 AM, John Hodrien wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Unless you are away on important business trip and you loose your system just minutes before the meeting. Yes, it can happen to regular HDD, it's much lesser probability for now. If I'm going to a meeting where I've got documents I need, they'll be on the laptop, on a USB stick, and probably on a network accessible store as well. I doubt an SSD is likely to be the least reliable part of a laptop. I've done that too. Travel, with data or code on hard drive, backup USB drive, and also burned to DVD or CD. I may ship the computer, but hand carry the DVD or thumb drive. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On May 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Kevin K wrote: On May 26, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: On 5/26/11, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: Spinning disks seem an awful lot like victorian technology taken too far. In the long term, what's *not* to like about the idea of fully solid state storage? Personally, I'm averse to using SSD with any important long term data is the nightmare that I could one day wake up to find everything gone without any means of recovery. Compared that to a hard disk, which barring catastrophic physical damage, I could pay somebody to just read the data off the platter. As a performance boosting intermediary storage, yes, long term... maybe not quite yet multiple layers of backup. My main system has a main system. With scheduled backups to an external hard drive, and online. I have a lot of data on it like pictures that I wouldn't want to lose. A SSD would replace my main boot drive, with faster access to data as used. But the external drive would still be there for backup. I back up to traditional disk/tape as well. Thing is, even though I use the Intel X25M for a mostly read only app server, there is still the issue on TRIM. In Windows and OSX its easy to get TRIM working, does any know of TRIM for linux? Also, for rock solid write performance, I've been using the IOExtreme which is pricy, hence biz use only. Its not bootable but very good read/write reliable I/O. - aurf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] hi CentOS
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:58 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: Hello CentOS it took a few days before i got the hang of it http://email.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJsdn=emai lzu=http://cnbc7.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos This is a Make money at home from the Internet site. http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2010/12/10/work-at-home-spam-spreads-via -twitter-with-a-little-help-from-tweetmeme/ Clicking on the link takes you to a website called CNBC7, which poses as a genuine news website but was actually registered from China ... http://cnbc7.com.hostlogr.com/ This is a Chinese web iste Mainland Chinese web site. Null route/block,yadayada away! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
I've been using a Java-based tool named DAVmail (davmail.sourceforge.net) to access my Exchange calendar from Thunderbird with the Lightning plug-in. It can basically proxy Exchange calendars (and e-mail for that matter) to protocols that Thunderbird and Lightning can understand. I've used it with T'bird 2 and 3 with good results. I believe there is a way to set up a single DAVmail proxy server for multiple users, but your mileage may vary. Just a thought! -- Jay Leafey - Memphis, TN jay.lea...@mindless.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] calendar
jleafey wrote: I've been using a Java-based tool named DAVmail (davmail.sourceforge.net) to access my Exchange calendar from Thunderbird with the Lightning plug-in. It can basically proxy Exchange calendars (and e-mail for that matter) to protocols that Thunderbird and Lightning can understand. I've used it with T'bird 2 and 3 with good results. I believe there is a way to set up a single DAVmail proxy server for multiple users, but your mileage may vary. Just a thought! -- Jay Leafey - Memphis, TN jay.lea...@mindless.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Nice find. lol Davmail Gateway can run in server mode as a gateway between the mail client and the Outlook Web Access (Exchange) server. In server mode Davmail can run on any Java supported platform. This mode was tested successfully with the Iphone and should work with any phone with POP/IMAP/SMTP/LDAP/Caldav/Carddav client. In this mode many users can share the same DavMail instance. http://davmail.sourceforge.net/serversetup.html Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] securing ldap with tls and security
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 16:52 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 04:49:09PM -0400, David Mehler wrote: Hello, I'm trying to set up a centos 5.3 machine to do authentication via openldap. I've got it working, I'm not sure if I have it 100% right, but I can use ldapsearch to query the directory, use finger, id, chown, and other utilities with ldap usernames and groups, log in via ssh as an ldap user and if it's a new user automatically have the home directory created. Having got this far if anyone with a working ldap authentication system could give my config a sanity check let me know. My goal now is to get tls encryption going so that usernames and passwords aren't sent in the clear. I'm using self-signed certificates for now. I'm going to post a link to my own page on it---which has links to other pages. Among other things, it goes through TLS. http://home.roadrunner.com/~computertaijutsu/ldap.html not wishing to pick on you and I only mention this because you specifically state that this goes through TLS but nowhere does it actually cover TLS at all... only LDAPS which is deprecated Your examples always use... -x Simple authentication but in order to use TLS, you would instead use... -Z Start TLS request (-ZZ to require successful response) i.e. 'ldapsearch -Z -h localhost -D 'cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com -W ou=People' It seems obvious why you were confused when you wrote... pam_ldap: ldap_starttls_s: Connect error Quickly on the topic of security, perhaps the first rule I would recommend for ACL's would be something like... I would also recommend that you simply add at the top or very near the top of your ACL's... access to attrs=userPassword,sambaNTPassword,sambaLMPassword by dn.exact=uid=SOME_ADMIN_USER,dc=example,dc=com write by self write by anonymous auth by * none This should be obvious and you can eliminate the Samba attributes if you don't integrate Samba into LDAP. Then the last rule should be something like... access to * by * read Which pretty much permits everything which allows you to browse your LDAP with anything from anywhere which I find terribly useful and permits anonymous browsing but my passwords are fully protected. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP Source
Try pecl, if not and you have sources, you can implement a php wrapper relatively easily. I've done it before for small things. Assuming the API is light enough you're talking about a nights worth of Googling, trial and error. Some keywords to feed into Google: phpize, php extension skeleton, create pecl extension On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Ron Young ronyo...@nc.rr.com wrote: Thanks Ljubomir, Just what I needed! I did not realize that source files would be in rpm files and named src instead of *source* or in a source directory. Regards, Ron Young 919-621-9015 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ronhyoung +++ Little tiny dreams require little tiny thoughts and little tiny steps. Great big dreams require great big thoughts and little tiny steps. +++ Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote: Ron Young wrote: I have a pressing need to compile a utility called odbtp into php on my new 64 bit machine with an AMD chip that is currently running CentOS 5.6. Where can I find the source files for the CentOS recommended versions of php. I have searched the CentOS and related repository sites and can find php in several places but not the source files. Thanks in advance. http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/os/SRPMS/ http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/updates/SRPMS/ Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On 5/26/11, Simon Matter simon.mat...@invoca.ch wrote: On 5/26/11, Kevin K kevi...@fidnet.com wrote: Though thumb drives are flash, they tend to use a slower flash than what is used in hard drive replacement units. No actual industry facts for this, but I think the Flash used in thumb drives are not really any slower by nature/design. This is because I see that the fastest SSD currently tend to use 8 channel controllers for 200+ MB/s performance which translate to 20~30MB/sec per channel. There is quite a difference between common USB flash drives and SSDs. SSDs are supposed to replace a HDD while USB drives are not designed for it. One difference is the type of wear leveling, also documented here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling Just to point out, that articles says the wear leveling used in USB flash drives result in faster performance which runs counter to Kevin's original claim of slower flash. ;) The key thing I was pointing out is that, the underlying Flash technology doesn't appear to be different in SSD Hard disks or USB flash drives. The key differentiating component always seems to be the controller, i.e. 8-channel on the SATA Flash vs 1 channel on the USB Flash and the controller using different write leveling algorithm to map logical addresses to actual physical cells. So the difference between a USB Thumbdrive and a USB SSD is like the difference between an eSATA single disk enclosure and an eSATA two disk RAID 0 enclosure. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
