[CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-6.0 i386 and x86_64

2011-07-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of CentOS-6.0 for 
i386 and x86_64 Architectures.

CentOS-6.0 is based on the upstream release EL 6.0 and includes packages 
from all variants. All upstream repositories have been combined into 
one, to make it easier for end users to work with.

There are some important changes to this release compared with the 
previous versions of CentOS and we highly recommend reading this 
announcement along with the Release Notes at 
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0

There are no CD images being released with CentOS-6, however we have 
some CD variants in the pipeline. Details for these are mentioned below.

Since upstream has a 6.1 version already released, we will be using a 
Continous Release repository for 6.0 to bring all 6.1 and post 6.1 
security updates to all 6.0 users, till such time as CentOS-6.1 is 
released itself. There will be more details about this posted within the 
next 48 hours.

+++
Upgrading from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5:

We recommend everyone run through a reinstall rather than attempt an 
inplace upgrade from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5

+++
LiveCD and LiveDVD

LiveCDs and LiveDVDs for i386 and x86_64 will be released within the 
next few days. These will bring in the ability to directly install from 
the livemedia.

+++
Minimal Install CD

We have also created a minimal install CD, that would bring up a base 
machine with just enough content to have a usable platform. This CD 
image will be released in the next few days.

+++
The LightWeightServer (LWS) CD

In order to bring back the CentOS-4 Server CD style single iso image, we 
are creating a LWS varient of the main distro. Details for this will be 
posted in the next few days with release happening after the live media 
and the minimal cd editions.

+++
Downloading CentOS-6.0 for new installs:

When possible, consider using torrents to run the downloads. In most 
cases you will find its also the fastest means to download the distro. 
There are currently over a thousand  people seeding CentOS-6 and it's 
possible to get upto 100mbps downloads via these torrents.

Torrent files for the DVD's are avilable at :
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6.0/isos/i386/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.torrent
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent

You can also use a mirror close to you :
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30

Most mirrors will allow direct DVD downloads over http, ftp and rsync.

Please keep in mind that not all mirrors are currently updated, some 
might take upto another 24 hours before they have all the content.

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sha1sum for the CentOS-6.0 ISOS:

i386:
fcf49e875cd4494f2af68cf257ab9e93523c9427  CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
862815623d2e7990207dd78a281837c7eb719e83  CentOS-6.0-i386-netinstall.iso

x86_64:
9de87b0c696ebd72b952edb4cc06c24cbdc37d81  CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD1.iso
5e3834621f11fbcca78cf7d70625c647045f45f5  CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD2.iso
23f9e606cbcbd52d2e5df3716a85cdde336f7bfe  CentOS-6.0-x86_64-netinstall.iso

+++
Sources and Debuginfo packages:

SRPMS and debuginfo packages are still making their way to the CentOS 
mirrors and should be available within the next 24 to 48 hours. We are 
prioritising the centos modified packages.

+++
Getting Help:

The best place to start when looking for help with CentOS is at the wiki 
( http://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp ) which lists various options and 
communities who might be able to help. If you think there is a bug in 
the system, do report it at http://bugs.centos.org/ - but keep in mind 
that the bugs system is *not* a support mechanism.

+++
Contributing and joining the project:

We are always looking for people to join and help with various things in 
the project. If you are keen to help out a good place to start is the 
wiki page at http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute . If you have questions 
or a specific area you would like to contribute towards that is not 
covered on that page, feel free to drop in on 
#centos-de...@irc.freenode.net for a chat or email the centos-devel list 
(http://lists.centos.org).

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Thanks to everyone who contributed towards making 6.0


Enjoy!

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Re: [CentOS-es] Consulta permisos Linux-Samba

2011-07-10 Thread Oscar Osta Pueyo
Hola,

 Tengo un directorio compartido para estaciones Windows a través de Samba.
 Lo que quisiera es saber como hacer para que los usuarios puedan crear
 archivos, directorios y editar los archivos o directorios ya creados, pero
 que no puedan borrar la data en esos directorios compartidos asi sea el
 usuario el dueño el usuario que lo haya creado Sin embargo si
 permitirle a 2 o 3 usuarios lo anterior descrito y que solo ellos puedan
 borrar la data.

Mira si con listas ACL puede solucionarlo...
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html

-- 
Saludos,
Oscar Osta Pueyo
@kiakli

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[CentOS-es] CentOS 6

2011-07-10 Thread Edg@r Rodolfo
Hola lista, asi como yo muchos estuvieron esperando centOS 6:
http://mirror.its.sfu.ca/mirror/CentOS/6.0/isos/i386/
Hay algunos espejos mas:
http://twitter.com/#!/centos, saludos.
Nota: lo que no entiendo es que dicen que falta un 0.1% del contenido
que pronto se liberará, que por ahora esta en un 99% del contenido, mi
pregunta es ese 0.1% es muy importante?¿, saludos reiterados...
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[CentOS-es] error al Instalar dgal-devel MAPSERVER

2011-07-10 Thread Carla Paulina Fernández Morocho










estoy queriendo instalar  mapserver-5.6.3 y bueno he realizado lo siguietne:


Como usuario root
Librerías requeridas
yum install libpng-devel
freetype-devel gd-devel zlib-devel   TODO OK

Librerías
muy recomendadas (proj ya se instaló para postgis)
yum install proj-devel curl-devel
gdal-devel agg-devel proj-epsg  TODO BIEN EXCEPTO gdal-devl
error

Setting up Install Process
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package gdal-devel.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: gdal = 1.4.4-2.el5.rf for package: gdal-devel
-- Processing Dependency: libgdal.so.1 for package: gdal-devel
-- Running transaction check
--- Package gdal.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so for package: gdal
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 from rpmforge has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package 
gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
Error: Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package 
gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
package-cleanup --dupes
rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

   
  La libreria  gdal-devl no se instala, tambien intenete esto:

--
  yum -y install gdal-devel

error

Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package gdal-devel.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: gdal = 1.4.4-2.el5.rf for package: gdal-devel
-- Processing Dependency: libgdal.so.1 for package: gdal-devel
-- Running transaction check
--- Package gdal.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so for package: gdal
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 from rpmforge has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package 
gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
Error: Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package 
gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
package-cleanup --dupes
rpm -Va --nofiles --nodiges

Tambien intente esto:

# rpm -ivh geos-devel-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm
error: Error de dependencias:
geos = 3.1.0-1.el5.rf se necesita para geos-devel-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386


Luego intente:


[root@svrmapas ~]# rpm -ivh geos-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm

error: Error de dependencias:
libgeos-3.1.0.so se necesita para geos-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386


por ultimo revise esto:

 cd /usr/local/lib/
geos/libgeos-3.2.2.so libgeos_c.so.1.6.2   libproj.so.0.6.6
libgdal.alibgeos-3.3.0rc2.so  libgeos_c.so.1.7.0   libxml2.a
libgdal.la   libgeos.alibgeos.la   libxml2.la
libgdal.so   libgeos_c.a  libgeos.so   libxml2.so
libgdal.so.1 libgeos_c.la libproj.alibxml2.so.2
libgdal.so.1.12.3libgeos_c.so libproj.la   libxml2.so.2.7.6
libgdal.so.1.14.2libgeos_c.so.1   libproj.so   pkgconfig/
libgeos-3.0.0.so libgeos_c.so.1.4.1   libproj.so.0 xml2Conf.sh

 y no se me asoma libgeos-3.1.0.so-- como se puede observar


AHORA SI NO SE QUE HACER ::.. BUSCO EN INTERNET ESTA LIBRERIA PERO NO LA HALLO

GRACIAS

carla 

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Re: [CentOS-es] Consulta permisos Linux-Samba

2011-07-10 Thread New Route Inc
Saludos,

Puedes mirar la opción del empleo de ACL's para complementar los derechos de
los usuarios.

Te recomiendo mirar este documento de AlcanceLibre
http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php?page=como-ACLdonde se
explica el tema y hay un ejemplo de como hacerlo.


El 7 de julio de 2011 17:49, Adolfo Salazar armic...@gmail.com escribió:

 Estimados:

 Quizá la pregunta sea muy sencilla, pero no encuentro la forma de hacerlo.

 Tengo un directorio compartido para estaciones Windows a través de Samba.

 Lo que quisiera es saber como hacer para que los usuarios puedan crear
 archivos, directorios y editar los archivos o directorios ya creados, pero
 que no puedan borrar la data en esos directorios compartidos asi sea el
 usuario el dueño el usuario que lo haya creado Sin embargo si
 permitirle a 2 o 3 usuarios lo anterior descrito y que solo ellos puedan
 borrar la data.

 He estado revisando, busque en internet y no encuentro la forma.

 Gracias por las respuestas a este correo.

 Saludos:

 Adolfo
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Re: [CentOS-es] error al Instalar dgal-devel MAPSERVER

2011-07-10 Thread Luciano Andrés Chiarotto
Hola Carla.

Disculpá que no pueda responder tu problema, te hago  una consulta...

Estoy interesado en armar una computadora y en ella instalar MapServer con
Centos 5.5, vos tendrías algún manual o página web donde haya
información que Yo pueda leer y saber cómo instalar MapServer y los
requisitos que necesito de computadora (Server) ?.

Desde ya muchas gracias.
Saludos.
El 8 de julio de 2011 16:35, Carla Paulina Fernández Morocho 
cpaul...@hotmail.com escribió:











 estoy queriendo instalar  mapserver-5.6.3 y bueno he realizado lo
 siguietne:


 Como usuario root
 Librerías requeridas
yum install libpng-devel
freetype-devel gd-devel zlib-devel   TODO OK

Librerías
muy recomendadas (proj ya se instaló para postgis)
yum install proj-devel curl-devel
gdal-devel agg-devel proj-epsg  TODO BIEN EXCEPTO gdal-devl
 error

 Setting up Install Process
 Resolving Dependencies
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package gdal-devel.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
 -- Processing Dependency: gdal = 1.4.4-2.el5.rf for package: gdal-devel
 -- Processing Dependency: libgdal.so.1 for package: gdal-devel
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package gdal.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
 -- Processing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so for package: gdal
 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 from rpmforge has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package
 gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package
 gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
  You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
package-cleanup --dupes
rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

 
  La libreria  gdal-devl no se instala, tambien intenete esto:

 --
  yum -y install gdal-devel

 error

 Resolving Dependencies
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package gdal-devel.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
 -- Processing Dependency: gdal = 1.4.4-2.el5.rf for package: gdal-devel
 -- Processing Dependency: libgdal.so.1 for package: gdal-devel
 -- Running transaction check
 --- Package gdal.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
 -- Processing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so for package: gdal
 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 from rpmforge has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package
 gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package
 gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
  You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
package-cleanup --dupes
rpm -Va --nofiles --nodiges

 Tambien intente esto:

 # rpm -ivh geos-devel-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm
 error: Error de dependencias:
geos = 3.1.0-1.el5.rf se necesita para
 geos-devel-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386


 Luego intente:


 [root@svrmapas ~]# rpm -ivh geos-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm

 error: Error de dependencias:
libgeos-3.1.0.so se necesita para geos-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386


 por ultimo revise esto:

  cd /usr/local/lib/
 geos/libgeos-3.2.2.so libgeos_c.so.1.6.2
 libproj.so.0.6.6
 libgdal.alibgeos-3.3.0rc2.so  libgeos_c.so.1.7.0   libxml2.a
 libgdal.la   libgeos.alibgeos.la   libxml2.la
 libgdal.so   libgeos_c.a  libgeos.so   libxml2.so
 libgdal.so.1 libgeos_c.la libproj.a
  libxml2.so.2
 libgdal.so.1.12.3libgeos_c.so libproj.la
 libxml2.so.2.7.6
 libgdal.so.1.14.2libgeos_c.so.1   libproj.so   pkgconfig/
 libgeos-3.0.0.so libgeos_c.so.1.4.1   libproj.so.0 xml2Conf.sh

  y no se me asoma libgeos-3.1.0.so-- como se puede
 observar


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 HALLO

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Re: [CentOS-es] error al Instalar dgal-devel MAPSERVER

2011-07-10 Thread Carlos Sura
2011/7/10 Luciano Andrés Chiarotto lachiaro...@gmail.com

 Hola Carla.

 Disculpá que no pueda responder tu problema, te hago  una consulta...

 Estoy interesado en armar una computadora y en ella instalar MapServer con
 Centos 5.5, vos tendrías algún manual o página web donde haya
 información que Yo pueda leer y saber cómo instalar MapServer y los
 requisitos que necesito de computadora (Server) ?.

 Desde ya muchas gracias.
 Saludos.
 El 8 de julio de 2011 16:35, Carla Paulina Fernández Morocho 
 cpaul...@hotmail.com escribió:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  estoy queriendo instalar  mapserver-5.6.3 y bueno he realizado lo
  siguietne:
 
 
  Como usuario root
  Librerías requeridas
 yum install libpng-devel
 freetype-devel gd-devel zlib-devel   TODO OK
 
 Librerías
 muy recomendadas (proj ya se instaló para postgis)
 yum install proj-devel curl-devel
 gdal-devel agg-devel proj-epsg  TODO BIEN EXCEPTO gdal-devl
  error
 
  Setting up Install Process
  Resolving Dependencies
  -- Running transaction check
  --- Package gdal-devel.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
  -- Processing Dependency: gdal = 1.4.4-2.el5.rf for package: gdal-devel
  -- Processing Dependency: libgdal.so.1 for package: gdal-devel
  -- Running transaction check
  --- Package gdal.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
  -- Processing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so for package: gdal
  -- Finished Dependency Resolution
  gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 from rpmforge has depsolving problems
   -- Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package
  gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
  Error: Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package
  gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
   You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
 package-cleanup --dupes
 rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
 
  
   La libreria  gdal-devl no se instala, tambien intenete esto:
 
  --
   yum -y install gdal-devel
 
  error
 
  Resolving Dependencies
  -- Running transaction check
  --- Package gdal-devel.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
  -- Processing Dependency: gdal = 1.4.4-2.el5.rf for package: gdal-devel
  -- Processing Dependency: libgdal.so.1 for package: gdal-devel
  -- Running transaction check
  --- Package gdal.i386 0:1.4.4-2.el5.rf set to be updated
  -- Processing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so for package: gdal
  -- Finished Dependency Resolution
  gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 from rpmforge has depsolving problems
   -- Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package
  gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
  Error: Missing Dependency: libgeos-3.1.0.so is needed by package
  gdal-1.4.4-2.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
   You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
 package-cleanup --dupes
 rpm -Va --nofiles --nodiges
 
  Tambien intente esto:
 
  # rpm -ivh geos-devel-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm
  error: Error de dependencias:
 geos = 3.1.0-1.el5.rf se necesita para
  geos-devel-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386
 
 
  Luego intente:
 
 
  [root@svrmapas ~]# rpm -ivh geos-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm
 
  error: Error de dependencias:
 libgeos-3.1.0.so se necesita para geos-3.1.0-1.el5.rf.i386
 
 
  por ultimo revise esto:
 
   cd /usr/local/lib/
  geos/libgeos-3.2.2.so libgeos_c.so.1.6.2
  libproj.so.0.6.6
  libgdal.alibgeos-3.3.0rc2.so  libgeos_c.so.1.7.0   libxml2.a
  libgdal.la   libgeos.alibgeos.la
 libxml2.la
  libgdal.so   libgeos_c.a  libgeos.so   libxml2.so
  libgdal.so.1 libgeos_c.la libproj.a
   libxml2.so.2
  libgdal.so.1.12.3libgeos_c.so libproj.la
  libxml2.so.2.7.6
  libgdal.so.1.14.2libgeos_c.so.1   libproj.so   pkgconfig/
  libgeos-3.0.0.so libgeos_c.so.1.4.1   libproj.so.0
 xml2Conf.sh
 
   y no se me asoma libgeos-3.1.0.so-- como se puede
  observar
 
 
  AHORA SI NO SE QUE HACER ::.. BUSCO EN INTERNET ESTA LIBRERIA PERO NO LA
  HALLO
 
  GRACIAS
 
  carla
 
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A lo mejor esto te sirve:

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libgeos-3.1.0.so()(64bit)

[CentOS-es] Presentación

2011-07-10 Thread linux


Amigos:



Mi nombre es Luis y llevo bastante tiempo trabajando con Linux a nivel de
escritorio; ahora pretendo involucarme con el tema de los servidores sobre
CentOS.

Como no tengo preparación formal en tecnología voy a molestarlos
con algunas consultas que me ayudarán a entender la forma de resolver los
problemas.

Espero contar con su ayuda y paciencia



Saludos



Luis



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[CentOS-es] Configurar cliente de correo en modo texto

2011-07-10 Thread linux


Estimados:



Tengo instalado Centos 5.5 en modo texto sobre una maquina virtual sobre Ubuntu,
estoy intentando configurar un cliente de correo desde la consola; me he
documentaqdo que no existe un cliente de correo propiamente tal, sino que debo
trabajar con dos componentes: un Mail User Agent (MUTT) y un Mail Transport
Agent (Postfix).

Por favor confirmenme si entendí correctamente la estructura y en donde
debería configurar el servidor POP y SMTP de las cuentas de correo que
quiero revisar desde la consola.



Saludos



Luis


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Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-10 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/8/11, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 7/8/2011 9:45 AM, John Hodrien wrote:

 I was curious, so *did* find out what the cause was, and it's entirely not
 CentOS's fault.  It's very hard to shoot blindly given that the cause was
 likely not to be CentOS.  That only left his autoconf files, and tracing
 configure made it quite easy to find.


 So he's done something non-standard that he doesn't remember on the RH
 system where he claims it works

Specifically somebody edited the files on a Windows machine and the
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Re: [CentOS] Wierd cursor jump when I type letter y

2011-07-10 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/10/11, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:
 Can't say. It is my personal lap-top. But I think I have seen the same
 behavior on my CentOS 5.6 desktop, but right now I can not be sure.

 I am atypical keyboard user. I often have problems when I try to use the
 Shift key, I press it but it is like I have not done so, and I can
 reproduce this on at least 3 separate keyboards, and this jumping.
 H, just now it jumped 7 rows up + ~35 char to the right, but on the
 this word from last sentence. But it does not happen that often to
 warrant reinstall or something similar.

 I am just wondering if someone knows what might be happening.

Sounds familiar to me. Which is why the first thing I do on my
Thinkpads is to disable the trackpad :D

I will never buy a laptop that didn't have a trackpoint or equivalent.
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[CentOS] bond0 performance issues in 5.6

2011-07-10 Thread Digimer
Hi all,

   I've got two gigabit ethernet interfaces bonded in CentOS 5.6. I've 
set miimode=1000 and I've tried mode= 0, 4 and 6. I've not been able 
to get better than 112MB/sec, which is the same as the non-bonded 
interfaces.

   My config files are:

===
cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-{eth1,eth2,bond0}
# SN1
HWADDR=00:30:48:fd:26:71
DEVICE=eth1
BOOTPROTO=none
MASTER=bond0
SLAVE=yes

# SN2
HWADDR=00:1B:21:87:80:CE
DEVICE=eth2
BOOTPROTO=none
MASTER=bond0
SLAVE=yes

# Bonded interfaces for Storage Network
DEVICE=bond0
IPADDR=192.168.21.80
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
ONBOOT=yes
BOOTPROTO=none
USERCTL=no
BONDING_OPTS=miimon=1000 mode=0
===

I'm running benchmarks using iperf (.90 is the second machine with a 
matching bonded connection):

===
iperf -f M -c 192.168.21.90

Client connecting to 192.168.21.90, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 0.02 MByte (default)

[  3] local 192.168.21.80 port 35728 connected with 192.168.21.90 port 5001
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec  1086 MBytes   109 MBytes/sec
===

This is the speed a non-bonded interface:

===
iperf -f M -c 192.168.22.90

Client connecting to 192.168.22.90, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 0.02 MByte (default)

[  3] local 192.168.22.80 port 57475 connected with 192.168.22.90 port 5001
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec  1125 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
===

The switch is a D-Link DGS-3100, which is a managed switch that I 
believe is capable of 801.3ad (for mode=4).

Any advice?

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Re: [CentOS] Show your CentOS Support

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Karanbir Singh wrote:
 If you would like one, please send me an email on kbsingh at the 
 centos.org domain, and let me know your address and what size you would 
 want, I would be happy to ship it out to any part of the world as long 
 as you are willing to cover postage costs ( as an example : they fit 
 into jiffy bags that cost £1 at the postoffice, and its about £1.50 
 shipping per Tshirt to the UK via first class ).

Guys, guys!!!

Have you READ KB's mail at all?

- Mail must be send off-list to the mail he provided (kbsingh at the
centos.org domain)

- You will only pay for shipping and packing, to the Post 
Office/UPS/Fedex/whatever

I believe you will have to re-send your mails to the correct address.

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Ron Blizzard wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Always Learning cen...@u6.u22.net wrote:
 
 The truth is my mp3 playing ability was installed about a year ago when
 I was first introduced to Centos and I experienced a very rapid and
 steep learning curve (which I successfully overcame as usual). I do not
 know where the mp3 playing ability came from.
 
 To me it really doesn't matter where it (and the DVD stuff) comes from
 -- it's just a one-time repository set up anyhow and then it updates
 itself. What Windows users don't realize is that most of their codecs
 come from the add-on applications that need to be installed. At least
 it did in XP (not sure about Vista and Vista 7). Try playing a DVD
 without installing PowerDVD or burning CDs or DVDs without Nero (for
 example). The reason most Windows' users don't run into this issue is
 because their computers usually come pre-installed with OEM software.
 If you install Linux Mint (for one) you never have to worry about any
 of this either. And it's only a minor issue with CentOS and those
 distributions that don't come with codecs (and Flash, etc)
 pre-installed.
 
That is exactly why I intend to create Desktop version, regular CentOS 
with additional repositories and virtual package(s) pulling necessary 
real packages. If launched from main menu it could be done as an add-on 
package enhancing existing CentOS.

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey

On 09/07/2011 23:20, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

Craig White wrote:

The reality is that applications are becoming more and more web based
SAAS and as the costs of specific applications needed on specific
platforms (ie, Quickbooks) rise, web based SAAS will replace them. The
point is that for end users, the OS is eventually going to become
irrelevant.


Hm. First wider loss of internet access of something like Power loss in
Japan will wake up most of the people that are now into Cloud based
computing.


Actually, I think first major Cloud player to be majorly hacked will be 
a double whammy to kill off the 'cloud' mentality:


At least the following two will occur:

* Everyone will question the security and privacy of their data in the 
'cloud'.
* The cloud provider will shut down for a couple of weeks (like the 
Playstation saga) to investigate what was accessed and how.


Can your company afford to be without your apps and data for a couple of 
weeks, while some hacker organisation has it?


I think not.




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Re: [CentOS] Wierd cursor jump when I type letter y

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey

On 10/07/2011 00:10, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

Guys. I have this problem for a long time.

In large number of times when I type letter y, like in you my typing
cursor jumps 2-3 rows up or 1-2 words to the left.

I am unable to understand why. Could it be something with lap-top
keyboard? Typing rate?

CentOS 5.5 Gnome, I mostly use Firefox and Thunderbird.

Check your key modifiers, sometimes they get stuck - serves us right for 
eating biscuits at the keyboard.


By key modifiers I mean (Ctrl-L, Alt, AltGr, Ctrl-R, Fn etc...)

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John R. Dennison wrote:
 Symantec is garbage and has been for many years.  Don't care for
 Kaspersky from past use, but that was indeed KAV as I've not used
 anything else from them.  Perhaps I should evaluate their KIS offering.
 
 I've had absolutely no trouble whatsoever with Avast other than on my
 own personal desktop and that was strictly caused by my usage patterns
 and would not affect normal users in any way; I recommend and install
 avast on not only on family and friends boxes but on clients as well.
 
I added Symantec mostly from past experience, haven't used it in years.

Having Free versions (in general) that can really make PC's secure would 
defeat the purpose of having paid version, so they always lack 
something, mostly real-time application prevention. Once certain 
stronger trojans/malwares are incorporated they even stop KIS from 
installing in the first place. Not many of them, but I had that 
experience, and had to reinstall/format c: partition.

I chose Kaspersky because of two things. Lesser in intensity is that he 
is from Russia, with different mindset very close to ours, but turning 
point when I started to think about actually paying for the product (at 
the dawn of my legality awakening) was when Eugen K. came to Belgrade 
to receive some award for his product. TV reporter asked him after the 
ceremony if he is going to go sightseeing the town, and he's response 
was No. I have flight back in one hour, I must get back to my work.

Also worth mentioning is that there is Kaspersky for Linux Workstations 
and Servers, and even for the Mac:
http://www.kaspersky.com/applications_list

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Re: [CentOS] bond0 performance issues in 5.6

2011-07-10 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 07/10/2011 08:14 AM, Digimer wrote:
 Any advice?

Are there any 802.3ad modes that allow a single connection to span
more than one slave?

Mogens

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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-10 Thread Charles Polisher
Giles Coochey wrote:
 On 09/07/2011 01:06, Les Mikesell wrote:
 Turning off negotiation pretty much guarantees problems if
 anything changes at the other end or you use an unmanaged switch.
 And the gigabit spec requires auto-negotiation.
 
 Let me make it clear - auto-negotiation only works if
 auto-negotiation is configured on both sides. It does not work if
 one side hard codes the speed and duplex. Both sides have to be set
 for it to negotiate. Agreeing on speed and duplex ensures that it
 will work.
 
 If something is going to change on the remote end without you
 knowing, or your provider is using an unmanaged switch then it's
 time to change provider :-) - they obviously are cheapskates and
 don't have any change management control on their systems.
 
 Gigabit is different.

My reading of the spec is that when a port is configured for 1GbE 
over 1000BASE-T (copper), disabling auto-negotiation disables the
advertising of the auto-negotiation for 10BASE-T and 100BASE-T, but 
auto-negotiation is still advertised and operational for 1GbE.
Auto-negotiation cannot be disabled for 1000BASE-X (optical fiber).

Deviation from the spec would mean such kit is Ethernet-like.
An ability to set auto-negotiation one way in the user interface 
while leaving the hardware in a different - standards conforming - 
state is possible.

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:

 That is exactly why I intend to create Desktop version, regular CentOS
 with additional repositories and virtual package(s) pulling necessary
 real packages. If launched from main menu it could be done as an add-on
 package enhancing existing CentOS.

Sounds like a great idea.

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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Ned Slider wrote:
 That's just a by-product of the fact that it's never been a goal of 
 upstream to make RHEL a self-hosting distribution. It's not a deliberate 
 act designed to thwart rebuilders, be it Oracle or CentOS or anyone 
 else. And even if it were, then it obviously failed given Oracle, SL and 
 now CentOS have managed to successfully rebuild RHEL-6 (minus trademarks 
 and artwork).

I did say harder, not hard or impossible.

 
 Your comment came across, at least to me, as if Red Hat had deliberately 
 tried to make it harder to rebuild RHEL with some changes they made to 
 6, and that's simply not the case.

Even Oracle had to work on it for 4-5 months before release, enough for 
Red Hat to assert it self as the way to go if you want the real thing. 
That and change in how Kernel is distributed now (all patches are inside 
one tar file, and not separate as they are in 5.x) tells me that 
something IS going on, but limited enough not to show Red Hat as the bad 
wolf. They are business owned by greedy shareholders after all is said 
and done.

Anyhow, that is my personal impression and opinion, sharpened by many 
years of double standards, blackmails, attacks, armed conflicts, 
corrupted politicians and common thieves masked as fighters for 
democracy, civil and ascended NGO's telling us we are all bunch of 
murderers, etc., my country (Serbia) had endured (and still endures) in 
last 20 years, all because we refused to surrender to NATO. In first 
world war we lost 1/3 of the population fighting against Axis countries. 
In second we lost 1/4 of population fighting against same Axis and 
bombings of western side of Alied forces at the end of the war. Then in 
1990 we endured western-intelligence-agencies-enticed civil war. Then we 
were bombed in operation Merciful Angel in 1999 that bombed our 
hospitals with cassette and uranium bombs, and you are now telling me 
that world is in fact pink and corporations all play fair... If I am 
wrong than I will have to start visiting shrink(s).

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Re: [CentOS] Wierd cursor jump when I type letter y

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Giles Coochey wrote:
 On 10/07/2011 00:10, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Guys. I have this problem for a long time.

 In large number of times when I type letter y, like in you my typing
 cursor jumps 2-3 rows up or 1-2 words to the left.

 I am unable to understand why. Could it be something with lap-top
 keyboard? Typing rate?

 CentOS 5.5 Gnome, I mostly use Firefox and Thunderbird.

 Check your key modifiers, sometimes they get stuck - serves us right for 
 eating biscuits at the keyboard.
 
 By key modifiers I mean (Ctrl-L, Alt, AltGr, Ctrl-R, Fn etc...)
 
I do not have that problem now so  I just did it again, and yes, it 
is my thumb hitting trackpad with the middle joint. I just managed to 
minimize Thunderbird.

Thanks all, I never thought about that possibility.

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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:23:57AM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

Diatribe about Serbia removed.

Is this really the appropriate list for this type of political
pontification?




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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote:

 Actually, I think first major Cloud player to be majorly hacked will be a
 double whammy to kill off the 'cloud' mentality:

 At least the following two will occur:

 * Everyone will question the security and privacy of their data in the
 'cloud'.
 * The cloud provider will shut down for a couple of weeks (like the
 Playstation saga) to investigate what was accessed and how.

 Can your company afford to be without your apps and data for a couple of
 weeks, while some hacker organisation has it?

 I think not.

But it's not like you can't do both. The Cloud has the benefits of
convenience (available from anywhere) and flexibility (OS agnostic).
You would hope 1) That people back up their work (at least to other
locations in the Cloud), and 2) That they have a local substitute
suite of applications. And it's not like local machines are immune to
hardware and security break downs, especially for the majority who use
Windows.

At this point my music is stored online (Amazon, listening to it now),
a lot of my documents are created with Google Docs or Zoho, my email
is almost completely online (has been for years), my recent pictures
are stored and edited online (Picasa and Piknic), almost all my TV
watching is done online (Hulu, Crackle, TheWB) and a big chunk of my
movies are supplied from online sources (Hulu, Crackle, Netflix).

That said, I think it may happen that amount of traffic ultimately
falls in on itself. I don't see how Netflix (in the U.S.) can continue
to use nearly a quarter of the Web's bandwith (for example) without
paying some kind of tariff from the cable and DSL providers. So all
this streaming might slow down quite a lot if Hulu, Crackle, Netflix
and the others have to charge their customers for bandwith.

We'll see what happens.

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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey

On 10/07/2011 10:22, Charles Polisher wrote:

Gigabit is different.
My reading of the spec is that when a port is configured for 1GbE
over 1000BASE-T (copper), disabling auto-negotiation disables the
advertising of the auto-negotiation for 10BASE-T and 100BASE-T, but
auto-negotiation is still advertised and operational for 1GbE.
Auto-negotiation cannot be disabled for 1000BASE-X (optical fiber).

Deviation from the spec would mean such kit is Ethernet-like.
An ability to set auto-negotiation one way in the user interface
while leaving the hardware in a different - standards conforming -
state is possible.

Fiber is not a CSMA/CD medium, it's a Point to Point medium - Duplex is 
meaningless.


I've been referring to the Spec of 10/100 ports. For Gigabit ports 
1000Base-T, auto-negotiation is mandatory.


Quoting from Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonegotiation]


   Interoperability problems

The first version of the autonegotiation specification, IEEE 802.3u, was 
open to different interpretations. Although most manufacturers 
implemented this standard in one way, some others, including network 
giant Cisco, implemented it in a different way. Autonegotiation between 
devices that implemented it differently failed. This led many network 
administrators to not depend on autonegotiation and instead manually set 
the speed and duplex mode of each network interface card. Even Cisco 
recommended its customers not to use autonegotiation. However, the use 
of manually set configuration often led to duplex mismatches, in 
particular when two connected devices are:


 * One manually set to half duplex and one manually set to full duplex
 * One set to autonegotiation and one manually set to full duplex
 * Both sides manually set to full duplex where one side still expects
   an autonegotiating link partner and the other side has
   autonegotiation completely disabled (the side that expects an
   autonegotiating link partner will fall back to half duplex because
   it does not detect a partner capable of full duplex)^[/citation
   needed/]

Duplex mismatch problems are difficult to diagnose because the network 
is apparently working, and simple programs used for network tests such 
as ping report a valid connection; however, the network is much slower 
than expected.


The debatable portions of the autonegotiation specifications were 
eliminated by the 1998 release of 802.3. This was later followed by the 
release of IEEE 802.3ab in 1999. The new standard specified that gigabit 
Ethernet over copper wiring requires autonegotiation. Currently, all 
network equipment manufacturers—including Cisco^[3] —recommend to use 
autonegotiation on all access ports. Cisco also recommends that you 
check back with them yearly for any potential changes in their 
recommendation as this has caused much confusion over the years. ^[4]


In some large installations that have had to deal with negotiation 
issues, network staff may believe that autonegotiation doesn't work, 
and consider turning it off a best-practice. This should be avoided - 
once autonegotiation is turned off, it will not work by definition, 
creating a self-enforcing problem.




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Re: [CentOS] Show your CentOS Support

2011-07-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/10/2011 03:35 AM, Always Learning wrote:
 Should we be paying a reasonable fee plus postage for each t-shirt ?
 The fee could go towards the expenses of the Centos Project.

That is a good idea, however these specific T-Shirts were contributed, 
and I would much rather they get widespread dispersion than bring in 
funds. What would be a better idea is if someone wants to step up and 
sponsor another 100 or so, and I would be happy to keep this process 
running ( ie. ship them out to people against cost of postage )

 I'm willing to pay for the tee-shirt, the postage and make an excellent
 suggestion for KB to use, not jiffy bags (padded envelopes) but the very
 thin,  secure and self-sealing film-type mailing envelopes which weigh
 virtually nothing. An advantage when sending goods abroad (externally).

I'll look into that - I just prefered these ones since they seemed a bit 
sturdy.

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey

On 10/07/2011 10:40, Ron Blizzard wrote:

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Giles Coocheygi...@coochey.net  wrote:

Can your company afford to be without your apps and data for a couple of
weeks, while some hacker organisation has it?

I think not.
But it's not like you can't do both. The Cloud has the benefits of
convenience (available from anywhere) and flexibility (OS agnostic).
You would hope 1) That people back up their work (at least to other
locations in the Cloud), and 2) That they have a local substitute
suite of applications. And it's not like local machines are immune to
hardware and security break downs, especially for the majority who use
Windows.

Well, do both then, but at double the cost!!

The whole point to CEOs and CFOs about going with the Cloud is that they 
will save money on IT infrastructure and possibly get rid of 'that 
scruffy guy in the basement 'who's done our IT for the last few 
years'... they never really trusted him anyway, and 'Joe and Bill' from 
'ABC Cloud Consulting' seemed like 'my kind of people on the Golf course 
last Thursday afternoon.'




At this point my music is stored online (Amazon, listening to it now),
a lot of my documents are created with Google Docs or Zoho, my email
is almost completely online (has been for years), my recent pictures
are stored and edited online (Picasa and Piknic), almost all my TV
watching is done online (Hulu, Crackle, TheWB) and a big chunk of my
movies are supplied from online sources (Hulu, Crackle, Netflix).
I'm not really referring to your music, movies and porn. I'm referring 
to the enterprise applications that corporations use.





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Re: [CentOS] Show your CentOS Support

2011-07-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/09/2011 07:52 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 If you would like one, please send me an email

Still have about 15 un-allocated.. I will be in touch with everyone who 
emailed about the T-Shirts in about 5 - 7 days time, with costs.

It looks like a fair few ( 40 or so ) are heading to the US. And it 
might be a good idea to just ship the lot over to someone who can then 
further distribute locally.

Makes me quite happy that we even had 1 request from Antartica, the 
Argentinian Geological expidition :) Good thing their postal adderess 
isnt Antartica though.

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Always Learning cen...@u6.u22.net wrote:


 Hoi Rudi,


  CentOS is great as a server OS, but it won't replace our accountant's
  Windows 7 desktop - the amount of technical compatibilies issues we're
  going to sit with is just not worth it.
 
  Don't use a jack hammer to drive in a nail :)

 Centos 5.5 works well for my non-computer literate friends who use a
 computer for Facebook and web browsing.



I never said CentOS won't work great for this.


But, try and convert someone who uses Pastel Accounting, Quickbooks,
Lightroom, AutoCAD, Adobe Premier, etc, to name but a few.

The point I'm making is that it won't suit everyone's needs.


And yes, I know where you're coming from. Many years ago my mother used to
work on a DOS based application in the hospital and when it came to
converting their system to Windows 98 (which then used a mouse) it took many
months to try and get her to use a mouse.
My mother-in-law is not computer literate at all. She has a PC to facebook
and play games on. And now matter how many times I've tried to show her how
to cut an MP3 CD, she simply can't remember todo it. Now for me to convert
her desktop to Linux would be an absolute nightmare.

I remember some years ago I converted a guy who used to study MCSE with me
(yes, I know.) to Linux. He absolutely LOVED it. I gave him a Suse Live
CD - this was about 8 or 9 years ago I think, and then he decided to install
it on his PC. Big mistake. He didn't know that to format your Hard Drive
means it will completely wipe everything from it. So he lost all his data.
We had some words and he wanted to sue me for ruining his business. And yes,
the mistake I made, was that I didn't sit next to him 24/7 and spoon fed
him. I thought he would be somewhat technically competent to understand what
he's going todo with his PC. BUT, he wanted to save money
on Microsoft licensing.


P.S. Have you every tried to convert a MAC user, specifically a 3D graphic
designer to anything other than MAC?
Different people have different needs and different applications (and
Operating Systems) exist for that exact reason :)


I run Windows 7 on on both my laptop and my Desktop cause we have some
business applications which won't run on Linux.
Yet some of the developers in the office use either Debian, Slackware or
CentOS.
All our servers though run CentOS, FreeBSD and Solaris. Even my media player
and 12TB NAS (my wife is a photographer) at home runs CentOS.




 I use Centos 5.6 on servers, desktops, home server/desktop, laptop,
 notebook/netbook and would never willingly return to ghastly M$ Windoze.


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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote:
 On 10/07/2011 10:40, Ron Blizzard wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Giles Coocheygi...@coochey.net  wrote:

 Can your company afford to be without your apps and data for a couple of
 weeks, while some hacker organisation has it?

 I think not.
 But it's not like you can't do both. The Cloud has the benefits of
 convenience (available from anywhere) and flexibility (OS agnostic).
 You would hope 1) That people back up their work (at least to other
 locations in the Cloud), and 2) That they have a local substitute
 suite of applications. And it's not like local machines are immune to
 hardware and security break downs, especially for the majority who use
 Windows.

 Well, do both then, but at double the cost!!

 The whole point to CEOs and CFOs about going with the Cloud is that they
 will save money on IT infrastructure and possibly get rid of 'that scruffy
 guy in the basement 'who's done our IT for the last few years'... they never
 really trusted him anyway, and 'Joe and Bill' from 'ABC Cloud Consulting'
 seemed like 'my kind of people on the Golf course last Thursday afternoon.'

I get your point about CEOs and CFOs (greed blunts good sense in many
instances), but don't most corporations already have local and network
backups? So they are already redundant. If they go to the Cloud I
would assume they would continue local backups.

 At this point my music is stored online (Amazon, listening to it now),
 a lot of my documents are created with Google Docs or Zoho, my email
 is almost completely online (has been for years), my recent pictures
 are stored and edited online (Picasa and Piknic), almost all my TV
 watching is done online (Hulu, Crackle, TheWB) and a big chunk of my
 movies are supplied from online sources (Hulu, Crackle, Netflix).

 I'm not really referring to your music, movies and porn. I'm referring to
 the enterprise applications that corporations use.

Porn? You trying to piss me off, pal, with your dismissive bullshit?
Quit projecting.

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey

On 10/07/2011 11:22, Ron Blizzard wrote:

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Giles Coocheygi...@coochey.net  wrote:

Well, do both then, but at double the cost!! The whole point to CEOs 
and CFOs about going with the Cloud is that they will save money on 
IT infrastructure and possibly get rid of 'that scruffy guy in the 
basement 'who's done our IT for the last few years'... they never 
really trusted him anyway, and 'Joe and Bill' from 'ABC Cloud 
Consulting' seemed like 'my kind of people on the Golf course last 
Thursday afternoon.' 

I get your point about CEOs and CFOs (greed blunts good sense in many
instances), but don't most corporations already have local and network
backups? So they are already redundant. If they go to the Cloud I
would assume they would continue local backups.


(offsite) Backups are usually sold as part of the Cloud service. The very fact 
that the data is not locally stored anymore makes local backups not very 
feasible anyway.
Many corporations are considering moving their entire infrastructure to cloud 
or 'cloud-like' services.

Just look at http://www.microsoft.com/office365

It is not being sold as an add-on to enterprise infrastructure, it's being sold 
as a replacement.

The reference to 'porn' was meant to be a light hearted reference to 'your 
personal stuff', as opposed to 'your work stuff'.




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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote:

 The reference to 'porn' was meant to be a light hearted reference to 'your
 personal stuff', as opposed to 'your work stuff'.

Okay, you've made good points. Sorry about over-reacting. I'll
eventually learn that a CentOS desktop is the exception and try to
think in terms of servers. Though I think this thread was basically
started as a call to promoting CentOS on the desktop.

Again, please accept my apology.

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey

On 10/07/2011 11:40, Ron Blizzard wrote:

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Giles Coocheygi...@coochey.net  wrote:


The reference to 'porn' was meant to be a light hearted reference to 'your
personal stuff', as opposed to 'your work stuff'.

Okay, you've made good points. Sorry about over-reacting. I'll
eventually learn that a CentOS desktop is the exception and try to
think in terms of servers. Though I think this thread was basically
started as a call to promoting CentOS on the desktop.

Maybe, perhaps I'm blabbering on in the wrong thread.

On the desktop side of things, I do like to run Centos full screen in a 
VM sometimes and I find the Linux environment does help to focus my mind 
on things a little - especially when trying to tackle a technical issue, 
whereas Windows 7 (my VM host environment), seems to provide me with a 
lot of distractions that seem to fog my mind when I'm trying to think 
about and resolve things on a technical level.



Again, please accept my apology.


No apology required.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 supported hardware

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:24 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:35 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
 On Friday, July 08, 2011 12:01:36 PM Christopher Chan wrote:
 Professional Wireless Router? That knocked me off my seat :-D. 'Wireless
 router' has become associated in my mind with that device you put in
 homes. So what professional wireless routers are out there?
 Cisco has a few; see the ISR G2 1941W for one that is a 'cut above' the 
 former Linksys product lines.

 Larger Cisco ISR's (2900 and 3900 series) support a network module that 
 acts as a supervisor of sorts for Cisco access points, too.

 /me shrugs. I am happy as a fish in water with them Aerohive 340 APs and
 HP 2910al PoE+ switches. Lifetime warranty, downloadable firmware for
 the switches and the access points have proven to be pain free once setup.

 No blooming uber expensive support contract to deal with.

 Those can be marked as Office applications, but not the professional.

What are you blabbering about? What Office applications?



 Professional link Today would be those that can pass 150Mbps of *real*
 throughtput with full routing up to the distance of 30km, or 75Mbps up
 to 55km. And it can be done under 1000 EUR ($1500) without large
 batteries, solar chargers or similar accessory gear.
 And those routers/AP's that are rated 300Mbps and have 100Mbps LAN and
 weak CPU. heh.


Excuse me? We are talking about WIFI and not just wireless 'wan' links 
right? In any case, I suspect that the Aerohive 340 can do uber km too 
with a change to directional antennae and other stuff to boost signal 
quality.

BTW, if you are implying that the Aerohive only has FastEthernet ports, 
you are dead wrong. They have dual Gigabit ports, have done 20MiB/sec 
transfers on a single host, support up to 40 clients simultaneously and 
these were the results in the UAT. A bit short of their claim of 60 
clients simultaneously but that is probably human error...we did not 
have 60 persons to simultaneously click the file download but we managed 
to get 40 going at the same time.
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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/10/11 1:46 AM, Giles Coochey wrote:
 Fiber is not a CSMA/CD medium, it's a Point to Point medium - Duplex 
 is meaningless. 

so is twisted pair.


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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-10 Thread Giles Coochey

On 10/07/2011 12:57, John R Pierce wrote:

On 07/10/11 1:46 AM, Giles Coochey wrote:

Fiber is not a CSMA/CD medium, it's a Point to Point medium - Duplex
is meaningless.

so is twisted pair.




ha... ha... of course, interesting.

I guess what I was trying to say is that for fiber connections duplex 
has no meaning, was there ever a fiber 'hub' where multiple point to 
point connections 'shared' a medium? (in a virtual sense)






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Re: [CentOS] bond0 performance issues in 5.6

2011-07-10 Thread Joseph L. Casale
   I've got two gigabit ethernet interfaces bonded in CentOS 5.6. I've 
set miimode=1000 and I've tried mode= 0, 4 and 6. I've not been able 
to get better than 112MB/sec, which is the same as the non-bonded 
interfaces.

Most people misunderstand bonding/link aggregation. A single conversation
travels over one link to avoid tcp reordering, link aggregation helps with
multiple conversations if setup in non FT modes only.
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Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread Edson - PMSS
Thanks for your note. I'll wait for the final result. I trust fully in 
the development team. Mainly by the work done so far and stability achieved.

Em 09-07-2011 14:32, Karanbir Singh escreveu:
 Hi,

 On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote:
 I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of
 version 6.0.
 yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are
 bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But
 there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few
 months lets try and address all of those.

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Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread Hal Davison
On 7/10/2011 8:15 AM, Edson - PMSS wrote:
 Thanks for your note. I'll wait for the final result. I trust fully in
 the development team. Mainly by the work done so far and stability achieved.

 Em 09-07-2011 14:32, Karanbir Singh escreveu:
 Hi,

 On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote:
 I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of
 version 6.0.
 yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are
 bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But
 there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few
 months lets try and address all of those.

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[CentOS] CentOS and Bandwidth

2011-07-10 Thread Michael Peterson

I am looking forward to using CentOS 6 soon.

I have the torrent running to download and help others download it.

I am trying out Scientific Linux 6 while awaiting the arrival of CentOS 6.
It took a lot of work to get it installed and configured on a system.
I plan to run them both on 2 systems and see what happens.

I look forward to the release of CentOS 6.1 soon also.
Let me know where I can browse to see if I can help in any areas other
than the torrent.

If I have a T1 size pipe going out what is my max possible kB out?

I have the torrent turned up to 100kB and my VPN still seems responsive.

Thanks for all the hard working in getting this release ready.

Good job on getting CentOS 5.6 out first however.


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Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread Patrick Lists
On 07/10/2011 03:10 PM, Hal Davison wrote:
 What innovations will Cent 6 bring to the 
 party in your opinion?

http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2010/new-standard.html

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS and Bandwidth

2011-07-10 Thread Drew Weaver
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of 
Michael Peterson
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:15 AM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] CentOS and Bandwidth


I am looking forward to using CentOS 6 soon.

I have the torrent running to download and help others download it.

I am trying out Scientific Linux 6 while awaiting the arrival of CentOS 6.
It took a lot of work to get it installed and configured on a system.
I plan to run them both on 2 systems and see what happens.

I look forward to the release of CentOS 6.1 soon also.
Let me know where I can browse to see if I can help in any areas other
than the torrent.

If I have a T1 size pipe going out what is my max possible kB out?

I have the torrent turned up to 100kB and my VPN still seems responsive.

Thanks for all the hard working in getting this release ready.

Good job on getting CentOS 5.6 out first however.
==

1,540,000 (bps) / 8 * .90 = your maximum throughput in Bps.

thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Patrick Lists 
centos-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote:

 On 07/10/2011 03:10 PM, Hal Davison wrote:
  What innovations will Cent 6 bring to the
  party in your opinion?

 http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2010/new-standard.html

 Regards,
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It's interesting how that article was released in November 2010 ..


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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 10:23 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 Anyhow, that is my personal impression and opinion, sharpened by many 
 years of double standards, blackmails, attacks, armed conflicts, 
 corrupted politicians and common thieves masked as fighters for 
 democracy, civil and ascended NGO's telling us we are all bunch of 
 murderers, etc., my country (Serbia) had endured (and still endures) in 
 last 20 years, all because we refused to surrender to NATO. In first 
 world war we lost 1/3 of the population fighting against Axis countries. 
 In second we lost 1/4 of population fighting against same Axis and 
 bombings of western side of Alied forces at the end of the war. Then in 
 1990 we endured western-intelligence-agencies-enticed civil war. Then we 
 were bombed in operation Merciful Angel in 1999 that bombed our 
 hospitals with cassette and uranium bombs, and you are now telling me 
 that world is in fact pink and corporations all play fair... If I am 
 wrong than I will have to start visiting shrink(s).


Having been very emotional distraught circa 1992-1994 when I repeatedly
argued passionately with my work colleagues that western (i.e. British)
aircraft attacking Serbian tanks and artillery would stop the massacre
of thousands of civilians from all parts of Yugoslavia, I wish to assert
that genocide and mass murders by any bunch of people is fundamentally
wrong. It is still happening today in Africa and probably elsewhere.

I saw the horrific scenes from Yugoslavia on television night after
night while the rest of the world was uncaring and inactive despite the
urgency of a determined military response to protect the civilians.

When limited UN Forces intervened, I remember with pride a British army
colonel (now a Conservative MP (member of the British Parliament))
angrily telling the murdering military that unless they stopped he would
instruct his force to open fire on them.

I visited Beograd during the UN sanctions and witnessed the run-down
conditions and the ad hoc petrol filling stations along the main roads -
cars parked at 90 degrees to the road with a large plastic container on
the bonnet. They said Hungarian petrol (bezine) was best because it
contained less water.

I stayed at the Beograd hotel where people were gunned-down. I had a
meeting in a building in the middle of the freezing winter with all the
windows wide open because the stench of dead bodies from the floor
beneath us was overpowering.

I am glad peace has come and I hope Europe never ever again tolerates
such a shameful period in its history.

Being friends, working together and respecting others is best.

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 03:46 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Also worth mentioning is that there is Kaspersky for Linux Workstations
 and Servers, and even for the Mac:
 http://www.kaspersky.com/applications_list


Aw, nobody put in a word for NOD32 from Eset?
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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Sunday, July 10, 2011 03:46 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Also worth mentioning is that there is Kaspersky for Linux Workstations
 and Servers, and even for the Mac:
 http://www.kaspersky.com/applications_list

 
 Aw, nobody put in a word for NOD32 from Eset?

Well, I place it between Kaspersky KIS and above the rest. Some people 
do love it because of the ease of cracking it's license :-D .

Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 09:52 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Sunday, July 10, 2011 03:46 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Also worth mentioning is that there is Kaspersky for Linux Workstations
 and Servers, and even for the Mac:
 http://www.kaspersky.com/applications_list


 Aw, nobody put in a word for NOD32 from Eset?

 Well, I place it between Kaspersky KIS and above the rest. Some people
 do love it because of the ease of cracking it's license :-D .


Really? Talk about irony.
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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John R. Dennison wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:23:57AM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 
 Diatribe about Serbia removed.
 
 Is this really the appropriate list for this type of political
 pontification?
 

I was one mail away from being shunned as just another crackpot 
conspiracy theorist because I always look for ulterior motives. People 
who never been exposed to systematic lying can not comprehend the dept 
of lies or deceptions and are quick to dismiss anything that is not in 
their comfort zone. So my intention was to say that I been through a lot 
since I was 16-17, lied or deceived constantly and in order to stay sane 
and safe learned to view any appearance from multiple standpoints.

But if I had said it like my last sentence, I would be challenged that 
it could not be so bad and that I must indeed be paranoid. So I added 
just a small part of what is sitting on my back and forming my opinion.

The actual point I wanted to make is not what western world has done 
to my country, that has been, is now (Libya for instance) and will be, 
and I am not moping about that. But looking from the other side of the 
presented truth (by corporate media) I have witnessed deliberate and 
opened lies from every single news media from *every* country including 
mine and from politicians and corporations, so perception that (even) 
Red Hat is not trying to undermine those he sees as enemies/competitors
is for me false.

Since I can only speak from personal experience, I focused on events in 
my former and current country.

For next few paragraphs forget parties involved and weigh the facts. 
This is can bee found somewhere on the net.

For example, one picture from Bosnian war where you see Serbian soldiers 
in in front of the barb wire and hungry civilians behind it was 
presented to entire world as horrible genocide comparable to Nazi's.

Truth:
Serbian television responded to that picture by broadcasting video 
footage of that same barb wire at the same time at the same place. Video 
showed soldiers standing *inside* the small open storage surrounded by 
barb wire and civilians standing around it leaning on to the wire and 
talking to the members of the press, both western and local. Civilians 
were some starved refugees given food and crud shelter.

I am sure you can find countless examples just like this one, in each 
war and on the every side of those wars. I for one have seen numerous 
accounts in last 20 years only in 600km radius (ex Yugoslavia). But we 
are oblivious to them and believe news media unless we actually witness 
some open lie, at witch time we forever stop trusting people explicitly.

I hope this clears things a bit and convince you I was focusing on 
deception and not the any political agenda.

Ljubomir




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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 05:50 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 I must be the only one keeping entire/beggining of the conversation in
 mind why replying. Either that or I am nutz.


Which one would you have us believe? :p

But seriously, one thing you have to understand is that threads always 
drift. People have different takes on what it is that is in the way of 
the mass adoption of the Linux desktop. Everybody has their pet app that 
would singlehandedly put Linux on the desktop. Like 3D Pinball. /me ducks.
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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:41 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 The actual point I wanted to make is not what western world has done
 to my country, that has been, is now (Libya for instance) and will be,
 and I am not moping about that. But looking from the other side of the
 presented truth (by corporate media) I have witnessed deliberate and
 opened lies from every single news media from *every* country including
 mine and from politicians and corporations, so perception that (even)
 Red Hat is not trying to undermine those he sees as enemies/competitors
 is for me false.

 I hope this clears things a bit and convince you I was focusing on
 deception and not the any political agenda.


Redhat does not try to undermine enemies/competitors. They get open 
source and GPL and they have an entire business model based on these two 
concepts. They do not need to undermine anybody because that is 
impossible with open source and especially so with software under GPL.

Redhat has gone BEYOND the GPL. The GPL only requires that you make the 
source and build scripts available to those that you distribute to. Nor 
are you required to make the source/build scripts available for free. 
The fact that you can get your grubby hands on the source rpms without 
even downloading RHEL let alone use/install RHEL is testimony to the 
fact that Redhat does not need to and has never tried to undermine any 
would be enemy/competitor. Think about it.
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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote:
 Having been very emotional distraught circa 1992-1994 when I repeatedly
 argued passionately with my work colleagues that western (i.e. British)
 aircraft attacking Serbian tanks and artillery would stop the massacre
 of thousands of civilians from all parts of Yugoslavia, I wish to assert
 that genocide and mass murders by any bunch of people is fundamentally
 wrong. It is still happening today in Africa and probably elsewhere.
I will be very brief, but we can communicate off-list.
That was misconception. JNA, Yugoslav army, was at that time 
multi-national, mixed on purpose from all sides of the country. In 
Slovenia, first to secede, JNA soldiers were sent in tanks without 
ammunition and were gunned down by sedition soldiers.

 
 I saw the horrific scenes from Yugoslavia on television night after
 night while the rest of the world was uncaring and inactive despite the
 urgency of a determined military response to protect the civilians.
Civilians were fighting each other. JNA was actually a buffer at the 
first part of the civil war but was attacked for their superior weapons.

 
 When limited UN Forces intervened, I remember with pride a British army
 colonel (now a Conservative MP (member of the British Parliament))
 angrily telling the murdering military that unless they stopped he would
 instruct his force to open fire on them.
 
 I visited Beograd during the UN sanctions and witnessed the run-down
 conditions and the ad hoc petrol filling stations along the main roads -
 cars parked at 90 degrees to the road with a large plastic container on
 the bonnet. They said Hungarian petrol (bezine) was best because it
 contained less water.
 
 I stayed at the Beograd hotel where people were gunned-down. I had a
 meeting in a building in the middle of the freezing winter with all the
 windows wide open because the stench of dead bodies from the floor
 beneath us was overpowering.
That must have been some organized crime related shooting. Belgrade was 
200km away from fighting.
 
 I am glad peace has come and I hope Europe never ever again tolerates
 such a shameful period in its history.
 
 Being friends, working together and respecting others is best.
I totally agree on this one.

I apologies for such off-topic violation to everybody, I am done with 
this tread on-list. Please send replies to my personal mail if you feel 
the need to respond.


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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Christopher Chan wrote:
 But seriously, one thing you have to understand is that threads always 
 drift. People have different takes on what it is that is in the way of 
 the mass adoption of the Linux desktop. Everybody has their pet app that 
 would singlehandedly put Linux on the desktop. Like 3D Pinball. /me ducks.

Oh, I know that. And I also know I am too smart for my own good. 
Otherwise I would already have several kids and would be blissfully 
unaware of deeper issues of the world. /me sight

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2011-07-10 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 16:41 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 For example, one picture from Bosnian war where you see Serbian soldiers 
 in in front of the barb wire and hungry civilians behind it was 
 presented to entire world as horrible genocide comparable to Nazi's.
 
 Truth:
 Serbian television responded to that picture by broadcasting video 
 footage of that same barb wire at the same time at the same place. Video 
 showed soldiers standing *inside* the small open storage surrounded by 
 barb wire and civilians standing around it leaning on to the wire and 
 talking to the members of the press, both western and local. Civilians 
 were some starved refugees given food and crud shelter.

Journalists - some are good, some insipid and crap and some are bad -
have been known to deliberately pose photographs. Some of these fakes
have been deliberately misleading. Some of the fakes were motivated by a
genuine desire to attempt to convey the seriousness of a situation which
they were able to photograph or film themselves.

The war, hopefully the last in Europe, is over. We can not live in the
past. Now is time for reconciliation and peace. Soon Serbia will be the
30th? member of the European Union. Remember the words to the EU anthem
about brothers (Ode to Joy from Ludwig van Beethoven's 9th Symphony. Van
Beethoven is a Dutch name yet Beethoven, born in Bonn, was a German.) 

European Unity means peace. 

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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 22:55 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:

 The fact that you can get your grubby hands on the source rpms

Hey, his hands were clean :-)


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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:41 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 
 The actual point I wanted to make is not what western world has done
 to my country, that has been, is now (Libya for instance) and will be,
 and I am not moping about that. But looking from the other side of the
 presented truth (by corporate media) I have witnessed deliberate and
 opened lies from every single news media from *every* country including
 mine and from politicians and corporations, so perception that (even)
 Red Hat is not trying to undermine those he sees as enemies/competitors
 is for me false.

 I hope this clears things a bit and convince you I was focusing on
 deception and not the any political agenda.

 
 Redhat does not try to undermine enemies/competitors. They get open 
 source and GPL and they have an entire business model based on these two 
 concepts. They do not need to undermine anybody because that is 
 impossible with open source and especially so with software under GPL.
 
 Redhat has gone BEYOND the GPL. The GPL only requires that you make the 
 source and build scripts available to those that you distribute to. Nor 
 are you required to make the source/build scripts available for free. 
 The fact that you can get your grubby hands on the source rpms without 
 even downloading RHEL let alone use/install RHEL is testimony to the 
 fact that Redhat does not need to and has never tried to undermine any 
 would be enemy/competitor. Think about it.

I see it as excellent business model that helped them be where they are 
now. The benefit for us/world is indisputable, and I am deeply grateful 
for that, but be aware that their business is based on giving *service* 
to their customers, and that board of directors is responsible for 
bringing ever increasing profit margin to their shareholders. They have 
found excellent balance, but were pressed from Oracle and they needed 
more time to distinctively separate from the crowd so customers are 
reminded that they *are* the leader. But it is only my view of the 
events, and I might be wrong. Or we both might be partially right.

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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote:
 The war, hopefully the last in Europe, is over. We can not live in the
 past. Now is time for reconciliation and peace. Soon Serbia will be the
 30th? member of the European Union. Remember the words to the EU anthem
 about brothers (Ode to Joy from Ludwig van Beethoven's 9th Symphony. Van
 Beethoven is a Dutch name yet Beethoven, born in Bonn, was a German.) 

AFAIK, Europe will ask us to give up on our province Kosovo in order to 
enter the Union. If Europe do that, there is not a single Serbian 
politician brave enough to accept that and end his carrier if not even 
his life.

Please lets go off-list with this. Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Always Learning

 Christopher Chan wrote:
  
  Redhat has gone BEYOND the GPL. The GPL only requires that you make the 
  source and build scripts available to those that you distribute to. Nor 
  are you required to make the source/build scripts available for free. 
  The fact that you can get your grubby hands on the source rpms without 
  even downloading RHEL let alone use/install RHEL is testimony to the 
  fact that Redhat does not need to and has never tried to undermine any 
  would be enemy/competitor. Think about it.

1. Red Hat, commercially, has to survive as a financially viable entity.
Meaning it must make a profit.

2. Competitors especially large ones like Oracle potentially, if not
actually, threaten Red Hat's profit making ability. The potential or
actual damage to Red Hat's profits may be small but the more established
Oracle's Red Hat Linux becomes, the greater the financial damage to the
essential profit making ability of Red Hat. Reduced profits at Red Hat
can adversely affect Red Hat's operation and inevitably Centos will
suffer to our detriment.

3. Therefore, contrary to your assertion

 Redhat does not need to and has never tried to undermine any
 would be enemy/competitor. Think about it.

Red Hat must always consider how to undermine any would be
enemy/competitor because, ultimately, Red Hat's own survival depends on
exactly that type of action. No profits = No Red Hat.



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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote:
 3. Therefore, contrary to your assertion
 
  Redhat does not need to and has never tried to undermine any
  would be enemy/competitor. Think about it.
 
 Red Hat must always consider how to undermine any would be
 enemy/competitor because, ultimately, Red Hat's own survival depends on
 exactly that type of action. No profits = No Red Hat.
 
 
 
Hey, you are on my side. You should be replying to Chan, not me :-D

you: sorry
me: it's ok, no harm done

(just to save few mails ;-) )

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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 17:29 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 Hey, you are on my side.

We are Europeans so we should be bothers AND we both like Centos :-)


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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:31 PM, Always Learning wrote:

 On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 17:29 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 Hey, you are on my side.

 We are Europeans so we should be bothers AND we both like Centos :-)



OH yes, you lot should be BOTHERS. :-D
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Re: [CentOS] Working with the upstream vendor

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:23 PM, Always Learning wrote:

 Christopher Chan wrote:

 Redhat has gone BEYOND the GPL. The GPL only requires that you make the
 source and build scripts available to those that you distribute to. Nor
 are you required to make the source/build scripts available for free.
 The fact that you can get your grubby hands on the source rpms without
 even downloading RHEL let alone use/install RHEL is testimony to the
 fact that Redhat does not need to and has never tried to undermine any
 would be enemy/competitor. Think about it.

 1. Red Hat, commercially, has to survive as a financially viable entity.
 Meaning it must make a profit.

 2. Competitors especially large ones like Oracle potentially, if not
 actually, threaten Red Hat's profit making ability. The potential or
 actual damage to Red Hat's profits may be small but the more established
 Oracle's Red Hat Linux becomes, the greater the financial damage to the
 essential profit making ability of Red Hat. Reduced profits at Red Hat
 can adversely affect Red Hat's operation and inevitably Centos will
 suffer to our detriment.

 3. Therefore, contrary to your assertion

  Redhat does not need to and has never tried to undermine any
  would be enemy/competitor. Think about it.

 Red Hat must always consider how to undermine any would be
 enemy/competitor because, ultimately, Red Hat's own survival depends on
 exactly that type of action. No profits = No Red Hat.




Redhat closing their bugzilla to clients only or merging all patches to 
the kernel they maintain for RHEL into one and sans comments is 
undermining the competition? Oracle can still get the source rpm and 
rebuild the very same kernel that Redhat puts out there.

Redhat making Oracle do their own legwork as respects kernel maintenance 
and finding/fixing bugs outside of Redhat knowledge is undermining the 
competition? You just don't get Redhat do you?
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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 05:12 AM, John R. Dennison wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 02:05:26PM -0700, Craig White wrote:

 The reality is that applications are becoming more and more web based
 SAAS and as the costs of specific applications needed on specific
 platforms (ie, Quickbooks) rise, web based SAAS will replace them. The
 point is that for end users, the OS is eventually going to become
 irrelevant.

 Tell that to the gamers that drive computer sales and technology
 advances.


/me rotfl. How big is the PC gaming market again? Compared to that of 
the console gaming market and other software markets. Oh, and the fact 
that crap like the Intel Atom have become rather popular.

Where is the blooming mass market HMD? How many gamers play as depicted 
in .hack? Look at the blow gaming accessories such as joysticks, rudders 
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Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread David G . Miller
Karanbir Singh mail-lists@... writes:

 
 Hi,
 
 On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote:
  I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of
  version 6.0.
 
 yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are 
 bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But 
 there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few 
 months lets try and address all of those.
 
 - KB
 
Because I needed the 6.0 versions of dhcpd and named for some IPv6 testing I was
doing, I grabbed Scientific Linux 6.0 right after it was released.  I also
signed up for the SL mailing list.  A couple of weeks ago (June 20th or so) the
SL folks announced the availability of SL 5.6.  I would interpret this as the SL
team chose to work on 6.0 and left 5.6 for later while the CentOS team worked on
5.6 and left 6.0 for later.  

I have no insight into what level of support the SL folks get from their
sponsoring organization (CERN and Fermilab) but as far as I'm concerned getting
the two releases out (5.6 and 6.0) was a dead heat between the two
distributions.  This is especially true if you consider that the SL team had the
benefit of the CentOS team's experience with 5.6.  I mention this because it
indicates to me that the CentOS process isn't broken.  On the other hand, if not
getting 5.6 and 6.0 out sooner gets more people involved in helping, it may have
long term benefits.

These are just my observations on two different teams working to release the
same two releases.  Carefully consider what changes you make to the release
process.  Oh yeah, great job guys and, yes, I'll be moving the SL 6 boxes and
VMs back to CentOS as time allows mainly because the community just isn't there
for SL (most days the mailing list only has a dozen or so posts; most of them
not very technical).

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] Show your CentOS Support

2011-07-10 Thread Chris Geldenhuis
Karanbir Singh wrote:
 hi guys,

 I have about 80 CentOS T-Shirts, ranging from Medium to 3XL in size.

 These are the grey T-shirts we can see Ralph, Garry and the guys from 
 hostdime modeling for us at: 
 http://www.karan.org/pics/centos/images/002-IMG_2571.JPG

 If you would like one, please send me an email on kbsingh at the 
 centos.org domain, and let me know your address and what size you would 
 want, I would be happy to ship it out to any part of the world as long 
 as you are willing to cover postage costs ( as an example : they fit 
 into jiffy bags that cost £1 at the postoffice, and its about £1.50 
 shipping per Tshirt to the UK via first class ).

 First come, first serve! And I will confirm costs before sending them out.

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Hi Karanbir,

If you still have I would like a 3XL T shirt. I will use it for Software 
Freedom Day (South Africa) in September where I have had a CentOS table 
for the past two years.

My Address is:

Chris Geldenhuis
P.O. Box 44002
Linden
2104

Alternatively you could ship it to my daughter at:

Mrs A Delcroix,
Avenue Bel Horizon 48
Genval, 01332
Belgium

I will sort out the cost of the T Shirt and postage with you.

TIA

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Re: [CentOS] Show your CentOS Support

2011-07-10 Thread Bubble Code
KB,
If you still have an XL size in stock, I would love to get hold of
one. Am in B'lore,India. Lemme know payment method you prefer.
Best regards
Saroj

On 7/10/11, Chris Geldenhuis chris.gel...@iafrica.com wrote:
 Karanbir Singh wrote:
 hi guys,

 I have about 80 CentOS T-Shirts, ranging from Medium to 3XL in size.

 These are the grey T-shirts we can see Ralph, Garry and the guys from
 hostdime modeling for us at:
 http://www.karan.org/pics/centos/images/002-IMG_2571.JPG

 If you would like one, please send me an email on kbsingh at the
 centos.org domain, and let me know your address and what size you would
 want, I would be happy to ship it out to any part of the world as long
 as you are willing to cover postage costs ( as an example : they fit
 into jiffy bags that cost £1 at the postoffice, and its about £1.50
 shipping per Tshirt to the UK via first class ).

 First come, first serve! And I will confirm costs before sending them out.

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 If you still have I would like a 3XL T shirt. I will use it for Software
 Freedom Day (South Africa) in September where I have had a CentOS table
 for the past two years.

 My Address is:

 Chris Geldenhuis
 P.O. Box 44002
 Linden
 2104

 Alternatively you could ship it to my daughter at:

 Mrs A Delcroix,
 Avenue Bel Horizon 48
 Genval, 01332
 Belgium

 I will sort out the cost of the T Shirt and postage with you.

 TIA

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[CentOS] question about release prm for 6

2011-07-10 Thread Mike Cutie and Maia
Hi,

 

I am running centos x686 and upgraded from 4 to 5 when it came out now I
want to try the same with centos 6 where can I get the centos i686 release
rpm I used does not have the rpm I used any help wood be greatfull

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Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6

2011-07-10 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/11/11, Mike Cutie and Maia msto...@centurylink.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I am running centos x686 and upgraded from 4 to 5 when it came out now I
 want to try the same with centos 6 where can I get the centos i686 release
 rpm I used does not have the rpm I used any help wood be greatfull

It's usually not recommended that you upgrade from one major version
to another i.e. 4.x to 5.x and 5.x to 6.x, although it might work,
there's a high chance of breaking things.
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[CentOS] Upgrade from CentOS 5.x to 6.0

2011-07-10 Thread Trey Dockendorf
Great news about CentOS 6.0 being available, and I figured I'd ask the most
obvious question, what can I expect when upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0?
 I have not had to go from one major version of CentOS to another so this is
new territory for me.  Is the processes just like an install except there's
an Upgrade option?  Does an upgrade do a yum update of everything
installed?  Most of my systems use EPEL and some the IUS repos...is there a
way during the upgrade to just upgrade system components and leave things
like PHP, httpd and MySQL alone for now?  Any suggestions on monitoring the
upgrade progress via syslog or some other method so I can see exactly what
is being done during the upgrade?

Thanks
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Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread David Lemcoe
Just so you know, I believe almost all mirrors have 6.0 on their disks.

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:28 PM, David G. Miller d...@davenjudy.org wrote:

 Karanbir Singh mail-lists@... writes:

 
  Hi,
 
  On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote:
   I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of
   version 6.0.
 
  yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are
  bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But
  there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few
  months lets try and address all of those.
 
  - KB
 
 Because I needed the 6.0 versions of dhcpd and named for some IPv6 testing
 I was
 doing, I grabbed Scientific Linux 6.0 right after it was released.  I also
 signed up for the SL mailing list.  A couple of weeks ago (June 20th or so)
 the
 SL folks announced the availability of SL 5.6.  I would interpret this as
 the SL
 team chose to work on 6.0 and left 5.6 for later while the CentOS team
 worked on
 5.6 and left 6.0 for later.

 I have no insight into what level of support the SL folks get from their
 sponsoring organization (CERN and Fermilab) but as far as I'm concerned
 getting
 the two releases out (5.6 and 6.0) was a dead heat between the two
 distributions.  This is especially true if you consider that the SL team
 had the
 benefit of the CentOS team's experience with 5.6.  I mention this because
 it
 indicates to me that the CentOS process isn't broken.  On the other hand,
 if not
 getting 5.6 and 6.0 out sooner gets more people involved in helping, it may
 have
 long term benefits.

 These are just my observations on two different teams working to release
 the
 same two releases.  Carefully consider what changes you make to the release
 process.  Oh yeah, great job guys and, yes, I'll be moving the SL 6 boxes
 and
 VMs back to CentOS as time allows mainly because the community just isn't
 there
 for SL (most days the mailing list only has a dozen or so posts; most of
 them
 not very technical).

 Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade from CentOS 5.x to 6.0

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Trey Dockendorf wrote:
 Great news about CentOS 6.0 being available, and I figured I'd ask the 
 most obvious question, what can I expect when upgrading from CentOS 5.6 
 to 6.0?  I have not had to go from one major version of CentOS to 
 another so this is new territory for me.  Is the processes just like an 
 install except there's an Upgrade option?  Does an upgrade do a yum 
 update of everything installed?  Most of my systems use EPEL and some 
 the IUS repos...is there a way during the upgrade to just upgrade system 
 components and leave things like PHP, httpd and MySQL alone for now? 
  Any suggestions on monitoring the upgrade progress via syslog or some 
 other method so I can see exactly what is being done during the upgrade?
 
 Thanks
 - Trey

Direct upgrade is NOT supported. You are advised to backup your old 
system, save all relevant parameters and personal data and do a clean 
install.

I think CentOS 6.0 by default uses etx4 partitions that are better then 
old ext3, so I would advise total reformat of root partition (*after* 
backup) and fresh install on newly formated partition.

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Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6

2011-07-10 Thread Mike Cutie and Maia
I am ok with that I have it on a test box that I want to try it on first.yy

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Of Emmanuel Noobadmin
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:38 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6

On 7/11/11, Mike Cutie and Maia msto...@centurylink.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I am running centos x686 and upgraded from 4 to 5 when it came out now I
 want to try the same with centos 6 where can I get the centos i686 release
 rpm I used does not have the rpm I used any help wood be greatfull

It's usually not recommended that you upgrade from one major version
to another i.e. 4.x to 5.x and 5.x to 6.x, although it might work,
there's a high chance of breaking things.
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Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6

2011-07-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Mike Cutie and Maia wrote:
 I am ok with that I have it on a test box that I want to try it on first.yy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
 Of Emmanuel Noobadmin
 Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:38 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6
 
 On 7/11/11, Mike Cutie and Maia msto...@centurylink.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I am running centos x686 and upgraded from 4 to 5 when it came out now I
 want to try the same with centos 6 where can I get the centos i686 release
 rpm I used does not have the rpm I used any help wood be greatfull
 
 It's usually not recommended that you upgrade from one major version
 to another i.e. 4.x to 5.x and 5.x to 6.x, although it might work,
 there's a high chance of breaking things.

Bare in mind that there are number of packages that are replaced with 
similar product, and number of packages has so new versions that 
configuration files are not compatible, or will create performance 
problems. But do as you wish.

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Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6

2011-07-10 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Mike Cutie and Maia wrote:

 To: 'CentOS mailing list' centos@centos.org
 From: Mike Cutie and Maia msto...@centurylink.net
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6
 
 I am ok with that I have it on a test box that I want to 
 try it on first.yy

Is there a Live CD for Centos 6 yet please?

Keith

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Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6

2011-07-10 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 10.07.2011 23:40, schrieb Keith Roberts:
 On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Mike Cutie and Maia wrote:

 Is there a Live CD for Centos 6 yet please?
 
 Keith

Did you read the release announcement? Probably not.

+++
LiveCD and LiveDVD

LiveCDs and LiveDVDs for i386 and x86_64 will be released within the
next few days. These will bring in the ability to directly install from
the livemedia.

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[CentOS] Translate Centos Release Notes into your own non-English Language

2011-07-10 Thread Always Learning

Centos 6.0 Release Notes are here
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0

Volunteers whose native (or first language) is not English are invited
to translate the Release Notes into their own language.

There are probably other useful translation tasks to make Centos
understandable to people all around the world.

Should the Centos Mailing List diversify into non-English language
versions ? For example, Chinese (which version?) , Spanish, Portuguese,
Russian, Serbian etc. etc. ?

For example: chin...@centos.org



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Re: [CentOS] Show your CentOS Support

2011-07-10 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On 07/09/2011 07:52 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 If you would like one, please send me an email

Still have about 15 un-allocated.. I will be in touch with everyone who 
emailed about the T-Shirts in about 5 - 7 days time, with costs.

It looks like a fair few ( 40 or so ) are heading to the US. And it 
might be a good idea to just ship the lot over to someone who can then 
further distribute locally.

Makes me quite happy that we even had 1 request from Antartica, the 
Argentinian Geological expidition :) Good thing their postal adderess 
isnt Antartica though.

- KB
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KB,

I live in Texas; I'll be happy to help

Greg

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[CentOS] [SOLVED]--Re: centos 6 (what else? :) :)

2011-07-10 Thread fred smith
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:01:14PM -0400, fred smith wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 My thanks to the Centos team for continuing to slave away on C6
 even with all the distractions!!!
 
 Just did a test install on my eeepc 901 (on an external drive, til I'm
 comfortable with it) and find that it doesn't seem to know how to talk
 to the ralink 2860 wireless chipset.
 
 A few months back I did a test install of Scientific Linux 6 and as
 I recall it (I may be mis-remembering) it just worked.
 
 So I enabled EPEL and RPMFUSION but they don't seem to have the
 driver either.
 
 Clues appreciated.
 
 Thanks again to all to work on this!

Oh well. there's nothing like posting a question to have the question
answer itself within about 2 minutes.

Found what I need at elrepo.

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[CentOS] centos 6 (what else? :) :)

2011-07-10 Thread fred smith
Hi all!

My thanks to the Centos team for continuing to slave away on C6
even with all the distractions!!!

Just did a test install on my eeepc 901 (on an external drive, til I'm
comfortable with it) and find that it doesn't seem to know how to talk
to the ralink 2860 wireless chipset.

A few months back I did a test install of Scientific Linux 6 and as
I recall it (I may be mis-remembering) it just worked.

So I enabled EPEL and RPMFUSION but they don't seem to have the
driver either.

Clues appreciated.

Thanks again to all to work on this!


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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/9/11 12:18 PM, Giles Coochey wrote:
 On 09/07/2011 01:06, Les Mikesell wrote:
 Turning off negotiation pretty much guarantees problems if anything changes 
 at
 the other end or you use an unmanaged switch. And the gigabit spec requires
 auto-negotiation.

 Let me make it clear - auto-negotiation only works if auto-negotiation is
 configured on both sides.

Errr, auto-negotiation is normally the default.  So it to be more clear, it 
works unless you break it by changing it only on one side.

  It does not work if one side hard codes the speed and
 duplex. Both sides have to be set for it to negotiate. Agreeing on speed and
 duplex ensures that it will work.

That means both sides have to know about each other, whereas one side is 
networking equipment and the other is often host equipment, managed by 
different 
sets of people.  And there is no need for them to agree/disagree or waste time 
thinking about it at all.  The defaults should work.

 If something is going to change on the remote end without you knowing, or your
 provider is using an unmanaged switch then it's time to change provider :-) -
 they obviously are cheapskates and don't have any change management control on
 their systems.

I'm not talking about 'providers', I'm talking about the people who set up 
network equipment vs. people who manage hosts.  If the people managing the 
network equipment say negotiation needs to be off they are wrong, even if they 
claim to be the authority in the debate.

 Gigabit is different.

No, the default of auto-negotiating  works there too.

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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-10 Thread Ian Forde
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 22:08 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 7/9/11 12:18 PM, Giles Coochey wrote:
  Gigabit is different.
 
 No, the default of auto-negotiating  works there too.
 

In 1000BASE-T, autonegotiation is required, according to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-T

Which, in turn, refers to (click through without username required)
http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.3-2008_section2.pdf
that states (in section 28D.5, part a) that Auto-negotiation in
1000BASE-T is required...

-I

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[CentOS] Installing OS on Flash Drive on Server

2011-07-10 Thread Muhammad Panji
Hi All,
On my gateway server I'm Installing CentOS on a flashdrive. is that a bad
idea? the server keep hang, I can ping the server from the LAN and from the
internet, the internet connection from LAN to internet is OK but another
service is down, ssh, VPN (PPTPD) and another service. Even the console is
unresponsive so I have to reset the server. Last time when I still can do
SSH to server the / drive is mounted read only, when I try to remount rw it
said error write protected but the flash drive itself have no write
protection. I'm wondering is using Flashdrive on server OS is a bad idea?
anyone have similar experience? thank you.
regards,








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[CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on Centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread Philip L Pinto

I just wanted to say Congratulations and thank you to the Centos Team for
all of the work on Centos 6 - I know the last few months have not been easy
- but the real benefit will be that Centos 6 will be as good and as stable
as Centos 5 has been for me and everyone who has been using it for the past
4 years.  It has never a matter of just getting it done - but getting it
done right.  

Thank You
Phil 


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Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on Centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Philip L Pinto
pi...@dpcomputersolutions.com wrote:

 I just wanted to say Congratulations and thank you to the Centos Team for
 all of the work on Centos 6 - I know the last few months have not been easy
 - but the real benefit will be that Centos 6 will be as good and as stable
 as Centos 5 has been for me and everyone who has been using it for the past
 4 years.  It has never a matter of just getting it done - but getting it
 done right.

+1... and thanks. i386 torrent download was very fast (less than an
hour) and I have been seeding for two or three hours now. I'll just
let it go for at least a few days.

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Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on Centos 6

2011-07-10 Thread Luigi Rosa
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Philip L Pinto said the following on 11/07/11 06:11:

 I just wanted to say Congratulations and thank you to the Centos Team for
 all of the work on Centos 6 - 

+1

Thank you guys!


Ciao,
luigi

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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED]--Re: centos 6 (what else? :) :)

2011-07-10 Thread Ned Slider
On 11/07/11 03:28, fred smith wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:01:14PM -0400, fred smith wrote:
 Hi all!

 My thanks to the Centos team for continuing to slave away on C6
 even with all the distractions!!!

 Just did a test install on my eeepc 901 (on an external drive, til I'm
 comfortable with it) and find that it doesn't seem to know how to talk
 to the ralink 2860 wireless chipset.

 A few months back I did a test install of Scientific Linux 6 and as
 I recall it (I may be mis-remembering) it just worked.

 So I enabled EPEL and RPMFUSION but they don't seem to have the
 driver either.

 Clues appreciated.

 Thanks again to all to work on this!

 Oh well. there's nothing like posting a question to have the question
 answer itself within about 2 minutes.

 Found what I need at elrepo.


Glad you got it working.

Yes, for the benefit of others, you needed to install the driver and 
associated firmware which are available from elrepo.org:

http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-rt2860sta
http://elrepo.org/tiki/rt2860-firmware

Hope that helps (others).

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