Re: [CentOS-es] MIgrar Centos 5.5 a 6

2011-07-23 Thread troxlinux
El día 23 de julio de 2011 19:13, Ernesto Pérez Estévez
cen...@nuestroserver.com escribió:
 On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 20:59 -0400, Mario Soto Cordones wrote:
 Hola lista, estoy tratando de buscar como migrar de centos 5.5 a 6 y no
 encuentro ningun howto, alguien lo ha hecho

 sí, es simple, lo hablamos el otro día, la variante más adecuada es
 esta:
 1- respaldas TODA la información del centos-5
 2- reinstalas el servidor con centos-6
 3- vuelves a poner y reconfigurar todo en centos-6

 y listo! Es facilito, lo he hecho en varios servidores. Pero porque nos
 gusta pasar trabajo, recuerda que si está fucnionando en centos-5 ahi le
 puedes dejar, pues tendrá soporte hasta el 2014, no es obligado migrar.
 La política debería ser: mantén en el centos-5 lo que ya está y lo nuevo
 que venga en centos-6
 saludos
 epe

toda la razon Epe , ademas en centos 6 falta mucha paqueteria q meter
para complicarse! , espera q madure un poco mas.

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[CentOS-es] Unsort en centos

2011-07-23 Thread troxlinux
Slds lista , alguien a instalado unsort en centos 5.x , Quiero
instalarlo pero no encuentro como!

alguna idea?

sldss

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Re: [CentOS] VLAN's

2011-07-23 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, July 22, 2011 10:55 PM, Jennifer Botten wrote:
 Hi Julio,

 -A FORWARD -i eth2.2 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 10.30.4.28 -p udp -j ACCEPT

 -A FORWARD -i eth2.2 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 192.168.0.0/24 -p tcp -j ACCEPT

 -A FORWARD -i eth1 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 192.168.1.0/24 -p tcp -j ACCEPT

 -A FORWARD -i eth3 -s 10.30.4.28 -o eth2.2 -p udp -j ACCEPT

 -A POSTROUTING -m helper --helper sip -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED

dumb question but do you have ip forwarding enabled?
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-23 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair,
5.4.4.4 stephen.jamieson@navy.mil wrote:

 Those options are no longer supported in GDM. I think that they were
 removed with GDM 2.24 (at the latest, probably 2.22) and C6 is running
 GDM 2.30.

 That is unfortunate... I suppose I will just have to ignore this issue
 then.

 in /etc/gdm/custom.conf to override the -nolisten tcp but I have
 no idea about -br -audit 4 -s 15.

 Thanks for your help.  I really wish someone know where I could edit
 those parameters.

You're welcome. I've just tried to poke around and find out how but
didn't get anywhere...
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-23 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
 On Friday, July 22, 2011 02:10:22 PM Tom H wrote:

 You can use sudo -u gdm gconftool-2
 /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --set --type=boolean true
 because the gdm user controls the login screen but the above works
 too because it makes that setting default for all users. You can also
 make it mandatory with gconftool-2 --config-source
 xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory
 /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --set --type=boolean true.

 Thanks for the full syntax; even though this is one of the first things
 I do on all new installs.

 Since my normal use machine runs KDE, and I use KDM on it, it's
 not something that I have to deal with on my own box

You're welcome. I've given up on GNOME (even Unity) for this and other reasons.

KDE just feels too alien so I'm using LXDE or Fluxbox...
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Re: [CentOS] VLAN's

2011-07-23 Thread Kristopher Kane
 this sort of thing really belongs on an iproute2/netfilter mail list,
 however, as its not at all centos specific.


So John, exactly what is CentOS specific?  Should I only read the emails
with release speculation?

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[CentOS] VLC package(s) for C6 ?

2011-07-23 Thread fred smith
Hi listees!

Just installed C6 (more or less) permanently on my eeepc.

I've enabled rpmfusion non-free, rpmfusion free, elrepo, and epel,

prior to this point I've been running fedora on it (f10 thru f14)
and have always found VLC at rpmfusion. 

(but finally RHEL/Centos have become modern enough to support the
eeepc's funky hardware, so I'm switching back--tired of the version
churn of Fedora.)

but RpmFusion does not seem to have packaged VLC for EL6, nor have epel
or elrepo,

Anyone know where to find such packages?

thanks!

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[CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread Keith Roberts
Greetings all.

I just enabled all repos on my system, to enable me to find 
a particular package. This is the first time I have noticed 
all the Centos repos  5.6 being listed.

Is this a new feature, to include all repos pre 5.6 now?

Here's the output of the aforementioned yum command - sorry 
it's a little bit long:

[root@karsites ~]# yum --enablerepo '*' --disablerepo 
'c5-media' info textpattern
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, filter-data, keys, list-data, 
priorities
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * addons: mirror.netrino.co.uk
  * base: centos.mirror.evertje.net
  * centosplus: mirror.netrino.co.uk
  * contrib: centos.mirror.evertje.net
  * epel: mirrors.coreix.net
  * epel-debuginfo: mirrors.coreix.net
  * epel-source: mirrors.coreix.net
  * epel-testing: mirrors.coreix.net
  * epel-testing-debuginfo: mirrors.coreix.net
  * epel-testing-source: mirrors.coreix.net
  * extras: centos.mirror.evertje.net
  * remi: iut-info.univ-reims.fr
  * rpmforge: apt.sw.be
  * rpmforge-extras: apt.sw.be
  * rpmforge-testing: apt.sw.be
  * updates: mirror.netrino.co.uk
C5.0-base| 1.1 
kB 00:00
C5.0-base/primary| 798 
kB 00:01
C5.0-base 
2334/2334
C5.0-centosplus  |  951 
B 00:00
C5.0-centosplus/primary  |  90 
kB 00:00
C5.0-centosplus 
134/134
C5.0-extras  | 1.1 
kB 00:00
C5.0-extras/primary  |  77 
kB 00:00
C5.0-extras 
302/302
C5.0-updates |  951 
B 00:00
C5.0-updates/primary | 352 
kB 00:00
C5.0-updates 
764/764
C5.1-base| 1.1 
kB 00:00
C5.1-base/primary| 834 
kB 00:01
C5.1-base 
2400/2400
C5.1-centosplus  |  951 
B 00:00
C5.1-centosplus/primary  |  73 
kB 00:00
C5.1-centosplus 
174/174
C5.1-extras  | 1.1 
kB 00:00
C5.1-extras/primary  | 113 
kB 00:00
C5.1-extras 
421/421
C5.1-updates |  951 
B 00:00
C5.1-updates/primary | 278 
kB 00:00
C5.1-updates 
502/502
C5.2-base| 1.1 
kB 00:00
C5.2-base/primary| 853 
kB 00:01
C5.2-base 
2458/2458
C5.2-centosplus  |  951 
B 00:00
C5.2-centosplus/primary  |  72 
kB 00:00
C5.2-centosplus 
119/119
C5.2-extras  | 1.1 
kB 00:00
C5.2-extras/primary  |  90 
kB 00:00
C5.2-extras 
298/298
C5.2-updates |  951 
B 00:00
C5.2-updates/primary | 374 
kB 00:00
C5.2-updates 
805/805
C5.3-base| 1.1 
kB 00:00
C5.3-base/primary| 878 
kB 00:01
C5.3-base 
2508/2508
C5.3-centosplus  |  951 
B 00:00
C5.3-centosplus/primary  | 115 
kB 00:00
C5.3-centosplus 
151/151
C5.3-extras  | 1.1 
kB 00:00
C5.3-extras/primary  | 107 
kB 00:00
C5.3-extras 
324/324
C5.3-updates |  951 
B 00:00
C5.3-updates/primary | 353 
kB 00:00
C5.3-updates 
528/528
C5.4-base| 2.1 
kB 00:00
C5.4-base/primary_db | 1.6 
MB 00:02
C5.4-centosplus  | 1.9 
kB 00:00
C5.4-centosplus/primary_db   | 184 
kB 00:00
C5.4-extras  | 2.1 
kB 00:00
C5.4-extras/primary_db   | 180 
kB 00:00
C5.4-updates | 1.9 
kB 00:00
C5.4-updates/primary_db  | 616 
kB 00:00
C5.5-base| 2.1 
kB 00:00
C5.5-base/primary_db | 1.6 
MB 00:03
C5.5-centosplus  | 1.9 
kB 00:00
C5.5-centosplus/primary_db   | 127 
kB 00:00
C5.5-extras  | 2.1 
kB 00:00
C5.5-extras/primary_db   | 183 
kB 00:00
C5.5-updates | 1.9 
kB 00:00
C5.5-updates/primary_db  | 911 
kB 00:01
addons  

Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote:
 Greetings all.
 
 I just enabled all repos on my system, to enable me to find 
 a particular package. This is the first time I have noticed 
 all the Centos repos  5.6 being listed.
 
 Is this a new feature, to include all repos pre 5.6 now?
 
 Here's the output of the aforementioned yum command - sorry 
 it's a little bit long:
 
 [root@karsites ~]# yum --enablerepo '*' --disablerepo 
 'c5-media' info textpattern
 Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, filter-data, keys, list-data, 
 priorities
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
   * addons: mirror.netrino.co.uk
   * base: centos.mirror.evertje.net
   * centosplus: mirror.netrino.co.uk
   * contrib: centos.mirror.evertje.net
   * epel: mirrors.coreix.net
   * epel-debuginfo: mirrors.coreix.net
   * epel-source: mirrors.coreix.net
   * epel-testing: mirrors.coreix.net
   * epel-testing-debuginfo: mirrors.coreix.net
   * epel-testing-source: mirrors.coreix.net
   * extras: centos.mirror.evertje.net
   * remi: iut-info.univ-reims.fr
   * rpmforge: apt.sw.be
   * rpmforge-extras: apt.sw.be
   * rpmforge-testing: apt.sw.be
   * updates: mirror.netrino.co.uk
 C5.0-base| 1.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.0-base/primary| 798 
 kB 00:01
 C5.0-base 
 2334/2334
 C5.0-centosplus  |  951 
 B 00:00
 C5.0-centosplus/primary  |  90 
 kB 00:00
 C5.0-centosplus 
 134/134
 C5.0-extras  | 1.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.0-extras/primary  |  77 
 kB 00:00
 C5.0-extras 
 302/302
 C5.0-updates |  951 
 B 00:00
 C5.0-updates/primary | 352 
 kB 00:00
 C5.0-updates 
 764/764
 C5.1-base| 1.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.1-base/primary| 834 
 kB 00:01
 C5.1-base 
 2400/2400
 C5.1-centosplus  |  951 
 B 00:00
 C5.1-centosplus/primary  |  73 
 kB 00:00
 C5.1-centosplus 
 174/174
 C5.1-extras  | 1.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.1-extras/primary  | 113 
 kB 00:00
 C5.1-extras 
 421/421
 C5.1-updates |  951 
 B 00:00
 C5.1-updates/primary | 278 
 kB 00:00
 C5.1-updates 
 502/502
 C5.2-base| 1.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.2-base/primary| 853 
 kB 00:01
 C5.2-base 
 2458/2458
 C5.2-centosplus  |  951 
 B 00:00
 C5.2-centosplus/primary  |  72 
 kB 00:00
 C5.2-centosplus 
 119/119
 C5.2-extras  | 1.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.2-extras/primary  |  90 
 kB 00:00
 C5.2-extras 
 298/298
 C5.2-updates |  951 
 B 00:00
 C5.2-updates/primary | 374 
 kB 00:00
 C5.2-updates 
 805/805
 C5.3-base| 1.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.3-base/primary| 878 
 kB 00:01
 C5.3-base 
 2508/2508
 C5.3-centosplus  |  951 
 B 00:00
 C5.3-centosplus/primary  | 115 
 kB 00:00
 C5.3-centosplus 
 151/151
 C5.3-extras  | 1.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.3-extras/primary  | 107 
 kB 00:00
 C5.3-extras 
 324/324
 C5.3-updates |  951 
 B 00:00
 C5.3-updates/primary | 353 
 kB 00:00
 C5.3-updates 
 528/528
 C5.4-base| 2.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.4-base/primary_db | 1.6 
 MB 00:02
 C5.4-centosplus  | 1.9 
 kB 00:00
 C5.4-centosplus/primary_db   | 184 
 kB 00:00
 C5.4-extras  | 2.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.4-extras/primary_db   | 180 
 kB 00:00
 C5.4-updates | 1.9 
 kB 00:00
 C5.4-updates/primary_db  | 616 
 kB 00:00
 C5.5-base| 2.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.5-base/primary_db | 1.6 
 MB 00:03
 C5.5-centosplus  | 1.9 
 kB 00:00
 C5.5-centosplus/primary_db   | 127 
 kB 00:00
 C5.5-extras  | 2.1 
 kB 00:00
 C5.5-extras/primary_db   | 183 
 kB 00:00
 C5.5-updates

Re: [CentOS] VLAN's

2011-07-23 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/23/11 10:22 AM, Kristopher Kane wrote:

  this sort of thing really belongs on an iproute2/netfilter mail list,
  however, as its not at all centos specific.
 

 So John, exactly what is CentOS specific?  Should I only read the 
 emails with release speculation?


things related to the packaging, repos.   at least stuff thats EL3/4/5/6 
related.

otherwise, the mission creep on this list turns it into a free for all.

hey I'm having problems with my set-top tv box, and it runs linux
inside, and centos is linux, can you guys ?


no, I don't think so.

now, in reference to the OP's issues, a centos/el specific question 
might be how to package iptables commands within the standard EL /etc 
tree and work with the existing firewall scripts, or where to put ip 
rule/route commands (where SHOULD you put those, anyways?  I dunno.  
mine end up in /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall which is invoked from rc.local and 
I *know* thats sloppy as heck).


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Re: [CentOS] VLAN's

2011-07-23 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:02 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 On 07/23/11 10:22 AM, Kristopher Kane wrote:

  this sort of thing really belongs on an iproute2/netfilter mail list,
  however, as its not at all centos specific.

 So John, exactly what is CentOS specific?  Should I only read the
 emails with release speculation?

 things related to the packaging, repos.   at least stuff thats EL3/4/5/6
 related.

 otherwise, the mission creep on this list turns it into a free for all.

    hey I'm having problems with my set-top tv box, and it runs linux
    inside, and centos is linux, can you guys ?

 no, I don't think so.

 now, in reference to the OP's issues, a centos/el specific question
 might be how to package iptables commands within the standard EL /etc
 tree and work with the existing firewall scripts, or where to put ip
 rule/route commands (where SHOULD you put those, anyways?  I dunno.
 mine end up in /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall which is invoked from rc.local and
 I *know* thats sloppy as heck).

Even after this explanation I don't understand your objection to
helping someone with a firewall and routing issue on a CentOS box. You
might have a point if the executables didn't come from packages in the
canonical CentOS repo.
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Re: [CentOS] VLAN's

2011-07-23 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/23/11 12:09 PM, Tom H wrote:
 Even after this explanation I don't understand your objection to
 helping someone with a firewall and routing issue on a CentOS box. You
 might have a point if the executables didn't come from packages in the
 canonical CentOS repo.

I'm writing my doctoral thesis on pygmy rhino genetic marker traits, I 
am using LibreOffice on CentOS.   Should I put the 1 or 2 pages of 
abstract before or after my table of contents.



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Re: [CentOS] VLC package(s) for C6 ?

2011-07-23 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
fred smith wrote:
 Hi listees!
 
 Just installed C6 (more or less) permanently on my eeepc.
 
 I've enabled rpmfusion non-free, rpmfusion free, elrepo, and epel,
 
 prior to this point I've been running fedora on it (f10 thru f14)
 and have always found VLC at rpmfusion. 
 
 (but finally RHEL/Centos have become modern enough to support the
 eeepc's funky hardware, so I'm switching back--tired of the version
 churn of Fedora.)
 
 but RpmFusion does not seem to have packaged VLC for EL6, nor have epel
 or elrepo,
 
 Anyone know where to find such packages?
 
 thanks!
 
 Fred

RepoForge (ex RpmForge) and aTrpms both have VLC. Repoforge is now 
friendly to Base repo (except for repoforge-extras)

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Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 23.7.2011 21.58, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 I just enabled all repos on my system, to enable me to find
  a particular package. This is the first time I have noticed
  all the Centos repos  5.6 being listed.

  Is this a new feature, to include all repos pre 5.6 now?


I have these repos listed in a separate file in /etc/yum.repos.d. The 
file is called CentOS-Vault.repo. I think this appeared automatically 
with yum update.

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Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 08:58:55PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
  
 Please check how many CentOS-Base files you have in /etc/yum.repos.d/ 
 Maybe old are not deleted, just disabled.

269 lines of noise removed.

Can you PLEASE trim your replies?  There is absolutely no reason to not
remove unnecessary content except laziness.

As per 5.6 legacy releases of the 5 family have their content at
vault.centos.org available as yum repos for those that, for whatever
reason, are locked into the old versions so they have an easier way to
install legacy components.  The controlling .repo file can be removed if 
the legacy versions are not wanted.




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Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John R. Dennison wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 08:58:55PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Please check how many CentOS-Base files you have in /etc/yum.repos.d/ 
 Maybe old are not deleted, just disabled.
 
 269 lines of noise removed.
 
 Can you PLEASE trim your replies?  There is absolutely no reason to not
 remove unnecessary content except laziness.

Actually I was having breakfast at 9 PM, and run fast through the mail. 
   I did not even read the whole mail, just first 20-30 lines, never 
realized how much Keith put in. Not a excuse of course. I can only 
apologize, and I am going to seriously reduce the number of replies, if 
  all.

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Re: [CentOS] VLAN's

2011-07-23 Thread Always Learning

On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 12:26 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 07/23/11 12:09 PM, Tom H wrote:
  Even after this explanation I don't understand your objection to
  helping someone with a firewall and routing issue on a CentOS box. You
  might have a point if the executables didn't come from packages in the
  canonical CentOS repo.

 I'm writing my doctoral thesis on pygmy rhino genetic marker traits, I 
 am using LibreOffice on CentOS.   Should I put the 1 or 2 pages of 
 abstract before or after my table of contents.


If it is your second or fourth attempt then ensure the abstract exceeds
2 pages otherwise it should be a single page if possible but certainly
no more that an absolute maximum of 2 pages.

Do not forget to include the acknowledge at the bottom of each page that
you are using LibreOffice and, of course, the correct Centos version
which you can obtain by typing uname -a into a terminal window.

Some versions of Centos default to bad spellings, i.e. they use the
broken version of English commonly known as 'American English but if you
change your English configuration by typing, into a terminal window,
Centos = real english, your spell checker should give you the correct
results. Please note that syntax is scheduled to change in Centos 6.1
and may affect all versions of M$ Windoze 8, Apple Mac Snowplough and
FreeBSD versions 216 and 217. Solaris version 13 has already changed to
use the revised syntax.

Glad I could help you.
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Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, John R. Dennison wrote:

 To: centos@centos.org
 From: John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos  5.6 listed?
 
 On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 08:58:55PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 Please check how many CentOS-Base files you have in /etc/yum.repos.d/
 Maybe old are not deleted, just disabled.

 269 lines of noise removed.

 Can you PLEASE trim your replies?  There is absolutely no reason to not
 remove unnecessary content except laziness.

 As per 5.6 legacy releases of the 5 family have their content at
 vault.centos.org available as yum repos for those that, for whatever
 reason, are locked into the old versions so they have an easier way to
 install legacy components.  The controlling .repo file can be removed if
 the legacy versions are not wanted.

OK. Thanks for your replies John and everyone else.

I might move that repo file to a spare directory, so yum 
does not pick it up again.

Kind Regards,

Keith

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Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, Jussi Hirvi wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: Jussi Hirvi listmem...@greenspot.fi
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos  5.6 listed?
 
 On 23.7.2011 21.58, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 I just enabled all repos on my system, to enable me to find
  a particular package. This is the first time I have noticed
  all the Centos repos  5.6 being listed.

  Is this a new feature, to include all repos pre 5.6 now?


 I have these repos listed in a separate file in /etc/yum.repos.d. The
 file is called CentOS-Vault.repo. I think this appeared automatically
 with yum update.

OK. Thanks for pointing that out Jussi. John gave the reason 
for this change.

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Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:49:45PM +0100, Keith Roberts wrote:
 
 I might move that repo file to a spare directory, so yum 
 does not pick it up again.

You can leave it in /etc/yum.repos.d if you'd like, just rename it
so that it does not end in .repo.




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Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos 5.6 listed?

2011-07-23 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, John R. Dennison wrote:

 To: centos@centos.org
 From: John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Why are all repos  5.6 listed?
 
 On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:49:45PM +0100, Keith Roberts wrote:

 I might move that repo file to a spare directory, so yum
 does not pick it up again.

 You can leave it in /etc/yum.repos.d if you'd like, just rename it
 so that it does not end in .repo.

I will do one or the other John.

Regards,

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[CentOS] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0

2011-07-23 Thread Thomas Dukes
Help!

Just ran the installation DVD but there is no option to 'upgrade'. Looked at
the RHEL docs,
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installati
on_Guide/ch-guimode-x86.html#id4594292 referenced off the CentOS Release
notes but the CentOS installation doesn't offer the 'upgrade'.

I use to be able to upgrade by doing a 'yum update'. That doesn't work
either.

Guess I'm stuck with 5.6 as I an not about to install a new version and have
to rebuild all non-rpm packages from scratch. This is worse than Microsoft!!

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0

2011-07-23 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Thomas Dukes tdu...@sc.rr.com wrote:

 Help!

 Just ran the installation DVD but there is no option to 'upgrade'. Looked
 at
 the RHEL docs,

 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installati
 on_Guide/ch-guimode-x86.html#id4594292 referenced off the CentOS Release
 notes but the CentOS installation doesn't offer the 'upgrade'.

 I use to be able to upgrade by doing a 'yum update'. That doesn't work
 either.

 Guess I'm stuck with 5.6 as I an not about to install a new version and
 have
 to rebuild all non-rpm packages from scratch. This is worse than
 Microsoft!!


Red Hat does not support upgrades between major versions (doesn't
necessarily mean it's not possible)
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ch-upgrade-x86.html
http://linsec.ca/blog/2011/02/23/my-adventure-upgrading-rhel5-to-rhel6/

Microsoft Windows and Red Hat Linux have a very different release strategies
and version numbers. You can read more about the support lifecycle here:
https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/

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[CentOS] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0

2011-07-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, Thomas Dukes wrote:

 I use to be able to upgrade by doing a 'yum update'. That doesn't work
 either.

A low skill user was never able to go from 2.1 to 3, nor 3 to 
4, nor 4 to 5, and an a minimally skilled will not be able 
to go from 5 to 6.  This is the policy of the upstream, and 
a sensible one, because of invasive changes each major 
release represents.  Functionally, each major is a new 
product.

That said, the CentOS wiki has an UNSUPPORTED method for media 
based 'upgradeany' transitions of the type you mention.  It IS 
UNSUPPORTED, because it can break systems.  For that reason, I 
specifically added warnings to that article, to take and test 
backups before trying that path

 Guess I'm stuck with 5.6 as I an not about to install a new version and have
 to rebuild all non-rpm packages from scratch. This is worse than Microsoft!!

Much worse -- you could not steal binaries and license keys 
from CentOS because we give them away for free

CentOS ships no non-RPM packaged packages -- look to whoever 
put those packages on your box without using the packaging 
system if you feel the need to blame someone

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0

2011-07-23 Thread Thomas Dukes
 


  _  

From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Giovanni Tirloni
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 6:54 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0


On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Thomas Dukes tdu...@sc.rr.com wrote:


Help!

Just ran the installation DVD but there is no option to 'upgrade'. Looked at
the RHEL docs,
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installati
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installat
i%0Aon_Guide/ch-guimode-x86.html#id4594292 
on_Guide/ch-guimode-x86.html#id4594292 referenced off the CentOS Release
notes but the CentOS installation doesn't offer the 'upgrade'.

I use to be able to upgrade by doing a 'yum update'. That doesn't work
either.

Guess I'm stuck with 5.6 as I an not about to install a new version and have
to rebuild all non-rpm packages from scratch. This is worse than Microsoft!!



Red Hat does not support upgrades between major versions (doesn't
necessarily mean it's not possible)
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installati
on_Guide/ch-upgrade-x86.html
http://linsec.ca/blog/2011/02/23/my-adventure-upgrading-rhel5-to-rhel6/ 
 
Since when?? I started with slackware 1.0 on a pentinum 1 system from
VaResearch back in the mid 90's, change to Redat 2.0, then Fedora, then to
Whitebox, then CentOS.. Never had a problem upgrading on an rpm based
system.

Microsoft Windows and Red Hat Linux have a very different release strategies
and version numbers. You can read more about the support lifecycle here:
https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0

2011-07-23 Thread Thomas Dukes
When I say non-rpm, I mean source packages I compiled such as zoneminder. 

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of R P Herrold
 Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 7:36 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: [CentOS] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0
 
 On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, Thomas Dukes wrote:
 
  I use to be able to upgrade by doing a 'yum update'. That 
 doesn't work 
  either.
 
 A low skill user was never able to go from 2.1 to 3, nor 3 to 
 4, nor 4 to 5, and an a minimally skilled will not be able to 
 go from 5 to 6.  This is the policy of the upstream, and a 
 sensible one, because of invasive changes each major release 
 represents.  Functionally, each major is a new product.
 
 That said, the CentOS wiki has an UNSUPPORTED method for 
 media based 'upgradeany' transitions of the type you mention. 
  It IS UNSUPPORTED, because it can break systems.  For that 
 reason, I specifically added warnings to that article, to 
 take and test backups before trying that path
 
  Guess I'm stuck with 5.6 as I an not about to install a new version 
  and have to rebuild all non-rpm packages from scratch. This 
 is worse than Microsoft!!
 
 Much worse -- you could not steal binaries and license keys 
 from CentOS because we give them away for free
 
 CentOS ships no non-RPM packaged packages -- look to whoever 
 put those packages on your box without using the packaging 
 system if you feel the need to blame someone
 
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Re: [CentOS] VLC package(s) for C6 ?

2011-07-23 Thread fred smith
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:31:06PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 fred smith wrote:
  Hi listees!
  
  Just installed C6 (more or less) permanently on my eeepc.
  
  I've enabled rpmfusion non-free, rpmfusion free, elrepo, and epel,
  
  prior to this point I've been running fedora on it (f10 thru f14)
  and have always found VLC at rpmfusion. 
  
  (but finally RHEL/Centos have become modern enough to support the
  eeepc's funky hardware, so I'm switching back--tired of the version
  churn of Fedora.)
  
  but RpmFusion does not seem to have packaged VLC for EL6, nor have epel
  or elrepo,
  
  Anyone know where to find such packages?
  
  thanks!
  
  Fred
 
 RepoForge (ex RpmForge) and aTrpms both have VLC. Repoforge is now 
 friendly to Base repo (except for repoforge-extras)

thanks, I'll go take a look.

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0

2011-07-23 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 24.07.2011 02:00, schrieb Thomas Dukes:

 When I say non-rpm, I mean source packages I compiled such as zoneminder. 

And even *if* you would be able to upgrade from CentOS 5.x to 6 -
technically and by personal skills - what makes you think that your self
compiled software would not completely fail, just because libraries change?

If you would have gone the proper way by using rpms, or where not
available by building your own rpms, things would be no drama for you
when doing a fresh install of CentOS 6, because you could again install
additional software from 3rd party repositories or you could just
rebuild and install your own rpms.

You are barking up the wrong tree.

Alexander

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Re: [CentOS] centos] Upgrading from CentOS 5.6 to 6.0

2011-07-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, Thomas Dukes wrote:

 When I say non-rpm, I mean source packages I compiled such as zoneminder.

 CentOS ships no non-RPM packaged packages -- look to whoever
 put those packages on your box without using the packaging
 system if you feel the need to blame someone

[clean up the trimming and leave the top post as it was]

and so the person you are angry at for not taking the time to 
do the packaging, to have a SRPM that may be rebuilt, is ...
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