[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 i386 dstat FASTTRACK Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1450 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1450.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
833fc074f1071fe079c35fffcac78b2d  dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.noarch.rpm

Source:
e9843c235ab9e25721ac3620a12c3ceb  dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 x86_64 dstat FASTTRACK Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1450 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1450.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
833fc074f1071fe079c35fffcac78b2d  dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.noarch.rpm

Source:
e9843c235ab9e25721ac3620a12c3ceb  dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 i386 perl-XML-SAX FASTTRACK Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1446 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1446.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
47eeab4c308fbf62d697aa7130cad9a4  perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.noarch.rpm

Source:
87dceb01f600717c787f9bc069d5bac9  perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 x86_64 perl-XML-SAX FASTTRACK Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1446 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1446.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
47eeab4c308fbf62d697aa7130cad9a4  perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.noarch.rpm

Source:
87dceb01f600717c787f9bc069d5bac9  perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1449 CentOS 5 x86_64 tar FASTTRACK Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1449 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1449.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
e087af8462ab1d1a7ae1a2ec130d617e  tar-1.15.1-31.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
a44e2798260d52075de4d67456ca228f  tar-1.15.1-31.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1449 CentOS 5 i386 tar FASTTRACK Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1449 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1449.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
9e218c0410253f1d8a4d1e6db18bd010  tar-1.15.1-31.el5.i386.rpm

Source:
a44e2798260d52075de4d67456ca228f  tar-1.15.1-31.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1451 CentOS 5 x86_64 openmotif FASTTRACK Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1451 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1451.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
d13b160627eaa82770bf5faad2de6b69  openmotif-2.3.1-6.el5.i386.rpm
2840220cf9f16758efb2b11662156bc9  openmotif-2.3.1-6.el5.x86_64.rpm
c2ae896340d5f10dd2089d7fa0292117  openmotif-devel-2.3.1-6.el5.i386.rpm
f982a1dd883f4d05de6300a33aa4c4a9  openmotif-devel-2.3.1-6.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
c1bb9d6a2f99ce22f9dd4a927a495309  openmotif-2.3.1-6.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1448 CentOS 5 x86_64 udev Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1448 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1448.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
52331ac5b121d39f5106b6ace8e8a447  libvolume_id-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm
c8a5a5509ae202817ada44f7a9ac1a05  libvolume_id-095-14.27.el5_7.1.x86_64.rpm
a7259d48c1a67b59db82c55bc80d64ae  libvolume_id-devel-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm
1fa6306c7c3cd4fed9fd151eb2071929  
libvolume_id-devel-095-14.27.el5_7.1.x86_64.rpm
4692a69522466f4693a12939a8b9b1b6  udev-095-14.27.el5_7.1.x86_64.rpm

Source:
1b2fea84b48f505bcb6f1678589cd2ab  udev-095-14.27.el5_7.1.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1448 CentOS 5 i386 udev Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1448 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1448.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
52331ac5b121d39f5106b6ace8e8a447  libvolume_id-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm
a7259d48c1a67b59db82c55bc80d64ae  libvolume_id-devel-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm
c7ca011fa7673bec61ad6ef44eee3dcf  udev-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm

Source:
1b2fea84b48f505bcb6f1678589cd2ab  udev-095-14.27.el5_7.1.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1447 CentOS 5 i386 postgresql Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1447 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1447.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
b5514d15534a92a124cfaa0c2db0c5f2  postgresql-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
97d5081c03bea73881d0d0854a9432a1  postgresql-contrib-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
24a87670ce35793b4b9bac6259481e38  postgresql-devel-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
c137c51f2245fb3039a6b15ae1e7b84f  postgresql-docs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
1565023f3fcc894c998aa3117ffb9540  postgresql-libs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
ed2f6ee0c2149f88004112f438688500  postgresql-pl-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
2b13c2f5eb0506e916d885a7b70d61b3  postgresql-python-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
8f097242d07b54af6d3995f531d96522  postgresql-server-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
512d8d28ece6cecf8164ba242d9dba92  postgresql-tcl-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
edb929fc2f914e7c6d6331b5b5faa89d  postgresql-test-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm

Source:
66e37d6821a0aadf091a740a6031f0f0  postgresql-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1447 CentOS 5 x86_64 postgresql Update

2011-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1447 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1447.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
87cb06380e2f4fec07092215b3954f67  postgresql-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
81f8d06838439ec6e0aa17e5ca72aead  postgresql-contrib-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
24a87670ce35793b4b9bac6259481e38  postgresql-devel-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
84b7d50ccc6a7efb5f0808c735bfae34  postgresql-devel-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
c1dd4654ed677d6fce860743c47be86d  postgresql-docs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
1565023f3fcc894c998aa3117ffb9540  postgresql-libs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm
1cef8ff3138f65eef19e9f27e795d57f  postgresql-libs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
668fa8938832e8cf280f6a38c2fb6bc1  postgresql-pl-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
a625fda5c6968ee3a3b8706c1bb8fb5d  postgresql-python-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
ff0b63e283098f936e5e05ec3a5c906d  postgresql-server-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
4c2d8f66ef3ebae2851c2b6bc96f  postgresql-tcl-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm
66da6094b685694cb35c757ff11e06aa  postgresql-test-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm

Source:
66e37d6821a0aadf091a740a6031f0f0  postgresql-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.src.rpm


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 installation problem on i7 machine

2011-11-14 Thread c sawyer
Thanks, Rajagopal

Can't see any graphics driver for RHEL-anything on the HP support site.  No 
worries - the kmod from elRepo works just fine for me

cheers,

- cal



Greetings,
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajsand at 
gmail.com wrote: 


Greetings,  

AFAIK, HP Website does provide drivers for RHEL on its servers. Haven't 
checked if it is available for RHEL6 though. 

http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/servers/linux/hplinuxcert.html  


further 
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?lang=encc=usprodNameId=3884320taskId=135prodTypeId=15351prodSeriesId=3884319lang=encc=us
 


This could be even better: 
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=encc=usprodNameId=3884320prodTypeId=15351prodSeriesId=3884319swLang=8taskId=135swEnvOID=4103
 HTH 


BTW, Hurray! I found Centos also listed as supported (in some models, I 
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Re: [CentOS] binding additional IP addresses to centos6 on one interface

2011-11-14 Thread nux
Jonathan Vomacka writes:

 Reindl,
 
 A block of 10 IPV4 is not a lot, and they will all eventually be used. 
 My question is, my server IP is 66.80.x.x and my additional IPS are in 
 the 50.7.x.x range using a netmask of 255.255.255.248.
 
 Can the netmask be written in the range file like it is in the ifcfg-eth0:0?

Reindl,

Please do not top post.

255.255.255.248 gives you a total of 8 IPs, not 10, of which usually you 
loose 3 for the network, broadcast and gw addresses.
You can assign those 5 in a range file without problems, you can also 
specify the netmask like in a normal cfg file. It shouldn't be needed to 
specify other settings.

Where I work we'd route the additional subnet through the IP you already 
have on the server, thus allowing you to allocate _all_ 8 IPs as a range 
on the loopback interface with a /32 netmask. See if your ISP can do this 
for you.

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Re: [CentOS] binding additional IP addresses to centos6 on one interface

2011-11-14 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 14.11.2011 12:03, schrieb n...@li.nux.ro:
 Jonathan Vomacka writes:
 
 Reindl,

 A block of 10 IPV4 is not a lot, and they will all eventually be used. 
 My question is, my server IP is 66.80.x.x and my additional IPS are in 
 the 50.7.x.x range using a netmask of 255.255.255.248.

 Can the netmask be written in the range file like it is in the ifcfg-eth0:0?
 
 Reindl,
 
 Please do not top post

maybe you should open your eyes or learn to use you reply button which knows
better who wrote what and do not quote my name to anything i have not written

my only reply to this thread was at 0:35 and there was no top-post




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[CentOS] No more sound since gfx card update

2011-11-14 Thread lhecking

 Our workstation vendor EOL'd the gfx card we were buying and replaced it
 with a different model. With the new card, sound is no longer working.

 Previous system:

# lspci |grep -i audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio 
Controller
# aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, 
Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
# 

 New system:

# lspci |grep -i aud
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio 
Controller
02:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller 
(rev a1)
# aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned 
error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned 
error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or 
directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2184:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
aplay: main:583: audio open error: No such file or directory
# 

 Is it possible to disable the NVidia sound device and revert to system
 board sound? The card is a Quadro 600 with DVI and DisplayPort adapters,
 and the systems are running CentOS5.4.

 Alternatively, is there a driver?

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[CentOS] After Latest Update...

2011-11-14 Thread Phil Savoie
Hi All,

Using the following to ssh into my home to get mail, I suddenly get this:

ssh  -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -o ServerAliveInterval=240 -L
110:192.168.100.108:110 phil@FQDN
phil@FQDN's password:
bind: Cannot assign requested address 
Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:29 2011 from FQDN

I have never seen what I am indicating before and am wondering why this
would suddenly appear?

Thank you,

Phil
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Re: [CentOS] After Latest Update...

2011-11-14 Thread Giles Coochey
On Mon, November 14, 2011 13:39, Phil Savoie wrote:
 Hi All,

 Using the following to ssh into my home to get mail, I suddenly get this:

 ssh  -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -o ServerAliveInterval=240 -L
 110:192.168.100.108:110 phil@FQDN
 phil@FQDN's password:
 bind: Cannot assign requested address 
 Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:29 2011 from FQDN

 I have never seen what I am indicating before and am wondering why this
 would suddenly appear?

Do you have something listening on localhost:110 ?



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Re: [CentOS] After Latest Update...

2011-11-14 Thread Rob Kampen

Phil Savoie wrote:

Hi All,

Using the following to ssh into my home to get mail, I suddenly get this:

ssh  -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -o ServerAliveInterval=240 -L
110:192.168.100.108:110 phil@FQDN
phil@FQDN's password:
bind: Cannot assign requested address 
Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:29 2011 from FQDN

I have never seen what I am indicating before and am wondering why this
would suddenly appear?
  

I thought only root can perform action ports below 1024?

Thank you,

Phil
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Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 09:47 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:53 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
  On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
   Cyrus is incredibly reliable, stable and fast.  And the latest 2.4.x
   series closes numerous potential issues with how databases are managed.
  Oh, so Cyrus is another 'use a database as a mail store'? The other one 
  that I know of but cannot remember the name of uses postgresql for its 
  mailstore.
 
 not at all - the mailstore itself is simply flat files - essentially a
 maildir type but all within specified director[y|ies]
 There were a number of db's that traditionally were berkeley db's but
 now the recommended method, as Adam pointed out is to use skiplist.

+1 

These databases exist in parallel with the mailstore [and are why nobody
and nothing should go manually whacking around inside the mailstore; in
addition to the fact that people make casual mistakes that good
administrative tools can prevent].

These databases track a variety of attributes and meta-data related to
the mail store such as seen-state, annotations,  quota, text indexing,
etc...

 Actually though, berkeley db is used by an awful lot of daemons such as
 OpenLDAP, Netatalk and is reasonably durable and to be honest, I've been
 using Cyrus w/ berkeley db's since the early 2000's and never had a
 problem whereas there have been times when I've had to slapd_db_recover
 berkeley db's from OpenLDAP.

Same here.  I've never had a corrupt BDB in Cyrus, but I have had them
in OpenLDAP.  I've talked to numerous people who have had issues with
BDB in Cyrus.  The issue is that BDB is extremely sensitive to the
environment,  so it is hard to know when it is 'right'.  Always best,
IMO, to avoid it.

 I gather that by comparison, PostgreSQL and MySQL are considered
 comparatively much slower and never used for these servers.

True, BDB is *MUCH* faster.  But then BDB is a key-value data store, and
PostgresSQL / MySQL are relational model databases.  Really apples 
oranges.

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[CentOS] high availability ideas

2011-11-14 Thread nux

Hi,

I'm looking for some recommendations. I need to have some sort of high 
availability for a set of php   mysql web sites, they must be hosted on 2 
servers, in separate data centres and obviously on differrent IPs.
I can't use a load balancer because that will introduce a single point of 
failure making the distributed setup useless. I was thinking some sort of 
drbd/glusterfs/mysql-master-master replication and figure out how to make 
the dns system responsible with the fail over.
Am I going too far with this?

Thanks.


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[CentOS] VM Philosophy 101 - How many and for what?

2011-11-14 Thread James B. Byrne
We are at the stage, finally, where we are prepared to
deploy public facing VM guests.  Now we have to answer
these questions: How many guests in total should we
contemplate and what services are placed on which guests?

My question comes down to whether it is considered
advisable to run the primary DNS and IMAP, or indeed all
services, on separate vm guests; or should we continue,
more or less, with the present split and just move
everything into guests on a one-for-one basis from our
existing hosts?  Will additional vms necessarily increase
the amount of time given to system maintenance as I
suspect?

Previously, with only a few physical hosts, the number of
platforms was fixed and services were split more or less
on the basis of internal and external users. Not to
mention which host had more available resources at the
time the service was implemented.

For example, presently our primary DNS and the IMAP
services runs on one server with MailScanner controlled
Sendmail used only for local delivery and forwarding.  On
another host we run the publicly accessible MX MTA and a
secondary public DNS.  On a third we run our fax server
and public web site together with a caching only DNS
service.

I very much would appreciate any relevant comments from
people who have already resolved this matter together with
their reasoning.

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Re: [CentOS] VM Philosophy 101 - How many and for what?

2011-11-14 Thread Digimer
On 11/14/2011 10:58 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
 We are at the stage, finally, where we are prepared to
 deploy public facing VM guests.  Now we have to answer
 these questions: How many guests in total should we
 contemplate and what services are placed on which guests?
 
 My question comes down to whether it is considered
 advisable to run the primary DNS and IMAP, or indeed all
 services, on separate vm guests; or should we continue,
 more or less, with the present split and just move
 everything into guests on a one-for-one basis from our
 existing hosts?  Will additional vms necessarily increase
 the amount of time given to system maintenance as I
 suspect?
 
 Previously, with only a few physical hosts, the number of
 platforms was fixed and services were split more or less
 on the basis of internal and external users. Not to
 mention which host had more available resources at the
 time the service was implemented.
 
 For example, presently our primary DNS and the IMAP
 services runs on one server with MailScanner controlled
 Sendmail used only for local delivery and forwarding.  On
 another host we run the publicly accessible MX MTA and a
 secondary public DNS.  On a third we run our fax server
 and public web site together with a caching only DNS
 service.
 
 I very much would appreciate any relevant comments from
 people who have already resolved this matter together with
 their reasoning.

My experience is that the limiting factor is disk I/O. If you're using
traditional platter drives, the VMs will span physically differing
sections of the disk(s). If the different VMs hit the disk at the same
time, the read/write heads will start flying all over the disks and the
seek latency will go up. This can quickly degrade performance to an
unusable level.

If you use SSDs, this issue goes away but then you need to pay special
attention that your host OS properly uses the SSDs (TRIM, garbage
collection, etc).

As for processing power; I used to pin VMs to CPU cores. I've since
abandoned this as I found the scheduler to do a great job and pushing
loads around cores to get best performance.

hth

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Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang

2011-11-14 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajar...@arinet.org wrote:
 Hi all,
 Recently one my Centos 5.7 VM just crashes at least once a day randomly 
 (hang).

 In /var/log/messages there is nothing at all that there is problem (no
 error, no failure). The log just stops.

 The only change I did before this crashes is I activated LDAP
 authentication, and also auditd. But I don't see any evidence relating
 to it.

Hi all,
I want to give update
Removing auditd didn't solve the problem. Still hang.

So, finally I create a cronjob to echo date and time into a text file
every 5 minutes to find out if there is a pattern on when the hang
occurs and the result is 
It hasn't hang for more than 3 days...!

Definitely there is still problem, but somehow that cronjob prevents
the hang from occurring. Like as if the VM got idle, it will hang?
I don't know...
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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:51:42 AM Craig White wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 09:25 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 
  ... there is a learning curve to get
  proficient at doing Debian/Ubuntu.
 
 ... There's only what you know, how you
 can adapt what you know and how well you can make it work for you and
 how much time you are willing to give to learning something new.

If I may expound a tad, and I will endeavor to keep this brief, it goes one 
step farther than this.  It becomes a balance of how much time and effort will 
it take to adapt what you know to your task? against how steep is the 
learning curve for something you aren't proficient in, but is already known to 
do your desired task?  And sometimes, if not most of the time, it's a 
three-way balance with what is the cost, monetary or otherwise, to get someone 
else to do it?

As an example, I have four relatively nice SGI Altix IA64 systems here.  I 
would prefer to run CentOS on them, since I can't afford RHEL for them, nor is 
RHEL 6 available for them.  I have the knowledge to rebuild EL6 on the boxes, 
but I honestly don't have the time to work through all the details, even though 
the geek packager in me desperately wants to try.  The latest Debian Stable 
works quite well on the boxen, but my knowledge of Debian is somewhat limited.  
So, I have a three-way balance between:

1.) Pay the cost of RHEL, with the knowledge that RHEL 5 is the last for IA64;
2.) Maintain my own private or semiprivate rebuild for IA64 of EL 6;
3.) Install Debian and get the boxen doing something (and potentially 
generating revenue), and climb yet another learning curve.

I chose 3 at the moment.  It was not an easy choice.  
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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 81, Issue 7

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:38:54 +
From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 i386 dstat
FASTTRACK   Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: 2014103854.ga4...@chakra.karan.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1450 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1450.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
833fc074f1071fe079c35fffcac78b2d  dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.noarch.rpm

Source:
e9843c235ab9e25721ac3620a12c3ceb  dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.src.rpm


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:38:54 +
From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 x86_64 dstat
FASTTRACK   Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: 2014103854.ga4...@chakra.karan.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1450 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1450.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
833fc074f1071fe079c35fffcac78b2d  dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.noarch.rpm

Source:
e9843c235ab9e25721ac3620a12c3ceb  dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.src.rpm


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:41:05 +
From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 i386 perl-XML-SAX
FASTTRACK Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: 2014104105.ga4...@chakra.karan.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1446 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1446.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
47eeab4c308fbf62d697aa7130cad9a4  perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.noarch.rpm

Source:
87dceb01f600717c787f9bc069d5bac9  perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.src.rpm


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:41:06 +
From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 x86_64 perl-XML-SAX
FASTTRACK Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: 2014104106.ga4...@chakra.karan.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1446 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1446.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
47eeab4c308fbf62d697aa7130cad9a4  perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.noarch.rpm

Source:
87dceb01f600717c787f9bc069d5bac9  perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.src.rpm


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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:43:33 +
From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1449 CentOS 5 x86_64 tar
FASTTRACK  

Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang

2011-11-14 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/14/2011 05:09 PM, Fajar Priyanto piše:
 On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Fajar Priyantofajar...@arinet.org  wrote:
 Hi all,
 Recently one my Centos 5.7 VM just crashes at least once a day randomly 
 (hang).

 In /var/log/messages there is nothing at all that there is problem (no
 error, no failure). The log just stops.

 The only change I did before this crashes is I activated LDAP
 authentication, and also auditd. But I don't see any evidence relating
 to it.

 Hi all,
 I want to give update
 Removing auditd didn't solve the problem. Still hang.

 So, finally I create a cronjob to echo date and time into a text file
 every 5 minutes to find out if there is a pattern on when the hang
 occurs and the result is 
 It hasn't hang for more than 3 days...!

 Definitely there is still problem, but somehow that cronjob prevents
 the hang from occurring. Like as if the VM got idle, it will hang?
 I don't know...
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Do you have some sort of standby turned on by the guest?

Or maybe Host does not see any activity of the guest and tryies to 
suspend it?

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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread m . roth
Christopher Chan wrote:
 On Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:33 PM, Craig White wrote:

 7- The install, of the virtual host, added libvirt. It did not however
 install things like virt-install or any other virt software.
 Infact, no guest installation tools were added, though things like
 virsh
 were installed. Sigh.

 8- The firewall and network do not have the scripts folder. You have to
 build your own firewall file and add scripts
 to make it over ride the stock one via the eth you want to use it
 forwtf?

 
 all sorts of packages for firewall management.
snip
Tried Bastille Linux? It's not a distro, but a set of hardening scripts,
and is highly thought of, including by me.

mark

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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread m . roth
Craig White wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 01:05 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 James A. Peltier wrote:

  Fedora 16 moved to GRUB 2 as well.  It will be in RHEL/CentOS in the
 next
  release.  Get used to it. ;)

 Grub2 really seems extraordinarily verbose.
 One can't help wondering if the simplicity of the old grub
 offended the developers.
 Simplicity does not seem to be highly valued nowadays.
 
 grub2 has more utility (ie can boot of the newer fs types like ext4) and
 thus was inevitable.

It that's what they have on my Ubuntu netbook remix on my netbook, it is
ludicrously complex, and there's no reason that one more parm wouldn't
work in normal grub.

   mark, yeah, Grand Unified Boot Loader

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[CentOS] bond of bonds

2011-11-14 Thread Paras pradhan
Hi,

I am trying to use Link-aggregation with redundancy between switches
that doesnot support SMLT in switches.


I have 4 network ports. First two are connected to a switch and
LACP/LAG is enabled. Third and Fourth ports connect to another switch
with another LAG group. I was thinking create two mode 4 bonds and
bond those bonds to mode 1 (Active/Passive) bond.  But it seems this
is not supported yet in kernel (?). How do you guys handle this kind
of situation.  (And yes without using SMLT between switches).



Thanks
Paras.
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[CentOS] CentOS versus Scientific

2011-11-14 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks,

I was just reminded of the Scientific distro, which on the surface
appears to be quite similar to CentOS even when the developers over
there are rather coy about which Enterprise Linux distro they base
theirs on.

I wonder if anyone here has done a comparison of the two that they'd
care to share.

I work in a Scientific Research Lab (Stem Cell Research) and am
wondering if there is anything about the Scientific disto that might
be better suited to our needs, even if it is only the fact that it is
put together by people who work in similar environments and would
therefore understand our needs better.

I'm just starting to read up on it to see what I think and thought I
would ask what others think.

One thing I will have to look into of course is what kind of support
there is - this list is absolutely fantastic for CentOS and that alone
is worth a lot.

cheers,
-Alan


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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Alan McKay
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Bob Hoffman b...@bobhoffman.com wrote:
 This is  a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the
 thought of moving from centos
 due to redhats new business model.

Can someone fill me in on this new business model?  Is there a thread
here on the list about it already?


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS versus Scientific

2011-11-14 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 14 November 2011 20:31, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey folks,

 I was just reminded of the Scientific distro, which on the surface
 appears to be quite similar to CentOS even when the developers over
 there are rather coy about which Enterprise Linux distro they base
 theirs on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Linux

It is an other repackaging of the Upstream, with different goals in mind.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS versus Scientific

2011-11-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was just reminded of the Scientific distro, which on the surface
 appears to be quite similar to CentOS even when the developers over
 there are rather coy about which Enterprise Linux distro they base
 theirs on.

 I wonder if anyone here has done a comparison of the two that they'd
 care to share.

 I work in a Scientific Research Lab (Stem Cell Research) and am
 wondering if there is anything about the Scientific disto that might
 be better suited to our needs, even if it is only the fact that it is
 put together by people who work in similar environments and would
 therefore understand our needs better.

 I'm just starting to read up on it to see what I think and thought I
 would ask what others think.

 One thing I will have to look into of course is what kind of support
 there is - this list is absolutely fantastic for CentOS and that alone
 is worth a lot.

CentOS attempts to be strictly/religiously compatible with upstream
except for merging the workstation/server variations - to the point
that it is supposed to be easy to buy a support contract and flip to
RHEL for updates.  SL makes some changes on purpose:
http://www.scientificlinux.org/about/customize and makes strict
compatibility less of a priority.  But it is still a rebuild from the
same sources and I would doubt that you'd see any practical difference
in running any particular application under them.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS versus Scientific

2011-11-14 Thread Alain Péan
Le 14/11/2011 21:31, Alan McKay a écrit :
 Hey folks,

 I was just reminded of the Scientific distro, which on the surface
 appears to be quite similar to CentOS even when the developers over
 there are rather coy about which Enterprise Linux distro they base
 theirs on.

 I wonder if anyone here has done a comparison of the two that they'd
 care to share.

 I work in a Scientific Research Lab (Stem Cell Research) and am
 wondering if there is anything about the Scientific disto that might
 be better suited to our needs, even if it is only the fact that it is
 put together by people who work in similar environments and would
 therefore understand our needs better.

 I'm just starting to read up on it to see what I think and thought I
 would ask what others think.

 One thing I will have to look into of course is what kind of support
 there is - this list is absolutely fantastic for CentOS and that alone
 is worth a lot.

 cheers,
 -Alan



Hi Alan,

One difference is that SL 6.1 has been releasd on July, 28. See :
http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/6x/rnotes/sl-release-notes-6.1.html

The distrib is supported by Fermilab and CERN, and is in fact a rebuild 
of RHEL with very few elements added. Some which were added previously 
(Root...) are now in EPEL repository.

There are at least two paid developpers to incure for releases and 
updates, which are said to be released within a couple of days :
http://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation/faq/errata

Alain
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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/14/2011 09:34 PM, Alan McKay piše:
 On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Bob Hoffmanb...@bobhoffman.com  wrote:
 This is  a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the
 thought of moving from centos
 due to redhats new business model.

 Can someone fill me in on this new business model?  Is there a thread
 here on the list about it already?

There are at least 10-20 posts writing about it.

Use this link to Mailing list Archive:
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/

And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you 
read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask.

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Re: [CentOS] After Latest Update...

2011-11-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Phil Savoie psavoie1...@rogers.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Using the following to ssh into my home to get mail, I suddenly get this:

 ssh  -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -o ServerAliveInterval=240 -L
 110:192.168.100.108:110 phil@FQDN
 phil@FQDN's password:
 bind: Cannot assign requested address 
 Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:29 2011 from FQDN

 I have never seen what I am indicating before and am wondering why this
 would suddenly appear?

Did you by any chance disable ipv6 by adding the following line to
/etc/sysctl.conf ?

net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1

If so, try commenting that out and run:

/sbin/sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf

and see if that makes a difference.

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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Alan McKay
 And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you
 read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask.


OK, Ill do some googling.  I have the last several years of this list
in my gmail so away I go ...

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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/14/2011 11:18 PM, Alan McKay piše:
 And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you
 read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask.


 OK, Ill do some googling.  I have the last several years of this list
 in my gmail so away I go ...


Topic is in several threads and part of threads in this mailing list in 
last 1(-2) months. With details about impact on CentOS. But it is too 
spread out for providing links and you would miss possible info.

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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:
 Vreme: 11/14/2011 11:18 PM, Alan McKay piše:
 And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you
 read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask.


 OK, Ill do some googling.  I have the last several years of this list
 in my gmail so away I go ...


 Topic is in several threads and part of threads in this mailing list in
 last 1(-2) months. With details about impact on CentOS. But it is too
 spread out for providing links and you would miss possible info.

Don't expect much useful information, though... As I recall it was
someone mentioning a problem with no details and assorted rants about
off topic postings.

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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Edward Martinez
On 11/14/11 14:18, Alan McKay wrote:
 And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you
 read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask.

 OK, Ill do some googling.  I have the last several years of this list
 in my gmail so away I go ...

 it's close to 200 replies. I'm new to centos so i had plenty of 
emails to read;-)



http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/subject.html


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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Alan McKay
     it's close to 200 replies. I'm new to centos so i had plenty of
 emails to read;-)

Which thread is it, I poked around but have not found it.

What is the subject?


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Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2

2011-11-14 Thread Scott Silva
on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following:
 Sorry, I have been away for a while. has anyone fixed CD2 fotr CentOS v3.3 ?

CentOS 3.3 is out of production and off support... For a while now...


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Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2

2011-11-14 Thread Scott Silva
on 11/14/2011 4:09 PM Scott Silva spake the following:
 on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following:
 Sorry, I have been away for a while. has anyone fixed CD2 fotr CentOS v3.3 ?

 CentOS 3.3 is out of production and off support... For a while now...
Sorry... For some reason all my old threads are marked as unread...


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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Edward Martinez
On 11/14/11 16:05, Alan McKay wrote:
  it's close to 200 replies. I'm new to centos so i had plenty of
 emails to read;-)
 Which thread is it, I poked around but have not found it.

 What is the subject?


 scroll all the way down until you come to the first  redhat vs 
centos  email:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/subject.html

   I think this was the first:

  http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/119238.html


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Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2

2011-11-14 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 01:10 AM, Scott Silva piše:
 on 11/14/2011 4:09 PM Scott Silva spake the following:
 on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following:
 Sorry, I have been away for a while. has anyone fixed CD2 fotr CentOS v3.3 ?

 CentOS 3.3 is out of production and off support... For a while now...
 Sorry... For some reason all my old threads are marked as unread...


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Nice mail database...

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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/15/2011 02:39 AM, Edward Martinez piše:
 On 11/14/11 16:05, Alan McKay wrote:
   it's close to 200 replies. I'm new to centos so i had plenty of
 emails to read;-)
 Which thread is it, I poked around but have not found it.

 What is the subject?


   scroll all the way down until you come to the first  redhat vs
 centos  email:

  http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/subject.html

 I think this was the first:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/119238.html


That thread is only ~100 mails strong. But there are (I think) more 
important posts in 'What happened to 6.1 thread (also ~100 mails strong).

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Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2

2011-11-14 Thread Jonathan Nilsson
 Nice mail database...


apparently the mail client has some nice features too:

 on 11/14/2011 4:09 PM Scott Silva spake the following:

 on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following:


wouldst thou be willing to divulge thy mail client and/or plugin which
spake in such a manner?

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[CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-14 Thread Alan McKay
These seems to me to be the first message in the series and provides a
really good summary of the changes at Red Hat which seem to be making
life a lot more difficult for CentOS.

Just figured I'd pull it out of that thread and change the subject line.

Below Johnny's email I've copied another from the original thread,
written by Lamar Owen, which gives some good explanation on how Red
Hat is able to get away with this.

Basically from what I gather, while Red Hat cannot restrict access to
sources, they can restrict access to binaries.  And since CentOS has a
goal of binary compatibility with upstream, they are essentially left
trying to hit an unknown target.  But (now I'm stretching my limited
knowledge even further) Scientific does not have this restriction
since they are less concerned about exact binary compat.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:
 On 10/21/2011 10:01 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
 nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote:

 Johnny, chill. I don't blame him for being confused. Up until right now,
 you updated to a point release, then, over the weeks and months, there
 were updates. All of a sudden, there are *no* updates for the 6.0 point
 release, which is a major change in what everyone expected, based on
 history.

 this is the way it has always been: once upstream releases x.y+1 , there
 are no more updates to x.y (in upstream and therefore also in centos),
 until centos releases x.y+1 .

 Yes, but that used to be transparent, because the centos x.y+1 release
 happened quickly so it didn't matter that the update repo was held
 back until an iso build was done.


 Yes, and NOW the release process is MUCH harder.

 Red Hat used to have an AS release that contained everything ... we
 build that and we get everything.  Nice and simple.  Build all the
 packages, look at it against the AS iso set ... done.  Two weeks was
 about as long as it took.

 Now, for version 6, they have:

 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux HPC Node (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation FasTrack (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server FasTrack (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop FasTrack (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Scalable File System (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Resilient Storage (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Load Balancer (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux HPC Node FasTrack (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux High Performance Network (v. 6)
 Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization

 They have the same install groups with different packages based on the
 above groupings, so we have to do some kind of custom generation of the
 comps files to things work.

 They have created an optional channel in several of those groupings that
 is only accessible via RHN and they do not put those RPMS on any ISOs
 ... and they have completely changed their Authorized Use Policy so
 that we can NOT login to RHN and use anything that is not on a public
 FTP server or on an ISO set ... effectively cutting us off from the
 ability to check anything on the optional channel.

 Now we have to engineer a compilation of all those groupings, we have to
 figure out what parts of the optional channels go at the point release
 and which ones do not (the ones that are upgrades).   Sometimes the only
 way to tell is when something does not build correctly and you have
 reverse an optional package to a previous version for the build, etc.

 We have to use anaconda to build our ISOs and upstream is using
 something else to build theirs .. so anaconda NEVER works anymore out
 of the box.  We get ISOs (or usb images) that do not work and have to
 basically redesign anaconda.

 We can't look at upstream build logs, we can't get all the binary RPMs
 for testing and be within the Terms of Service.

 And with the new release, it seems that they have purposely broken the
 rpmmacros, and do not care to fix it:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=743229

 So, trust me, it is MUCH more complicated now than it was with previous
 releases to build.

 With the 5.7 release, there were several SRPMS that did not make it to
 the public FTP server without much prompting from us.  And with the
 Authorized Use Policy, I can not just go to RHN and grab that SRPM and
 use it.  If it is not public, we can no longer release it.

 So, the short answer is, it now takes longer.

 Thanks,
 Johnny Hughes


Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu via centos.org
Oct 28
to CentOS
On Friday, October 21, 2011 02:22:26 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
 Which is explicitly imposing additional restrictions.  Which is
 explicitly prohibited in section 6.  I don't see any exceptions
 relating to what the consequences of those restrictions might be.

The RHN AUP simply says that if you redistribute information from RHN
you lose access to RHN.  It does not restrict your right to

[CentOS] Centos 5.7--desktop icons are now a blank sheet of paper with the .desktop filename and they don't work

2011-11-14 Thread fred smith
Just rebooted my box (switched keyboards, and since it's a PS/2 keyboard,
it needs to be done at poweroff) and when it came back up, (almost) all
the desktop icons I've created (as distinct from the ones that came with
the system) now don't display correctly.

Instead of the graphic assigned to each, it's just a picture of a blank
sheet of paper with the corner folded over, and the icon text is the
name of the .desktop file that defines the particular item.

worse, when I click one, they don't work... I get a popup window containing
this text (when attempting to fire up a local rebuild of Audacity, or
the appropriate name when attempting to use one of the other ones):

The filename Audacity (local build).desktop indicates that
this file is of type desktop document. The contents of the
file indicate that the file is of type desktop configuration
file. If you open this file, the file might present a security
risk to your system.

Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or
received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename
the file to the correct extension for desktop configuration
file, then open the file normally. Alternatively, use the Open
With menu to choose a specific application for the file.

I don't really know what settings could have changed, but the ownership
and permissions look reasonable to me: the files in my ~/Desktop folder
look like this:

$ ls -l
total 88
-rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex  305 Jul  9 16:15 Audacity (local build).desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 fredex fredex  859 May 22 16:24 bar-008d741c23.desktop
-rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex  376 Nov 11 09:16 Firefox-4.desktop
-rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex  311 Nov 10 14:00 fred's desktop on 
cibf-fred1pc.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 fredex fredex  442 May 27 19:53 gegl-00efc0b78f.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 fredex fredex  981 Oct 30  2009 greasy-00f830171b.desktop
-rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex  288 Jun 25  2010 Osmos.desktop
-rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex  369 Jul 10 23:14 Pysol-FC.desktop
-rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex  378 Feb 22  2011 quadra.desktop
drwxrwxr-x 2 fredex fredex 4096 Jan 27  2011 radio stations
-rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex  359 May 24 21:14 razorsql.desktop

and the Desktop folder's permissions are:

$ ls -ld Desktop
drwxr-xr-x 3 fredex fredex 4096 Oct 25 15:03 Desktop

note that the Desktop folder contains a subdirectory named radio stations,
and that its representation on the desktop looks correct. but when I click
on it to open up that folder, all its contents are also broken in the
same way.

Anybody got any clues?

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Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Basically from what I gather, while Red Hat cannot restrict access to
 sources, they can restrict access to binaries.  And since CentOS has a
 goal of binary compatibility with upstream, they are essentially left
 trying to hit an unknown target.  But (now I'm stretching my limited
 knowledge even further) Scientific does not have this restriction
 since they are less concerned about exact binary compat.

You are stretching your knowledge to a wrong direction :)

Both CentOS and Scientific Linux *aim* at 100% binary compatibility
and they are both doing their best toward that goal. However, neither
is perfect.

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/119250.html

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

2011-11-14 Thread Alan McKay
 Both CentOS and Scientific Linux *aim* at 100% binary compatibility
 and they are both doing their best toward that goal. However, neither
 is perfect.

That's interesting.  So how is it they've managed to come out with 6.1
(and so long ago at that)?


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Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2

2011-11-14 Thread Peter Eckel
Hi Jonathan, 

 wouldst thou be willing to divulge thy mail client and/or plugin which
 spake in such a manner?

thou shalt read the headers:

 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/2005 Thunderbird/8.0


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