[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 i386 dstat FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1450 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1450.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 833fc074f1071fe079c35fffcac78b2d dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.noarch.rpm Source: e9843c235ab9e25721ac3620a12c3ceb dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 x86_64 dstat FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1450 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1450.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 833fc074f1071fe079c35fffcac78b2d dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.noarch.rpm Source: e9843c235ab9e25721ac3620a12c3ceb dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 i386 perl-XML-SAX FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1446 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1446.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 47eeab4c308fbf62d697aa7130cad9a4 perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.noarch.rpm Source: 87dceb01f600717c787f9bc069d5bac9 perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 x86_64 perl-XML-SAX FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1446 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1446.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 47eeab4c308fbf62d697aa7130cad9a4 perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.noarch.rpm Source: 87dceb01f600717c787f9bc069d5bac9 perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1449 CentOS 5 x86_64 tar FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1449 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1449.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: e087af8462ab1d1a7ae1a2ec130d617e tar-1.15.1-31.el5.x86_64.rpm Source: a44e2798260d52075de4d67456ca228f tar-1.15.1-31.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1449 CentOS 5 i386 tar FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1449 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1449.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 9e218c0410253f1d8a4d1e6db18bd010 tar-1.15.1-31.el5.i386.rpm Source: a44e2798260d52075de4d67456ca228f tar-1.15.1-31.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1451 CentOS 5 x86_64 openmotif FASTTRACK Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1451 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1451.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: d13b160627eaa82770bf5faad2de6b69 openmotif-2.3.1-6.el5.i386.rpm 2840220cf9f16758efb2b11662156bc9 openmotif-2.3.1-6.el5.x86_64.rpm c2ae896340d5f10dd2089d7fa0292117 openmotif-devel-2.3.1-6.el5.i386.rpm f982a1dd883f4d05de6300a33aa4c4a9 openmotif-devel-2.3.1-6.el5.x86_64.rpm Source: c1bb9d6a2f99ce22f9dd4a927a495309 openmotif-2.3.1-6.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1448 CentOS 5 x86_64 udev Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1448 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1448.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 52331ac5b121d39f5106b6ace8e8a447 libvolume_id-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm c8a5a5509ae202817ada44f7a9ac1a05 libvolume_id-095-14.27.el5_7.1.x86_64.rpm a7259d48c1a67b59db82c55bc80d64ae libvolume_id-devel-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm 1fa6306c7c3cd4fed9fd151eb2071929 libvolume_id-devel-095-14.27.el5_7.1.x86_64.rpm 4692a69522466f4693a12939a8b9b1b6 udev-095-14.27.el5_7.1.x86_64.rpm Source: 1b2fea84b48f505bcb6f1678589cd2ab udev-095-14.27.el5_7.1.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1448 CentOS 5 i386 udev Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1448 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1448.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 52331ac5b121d39f5106b6ace8e8a447 libvolume_id-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm a7259d48c1a67b59db82c55bc80d64ae libvolume_id-devel-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm c7ca011fa7673bec61ad6ef44eee3dcf udev-095-14.27.el5_7.1.i386.rpm Source: 1b2fea84b48f505bcb6f1678589cd2ab udev-095-14.27.el5_7.1.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1447 CentOS 5 i386 postgresql Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1447 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1447.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: b5514d15534a92a124cfaa0c2db0c5f2 postgresql-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm 97d5081c03bea73881d0d0854a9432a1 postgresql-contrib-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm 24a87670ce35793b4b9bac6259481e38 postgresql-devel-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm c137c51f2245fb3039a6b15ae1e7b84f postgresql-docs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm 1565023f3fcc894c998aa3117ffb9540 postgresql-libs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm ed2f6ee0c2149f88004112f438688500 postgresql-pl-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm 2b13c2f5eb0506e916d885a7b70d61b3 postgresql-python-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm 8f097242d07b54af6d3995f531d96522 postgresql-server-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm 512d8d28ece6cecf8164ba242d9dba92 postgresql-tcl-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm edb929fc2f914e7c6d6331b5b5faa89d postgresql-test-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm Source: 66e37d6821a0aadf091a740a6031f0f0 postgresql-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1447 CentOS 5 x86_64 postgresql Update
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1447 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1447.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 87cb06380e2f4fec07092215b3954f67 postgresql-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm 81f8d06838439ec6e0aa17e5ca72aead postgresql-contrib-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm 24a87670ce35793b4b9bac6259481e38 postgresql-devel-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm 84b7d50ccc6a7efb5f0808c735bfae34 postgresql-devel-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm c1dd4654ed677d6fce860743c47be86d postgresql-docs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm 1565023f3fcc894c998aa3117ffb9540 postgresql-libs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.i386.rpm 1cef8ff3138f65eef19e9f27e795d57f postgresql-libs-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm 668fa8938832e8cf280f6a38c2fb6bc1 postgresql-pl-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm a625fda5c6968ee3a3b8706c1bb8fb5d postgresql-python-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm ff0b63e283098f936e5e05ec3a5c906d postgresql-server-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm 4c2d8f66ef3ebae2851c2b6bc96f postgresql-tcl-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm 66da6094b685694cb35c757ff11e06aa postgresql-test-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.x86_64.rpm Source: 66e37d6821a0aadf091a740a6031f0f0 postgresql-8.1.23-1.el5_7.3.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 installation problem on i7 machine
Thanks, Rajagopal Can't see any graphics driver for RHEL-anything on the HP support site. No worries - the kmod from elRepo works just fine for me cheers, - cal Greetings, On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajsand at gmail.com wrote: Greetings, AFAIK, HP Website does provide drivers for RHEL on its servers. Haven't checked if it is available for RHEL6 though. http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/servers/linux/hplinuxcert.html further http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?lang=encc=usprodNameId=3884320taskId=135prodTypeId=15351prodSeriesId=3884319lang=encc=us This could be even better: http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=encc=usprodNameId=3884320prodTypeId=15351prodSeriesId=3884319swLang=8taskId=135swEnvOID=4103 HTH BTW, Hurray! I found Centos also listed as supported (in some models, I suppose) -- Regards, Rajagopal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] binding additional IP addresses to centos6 on one interface
Jonathan Vomacka writes: Reindl, A block of 10 IPV4 is not a lot, and they will all eventually be used. My question is, my server IP is 66.80.x.x and my additional IPS are in the 50.7.x.x range using a netmask of 255.255.255.248. Can the netmask be written in the range file like it is in the ifcfg-eth0:0? Reindl, Please do not top post. 255.255.255.248 gives you a total of 8 IPs, not 10, of which usually you loose 3 for the network, broadcast and gw addresses. You can assign those 5 in a range file without problems, you can also specify the netmask like in a normal cfg file. It shouldn't be needed to specify other settings. Where I work we'd route the additional subnet through the IP you already have on the server, thus allowing you to allocate _all_ 8 IPs as a range on the loopback interface with a /32 netmask. See if your ISP can do this for you. -- Nux! www.nux.ro ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] binding additional IP addresses to centos6 on one interface
Am 14.11.2011 12:03, schrieb n...@li.nux.ro: Jonathan Vomacka writes: Reindl, A block of 10 IPV4 is not a lot, and they will all eventually be used. My question is, my server IP is 66.80.x.x and my additional IPS are in the 50.7.x.x range using a netmask of 255.255.255.248. Can the netmask be written in the range file like it is in the ifcfg-eth0:0? Reindl, Please do not top post maybe you should open your eyes or learn to use you reply button which knows better who wrote what and do not quote my name to anything i have not written my only reply to this thread was at 0:35 and there was no top-post signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] No more sound since gfx card update
Our workstation vendor EOL'd the gfx card we were buying and replaced it with a different model. With the new card, sound is no longer working. Previous system: # lspci |grep -i audio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller # aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono # New system: # lspci |grep -i aud 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller 02:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) # aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0' ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2184:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default aplay: main:583: audio open error: No such file or directory # Is it possible to disable the NVidia sound device and revert to system board sound? The card is a Quadro 600 with DVI and DisplayPort adapters, and the systems are running CentOS5.4. Alternatively, is there a driver? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] After Latest Update...
Hi All, Using the following to ssh into my home to get mail, I suddenly get this: ssh -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -o ServerAliveInterval=240 -L 110:192.168.100.108:110 phil@FQDN phil@FQDN's password: bind: Cannot assign requested address Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:29 2011 from FQDN I have never seen what I am indicating before and am wondering why this would suddenly appear? Thank you, Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] After Latest Update...
On Mon, November 14, 2011 13:39, Phil Savoie wrote: Hi All, Using the following to ssh into my home to get mail, I suddenly get this: ssh -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -o ServerAliveInterval=240 -L 110:192.168.100.108:110 phil@FQDN phil@FQDN's password: bind: Cannot assign requested address Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:29 2011 from FQDN I have never seen what I am indicating before and am wondering why this would suddenly appear? Do you have something listening on localhost:110 ? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] After Latest Update...
Phil Savoie wrote: Hi All, Using the following to ssh into my home to get mail, I suddenly get this: ssh -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -o ServerAliveInterval=240 -L 110:192.168.100.108:110 phil@FQDN phil@FQDN's password: bind: Cannot assign requested address Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:29 2011 from FQDN I have never seen what I am indicating before and am wondering why this would suddenly appear? I thought only root can perform action ports below 1024? Thank you, Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 09:47 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:53 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Cyrus is incredibly reliable, stable and fast. And the latest 2.4.x series closes numerous potential issues with how databases are managed. Oh, so Cyrus is another 'use a database as a mail store'? The other one that I know of but cannot remember the name of uses postgresql for its mailstore. not at all - the mailstore itself is simply flat files - essentially a maildir type but all within specified director[y|ies] There were a number of db's that traditionally were berkeley db's but now the recommended method, as Adam pointed out is to use skiplist. +1 These databases exist in parallel with the mailstore [and are why nobody and nothing should go manually whacking around inside the mailstore; in addition to the fact that people make casual mistakes that good administrative tools can prevent]. These databases track a variety of attributes and meta-data related to the mail store such as seen-state, annotations, quota, text indexing, etc... Actually though, berkeley db is used by an awful lot of daemons such as OpenLDAP, Netatalk and is reasonably durable and to be honest, I've been using Cyrus w/ berkeley db's since the early 2000's and never had a problem whereas there have been times when I've had to slapd_db_recover berkeley db's from OpenLDAP. Same here. I've never had a corrupt BDB in Cyrus, but I have had them in OpenLDAP. I've talked to numerous people who have had issues with BDB in Cyrus. The issue is that BDB is extremely sensitive to the environment, so it is hard to know when it is 'right'. Always best, IMO, to avoid it. I gather that by comparison, PostgreSQL and MySQL are considered comparatively much slower and never used for these servers. True, BDB is *MUCH* faster. But then BDB is a key-value data store, and PostgresSQL / MySQL are relational model databases. Really apples oranges. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] high availability ideas
Hi, I'm looking for some recommendations. I need to have some sort of high availability for a set of php mysql web sites, they must be hosted on 2 servers, in separate data centres and obviously on differrent IPs. I can't use a load balancer because that will introduce a single point of failure making the distributed setup useless. I was thinking some sort of drbd/glusterfs/mysql-master-master replication and figure out how to make the dns system responsible with the fail over. Am I going too far with this? Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] VM Philosophy 101 - How many and for what?
We are at the stage, finally, where we are prepared to deploy public facing VM guests. Now we have to answer these questions: How many guests in total should we contemplate and what services are placed on which guests? My question comes down to whether it is considered advisable to run the primary DNS and IMAP, or indeed all services, on separate vm guests; or should we continue, more or less, with the present split and just move everything into guests on a one-for-one basis from our existing hosts? Will additional vms necessarily increase the amount of time given to system maintenance as I suspect? Previously, with only a few physical hosts, the number of platforms was fixed and services were split more or less on the basis of internal and external users. Not to mention which host had more available resources at the time the service was implemented. For example, presently our primary DNS and the IMAP services runs on one server with MailScanner controlled Sendmail used only for local delivery and forwarding. On another host we run the publicly accessible MX MTA and a secondary public DNS. On a third we run our fax server and public web site together with a caching only DNS service. I very much would appreciate any relevant comments from people who have already resolved this matter together with their reasoning. -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VM Philosophy 101 - How many and for what?
On 11/14/2011 10:58 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: We are at the stage, finally, where we are prepared to deploy public facing VM guests. Now we have to answer these questions: How many guests in total should we contemplate and what services are placed on which guests? My question comes down to whether it is considered advisable to run the primary DNS and IMAP, or indeed all services, on separate vm guests; or should we continue, more or less, with the present split and just move everything into guests on a one-for-one basis from our existing hosts? Will additional vms necessarily increase the amount of time given to system maintenance as I suspect? Previously, with only a few physical hosts, the number of platforms was fixed and services were split more or less on the basis of internal and external users. Not to mention which host had more available resources at the time the service was implemented. For example, presently our primary DNS and the IMAP services runs on one server with MailScanner controlled Sendmail used only for local delivery and forwarding. On another host we run the publicly accessible MX MTA and a secondary public DNS. On a third we run our fax server and public web site together with a caching only DNS service. I very much would appreciate any relevant comments from people who have already resolved this matter together with their reasoning. My experience is that the limiting factor is disk I/O. If you're using traditional platter drives, the VMs will span physically differing sections of the disk(s). If the different VMs hit the disk at the same time, the read/write heads will start flying all over the disks and the seek latency will go up. This can quickly degrade performance to an unusable level. If you use SSDs, this issue goes away but then you need to pay special attention that your host OS properly uses the SSDs (TRIM, garbage collection, etc). As for processing power; I used to pin VMs to CPU cores. I've since abandoned this as I found the scheduler to do a great job and pushing loads around cores to get best performance. hth -- Digimer E-Mail: digi...@alteeve.com Freenode handle: digimer Papers and Projects: http://alteeve.com Node Assassin: http://nodeassassin.org omg my singularity battery is dead again. stupid hawking radiation. - epitron ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajar...@arinet.org wrote: Hi all, Recently one my Centos 5.7 VM just crashes at least once a day randomly (hang). In /var/log/messages there is nothing at all that there is problem (no error, no failure). The log just stops. The only change I did before this crashes is I activated LDAP authentication, and also auditd. But I don't see any evidence relating to it. Hi all, I want to give update Removing auditd didn't solve the problem. Still hang. So, finally I create a cronjob to echo date and time into a text file every 5 minutes to find out if there is a pattern on when the hang occurs and the result is It hasn't hang for more than 3 days...! Definitely there is still problem, but somehow that cronjob prevents the hang from occurring. Like as if the VM got idle, it will hang? I don't know... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:51:42 AM Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 09:25 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: ... there is a learning curve to get proficient at doing Debian/Ubuntu. ... There's only what you know, how you can adapt what you know and how well you can make it work for you and how much time you are willing to give to learning something new. If I may expound a tad, and I will endeavor to keep this brief, it goes one step farther than this. It becomes a balance of how much time and effort will it take to adapt what you know to your task? against how steep is the learning curve for something you aren't proficient in, but is already known to do your desired task? And sometimes, if not most of the time, it's a three-way balance with what is the cost, monetary or otherwise, to get someone else to do it? As an example, I have four relatively nice SGI Altix IA64 systems here. I would prefer to run CentOS on them, since I can't afford RHEL for them, nor is RHEL 6 available for them. I have the knowledge to rebuild EL6 on the boxes, but I honestly don't have the time to work through all the details, even though the geek packager in me desperately wants to try. The latest Debian Stable works quite well on the boxen, but my knowledge of Debian is somewhat limited. So, I have a three-way balance between: 1.) Pay the cost of RHEL, with the knowledge that RHEL 5 is the last for IA64; 2.) Maintain my own private or semiprivate rebuild for IA64 of EL 6; 3.) Install Debian and get the boxen doing something (and potentially generating revenue), and climb yet another learning curve. I chose 3 at the moment. It was not an easy choice. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 81, Issue 7
Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-annou...@centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-requ...@centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-ow...@centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest... Today's Topics: 1. CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 i386 dstat FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 x86_64 dstat FASTTRACKUpdate (Johnny Hughes) 3. CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 i386 perl-XML-SAX FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) 4. CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 x86_64 perl-XML-SAX FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) 5. CEBA-2011:1449 CentOS 5 x86_64 tar FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) 6. CEBA-2011:1449 CentOS 5 i386 tar FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) 7. CEBA-2011:1451 CentOS 5 i386 openmotif FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) 8. CEBA-2011:1451 CentOS 5 x86_64 openmotif FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) 9. CEBA-2011:1448 CentOS 5 x86_64 udev Update (Johnny Hughes) 10. CEBA-2011:1448 CentOS 5 i386 udev Update (Johnny Hughes) 11. CEBA-2011:1447 CentOS 5 i386 postgresql Update (Johnny Hughes) 12. CEBA-2011:1447 CentOS 5 x86_64 postgresql Update (Johnny Hughes) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:38:54 + From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 i386 dstat FASTTRACK Update To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 2014103854.ga4...@chakra.karan.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1450 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1450.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 833fc074f1071fe079c35fffcac78b2d dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.noarch.rpm Source: e9843c235ab9e25721ac3620a12c3ceb dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:38:54 + From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1450 CentOS 5 x86_64 dstat FASTTRACK Update To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 2014103854.ga4...@chakra.karan.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1450 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1450.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 833fc074f1071fe079c35fffcac78b2d dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.noarch.rpm Source: e9843c235ab9e25721ac3620a12c3ceb dstat-0.6.6-5.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:41:05 + From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 i386 perl-XML-SAX FASTTRACK Update To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 2014104105.ga4...@chakra.karan.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1446 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1446.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 47eeab4c308fbf62d697aa7130cad9a4 perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.noarch.rpm Source: 87dceb01f600717c787f9bc069d5bac9 perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net -- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:41:06 + From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1446 CentOS 5 x86_64 perl-XML-SAX FASTTRACK Update To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 2014104106.ga4...@chakra.karan.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1446 Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1446.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 47eeab4c308fbf62d697aa7130cad9a4 perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.noarch.rpm Source: 87dceb01f600717c787f9bc069d5bac9 perl-XML-SAX-0.14-11.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net -- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:43:33 + From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1449 CentOS 5 x86_64 tar FASTTRACK
Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang
Vreme: 11/14/2011 05:09 PM, Fajar Priyanto piše: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Fajar Priyantofajar...@arinet.org wrote: Hi all, Recently one my Centos 5.7 VM just crashes at least once a day randomly (hang). In /var/log/messages there is nothing at all that there is problem (no error, no failure). The log just stops. The only change I did before this crashes is I activated LDAP authentication, and also auditd. But I don't see any evidence relating to it. Hi all, I want to give update Removing auditd didn't solve the problem. Still hang. So, finally I create a cronjob to echo date and time into a text file every 5 minutes to find out if there is a pattern on when the hang occurs and the result is It hasn't hang for more than 3 days...! Definitely there is still problem, but somehow that cronjob prevents the hang from occurring. Like as if the VM got idle, it will hang? I don't know... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Do you have some sort of standby turned on by the guest? Or maybe Host does not see any activity of the guest and tryies to suspend it? -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google is the Father, and traceroute is your trusty Spiderman... StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:33 PM, Craig White wrote: 7- The install, of the virtual host, added libvirt. It did not however install things like virt-install or any other virt software. Infact, no guest installation tools were added, though things like virsh were installed. Sigh. 8- The firewall and network do not have the scripts folder. You have to build your own firewall file and add scripts to make it over ride the stock one via the eth you want to use it forwtf? all sorts of packages for firewall management. snip Tried Bastille Linux? It's not a distro, but a set of hardening scripts, and is highly thought of, including by me. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 01:05 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: James A. Peltier wrote: Fedora 16 moved to GRUB 2 as well. It will be in RHEL/CentOS in the next release. Get used to it. ;) Grub2 really seems extraordinarily verbose. One can't help wondering if the simplicity of the old grub offended the developers. Simplicity does not seem to be highly valued nowadays. grub2 has more utility (ie can boot of the newer fs types like ext4) and thus was inevitable. It that's what they have on my Ubuntu netbook remix on my netbook, it is ludicrously complex, and there's no reason that one more parm wouldn't work in normal grub. mark, yeah, Grand Unified Boot Loader ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] bond of bonds
Hi, I am trying to use Link-aggregation with redundancy between switches that doesnot support SMLT in switches. I have 4 network ports. First two are connected to a switch and LACP/LAG is enabled. Third and Fourth ports connect to another switch with another LAG group. I was thinking create two mode 4 bonds and bond those bonds to mode 1 (Active/Passive) bond. But it seems this is not supported yet in kernel (?). How do you guys handle this kind of situation. (And yes without using SMLT between switches). Thanks Paras. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS versus Scientific
Hey folks, I was just reminded of the Scientific distro, which on the surface appears to be quite similar to CentOS even when the developers over there are rather coy about which Enterprise Linux distro they base theirs on. I wonder if anyone here has done a comparison of the two that they'd care to share. I work in a Scientific Research Lab (Stem Cell Research) and am wondering if there is anything about the Scientific disto that might be better suited to our needs, even if it is only the fact that it is put together by people who work in similar environments and would therefore understand our needs better. I'm just starting to read up on it to see what I think and thought I would ask what others think. One thing I will have to look into of course is what kind of support there is - this list is absolutely fantastic for CentOS and that alone is worth a lot. cheers, -Alan -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of In Defense of Food ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Bob Hoffman b...@bobhoffman.com wrote: This is a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the thought of moving from centos due to redhats new business model. Can someone fill me in on this new business model? Is there a thread here on the list about it already? -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of In Defense of Food ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS versus Scientific
On 14 November 2011 20:31, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, I was just reminded of the Scientific distro, which on the surface appears to be quite similar to CentOS even when the developers over there are rather coy about which Enterprise Linux distro they base theirs on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Linux It is an other repackaging of the Upstream, with different goals in mind. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS versus Scientific
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: I was just reminded of the Scientific distro, which on the surface appears to be quite similar to CentOS even when the developers over there are rather coy about which Enterprise Linux distro they base theirs on. I wonder if anyone here has done a comparison of the two that they'd care to share. I work in a Scientific Research Lab (Stem Cell Research) and am wondering if there is anything about the Scientific disto that might be better suited to our needs, even if it is only the fact that it is put together by people who work in similar environments and would therefore understand our needs better. I'm just starting to read up on it to see what I think and thought I would ask what others think. One thing I will have to look into of course is what kind of support there is - this list is absolutely fantastic for CentOS and that alone is worth a lot. CentOS attempts to be strictly/religiously compatible with upstream except for merging the workstation/server variations - to the point that it is supposed to be easy to buy a support contract and flip to RHEL for updates. SL makes some changes on purpose: http://www.scientificlinux.org/about/customize and makes strict compatibility less of a priority. But it is still a rebuild from the same sources and I would doubt that you'd see any practical difference in running any particular application under them. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS versus Scientific
Le 14/11/2011 21:31, Alan McKay a écrit : Hey folks, I was just reminded of the Scientific distro, which on the surface appears to be quite similar to CentOS even when the developers over there are rather coy about which Enterprise Linux distro they base theirs on. I wonder if anyone here has done a comparison of the two that they'd care to share. I work in a Scientific Research Lab (Stem Cell Research) and am wondering if there is anything about the Scientific disto that might be better suited to our needs, even if it is only the fact that it is put together by people who work in similar environments and would therefore understand our needs better. I'm just starting to read up on it to see what I think and thought I would ask what others think. One thing I will have to look into of course is what kind of support there is - this list is absolutely fantastic for CentOS and that alone is worth a lot. cheers, -Alan Hi Alan, One difference is that SL 6.1 has been releasd on July, 28. See : http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/6x/rnotes/sl-release-notes-6.1.html The distrib is supported by Fermilab and CERN, and is in fact a rebuild of RHEL with very few elements added. Some which were added previously (Root...) are now in EPEL repository. There are at least two paid developpers to incure for releases and updates, which are said to be released within a couple of days : http://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation/faq/errata Alain ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
Vreme: 11/14/2011 09:34 PM, Alan McKay piše: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Bob Hoffmanb...@bobhoffman.com wrote: This is a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the thought of moving from centos due to redhats new business model. Can someone fill me in on this new business model? Is there a thread here on the list about it already? There are at least 10-20 posts writing about it. Use this link to Mailing list Archive: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/ And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google is the Father, and traceroute is your trusty Spiderman... StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] After Latest Update...
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Phil Savoie psavoie1...@rogers.com wrote: Hi All, Using the following to ssh into my home to get mail, I suddenly get this: ssh -o TCPKeepAlive=yes -o ServerAliveInterval=240 -L 110:192.168.100.108:110 phil@FQDN phil@FQDN's password: bind: Cannot assign requested address Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:29 2011 from FQDN I have never seen what I am indicating before and am wondering why this would suddenly appear? Did you by any chance disable ipv6 by adding the following line to /etc/sysctl.conf ? net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 If so, try commenting that out and run: /sbin/sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf and see if that makes a difference. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask. OK, Ill do some googling. I have the last several years of this list in my gmail so away I go ... -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of In Defense of Food ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
Vreme: 11/14/2011 11:18 PM, Alan McKay piše: And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask. OK, Ill do some googling. I have the last several years of this list in my gmail so away I go ... Topic is in several threads and part of threads in this mailing list in last 1(-2) months. With details about impact on CentOS. But it is too spread out for providing links and you would miss possible info. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google is the Father, and traceroute is your trusty Spiderman... StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote: Vreme: 11/14/2011 11:18 PM, Alan McKay piše: And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask. OK, Ill do some googling. I have the last several years of this list in my gmail so away I go ... Topic is in several threads and part of threads in this mailing list in last 1(-2) months. With details about impact on CentOS. But it is too spread out for providing links and you would miss possible info. Don't expect much useful information, though... As I recall it was someone mentioning a problem with no details and assorted rants about off topic postings. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
On 11/14/11 14:18, Alan McKay wrote: And search for it. I hope nobody will start at it again, but AFTER you read the Archives and have *specific* questions feel free to ask. OK, Ill do some googling. I have the last several years of this list in my gmail so away I go ... it's close to 200 replies. I'm new to centos so i had plenty of emails to read;-) http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/subject.html ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
it's close to 200 replies. I'm new to centos so i had plenty of emails to read;-) Which thread is it, I poked around but have not found it. What is the subject? -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of In Defense of Food ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2
on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following: Sorry, I have been away for a while. has anyone fixed CD2 fotr CentOS v3.3 ? CentOS 3.3 is out of production and off support... For a while now... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2
on 11/14/2011 4:09 PM Scott Silva spake the following: on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following: Sorry, I have been away for a while. has anyone fixed CD2 fotr CentOS v3.3 ? CentOS 3.3 is out of production and off support... For a while now... Sorry... For some reason all my old threads are marked as unread... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
On 11/14/11 16:05, Alan McKay wrote: it's close to 200 replies. I'm new to centos so i had plenty of emails to read;-) Which thread is it, I poked around but have not found it. What is the subject? scroll all the way down until you come to the first redhat vs centos email: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/subject.html I think this was the first: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/119238.html ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2
Vreme: 11/15/2011 01:10 AM, Scott Silva piše: on 11/14/2011 4:09 PM Scott Silva spake the following: on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following: Sorry, I have been away for a while. has anyone fixed CD2 fotr CentOS v3.3 ? CentOS 3.3 is out of production and off support... For a while now... Sorry... For some reason all my old threads are marked as unread... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Nice mail database... -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google is the Father, and traceroute is your trusty Spiderman... StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
Vreme: 11/15/2011 02:39 AM, Edward Martinez piše: On 11/14/11 16:05, Alan McKay wrote: it's close to 200 replies. I'm new to centos so i had plenty of emails to read;-) Which thread is it, I poked around but have not found it. What is the subject? scroll all the way down until you come to the first redhat vs centos email: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/subject.html I think this was the first: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/119238.html That thread is only ~100 mails strong. But there are (I think) more important posts in 'What happened to 6.1 thread (also ~100 mails strong). -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe Google is the Mother, Google is the Father, and traceroute is your trusty Spiderman... StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2
Nice mail database... apparently the mail client has some nice features too: on 11/14/2011 4:09 PM Scott Silva spake the following: on 10/29/2004 5:55 AM Luis-Miguel Astudillo spake the following: wouldst thou be willing to divulge thy mail client and/or plugin which spake in such a manner? -- Ser Jonathan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)
These seems to me to be the first message in the series and provides a really good summary of the changes at Red Hat which seem to be making life a lot more difficult for CentOS. Just figured I'd pull it out of that thread and change the subject line. Below Johnny's email I've copied another from the original thread, written by Lamar Owen, which gives some good explanation on how Red Hat is able to get away with this. Basically from what I gather, while Red Hat cannot restrict access to sources, they can restrict access to binaries. And since CentOS has a goal of binary compatibility with upstream, they are essentially left trying to hit an unknown target. But (now I'm stretching my limited knowledge even further) Scientific does not have this restriction since they are less concerned about exact binary compat. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote: On 10/21/2011 10:01 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote: Johnny, chill. I don't blame him for being confused. Up until right now, you updated to a point release, then, over the weeks and months, there were updates. All of a sudden, there are *no* updates for the 6.0 point release, which is a major change in what everyone expected, based on history. this is the way it has always been: once upstream releases x.y+1 , there are no more updates to x.y (in upstream and therefore also in centos), until centos releases x.y+1 . Yes, but that used to be transparent, because the centos x.y+1 release happened quickly so it didn't matter that the update repo was held back until an iso build was done. Yes, and NOW the release process is MUCH harder. Red Hat used to have an AS release that contained everything ... we build that and we get everything. Nice and simple. Build all the packages, look at it against the AS iso set ... done. Two weeks was about as long as it took. Now, for version 6, they have: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux HPC Node (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation FasTrack (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server FasTrack (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop FasTrack (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux Scalable File System (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux Resilient Storage (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux Load Balancer (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux HPC Node FasTrack (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Linux High Performance Network (v. 6) Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization They have the same install groups with different packages based on the above groupings, so we have to do some kind of custom generation of the comps files to things work. They have created an optional channel in several of those groupings that is only accessible via RHN and they do not put those RPMS on any ISOs ... and they have completely changed their Authorized Use Policy so that we can NOT login to RHN and use anything that is not on a public FTP server or on an ISO set ... effectively cutting us off from the ability to check anything on the optional channel. Now we have to engineer a compilation of all those groupings, we have to figure out what parts of the optional channels go at the point release and which ones do not (the ones that are upgrades). Sometimes the only way to tell is when something does not build correctly and you have reverse an optional package to a previous version for the build, etc. We have to use anaconda to build our ISOs and upstream is using something else to build theirs .. so anaconda NEVER works anymore out of the box. We get ISOs (or usb images) that do not work and have to basically redesign anaconda. We can't look at upstream build logs, we can't get all the binary RPMs for testing and be within the Terms of Service. And with the new release, it seems that they have purposely broken the rpmmacros, and do not care to fix it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=743229 So, trust me, it is MUCH more complicated now than it was with previous releases to build. With the 5.7 release, there were several SRPMS that did not make it to the public FTP server without much prompting from us. And with the Authorized Use Policy, I can not just go to RHN and grab that SRPM and use it. If it is not public, we can no longer release it. So, the short answer is, it now takes longer. Thanks, Johnny Hughes Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu via centos.org Oct 28 to CentOS On Friday, October 21, 2011 02:22:26 PM Les Mikesell wrote: Which is explicitly imposing additional restrictions. Which is explicitly prohibited in section 6. I don't see any exceptions relating to what the consequences of those restrictions might be. The RHN AUP simply says that if you redistribute information from RHN you lose access to RHN. It does not restrict your right to
[CentOS] Centos 5.7--desktop icons are now a blank sheet of paper with the .desktop filename and they don't work
Just rebooted my box (switched keyboards, and since it's a PS/2 keyboard, it needs to be done at poweroff) and when it came back up, (almost) all the desktop icons I've created (as distinct from the ones that came with the system) now don't display correctly. Instead of the graphic assigned to each, it's just a picture of a blank sheet of paper with the corner folded over, and the icon text is the name of the .desktop file that defines the particular item. worse, when I click one, they don't work... I get a popup window containing this text (when attempting to fire up a local rebuild of Audacity, or the appropriate name when attempting to use one of the other ones): The filename Audacity (local build).desktop indicates that this file is of type desktop document. The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type desktop configuration file. If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system. Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for desktop configuration file, then open the file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a specific application for the file. I don't really know what settings could have changed, but the ownership and permissions look reasonable to me: the files in my ~/Desktop folder look like this: $ ls -l total 88 -rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex 305 Jul 9 16:15 Audacity (local build).desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 fredex fredex 859 May 22 16:24 bar-008d741c23.desktop -rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex 376 Nov 11 09:16 Firefox-4.desktop -rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex 311 Nov 10 14:00 fred's desktop on cibf-fred1pc.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 fredex fredex 442 May 27 19:53 gegl-00efc0b78f.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 fredex fredex 981 Oct 30 2009 greasy-00f830171b.desktop -rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex 288 Jun 25 2010 Osmos.desktop -rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex 369 Jul 10 23:14 Pysol-FC.desktop -rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex 378 Feb 22 2011 quadra.desktop drwxrwxr-x 2 fredex fredex 4096 Jan 27 2011 radio stations -rw-rw-r-- 1 fredex fredex 359 May 24 21:14 razorsql.desktop and the Desktop folder's permissions are: $ ls -ld Desktop drwxr-xr-x 3 fredex fredex 4096 Oct 25 15:03 Desktop note that the Desktop folder contains a subdirectory named radio stations, and that its representation on the desktop looks correct. but when I click on it to open up that folder, all its contents are also broken in the same way. Anybody got any clues? -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord is like a strong tower. Those who do what is right can run to him for safety. --- Proverbs 18:10 (niv) - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Basically from what I gather, while Red Hat cannot restrict access to sources, they can restrict access to binaries. And since CentOS has a goal of binary compatibility with upstream, they are essentially left trying to hit an unknown target. But (now I'm stretching my limited knowledge even further) Scientific does not have this restriction since they are less concerned about exact binary compat. You are stretching your knowledge to a wrong direction :) Both CentOS and Scientific Linux *aim* at 100% binary compatibility and they are both doing their best toward that goal. However, neither is perfect. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-November/119250.html Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)
Both CentOS and Scientific Linux *aim* at 100% binary compatibility and they are both doing their best toward that goal. However, neither is perfect. That's interesting. So how is it they've managed to come out with 6.1 (and so long ago at that)? -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of In Defense of Food ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos v3.3 CD 2
Hi Jonathan, wouldst thou be willing to divulge thy mail client and/or plugin which spake in such a manner? thou shalt read the headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/2005 Thunderbird/8.0 Peter. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos