Re: [CentOS-virt] Xen 4.4.1-rc1+ rebase
Johhny / KB -- Ping? -George On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:28 PM, George Dunlap dunl...@umich.edu wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:21 PM, George Dunlap dunl...@umich.edu wrote: I've got a first cut of the rebase here: git://github.com/gwd/sig-virt-xen out/update-4.4.1-rc1-ee81dda-RFC To build it, you'll need to download the polarssl tarball: http://xenbits.xen.org/xen-extfiles/polarssl-1.1.4-gpl.tgz And you'll need a tarball based on (unfortunately) a private tree, which you can find here: git://github.com/gwd/xen base/update-4.4.1-rc1-ee81dda-RFC This branch is based on upstream ee81dda (the current staging-4.4), with an additional two backported commits. To reproduce the tarball, checkout the above branch, then: ./configure make -C tools qemu-xen-dir-find make -C tools qemu-xen-traditional-find make src-tarball *sigh* This is wrong. It should be: tools/misc/mktarball $PWD If you do the above command, you'll end up with a release-looking tarball, rather than one with the git commit ID in the name. Also NB, two things: * The src-tarball build target (and the mktarball script) is not available in the normal 4.4 tree; it's a draft of a bit of functionality I'm in the process if pushing upstream. It may or may not end up backported to 4.4.1. * If you've already cloned the qemu trees, you need to run make -C tools qemu-xen-dir-force-update instead. -George ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-es] no encuentro el archivo eth0 Centos 7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2014 06:01 PM, Fermin Francisco wrote: Que ha pasado con el/los archivos ethx?? les cambiaron de nombre.. busca ifcfg-* ahi debe estar la relación. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTw8/EAAoJEMcLM24mwCb6OrMH/jikXkLNrOZKkRhpTotxxxPb qbsgtTkrfowR+fHWp6r8ac+Ni1uiGIbGdAZSJUiWpKiAlwlK1PT4WY8xZHSLZMXM EsZGZim6qvYGstbu6KtqcWg89FfXXB7/zvuYmlUQjEgeEAeyOq4XZ76UnDKm1xDs Sf0LANbbhY0ojyV3pslWjB0rX947zYcQ1WN565Q8SPjoStqjFnzJ2lHnUxOpap5n vPqquYdtr6XZOGvOeSVfalyTJaZsHTBMnH8KmuCEU3uoADFua1kolkZw66S8V6+D 2vFGoYKF7vZQDuLzbiis7wsKyhmuZ/IFnrv27iDme04P3KPkNLB3hzTVL4Bj+1w= =ytB4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Ping o conexion ssh a ip en red NAT
Buenas noches!! Mi interrogante es la siguiente: Como puedo yo hacer ping o conectarme a una IP en una red NAT?? Maquina virtual: NAT ip 10.0.2.15 Maquina real: ip 10.0.0.6 Desde la maquina virtual puedo hacer ping a la direccion IP 10.0.0.6 y me responde bien. Pero desde la maquina real no puedo hacer ping, ni conectarme a la maquina virtual, Como puedo hacer un simpe ping normal o conectarme mediante ssh a la direccion IP 10.0.2.15?? JOSE FERMIN ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS] Cloud Images
Any chance of a refresh of the cloud image (http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/) and including cloud-init and the repos ? With this, we can start asking our end users to give CentOS 7 a spin on the cloud.. Thanks Tim ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS 7 Cloudstack templates
Hi, Just letting everyone know I've made some CentOS 7 templates for Cloudstack available at: http://dl.openvm.eu/cloudstack/centos/vanilla/7/x86_64/ Any feedback welcome. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cloud Images
Hi Tim On 07/14/2014 07:27 AM, Tim Bell wrote: Any chance of a refresh of the cloud image (http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/) and including cloud-init and the repos ? With this, we can start asking our end users to give CentOS 7 a spin on the cloud.. Coming in the next few days, the big blocker has been working out what andhowto handle cloud-init, and I think there is some clarity on that now. Will post to the centos-devel list with a few options ( and we might just execute on all of them ). - KB -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Command Line Commands Aren't Working.....
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:48:26AM -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 07/13/2014 10:07 PM, Fred Smith wrote: Well it's like I had said before.when the USB boots up, it doesn't give me any type of real options except to install the OSor Test the media and THEN install the os. when I select Install the OS it automatically scrolls through a whole lot of lines of code and things its doing...and then drops me to the # command prompt. Maybe I'll download the CD/DVD iso and try again with the LiveUSB creator. It sounds as if it's not a live USB. Is there a live CD or USB for CentOS 7 yet? As for it dropping you to a root prompt, not sure what's goin on there. For me, when I used the netinstall, after various and sundry things, it opens to an Anaconda (the GUI installer) window and begins to install (after waiting for various input from me.) If there is less than a certain amount of memory, it will then go through the crippled text install which doesn't allow you to do any customization unless you've set up a kickstart file. So, if it's just dropping to a root prompt and not doing very much, something might be broken. However, a description, even if brief, of the things it's doing might be useful. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos plus kernel - moving it in and back out again
On 2014-07-12 09:26, Frank Cox wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:19:22 -0600 Frank Cox wrote: My main computer has a Logitech wireless mouse that's likely affected by the bug, though I haven't tried it yet to verify that. My Logitech wireless mouse model M510 is NOT affected by this bug. I just plugged it into my laptop that I have Centos 7 installed on, and it works perfectly. M510 is as affected as anything else with the tiny unified receiver. It's a race condition though, so sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's more likely to happen on boot, I think. From what I can recall of the Fedora days with the relevant kernels, un- and re-plugging the receiver or un- and re-loading the module would typically get things working again, though it could take a few attempts. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing CentOS-7 but keeping CentOS-6.5
On 07/13/2014 01:01 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm having trouble installing CentOS-7 on my HP MicroServer. I've tried with KDE LiveCD and Netinstall (both on USB sticks), and now I'm going to try with the DVD ISO. But I want to be quite sure I can return to CentOS-6.5 if things go wrong, so I'm wondering what precisely I need to copy (eg the MBR and a bit more) so that I could get back to things as they were. Is this documented anywhere? Actually, both failed installations did give a boot menu including the old 6.5 system, but I'm afraid sometime this might not work, and I will be cut off from the world. Incidentally, the Repair option on the netinstall system was not as useful as I expected, or perhaps I don't know how to use it properly. It entered the new CentOS-7 system OK on chroot-ing, even mounting other partitions listed in /etc/fstab . And I was able to bring up the interfaces with service network restart. But although I ran grub2-install , this did not help matters. Is there anything else one can do after chrooting into a system? Eg, can one boot the system in any way? Any advice or suggestions gratefully received. You asked what to keep to be able to boot C6. From your narrative, it seems that the legacy grub boot for C6 is already gone (blown away) by your C7 install. I haven't figured out enough about grub2 to be able to tell you how to preserve your current grub2 configuration, but here are some possible ways to keep C6 accessible: 1. The Super Grub2 Disk from http://www.supergrubdisk.org seems to be pretty good at finding any and all possibilities for booting using new and old versions of grub. 2. If you are reinstalling into exactly the same location as your previous C7 attempts (same devices for boot and root), just don't let the installer update the boot information. Since you know it boots both versions now, it should still boot both versions after the install. Not knowing what your installation problem is, I can't tell (and you may not be able to tell either) if anything is wrong with your boot information, or if that is OK. 3. From C3, install legacy grub onto a USB stick, which would allow you to boot directly to C6, without any requirement for anything to be on a hard drive. 4. It is also possible to set up a CD that will boot your computer, but I don't remember the details of that. Hope one of these, or something someone else chimes in, will help you. Also hope you get the C7 install figured out. So far I have only done it from DVD, and those went well for me. Ted Miller Elkhart, IN, USA ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On 07/12/2014 11:08 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: [I wasn't going to reply; but after thinking about it for quite a while, there are a few points here that deserve just a bit of level-headed attention.] On 07/11/2014 10:53 AM, David G. Miller wrote: Les Mikesell lesmikesell@... writes: Or, if you want things to respawn, the original init handled that very nicely via inittab. Replying to Les' comment: the original inittab respawn method is completely brain-dead, blindly respawning without any thought for what conditions might need to be checked, etc. Just pointing out one of several approaches to respawning a daemon without the overhead of systemd. Replying to David: So you'd prefer the overhead of cron plus shells plus a bit of arcane syntax? When I first replied to this crontab line, I honestly thought you were being tongue-in-cheek. I have a similar sort of kluge in place, on a CentOS 6 system at a client, that uses the autossh package to hold open ssh reverse tunnels; reverse tunnels are great when the client's machine is behind a known-to-change-frequently dynamic address. I went with this approach since the problem is not with radvd or its init script but with my IPv6 tunnel provider. Sounds like something that systemd's concept of process dependencies could solve for you with an easier (and non-executable) syntax. Systemd provides an 'OnFailure' directive that allows you to do whatever you'd like upon failure of an particular 'unit.' That sort of mechanism might allow you to implement the process equivalent of Cisco IOS' IP SLA's. (You could mount /etc (and /var) noexec and have /usr and friends mounted read-only, even.) I wanted something that didn't require modifying any of the installed bits. This is why sysadmin configs for systemd are in /etc and the OS-supplied configs are in /usr. Your /etc 'units' to systemd will override the OS installed ones, and are all collected together in one well-defined and standard place. This approach also means that updates to radvd and friends don't overwrite my modifications. This is why sysadmin configs for systemd are in /etc and the OS-supplied configs are in /usr. Your /etc 'units' for systemd will not be touched by the updates to the OS-supplied ones. Just playing with the IPv6 stuff so having it down for up to five minutes also isn't a problem. The source of the problem goes away when my ISP provides IPv6 and I don't need to tunnel IPv6 in IPv4 anymore. If you can figure out IPv6 then systemd should be no sweat. I look at systemd as being yet another nuclear fly swatter. Overkill for simple problems that can and should be be addressed at the problem without a sweeping, system level change. I have done all of the various init styles at various times, so I make this statement having 27 years of experience dealing with Unix-like systems (I won't bore anyone with the list): in my quick perusal of systemd and its documentation, I'm cautiously optimistic that maybe finally we have something that a sysadmin can really make sing. Time will tell, of course, whether systemd actually addresses the core problems or not; we've already had one round of an init replacement, Upstart, that didn't succeed in fully addressing the core problems (but will be with us until 2020 as part of EL6). And I always reserve the right to be wrong. But traditional SystemV init last appears in EL5, which, while it is still supported until 2017, is two major versions old at this point. And in case you missed the announcement from Red Hat, EL5.11 is the last minor version update of EL5, with subsequent updates being released as they come and not batched into point releases. (I now know my last targeted version for IA64 rebuilding, which is good.as long as I can put in some automation to grab updates from then on). Hi Lamar, Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves Managed Services, LLC.* Director of Technology Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.cl...@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 07:18 -0500, William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? There is an old English saying Never put all your eggs in the same basket. If systemd has a bug or is exploited, because it does so many different things, the resulting damage to a working system is potentially significantly greater than if systemd did less functions. As previously stated by JH, its in RH so its in Centos. We have to accept it or go elsewhere. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
Like OpenSSL ? On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits mark Sigh, nothing like a zealot. ALL OS’s have vulns and exploits, no matter what you decide to believe. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On 07/14/2014 11:26 AM, William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits mark Sigh, nothing like a zealot. ALL OS's have vulns and exploits, no matter what you decide to believe. Sigh, nothing like someone who is in a constant state of deniability. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves Managed Services, LLC.* Director of Technology Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.cl...@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Cemtos 6 - rc.local does not run
Is there a special step for this? -- Cosme Corrêa On Jul 8, 2014 4:32 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 11:10 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: On 7/8/2014 10:36 AM, Always Learning wrote: 75 baud on a TTY (clank, clank, clank, ding, thud as the printer head returned to the beginning of the line) and an amazingly fast speed of 300 baud on the up-market Terminet (? spelling). Perhaps the speeds were 300 and 1,200 baud? It was a long time ago. actual Teletype KSR/ASR 33 kind of machines were 110 baud (10 cps, as they used 2 stop bits) 110 baud definitely rings a bell. I saw my first Teletype in 1967/1968 at Scotland's National Engineering Laboratory (NEL). Chugging away, it seemed to be an exciting example of real computing - and it wasn't a bit like punched cards. 'Ey! What'cho got 'gainst punch cards? mark except the card punch in the lab that punched *other* than what it printed, that once ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Disable auto window maximize
Job #1 for me with CentOS 7 is to disable the automatic window maximization. Some googling found this command: $ gsettings set org.gnome.mutter auto-maximize false No such schema 'org.gnome.mutter' and this: $ gsettings set orh.gnome.shell.overrides edge-tiling false but that had no visible effect. I couldn't find anything under Applications-documentation and I didn't see anything in the on-line GNOME help manual. I looked under Applications-System Tools and Applications-Utilities. I found the Tweak Tool but didn't see anything in there either. Can someone point me to some documentation on how to do this? Thanks, Steve ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] latest freeIPA on CentOS
We're looking to run freeipa on CentOS-6.5. It seems the version available for 6.5 is 3.0, whereas the latest 3.x is 3.3.5 (available in F19 20). And now I see 4.0 was just released and will be in F21 (with support for native OTP-based 2FA!). Has anyone attempted rebuilds against the F19/20 3.3.5 RPMS for CentOS? Given the dependency chain, is it worth going down this rabbit hole? Otherwise, is everyone who is running CentOS and FreeIPA pretty much using 3.0? Since it's a new build, I was hoping we could start with the latest stable, but not ready yet to run RHEL7/CentOS7 or Fedora in our environment. johnny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] latest freeIPA on CentOS
Am Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:47:32 -0400 schrieb Johnny Tan johnnyd...@gmail.com: We're looking to run freeipa on CentOS-6.5. It seems the version available for 6.5 is 3.0, whereas the latest 3.x is 3.3.5 (available in F19 20). And now I see 4.0 was just released and will be in F21 (with support for native OTP-based 2FA!). CentOS7 has 3.3 I don't know if RedHat will backport it to 6.x like they did previously. I think we will start with what is in CentOS 7.0 and see how far we get. We will even buy RHEL-lics for it. I certainly don't want to run Fedora in production - and I don't want to do the backport for such a complicated piece of software myself. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote:
On 07/14/2014 11:26 AM, William Woods wrote:
On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
William Woods wrote:
Please stop top posting.
On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
William Woods wrote:
On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net
wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985
my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be
everything which makes
it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze!
My $.02
+ $ 10.00 :-)
Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ?
Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other
unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server
vulnerabilities
that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how
fast they were admitted, and fixed.
Like OpenSSL ?
I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server
exploits
mark
Sigh, nothing like a zealot. ALL OS's have vulns and exploits, no matter
what you decide to believe.
Sigh, nothing like someone who is in a constant state of deniability.
Ok, I posted last week a question in this list about configuring
two interfaces, one of which being a bridge, to get dhcp and make the
bridge one be the primary one as far as which dns and router to pick.
Using systemd only was my requirement. i.e. using /etc/systemd/system/
instead of /etc/sysconfig/network{,-scripts}.
The replies I got were oh, you can still use
/etc/sysconfig/network{,-scripts} with systemd *for now*, so you can
kludge it together. What's the point then? systemd is supposed to
handle something as simple as two little interfaces; I am not even
talking about vlans and virtual interfaces. I know how to do it using
/etc/sysconfig/network{,-scripts}, but that is besides the point. If
systemd is the Way of the Future, I should be able to do this simple
configuration in it in CentOS 7. After all, with CentOS 7, systemd is
the de facto way to do things, right?
I do sound annoyed because I am: I keep hearing about how systemd is
going to liberate us from the Old White Man way of doing things, and
I am willing to be the devil's advocate here for I plan on using Linux
in the foreseeable future. But, if it cannot deliver me two little
interfaces up and running -- not asking for cookies and a massage but
would not turn them down if I get my interfaces up and happy -- I do
have an issue.
So, for those who know the Way of The systemd, please show me here or
in my thread (so we keep this one on-topic) how to do that in a
completely systemd-networkd way (and why what I wrote is boink). Is
that too much to ask?
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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits mark Are you really trying to win the thread with but omg windows!? All software is swiss cheese, the only really secure software is turned off. Windows is no more or less secure than anything else out there. OpenSSL is sadly an excellent example of that. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Jul 14, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Andrew Wyatt and...@fuduntu.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits mark Are you really trying to win the thread with but omg windows!? All software is swiss cheese, the only really secure software is turned off. Windows is no more or less secure than anything else out there. OpenSSL is sadly an excellent example of that. I was going to bring up OpenSSL but…..yea that. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
Steve Clark wrote: On 07/14/2014 11:26 AM, William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits Sigh, nothing like a zealot. ALL OS's have vulns and exploits, no matter what you decide to believe. Sigh, nothing like someone who is in a constant state of deniability. Replying to this, because I saw a reply from him, but there was no new content, for some reason. Anyway, he also seems determined to see it all as black and white, rather than looking at the *much* larger set of bugs and vulnerabilities that Windows Server has had than any version of 'Nix. Sure, we have some... but a *lot* fewer, and overwhelmingly far less serious. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Clark wrote: On 07/14/2014 11:26 AM, William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits Sigh, nothing like a zealot. ALL OS's have vulns and exploits, no matter what you decide to believe. Sigh, nothing like someone who is in a constant state of deniability. Replying to this, because I saw a reply from him, but there was no new content, for some reason. Anyway, he also seems determined to see it all as black and white, rather than looking at the *much* larger set of bugs and vulnerabilities that Windows Server has had than any version of 'Nix. Sure, we have some... but a *lot* fewer, and overwhelmingly far less serious. mark Yup, overwhelmingly less serious. http://heartbleed.com/ Oh, wait. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
Andrew Wyatt wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Clark wrote: On 07/14/2014 11:26 AM, William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits Sigh, nothing like a zealot. ALL OS's have vulns and exploits, no matter what you decide to believe. Sigh, nothing like someone who is in a constant state of deniability. Replying to this, because I saw a reply from him, but there was no new content, for some reason. Anyway, he also seems determined to see it all as black and white, rather than looking at the *much* larger set of bugs and vulnerabilities that Windows Server has had than any version of 'Nix. Sure, we have some... but a *lot* fewer, and overwhelmingly far less serious. Yup, overwhelmingly less serious. http://heartbleed.com/ Oh, wait. This is *pointless*. Point to something *OTHER* than heartbleed. And as this is the CentOS list, please note that 5.x was *not* affected at all. Or does your attention span not go back more than a couple of months? mark, getting annoyed ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Andrew Wyatt wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:38 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Clark wrote: On 07/14/2014 11:26 AM, William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:19 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: Please stop top posting. On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be everything which makes it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! My $.02 + $ 10.00 :-) Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? Well... we know that 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server vulnerabilities that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how fast they were admitted, and fixed. Like OpenSSL ? I suggest you google with the following search criteria: windows server exploits Sigh, nothing like a zealot. ALL OS's have vulns and exploits, no matter what you decide to believe. Sigh, nothing like someone who is in a constant state of deniability. Replying to this, because I saw a reply from him, but there was no new content, for some reason. Anyway, he also seems determined to see it all as black and white, rather than looking at the *much* larger set of bugs and vulnerabilities that Windows Server has had than any version of 'Nix. Sure, we have some... but a *lot* fewer, and overwhelmingly far less serious. Yup, overwhelmingly less serious. http://heartbleed.com/ Oh, wait. This is *pointless*. Point to something *OTHER* than heartbleed. And as this is the CentOS list, please note that 5.x was *not* affected at all. Or does your attention span not go back more than a couple of months? mark, getting annoyed Ok, older. I can do that. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962792 Have another one. Doesn't matter that 5.x wasn't affected at all by Heartbleed, 5.x is ancient and had its own set of flaws over its lifecycle. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Andrew Wyatt and...@fuduntu.org wrote: Anyway, he also seems determined to see it all as black and white, rather than looking at the *much* larger set of bugs and vulnerabilities that Windows Server has had than any version of 'Nix. Sure, we have some... but a *lot* fewer, and overwhelmingly far less serious. mark Yup, overwhelmingly less serious. http://heartbleed.com/ Oh, wait. Openssl doesn't have much to do with Unix/linux. It is just one of a bazillion application level programs that you might run. Are you going to include all bugs in all possible windows apps in your security comparison? But init/upstart/systemd are very special things in the unix/linux ecosystem. They become the parent process of everything else. For everything else, the only way to create a process is fork(), with it's forced inheritance of environment and security contexts. In any case, giant monolithic programs that try to do everything sometimes become become better than a toolbox, but it tends to be rare. First, it takes years to fix the worst of the bugs - but maybe that has already happened in fedora... And after that it is an improvement only if the designers really did anticipate every possible need. Otherwise the old unix philosophy that processes are cheap - if you need another one to do something, use it - is still in play. If you need something to track how many times something has been respawned or to check/clean related things at startup/restart you'll probably still need a shell there anyway. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Andrew Wyatt and...@fuduntu.org wrote: Anyway, he also seems determined to see it all as black and white, rather than looking at the *much* larger set of bugs and vulnerabilities that Windows Server has had than any version of 'Nix. Sure, we have some... but a *lot* fewer, and overwhelmingly far less serious. mark Yup, overwhelmingly less serious. http://heartbleed.com/ Oh, wait. Openssl doesn't have much to do with Unix/linux. It is just one of a bazillion application level programs that you might run. Are you going to include all bugs in all possible windows apps in your security comparison? OpenSSL is a library, not an application, but I understand where you're going with this. No you wouldn't include all Windows apps, but you would include anything that's immediately available to Windows. Same principle here. We wouldn't measure Oracle, like we wouldn't SQL server but we would OpenSSL because it's available in the repo and not third party. But init/upstart/systemd are very special things in the unix/linux ecosystem. They become the parent process of everything else. For everything else, the only way to create a process is fork(), with it's forced inheritance of environment and security contexts. Yes, they sure are, you're right about that. Without an init (of any kind), you only have a kernel. You don't have mounted filesystems, or anything else. In any case, giant monolithic programs that try to do everything sometimes become become better than a toolbox, but it tends to be rare. First, it takes years to fix the worst of the bugs - but maybe that has already happened in fedora... And after that it is an improvement only if the designers really did anticipate every possible need. Otherwise the old unix philosophy that processes are cheap - if you need another one to do something, use it - is still in play. If you need something to track how many times something has been respawned or to check/clean related things at startup/restart you'll probably still need a shell there anyway. It's very rare. I wasn't speaking to this though in this instance, I was only speaking to Windows security not being any better or worse than anything else. Security is only as good as your admins and your implementation. It's also an on-going process on any platform. I was just pointing out that it's beyond silly to because windows is less secure!. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 6 - rc.local does not run
On 07/14/2014 10:39 AM, Cosme Corrêa wrote: Is there a special step for this? systemctl enable rc-local.service -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Changing gdm background
Anyone know how to do $SUBJECT? I've tried running both gnome-control- center and dconf as the gdm user, but neither one had any effect. TIA -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 6 - rc.local does not run
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:27:47PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 07/14/2014 10:39 AM, Cosme Corrêa wrote: Is there a special step for this? systemctl enable rc-local.service This shouldn't be required. The rc-local.service should automatically start in the multi-user.target if the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local exists, and is executable. Make sure you're using /etc/rc.d/rc.local and not /etc/rc.local. There should already be a compatibility symlink (same as in EL6). -- Jonathan Billings billi...@negate.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 6 - rc.local does not run
On 07/14/2014 12:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 14.07.2014 19:27, schrieb Ian Pilcher: On 07/14/2014 10:39 AM, Cosme Corrêa wrote: Is there a special step for this? systemctl enable rc-local.service on *CentOS 6* let me hear from where you get systemd there Whoops! Missed that. -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 11:19 -0500, Andrew Wyatt wrote: Windows is no more or less secure than anything else out there. Not with so many of Windoze world-wide users getting viruses all the time. Centos is inherently more secure than Windoze. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 12:02 -0500, Andrew Wyatt wrote: 5.x is ancient and had its own set of flaws over its lifecycle. 1/3 of my servers use C 5.10, 2/3 use C 6.5. I use C 5.10 as my individual development server and desktop. C 5 works well for me. Centos 5 Fan :-) -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] latest freeIPA on CentOS
2014-07-14 17:57 GMT+02:00 Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de: CentOS7 has 3.3 I don't know if RedHat will backport it to 6.x like they did previously. I think we will start with what is in CentOS 7.0 and see how far we get. We will even buy RHEL-lics for it. I certainly don't want to run Fedora in production - and I don't want to do the backport for such a complicated piece of software myself. RH will *not* do a backport of 3.3 to RHEL 6.x. Alexander Bokovoy (from Red Hat) on the freeipa-users list (feb. 17): RHEL 6.x lacks many of the dependencies required for IPA 3.3. Newer MIT Kerberos (with API and ABI change for KDC database driver and many other changes required for trusts and two-factor authentication), newer Dogtag which relies on several dozens of Java packages and newer tomcat, systemd (we use socket activation and tmpfiles.d a lot), newer SSSD. Kerberos ccache stored in the kernel space (KEYRING ccache type) requires changes at kernel level which are also needed for kerberized NFSv4 for trusts as AD users have large Kerebros tickets when they are members of many groups and so on. - Jitse ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 12:02 -0500, Andrew Wyatt wrote:
5.x is ancient and had its own set of flaws over its lifecycle.
1/3 of my servers use C 5.10, 2/3 use C 6.5. I use C 5.10 as my
individual development server and desktop.
C 5 works well for me.
Centos 5 Fan :-)
Ancient ≠ bad. :)
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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 12:02 -0500, Andrew Wyatt wrote: 5.x is ancient and had its own set of flaws over its lifecycle. 1/3 of my servers use C 5.10, 2/3 use C 6.5. I use C 5.10 as my individual development server and desktop. C 5 works well for me. Centos 5 Fan :-) That is probably the most pointless comment you have made yet. Just because you use something, and you are a fan does not mean anything in the context of the discussion. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] latest freeIPA on CentOS
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Jitse Klomp jitsekl...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly don't want to run Fedora in production - and I don't want to do the backport for such a complicated piece of software myself. RH will *not* do a backport of 3.3 to RHEL 6.x. Alexander Bokovoy (from Red Hat) on the freeipa-users list (feb. 17): RHEL 6.x lacks many of the dependencies required for IPA 3.3. Newer MIT Kerberos (with API and ABI change for KDC database driver and many other changes required for trusts and two-factor authentication), newer Dogtag which relies on several dozens of Java packages and newer tomcat, systemd (we use socket activation and tmpfiles.d a lot), newer SSSD. Kerberos ccache stored in the kernel space (KEYRING ccache type) requires changes at kernel level which are also needed for kerberized NFSv4 for trusts as AD users have large Kerebros tickets when they are members of many groups and so on. Isn't that the sort of thing that 'software collections' are intended to provide? It would be encouraging to see something actually built on top of them. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:05 PM, William Woods wood...@gmail.com wrote: 1/3 of my servers use C 5.10, 2/3 use C 6.5. I use C 5.10 as my individual development server and desktop. C 5 works well for me. Centos 5 Fan :-) That is probably the most pointless comment you have made yet. Just because you use something, and you are a fan does not mean anything in the context of the discussion. On the contrary - it means his services start just fine without systemd, and the best systemd is going to do is start them the same way - that is, not be an improvement even after someone wastes the time to rewrite the startup code. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changing gdm background
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:32:41PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: Anyone know how to do $SUBJECT? I've tried running both gnome-control- center and dconf as the gdm user, but neither one had any effect. TIA depends on which Centos you're talking about. If C7, with Gnome 3, here's one URL a little searching turned up: http://smashingweb.info/change-the-background-of-gnome-3-gdm-login-screen/ or http://lukewickstead.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/how-to-change-background-gdm-3-and-grub-2-themes-in-debian-squeeze/ -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good. - Proverbs 15:3 (niv) - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 14:05 -0500, William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: C 5 works well for me. Centos 5 Fan :-) That is probably the most pointless comment you have made yet. Just because you use something, and you are a fan does not mean anything in the context of the discussion. On the contrary it means a discerning user like me, never adverse to complaining, is satisfied with the quality product C 5 undoubtedly is. And satisfied sufficiently to use it instead of C6 and C7. Elsewhere you subsequently mentioned, after your apparently derogatory remark about C5 being ancient that ancient does not mean bad. I concur. Have a nice day. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 11:19 -0500, Andrew Wyatt wrote: Windows is no more or less secure than anything else out there. That is a false statement. Not with so many of Windoze world-wide users getting viruses all the time. Centos is inherently more secure than Windoze. Yup. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 11:19 -0500, Andrew Wyatt wrote: Windows is no more or less secure than anything else out there. Not with so many of Windoze world-wide users getting viruses all the time. Centos is inherently more secure than Windoze. I would argue that also has to do with the average windows. You know, the human engineering part of being attacked (Your computer is infected! The red blinking light says so! Click here to install our 'sheep-me' program, making sure to run it as an admin user!) -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On 7/14/2014 12:48 PM, Always Learning wrote: On the contrary it means a discerning user like me, never adverse to complaining, is satisfied with the quality product C 5 undoubtedly is. And satisfied sufficiently to use it instead of C6 and C7. perhaps you should change your username from Always Learning, as it appears you've decided to stop as of about 5 years ago. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] latest freeIPA on CentOS
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jitse Klomp jitsekl...@gmail.com wrote: RH will *not* do a backport of 3.3 to RHEL 6.x. Alexander Bokovoy (from Red Hat) on the freeipa-users list (feb. 17): RHEL 6.x lacks many of the dependencies required for IPA 3.3. Newer MIT Kerberos (with API and ABI change for KDC database driver and many other changes required for trusts and two-factor authentication), newer Dogtag which relies on several dozens of Java packages and newer tomcat, systemd (we use socket activation and tmpfiles.d a lot), newer SSSD. Kerberos ccache stored in the kernel space (KEYRING ccache type) requires changes at kernel level which are also needed for kerberized NFSv4 for trusts as AD users have large Kerebros tickets when they are members of many groups and so on. Thanks for the info. We'll stick with 6.5 / 3.0 for now and hope the upgrade path is not strenuous. From first glances, it seems the manual part is going from 3.1 to something above, with the DogTag change. Hopefully that's the only laborious part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 14:05 -0500, William Woods wrote: On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: C 5 works well for me. Centos 5 Fan :-) That is probably the most pointless comment you have made yet. Just because you use something, and you are a fan does not mean anything in the context of the discussion. On the contrary it means a discerning user like me, never adverse to complaining, is satisfied with the quality product C 5 undoubtedly is. And satisfied sufficiently to use it instead of C6 and C7. Elsewhere you subsequently mentioned, after your apparently derogatory remark about C5 being ancient that ancient does not mean bad. I concur. Have a nice day. William didn't say that it was ancient, I did. If you think that 5.x is ancient and had its own set of flaws over its lifecycle is derogatory, it should come as no surprise to us that you've mixed up who you were talking too. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] latest freeIPA on CentOS
Am 14.07.2014 um 21:02 schrieb Jitse Klomp jitsekl...@gmail.com: 2014-07-14 17:57 GMT+02:00 Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de: CentOS7 has 3.3 I don't know if RedHat will backport it to 6.x like they did previously. I think we will start with what is in CentOS 7.0 and see how far we get. We will even buy RHEL-lics for it. I certainly don't want to run Fedora in production - and I don't want to do the backport for such a complicated piece of software myself. RH will *not* do a backport of 3.3 to RHEL 6.x. I was pretty certain about it, too - but I don’t read the free-ipa lists (already too many subscriptions I can barely glance over…). So, thanks for bringing it to everyone’s attention ;-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changing gdm background
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 12:32 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: Anyone know how to do $SUBJECT? I've tried running both gnome-control- center and dconf as the gdm user, but neither one had any effect. TIA Hi, Best way to-do this and one that is reversible if needed. - Open terminal. - Do: 'cd /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme' - Do: 'sudo cp -f noise-texture.png noise-texture.png.orig' - Pick a wallpaper that is 'png' and the same resolution as your screen. - Do: 'sudo cp -f /path_to/my_image.png noise-texture.png' You may need to experiment with the size of the image to match your resolution. To reverse the changes: - Do: 'cd /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme' - Do: 'sudo cp -f noise-texture.png.orig noise-texture.png' - Do: 'sudo rm -f noise-texture.png.orig' Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changing gdm background
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 21:13 +0100, Phil Wyett wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 12:32 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: Anyone know how to do $SUBJECT? I've tried running both gnome-control- center and dconf as the gdm user, but neither one had any effect. TIA Hi, Best way to-do this and one that is reversible if needed. - Open terminal. - Do: 'cd /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme' - Do: 'sudo cp -f noise-texture.png noise-texture.png.orig' - Pick a wallpaper that is 'png' and the same resolution as your screen. - Do: 'sudo cp -f /path_to/my_image.png noise-texture.png' You may need to experiment with the size of the image to match your resolution. To reverse the changes: - Do: 'cd /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme' - Do: 'sudo cp -f noise-texture.png.orig noise-texture.png' - Do: 'sudo rm -f noise-texture.png.orig' Regards Phil Side note: Why I say same resolution as screen is that the noise-texture.png that is used is smaller than the screen and then tiled. If you wished, you could create a funky smaller patterned image that will tile to make for a more consistent background. Hmm... something like a (hint hint) darker blue CentOS inspired look rather than the grey - god who chose drab grey. :-( Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
John R Pierce wrote: On 7/14/2014 12:48 PM, Always Learning wrote: On the contrary it means a discerning user like me, never adverse to complaining, is satisfied with the quality product C 5 undoubtedly is. And satisfied sufficiently to use it instead of C6 and C7. perhaps you should change your username from Always Learning, as it appears you've decided to stop as of about 5 years ago. a) This is rude. b) We have several 5.x servers here. For one, we kept one or two home directory servers at 5.x due to writing to an NFS mounted home directory from a 6.x server could be a literal order of magnitude slower. It took us over a year to find that if we added nobarrier to the filesystems that it was 10% slower. c) We have some production boxes that are 5.10. *YOU* go and tell managers that we're going to take down their production boxes and upgrade them, or were *you* personally going to assure that their budgets would be upped to provide replacement servers that could be built and tested prior to replacement (and note that the last set just got upgraded just before 6.0 came out in '12?)... and this is part of an agency of the US government, and we are *NOT* DOD. Care to talk to your Congresscritters to assure this, if you're a US resident? mark, not sure when I'll go to 7 at home, what with systemd ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Questoin on iptables
I am getting this error... Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. iptables v1.4.7: Couldn't load target `Spamhaus':/lib64/xtables/libipt_Spamhaus.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file yum provides says not found also. CentOS 6.5 x86_64 Thoughts? Thanks, Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On 7/14/2014 1:56 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: c) We have some production boxes that are 5.10.*YOU* go and tell managers that we're going to take down their production boxes and upgrade them, or were*you* personally going to assure that their budgets would be upped to provide replacement servers that could be built and tested prior to replacement (and note that the last set just got upgraded just before 6.0 came out in '12?)... do you have plans to replace/upgrade them prior to the end of maintenance updates circa March 2017 ? btw, 6.0 came out in july 2011 -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Questoin on iptables
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
wrote:
Am 14.07.2014 23:00, schrieb Jerry Geis:
I am getting this error...
Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
iptables v1.4.7: Couldn't load target
`Spamhaus':/lib64/xtables/libipt_Spamhaus.so: cannot open shared object
file: No such file
yum provides says not found also.
CentOS 6.5 x86_64
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
it's obvious that you wrote a wrong iptables rule
what do you image could yum find?
post whatever you did or nobody can help you
I did not send the exact command I used but it is yum
provides /lib64/xtables/libipt_Spamhaus.so
No matches found.
I am using this script to block spam:
#!/bin/bash
IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables
FILE=/tmp/drop.txt
URL=http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/drop.txt;
$IPTABLES -D INPUT -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -D OUTPUT -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -D FORWARD -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -F Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -X Spamhaus
cd /tmp
wget $URL
$IPTABLES -N Spamhaus
blocks=$(cat $FILE | egrep -v '^;' | awk '{ print $1}')
for ipblock in $blocks
do
$IPTABLES -A Spamhaus -s $ipblock -j DROP
done
blocks=$(cat /etc/silentm/firewall_custom.conf | egrep -v '^;' | awk '{
print $1}')
for ipblock in $blocks
do
$IPTABLES -A Spamhaus -s $ipblock -j DROP
done
$IPTABLES -I INPUT -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -I OUTPUT -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -I FORWARD -j Spamhaus
This script then outputs that error about the missing .so
jerry
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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
John R Pierce wrote: On 7/14/2014 1:56 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: c) We have some production boxes that are 5.10.*YOU* go and tell managers that we're going to take down their production boxes and upgrade them, or were*you* personally going to assure that their budgets would be upped to provide replacement servers that could be built and tested prior to replacement (and note that the last set just got upgraded just before 6.0 came out in '12?)... do you have plans to replace/upgrade them prior to the end of maintenance updates circa March 2017 ? Do I? I'm just a sysadmin. Perhaps you should reread the above... or maybe you're not familiar with working in a organizational environment. snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On 07/14/2014 02:03 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 7/14/2014 1:56 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: c) We have some production boxes that are 5.10.*YOU* go and tell managers that we're going to take down their production boxes and upgrade them, or were*you* personally going to assure that their budgets would be upped to provide replacement servers that could be built and tested prior to replacement (and note that the last set just got upgraded just before 6.0 came out in '12?)... do you have plans to replace/upgrade them prior to the end of maintenance updates circa March 2017 ? btw, 6.0 came out in july 2011 This is the US gov he is dealing with. He will end up having to do what congress agrees he can do. When you get laws put forth (fortunately shouted down) that want to repeal Pi because it is irrational? Look at Detroit for how governments like to kick problems down the road until the mudball is too big to kick anymore. Look for an emergency funding request in Feb 2017... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Questoin on iptables
Am 14.07.2014 23:13, schrieb Jerry Geis:
I did not send the exact command I used but it is yum
provides /lib64/xtables/libipt_Spamhaus.so
No matches found.
I am using this script to block spam:
#!/bin/bash
IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables
FILE=/tmp/drop.txt
URL=http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/drop.txt;
$IPTABLES -D INPUT -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -D OUTPUT -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -D FORWARD -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -F Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -X Spamhaus
cd /tmp
wget $URL
$IPTABLES -N Spamhaus
blocks=$(cat $FILE | egrep -v '^;' | awk '{ print $1}')
for ipblock in $blocks
do
$IPTABLES -A Spamhaus -s $ipblock -j DROP
done
blocks=$(cat /etc/silentm/firewall_custom.conf | egrep -v '^;' | awk '{
print $1}')
for ipblock in $blocks
do
$IPTABLES -A Spamhaus -s $ipblock -j DROP
done
$IPTABLES -I INPUT -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -I OUTPUT -j Spamhaus
$IPTABLES -I FORWARD -j Spamhaus
This script then outputs that error about the missing .so
jerry
It means that your script is not correct[1] and by error tries to load a
helper module which does not exist. So fix your script.
[1] cat | grep | awk constructs are far from being elegant.
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[CentOS] List attitude and content
hi folks, Can we please: 1) keep it civil, be polite - if you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the thread, then dont contribute anything 2) Keep it on context, this isnt the place to talk about old hardware stories and personal fluffery like that. This is the CentOS users list, keep content to whats relevant to the CentOS users. Regards -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 12:59 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: On 7/14/2014 12:48 PM, Always Learning wrote: On the contrary it means a discerning user like me, never adverse to complaining, is satisfied with the quality product C 5 undoubtedly is. And satisfied sufficiently to use it instead of C6 and C7. perhaps you should change your username from Always Learning, as it appears you've decided to stop as of about 5 years ago. Optimistically I will continue learning about a wide range of differing subjects until I die, probably in about 10 years or so. I continue to learn new things about C5, and the programmes than run on it, the BSDs, Linux kernel, minor CSS syntaxes. It is fascinating. Next month I hope to enrol in German and Polish evening classes. I would have preferred Norwegian (Bokmal) and Dutch (Nederlands) but the local college don't have them. In November I would like to start a law degree :-) I am never complacent and tomorrow I do the first of the compulsory 3 tests for my motorbike licence (theory and hazard perception, despite riding my bike for the last year as a Learner) - I'm definitely Always Learning and not ashamed to admit it. Centos is clearly a refreshing and invigorating breeze compared to Windoze. Having about 47 years years experience as a computer programmer, I am naturally reticent about systemd - but then every clever and thinking person would be too. I've experienced too many computer problems to trust everything to script kiddies or their grown-up enthusiastic cousins. Have a nice evening. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changing gdm background
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 21:21 +0100, Phil Wyett wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 21:13 +0100, Phil Wyett wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 12:32 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: Anyone know how to do $SUBJECT? I've tried running both gnome-control- center and dconf as the gdm user, but neither one had any effect. TIA Hi, Best way to-do this and one that is reversible if needed. - Open terminal. - Do: 'cd /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme' - Do: 'sudo cp -f noise-texture.png noise-texture.png.orig' - Pick a wallpaper that is 'png' and the same resolution as your screen. - Do: 'sudo cp -f /path_to/my_image.png noise-texture.png' You may need to experiment with the size of the image to match your resolution. To reverse the changes: - Do: 'cd /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme' - Do: 'sudo cp -f noise-texture.png.orig noise-texture.png' - Do: 'sudo rm -f noise-texture.png.orig' Regards Phil Side note: Why I say same resolution as screen is that the noise-texture.png that is used is smaller than the screen and then tiled. If you wished, you could create a funky smaller patterned image that will tile to make for a more consistent background. Hmm... something like a (hint hint) darker blue CentOS inspired look rather than the grey - god who chose drab grey. :-( Regards Phil Ok, I was bored waiting for a database to populate... As a test for the method in this thread after mentioning CentOS blue. http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot.1405375477.png The image used can be grabbed: http://picpaste.com/pics/noise-texture-KjhU2rzp.1405375756.png Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 15:10 -0500, Andrew Wyatt wrote: William didn't say that it was ancient, I did. If you think that 5.x is ancient and had its own set of flaws over its lifecycle is derogatory, it should come as no surprise to us that you've mixed up who you were talking too. I was preoccupied studying for my exam tomorrow. No harm done and my points are valid. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On 7/14/2014 2:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Do I? I'm just a sysadmin. Perhaps you should reread the above... or maybe you're not familiar with working in a organizational environment. I work in a corporation, supporting software development for manufacturing. unsupported hardware/software is retired per corporate policy. I actually get a fair amount of grief from using Centos in my development environment, production uses RHEL under contract (or AIX or Solaris or...) -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On 2014-07-07, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of Microsoft's put everything into the Windows Registry (Win 95 onwards). Has anyone here actually interacted with systemd, and if so could you perhaps provide a writeup of your experiences? I feel like I haven't seen any practical information on systemd in this thread, and I'd like to have that before forming an initial opinion (at which point I'd attempt to interact with it myself in order to form a better informed opinion). --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Questoin on iptables
On 07/15/2014 12:45 AM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: It means that your script is not correct[1] and by error tries to load a helper module which does not exist. So fix your script. [1] cat | grep | awk constructs are far from being elegant. Alexander I think that these are not too bad.. And you can use xargs instead of a for loop. If you have another suggestion you can throw the one-liner here. Eliezer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 03:52:10PM -0700, Keith Keller wrote: On 2014-07-07, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of Microsoft's put everything into the Windows Registry (Win 95 onwards). Has anyone here actually interacted with systemd, and if so could you perhaps provide a writeup of your experiences? I feel like I haven't seen any practical information on systemd in this thread, and I'd like to have that before forming an initial opinion (at which point I'd attempt to interact with it myself in order to form a better informed opinion). I've been using systemd ever since it was introduced in Fedora, and the RHEL7 beta and CentOS7 final since it came out. I could tell you about all the positive and negative experiences I've had. There's been a lot of misinformation posted on this list (such as the Windows Registry reference)[1]. I wouldn't want to make any decisions about systemd based on what I've seen on this list. However, I think you should try it out yourself. I suggest giving it a try in a VM, or try one of the CentOS7 LiveCDs. I was quite hesitant about systemd when I started using it, but it was experience that led me to be able to make good judgements about it. 1. See the systemd myths web page http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html -- Jonathan Billings billi...@negate.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Python Twisted Packages In CentOS 7
I'm currently looking for the package python-twisted-names but seem to be falling short. A quick yum search and a bit of digging appears to indicate that there are quite a few less twisted packages for python in 7 then there is in 6. Is this expected or am I searching in the wrong places? Thank you for the help =) -- --- Alex Marz BBM: 75B6B215 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] List attitude and content
Thank you! On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: hi folks, Can we please: 1) keep it civil, be polite - if you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the thread, then dont contribute anything 2) Keep it on context, this isnt the place to talk about old hardware stories and personal fluffery like that. This is the CentOS users list, keep content to whats relevant to the CentOS users. Regards -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] List attitude and content
+1 -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of hemen.me...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 7:10 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] List attitude and content Thank you! On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: hi folks, Can we please: 1) keep it civil, be polite - if you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the thread, then dont contribute anything 2) Keep it on context, this isnt the place to talk about old hardware stories and personal fluffery like that. This is the CentOS users list, keep content to whats relevant to the CentOS users. Regards -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos This electronic message contains information generated by the USDA solely for the intended recipients. Any unauthorized interception of this message or the use or disclosure of the information it contains may violate the law and subject the violator to civil or criminal penalties. If you believe you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete the email immediately. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] List attitude and content
On 15/07/14 11:17, Nordgren, Bryce L -FS wrote: +1 And this idea of +n'ing comments is annoying as hell! Please read and move on! Having to open up a thread just to find +1 is a waste of time for us all! Cheers, ak. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] List attitude and content
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:44:25 +1000 Anthony K akcen...@anroet.com wrote: Having to open up a thread just to find +1 is a waste of time for us all! +1 // Sorry, couldn't resist... ;-) // Best, :-) Marko ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] pptp client automatically disconnected after some time
Hi, I configured pptp client and it connected successfully. but after sometimes it automatically got disconnected. /var/log/messages : Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l pppd[4725]: pppd 2.4.5 started by root, uid 0 Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l pppd[4725]: Using interface ppp0 Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l pppd[4725]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/2 Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l NetworkManager[852]: info (ppp0): new Generic device (driver: 'unknown' ifindex: 19) Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l NetworkManager[852]: info (ppp0): exported as /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/18 Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l pptp[4727]: anon log[main:pptp.c:333]: The synchronous pptp option is NOT activated Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:254]: Sent control packet type is 1 'Start-Control-Connection-Request' Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:754]: Received Start Control Connection Reply Jul 15 15:29:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:788]: Client connection established. Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:254]: Sent control packet type is 7 'Outgoing-Call-Request' Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:873]: Received Outgoing Call Reply. Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:912]: Outgoing call established (call ID 0, peer's call ID 50663). Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:976]: PPTP_SET_LINK_INFO received from peer_callid 38835 Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:979]: send_accm is , recv_accm is Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon warn[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:982]: Non-zero Async Control Character Maps are not supported! Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pppd[4725]: Warning - secret file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets has world and/or group access Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pppd[4725]: CHAP authentication succeeded Jul 15 15:29:20 ahc151l pppd[4725]: MPPE 128-bit stateless compression enabled Jul 15 15:29:22 ahc151l pppd[4725]: local IP address 192.168.9.106 Jul 15 15:29:22 ahc151l pppd[4725]: remote IP address 192.168.9.100 Jul 15 15:30:01 ahc151l systemd: Starting Session 38 of user root. Jul 15 15:30:01 ahc151l systemd: Started Session 38 of user root. Jul 15 15:30:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Request received. Jul 15 15:30:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:254]: Sent control packet type is 6 'Echo-Reply' Jul 15 15:30:39 ahc151l gnome-session: (gnome-shell:2148): St-CRITICAL **: st_label_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed Jul 15 15:31:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Request received. Jul 15 15:31:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:254]: Sent control packet type is 6 'Echo-Reply' Jul 15 15:32:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Request received. Jul 15 15:32:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:254]: Sent control packet type is 6 'Echo-Reply' Jul 15 15:32:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Reply received. Jul 15 15:33:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Reply received. Jul 15 15:34:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Reply received. Jul 15 15:34:24 ahc151l pptp[4727]: anon log[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:427]: buffering packet 311 (expecting 310, lost or reordered) Jul 15 15:34:38 ahc151l gnome-session: (gnome-shell:2148): St-CRITICAL **: st_label_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed Jul 15 15:35:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Reply received. Jul 15 15:36:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Reply received. Jul 15 15:37:19 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Reply received. Jul 15 15:38:20 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:692]: Echo Reply received. Jul 15 15:38:20 ahc151l pptp[4736]: anon log[logecho:pptp_ctrl.c:694]: no more Echo Reply/Request packets will be reported. Jul 15 15:38:38 ahc151l gnome-session: (gnome-shell:2148): St-CRITICAL **: st_label_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed Jul 15 15:40:01 ahc151l systemd: Starting Session 39 of user root. Jul 15 15:40:01 ahc151l systemd: Started Session 39 of user root. Jul 15 15:42:38 ahc151l gnome-session: (gnome-shell:2148): St-CRITICAL **: st_label_set_text: assertion `text != NULL' failed Jul 15 15:44:21 ahc151l gnome-session: (process:5993): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed Jul 15 15:50:01 ahc151l systemd: Starting Session 40 of user root. Jul 15 15:50:01 ahc151l systemd: Started Session 40 of user root. Jul 15 15:50:37 ahc151l gnome-session: NOTE: child process received `Goodbye', closing down what could be wrong.? I can see some other gnome-session null failed messages and sytemd session 40 of user root. Is there any other issues? I just installed centos 7 64 bit Regards
[CentOS] centos updates and kernel patches
Dear all, Where can I find the latest kernel patches, is there any repository maintained by centos. Please share me the link of the patch repository and rpm updates. Thanks and regards Dilip Kumar B LT Technology Services Ltd www.LntTechservices.comhttp://www.lnttechservices.com/ This Email may contain confidential or privileged information for the intended recipient (s). If you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disseminate the information, notify the sender and delete it from your system. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
On 2014-07-15, Jonathan Billings billi...@negate.org wrote: I've been using systemd ever since it was introduced in Fedora, and the RHEL7 beta and CentOS7 final since it came out. I could tell you about all the positive and negative experiences I've had. I think this could be very useful, especially coming from someone who was initially reluctant (as I and clearly others are). There's been a lot of misinformation posted on this list (such as the Windows Registry reference)[1]. I wouldn't want to make any decisions about systemd based on what I've seen on this list. That's what I was concerned about. :) I certainly would try it for myself first, but if I were to read a lot of people writing I tried to actually use systemd, and it was awful/fine/awesome that would carry some weight. However, I think you should try it out yourself. I suggest giving it a try in a VM, or try one of the CentOS7 LiveCDs. I was quite hesitant about systemd when I started using it, but it was experience that led me to be able to make good judgements about it. 1. See the systemd myths web page http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html In the interest of full disclosure, that page is written by one of the primary authors of systemd, so we shouldn't expect an unbiased opinion. (Not saying it's wrong, only that it's important to understand the perspective an author might have.) --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos updates and kernel patches
On 2014-07-15, Dilip Basavaraju dilip.kum...@lnttechservices.com wrote: Where can I find the latest kernel patches, is there any repository maintained by centos. You should just run yum update or yum update kernel*. The latest released updates are always there. If there's a reason that yum doesn't work for you, you should post that so people can give you a more appropriate solution. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos updates and kernel patches
Hi, I am using centos 6.5 minimal version, some of the updates may not be relevant for my OS. So I need to verify and decide the patches and accordingly need to update my OS. Please is there any way for this? Thanks and regards Dilip Kumar B -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Keith Keller Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:23 AM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] centos updates and kernel patches On 2014-07-15, Dilip Basavaraju dilip.kum...@lnttechservices.com wrote: Where can I find the latest kernel patches, is there any repository maintained by centos. You should just run yum update or yum update kernel*. The latest released updates are always there. If there's a reason that yum doesn't work for you, you should post that so people can give you a more appropriate solution. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos LT Technology Services Ltd www.LntTechservices.comhttp://www.lnttechservices.com/ This Email may contain confidential or privileged information for the intended recipient (s). If you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disseminate the information, notify the sender and delete it from your system. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos updates and kernel patches
On 7/14/2014 10:04 PM, Dilip Basavaraju wrote: I am using centos 6.5 minimal version, some of the updates may not be relevant for my OS. So I need to verify and decide the patches and accordingly need to update my OS. Please is there any way for this? yum update will only update the packages installed on your system, so if you've installed certain packages, then its presumed that any fixes/updates to those packages are relevant. the descriptions of what the various updates fix are documented on redhat's update bulletins. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos updates and kernel patches
On 2014-07-15, Dilip Basavaraju dilip.kum...@lnttechservices.com wrote: I am using centos 6.5 minimal version, some of the updates may not be relevant for my OS. I believe yum update updates only currently-installed packages, so they should all be relevant. So I need to verify and decide the patches and accordingly need to update my OS. Please is there any way for this? yum update also prompts you to confirm the install before proceeding. But as I wrote earlier, yum update kernel* will attempt to update just the kernel packages (and prompt for confirmation before installing). --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
