[CentOS-virt] Issues with Ubuntu 14 as a guest VM, and network throughput..
I have a CentOS 6.5 server running as a host for about a dozen other VM's, and all were running just fine. I had a mix of CentOS, Ubuntu, and FreeBSD VM's running, no problem at all. I then updated the Ubuntu VM's to the newer 14.x release, and that installed a 3.13 linux kernel, and after that (which I didn't notice right at the start) the network throughput outbound was abysmal at best. Where before I could move an ISO image in just moments, trying to send out an image from the VM now took forever, with constant timeouts. I tried it on multiple Ubuntu VM's and all have the exact same issue. I thought this is strange, the older 12.x stuff ran just fine, so I thought well the networking is in the kernel so let's back up the kernel. So I grabbed a 3.11 kernel and loaded it, and that was a good improvement, but still no winner, so then I backed off to a 3.8.13 kernel which seemed to be the newest of the 3.8's, and bingo everything started working fine. I then tried a couple Ubuntu machines that were standalone boxes (not VM's) with the newer 3.13 it loads by default, and running independent like that throughput is great, so it's some interaction with the qemu/kvm host. Has anyone run into this, or have any idea, or know of any tunable changes I can make that would make the VM play nice with the newer recommended kernel? I was actually stunned changing kernels made the diff between getting hundreds of megs of throughput on the host, to getting a meg or two if lucky, with constant pauses.At the same time, my other CentOS and FBSD VM's seem to run fine, but then again CentOS sticks with an older kernel it seems. --- Howard ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS] Layer 2 VPN with OpenSSH on CentOS7 not working!
On 29/09/14 15:47, Anthony K wrote: So, what's broken in 7 - or is it that it requires something different? I've just finished installing a CentOS7 virtual machine and guess what - as long as both ends are CentOS7, the tap interface is created as expected! Looks like an incompatibility issue between OpenSSH versions! Cheers, ak. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4
On 29 Sep 2014 05:37, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Looks like the bash exploit tune may still be playing http://www.itnews.com.au/News/396256,further-flaws-render-shellshock-patch-ineffective.aspx Well 7169 is already patched, 7186 isn't in the RH database so it would appear they don't consider that an issue and 7187 is not vulnerable in RHEL. https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7187 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4
On 29 Sep 2014 07:37, James Hogarth james.hoga...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 Sep 2014 05:37, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Looks like the bash exploit tune may still be playing http://www.itnews.com.au/News/396256,further-flaws-render-shellshock-patch-ineffective.aspx Well 7169 is already patched, 7186 isn't in the RH database so it would appear they don't consider that an issue and 7187 is not vulnerable in RHEL. https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7187 Scratch that... I fail at the copy paste challenge... https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7186 Looks like we may find one more bash patch at least yet then. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4
On 9/28/2014 11:39 PM, James Hogarth wrote: https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7186 Looks like we may find one more bash patch at least yet then. per https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1306.htm the fix for 7187 and 7186 is already included in the updated fix that was released a couple days ago, bash-4.1.2-15.el6_5.2 etc. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4
On 09/29/2014 01:46 AM, John R Pierce wrote: On 9/28/2014 11:39 PM, James Hogarth wrote: https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7186 Looks like we may find one more bash patch at least yet then. per https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1306.htm the fix for 7187 and 7186 is already included in the updated fix that was released a couple days ago, bash-4.1.2-15.el6_5.2 etc. That is correct, the latest released update patches all the known issues so far for all 3 Active versions of CentOS (CentOS-5, CentOS-6, CentOS-7) and was released within 21 Minutes after the announcement by RedHat of the RHEL releases. So, for now, we are all caught up. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4
William Woods writes: 5.4 ? really???. 5.4 ? you have a lot of other issues to worry about. Repeating it three times doesn't make an arrogant statement more true. There are corporate environments that cannot upgrade for various reasons. Also, the history and performance of e.g autofs on RHEL/CentOS is truly awful. 5.4 does quite well in this regard, and later releases don't. Obviously, there is no excuse for not upgrading Internet facing systems. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4
On 29 Sep 2014 07:47, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 9/28/2014 11:39 PM, James Hogarth wrote: https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7186 Looks like we may find one more bash patch at least yet then. per https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1306.htm the fix for 7187 and 7186 is already included in the updated fix that was released a couple days ago, bash-4.1.2-15.el6_5.2 etc. Oh cheers John... Somehow my eyes glazed right over the RHSA at the bottom of the CVE page... I blame Monday morning. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Package Bash Redhat 4
Hi, Anybody has bash package to Redhat 4 ? tks ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 17:04 +1300, Cliff Pratt wrote: sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine is Ubuntu). cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail cliffp@ubuntu:~$ file `which sendmail` /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `exim4' C 5.10 C 6.5 file `which sendmail` /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/mta' strings /etc/alternatives/mta |grep exim produces Exim lines. No results for Postfix or for Sendmail. Thanks. I learned something new today. Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Package Bash Redhat 4
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:33:08AM -0200, Eduardo Augusto Pinto wrote: Hi, Anybody has bash package to Redhat 4 ? I imagine Red Hat does as they are providing support for EL4 still if you are willing to pay for it. John -- The Special Olympics is to winners as FOX News is to experts. If you show up, you are one. -- Jon Stewart pgphtgh2FyMMM.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Is it safe to go from CentOS6.5 to CentOS 7 at this time
I am looking for opinions and personal experience on CentOS7 for both grid and virtualized web environments. I am currently on CentOS6.5 in a production environment. I am about to add about 50 more servers to my grid and am trying to identify the advantages and disadvantages of going to CentOS7. The good part is, that I have some tolerance for backing out and installing CentOS6.5 if 7 does not work out. I read the comments about what CentOS7 brings but want to make sure that I am not introducing undue risk. Not seen a lot of issues with it. I also have a small private cloud (VMWare esxi) and wanted to know if anyone was using CentOS7 there. The basic question: Should I be holding off a little longer on going to CentOS7 in production? Thanks Dan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is it safe to go from CentOS6.5 to CentOS 7 at this time
*Personally*, I would say no. I would certainly be starting to use it in the lab and non-critical roles, but I will be waiting until ~7.2 before I consider using it in production. This is mainly based on the sheer amount of change that happened in EL7. It's going to take time for bugs to get squashed and for users to get used to the changes. Digimer On 29/09/14 09:56 AM, Dan Hyatt wrote: I am looking for opinions and personal experience on CentOS7 for both grid and virtualized web environments. I am currently on CentOS6.5 in a production environment. I am about to add about 50 more servers to my grid and am trying to identify the advantages and disadvantages of going to CentOS7. The good part is, that I have some tolerance for backing out and installing CentOS6.5 if 7 does not work out. I read the comments about what CentOS7 brings but want to make sure that I am not introducing undue risk. Not seen a lot of issues with it. I also have a small private cloud (VMWare esxi) and wanted to know if anyone was using CentOS7 there. The basic question: Should I be holding off a little longer on going to CentOS7 in production? Thanks Dan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is it safe to go from CentOS6.5 to CentOS 7 at this time
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Dan Hyatt dhy...@dsgmail.wustl.edu wrote: I am looking for opinions and personal experience on CentOS7 for both grid and virtualized web environments. I am currently on CentOS6.5 in a production environment. I am about to add about 50 more servers to my grid and am trying to identify the advantages and disadvantages of going to CentOS7. The good part is, that I have some tolerance for backing out and installing CentOS6.5 if 7 does not work out. I read the comments about what CentOS7 brings but want to make sure that I am not introducing undue risk. Not seen a lot of issues with it. I also have a small private cloud (VMWare esxi) and wanted to know if anyone was using CentOS7 there. The basic question: Should I be holding off a little longer on going to CentOS7 in production? I don't think you'll get a definitive answer for that. There are installation and operational differences that you'll have to learn eventually, and probably the sooner the better. Most application environments won't know the difference. If yours doesn't, I'd go with 7 and perhaps avoid having to re-install in the hardware's lifetime and take advantage of the newer kernel and default xfs filesystem. There's always the possibility of some unexpected version difference but you'll have to deal with that sooner or later anyway. I have a few instances running under ESXi with no surprises. And I've seen a few unexpected hangs on one hardware instance but at this point don't know whether to blame the hardware or software. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Package Bash Redhat 4
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:41 AM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:33:08AM -0200, Eduardo Augusto Pinto wrote: Hi, Anybody has bash package to Redhat 4 ? I imagine Red Hat does as they are providing support for EL4 still if you are willing to pay for it. Or the Oracle version that you can download should work too: https://oss.oracle.com/el4/SRPMS-updates/bash-3.0-27.0.2.el4.src.rpm or the equivalent binary rpm under http://public-yum.oracle.com/repo/EnterpriseLinux/EL4/latest/x86_64/ -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Package Bash Redhat 4
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:54:45AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Or the Oracle version that you can download should work too: https://oss.oracle.com/el4/SRPMS-updates/bash-3.0-27.0.2.el4.src.rpm or the equivalent binary rpm under http://public-yum.oracle.com/repo/EnterpriseLinux/EL4/latest/x86_64/ Or... you could pay Red Hat for support on the EOL release if you want it, you know... supported. El4 went out of standard support on 2/29/2012. If you are still running EL4 and want updates pay for 'em. John -- When good is dumb, evil will always triumph. -- Jeff Atwood, 28 May 2008, Coding Horror Blog, 23 November 2000 pgpMmlKDPbTZ8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Help on setting up a samba domain controller
My current samba domain controller is running ClearOS. But I am migrating to ARM servers (cubieboards) and using RedSleeve for now, and Centos7arm when that gets rolling. The driver is power savings; my ROI just on power is ~15months. So I only run an NT style Domain Controller with XP clients and roaming user profiles. It works, as there are only a few systems here are really just my wife and I. But it is nice for my wife to hop on a laptop at the dinning table and get her same desktop as she has on the den computer. So copying the basic Samba files is rather simple, it seems, but then there is the LDAP setup and the add machine and user scripts. So it gets complex rather quickly. I looked over on the Centos Wiki and did not find any help there, but my search foo has always been weak. So is there a howto I can use to get off the 'everything (and more than I want) done for me' bandwagon and build the basics myself? I figure I can deal with dnsmasq, even though I am a bind kind of guy; the configs look simple. But there is probably a dyndns piece lurking somewhere. NTP I have always done myself. I have even hacked a bit at basic Samba to maintain per user logins. But the ldap will definitely be a new experience... thanks for any pointers (that help me :) ). ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Package Bash Redhat 4
This On Sep 29, 2014, at 10:00 AM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:54:45AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Or the Oracle version that you can download should work too: https://oss.oracle.com/el4/SRPMS-updates/bash-3.0-27.0.2.el4.src.rpm or the equivalent binary rpm under http://public-yum.oracle.com/repo/EnterpriseLinux/EL4/latest/x86_64/ Or... you could pay Red Hat for support on the EOL release if you want it, you know... supported. El4 went out of standard support on 2/29/2012. If you are still running EL4 and want updates pay for 'em. John -- When good is dumb, evil will always triumph. -- Jeff Atwood, 28 May 2008, Coding Horror Blog, 23 November 2000 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4
On 09/29/2014 04:15 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: William Woods writes: 5.4 ? really???. 5.4 ? you have a lot of other issues to worry about. Repeating it three times doesn't make an arrogant statement more true. There are corporate environments that cannot upgrade for various reasons. Also, the history and performance of e.g autofs on RHEL/CentOS is truly awful. 5.4 does quite well in this regard, and later releases don't. ... I read the thread before replying, and didn't see anyone mention that, if one needs an open source stay-on-a-point-release setup, one should investigate Scientific Linux, which does do this. Yes, you can stay on 5.4 and get only the security updates. This is one of the differences between SL and CentOS. (now, they only build for releases where upstream releases sources; thus, if you're on EL4, no updates for you.). The latest shellshock update from SL, for SL 5.4 x86_64 (which would install on C5.4 unmodified, I would imagine), is: ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/54/x86_64/updates/security/bash-3.2-33.el5_11.4.x86_64.rpm For certain scientific applications, there are serious reasons to stay at a point release, and SL supplies to this niche. If I were to need this specific niche here I would run SL at a point release without hesitation. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: I read the thread before replying, and didn't see anyone mention that, if one needs an open source stay-on-a-point-release setup, one should investigate Scientific Linux, which does do this. Yes, you can stay on 5.4 and get only the security updates. This is one of the differences between SL and CentOS. (now, they only build for releases where upstream releases sources; thus, if you're on EL4, no updates for you.). The latest shellshock update from SL, for SL 5.4 x86_64 (which would install on C5.4 unmodified, I would imagine), is: ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/54/x86_64/updates/security/bash-3.2-33.el5_11.4.x86_64.rpm For certain scientific applications, there are serious reasons to stay at a point release, and SL supplies to this niche. If I were to need this specific niche here I would run SL at a point release without hesitation. This is one of the reasons why I run SL on a computer that needs to stay at an earlier version because of certain in-house software. A little more detailed description about how security updates are provided in SL can be found near the bottom of this blog: http://blog.toracat.org/2013/05/install-security-updates-in-rhel/ Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine is Ubuntu). cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail cliffp@ubuntu:~$ file `which sendmail` /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `exim4' C 5.10 C 6.5 file `which sendmail` /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/mta' strings /etc/alternatives/mta |grep exim produces Exim lines. No results for Postfix or for Sendmail. Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have to provide that functionality. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is it safe to go from CentOS6.5 to CentOS 7 at this time
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:46 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: The basic question: Should I be holding off a little longer on going to CentOS7 in production? On the one hand, we're starting to roll it out... *only* on new servers, and the servers we're rolling it out on are *only* fileservers - a couple attached to RAID boxes, and the other two will be attached to RAIDs, but server home directories. I feel that I'd stay with 6.x unless there's a must-have feature. Right now, I'm playing with stuff on those servers - for one, NetworkMangler is *extremely* noisy, and trying to find *full* examples of its configuration file... I've only found *tiny* bits and pieces. I think I got it to log only errors, but the startup was *noisy*, and the documentation leaves something to be desired. Oh, and it enables wireless. On a server. With no wifi. And I don't see any ifcfg-'s to set them to *off*. I really don't like this we'll do everything attitude, esp. when everything is intended for users of laptops And the install, as I think I posted last week, was nasty - if I want anything other than it's let me partition *and* throw LVM on top, it goes to choose disks... and selects *ALL* by default. So there's a bunch of stuff I don't like, and will wait to see if they fix it. You don't _really_ expect any of those things to change do you? I look at it it as more of a question of how long you have to deal with the operational differences among your production systems, which is probably going to be a long and annoying time under the best of circumstances. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Package Bash Redhat 4
Les Mikesell wrote: Or the Oracle version that you can download should work too: https://oss.oracle.com/el4/SRPMS-updates/bash-3.0-27.0.2.el4.src.rpm or the equivalent binary rpm under http://public-yum.oracle.com/repo/EnterpriseLinux/EL4/latest/x86_64/ They now have a more recent version available: bash-3.0-27.0.3.el4.src.rpm James Pearson ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is it safe to go from CentOS6.5 to CentOS 7 at this time
Dan Hyatt wrote: I am looking for opinions and personal experience on CentOS7 for both grid and virtualized web environments. I am currently on CentOS6.5 in a production environment. I am about to add about 50 more servers to my grid and am trying to identify the advantages and disadvantages of going to CentOS7. The good part is, that I have some tolerance for backing out and installing CentOS6.5 if 7 does not work out. I read the comments about what CentOS7 brings but want to make sure that I am not introducing undue risk. Not seen a lot of issues with it. I also have a small private cloud (VMWare esxi) and wanted to know if anyone was using CentOS7 there. The basic question: Should I be holding off a little longer on going to CentOS7 in production? On the one hand, we're starting to roll it out... *only* on new servers, and the servers we're rolling it out on are *only* fileservers - a couple attached to RAID boxes, and the other two will be attached to RAIDs, but server home directories. I feel that I'd stay with 6.x unless there's a must-have feature. Right now, I'm playing with stuff on those servers - for one, NetworkMangler is *extremely* noisy, and trying to find *full* examples of its configuration file... I've only found *tiny* bits and pieces. I think I got it to log only errors, but the startup was *noisy*, and the documentation leaves something to be desired. Oh, and it enables wireless. On a server. With no wifi. And I don't see any ifcfg-'s to set them to *off*. I really don't like this we'll do everything attitude, esp. when everything is intended for users of laptops And the install, as I think I posted last week, was nasty - if I want anything other than it's let me partition *and* throw LVM on top, it goes to choose disks... and selects *ALL* by default. So there's a bunch of stuff I don't like, and will wait to see if they fix it. mark mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Layer 2 VPN with OpenSSH on CentOS7 not working!
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Anthony K akcen...@anroet.com wrote: Hi all. I'm trying to bring an Amazon VM into the LAN by following this guide [0]. However, it appears that OpenSSH on either RHEL7 or CentOS7 is broken as it is not creating tap interface but tun interface. I've tried this on both CentOS5 and CentOS6 and they both work as advertised! Downgrading the OS is not an option! CentOS5/6 gives me: ** tap1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 500 link/ether 9e:9e:44:9e:49:4c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff CentOS7 gives me: tun1: POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST,NOARP mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT qlen 500 link/none In your output, you have both TAP and TUN interfaces ... they are different. Briefly skimming content at the URL you are using as your reference, I see mention of using a TAP interface (which is no the case on your EL7 box). So, what's broken in 7 - or is it that it requires something different? Unless you can prove with further testing that something is actually broken, I expect this is nothing but a configuration error. Per the TUN/TAP comment of mine [0]. TUN is layer3 and TAP is layer2 of the OSI Model. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUN/TAP -- ---~~.~~--- Mike // SilverTip257 // ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is it safe to go from CentOS6.5 to CentOS 7 at this time
On Mon, September 29, 2014 11:02 am, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:46 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: The basic question: Should I be holding off a little longer on going to CentOS7 in production? On the one hand, we're starting to roll it out... *only* on new servers, and the servers we're rolling it out on are *only* fileservers - a couple attached to RAID boxes, and the other two will be attached to RAIDs, but server home directories. I feel that I'd stay with 6.x unless there's a must-have feature. Right now, I'm playing with stuff on those servers - for one, NetworkMangler is *extremely* noisy, and trying to find *full* examples of its configuration file... I've only found *tiny* bits and pieces. I think I got it to log only errors, but the startup was *noisy*, and the documentation leaves something to be desired. Oh, and it enables wireless. On a server. With no wifi. And I don't see any ifcfg-'s to set them to *off*. I really don't like this we'll do everything attitude, esp. when everything is intended for users of laptops And the install, as I think I posted last week, was nasty - if I want anything other than it's let me partition *and* throw LVM on top, it goes to choose disks... and selects *ALL* by default. So there's a bunch of stuff I don't like, and will wait to see if they fix it. You don't _really_ expect any of those things to change do you? I look at it it as more of a question of how long you have to deal with the operational differences among your production systems, which is probably going to be a long and annoying time under the best of circumstances. True, and can't be said better. And that was one (not the main though) reason I migrate to FreeBSD servers whose time came instead of upgrading them to more Desktopish Linux (took me a lot of effort to not repeat here someone's Windoze comparison). I know I have no guarantee, but they (FreeBSD) have good record... Workstations though stay with CentOS (7 now). Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 09/25/2014 12:26 PM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: No packages for EL6 AFAIK, Seamonkey is available in EPEL. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: If this inconvenience's an innocent web user, I have neither ability to detect the inconvenience nor to determine the user's innocence. I understand your hotel analogue. In England many hotel guests use their mobile phones or tablets - not on wifi but on direct radio (mobile telephone) links; each link having a distinctive IP address. If the web hacker is operating through a data centre, then I permanently block, for port 80, the whole of the data centre's known IP block. The alternative is to be a willing victim. It's more a question of why you run the service at all. If blocking people from reaching it doesn't bother you, why not just shut it down? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
I have a mix of CentOS 5, 6, and now 7 servers at work. There are enough of them now that it is starting to make sense for them to get updates from an internal source. I've seen RHN Satellite in years past. It looks like it may be a way to allow Windows admins here (familiar with WSUS) to update Linux boxes. A local repo might be easier to set up, but (as with Spacewalk) it seems like we'd end up with a lot of packages we don't need. A proxy and a sufficiently-large cache might do the trick if the first Linux box to get updates populates the cache which the files the others will need, but I haven't looked into this enough to see if there's even a way that works. How do you all keep a dozen or more Linux boxes updated? Thanks! -- Chris Nothing in this message is intended to make or accept an offer or to form a contract, except that an attachment that is an image of a contract bearing the signature of an officer of our company may be or become a contract. This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, we hereby notify you that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete this message immediately. Thank you. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On Mon, September 29, 2014 12:59 pm, Chris Beattie wrote: Nothing in this message is intended to make or accept an offer or to form a contract, except that an attachment that is an image of a contract bearing the signature of an officer of our company may be or become a contract. This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, we hereby notify you that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete this message immediately. Thank you. I was about to answer the question then all of a sudden my eye caught this footer which offended me, so I decided mention this fact instead of answering question... Valeri PS I never feel obliged to anything that is sent to me in e-mail without me originally soliciting it. All obligations lie purely on the sender. This has always be that way and will always be no matter whether I read your crap or not (sorry, everybody who does not send e-mail with that crap, it is really difficult to hold one's feelings when you just got offended). Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Chris Beattie cbeat...@geninfo.com wrote: I have a mix of CentOS 5, 6, and now 7 servers at work. There are enough of them now that it is starting to make sense for them to get updates from an internal source. I've seen RHN Satellite in years past. It looks like it may be a way to allow Windows admins here (familiar with WSUS) to update Linux boxes. A local repo might be easier to set up, but (as with Spacewalk) it seems like we'd end up with a lot of packages we don't need. A proxy and a sufficiently-large cache might do the trick if the first Linux box to get updates populates the cache which the files the others will need, but I haven't looked into this enough to see if there's even a way that works. How do you all keep a dozen or more Linux boxes updated? I don't think there is a way to do it that doesn't take more human effort than it is worth unless you have limited internet access. It is basically designed not to work. A simple squid proxy with the file size bumped up will work with no extra attention (and be useful for all your internet accesses), but the first dozen or so runs are probably going to pick different mirror URLs instead of reusing the copy you have already cached. You can change the repo mirrorlist entry to a fixed system - but then your updates will break if it is down. Or you can mirror a bunch of stuff you'll never need into your own repo. Or set up some special-case thing that only works for Centos - or maybe even just one version of Centos. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
Chris Beattie wrote: I have a mix of CentOS 5, 6, and now 7 servers at work. There are enough of them now that it is starting to make sense for them to get updates from an internal source. I've seen RHN Satellite in years past. It looks like it may be a way to allow Windows admins here (familiar with WSUS) to update Linux boxes. A local repo might be easier to set up, but (as with Spacewalk) it seems like we'd end up with a lot of packages we don't need. A proxy and a sufficiently-large cache might do the trick if the first Linux box to get updates populates the cache which the files the others will need, but I haven't looked into this enough to see if there's even a way that works. How do you all keep a dozen or more Linux boxes updated? We have over 170 servers and workstations. We use yum update for system stuff. If you really want an internal source, build a repo of your own. I installed Spacewalk in '09. While I was doing it, it went from .3 to .4 or .5 - don't remember. For a dozen or so servers, it's *vastly* more effort to install and configure, and presumably maintain, than you would spend if you just set up an internal repo. Thanks! -- Chris Nothing in this message is intended to make or accept an offer or to form a contract, except that an attachment that is an image of a contract bearing the signature of an officer of our company may be or become a contract. This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, we hereby notify you that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete this message immediately. I agree with Varleri - this is a ludicrously long and extremely pissy postscript. I probably should have joined him in *not* responding, since a) it says may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law, which you posted to a public email list, which is international in scope, and therefore a null and void statement, since it would *only* be applicable to someone who had signed an NDI, and b) you're not offering anyone here to pay for such. mark -- Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) - kate roth-whitworth ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Chris Beattie wrote: I have a mix of CentOS 5, 6, and now 7 servers at work. There are enough of them now that it is starting to make sense for them to get updates from an internal source. I've seen RHN Satellite in years past. It looks like it may be a way to allow Windows admins here (familiar with WSUS) to update Linux boxes. A local repo might be easier to set up, but (as with Spacewalk) it seems like we'd end up with a lot of packages we don't need. A proxy and a sufficiently-large cache might do the trick if the first Linux box to get updates populates the cache which the files the others will need, but I haven't looked into this enough to see if there's even a way that works. How do you all keep a dozen or more Linux boxes updated? We keep local repos for CentOS, Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu -- plus some smaller repos like OpenBSD -- on an older machine with a RAID-5 array. The faster moving distributions are updated a couple time a day, while CentOS is updated just once per day. Right now, disk usage on that machine is about 2.5TB. Debian and Ubuntu have some distro-specific scripts we use (ftpsync and ubumirror, respectively), while I update CentOS and Fedora with fairly unremarkable cron jobs. Under the hood, all these tools use rsync. All installations and updates are done from the local mirrors; we use cfengine to make sure the /etc/yum.repos.d/* or /etc/apt/* files point to the right spot. -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com 45°38' N, 122°6' W___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
Hey Chris, If you are up for the challenge you can try a hybrid of squid + local repo. Local repo is based upon the basic nature of rsync which copies everything. You can write a script that will filter a list of urls of mirrors and will prepare a fetch list of files which will be fetched only the *rpm* from one of of couple mirrors into local repo. For each file it has in the cache it will first verify if the file exists in the local repo and if it is then it can redirect the client (transparently or with 302 redirection) into the local server. You can use do something similar with nginx to store the file permanently like in the idea of: https://code.google.com/p/youtube-cache/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2Fnginx The main issue would be the rpms while the packages sql\xml and other repo related stuff should be handled only by squid caching. Email me if it's was interesting to hear about the idea. Eliezer On 09/29/2014 09:19 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: I don't think there is a way to do it that doesn't take more human effort than it is worth unless you have limited internet access. It is basically designed not to work. A simple squid proxy with the file size bumped up will work with no extra attention (and be useful for all your internet accesses), but the first dozen or so runs are probably going to pick different mirror URLs instead of reusing the copy you have already cached. You can change the repo mirrorlist entry to a fixed system - but then your updates will break if it is down. Or you can mirror a bunch of stuff you'll never need into your own repo. Or set up some special-case thing that only works for Centos - or maybe even just one version of Centos. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine is Ubuntu). cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail cliffp@ubuntu:~$ file `which sendmail` /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `exim4' C 5.10 C 6.5 file `which sendmail` /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/mta' strings /etc/alternatives/mta |grep exim produces Exim lines. No results for Postfix or for Sendmail. Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have to provide that functionality. Yes I did learn something new. I started to use Linux, Centos, in desperation to rid myself of Windoze. I plunged-in, never learned the theory because of inadequate time. Hence I am Always Learning and never falling to be impressed, continuously delighted to be rid of M$ and wishing I have ventured into Linux 10+ years earlier than I did. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: snip Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have to provide that functionality. Yes I did learn something new. I started to use Linux, Centos, in desperation to rid myself of Windoze. I plunged-in, never learned the theory because of inadequate time. Hence I am Always Learning and never falling to be impressed, continuously delighted to be rid of M$ and wishing I have ventured into Linux 10+ years earlier than I did. A *very* strong recommendation: find a copy of Frisch's Essential Systems Administration, published by O'Reilly. Some of it's out of date, some more Unix than Linux... but read chapter 2, The Unix Way. A *lot* will be a lot clearer. mark been shoving this at people for 15 years ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 12:16 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: If this inconvenience's an innocent web user, I have neither ability to detect the inconvenience nor to determine the user's innocence. I understand your hotel analogue. In England many hotel guests use their mobile phones or tablets - not on wifi but on direct radio (mobile telephone) links; each link having a distinctive IP address. If the web hacker is operating through a data centre, then I permanently block, for port 80, the whole of the data centre's known IP block. The alternative is to be a willing victim. It's more a question of why you run the service at all. If blocking people from reaching it doesn't bother you, why not just shut it down? Blocking people ? Data Centre bots that download all or parts of my web sites for someone's personal amusement or for commercial gain of their customers or simply to find email addresses to use for spamming, are not the 'people' I want to attract. Why should I tolerate some malicious nutter trying to hack into my web servers ? Better to block their IP after the first attempt. Why should I close everything because of a very small, but very active, group of pests ? Better to block the compromised IPs and the rent-an-IP-address-for-a-few-hours services whilst letting everything else continue normally. No logical reason to give spammers and hackers unrestricted access. Abuse my facilities and my systems will cut them off. Its a simple and effective policy. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have to provide that functionality. Yes I did learn something new. Just new to you... I started to use Linux, Centos, in desperation to rid myself of Windoze. I plunged-in, never learned the theory because of inadequate time. Hence I am Always Learning and never falling to be impressed, continuously delighted to be rid of M$ and wishing I have ventured into Linux 10+ years earlier than I did. If you really want to appreciate the concepts, you should find a unix manual from the days before X was included. Back then there were 5 sections where 1 covered the command line programs, 2 covered system calls, 3 the standard C library, etc. It was small enough that you could read and mostly memorize it, especially section 1, in a few days. The thing to appreciate is that 30+ years later, even in cloned versions, those things were designed well enough that pretty much everything in there still continues to work. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On Mon, September 29, 2014 1:19 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Chris Beattie cbeat...@geninfo.com wrote: I have a mix of CentOS 5, 6, and now 7 servers at work. There are enough of them now that it is starting to make sense for them to get updates from an internal source. I've seen RHN Satellite in years past. It looks like it may be a way to allow Windows admins here (familiar with WSUS) to update Linux boxes. A local repo might be easier to set up, but (as with Spacewalk) it seems like we'd end up with a lot of packages we don't need. A proxy and a sufficiently-large cache might do the trick if the first Linux box to get updates populates the cache which the files the others will need, but I haven't looked into this enough to see if there's even a way that works. How do you all keep a dozen or more Linux boxes updated? I don't think there is a way to do it that doesn't take more human effort than it is worth unless you have limited internet access. It is basically designed not to work. A simple squid proxy with the file size bumped up will work with no extra attention (and be useful for all your internet accesses), but the first dozen or so runs are probably going to pick different mirror URLs instead of reusing the copy you have already cached. You can change the repo mirrorlist entry to a fixed system - but then your updates will break if it is down. Or you can mirror a bunch of stuff you'll never need into your own repo. Or set up some special-case thing that only works for Centos - or maybe even just one version of Centos. I guess my feeling will not hurt if I add my reply *here* ;-) We keep local mirror, which I'm pointing my CentOS boxes to. When I know some update is critical I kick the script that walks through all boxes and installs all updates accumulated by that time (yum clean all; yum -y update). In the past when I had awfully important servers under CentOS (they are FreeBSD now), I was testing updates on a separate box first to see if they will or will not break anything, and find the way to not have production stuff broken before actually install updates. I kick my script into action to the contrary to having daily, hourly or weekly cron job as I have system integrity verification system which will give me a kick every time anything changes without a reason. This makes cron job prohibitive for me (and requires me to incorporate that integrity stuff into update script, - which is beyond the scope here). Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 13:11 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Mon, September 29, 2014 12:59 pm, Chris Beattie wrote: Nothing in this message is intended to make or accept an offer or to form a contract, except that an attachment that is an image of a contract bearing the signature of an officer of our company may be or become a contract. This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, we hereby notify you that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete this message immediately. Thank you. I was about to answer the question then all of a sudden my eye caught this footer which offended me, so I decided mention this fact instead of answering question... Valeri PS I never feel obliged to anything that is sent to me in e-mail without me originally soliciting it. All obligations lie purely on the sender. This has always be that way and will always be no matter whether I read your crap or not (sorry, everybody who does not send e-mail with that crap, it is really difficult to hold one's feelings when you just got offended). That signature is time-wasting meaningless waffle (or gibberish, if one prefers). It has no legal worth despite the 'efforts' of the untrained legal expert who composed it :-) Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RPM install/upgrade problem
On Saturday 27 September 2014 00:20:17 Cliff Pratt wrote: It may be that you have a bad bash RPM from somewhere. I believe that the cpio command works directly on the package so you could try with cpio on the command line to see if it will open the RPM. I suspect that it won't be able to. Cheers, Cliff No, this was a server which had a copy of the centos repos stored locally. i actually wiped and redownloaded the updates from three separate sources with the same results. It wasn't just bash the latest kernel updates were also affected. Funny thing was late last week it upgraded the bash rpm but failed on the bash-doc rpm. So in the end I just reinstalled the server and everything went fine. Thanks, Tony. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Tony Molloy tony.mol...@ul.ie wrote: Hi, For the last few updates I'm having a yum problem. # yum update gives the following error for e.g. Running transaction Updating : bash-4.2.45-5.el7_0.2.x86_64 1/10 Error unpacking rpm package bash-4.2.45-5.el7_0.2.x86_64 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/alias;5423b9bc: cpio: open The same problem happens if I try to use rpm for the update so it appears to be an rpm problem rather than a yum one. I've rebuilt the rpm databases successfully but tthe problem persists. Regards, Tony, -- Linux nogs.tonyshome.ie 2.6.32-431.29.2.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 9 21:36:05 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Linux nogs.tonyshome.ie 2.6.32-431.29.2.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 9 21:36:05 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Sep 29, 2014, at 14:44, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: snip Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have to provide that functionality. Yes I did learn something new. I started to use Linux, Centos, in desperation to rid myself of Windoze. I plunged-in, never learned the theory because of inadequate time. Hence I am Always Learning and never falling to be impressed, continuously delighted to be rid of M$ and wishing I have ventured into Linux 10+ years earlier than I did. A *very* strong recommendation: find a copy of Frisch's Essential Systems Administration, published by O'Reilly. Some of it's out of date, some more Unix than Linux... but read chapter 2, The Unix Way. A *lot* will be a lot clearer. mark been shoving this at people for 15 years I second and third that recommendation. A great exercise is to use that book as a foundation, and to realize that the “what to do” has not changed that much, but the “how to do it” changes hourly. Each year as I cull my tech library, the O’Reilly books are almost never passed on to the local library. I can count on them to show the best practices / philosophies / approaches, and then I research what has changed since it was published by directed web site searching and man paging. Don ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
2014-09-29 20:59 GMT+03:00 Chris Beattie cbeat...@geninfo.com: I have a mix of CentOS 5, 6, and now 7 servers at work. There are enough of them now that it is starting to make sense for them to get updates from an internal source. I've seen RHN Satellite in years past. It looks like it may be a way to allow Windows admins here (familiar with WSUS) to update Linux boxes. A local repo might be easier to set up, but (as with Spacewalk) it seems like we'd end up with a lot of packages we don't need. A proxy and a sufficiently-large cache might do the trick if the first Linux box to get updates populates the cache which the files the others will need, but I haven't looked into this enough to see if there's even a way that works. How do you all keep a dozen or more Linux boxes updated? install yum-utils and use reposync to create local mirror with only newest packages. Thanks! -- Chris Nothing in this message is intended to make or accept an offer or to form a contract, except that an attachment that is an image of a contract bearing the signature of an officer of our company may be or become a contract. This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, we hereby notify you that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete this message immediately. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis autem vel eum iriure dolor in hendrerit in vulputate velit esse molestie consequat, vel illum dolore eu feugiat nulla facilisis at vero eros et accumsan et iusto odio dignissim qui blandit praesent luptatum zzril delenit augue duis dolore te feugait nulla facilisi. Nam liber tempor cum soluta nobis eleifend option congue nihil imperdiet doming id quod mazim placerat facer possim assum. Typi non habent claritatem insitam; est usus legentis in iis qui facit eorum claritatem. Investigationes demonstraverunt lectores legere me lius quod ii legunt saepius. Claritas est etiam processus dynamicus, qui sequitur mutationem consuetudium lectorum. Mirum est notare quam littera gothica, quam nunc putamus parum claram, anteposuerit litterarum formas humanitatis per seacula quarta decima et quinta decima. Eodem modo typi, qui nunc nobis videntur parum clari, fiant sollemnes in futurum. eh. -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:44 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: snip Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have to provide that functionality. Yes I did learn something new. I started to use Linux, Centos, in desperation to rid myself of Windoze. I plunged-in, never learned the theory because of inadequate time. Hence I am Always Learning and never falling to be impressed, continuously delighted to be rid of M$ and wishing I have ventured into Linux 10+ years earlier than I did. A *very* strong recommendation: find a copy of Frisch's Essential Systems Administration, published by O'Reilly. Some of it's out of date, some more Unix than Linux... but read chapter 2, The Unix Way. A *lot* will be a lot clearer. Its the time required to read non-essential items. Too many important demands on my time and too much work to do. Might try at Christmas if fewer demands on my time and energy. Thanks for the tip. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: The alternative is to be a willing victim. It's more a question of why you run the service at all. If blocking people from reaching it doesn't bother you, why not just shut it down? Blocking people ? Data Centre bots that download all or parts of my web sites for someone's personal amusement or for commercial gain of their customers or simply to find email addresses to use for spamming, are not the 'people' I want to attract. You said you were blocking IPs. The IPs you see don't represent people or even specific devices and you have no way of knowing the correspondence. Why should I tolerate some malicious nutter trying to hack into my web servers ? Better to block their IP after the first attempt. Why tolerate anyone? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Don O'Hara don.oh...@gmail.com wrote: I second and third that recommendation. A great exercise is to use that book as a foundation, and to realize that the “what to do” has not changed that much, but the “how to do it” changes hourly. Sigh... I'm rarely convinced that how you _should_ do something should change just because some programmer that didn't understand the old, working way wrote something new and buggy. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:03 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have to provide that functionality. Yes I did learn something new. Just new to you... No. Not only to me but also new to others who, like me, never knew. Learning is a continuous process :-) If you really want to appreciate the concepts, you should find a unix manual from the days before X was included. Back then there were 5 sections where 1 covered the command line programs, 2 covered system calls, 3 the standard C library, etc. It was small enough that you could read and mostly memorize it, especially section 1, in a few days. The thing to appreciate is that 30+ years later, even in cloned versions, those things were designed well enough that pretty much everything in there still continues to work. Design is so important. Get it really right the first time and vast amounts of time and effort are saved. If I ever encounter a Unix book or manual, I'll certainly keep it to read. Thank you. Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:44 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: snip Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much have to provide that functionality. Yes I did learn something new. I started to use Linux, Centos, in desperation to rid myself of Windoze. I plunged-in, never learned the theory because of inadequate time. Hence I am Always Learning and never falling to be impressed, continuously delighted to be rid of M$ and wishing I have ventured into Linux 10+ years earlier than I did. A *very* strong recommendation: find a copy of Frisch's Essential Systems Administration, published by O'Reilly. Some of it's out of date, some more Unix than Linux... but read chapter 2, The Unix Way. A *lot* will be a lot clearer. Its the time required to read non-essential items. Too many important demands on my time and too much work to do. I'm just pushing one chapter at you. I got into systems administration back in the mid-nineties. Two weeks after I was hired for a startup division of a huge telecom (a Baby Bell), I was asked if I wanted to pick up systems admin from one of the consultants, who'd be rolling off. I said, sure Almost a year later, when the division had grown from 4 groups to 27(!), and they brought in the corporate sysadmins, I got friendly with them, and kept doing most of the work on the server our teams under our director used. They told me of all the servers, *two* (count them) looked normal (as opposed to everyone having the root password, files and directories all over the place, etc, etc), and mine was one... and that was because I'd been sleeping with Frisch's book, as well as my ...late... wife. Might try at Christmas if fewer demands on my time and energy. *Make* the time. It'll save your bacon. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: If you really want to appreciate the concepts, you should find a unix manual from the days before X was included. Back then there were 5 sections where 1 covered the command line programs, 2 covered system calls, 3 the standard C library, etc. It was small enough that you could read and mostly memorize it, especially section 1, in a few days. The thing to appreciate is that 30+ years later, even in cloned versions, those things were designed well enough that pretty much everything in there still continues to work. Design is so important. Get it really right the first time and vast amounts of time and effort are saved. If I ever encounter a Unix book or manual, I'll certainly keep it to read. There is plenty of documentation around now, but it is much, much harder to sort out the core tools from the cruft and specialty stuff now. If you understand what the fork() system call does, most of the rest of what unix-like systems do will generally make sense. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:16 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: You said you were blocking IPs. Yes my systems block IPs on the basis:- Emails -- Block if IP allocated to a data centre or to a commercial email sending organisation. Web --- Hacking attempts - individual IP if a 'home-type' Internet connection. Block if IP allocated to a data centre. Hosts (email) Persistent pests using 'home-type' Internet connections are added to the spammers list. Example *airtelbroadband.in *adsl.alicedsl.de *dynamic.se.alltele.net *alshamil.net.ae *adsl.anteldata.net.uy *aphie.info *pools.arcor-ip.net *static.arcor-ip.net *as9105.com *as13285.net *as43234.net Thus no actual IPs are banned in this instance. Duration Individual IPs about 4 weeks. Blocks indefinite. Hosts lists indefinite. The IPs you see don't represent people or even specific devices and you have no way of knowing the correspondence. I think genuine email senders will use a real MTA rather than something, taken from today's list, like:- host-93-178-107-188.ttn.ru 249.119.233.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com dab-yat1-h-61-9.dab.02.net If the correspondence is genuinely important, then the sender will obviously know my details including phone number and/or postal address. Why tolerate anyone? Because it is my systems, paid with my money, and therefore it is my choice to accept everyone - also my choice not to tolerate hacking attempts and junk mail. I previously stated I will not be a placid victim for hacking attacks or for spamming. Long gone are the gentlemen's days of the Internet when mail relaying via third parties was acceptable, normal and never ever abused. Unless one can successfully adapt to the inevitable changes throughout life, one's existence is doomed. I wish to stop this topic now and do other things. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 15:27 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: *Make* the time. It'll save your bacon. I will look for the book. An egg and crispy bacon sandwich would be nice. Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim
Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 15:27 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: *Make* the time. It'll save your bacon. I will look for the book. An egg and crispy bacon sandwich would be nice. Yup - British bacon may well be better than American (even when you can get American bacon that's not 75% or more fat) mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On 30/09/2014 3:59 am, Chris Beattie wrote: I have a mix of CentOS 5, 6, and now 7 servers at work. There are enough of them now that it is starting to make sense for them to get updates from an internal source. I've seen RHN Satellite in years past. It looks like it may be a way to allow Windows admins here (familiar with WSUS) to update Linux boxes. A local repo might be easier to set up, but (as with Spacewalk) it seems like we'd end up with a lot of packages we don't need. A proxy and a sufficiently-large cache might do the trick if the first Linux box to get updates populates the cache which the files the others will need, but I haven't looked into this enough to see if there's even a way that works. How do you all keep a dozen or more Linux boxes updated? Hi Chris, Either a local mirror or spacewalk will do what you want. I find at my site with relatively little but expensive bandwidth, the cost of disks is much less compared to download time. Hence, I initially just mirrored over rsync and now rsync the changes every day or more frequently as required. At that stage my local machines pointed to the local mirror over my LAN. FWIW my current disk usage is about 0.7TB and I'm mirroring: -) centos -) cygwin -) dell -) epel -) rpmforge -) spacewalk After that, I then moved to spacewalk to manage the 30 or so CentOS machines currently in production. The effort to set up and maintain was not that great and the GUI front end is great for snapshots of the current state of my machines. Nice reporting tool for management. Currently I'm also moving into the OpenSCAP interface of SpaceWalk to provide the compliance reports that my company is starting to require. We do non-military civil engineering type work for government and its surprising the trickle down security and audit requirements being pushed down. I know that this can all be scripted but with a little set up its surprisingly easy via the GUI. Another big plus for me is that I love the local mirror that also makes spacewalk simpler. We do a bit of RD so find when testing new servers a kickstart off the local http mirror is really quick. Initial application deployment on the kickstarts come directly off http - as previously mentioned if you run a local squid instance here this can be even faster. Next, the first step in my %POST of the kickstart is a couple of lines to disable the native repos and connect to SpaceWalk. From there all packages are deployed off SpaceWalk but still its over http so squid may still speed things up. The big move to make SpaceWalk viable for me though, was a few years ago when it fully supported PostgreSQL over Oracle. I didn't have an Oracle license and the free version maxed out with three centos channels covering both x86_64 and i386 architectures. Finally, as a number of my developers are and want to continue to use Ubuntu/Debian, now that SpaceWalk supports debian packages, I'm looking at starting to mirror those channels and publish via SpaceWalk as well for auditing purposes. My devs have a lot of freedom on their own platforms, so if I can at least have an overview of their status that helps me. I also mirror EPEL. And publish it via SpaceWalk for all the same reasons. Hope that helps, -pete -- Peter Brady Email: pdbr...@ans.com.au Skype: pbrady77 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help on setting up a samba domain controller
I found some help at: http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=CentOS_6p=sambaf=4 If anyone knows of something more, I am interested. On 09/29/2014 11:01 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: My current samba domain controller is running ClearOS. But I am migrating to ARM servers (cubieboards) and using RedSleeve for now, and Centos7arm when that gets rolling. The driver is power savings; my ROI just on power is ~15months. So I only run an NT style Domain Controller with XP clients and roaming user profiles. It works, as there are only a few systems here are really just my wife and I. But it is nice for my wife to hop on a laptop at the dinning table and get her same desktop as she has on the den computer. So copying the basic Samba files is rather simple, it seems, but then there is the LDAP setup and the add machine and user scripts. So it gets complex rather quickly. I looked over on the Centos Wiki and did not find any help there, but my search foo has always been weak. So is there a howto I can use to get off the 'everything (and more than I want) done for me' bandwagon and build the basics myself? I figure I can deal with dnsmasq, even though I am a bind kind of guy; the configs look simple. But there is probably a dyndns piece lurking somewhere. NTP I have always done myself. I have even hacked a bit at basic Samba to maintain per user logins. But the ldap will definitely be a new experience... thanks for any pointers (that help me :) ). ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] possereg.teachingopensource.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is the app at http://possereg.teachingopensource.org still being used? If so, can we migrate that to the main TOS server? If not, I'd like to take it down as part of a server migration we're doing for theopensourceway.org host. Thanks - Karsten - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade.^\ CentOS Doer of Stuff http://TheOpenSourceWay.org\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlQpyJMACgkQ2ZIOBq0ODEFMaQCeOYiboZ2mEWCFiaOJbSEy6faD +DwAn1Yj4vL/GrSkALJSJQKowPE8e1/1 =IHy3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Peter Brady subscripti...@simonplace.net wrote: I also mirror EPEL. And publish it via SpaceWalk for all the same reasons. How big is EPEL? And when you mirror with SpaceWalk does it preserve old version so you'd have the possibility to downgrade after a change? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] 2.5 to 3.5 Conversion Tray
Anyone know of a 2.5 to 3.5 converter so I can put a 2.5 SSD drive in a Supermicro 3.5 SATA hot swap bay? The one I purchased does not seem to work. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On Mon, September 29, 2014 4:26 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Peter Brady subscripti...@simonplace.net wrote: I also mirror EPEL. And publish it via SpaceWalk for all the same reasons. How big is EPEL? And when you mirror with SpaceWalk does it preserve old version so you'd have the possibility to downgrade after a change? If you maintain official public mirror you can not step away from original, you should always rsync --delete [other options]... and have exact replica of original. Do I miss something? Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On 30/09/2014 7:26 am, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Peter Brady subscripti...@simonplace.net wrote: I also mirror EPEL. And publish it via SpaceWalk for all the same reasons. How big is EPEL? My current EPEL mirror is 115GB. I mirror that from a local Australian mirror (AARNET) so I'm a little behind in time but my ISP gives me free volume to AARNET. And when you mirror with SpaceWalk does it preserve old version so you'd have the possibility to downgrade after a change? Yes. To confirm in my EPEL 6 x86_64 channel I have, for example, clamav versions from clamav-0.97.8-1.el6.x86_64 to clamav-0.98.4-1.el6.x86_64. Interestingly SpaceWalk is quite an efficient store. For example: /var/satellite: 135GB where spacewalk stores all its packages for every channel. Verses the raw, rsynced mirrors: du -sch centos epel rpmforge spacewalk 116Gcentos 115Gepel 53G rpmforge 5.6Gspacewalk 289Gtotal I suspect that there are a lot of duplicates in the mirrors that spacewalk is smart enough to link to rather than copy. For example noarch rpms that appear in multiple channels. Also, those mirrors include the DVD isos, which are not in spacewalk. To save space on the raw mirror I have rsync set to delete after the package is removed from upstream but I don't automatically delete from spacewalk. There are third party perl scripts to do this but I have lots of disk space on that server so have not bothered yet Cheers -pete -- Peter Brady Email: pdbr...@ans.com.au Skype: pbrady77 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Mon, September 29, 2014 4:26 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Peter Brady subscripti...@simonplace.net wrote: I also mirror EPEL. And publish it via SpaceWalk for all the same reasons. How big is EPEL? And when you mirror with SpaceWalk does it preserve old version so you'd have the possibility to downgrade after a change? If you maintain official public mirror you can not step away from original, you should always rsync --delete [other options]... and have exact replica of original. Do I miss something? Sorry, I misinterpreted what you said. I thought you meant that you kept a local mirror of EPEL for use with your SpaceWalk-managed systems. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 2.5 to 3.5 Conversion Tray
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Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk? Local repo? Cache?
On 30/09/14 08:29, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Mon, September 29, 2014 4:26 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Peter Brady subscripti...@simonplace.net wrote: I also mirror EPEL. And publish it via SpaceWalk for all the same reasons. How big is EPEL? And when you mirror with SpaceWalk does it preserve old version so you'd have the possibility to downgrade after a change? If you maintain official public mirror you can not step away from original, you should always rsync --delete [other options]... and have exact replica of original. Do I miss something? Sorry, I misinterpreted what you said. I thought you meant that you kept a local mirror of EPEL for use with your SpaceWalk-managed systems. I haven't used this but I have been following closely of late. If you are after more than a local copy, have a look at pulp http://www.pulpproject.org/ it is part of RedHat's next incarnation of Satellite, Satellite v6. talkes a lot of the hard work out of keeping a local cache of packages. If you want advanced features, you can install an agent on each machine to allow you to manage installs from the server. Redhat are moving to a group of products to replace satellit v5, consisting of Puppet, Foreman, Katello, Pulp and candlepin. http://rhsummit.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/caplan_t_0330_red_hat_satellite_6_overview_roadmap__demo.pdf Grant ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 2.5 to 3.5 Conversion Tray
On 9/29/2014 3:11 PM, Matt wrote: Anyone know of a 2.5 to 3.5 converter so I can put a 2.5 SSD drive in a Supermicro 3.5 SATA hot swap bay? The one I purchased does not seem to work. its tricky to do this with a hotswap bay, because the 2.5 drive's connectors are the same distance from the edge as the 3.5, so you have to secure the disk without anything between the near side and drive, yet the screw holes aren't even close to in the same lace. I managed to kludge this with a HP gen6 bay. HOWEVER, Supermicro DOES have 2.5 drive trays that fit many of their hotswap 3.5 bays. thats by far the best way to do it. MCP-220-00080-0B2.5 HDD in 2nd generation 3.5 hot swap tray (CSE-PT17L-B) etc. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] possereg.teachingopensource.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, my mail client expanded 'tos' to centos@ instead the intended recipient t...@teachingopensource.org. Never mind. :) On 09/29/2014 02:01 PM, Karsten Wade wrote: Is the app at http://possereg.teachingopensource.org still being used? If so, can we migrate that to the main TOS server? If not, I'd like to take it down as part of a server migration we're doing for theopensourceway.org host. Thanks - Karsten ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade.^\ CentOS Doer of Stuff http://TheOpenSourceWay.org\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlQqCe4ACgkQ2ZIOBq0ODEFHqwCguOKs8sRUYDxfcq6IjPNfvmjM G2cAoMLNHElcOZXy22m9S+Nw6Q+Ckzhk =oASO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] webcam program for continuous recording.
chris, On 09/28/2014 05:53 PM, g wrote: On 09/28/2014 05:28 PM, Chris Pemberton wrote: VLC can record the input from /dev/videoX. See the example here: http://www.gofree.com/Tutorials/VLCVideoWebcam.php Chris, thank you for reply. i will check site and reply back with results. thanks for link. i was late checking it, which i just finished. that link is for oos. i am running centos 6.5. seems that all software i found at gofree is for oos. at least from searching that i did. even tho linux is mentioned in description text, no downloads show linux. i did find a link at gofree.com that lead to videolan.org, which lead to rpm.pbone.net, where i found binary rpms for fedora and other os's, but none for centos. so, it looks like if i want vlc for centos, i will have to try compile source. not looking forward to such right now. also, please excuse delay in reply. i had surgery this morning and i crashed after i got back home. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] webcam program for continuous recording.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:08:18PM -0500, g wrote: chris, On 09/28/2014 05:53 PM, g wrote: On 09/28/2014 05:28 PM, Chris Pemberton wrote: VLC can record the input from /dev/videoX. See the example here: http://www.gofree.com/Tutorials/VLCVideoWebcam.php Chris, thank you for reply. i will check site and reply back with results. thanks for link. i was late checking it, which i just finished. that link is for oos. i am running centos 6.5. seems that all software i found at gofree is for oos. at least from searching that i did. even tho linux is mentioned in description text, no downloads show linux. i did find a link at gofree.com that lead to videolan.org, which lead to rpm.pbone.net, where i found binary rpms for fedora and other os's, but none for centos. so, it looks like if i want vlc for centos, i will have to try compile source. not looking forward to such right now. Oh no vlc definitely can be had in a Centos/RHEL binary, did you look at rpmfusion? -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Hebrews 4:12 (niv) -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] webcam program for continuous recording.
On 9/29/2014 7:08 PM, g wrote: i did find a link at gofree.com that lead to videolan.org, which lead to rpm.pbone.net, where i found binary rpms for fedora and other os's, but none for centos. so, it looks like if i want vlc for centos, i will have to try compile source. not looking forward to such right now. the problem is, VLC steps all over a bunch of patents for various media formats, like mp3, mp4, which are heavily constrained by patents players are supposed to pay royalties, so legitimate US business at least can't distribute working binaries of free opensource implementations. I did find centos6 rpm's for VLC at rpmforge, but that repository is now considered dead, and no longer updated, and in fact these binaries were 3-4 years old. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] webcam program for continuous recording.
Fred, John, On 09/29/2014 09:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:08:18PM -0500, g wrote: so, it looks like if i want vlc for centos, i will have to try compile source. not looking forward to such right now. Oh no vlc definitely can be had in a Centos/RHEL binary, did you look at rpmfusion? On 09/29/2014 09:39 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 9/29/2014 7:08 PM, g wrote: so, it looks like if i want vlc for centos, i will have to try compile source. not looking forward to such right now. the problem is, VLC steps all over a bunch of patents for various media formats, like mp3, mp4, which are heavily constrained by patents players are supposed to pay royalties, so legitimate US business at least can't distribute working binaries of free opensource implementations. I did find centos6 rpm's for VLC at rpmforge, but that repository is now considered dead, and no longer updated, and in fact these binaries were 3-4 years old. thank you for replies. i did not _look_ at rpmforge, but i did enable it, along with a bunch of other repos in yumex. when i ran search, nothing came back. so, 'dead is, as dead does'. :-D -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
