Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread Duncan Brown

On 04/12/2015 12:03, Karanbir Singh wrote:

On 03/12/15 16:47, Duncan Brown wrote:


Did you rebuild initrd after removing the kmod packages?


Yes, and no change

is it possible to get a bug report at bugs.centos.org with as much
detail as possible, so we can try to reproduce ( and atleast document
and manage it that way ).

thanks



I'm seeing if I can get a decent copy of the kernel panic

Would the bug report be much use without it?

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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread Duncan Brown

On 04/12/2015 19:17, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:

Em 03-12-2015 14:46, Duncan Brown escreveu:

Here is a couple of pictures,

http://i.imgur.com/Vqvqn1H.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WQaz1j9.png

Any use?


Of some. It's failing on ftrace initialization while allocating 
memory, but can't know the real reason. It can be just lack of memory 
or any other bug.


Probably by that stage of the boot, framebuffer is already loaded. Use 
vga=0x317 boot option to get a bigger resolution and more lines on it, 
then send another pic.


I hope it fits this time. If not, pick 0x31A, if your monitor allows.

(kernel src, Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt)
| 640x480  800x600  1024x768 1280x1024
+-
256 |  0x3010x3030x3050x307
32k |  0x3100x3130x3160x319
64k |  0x3110x3140x3170x31A
16M |  0x3120x3150x3180x31B

  Marcelo

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Hi Marcelo

Thanks for the suggestion

I've worked through a decent selection and cant get any to show a higher 
resolution than it's currently at, in fact most just leave me with a 
blank screen


Note I can change the resolution all I want if I boot via the previous 
kernel


cheers

Duncan
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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread Marcelo Ricardo Leitner

Em 03-12-2015 14:46, Duncan Brown escreveu:

Here is a couple of pictures,

http://i.imgur.com/Vqvqn1H.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WQaz1j9.png

Any use?


Of some. It's failing on ftrace initialization while allocating memory, 
but can't know the real reason. It can be just lack of memory or any 
other bug.


Probably by that stage of the boot, framebuffer is already loaded. Use 
vga=0x317 boot option to get a bigger resolution and more lines on it, 
then send another pic.


I hope it fits this time. If not, pick 0x31A, if your monitor allows.

(kernel src, Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt)
| 640x480  800x600  1024x768 1280x1024
+-
256 |  0x3010x3030x3050x307
32k |  0x3100x3130x3160x319
64k |  0x3110x3140x3170x31A
16M |  0x3120x3150x3180x31B

  Marcelo

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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 12:06:14PM +, Karanbir Singh wrote:

> i dont see it being dropped, on my completely updated machine i still
> see the fully qualified numbering in /etc/centos-release ( as an example ) ?

I know this is a big, confused thread, but the main complaint is that
the website has dropped the fully qualified numbering:

https://www.google.com/#q=%227.1.1503%27+site:centos.org

vs

https://www.google.com/#q=%227+1503%27+site:centos.org

The first is "7.1.1503" and has 895 results, and they aren't html
pages, they're things like directories containing that string.

The second is strings like "7 (1503)", and has 1,700+ results, and
they are the html pages.


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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread Lamar Owen

On 12/04/2015 08:02 AM, mark wrote:
No, *you* don't understand what we're saying: pre-systemd, if the o/p 
saw that one stmt before the panic, they could look at what the system 
was doing *sequentially*, and so have an idea what it was failing on. 
With systemd's parallelism, we have no clue, other than what it's 
done, and no idea what's happening that's failing.


It has never been true that a kernel panic was necessarily caused by the 
immediately preceding step in a sequential init.  I ran into one 
instance (back in 4.x days, incidentally, where 'x' was 1 or 2) where a 
panic was caused by the tg3 driver, but it wasn't tickled until a 
variable number of packets passed the interface, and it didn't happen 
very often.  Typically, when it happened it happened during ssh startup 
(almost every time it occurred, in fact).  But the root cause was the 
tg3 driver module, not sshd.  So having the last line before the panic 
being the ssh startup was actually a hindrance rather than a help in 
that case; I would have been looking for an sshd problem that didn't 
actually exist.


I don't think that's an isolated instance, either.  You need the module 
information from the panic more than information on what was started 
immediately prior to the panic.  This was fixed without me having to 
file a bug report, incidentally, and so there is no BZ # to point you to 
that I recall, and a quick search of bugzilla doesn't show one for that 
particular issue that I had.  I ended up seeing that it was a tg3 
problem after setting up a serial console and grabbing the panic output 
from that.  By the time I got to that point, the next update rollup for 
CentOS 4 was coming down, and that was the end of that problem.


I keep thinking I'll track down the panic I saw a few months ago with 
CentOS 7 and gkrellm on my hardware, but by the time I get enough 'round 
toits' to do the troubleshooting the kernel has been updated, and I have 
to wait on the debuginfo.lather, rinse, repeat.  Eventually I'll get 
my timing right and see what is (or maybe is not) happening.


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Re: [CentOS] Firewalld zone conflict

2015-12-04 Thread Colin Coles
On 04/12/15 15:01, James Hogarth wrote:
>>  In CentOS7 I have added two zones using firewall-cmd, each for
>> different ports/services and interfaces when I try to --add-source to
>> the second zone with an IP that is already in the first I am getting an
>> 'Error: ZONE_CONFLICT' message. Am I trying to do something illogical or
>> is this a feature?
>>
>>
>>
> By design a source network can only belong to a single zone...
> 
> You'll have to create N zones to cover each network and add the service to
> each...
> 
>  You may be interested in reading https://www.hogarthuk.com/?q=node/9 if
> you are doing some firewalld stuff.

OK thanks, I see the error of my reasoning now.


Colin.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7.2 - no GUI login after upgrade

2015-12-04 Thread Earl Ramirez
On Fri, 2015-12-04 at 09:41 +, John Hodrien wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2015, Leon Fauster wrote:
> 
> >> Any pointers on how to get the login screen?
> >
> > What about the gstreamer1 stuff, are all necessary
> > libraries (linkage) in place? Especially for the EPEL
> > stuff.
> 
> You *need* to upgrade the gstreamer libraries or you break gnome (which breaks
> gdm).  Uninstall whatever is clashing from epel, upgrade gstreamer, all will
> be well.
> 
> There's a missing dependency there in the RPMs, but to be honest that's not at
> all uncommon.  I'd never recommend a partial update over a point release.
> 
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Thank Leon and John,

Removed the gstreamer that was installed from epel repo and I used the
packages that are from base and I am now able to login to the laptop.

Thanks again guys.

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Re: [CentOS] Firewalld zone conflict

2015-12-04 Thread James Hogarth
On 4 December 2015 at 14:18, Colin Coles  wrote:

> Hi,
>  In CentOS7 I have added two zones using firewall-cmd, each for
> different ports/services and interfaces when I try to --add-source to
> the second zone with an IP that is already in the first I am getting an
> 'Error: ZONE_CONFLICT' message. Am I trying to do something illogical or
> is this a feature?
>
>
>
By design a source network can only belong to a single zone...

You'll have to create N zones to cover each network and add the service to
each...

 You may be interested in reading https://www.hogarthuk.com/?q=node/9 if
you are doing some firewalld stuff.
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[CentOS] Firewalld zone conflict

2015-12-04 Thread Colin Coles
Hi,
 In CentOS7 I have added two zones using firewall-cmd, each for
different ports/services and interfaces when I try to --add-source to
the second zone with an IP that is already in the first I am getting an
'Error: ZONE_CONFLICT' message. Am I trying to do something illogical or
is this a feature?

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread James B. Byrne

On Thu, December 3, 2015 14:50, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
. . .
>> That is my main complaint about parallelized boot. My brain is
>> only capable to deal with serial sequence of events, and which
>> next event is deterministically predictable from previous. As
>> with fatal things like kernel panic, it is the previous before
>> the fatalstep is the one that you still can see...
>>
>> It there some way to tell systemd kick in components serially?
>>
>> Severs aside (you can not have everything), this (CentOS 7) is a
>> great system for laptops, the best I saw so far. Like machintosh.
>> Only better.
>
> For laptops, great. For anything else, not so much. For example,
> it's supposed to be an *ENTERPRISE* o/s... why does it
> automatically, without ever asking, install anything wifi? I'm
> still trying to figure out how to tell a *wired* CentOS 7
> workstation to stop even thinking about wifi or wimax, and stop
> cluttering the logs with debugging garbage.
>

The short answer:  Because RHEL is based on Fedora development.

The long answer:  Because RH believes/believed that the laptop
environment is/was a key part of its growth strategy.  The recent
phenomenon of the widespread adoption of smart phones and tablets in
place of laptops may bring that into question now, but the move to
laptops was a deliberate business choice in my opinion.

It remains to be seen whether or not RH can have its cake and eat it
too.  Sysadmins tend to be rather prickly people when it comes to
people and things that appear to waste their time.  It seems to me a
strategy of dubious worth aggravating ones installed based chasing a
chimera.

However that may be, the world moves on and we perforce move with it
or are left behind.

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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 08:02:28AM -0500, mark wrote:
> No, *you* don't understand what we're saying: pre-systemd, if the o/p saw
> that one stmt before the panic, they could look at what the system was doing
> *sequentially*, and so have an idea what it was failing on. With systemd's
> parallelism, we have no clue, other than what it's done, and no idea what's
> happening that's failing.

Sadly, in this case, no init system would help with the fact that the
kernel panic is more lines than are shown on a VGA screen.  So, no
help there.

Also, while the systemd init system is loaded very early, judging from
the call trace, it happened before or during the pivot from the initrd
to the root filesystem.  There's little that can be done to address
this kind of panic, no matter what init system you're running, you
basically just need to have a logging console somewhere.

However, if you have a journald writing into memory, its very possible
that if it doesn't panic enough to kill the journal you might have a
copy of what *was* running.  It's not the case here, but this is
something that you get from having a journal -- you have real logs of
what was happening, what processes were running and what emitted the
error.  With Upstart and SysVinit, you were stuck watching the output
on the console and hoping whatever generated the error was good enough
to say what program it was.  Sure, you could make guesses based on the
serial startup (although Upstart also supported parallel startup,
although the CentOS init system rarely used it).

For what its worth, you could always crank up systemd.log_level=debug
on boot and you'll see what's going on when it panics.

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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread mark

On 12/03/15 20:54, Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Dec 3, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Valeri Galtsev 
wrote:

That is my main complaint about parallelized boot. My brain is only
capable to deal with serial sequence of events, and which next event is
deterministically predictable from previous. As with fatal things like
kernel panic, it is the previous before the fatalstep is the one that
you still can see...


This has nothing to do with systemd or a parallelized boot.  The kernel
panic is happening during the initial load of the kernel and initialization
of hardware.

I know you love to blame every problem on systemd, but c’mon, this problem
is going to happen with *EVERY* init system.

No, *you* don't understand what we're saying: pre-systemd, if the o/p saw that 
one stmt before the panic, they could look at what the system was doing 
*sequentially*, and so have an idea what it was failing on. With systemd's 
parallelism, we have no clue, other than what it's done, and no idea what's 
happening that's failing.


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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/12/15 13:58, Greg Bailey wrote:
> Those who care about the upstream version knew that this was derived
> from RHEL 7.0.  Those who don't care about upstream versions but want to
> track monthly rebuilds of cloud images, etc., could distinguish between
> "1406" and (for example) "1407".  But somewhere along the line for 7.1,
> the "component that maps to the upstream release" was dropped, and we
> got just 7 (1503).  I don't recall seeing where or how that decision was
> made; is there a link someone can provide to the relevant discussion in
> centos-devel?

i dont see it being dropped, on my completely updated machine i still
see the fully qualified numbering in /etc/centos-release ( as an example ) ?

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Re: [CentOS] 7.2 kernel panic on boot

2015-12-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/12/15 16:47, Duncan Brown wrote:

>> Did you rebuild initrd after removing the kmod packages?
>>
> Yes, and no change

is it possible to get a bug report at bugs.centos.org with as much
detail as possible, so we can try to reproduce ( and atleast document
and manage it that way ).

thanks


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7.2 - no GUI login after upgrade

2015-12-04 Thread John Hodrien

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015, Leon Fauster wrote:


Any pointers on how to get the login screen?


What about the gstreamer1 stuff, are all necessary
libraries (linkage) in place? Especially for the EPEL
stuff.


You *need* to upgrade the gstreamer libraries or you break gnome (which breaks
gdm).  Uninstall whatever is clashing from epel, upgrade gstreamer, all will
be well.

There's a missing dependency there in the RPMs, but to be honest that's not at
all uncommon.  I'd never recommend a partial update over a point release.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7.2 - no GUI login after upgrade

2015-12-04 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 04.12.2015 um 03:12 schrieb Earl A Ramirez :
> After installing and enabling the centos-release-cr repo on my CentOS 7.1
> laptop; I ran yum clean all and yum update. Yum complained about gstreamer1
> dependencies that is caused by epel repo; therefore, I excluded it from the
> epel repo and run yum update one more time and it went through.
> 
> After the update was completed I rebooted the laptop and I will just get
> the splash screen but will never get to the actual login screen; I have
> experienced this in the past from CentOS 7.0 to 7.1 upgrade and at that
> time it was caused by SELinux relabeling some of the configuration files;
> e.g. /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. This was discovered after I went into
> single user mode and checked the journal.
> 
> I booted in the previous successful kernel that loaded and I experienced
> the same behavior; therefore I went into single user mode from the latest
> kernel that came with CentOS 7.2 and the previous kernel, checked the
> journal and there were no errors that give me a hint of what is going
> wrong. There are no SELinux relabeling but I left the laptop on for a few
> hours because I was modifying a few directories to accommodate docker and
> KVM storage from the default setup.
> 
> Any pointers on how to get the login screen?



What about the gstreamer1 stuff, are all necessary 
libraries (linkage) in place? Especially for the EPEL
stuff. 

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