Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:31:29PM +0200, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 12/04/2017 à 19:41, Andrew Holway a écrit :
> > Between the early 1990's and early 2000's the price of a GB of memory went
> > from ~$100,000 to ~$1000*. I guess a lot of the design decisions made for
> > things like init were focussed on this. In 1995 is was common for server
> > platforms to have 32Mb ram whereas the kernel alone in my PC here at home
> > is consuming just over 500MB. It seems reasonable that software components
> > built in 1997 will not be fit for purpose in 2017.
> 
> Back in 2013 I did some Linux training for a company in Montpellier. The
> first week the server racks hadn't been delivered yet, so we were stuck.
> In a cupboard, I found an antique Dell Poweredge 1300 server that was
> out of service, made around 1997 or so. I dusted it off, found a power
> cable, a monitor, a network cable and a keyboard and connected the
> thing. It had a P-III 500 MHz processor, 3 x 9 GB SCSI disks and a
> whooping 128 MB of RAM, and not a single USB port (only parallel).
> 

Similar, much earlier tale of my own.  Doing Intro Unix training
at a client site.  The classroom had PCs with Hummingbird's XDMCP
software to remotely connect to a monster HP unix system.  On
Monday arrival I learned their HP license expired over the weekend
and remote access was not possible.

I had my laptop, either a Pentium or P II, running Solaris x86.
I put it on the network and had the students point their XDMCP
to it.  Ran the first two days of class with 12 students plux
the console all running X graphical logins.  On Wednesday they
had us switch to the HP.  Some students asked if they could
switch back because the laptop seemed more responsive.

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 07:41:33PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
> >
> > Of course, to be fair, there may have been a *reason* for not doing it
> > that way before
> >
> 
> Between the early 1990's and early 2000's the price of a GB of memory went
> from ~$100,000 to ~$1000*. I guess a lot of the design decisions made for
> things like init were focussed on this. In 1995 is was common for server
> platforms to have 32Mb ram whereas the kernel alone in my PC here at home
> is consuming just over 500MB. It seems reasonable that software components
> built in 1997 will not be fit for purpose in 2017.

Just another historic note.  Until System V, Release 4,
circa 1989 or 90, AT's Unix ran on computers with a
64KB memory space.  That was just the code though,
the data, static, dynamic, and stack were in a second
64KB space.  That was all the pdp-11 allowed.

The merger of BSD code with AT code in SVR4 pushed
it off of the pdp-11s.  But it still ran on things
like the AT 3B-20 which had a 1MB virtual memory
addressing scheme.

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Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Yep, I messed up, copying from the wrong window.

On 04/13/2017 01:22 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

Le 13/04/2017 à 04:25, Robert Moskowitz a écrit :

I am writing my howto on BIND for Centos7.  Mine is running on
Centos7-arm.  You can see some of the basics I have done at:

file:///home/rgm/data/htt/httnet/homepage/Centos7-armv7.html

I have a caveat I learned with dealing with SELinux and BIND there.

You sent a link to a local file (file://) so unfortunately I can't
access it.


http://medon.htt-consult.com/Centos7-armv7.html


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Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-12 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 13/04/2017 à 04:25, Robert Moskowitz a écrit :
> I am writing my howto on BIND for Centos7.  Mine is running on
> Centos7-arm.  You can see some of the basics I have done at:
> 
> file:///home/rgm/data/htt/httnet/homepage/Centos7-armv7.html
> 
> I have a caveat I learned with dealing with SELinux and BIND there.

You sent a link to a local file (file://) so unfortunately I can't
access it.

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Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz

ARGH!

That was the local copy I am editing.

On 04/13/2017 01:11 AM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 4/12/2017 7:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am writing my howto on BIND for Centos7.  Mine is running on 
Centos7-arm.  You can see some of the basics I have done at:


file:///home/rgm/data/htt/httnet/homepage/Centos7-armv7.html



noone else can see your local file system


http://medon.htt-consult.com/Centos7-armv7.html


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Re: [CentOS] bind vs. bind-chroot

2017-04-12 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 13/04/2017 à 00:18, John R Pierce a écrit :
> 
> bind went through a rocky stage where there were a LOT of security holes
> in it.  by running it in a chroot, you limit its ability to be used as a
> hacking point of entry.recent versions of bind (basicially, 9 and
> newer) are much more secure, so this is less of a concern.

OK. Thanks for the clarification.

Niki

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Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 4/12/2017 7:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am writing my howto on BIND for Centos7.  Mine is running on 
Centos7-arm.  You can see some of the basics I have done at:


file:///home/rgm/data/htt/httnet/homepage/Centos7-armv7.html



noone else can see your local file system


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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:43 PM -0700 John R Pierce 
 wrote:



procmail: Assigning "SUBJECT= Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The
Point BB.OBSURGRH is"


sounds like your issue is procmail then...  I just used your exact
command to send myself a message form a bone stock C6 system (sendmail as
the email server) and recieved...


Procmail unfolds headers. Could it be the logging that's truncating the 
subject? Where is that "Assigning" output coming from? You could dump the 
SUBJECT variable to a file to see what it really thinks is in there.









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Re: [CentOS] bind vs. bind-chroot

2017-04-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 04/12/2017 06:18 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 4/12/2017 3:11 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

On my public servers, I usually run BIND for DNS. I see CentOS offers a
preconfigured (sort of) bind-chroot package. I wonder what's the
effective benefit of this vs. a "normal" BIND setup without chroot. On
my Slackware servers, I have a rather Keep-It-Simple approach to all
things security, e. g. run no unneed services, open only needed ports
etc. but I don't run the extra mile (and haven't been bitten so far).

Any suggestions? (No flamefest please.)



bind went through a rocky stage where there were a LOT of security 
holes in it.  by running it in a chroot, you limit its ability to be 
used as a hacking point of entry.recent versions of bind 
(basicially, 9 and newer) are much more secure, so this is less of a 
concern.




But make sure to have SELinux enabled if you do not run it chrooted.

I have mine running that way.


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Re: [CentOS] Primary DNS server with BIND on a public machine running CentOS 7

2017-04-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am writing my howto on BIND for Centos7.  Mine is running on 
Centos7-arm.  You can see some of the basics I have done at:


file:///home/rgm/data/htt/httnet/homepage/Centos7-armv7.html

I have a caveat I learned with dealing with SELinux and BIND there.

On 04/11/2017 01:05 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

Hi,

I just installed CentOS 7 on a public server. I'd like to setup BIND as
a primary DNS server for a few domains.

Until now, all my public machines were running Slackware Linux, and
setting up BIND on a Slackware machine is relatively easy. In its out of
the box configuration, it has a bone-headed caching nameserver role,
which is quite easy to expand to a primary nameserver. Here's my
documentation. It's in French, but the *nix bits are universal.

http://blog.microlinux.fr/bind-slackware/

On my server running CentOS, I notice things are more complicated in the
default configuration. The problem here is not so much documentation,
but more like the wealth of information on the subject of BIND on
CentOS, with often contradicting information.

Is there a *reliable* more or less quick & dirty tutorial on how to get
BIND up and running as a primary public nameserver, with the default
configuration as a starting point? Think "recipe for pasta" and not
"degree in food chemistry". :o)

Cheers,

Niki



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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-12 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 22:45 +0200, Nicolas Kovacs a écrit:

> On my Slackware servers (no systemd, no funny network interface names),
> I just edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and switch eth0
> and eth1 (and eth2 etc.) if needed.
> 
> Keep It Simple.

Un bon idea !
Ich auch
Ikki ook :-)


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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-12 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2017-04-10 at 15:38 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

> At home, I'm staying on CentOS 6 until it EoLs.

Production and development +1

Then FreeBSD ?


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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2017:0892 Important CentOS 6 kernel Security Update

2017-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2017:0892 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2017-0892.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
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perf-2.6.32-696.1.1.el6.x86_64.rpm
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python-perf-2.6.32-696.1.1.el6.x86_64.rpm

Source:
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kernel-2.6.32-696.1.1.el6.src.rpm



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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2017:0894 CentOS 6 glibc BugFix Update

2017-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2017:0894 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017-0894.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
9d63b2a8a77b6636265bc8edfdbb0fc3bcb8e1c656161d59c3cf7579edf6b4c7  
glibc-2.12-1.209.el6_9.1.i686.rpm
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glibc-headers-2.12-1.209.el6_9.1.i686.rpm
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glibc-static-2.12-1.209.el6_9.1.x86_64.rpm
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glibc-utils-2.12-1.209.el6_9.1.x86_64.rpm
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nscd-2.12-1.209.el6_9.1.x86_64.rpm

Source:
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glibc-2.12-1.209.el6_9.1.src.rpm



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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2017:0889 CentOS 6 samba BugFix Update

2017-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2017:0889 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017-0889.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
9ce4a6af56ee568164dade2fd4254ce8c362f2307a04d333de521de47da110ca  
libsmbclient-3.6.23-42.el6_9.i686.rpm
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samba-client-3.6.23-42.el6_9.i686.rpm
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samba-common-3.6.23-42.el6_9.i686.rpm
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samba-winbind-krb5-locator-3.6.23-42.el6_9.i686.rpm

x86_64:
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samba-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
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samba-client-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
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samba-common-3.6.23-42.el6_9.i686.rpm
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samba-common-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
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samba-doc-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
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samba-domainjoin-gui-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
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samba-glusterfs-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
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samba-swat-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
68511f9e70e3934467bae9a8923f934ba938db60250d258aed078237952004f3  
samba-winbind-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
d1132bcb927cfdfdf5cd471437d90154753ba0a2f077b8200cf398b4fde9  
samba-winbind-clients-3.6.23-42.el6_9.i686.rpm
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samba-winbind-clients-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
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samba-winbind-devel-3.6.23-42.el6_9.i686.rpm
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samba-winbind-devel-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
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samba-winbind-krb5-locator-3.6.23-42.el6_9.x86_64.rpm

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samba-3.6.23-42.el6_9.src.rpm



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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2017:0893 Important CentOS 6 389-ds-base Security Update

2017-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2017:0893 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2017-0893.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
f37d9fc9d72aa953adf6f00bd89f983f4fa4014fa60aa5592ed0193f19bb1a17  
389-ds-base-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.i686.rpm
912cfdc9c70c72572b3ddd43a837684cd6a333cf13669c31446fcbf2f627c02c  
389-ds-base-devel-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.i686.rpm
7b0321c770d7747d75042b06143c4191f7093509f0aa03a35cc64ab27a7e8661  
389-ds-base-libs-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.i686.rpm

x86_64:
46e41f2c29fc9f4385b09d81d29c6643f6f3a4024312f0cf24b0328722c3cad1  
389-ds-base-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
912cfdc9c70c72572b3ddd43a837684cd6a333cf13669c31446fcbf2f627c02c  
389-ds-base-devel-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.i686.rpm
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389-ds-base-devel-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
7b0321c770d7747d75042b06143c4191f7093509f0aa03a35cc64ab27a7e8661  
389-ds-base-libs-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.i686.rpm
02cdcbe1385fe44f3fbcb17ed60a7f1f31748f9c971b5b41388584ca98907b1d  
389-ds-base-libs-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.x86_64.rpm

Source:
6766a9c8fd0d269b3dbb571c313ba53ad1e1552a68c09bf5dcef1590cbdf9c67  
389-ds-base-1.2.11.15-91.el6_9.src.rpm



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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2017:0891 CentOS 6 binutils BugFix Update

2017-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2017:0891 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017-0891.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
522137f6ad927defa29d622f9c898b15cfcb831bc9540a744cc633ce592029d4  
binutils-2.20.51.0.2-5.47.el6_9.1.i686.rpm
fcf046bc91f084f03066b70d1678f00244962c89b04edac4f4675b0f521ea7cc  
binutils-devel-2.20.51.0.2-5.47.el6_9.1.i686.rpm

x86_64:
3ddfa87eb95de0b5b9c45c9066c888f5ad09604f828f781c9667d9e567b16a98  
binutils-2.20.51.0.2-5.47.el6_9.1.x86_64.rpm
fcf046bc91f084f03066b70d1678f00244962c89b04edac4f4675b0f521ea7cc  
binutils-devel-2.20.51.0.2-5.47.el6_9.1.i686.rpm
6f836323bf6bd2f69ec0f7de74b268a0281b46f4a4a1626aee5d006bf86e2eb1  
binutils-devel-2.20.51.0.2-5.47.el6_9.1.x86_64.rpm

Source:
0a75e68ffd00380df15b062e3aaf5bddb4b1f008882945d62cb25432abb9e6fb  
binutils-2.20.51.0.2-5.47.el6_9.1.src.rpm



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[CentOS-announce] CEEA-2017:0890 CentOS 6 nss Enhancement Update

2017-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2017:0890 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2017-0890.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
509dfc40541a3cd57337f0415f0fafeb37076988956b0b351513fedcea0cd348  
nss-3.28.3-3.el6_9.i686.rpm
2cb1a6b94ebe7eb14568b8a9609087621bb756f5c1a1d66209f4624483890c52  
nss-devel-3.28.3-3.el6_9.i686.rpm
9ce45c047f6d3aa94ac99642d9325938eb3da9865df742199a886a5661d3c08b  
nss-pkcs11-devel-3.28.3-3.el6_9.i686.rpm
9e9449fb1828556f54ed786451c876fe60f77979c786f9fb4d70be000b023e31  
nss-sysinit-3.28.3-3.el6_9.i686.rpm
0ce30b6e8eef1497a146e36de426d0edfa2f6ccfdde0761b8c39edf35efbb27d  
nss-tools-3.28.3-3.el6_9.i686.rpm

x86_64:
509dfc40541a3cd57337f0415f0fafeb37076988956b0b351513fedcea0cd348  
nss-3.28.3-3.el6_9.i686.rpm
85e659e7c9dd6cc3f92d9533b7639c3bd20c000f28993ec911f820f9b6f7e417  
nss-3.28.3-3.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
2cb1a6b94ebe7eb14568b8a9609087621bb756f5c1a1d66209f4624483890c52  
nss-devel-3.28.3-3.el6_9.i686.rpm
648f642b45d3a106f7a7ce696361de4f5ce1d91f6041a0c981a4985a965d0220  
nss-devel-3.28.3-3.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
9ce45c047f6d3aa94ac99642d9325938eb3da9865df742199a886a5661d3c08b  
nss-pkcs11-devel-3.28.3-3.el6_9.i686.rpm
1109409641781683833d8320b316bf2db7eee3e23ac708129bce3215a4386687  
nss-pkcs11-devel-3.28.3-3.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
507a50f8fca8e8e3bcf1fcb44355b7c4a392ea51a250fa9245a572094b73f762  
nss-sysinit-3.28.3-3.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
c6c87a08024a0c914058671cf5c58e6b17452a266b13a40edc430838597e5292  
nss-tools-3.28.3-3.el6_9.x86_64.rpm

Source:
fb7422b5d57a5a743165fd8f93884ceffe1aa300042fa6493cd5282c27c29273  
nss-3.28.3-3.el6_9.src.rpm



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[CentOS-announce] CEEA-2017:0890 CentOS 6 nss-util Enhancement Update

2017-04-12 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2017:0890 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2017-0890.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
f0dd36a2ffd1bd3193157b19bbed84aaefa671bec44a6b0f77dc2459166cf444  
nss-util-3.28.3-1.el6_9.i686.rpm
2b85c7bd91b7211b995091b75cfabcc7d661e2a4081ddaa3dd0b43f7f06b0789  
nss-util-devel-3.28.3-1.el6_9.i686.rpm

x86_64:
f0dd36a2ffd1bd3193157b19bbed84aaefa671bec44a6b0f77dc2459166cf444  
nss-util-3.28.3-1.el6_9.i686.rpm
1e31884ab0c3f3ed7c9dceeed6d8756fa5953a8995fcc95a5d2ec54afbe273c1  
nss-util-3.28.3-1.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
2b85c7bd91b7211b995091b75cfabcc7d661e2a4081ddaa3dd0b43f7f06b0789  
nss-util-devel-3.28.3-1.el6_9.i686.rpm
d1ab474cfaa8d7e326fb07ae3888d49db13b214e1902b1ff20c6838eb63d30d1  
nss-util-devel-3.28.3-1.el6_9.x86_64.rpm

Source:
2717e278d224dce7a6736e8d474b3ec20c4b657403a363d2ea82b31b7b8011ea  
nss-util-3.28.3-1.el6_9.src.rpm



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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Dave Stevens
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:59:41 -0500 (CDT)
"Valeri Galtsev"  wrote:

> On Wed, April 12, 2017 2:39 pm, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Holway
> >  wrote:  
> >>>
> >>> When Windows 2000 came out some called it "bloated pig". Some 6
> >>> years down
> >>> the road Linux started catching up ;-) Then we stopped laughing
> >>> about Windows.
> >>>  
> >>
> >> All in the name of progress..  
> >
> >   I have been told that Windows developers were taught not to
> > optimize their code for memory/cpu/etc since those could be solved
> > by throwing more hardware at it. Instead they should make clean
> > readable code. Not claiming that is exclusive to Windows or the
> > clean readable part is followed...
> >  
> 
> Continuing in the same spirit. Way back SELinux (before it made it
> into main stream kernel) had a competitor. LIDS. De-ciphers as Linux
> Intrusion Detection System (but name is confusing). Creature of
> Purdue University Computer science department. Basically LISD was a
> kernel patch that upon end of boot sequence demotes root account to
> privileges of user nobody. This makes system impregnable on the fly
> (but real pain to administer - any change can only be done as: shut
> down, change, boot). I was so impressed, I still remember about it.
> Never came to using it though. If it did, it might give big pain to
> NSA and friends. But SELinux won, and LIDS never made it into main
> stream kernel - to my regret. As far as SELinux is concerned, several
> people still think that several (how many?) thousands of extra code
> in the kernel may bring more harm than do good. Anyway, the last IMHO
> is where "tastes differ".
> 
> Valeri

the wikipedia confirms my memory that SELinux is a child of the NSA.
Is anyone astonished that this allowed them to hack into Linux?

d

> 
> 
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> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
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Re: [CentOS] bind vs. bind-chroot

2017-04-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 4/12/2017 3:11 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

On my public servers, I usually run BIND for DNS. I see CentOS offers a
preconfigured (sort of) bind-chroot package. I wonder what's the
effective benefit of this vs. a "normal" BIND setup without chroot. On
my Slackware servers, I have a rather Keep-It-Simple approach to all
things security, e. g. run no unneed services, open only needed ports
etc. but I don't run the extra mile (and haven't been bitten so far).

Any suggestions? (No flamefest please.)



bind went through a rocky stage where there were a LOT of security holes 
in it.  by running it in a chroot, you limit its ability to be used as a 
hacking point of entry.recent versions of bind (basicially, 9 and 
newer) are much more secure, so this is less of a concern.



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[CentOS] bind vs. bind-chroot

2017-04-12 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Hi,

On my public servers, I usually run BIND for DNS. I see CentOS offers a
preconfigured (sort of) bind-chroot package. I wonder what's the
effective benefit of this vs. a "normal" BIND setup without chroot. On
my Slackware servers, I have a rather Keep-It-Simple approach to all
things security, e. g. run no unneed services, open only needed ports
etc. but I don't run the extra mile (and haven't been bitten so far).

Any suggestions? (No flamefest please.)

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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Alexander Dalloz

Am 12.04.2017 um 22:24 schrieb Richard:

[ ... ]


There's supposed to be a "null" line between the structured (header)
text lines and the rest of the body. The "Subject:" is generally the
last of the structured text lines, so you should be able to start
your read with the "Subject:" tag and continue reading until you hit
the "null" line.


No, there is simply no rule nor evidence that the subject header line is 
or should be the last of all header lines. Typically you see it 
somewhere within the mail's header.


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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Alexander Dalloz

Am 12.04.2017 um 22:03 schrieb Richard:

[ ... ]


A "Subject:" line is just a structured text line in the message body
and MTAs (e.g., sendmail) don't do anything differently with it than
any other line in a message body. The max length is 998 "characters".


No, the subject of a mail message is a defined field and part of the 
message header, not the body of the message. Just see RFC 5322. Message 
header and (optional) body are separated by an empty line. While there 
are specific rules for message header fields there are (nearly) none for 
the character flow of the mail body (MIME RFCs aside). The 998 character 
limit per line applies for both the header and the body.



I suspect that your MUA or more likely procmail is where the
truncation is taking place. I just did:

   /bin/mailx -s"... 200+ character subject ..."

on a C6/sendmail machine and it worked fine.


That turned out to be the case as the OP didn't cover folding of long 
header fields (RFC 5322 2.2.3).


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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 02:25:52PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 4/12/2017 12:39 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> >   I have been told that Windows developers were taught not to
> >optimize their code for memory/cpu/etc since those could be solved by
> >throwing more hardware at it. Instead they should make clean readable
> >code. Not claiming that is exclusive to Windows or the clean readable
> >part is followed...
> 
> 
> There is a good case to be made for avoiding 'premature
> optimization' in software design and development.

Yeah. Especially because (good) modern compilers can do an
amazing job of optimizing for you, enough so that you often
don't need to put any effort at all into it. then there are
those corner cases, wherein you DO.

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 4/12/2017 12:39 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

   I have been told that Windows developers were taught not to
optimize their code for memory/cpu/etc since those could be solved by
throwing more hardware at it. Instead they should make clean readable
code. Not claiming that is exclusive to Windows or the clean readable
part is followed...



There is a good case to be made for avoiding 'premature optimization' in 
software design and development.



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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread m . roth
Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Jonathan Billings 
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 07:50:32PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
>>> No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of
>>> a few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime
>>> discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode
>>> irc channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol
>>> generally seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when
compared
>>> to modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.
>>
>> Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1782/
>>
>   I raise your XKCD with another: https://xkcd.com/1810/
>
>> I idle in #centos and #rhel and it doesn't seem particularly quiet.
>> Maybe it's the hours -- that wouldn't change with Slack or any
>> alternatives.
>>
I never got into IRC. However, I'll hit y'all back: usenet.

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread m . roth
Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Holway 
> wrote:
>>>
>>> When Windows 2000 came out some called it "bloated pig". Some 6 years
>>> down the road Linux started catching up ;-) Then we stopped laughing
about
>>> Windows.
>
>> All in the name of progress..
>
>   I have been told that Windows developers were taught not to
> optimize their code for memory/cpu/etc since those could be solved by
> throwing more hardware at it. Instead they should make clean readable
> code. Not claiming that is exclusive to Windows or the clean readable
> part is followed...

I read an interview 10? 15? years ago with Gates, and it was clear he was
a hardware junky.

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Wed, April 12, 2017 2:39 pm, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Holway 
> wrote:
>>>
>>> When Windows 2000 came out some called it "bloated pig". Some 6 years
>>> down
>>> the road Linux started catching up ;-) Then we stopped laughing about
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>
>> All in the name of progress..
>
>   I have been told that Windows developers were taught not to
> optimize their code for memory/cpu/etc since those could be solved by
> throwing more hardware at it. Instead they should make clean readable
> code. Not claiming that is exclusive to Windows or the clean readable
> part is followed...
>

Continuing in the same spirit. Way back SELinux (before it made it into
main stream kernel) had a competitor. LIDS. De-ciphers as Linux Intrusion
Detection System (but name is confusing). Creature of Purdue University
Computer science department. Basically LISD was a kernel patch that upon
end of boot sequence demotes root account to privileges of user nobody.
This makes system impregnable on the fly (but real pain to administer -
any change can only be done as: shut down, change, boot). I was so
impressed, I still remember about it. Never came to using it though. If it
did, it might give big pain to NSA and friends. But SELinux won, and LIDS
never made it into main stream kernel - to my regret. As far as SELinux is
concerned, several people still think that several (how many?) thousands
of extra code in the kernel may bring more harm than do good. Anyway, the
last IMHO is where "tastes differ".

Valeri


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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
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University of Chicago
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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 04:17:38PM -0400, Jerry Geis wrote:
> Oh I understand now what is happening. The subject is coming in as three
> lines.
> 
> Subject: Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is
>  in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 %.Informational Text: OB SURGERY
>  HUMIDITY ALARM
> 
> I'm not getting the second two lines.
> 
> How "should" one correctly get the subject ???
> 
> What I did was in my .procmailrc file
> SUBJECT=`cat | grep Subject:`
> 
> So this resulted in only the first line and not grabbing the additional 2
> lines.

are you saying the subject is 3 lines (not one long line that wraps
over 3) before you try to send it as email?

if so you need to strip out the newlines (or CR/LF) or whatever is
there as linebreaks.

Have a look at the "tr" command, possibly the -d option.

echo "now  
is  
the  
time" | tr -d "\12\15"

prints "now is the time" but note that there is no newline at
the end of the string, so you'd need to add one back.

if you do this, you get the trailing newline, though this looks
pretty weird:

/usr/bin/echo -e  `echo "now 
is 
the 
time" | tr -d "\12\15"` 

good luck!



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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Jonathan Billings  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 07:50:32PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
>> No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a
>> few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime
>> discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc
>> channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally
>> seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when compared to
>> modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.
>
>
> Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1782/
>
  I raise your XKCD with another: https://xkcd.com/1810/

> I idle in #centos and #rhel and it doesn't seem particularly quiet.
> Maybe it's the hours -- that wouldn't change with Slack or any
> alternatives.
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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Richard


> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 16:17:38 -0400
> From: Jerry Geis 
>
> Oh I understand now what is happening. The subject is coming in as
> three lines.
> 
> Subject: Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point
> BB.OBSURGRH is  in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4
> %.Informational Text: OB SURGERY  HUMIDITY ALARM
> 
> I'm not getting the second two lines.
> 
> How "should" one correctly get the subject ???
> 
> What I did was in my .procmailrc file
> SUBJECT=`cat | grep Subject:`
> 
> So this resulted in only the first line and not grabbing the
> additional 2 lines.
> Is there a way to correctly get the subject that I have not found?
> 
> Thanks for the tips. It led me to the above.
> 
> Jerry

There's supposed to be a "null" line between the structured (header)
text lines and the rest of the body. The "Subject:" is generally the
last of the structured text lines, so you should be able to start
your read with the "Subject:" tag and continue reading until you hit
the "null" line.

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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Jerry Geis
Oh I understand now what is happening. The subject is coming in as three
lines.

Subject: Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is
 in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 %.Informational Text: OB SURGERY
 HUMIDITY ALARM

I'm not getting the second two lines.

How "should" one correctly get the subject ???

What I did was in my .procmailrc file
SUBJECT=`cat | grep Subject:`

So this resulted in only the first line and not grabbing the additional 2
lines.

Is there a way to correctly get the subject that I have not found?

Thanks for the tips. It led me to the above.

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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 4/12/2017 12:48 PM, Jerry Geis wrote:

So I am using sendmail on C7.



ok, wait, I do have a c7 test VM...


[piercej@c7test ~]$ echo "" |mail -s "Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 
20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 
%.Informational Text:OB SURGERY HUMIDITY ALARM" piercej

[piercej@c7test ~]$ mail
Heirloom Mail version 12.5 7/5/10.  Type ? for help.
"/var/spool/mail/piercej": 1 message 1 new
>N  1 John R Pierce Wed Apr 12 13:06  20/888   "Tornado Monday, 
03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is in Alarm at PRI3 with a 
value of 63.4 %.I"

& 1
Message  1:
From pier...@c7test.xxx.com  Wed Apr 12 13:06:22 2017
Return-Path: 
X-Original-To: piercej
Delivered-To: pier...@c7test.xxx.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:06:22 -0700
To: pier...@c7test.xxx.com
Subject: Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is
 in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 %.Informational Text:OB SURGERY
 HUMIDITY ALARM
User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
From: pier...@c7test.xxx.com (John R Pierce)
Status: R

&


so, your issue is something specific on your configuration. hmm, c7's 
default email service is postfix, not sendmail, for what /thats/ worth.



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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 07:50:32PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
> No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a
> few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime
> discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc
> channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally
> seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when compared to
> modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.


Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1782/

I idle in #centos and #rhel and it doesn't seem particularly quiet.
Maybe it's the hours -- that wouldn't change with Slack or any
alternatives. 

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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 4/12/2017 12:48 PM, Jerry Geis wrote:

So I am using sendmail on C7.

I added to the .procmailrc file VERBOSE and a log file.

procmail: Assigning "SUBJECT= Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The
Point BB.OBSURGRH is"

This command:
echo "" | mail -s "Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point
BB.OBSURGRH is in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 %.Informational Text:
OB SURGERY HUMIDITY ALARM" email_test

With email_test being a local account... clearly my subject is truncated.
Is there a way to expand that?


still on C6...   (don't have a c7 server configured with an email service).


[pierce@new ~]$ mail
Heirloom Mail version 12.4 7/29/08.  Type ? for help.
"/var/spool/mail/pierce": 1 message 1 new
>N  1 John R Pierce Wed Apr 12 13:00  20/738   "Tornado Monday, 
03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is in Alarm at PRI3 with a 
value of 63.4 %.I"

& 1
Message  1:
From pie...@xxx.com  Wed Apr 12 13:00:09 2017
Return-Path: 
X-Original-To: pierce
Delivered-To: pie...@xxx.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:00:09 -0700
To: pie...@new.freescruz.com
Subject: Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is
 in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 %.Informational Text:OB SURGERY
 HUMIDITY ALARM
User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
From: pie...@xxx.com (John R Pierce)
Status: R



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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Richard


> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 15:48:06 -0400
> From: Jerry Geis 
>
> So I am using sendmail on C7.
> 
> I added to the .procmailrc file VERBOSE and a log file.
> 
> procmail: Assigning "SUBJECT= Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at
> 20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is"
> 
> This command:
> echo "" | mail -s "Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point
> BB.OBSURGRH is in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4
> %.Informational Text: OB SURGERY HUMIDITY ALARM" email_test
> 
> With email_test being a local account... clearly my subject is
> truncated. Is there a way to expand that?
> 

A "Subject:" line is just a structured text line in the message body
and MTAs (e.g., sendmail) don't do anything differently with it than
any other line in a message body. The max length is 998 "characters".

I suspect that your MUA or more likely procmail is where the
truncation is taking place. I just did:

   /bin/mailx -s"... 200+ character subject ..."

on a C6/sendmail machine and it worked fine.


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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Jerry Geis
So I am using sendmail on C7.

I added to the .procmailrc file VERBOSE and a log file.

procmail: Assigning "SUBJECT= Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The
Point BB.OBSURGRH is"

This command:
echo "" | mail -s "Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point
BB.OBSURGRH is in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 %.Informational Text:
OB SURGERY HUMIDITY ALARM" email_test

With email_test being a local account... clearly my subject is truncated.
Is there a way to expand that?

Thanks,

Jerry
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Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

2017-04-12 Thread Mark (Netbook)

Hello,

I found kernel-ml.
Are there any dependencies that I should be aware of?
I am trying to apply it to either RHEL 6.9 or CentOS 6.9

Regards,
Mark Woolfson
-Original Message- 
From: Nux!

Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:28 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

Google ?

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- Original Message -

From: "Mark (Netbook)" 
To: "CentOS mailing list" 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 17:25:12
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics



Hello,

Where do I find kernel-ml?

Regards,
Mark Woolfson
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From: Nux!
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:18 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

Give kernel-ml a try, else try CentOS 7.

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- Original Message -

From: "Mark (Netbook)" 
To: "CentOS mailing list" 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 17:13:56
Subject: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics



Hello,

I have an Intel NUC7i3 with 620 graphics and an Intel NUC7i7 with 640
graphics.
I have loaded CentOS 6.9 and the graphics is not fully working.
I believe that I need a driver.
Does CentOS support the Intel 620 and 640 graphics and if not, can 
someone

please point me in the direction of the drivers, with install
instructions.

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 4/12/2017 12:38 PM, Jerry Geis wrote:

Sorry for the extra email. It send to quickly.

procmail: Assigning "SUBJECT= Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The
Point BB.OBSURGRH is"


sounds like your issue is procmail then...  I just used your exact 
command to send myself a message form a bone stock C6 system (sendmail 
as the email server) and recieved...


(domain munged because I don't want to recieve ANY email at this host)


From - Wed Apr 12 12:40:34 2017
X-Account-Key: account1
X-UIDL: 58ee82b10004
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Return-Path: 
Received: from new.XXX.com (new.XXX.com [207.111.XXX.YY])
by hogranch.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id v3CJeKi25266
for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:40:20 -0700
Received: by new.freescruz.com (Postfix, from userid 500)
id 98C33606BE; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:40:20 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:40:20 -0700
To: pie...@hogranch.com
Subject: Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point BB.OBSURGRH is
 in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 %.Informational Text:OB SURGERY
 HUMIDITY ALARM
User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <20170412194020.98c3360...@new.xxx.com>
From: pie...@xxx.com (John R Pierce)
  


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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Holway  wrote:
>>
>> When Windows 2000 came out some called it "bloated pig". Some 6 years down
>> the road Linux started catching up ;-) Then we stopped laughing about
>> Windows.
>>
>
> All in the name of progress..

  I have been told that Windows developers were taught not to
optimize their code for memory/cpu/etc since those could be solved by
throwing more hardware at it. Instead they should make clean readable
code. Not claiming that is exclusive to Windows or the clean readable
part is followed...

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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Jerry Geis
Sorry for the extra email. It send to quickly.

procmail: Assigning "SUBJECT= Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The
Point BB.OBSURGRH is"


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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 4/12/2017 12:27 PM, Jerry Geis wrote:

I seem to be running into a subject length issue on email. Is there any way
to increase that ?


you'll need to be a whole lot more specific.   I've seen emails with 
stupidly long subjects, one message sent to a list recently had the 
entire message body pasted onto the subject.


Where are you running into this issue, how is it manifesting itself, 
what software is involved (email client, email server, email list server?)


I see you're using gmail, are you sure this problem isn't specific to gmail?


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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Jerry Geis
Sure... Its local. I run this command:
echo "" | mail -s "Tornado Monday, 03/27/2017 at 20:27:02. The Point
BB.OBSURGRH is in Alarm at PRI3 with a value of 63.4 %.Informational Text:
OB SURGERY HUMIDITY ALARM" email_test

where email_test is my local machine account.

The subject gets truncated:


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Re: [CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Alexander Dalloz

Am 12.04.2017 um 21:27 schrieb Jerry Geis:

Hello all

I seem to be running into a subject length issue on email. Is there any way
to increase that ?

Thanks,

jerry


There needs to be more context. Where and how do you face the limit? 
Client-side or on the mail transport? The RFC defines a limit for mail 
headers and the subject is one of them. Would be very strange to hit 
that though.


Alexander


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[CentOS] email subject length issue

2017-04-12 Thread Jerry Geis
Hello all

I seem to be running into a subject length issue on email. Is there any way
to increase that ?

Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Andrew Holway
>
> When Windows 2000 came out some called it "bloated pig". Some 6 years down
> the road Linux started catching up ;-) Then we stopped laughing about
> Windows.
>

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, April 12, 2017 1:31 pm, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 12/04/2017 à 19:41, Andrew Holway a écrit :
>> Between the early 1990's and early 2000's the price of a GB of memory
went
>> from ~$100,000 to ~$1000*. I guess a lot of the design decisions made
for
>> things like init were focussed on this. In 1995 is was common for
server
>> platforms to have 32Mb ram whereas the kernel alone in my PC here at
home
>> is consuming just over 500MB. It seems reasonable that software
components
>> built in 1997 will not be fit for purpose in 2017.
>
> Back in 2013 I did some Linux training for a company in Montpellier. The
first week the server racks hadn't been delivered yet, so we were stuck.
In a cupboard, I found an antique Dell Poweredge 1300 server that was out
of service, made around 1997 or so. I dusted it off, found a power cable,
a monitor, a network cable and a keyboard and connected the thing. It had
a P-III 500 MHz processor, 3 x 9 GB SCSI disks and a whooping 128 MB of
RAM, and not a single USB port (only parallel).
>
> I happened to have the three CD-Rom set of Slackware 14.0 32-bit, so I
gave that a spin. The installation took quite some time, but after the
initial reboot, I managed to login, and the base system took no more than
15 MB RAM.
>
> So the first week we began working the course on this machine (which we
aptly named "grossebertha", because it was a noisy monster). After a week
or so, our new hardware arrived, and since the Windows trainer complained
about "8 GB RAM not being enough for a Windows server
installation", we decided just to nag him a bit to see how far we could
take the course on our old machine. In the end, we had NTP, Dnsmasq,
Samba, NIS+NFS, a LAMP stack, Squid, SquidGuard and SquidAnalyzer, and a
few other things running on this old monster.

When Windows 2000 came out some called it "bloated pig". Some 6 years down
the road Linux started catching up ;-) Then we stopped laughing about
Windows.

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 12/04/2017 à 19:41, Andrew Holway a écrit :
> Between the early 1990's and early 2000's the price of a GB of memory went
> from ~$100,000 to ~$1000*. I guess a lot of the design decisions made for
> things like init were focussed on this. In 1995 is was common for server
> platforms to have 32Mb ram whereas the kernel alone in my PC here at home
> is consuming just over 500MB. It seems reasonable that software components
> built in 1997 will not be fit for purpose in 2017.

Back in 2013 I did some Linux training for a company in Montpellier. The
first week the server racks hadn't been delivered yet, so we were stuck.
In a cupboard, I found an antique Dell Poweredge 1300 server that was
out of service, made around 1997 or so. I dusted it off, found a power
cable, a monitor, a network cable and a keyboard and connected the
thing. It had a P-III 500 MHz processor, 3 x 9 GB SCSI disks and a
whooping 128 MB of RAM, and not a single USB port (only parallel).

I happened to have the three CD-Rom set of Slackware 14.0 32-bit, so I
gave that a spin. The installation took quite some time, but after the
initial reboot, I managed to login, and the base system took no more
than 15 MB RAM.

So the first week we began working the course on this machine (which we
aptly named "grossebertha", because it was a noisy monster). After a
week or so, our new hardware arrived, and since the Windows trainer
complained about "8 GB RAM not being enough for a Windows server
installation", we decided just to nag him a bit to see how far we could
take the course on our old machine. In the end, we had NTP, Dnsmasq,
Samba, NIS+NFS, a LAMP stack, Squid, SquidGuard and SquidAnalyzer, and a
few other things running on this old monster.

Cheers,

Niki

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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Andrew Holway  wrote:
>>
>> Not enthused with slack. And here's a real question: were you talking
>> about *instead* of this mailing list?
>
>
> No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a
> few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime
> discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc
> channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally
> seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when compared to
> modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.

  I do know groups who have a mailing list and slack/fb and claim
the more "progressive users" prefer the more "progressive social media
channels" (facebook/slack). For those concerned that people can find
what you did on irc, do you really think what is posted on slack is
private? It is as private as any social media thingie out there.

FYI, in a previous job we ran our own internal irc, which was great
when we had to do support (level 1 on the phone could be feeding us
all with the info and question and one of us could be providing
answer. Caller would be none of the wiser).

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Re: [CentOS] qcow2 --> logical volume

2017-04-12 Thread Scott Gennari



On 04/12/2017 10:19 AM, Philippe BOURDEU d'AGUERRE wrote:

Le 12/04/2017 à 15:31, Scott Gennari a écrit :

How would can you import/migrate this .qcow2 into a logical volume? Any
advice would be greatly appreciated.



- get size of qcow2 image:

qemu-img info yourFile.qcow2

- create a logical volume of same size:

ssm create -s xxxb -n yourLvName -p centos

- copy image:

qemu-img convert yourFile.qcow2 -O raw /dev/centos/yourLvName



That worked perfectly. Thank you, Philippe!

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Phelps, Matthew
 wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux!  wrote:
>
>> To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with
>> anything.
>> So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
>>
>>
> IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls. IRC
> is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.
>
  I have my irc client running on a home vm which I check
regularly doing workday. I know people who run irc clients on their
phone.

>
> If we go Mattermost, can we have a searchable public archive of the chats?
>> Something search engines can index and we can point people to?
>>
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>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "Karanbir Singh" 
>> > To: "CentOS mailing list" 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 13:56:53
>> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack
>>
>> > On 12/04/17 13:23, Andrew Holway wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts? Experiances?
>> >>
>> >
>> > been talking with the mattermost people to get an instance up in
>> > centos.org space - more open source, more privacy and better terms of
>> > service.
>> >
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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread m . roth
Andrew Holway wrote:
>>
>> Of course, to be fair, there may have been a *reason* for not doing it
>> that way before
>>
> Between the early 1990's and early 2000's the price of a GB of memory went
> from ~$100,000 to ~$1000*. I guess a lot of the design decisions made for
> things like init were focussed on this. In 1995 is was common for server
> platforms to have 32Mb ram whereas the kernel alone in my PC here at home
> is consuming just over 500MB. It seems reasonable that software components
> built in 1997 will not be fit for purpose in 2017.
>
> * According to perfunctory google search:
> http://www.statisticbrain.com/average-historic-price-of-ram/

a) I was speaking in much more general terms than just software.
b) Stuff built then will run unbelievable fast on modern systems - and no,
in the nineties,
  we were not manually swapping.
c) If it fulfils its intended purpose, why would you redefine it as not
fit for that
  purpose?
d) And then there stuff that I'm not sure of the purpose... like eclipse,
that
  needs 2GB to run... for an editor.

  mark "my web pages proudly built in vi!"

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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/04/17 17:26, Nux! wrote:
> To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with anything.

Dont need to replace it, MatterMost will bridge channels from one
interface to another, with a mostly usable interface.

> So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
> 
> If we go Mattermost, can we have a searchable public archive of the chats? 
> Something search engines can index and we can point people to?

yeah, that can be factored in as well. There were concerns in the past
from people not wanting their chat's logged and published, since in many
cases as is with CentOS, people are talking about problems and potential
solutions to internet facing infra / production services etc

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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Andrew Holway
>
> Not enthused with slack. And here's a real question: were you talking
> about *instead* of this mailing list?


No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a
few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime
discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc
channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally
seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when compared to
modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.
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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Andrew Holway
>
> Of course, to be fair, there may have been a *reason* for not doing it
> that way before
>

Between the early 1990's and early 2000's the price of a GB of memory went
from ~$100,000 to ~$1000*. I guess a lot of the design decisions made for
things like init were focussed on this. In 1995 is was common for server
platforms to have 32Mb ram whereas the kernel alone in my PC here at home
is consuming just over 500MB. It seems reasonable that software components
built in 1997 will not be fit for purpose in 2017.

* According to perfunctory google search:
http://www.statisticbrain.com/average-historic-price-of-ram/
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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread m . roth
Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Alice Wonder 
> wrote:
>> On 04/12/2017 09:36 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux!  wrote:
>>>
>>> To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with
 anything.So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.

 IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate
 firewalls. IRC is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.
>>>
>> I seem to recall some web-based IRC clients existing.
>>
> True. It isn't a problem that can't be solved :)
>
> Just inconvenient; plus the powers that be  don't take kindly to
> circumventing restrictions they put in place, even if it is for real work.
>
Heh. That, and that to paraphrase Todd's disclaimers, I do not speak for
the US federal gov't, or for my company... and that's why I use my own
"professional" email account, rather than my federal work one, on this
list.

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] Ignoring /run/user/X

2017-04-12 Thread Cameron Smith
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:13 AM, James Pearson 
wrote:

>
> > Does anybody have a recommendation on how we can stop those partitions
> from
> > being seen on walks so we can stop being alerted about partitions for
> which
> > we are not interested in monitoring their available space?
>
> You could try it the other way round - and just list the disks you want
> to monitor with the 'disk' directive?
>
> Ahh - I will test that! Tunnel vision took me down the ignore rabbit hole
:)

Cameron
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[CentOS-docs] Wiki Localization

2017-04-12 Thread G.S.
Hello, I would like to contribute to a Wiki in English or in Wiki
localization to the Russian language.

Could you please inform me how I can start.

Thank you

Best Regards
Gabriel
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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread m . roth
Andrew Holway wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a
> Slack
> for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly,
> its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for
> computer centric discussion.
>
> https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2NTc5LTE0OTE5OTkyNTctMjkyNGU1NWQzOA
>
> My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to
> flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks and
> how
> to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a
> pastebin.
>
> Thoughts? Experiances?
>
Not enthused with slack. And here's a real question: were you talking
about *instead* of this mailing list? I would very much not be happy with
that, for the same reason I'm significantly less than enthused by "social
media": I prefer actual written-out thoughts, and threads, and being able
to intercollate comments. Social media, IMO, leans towards one sentence
comments.

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Alice Wonder  wrote:

> On 04/12/2017 09:36 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux!  wrote:
>>
>> To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with
>>> anything.
>>> So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
>>>
>>>
>>> IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls.
>> IRC
>> is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.
>>
>>
>>
> I seem to recall some web-based IRC clients existing.
>
>
>
True. It isn't a problem that can't be solved :)

Just inconvenient; plus the powers that be  don't take kindly to
circumventing restrictions they put in place, even if it is for real work.

My point is, I welcome the initiative this thread is bringing.


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Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Alice Wonder  wrote:
> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90035/how-to-set-dns-resolver-in-fedora-using-network-manager
>
> That says it works for CentOS 5 and I *suspect* the methods there (3 listed)
> would work

Across comments, there are actually more than 3 solutions.  The
shortest and simplest solution is to add one line containing
"dns=none" to the [main] section of
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf.  Doing so will instruct
NetworkManager not to update the resolv.conf file.
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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Alice Wonder

On 04/12/2017 09:36 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux!  wrote:


To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with
anything.
So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.



IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls. IRC
is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.




I seem to recall some web-based IRC clients existing.

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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux!  wrote:

> To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with
> anything.
> So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
>
>
IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls. IRC
is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.


If we go Mattermost, can we have a searchable public archive of the chats?
> Something search engines can index and we can point people to?
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Karanbir Singh" 
> > To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 13:56:53
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack
>
> > On 12/04/17 13:23, Andrew Holway wrote:
> >>
> >> Thoughts? Experiances?
> >>
> >
> > been talking with the mattermost people to get an instance up in
> > centos.org space - more open source, more privacy and better terms of
> > service.
> >
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Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

2017-04-12 Thread Nux!
Google ?

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- Original Message -
> From: "Mark (Netbook)" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 17:25:12
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

> Hello,
> 
> Where do I find kernel-ml?
> 
> Regards,
> Mark Woolfson
> -Original Message-
> From: Nux!
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:18 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics
> 
> Give kernel-ml a try, else try CentOS 7.
> 
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> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mark (Netbook)" 
>> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 17:13:56
>> Subject: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have an Intel NUC7i3 with 620 graphics and an Intel NUC7i7 with 640
>> graphics.
>> I have loaded CentOS 6.9 and the graphics is not fully working.
>> I believe that I need a driver.
>> Does CentOS support the Intel 620 and 640 graphics and if not, can someone
>> please point me in the direction of the drivers, with install
>> instructions.
>>
>> Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Nux!
To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with anything.
So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.

If we go Mattermost, can we have a searchable public archive of the chats? 
Something search engines can index and we can point people to?

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www.nux.ro

- Original Message -
> From: "Karanbir Singh" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 13:56:53
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

> On 12/04/17 13:23, Andrew Holway wrote:
>> 
>> Thoughts? Experiances?
>> 
> 
> been talking with the mattermost people to get an instance up in
> centos.org space - more open source, more privacy and better terms of
> service.
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

2017-04-12 Thread Mark (Netbook)

Hello,

Where do I find kernel-ml?

Regards,
Mark Woolfson
-Original Message- 
From: Nux!

Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:18 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

Give kernel-ml a try, else try CentOS 7.

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- Original Message -

From: "Mark (Netbook)" 
To: "CentOS mailing list" 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 17:13:56
Subject: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics



Hello,

I have an Intel NUC7i3 with 620 graphics and an Intel NUC7i7 with 640 
graphics.

I have loaded CentOS 6.9 and the graphics is not fully working.
I believe that I need a driver.
Does CentOS support the Intel 620 and 640 graphics and if not, can someone
please point me in the direction of the drivers, with install 
instructions.


Regards,
Mark Woolfson
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Re: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

2017-04-12 Thread Nux!
Give kernel-ml a try, else try CentOS 7.

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- Original Message -
> From: "Mark (Netbook)" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 17:13:56
> Subject: [CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

> Hello,
> 
> I have an Intel NUC7i3 with 620 graphics and an Intel NUC7i7 with 640 
> graphics.
> I have loaded CentOS 6.9 and the graphics is not fully working.
> I believe that I need a driver.
> Does CentOS support the Intel 620 and 640 graphics and if not, can someone
> please point me in the direction of the drivers, with install instructions.
> 
> Regards,
> Mark Woolfson
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[CentOS] Re CentOS and Intel graphics

2017-04-12 Thread Mark (Netbook)
Hello,

I have an Intel NUC7i3 with 620 graphics and an Intel NUC7i7 with 640 graphics.
I have loaded CentOS 6.9 and the graphics is not fully working.
I believe that I need a driver.
Does CentOS support the Intel 620 and 640 graphics and if not, can someone 
please point me in the direction of the drivers, with install instructions.

Regards,
Mark Woolfson
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Re: [CentOS] Ignoring /run/user/X

2017-04-12 Thread James Pearson
Cameron Smith wrote:
> We are running into an issue relating to snmpd and the temporary partitions
> created in /run/user/ so any insight by someone with magical
> net-snmp skills would be much appreciated.
>
> Our monitoring app walks all our servers.
> We modify /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf on all our servers to just have one line:
> rocommunity ourcommnuityname monitor.ing.app.ip
>
> This has worked just fine for almost 10 years.
>
> Since the release of CentOS 7 we are getting alerts for partitions not
> being found during walks and these are the temporary partitions that are
> ephemeral while a user is logged in:
> /run/user/0
> /run/user/65000
>
> Seems if the partition is there when the monitor is set or is added while
> the monitor is active the monitor will keep looking for it and these are
> meant to go away.
>
> We thought "OK we can just ignore those" so we added a line to
> /etc/snmpd.conf :
> ignoredisk /run/user/*
>
> but that has not helped :(
>
> Does anybody have a recommendation on how we can stop those partitions from
> being seen on walks so we can stop being alerted about partitions for which
> we are not interested in monitoring their available space?

You could try it the other way round - and just list the disks you want 
to monitor with the 'disk' directive?

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Re: [CentOS] Ignoring /run/user/X

2017-04-12 Thread Cameron Smith
Thanks Tony.

Looks like it's possibly handled in this file:
https://sourceforge.net/p/net-snmp/code/ci/master/tree/agent/mibgroup/host/hr_disk.c

I will dig :)

Cameron

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Tony Mountifield 
wrote:

> In article  mail.gmail.com>,
> Cameron Smith  wrote:
> > We are running into an issue relating to snmpd and the temporary
> partitions
> > created in /run/user/ so any insight by someone with magical
> > net-snmp skills would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Our monitoring app walks all our servers.
> > We modify /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf on all our servers to just have one line:
> > rocommunity ourcommnuityname monitor.ing.app.ip
> >
> > This has worked just fine for almost 10 years.
> >
> > Since the release of CentOS 7 we are getting alerts for partitions not
> > being found during walks and these are the temporary partitions that are
> > ephemeral while a user is logged in:
> > /run/user/0
> > /run/user/65000
> >
> > Seems if the partition is there when the monitor is set or is added while
> > the monitor is active the monitor will keep looking for it and these are
> > meant to go away.
> >
> > We thought "OK we can just ignore those" so we added a line to
> > /etc/snmpd.conf :
> > ignoredisk /run/user/*
> >
> > but that has not helped :(
> >
> > Does anybody have a recommendation on how we can stop those partitions
> from
> > being seen on walks so we can stop being alerted about partitions for
> which
> > we are not interested in monitoring their available space?
>
> I had a quick play with it on a C7 VM, and found the same as you have.
>
> It would appear that ignoredisk only allows you to specify device names
> (such as /dev/sda1 or /dev/cciss/*), and not mount points. For /run and
> /run/user/*, they are not mounted on devices but on tmpfs.
>
> I tried "ignoredisk tmpfs" to see if that would work, but it didn't appear
> to.
>
> It also doesn't help that the SNMP output for the mount table doesn't seem
> to include a column for the device that was mounted, only for the mount
> point.
> And all the mount points are listed as type "hrFSOther", so you can't tell
> the difference between real disks, tmpfs, and so on.
>
> You probably need to get the SRPM for net-snmp and have a look at the area
> of code that process "ignoredisk".
>
> Cheers
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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-12 Thread m . roth
Andrew Holway wrote:
>>
>> I think the points been made, can we all move along and let this thread
>> be.
>>
>
> SystemD RULES!
>
> :D

systemd may be worse than Sean Spicer (You *did* read the news
yesterday eve, right?)

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread m . roth
Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Wed, April 12, 2017 8:07 am, Alice Wonder wrote:
>> On 04/12/2017 05:59 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote:
>>> Why don't we discuss something ***less***
>>> controversial, like politics or religion?
>>
>> Even when I'm the one complaining (and I don't about systemd), I'm
>> always reminded of some TV clip I saw when I was young and can't place
>> of a bunch of old people complaining :
>>
>> "Well we've never done it that way before"

Of course, to be fair, there may have been a *reason* for not doing it
that way before
>
> To their credit one can say: some older people do realize that they didn't
> fit into "iPad generation". ;-)
>
I a) actively dislike Apple, and b) I want a *real* keyboard.

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Re: [CentOS] qcow2 --> logical volume

2017-04-12 Thread Philippe BOURDEU d'AGUERRE

Le 12/04/2017 à 15:31, Scott Gennari a écrit :

How would can you import/migrate this .qcow2 into a logical volume? Any
advice would be greatly appreciated.



- get size of qcow2 image:

qemu-img info yourFile.qcow2

- create a logical volume of same size:

ssm create -s xxxb -n yourLvName -p centos

- copy image:

qemu-img convert yourFile.qcow2 -O raw /dev/centos/yourLvName

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Wed, April 12, 2017 8:07 am, Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 04/12/2017 05:59 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote:
>> Why don't we discuss something ***less***
>> controversial, like politics or religion?
>>
>
> Even when I'm the one complaining (and I don't about systemd), I'm
> always reminded of some TV clip I saw when I was young and can't place
> of a bunch of old people complaining :
>
> "Well we've never done it that way before"

To their credit one can say: some older people do realize that they didn't
fit into "iPad generation". ;-)

Valeri


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[CentOS] qcow2 --> logical volume

2017-04-12 Thread Scott Gennari

Hello CentOS community members,

A hardware vendor provided us with a .qcow2 file to run on our KVM 
hypervisor file that will monitor/control said hardware (firewall). I'd 
like to import this .qcow2 to run as a logical volume (named 'server3') 
in an existing logical group named 'centos' on our CentOS Linux release 
7.1.1503 server.


Right now the .qcow2 file is sitting  /root partition with limited disk 
space. The logical group 'centos' is already setup with lots of free 
space. There are a few logical volumes already configured.



lvm> vgs
  VG #PV #LV #SN Attr   VSize VFree
  centos   1   5   1 wz--n- 1.82t 1.52t


lvm> lvs
  LV VG Attr   LSize   Pool Origin  Data% 
Meta%  Move Log Cpy%Sync Convert

  server1centos owi-aos--- 100.00g
  server2  centos -wi-a- 100.00g
  root   centos -wi-ao 50.00g
  swap   centos -wi-ao 4.00g

lvm> lvdisplay
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Path/dev/centos/swap
  LV Nameswap
  VG Namecentos
  LV UUIDoB3cTX-zujK-dkOa-IxU2-SsIf-HEM7-816nu1
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Creation host, time localhost, 2015-11-11 21:54:49 -0500
  LV Status  available
  # open 2
  LV Size4.00 GiB
  Current LE 1024
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors auto
  - currently set to 256
  Block device   253:0

  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Path/dev/centos/root
  LV Nameroot
  VG Namecentos
  LV UUIDiWHXnK-o6JN-Duzb-VyFc-yAjD-B65R-02t2aV
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Creation host, time localhost, 2015-11-11 21:54:52 -0500
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size50.00 GiB
  Current LE 12800
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors auto
  - currently set to 256
  Block device   253:1



  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Path/dev/centos/server1
  LV Nameserver1
  VG Namecentos
  LV UUIDzx23A5-oNJW-prbw-vdTo-mIBA-Olfr-EjaRja
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Creation host, time .xxx.xxx, 2016-06-01 15:17:32 -0400
  LV snapshot status source of
 server1 [active]
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size100.00 GiB
  Current LE 25600
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors auto
  - currently set to 256
  Block device   253:6

  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Path/dev/centos/server2
  LV Nameserver2
  VG Namecentos
  LV UUIDlzaBBu-hSMp-ZXSa-aVlS-hZJf-Ccfe-vdHatI
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Creation host, time x.xxx.xxx, 2017-03-21 11:35:24 -0400
  LV snapshot status active destination for server2
  LV Status  available
  # open 0
  LV Size100.00 GiB
  Current LE 25600
  COW-table size 50.00 GiB
  COW-table LE   12800
  Allocated to snapshot  35.76%
  Snapshot chunk size4.00 KiB
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors auto
  - currently set to 256
  Block device   253:8



How would can you import/migrate this .qcow2 into a logical volume? Any 
advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you,
Scott

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[CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-12 Thread Alice Wonder

On 04/12/2017 05:59 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote:

Why don't we discuss something ***less*** controversial, like 
politics or religion?



Even when I'm the one complaining (and I don't about systemd), I'm 
always reminded of some TV clip I saw when I was young and can't place 
of a bunch of old people complaining :


"Well we've never done it that way before"

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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-12 Thread Leroy Tennison
Why don't we discuss something ***less*** controversial, 
like politics or religion?

- Original Message -
From: "Karanbir Singh" 
To: "centos" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 6:19:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

On 09/04/17 05:39, Anthony K wrote:
> So, at which stage are you in w/ regards to adopting systemd?  Are you
> still ridiculing it, violently opposed to it, or have you mellowed to it?

I think the points been made, can we all move along and let this thread be.

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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/04/17 13:23, Andrew Holway wrote:
> 
> Thoughts? Experiances?
> 

been talking with the mattermost people to get an instance up in
centos.org space - more open source, more privacy and better terms of
service.

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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Andrew Holway
Don't think so. I'm getting slack mail from

Received: from mail-71-234.slack.com (mail-71-234.slack.com.
[166.78.71.234])

On 12 April 2017 at 14:35, Alice Wonder  wrote:

> On 04/12/2017 05:28 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
>
>> On 04/12/2017 05:23 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:
>>
>>> Hallo,
>>>
>>> Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a
>>> Slack
>>> for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and
>>> honestly,
>>> its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for
>>> computer centric discussion.
>>>
>>> https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2
>>> NTc5LTE0OTE5OTkyNTctMjkyNGU1NWQzOA
>>>
>>>
>>> My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to
>>> flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks
>>> and how
>>> to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a
>>> pastebin.
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Experiances?
>>>
>>>
>> Well it claims to have sent me an e-mail but so far it hasn't.
>>
>>
> Might be:
>
> Apr 12 12:29:23 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: warning: hostname ddit888.net
> does not resolve to address 211.72.214.34: Name or service not known
> Apr 12 12:29:23 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: connect from
> unknown[211.72.214.34]
> Apr 12 12:29:25 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: disconnect from
> unknown[211.72.214.34]
>
> Not sure, it connected and then disconnected at the right time but no
> message. All other maillog entries at the right time are accounted for.
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Alice Wonder

On 04/12/2017 05:28 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:

On 04/12/2017 05:23 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:

Hallo,

Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a
Slack
for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly,
its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for
computer centric discussion.

https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2NTc5LTE0OTE5OTkyNTctMjkyNGU1NWQzOA


My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to
flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks
and how
to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a
pastebin.

Thoughts? Experiances?



Well it claims to have sent me an e-mail but so far it hasn't.



Might be:

Apr 12 12:29:23 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: warning: hostname 
ddit888.net does not resolve to address 211.72.214.34: Name or service 
not known
Apr 12 12:29:23 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: connect from 
unknown[211.72.214.34]
Apr 12 12:29:25 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: disconnect from 
unknown[211.72.214.34]


Not sure, it connected and then disconnected at the right time but no 
message. All other maillog entries at the right time are accounted for.


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Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Alice Wonder

On 04/12/2017 05:23 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:

Hallo,

Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a Slack
for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly,
its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for
computer centric discussion.

https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2NTc5LTE0OTE5OTkyNTctMjkyNGU1NWQzOA

My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to
flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks and how
to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a
pastebin.

Thoughts? Experiances?



Well it claims to have sent me an e-mail but so far it hasn't.

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Re: [CentOS] Ignoring /run/user/X

2017-04-12 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article ,
Cameron Smith  wrote:
> We are running into an issue relating to snmpd and the temporary partitions
> created in /run/user/ so any insight by someone with magical
> net-snmp skills would be much appreciated.
> 
> Our monitoring app walks all our servers.
> We modify /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf on all our servers to just have one line:
> rocommunity ourcommnuityname monitor.ing.app.ip
> 
> This has worked just fine for almost 10 years.
> 
> Since the release of CentOS 7 we are getting alerts for partitions not
> being found during walks and these are the temporary partitions that are
> ephemeral while a user is logged in:
> /run/user/0
> /run/user/65000
> 
> Seems if the partition is there when the monitor is set or is added while
> the monitor is active the monitor will keep looking for it and these are
> meant to go away.
> 
> We thought "OK we can just ignore those" so we added a line to
> /etc/snmpd.conf :
> ignoredisk /run/user/*
> 
> but that has not helped :(
> 
> Does anybody have a recommendation on how we can stop those partitions from
> being seen on walks so we can stop being alerted about partitions for which
> we are not interested in monitoring their available space?

I had a quick play with it on a C7 VM, and found the same as you have.

It would appear that ignoredisk only allows you to specify device names
(such as /dev/sda1 or /dev/cciss/*), and not mount points. For /run and
/run/user/*, they are not mounted on devices but on tmpfs.

I tried "ignoredisk tmpfs" to see if that would work, but it didn't appear to.

It also doesn't help that the SNMP output for the mount table doesn't seem
to include a column for the device that was mounted, only for the mount point.
And all the mount points are listed as type "hrFSOther", so you can't tell
the difference between real disks, tmpfs, and so on.

You probably need to get the SRPM for net-snmp and have a look at the area
of code that process "ignoredisk".

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[CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack

2017-04-12 Thread Andrew Holway
Hallo,

Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a Slack
for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly,
its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for
computer centric discussion.

https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2NTc5LTE0OTE5OTkyNTctMjkyNGU1NWQzOA

My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to
flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks and how
to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a
pastebin.

Thoughts? Experiances?

Cheers,

Andrew
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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-12 Thread Andrew Holway
>
> I think the points been made, can we all move along and let this thread be.
>

SystemD RULES!

:D
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Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/04/17 05:39, Anthony K wrote:
> So, at which stage are you in w/ regards to adopting systemd?  Are you
> still ridiculing it, violently opposed to it, or have you mellowed to it?

I think the points been made, can we all move along and let this thread be.

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Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-12 Thread Alice Wonder

I think configuring NetworkManager not to touch it is the right solution.

Unless there are cases where NetworkManager ignores its configuration 
but I haven't seen those.


A fancier solution might be to have some kind of systemd script that 
rewrites it if and only if the unbound daemon has successfully started 
and I thought about looking in to doing that, but that means if the 
unbound daemon for some reason doesn't start, it would be using the less 
secure ISP provided DNS resolution and I'd rather have it fail so I know 
there's a problem and can investigate.


On 04/12/2017 02:02 AM, Nux! wrote:

OR just make the file immutable if it's so critical to you.

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- Original Message -

From: "Jon LaBadie" 
To: "CentOS mailing list" 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 07:16:22
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound



On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 01:40:21AM -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:

Hello list -

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90035/how-to-set-dns-resolver-in-fedora-using-network-manager

That says it works for CentOS 5 and I *suspect* the methods there (3 listed)
would work, but what is the best way with NetworkManager to set it up to use
the localhost for DNS ?

I'm paranoid about DNS spoofing and really prefer to have a local instance
of DNSSEC enforcing unbound running on my CentOS 7 virtual machines (e.g.
linode)

Currently I just use a cron job that runs once a minute to over-write was it
is /etc/resolv.conf so they don't use the DHCP assigned nameservers, but
that does leave a short window every time the network is restarted.


Besides the suggested configs, if still worried you could set up
an inotify watch on /etc/resolv.conf to let you know, or take
action, whenever it changes.

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Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-12 Thread Nux!
OR just make the file immutable if it's so critical to you.

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- Original Message -
> From: "Jon LaBadie" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 07:16:22
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 01:40:21AM -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
>> Hello list -
>> 
>> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90035/how-to-set-dns-resolver-in-fedora-using-network-manager
>> 
>> That says it works for CentOS 5 and I *suspect* the methods there (3 listed)
>> would work, but what is the best way with NetworkManager to set it up to use
>> the localhost for DNS ?
>> 
>> I'm paranoid about DNS spoofing and really prefer to have a local instance
>> of DNSSEC enforcing unbound running on my CentOS 7 virtual machines (e.g.
>> linode)
>> 
>> Currently I just use a cron job that runs once a minute to over-write was it
>> is /etc/resolv.conf so they don't use the DHCP assigned nameservers, but
>> that does leave a short window every time the network is restarted.
> 
> Besides the suggested configs, if still worried you could set up
> an inotify watch on /etc/resolv.conf to let you know, or take
> action, whenever it changes.
> 
> jon
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Re: [CentOS] Network Manager / CentOS 7 / local unbound

2017-04-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 01:40:21AM -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
> Hello list -
> 
> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90035/how-to-set-dns-resolver-in-fedora-using-network-manager
> 
> That says it works for CentOS 5 and I *suspect* the methods there (3 listed)
> would work, but what is the best way with NetworkManager to set it up to use
> the localhost for DNS ?
> 
> I'm paranoid about DNS spoofing and really prefer to have a local instance
> of DNSSEC enforcing unbound running on my CentOS 7 virtual machines (e.g.
> linode)
> 
> Currently I just use a cron job that runs once a minute to over-write was it
> is /etc/resolv.conf so they don't use the DHCP assigned nameservers, but
> that does leave a short window every time the network is restarted.

Besides the suggested configs, if still worried you could set up
an inotify watch on /etc/resolv.conf to let you know, or take
action, whenever it changes.

jon
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