Re: [CentOS] upgrading 7.5 ==> 7.6
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 10:47:54PM +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > Then I ran the upgrade, which went without any notable issues. Reboot > > works fine. the X login screen appears, I enter my credentials and log > > in. It goes through a lot of motions and eventually stops with the > > snowy/gray background from the Plymouth boot screen, but with nothing > > at all on it, and no mouse pointer. X is clearly running, but is not > > displaying my Mate desktop. > > > > I saved aside /var/log/messages and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, uploaded > > subsets of them to pastebin. the /var/log/messages subset is > > https://pastebin.com/MJR2T3Xz, while the xorg.0.log is > > https://pastebin.com/wrucd77z. > > > > Note the repeating (apparent) failures at the end of Xorg.0.log. > > They are fine, just normal chatter you get in there. > > However, the /var/log/messages does contain some issues with the video > driver e.g.: > > Dec 22 09:43:37 elitebox kernel: radeon :01:00.0: ring 0 stalled for more > than 10221msec > Dec 22 09:43:37 elitebox kernel: radeon :01:00.0: GPU lockup (current > fence id 0x02f3 last fence id 0x0302 on ring 0) > Dec 22 09:43:37 elitebox kernel: radeon :01:00.0: ring 0 stalled for more > than 10722msec > Dec 22 09:43:37 elitebox kernel: radeon :01:00.0: GPU lockup (current > fence id 0x02f3 last fence id 0x0302 on ring 0) > Dec 22 09:43:38 elitebox kernel: [drm:r600_ib_test [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: > fence wait failed (-35). > Dec 22 09:43:38 elitebox kernel: [drm:radeon_ib_ring_tests [radeon]] *ERROR* > radeon: failed testing IB on GFX ring (-35). > > That's indicative of either a GPU (i.e. graphics card) problem or a > driver issue. You can search on the 2nd from last line and there are > lots of hits on it but no real solution - I've seen "limit memory use > to 3G", "change PCI slot", "OpenGL bug" to "buy different card". a little hard to change the slot or buy a different card, when it is a laptop. :( > > > > I don't know what any of this has to do with Mate, but would appreciate > > your assistance. > > Almost certainly not. It's a kernel problem. > > > > > (I ran the update on a netbook and it went fine. both have Intel CPUs, > > the netbook has intel graphics, and the new-to-me-etc. laptop has a > > Radeon graphics chipset. I dunno if it makes any difference, or how to > > tell, or how to fix it, if it does.) > > > > Suggestions appreciated, in advance! > > > > You might like to try running a different distro on it to check - > possibly run Fedora 29 Live from a USB drive. If that works OK using an > updated Radeon kernel driver then you know the hardware is OK. > > P. Or perhaps the kernel-ml from elrepo ?? -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. --- Romans 5:8 (niv) -- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] upgrading 7.5 ==> 7.6
> > Then I ran the upgrade, which went without any notable issues. Reboot > works fine. the X login screen appears, I enter my credentials and log > in. It goes through a lot of motions and eventually stops with the > snowy/gray background from the Plymouth boot screen, but with nothing > at all on it, and no mouse pointer. X is clearly running, but is not > displaying my Mate desktop. > > I saved aside /var/log/messages and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, uploaded > subsets of them to pastebin. the /var/log/messages subset is > https://pastebin.com/MJR2T3Xz, while the xorg.0.log is > https://pastebin.com/wrucd77z. > > Note the repeating (apparent) failures at the end of Xorg.0.log. They are fine, just normal chatter you get in there. However, the /var/log/messages does contain some issues with the video driver e.g.: Dec 22 09:43:37 elitebox kernel: radeon :01:00.0: ring 0 stalled for more than 10221msec Dec 22 09:43:37 elitebox kernel: radeon :01:00.0: GPU lockup (current fence id 0x02f3 last fence id 0x0302 on ring 0) Dec 22 09:43:37 elitebox kernel: radeon :01:00.0: ring 0 stalled for more than 10722msec Dec 22 09:43:37 elitebox kernel: radeon :01:00.0: GPU lockup (current fence id 0x02f3 last fence id 0x0302 on ring 0) Dec 22 09:43:38 elitebox kernel: [drm:r600_ib_test [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: fence wait failed (-35). Dec 22 09:43:38 elitebox kernel: [drm:radeon_ib_ring_tests [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: failed testing IB on GFX ring (-35). That's indicative of either a GPU (i.e. graphics card) problem or a driver issue. You can search on the 2nd from last line and there are lots of hits on it but no real solution - I've seen "limit memory use to 3G", "change PCI slot", "OpenGL bug" to "buy different card". > > I don't know what any of this has to do with Mate, but would appreciate > your assistance. Almost certainly not. It's a kernel problem. > > (I ran the update on a netbook and it went fine. both have Intel CPUs, > the netbook has intel graphics, and the new-to-me-etc. laptop has a > Radeon graphics chipset. I dunno if it makes any difference, or how to > tell, or how to fix it, if it does.) > > Suggestions appreciated, in advance! > You might like to try running a different distro on it to check - possibly run Fedora 29 Live from a USB drive. If that works OK using an updated Radeon kernel driver then you know the hardware is OK. P. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] upgrading 7.5 ==> 7.6
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 04:33:59PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 01:06:14PM -0800, Alice Wonder wrote: > > On 12/21/18 12:44 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > > >On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 06:27:45PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > >>On 2018-12-19, Fred Smith > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>[...] > > >> > > >>>Result: Boots to GDM just fine, but Mate is a black screen. Switching > > >>>to Gnome, works fine, but I can't stand Gnome. Not knowing what else > > >>>to try I restored the dd backup. > > >> > > >>This is a known issue, and was mentioned on this list recently. The > > >>problem is that Mate in EPEL needs to be updated to work with CentOS > > >>7.6. Perhaps keep an eye on changes to the EPEL repo before attempting > > >>the upgrade again. > > > > > >Thanks, Liam, for the info. > > > > > >Since it IS working on the netbook I'm hoping that means that whatever > > >needed updating has been updated. > > > > > >So, I compared the versions on my desktop with those on the netbook, and > > >find that mate_dictionary, mate-disk-usage-analyzer, mate-screenshot, > > >mate-search-tool, mate-system-log, mate-system-monitor, mate-utilsk, > > >mate-utils-common all had a minor version bump. Some from 1.16.1-1 to > > >1.16.1-2, one from 1.16.0-1 to 1.16.0-2. > > > > > >I know there are other packages that do not contain "mate" in their names, > > >but I don't know which they are. > > > > > >So, do you (or anyone else) happen to know which Mate packages are/were > > >in need of update? > > > > > >thanks again, in advance. > > > > > > > Not sure, MATE is working just fine for me, versions range from > > 1.16.0 to 1.16.3 > > > > yum list |grep "mate" |grep -v "@epel" |grep -v "devel" > > mate-menus-preferences-category-menu.x86_64 > > classmate.noarch 1.3.1-2.el7 epel > > classmate-javadoc.noarch 1.3.1-2.el7 epel > > f22-backgrounds-mate.noarch 21.91.0-1.el7 epel > > mate-common.noarch 1.16.0-1.el7 epel > > mate-netspeed.x86_64 1.12.0-1.el7 epel > > mate-sensors-applet.x86_64 1.16.1-1.el7 epel > > mate-themes-extras.noarch3.14.7-1.el7 epel > > php-league-climate.noarch3.2.4-1.el7 epel > > workrave-mate.x86_64 1.10.16-1.el7 epel > > xmonad-mate.x86_64 0.11-12.el7 epel > > > > Some of those obviously are not mate packages, but those are the > > only mate packages I do NOT have installed and it is working, so if > > mate is not working I wonder if the issue is something other than > > the packages. > > > Good question, Alice. I guess I need to go back to trying the upgrade > again on my new-to-me-but-still-pretty-old laptop, where it failed a week > or so ago. If that works I'll be slightly less paranoid about trying it > on my main desktop box, which I definitely do NOT want to screw up. > > Or maybe plug in a 1tb usb drive and install on it and see what happens. > > Fred So,... for my new-to-me-but-old laptop, I plugged in a USB drive and saved a dd image of the laptop's HD into a file on the USB drive. Then I ran the upgrade, which went without any notable issues. Reboot works fine. the X login screen appears, I enter my credentials and log in. It goes through a lot of motions and eventually stops with the snowy/gray background from the Plymouth boot screen, but with nothing at all on it, and no mouse pointer. X is clearly running, but is not displaying my Mate desktop. I saved aside /var/log/messages and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, uploaded subsets of them to pastebin. the /var/log/messages subset is https://pastebin.com/MJR2T3Xz, while the xorg.0.log is https://pastebin.com/wrucd77z. Note the repeating (apparent) failures at the end of Xorg.0.log. I don't know what any of this has to do with Mate, but would appreciate your assistance. (I ran the update on a netbook and it went fine. both have Intel CPUs, the netbook has intel graphics, and the new-to-me-etc. laptop has a Radeon graphics chipset. I dunno if it makes any difference, or how to tell, or how to fix it, if it does.) Suggestions appreciated, in advance! Fred -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." --- Corinthians 5:21 - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Fedora Server - as an alternative ?
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:12 AM lejeczek via CentOS wrote: > any Centosian here have done something different than only > contemplated using Fedora Server, actually worked on it in > test/production envs. > > If here are some folks who have done it I want to ask if you deem it to > be a viable option to put it on at least portion of servers stack. I did a project 15 years ago converting a centralized web server to individual Fedora containers for 500 orgs. > Since Fedora only updates for 18 months after release, having to upgrade each container to a new version annually was painful. Yeah it’s only this php thing breaks or that perl module does something different. But when you multiply that by 500x it gets painful quickly. After having done that a time or two converted to centos containers which made for less work for the admins and fewer angry users. Another project used Fedora as a LAN router which worked great, but again annual updates/reinstalls/reconfigurations got old. Migrated to pfSense with a clicky-clicky UI which a junior admin can configure and couldn’t be happier. Granted pfSense upgrades sometimes break, but 10 clicks later everything needed is reconfigured and working. Don’t get me wrong, Fedora has its place but sometimes needs a little more care-and-feeding than some other choices for any given problem/solution. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
