Re: [CentOS] Performance issues/difference of two servers running same task (one is quicker)

2019-07-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 10:46:19AM -0700, Gordon Messmer 
(gordon.mess...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On 7/3/19 11:43 PM, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> >  - How can it be that the DELL takes so much longer alltough on the far 
> > better hardware?
> It looks like the DIY system has a CPU that's nearly twice as fast
> as the Dell's.  The additional CPU in the Dell will run more tasks
> concurrently, but it won't make a single process faster.
> 
> You might also think that the SSD RAID would make the Dell faster,
> but that will only be true if the process that you're testing
> performs a significant amount of IO.  If your DB operations are
> happening mostly in memory (that is, if the data is cached), then
> the faster CPU will be the primary determining factor.

I made the buffer pool size on the DELL double the size of the DIY
when I started trying to figure out why the speed difference.

> 
> The other thing that you left out of your description is the amount
> of data on each server.  If your live server has a lot of data in
> its DB and the dev system has a small dataset suitable for testing,
> then generally you'd expect that the dev system's data is more
> likely to live in cache and avoid disk IO, and processing the
> smaller set will also take less CPU time.

Most of the DB's are small as they contain websites.
The biggest DB is the Online Training DB, which are the same on both machine
as I constantly copy the data from the life server to the DIY.



Very good analysis indeed.
Makes total sense.


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Re: [CentOS] Performance issues/difference of two servers running same task (one is quicker)

2019-07-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:07:35AM +0200, Simon Matter via CentOS 
(centos@centos.org) wrote:
> > Hi
> 
> Two ideas:
> 
> a) the DELL maybe faster over all but if I'm right single core speed is
> slower than on DEV machine.

Yes, but since BOTH have "other" things to do at the same time the sheer number 
of CPUs of the DELL should help

> 
> b) how do the LSI/SSD perform compared to the MDADM/RAID0 on the DEV
> server? I'm not sure the DELL is a clear winner here.

See my answer to the disk task test to another email.

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Re: [CentOS] Performance issues/difference of two servers running same task (one is quicker)

2019-07-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:39:18AM +0200, Roberto Ragusa 
(m...@robertoragusa.it) wrote:
> On 7/4/19 8:43 AM, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> >Clearly the development server is hardware wise way below the specs of the 
> >Dell but
> >software wise they are identical (they get upgraded at the same time).
> As a first step, you have to test subsystems one by one.

Thank you for the tips.
Here are the results (DELL is faster overall):

> time dd 2>/dev/null if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1 count=100

[DIY ~] #>time dd 2>/dev/null if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1 count=100
real0m1.931s
user0m1.022s
sys 0m0.896s
[DELL ~] #>time dd 2>/dev/null if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1 count=100
real0m1.308s
user0m0.389s
sys 0m0.919s

Dell faster overall

> cd /a/directory/on/the/filesystem/you/want/to/test
> time bash -c "for((i=0;i<1000;i++)); do dd 2>/dev/null if=/dev/zero of=test 
> bs=1 count=1 conv=fsync;done"
> rm test

[DIY /mnt] #>time bash -c "for((i=0;i<1000;i++)); do dd 2>/dev/null 
if=/dev/zero of=test bs=1 count=1 conv=fsync;done"
real1m12.944s
user0m1.604s
sys 0m2.595s
[DELL /mnt] #>time bash -c "for((i=0;i<1000;i++)); do dd 2>/dev/null 
if=/dev/zero of=test bs=1 count=1 conv=fsync;done"
real0m2.270s
user0m0.509s
sys 0m1.475s

Expected the DIY to be slower here, it's running MDADM RAID1 on Seagete 
Spinners compared to LSI RAID1 SSD

The result shows the DELL overall is faster, back to the drawing board after I 
followed all the other hints in this thread.


Jobst
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Re: [CentOS] Have you run "tuned-adm profile throughput-performance" ?

2019-07-05 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 11:48:45AM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 7/4/19 10:18 PM, Steven Tardy wrote:
> >I would also look at power settings in the BIOS and c-state settings in the
> >BIOS and OS as disabling c-states (often enabled by default to meet
> >green/energy star compliance) can make a noticeable performance difference.
> 
> 
> I'd be surprised if it did, but now that you mention it, I think
> that we should probably mention more often that CentOS's default
> performance policy is power-saving, which will cut maximum
> performance in half.  Every physical system running CentOS should
> have run "tuned-adm profile throughput-performance".
> 
> http://jperrin.org/centos/boosting-centos-server-performance/

Not for my (admittedly dog-like) AcerAspire One netbook, dual core
1.6 GHz Aton with a whopping 2 gigs of RAM.

it would run for a little while, pause for a minute or two while the
hard drive went chunka-chunka, then eventually come back to life.
not pleasant.

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[CentOS-docs] Request to edit https://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/AWS

2019-07-05 Thread Jeff Bachtel
The list of non-AWS Marketplace AMIs in https://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/AWS
is extremely outdated. I would like to request either edit permissions (or,
more likely because you don't know me) an active editor of the page who
would not mind edits being submitted via email.

Username: JeffreyBachtel
Location: Cloud/AWS

Thanks and regards,
Jeff
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Re: [CentOS] Have you run "tuned-adm profile throughput-performance" ?

2019-07-05 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 7/5/19 11:48 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 7/4/19 10:18 PM, Steven Tardy wrote:
I would also look at power settings in the BIOS and c-state settings 
in the

BIOS and OS as disabling c-states (often enabled by default to meet
green/energy star compliance) can make a noticeable performance 
difference.


I'd be surprised if it did,



I take that back.  Disabling power-saving in the firmware probably also 
disabled CPU frequency scaling, which would prevent CentOS's default 
policy from scaling the frequency down to its minimum, so I wouldn't be 
surprised.


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[CentOS] Have you run "tuned-adm profile throughput-performance" ?

2019-07-05 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 7/4/19 10:18 PM, Steven Tardy wrote:

I would also look at power settings in the BIOS and c-state settings in the
BIOS and OS as disabling c-states (often enabled by default to meet
green/energy star compliance) can make a noticeable performance difference.



I'd be surprised if it did, but now that you mention it, I think that we 
should probably mention more often that CentOS's default performance 
policy is power-saving, which will cut maximum performance in half.  
Every physical system running CentOS should have run "tuned-adm profile 
throughput-performance".


http://jperrin.org/centos/boosting-centos-server-performance/


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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 15:31:14 +
From: Johnny Hughes 
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2019:1338  CentOS 7 glibc BugFix
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2019:1338 

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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2019:1333 

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