Re: [CentOS] CentOS Amazon Machine Image?

2019-08-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 8/20/19 7:13 PM, Jon Pruente wrote:

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Robert Moskowitz 
wrote:


Tru, it is getting me closer.  Next step is to figure out how to get
this image on an EC2 instance.  Or whatever it is suppose to be called.

AH, I think I have it.  The Centos Image is free, but the infrastructure
cost is $0.012/hr which means 1 image per free in the free tier.
Additional images come out to $9/mo.

So if I have this right, I can play around all I want and learn on a
single image, but 2nd image will cost.


It's an AMI (Amazon Machine Image). You launch a new EC2 instance and in
the setup you can search for and choose the CentOS one. It wasn't in the
first search page for me, I had to click further into "AWS Marketplace" to
find it. AWS bills per hour (though some newer AWS stuff is moving to
per-second). In the free tier you get 750 hours of t2.micro run time for
free. A typical month is 744 hours. You can split that up however you want.
Run 75 instances for 10 hours each? Sure. Run 750 instances for 1 hour
each? Sure. AWS billing can get complex, but be aware that you can be
charged for run time of your instance(s), additional storage space,
bandwidth overages, etc. There isn't much to worry about if you are being
reasonable but TANSTAAFL so read through https://aws.amazon.com/free/ and
understand what the limitations are.


I am attempting to learn AWS to have that in my 'toolbox'.  For Centos 
work I have my armv7 boxen:


http://www.htt-consult.com/arm.html

But I wanted to see if I could reasonably work with AWS as an alternative.

More to learn.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Amazon Machine Image?

2019-08-20 Thread Jon Pruente
On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Robert Moskowitz 
wrote:

> Tru, it is getting me closer.  Next step is to figure out how to get
> this image on an EC2 instance.  Or whatever it is suppose to be called.
>
> AH, I think I have it.  The Centos Image is free, but the infrastructure
> cost is $0.012/hr which means 1 image per free in the free tier.
> Additional images come out to $9/mo.
>
> So if I have this right, I can play around all I want and learn on a
> single image, but 2nd image will cost.
>

It's an AMI (Amazon Machine Image). You launch a new EC2 instance and in
the setup you can search for and choose the CentOS one. It wasn't in the
first search page for me, I had to click further into "AWS Marketplace" to
find it. AWS bills per hour (though some newer AWS stuff is moving to
per-second). In the free tier you get 750 hours of t2.micro run time for
free. A typical month is 744 hours. You can split that up however you want.
Run 75 instances for 10 hours each? Sure. Run 750 instances for 1 hour
each? Sure. AWS billing can get complex, but be aware that you can be
charged for run time of your instance(s), additional storage space,
bandwidth overages, etc. There isn't much to worry about if you are being
reasonable but TANSTAAFL so read through https://aws.amazon.com/free/ and
understand what the limitations are.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Amazon Machine Image?

2019-08-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz




On 8/20/19 4:51 PM, Tru Huynh wrote:

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 02:04:29PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I am totally new to AWS.  There was a posting here ~ a year ago
making claims about setting up a CentOS image on AWS.


...

Any pointers greatly appreciated.

https://www.centos.org/
-> Get CentOS
https://www.centos.org/download/
...
Need a Cloud or Container Image?
->  Amazon Web Services
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/seller-profile?id=16cb8b03-256e-4dde-8f34-1b0f377efe89

Does that help ?


Tru, it is getting me closer.  Next step is to figure out how to get 
this image on an EC2 instance.  Or whatever it is suppose to be called.


AH, I think I have it.  The Centos Image is free, but the infrastructure 
cost is $0.012/hr which means 1 image per free in the free tier.  
Additional images come out to $9/mo.


So if I have this right, I can play around all I want and learn on a 
single image, but 2nd image will cost.


Interesting.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Amazon Machine Image?

2019-08-20 Thread Tru Huynh
On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 02:04:29PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I am totally new to AWS.  There was a posting here ~ a year ago
> making claims about setting up a CentOS image on AWS.
> 
...
> 
> Any pointers greatly appreciated.
https://www.centos.org/
-> Get CentOS
https://www.centos.org/download/
...
Need a Cloud or Container Image?
->  Amazon Web Services 
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/seller-profile?id=16cb8b03-256e-4dde-8f34-1b0f377efe89

Does that help ?

Cheers

Tru

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Re: [CentOS] OT: mostly gone

2019-08-20 Thread Valeri Galtsev




On 2019-08-20 14:07, Fred Smith wrote:

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 09:33:22AM -0400, mark wrote:

Hi, folks,

Well, it's ten years that I've been on this list, right when I started
this job. But, it's time to move on... I'm retiring. (Yeah, that old.)


Congratulations on making it that far, Mark!
I'm also retired, but keep getting calls from my former employer
since they never bothered to have anyone else learn what it was
I did. :(


Well, it is much easier to do something from scratch [you way], that to 
learn what and how another person did to modify it for new requirements. 
And faster. I know it on my hide.




At least they pay me for that...


So, though I'll be part time for a few months, and running CentOS at
home (in spite of my manager's pushing me to do Ubuntu). This list is
*so* much more useful than any of the ones I've seen for Ubuntu, or
much else.

I'm very much looking forward to C 8.

One more thing: I know I've been over the top on ethics "I work for a
US federal contractor, but not saying more", even though there's folks
like Todd, who's military. Anyway, now that I'm out, today, my line (in
person) was, "I'm with the federal goverment, and I'm here to help
you." Then, after they ask if I'll have to kill them, I can say, no:
I've been with the NIH, and so, yes, I really meant it.

 I'll show up occasionally, but not like I have been.

 So long, and thanks for all the fish.

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] OT: mostly gone

2019-08-20 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 09:33:22AM -0400, mark wrote:
> Hi, folks,
> 
>Well, it's ten years that I've been on this list, right when I started
> this job. But, it's time to move on... I'm retiring. (Yeah, that old.)

Congratulations on making it that far, Mark!
I'm also retired, but keep getting calls from my former employer
since they never bothered to have anyone else learn what it was
I did. :(

At least they pay me for that...

> So, though I'll be part time for a few months, and running CentOS at
> home (in spite of my manager's pushing me to do Ubuntu). This list is
> *so* much more useful than any of the ones I've seen for Ubuntu, or
> much else.
> 
>I'm very much looking forward to C 8.
> 
>One more thing: I know I've been over the top on ethics "I work for a
> US federal contractor, but not saying more", even though there's folks
> like Todd, who's military. Anyway, now that I'm out, today, my line (in
> person) was, "I'm with the federal goverment, and I'm here to help
> you." Then, after they ask if I'll have to kill them, I can say, no:
> I've been with the NIH, and so, yes, I really meant it.
> 
> I'll show up occasionally, but not like I have been.
> 
> So long, and thanks for all the fish.
> 
>  mark
> 
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[CentOS] CentOS Amazon Machine Image?

2019-08-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am totally new to AWS.  There was a posting here ~ a year ago making 
claims about setting up a CentOS image on AWS.


I have created a free AWS account and am looking at the available images.

None are named CentOS.  There is a Redhat Enterprise Linux 8 and 
Amazon's own Linux and SUSE, Ubuntu, but I don't find CentOS.


This is a learning endeavor.  I was thinking to first set up a BIND 
slave for my domain.  Then move on to a http image, then work with 
MariaDB.  All to see what I can do with AWS that is familiar to what I 
do on my own servers.


Any pointers greatly appreciated.


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[CentOS] OT: mostly gone

2019-08-20 Thread mark
Hi, folks,

   Well, it's ten years that I've been on this list, right when I started
this job. But, it's time to move on... I'm retiring. (Yeah, that old.)
So, though I'll be part time for a few months, and running CentOS at
home (in spite of my manager's pushing me to do Ubuntu). This list is
*so* much more useful than any of the ones I've seen for Ubuntu, or
much else.

   I'm very much looking forward to C 8.

   One more thing: I know I've been over the top on ethics "I work for a
US federal contractor, but not saying more", even though there's folks
like Todd, who's military. Anyway, now that I'm out, today, my line (in
person) was, "I'm with the federal goverment, and I'm here to help
you." Then, after they ask if I'll have to kill them, I can say, no:
I've been with the NIH, and so, yes, I really meant it.

I'll show up occasionally, but not like I have been.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

 mark

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[CentOS] CUPS job handling

2019-08-20 Thread hw
Hi,

is it somehow possible to make CUPS automatically redirect jobs, and
following jobs, away from printers which can not print them to other
printers that can print them until the printers that couldn't print
them are again able to print them?

Like I have a bunch of label printers which are all the same, and all
of which are prone to run out of labels or out of ribbon every now and
then.  It can take hours or even days before someone can refill a
printer.  Hence it would be very useful if CUPS could be told
something like "if printer A doesn't print, move its current job to
printer B and divert all new jobs sent to A to printer B instead until
A prints again".


What exactly happens when a printer that is member of a class can not
print a job that was sent to the class?  Will the unprintable job be
automatically moved to another member of the same class, or will it
only be aborted and never printed?

With a class of two printers and one of them running out of labels,
/var/log/cups/error_log only holds:

... [Job 174733] Stopping unresponsive job.

What does this mean?  Has the job been printed or not?  Has it been
printed after I refilled the printer?
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Re: [CentOS] freeIPA version vs RHEL's

2019-08-20 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 8/19/19 10:42 AM, lejeczek via CentOS wrote:
> On 13/08/2019 13:33, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 01:02:58PM +0100, lejeczek via CentOS wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if anybody might version of freeIPA in RHEL?
>>>
>>> I hear it's 4.6.6 and if that's true then when will Centos get it I
>>> might ask.
>> RHEL 7.7 has FreeIPA 4.6.5, and eventually CentOS will get that
>> version, but it's currently got 4.6.4.  freeipa 4.6.6 looks like it
>> was released at the end of last month, too late to be included in
>> RHEL/CentOS 7.7.  Perhaps in a later release?
>>
> and how far behind are we Centosians with that rhel 7's 4.6.5 IPA?


You aren't behind at all.  You are on the latest release of what is in
RHEL 7.7.  This is enterprise linux. If you want the lasest versions of
things then run fedora.  That is what it does.




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