Re: [CentOS] Sound/missing sof firmware in CentOS since 8.4

2020-12-22 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:56:49 -0800
Kay Schenk wrote:

> Now on to other issues -- playing .wav files without benefit of GUI.

sox-14.4.2.0-29.el8.x86_64

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Re: [CentOS] Sound/missing sof firmware in CentOS since 8.4

2020-12-22 Thread Kay Schenk

Hell again --

I finally fixed my no sound with no firmware issue for my built-in Intel 
controlled speakers. I'm running on Stream 8 now. DNF was NOT picking up 
the two alsa packs I needed from -- 
http://mirror.datto.com/CentOS/8-stream/BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/ (just 
a random mirror)


But there they were...

alsa-sof-firmware-1.6-1.el8.noarch.rpm 



and

alsa-sof-firmware-debug-1.6-1.el8.noarch.rpm 



So I downloaded the rpms and installed with dnf using

dnf --allowerasing install (path to 
rpm)/alsa-sof-firmware-1.6-1.el8.noarch.rpm 



etc...

This kept my existing alsa main in tact and just added the firmware files.

Now on to other issues -- playing .wav files without benefit of GUI.


On 12/21/20 10:08 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:


Hello all --

I switched to Stream yesterday hoping it would fix some issues I'd 
been having with CentOS 8.4 but alas it did not.


I started out installing 8.2, maybe kernel 4.18.0 -147?, on my laptop 
about 2 months or so ago and the sound worked fine. Now, it does not. 
I seem to be running into this problem...


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1772498

I have located the rpm for this SOF package but as it states in this 
link, it can NOT be installed with my current alsa version. Thoughts? 
Guidance?




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Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-22 Thread Sergio Belkin
El mar, 22 dic 2020 a las 19:46, Sergio Belkin ()
escribió:

>
>
> El mar, 22 dic 2020 a las 18:54, Matthew Miller ()
> escribió:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 05:39:57PM -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>> > Edward, thanks for the reply, the tone has changed "if you don't like
>> > CentOS Stream well, you know pay Red Hat".
>> > "If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are
>> > concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you
>> to
>> > contact Red Hat about options."
>> >
>> > source: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
>>
>>
>> Again, please see
>> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/faq-centos-stream-updates#Q10
>>
>> The other options being addressed are not all "pay Red Hat".
>>
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> Let's see the CentOS Description:
> «A *community project* for ecosystem developers who want to see what is
> coming in the next version of RHEL and need to introduce changes that
> enable their hardware or software. It also provides a place to develop
> technologies and tools so they‘re ready for the next version of RHEL»
>
> Definitely, is not a CentOS replacement. Again, everything points to Red
> Hat. I see that the focus is developer. I see no place for sysadmins...
>
> *Sorry I meant "CentOS Stream Description"


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Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-22 Thread Sergio Belkin
El mar, 22 dic 2020 a las 18:54, Matthew Miller ()
escribió:

> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 05:39:57PM -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> > Edward, thanks for the reply, the tone has changed "if you don't like
> > CentOS Stream well, you know pay Red Hat".
> > "If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are
> > concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you
> to
> > contact Red Hat about options."
> >
> > source: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
>
>
> Again, please see
> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/faq-centos-stream-updates#Q10
>
> The other options being addressed are not all "pay Red Hat".
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Let's see the CentOS Description:
«A *community project* for ecosystem developers who want to see what is
coming in the next version of RHEL and need to introduce changes that
enable their hardware or software. It also provides a place to develop
technologies and tools so they‘re ready for the next version of RHEL»

Definitely, is not a CentOS replacement. Again, everything points to Red
Hat. I see that the focus is developer. I see no place for sysadmins...

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Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 05:39:57PM -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Edward, thanks for the reply, the tone has changed "if you don't like
> CentOS Stream well, you know pay Red Hat".
> "If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are
> concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you to
> contact Red Hat about options."
> 
> source: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/


Again, please see https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/faq-centos-stream-updates#Q10

The other options being addressed are not all "pay Red Hat".

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Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-22 Thread Sergio Belkin
El dom, 20 dic 2020 a las 16:13, Matthew Miller ()
escribió:

> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:43:25AM -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> > I feel up to now the predominant tone of communications both fron CentOS
> > and RH is as if CentOS **professional** users were stealing something to
> > RH...
>
> Can you point me to where you are seeing this tone in Red Hat and CentOS
> communications? Because what I see is basically the opposite: Red Hat and
> CentOS saying that's not the motivation at all.
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Edward, thanks for the reply, the tone has changed "if you don't like
CentOS Stream well, you know pay Red Hat".
"If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are
concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you to
contact Red Hat about options."

source: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

Is the PR what introduced the doubt about the CentOS Stream reliability...

I think that Red Hat is in its right to do with CentOS whatever it likes.
However there was a CentOS EOL that Red Hat from one day to the next
decided that it was not convenient to comply, wasn't it?

I think that if Centos Stream is just good enough to use in production
there is no need for Red Hat  advertisements in CentOS announcements. The
CentOS Community already knew that if it wanted guaranteed support and
beyoind it could pay and get Red Hat subscriptions.

At least there was a communication error.

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Re: [CentOS] Running script before reboot or shutdown

2020-12-22 Thread centos2


On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, at 10:50, Carlos Lopez wrote:
> Thanks centos2  but regarding your example, I cannot see where you 
> configure that this services needs to be stopped before anyone else

I conveniently overlooked that requirement. I'll have to get back to you on 
that...


> On 22/12/20, 15:22, "CentOS on behalf of cent...@foxengines.net" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, at 06:51, Carlos Lopez wrote:
> > I am trying to configure a script as a systemd service to run first 
> when a shutdown or reboot is called. This script execute some scp commands to 
> copy some files to other machines. My actual defined systemd’s file is:
> > 
> > [Unit]
> > Description=Remote copy some files before reboot/shutdown
> > Before=poweroff.target halt.target shutdown.target reboot.target
> > DefaultDependencies=no
> > 
> > [Service]
> > Type=simple
> > ExecStart=/bin/true
> > ExecStop=/usr/local/bin/remote_copy
> > RemainAfterExit=yes
> > 
> > [Install]
> > WantedBy=multi-user.target
> > 
> > But it doesn’t work. “remote_copy” is working when it is executed from 
> root shell. I am using CentOS-8 fully patched release.
> > 
> > Any idea what am I doing wrong?
> 
> I don't have a CentOS 8 machine to test on but on a CentOS 7.9, this 
> works for me:
> 
> /etc/systemd/system/shutdown-test.service
> 
> --
> [Unit]
> Description=Remote copy some files before reboot/shutdown
> 
> [Service]
> Type=oneshot
> ExecStart=/bin/true
> ExecStop=/usr/local/bin/remote_copy
> RemainAfterExit=true
> 
> [Install]
> WantedBy=multi-user.target
> --
> 
> the mode and contents of remote_copy:
> 
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44 Dec 22 08:23 /usr/local/bin/remote_copy
> 
> --
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> date >> /tmp/remote_copy_result
> --
> 
> After enabling the service and rebooting, I get a file in 
> /tmp/remote_copy_result that contains the date.
> 
> My success is attributable not to me but to this post:
> 
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39226/how-to-run-a-script-with-systemd-right-before-shutdown
> Your unit file seems similar but when I used it, it didn't work on my 
> CentOS 7.9 system either.
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Re: [CentOS] Running script before reboot or shutdown

2020-12-22 Thread centos2



On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, at 08:12, cent...@foxengines.net wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, at 07:56, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote:
> > This could be the same issue that people run into when designing cron 
> > jobs.  You may only have a limited set of directories on you $PATH 
> 
> Is this a systemd limit? On one of my systems I've got 233 directories (5445 
> non-colon chars) in interactive shell PATH and generally things work fine.

I misunderstood your meaning about the PATH but I understand now. you're 
referring to the default path defined in the shell.
The Bash man page says, "The default path is system-dependent, and is set by 
the administrator who installs bash.", (so the CentOS packager?), and then 
continues on with "A common value is 
``/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin''." That covers 
putting the script in /usr/local/bin, but then, that might not be what's on 
your system. On the CentOS 7.9 system I am working with, the default is:

   /usr/bin:/bin

As reported by a very simple cron job that writes PATH to a file in tmp.
For cron jobs I usually use the full path to the script in the crontab then set 
and export the PATH in the script itself.

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Re: [CentOS] Running script before reboot or shutdown

2020-12-22 Thread Carlos Lopez
Thanks centos2  but regarding your example, I cannot see where you 
configure that this services needs to be stopped before anyone else


On 22/12/20, 15:22, "CentOS on behalf of cent...@foxengines.net" 
 wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, at 06:51, Carlos Lopez wrote:
> I am trying to configure a script as a systemd service to run first when 
a shutdown or reboot is called. This script execute some scp commands to copy 
some files to other machines. My actual defined systemd’s file is:
> 
> [Unit]
> Description=Remote copy some files before reboot/shutdown
> Before=poweroff.target halt.target shutdown.target reboot.target
> DefaultDependencies=no
> 
> [Service]
> Type=simple
> ExecStart=/bin/true
> ExecStop=/usr/local/bin/remote_copy
> RemainAfterExit=yes
> 
> [Install]
> WantedBy=multi-user.target
> 
> But it doesn’t work. “remote_copy” is working when it is executed from 
root shell. I am using CentOS-8 fully patched release.
> 
> Any idea what am I doing wrong?

I don't have a CentOS 8 machine to test on but on a CentOS 7.9, this works 
for me:

/etc/systemd/system/shutdown-test.service

--
[Unit]
Description=Remote copy some files before reboot/shutdown

[Service]
Type=oneshot
ExecStart=/bin/true
ExecStop=/usr/local/bin/remote_copy
RemainAfterExit=true

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
--

the mode and contents of remote_copy:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44 Dec 22 08:23 /usr/local/bin/remote_copy

--
#!/bin/bash

date >> /tmp/remote_copy_result
--

After enabling the service and rebooting, I get a file in 
/tmp/remote_copy_result that contains the date.

My success is attributable not to me but to this post:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39226/how-to-run-a-script-with-systemd-right-before-shutdown
Your unit file seems similar but when I used it, it didn't work on my 
CentOS 7.9 system either.
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Re: [CentOS] Running script before reboot or shutdown

2020-12-22 Thread centos2
Hi,

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, at 06:51, Carlos Lopez wrote:
> I am trying to configure a script as a systemd service to run first when a 
> shutdown or reboot is called. This script execute some scp commands to copy 
> some files to other machines. My actual defined systemd’s file is:
> 
> [Unit]
> Description=Remote copy some files before reboot/shutdown
> Before=poweroff.target halt.target shutdown.target reboot.target
> DefaultDependencies=no
> 
> [Service]
> Type=simple
> ExecStart=/bin/true
> ExecStop=/usr/local/bin/remote_copy
> RemainAfterExit=yes
> 
> [Install]
> WantedBy=multi-user.target
> 
> But it doesn’t work. “remote_copy” is working when it is executed from root 
> shell. I am using CentOS-8 fully patched release.
> 
> Any idea what am I doing wrong?

I don't have a CentOS 8 machine to test on but on a CentOS 7.9, this works for 
me:

/etc/systemd/system/shutdown-test.service

--
[Unit]
Description=Remote copy some files before reboot/shutdown

[Service]
Type=oneshot
ExecStart=/bin/true
ExecStop=/usr/local/bin/remote_copy
RemainAfterExit=true

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
--

the mode and contents of remote_copy:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44 Dec 22 08:23 /usr/local/bin/remote_copy

--
#!/bin/bash

date >> /tmp/remote_copy_result
--

After enabling the service and rebooting, I get a file in 
/tmp/remote_copy_result that contains the date.

My success is attributable not to me but to this post:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39226/how-to-run-a-script-with-systemd-right-before-shutdown
Your unit file seems similar but when I used it, it didn't work on my CentOS 
7.9 system either.
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Re: [CentOS] Running script before reboot or shutdown

2020-12-22 Thread centos2



On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, at 07:56, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote:
> This could be the same issue that people run into when designing cron 
> jobs.  You may only have a limited set of directories on you $PATH 

Is this a systemd limit? On one of my systems I've got 233 directories (5445 
non-colon chars) in interactive shell PATH and generally things work fine.

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Re: [CentOS] Running script before reboot or shutdown

2020-12-22 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
This could be the same issue that people run into when designing cron 
jobs.  You may only have a limited set of directories on you $PATH and 
other environment variables may be missing.  If this is the case, ensure 
that you define the full path to utilies:


MYPROG="/home/carlos/myprog"
$MYPROG -h

rather than

myprog -h

HTH, and BTW you can still use init scripts if it is easier.

On 22/12/2020 11:51, Carlos Lopez wrote:

Hi all,

I am trying to configure a script as a systemd service to run first when a 
shutdown or reboot is called. This script execute some scp commands to copy 
some files to other machines. My actual defined systemd’s file is:

[Unit]
Description=Remote copy some files before reboot/shutdown
Before=poweroff.target halt.target shutdown.target reboot.target
DefaultDependencies=no

[Service]
Type=simple
ExecStart=/bin/true
ExecStop=/usr/local/bin/remote_copy
RemainAfterExit=yes

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

But it doesn’t work. “remote_copy” is working when it is executed from root 
shell. I am using CentOS-8 fully patched release.

Any idea what am I doing wrong?

Regards,
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[CentOS] Running script before reboot or shutdown

2020-12-22 Thread Carlos Lopez
Hi all,

I am trying to configure a script as a systemd service to run first when a 
shutdown or reboot is called. This script execute some scp commands to copy 
some files to other machines. My actual defined systemd’s file is:

[Unit]
Description=Remote copy some files before reboot/shutdown
Before=poweroff.target halt.target shutdown.target reboot.target
DefaultDependencies=no

[Service]
Type=simple
ExecStart=/bin/true
ExecStop=/usr/local/bin/remote_copy
RemainAfterExit=yes

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

But it doesn’t work. “remote_copy” is working when it is executed from root 
shell. I am using CentOS-8 fully patched release.

Any idea what am I doing wrong?

Regards,
C. L. Martinez
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