Re: [CentOS] Resizing a QEMU guest display

2021-02-06 Thread Strahil Nikolov via CentOS
Have you tried to reach the VM via spice ?Also check if qemu's guest agent is 
runningin the VM.

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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 19:05:08 -0600
Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> Thank you, Stephen. I hope, someone of CentOS mail list admins makes that new
> list you suggested. Then the heat will be off both groups of people.

Me three?

I agree that sounds like a very reasonable action and a real solution.

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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 07:05:08PM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Feb 6, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> > 
> > I can ask for a generic-enterprise-nix (genix?) list on the CentOS mailman
> > and see if that can take up the traffic for the people who feel that they
> > want and need to talk about alternatives. If that is acceptable then people
> > can subscribe there and talk in detail about other operating systems
> > choices. 
> 
> When wise man gives a solution, I always think: how come this never occurred 
> to me?
> 
> Thank you, Stephen. I hope, someone of CentOS mail list admins makes that new 
> list you suggested. Then the heat will be off both groups of people.
> 

I just want to add that I, too, think this is a good idea.
There is a Tokyo Linux list that has been around since the 90's I think.
They wound up creating a second list, just for questions that were relevant
to Tokyo, but not to Linux, such as Japanese language questions. It worked
quite well, and is still in use, though that list too has slowed down quite
a bit in recent years.



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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Valeri Galtsev


> On Feb 6, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 15:57, Frank Cox  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:22:21 -0500
>> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> 
>> 1.) you assume people will clearly label their off topic threads
>> 
>> I think that in most cases that will happen, yes, since people with a
>> technical background understand that clarity and precision are important
>> when posting a question or observation or asking for advice.
>> 
>> 2.) as we’ve seen, those off topic threads often weave in and out of
>> on-topic threads until a moderator tells you to take it to another venue.
>> 
>> Which of course never happens now with threads that start off discussing
>> some aspect of Centos?
>>> 
>>> You’ll dilute the usefulness of this list to the point that it will be
>>> worthless for people who are interested in CentOS topics.
>> 
>> In your opinion.  On average, this is not a high-traffic mailing list and
>> I'd be really surprised if the traffic actually increased in any
>> significant way since a question that might today be asked about Centos
>> will be asked tomorrow about Rocky; either way, there's no net increase in
>> the traffic, just a change in the subject line.
>> 
>> 
> I have now administered mailing lists for 25+ years and I have found that
> what happens is that off-topic traffic basically causes an echo chamber
> effect over time. The people having the side conversations get louder and
> louder over time not because the list gets larger but because they have
> 'driven' off the people who were here for a specific focus. The people
> remaining become more and more of an echo chamber moving the 'topic' to
> being wha
> 
> I realize that this has been a traumatic split in the culture for a lot of
> people (myself included), but there is a point where the list main topic of
> discussion will be on how to use/administer/fix CentOS Stream and CentOS-7
> versus Oracle/FreeBSD/Rocky/Alma/Debian/Slackware/etc.
> 
> I can ask for a generic-enterprise-nix (genix?) list on the CentOS mailman
> and see if that can take up the traffic for the people who feel that they
> want and need to talk about alternatives. If that is acceptable then people
> can subscribe there and talk in detail about other operating systems
> choices.  I do believe these conversations do need to happen but not
> everyone wants to hear the 4 Yorkshiremen skit every day as we 'old-timers'
> deal with our past.

When wise man gives a solution, I always think: how come this never occurred to 
me?

Thank you, Stephen. I hope, someone of CentOS mail list admins makes that new 
list you suggested. Then the heat will be off both groups of people.

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS-es] RHEL free?

2021-02-06 Thread orkcu via CentOS-es
Depende de que quieras decir por soporte, pues no solo los los srpm también los 
rpms están disponibles. Creo que lo que no puedes hacer es llamarlos y abrir un 
ticket con ellos, pero nadie te impide crear un ticket en bugzilla, solo que no 
te van a ayudar a "como se hace esto?"CuRoger
 Original message From: David González Romero 
 Date: 2021-02-06  3:16 p.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: Spanish 
CentOS list  Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] RHEL free? Aunque 
el soporte si está, porque ellos publican los SRPM que al final escomo si fuera 
el soporte. Bueno soporte de software...Saludos,DavidEl lun, 1 feb 2021 a las 
22:45, Victor Padro () escribió:> Estas en lo correcto, 
puedes utilizar hasta 16 instancias en desarrollo,> qa, producción o homelab 
pero sin soporte directo de RH.>> Saludos,>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 7:26 PM 
Aland Laines > wrote:>> > Alguien sabe algo de esto, o 
me podria explicar sus alcances?, hasta> donde> > entiendo RHEL en su programa 
developers ahora se puede usar en hasta 16> > instancias en produccion de 
manera gratuita o me equivoco?> >> > New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux 
programs: Easier ways to access> RHEL> > <> >> 
https://www.redhat.com/es/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel#Bookmark%201>
 > >> >> > [image: SGINFO Perú]> >> > Aland Laines Calonge> > IT Consultant | 
SGINFO Perú> > phone: +51 959 288 507> > email: aland.lai...@gmail.com> > 
address: Jr. Carlos Arrieta 123 - Barranco> > 
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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 15:57, Frank Cox  wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:22:21 -0500
> Jonathan Billings wrote:
>
> 1.) you assume people will clearly label their off topic threads
>
> I think that in most cases that will happen, yes, since people with a
> technical background understand that clarity and precision are important
> when posting a question or observation or asking for advice.
>
>  2.) as we’ve seen, those off topic threads often weave in and out of
> on-topic threads until a moderator tells you to take it to another venue.
>
> Which of course never happens now with threads that start off discussing
> some aspect of Centos?
> >
> >  You’ll dilute the usefulness of this list to the point that it will be
> > worthless for people who are interested in CentOS topics.
>
> In your opinion.  On average, this is not a high-traffic mailing list and
> I'd be really surprised if the traffic actually increased in any
> significant way since a question that might today be asked about Centos
> will be asked tomorrow about Rocky; either way, there's no net increase in
> the traffic, just a change in the subject line.
>
>
I have now administered mailing lists for 25+ years and I have found that
what happens is that off-topic traffic basically causes an echo chamber
effect over time. The people having the side conversations get louder and
louder over time not because the list gets larger but because they have
'driven' off the people who were here for a specific focus. The people
remaining become more and more of an echo chamber moving the 'topic' to
being wha

I realize that this has been a traumatic split in the culture for a lot of
people (myself included), but there is a point where the list main topic of
discussion will be on how to use/administer/fix CentOS Stream and CentOS-7
versus Oracle/FreeBSD/Rocky/Alma/Debian/Slackware/etc.

I can ask for a generic-enterprise-nix (genix?) list on the CentOS mailman
and see if that can take up the traffic for the people who feel that they
want and need to talk about alternatives. If that is acceptable then people
can subscribe there and talk in detail about other operating systems
choices.  I do believe these conversations do need to happen but not
everyone wants to hear the 4 Yorkshiremen skit every day as we 'old-timers'
deal with our past.


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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Valeri Galtsev
Sorry about top posting.

Though I can understand Jonathan’s feelings, I am with Frank on this subject. 
So, I will keep participating in “non-CentOS” discussions which may be useful 
to CentOS refugees, until I’m kicked out of the list, or such discussions 
become forcefully banned. As this - CentOS list - is the only place where all 
CentOS refugees may be present, and those fled to one distro may bring 
information helpful for those fled to different distro, and most logical place 
for it is this very list.

To CentOS fanats: I do understand your feelings. But try to understand those 
who had to flee CentOS because of CentOS’s (or RedHat’s, or IBM’s) recent 
decision. You only need to tolerate this  for about a year at the most, this 
inappropriate in your view thing will fade out on its own.

Former happy CentOS user (for over decade and a half) who still supports a 
bunch of CentOS number crunchers, - till EOL of respective release numbers.

Valeri

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Frank Cox  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:22:21 -0500
> Jonathan Billings wrote:
> 
> 1.) you assume people will clearly label their off topic threads
> 
> I think that in most cases that will happen, yes, since people with a 
> technical background understand that clarity and precision are important when 
> posting a question or observation or asking for advice.
> 
> 2.) as we’ve seen, those off topic threads often weave in and out of on-topic 
> threads until a moderator tells you to take it to another venue.
> 
> Which of course never happens now with threads that start off discussing some 
> aspect of Centos?
>> 
>> You’ll dilute the usefulness of this list to the point that it will be
>> worthless for people who are interested in CentOS topics.
> 
> In your opinion.  On average, this is not a high-traffic mailing list and I'd 
> be really surprised if the traffic actually increased in any significant way 
> since a question that might today be asked about Centos will be asked 
> tomorrow about Rocky; either way, there's no net increase in the traffic, 
> just a change in the subject line.
> 
>> You want a generic
>> rhel clone list?  Create one and post an announcement about it.
> 
> You're welcome to do that if that's your calling.  By all means, be my guest, 
> and so on.  Personally, I'm quite content using the mailing lists that I've 
> been using for years.  If I really have to sign up for some other mailing 
> lists then I can do that though it's not really my first choice of actions.  
> I really have no desire to run a mailing list of my own.  Again, though, 
> you're welcome to undertake that if you wish and I might even be convinced to 
> sign up for it.
> 
>> If you want to talk about Rocky or Oracle Linux, use their lists. This list 
>> is for CentOS.
> 
> Since neither you or I are the list manager, all we can do is express an 
> opinion.  I've expressed mine, you've expressed yours, and a few other folks 
> have chimed in too.   And we'll all get to find out what happens as time goes 
> on.
> 
>> If you have a question that is
>> codebase specific, then just ask it without talking about the distro it came
>> from, but as soon as it becomes clear that it is infrastructure related, keep
>> it on the appropriate list. 
> 
> And after going through all of the above, you ultimately agree with me after 
> all.
> 
> I generally read just the parts of this mailing list that are of interest to 
> me, and most questions and observations that I see here are about specific 
> programs/setups/why-did-this-just-explode.  Unless they're buried in some of 
> the threads that I skip over because they don't seem relevant to what I'm 
> doing, I see very few questions about infrastructure and the like.  Well, up 
> until about two months ago, that is.  And I'm pretty sure the infrastructure 
> stuff will calm down again after the big change-over at the end of this year.
> 
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:22:21 -0500
Jonathan Billings wrote:

1.) you assume people will clearly label their off topic threads

I think that in most cases that will happen, yes, since people with a technical 
background understand that clarity and precision are important when posting a 
question or observation or asking for advice.

 2.) as we’ve seen, those off topic threads often weave in and out of on-topic 
threads until a moderator tells you to take it to another venue.

Which of course never happens now with threads that start off discussing some 
aspect of Centos?
> 
>  You’ll dilute the usefulness of this list to the point that it will be
> worthless for people who are interested in CentOS topics.

In your opinion.  On average, this is not a high-traffic mailing list and I'd 
be really surprised if the traffic actually increased in any significant way 
since a question that might today be asked about Centos will be asked tomorrow 
about Rocky; either way, there's no net increase in the traffic, just a change 
in the subject line.

> You want a generic
> rhel clone list?  Create one and post an announcement about it.

You're welcome to do that if that's your calling.  By all means, be my guest, 
and so on.  Personally, I'm quite content using the mailing lists that I've 
been using for years.  If I really have to sign up for some other mailing lists 
then I can do that though it's not really my first choice of actions.  I really 
have no desire to run a mailing list of my own.  Again, though, you're welcome 
to undertake that if you wish and I might even be convinced to sign up for it.

> If you want to talk about Rocky or Oracle Linux, use their lists. This list 
> is for CentOS.

Since neither you or I are the list manager, all we can do is express an 
opinion.  I've expressed mine, you've expressed yours, and a few other folks 
have chimed in too.   And we'll all get to find out what happens as time goes 
on.

> If you have a question that is
> codebase specific, then just ask it without talking about the distro it came
> from, but as soon as it becomes clear that it is infrastructure related, keep
> it on the appropriate list. 

And after going through all of the above, you ultimately agree with me after 
all.

I generally read just the parts of this mailing list that are of interest to 
me, and most questions and observations that I see here are about specific 
programs/setups/why-did-this-just-explode.  Unless they're buried in some of 
the threads that I skip over because they don't seem relevant to what I'm 
doing, I see very few questions about infrastructure and the like.  Well, up 
until about two months ago, that is.  And I'm pretty sure the infrastructure 
stuff will calm down again after the big change-over at the end of this year.



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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Jonathan Billings

On Feb 5, 2021, at 23:24, Frank Cox  wrote:
> We'll see discussion of Rocky Linux and Oracle Linux ramping up on this 
> mailing list over the course of the next year for the above reason.  You can 
> stamp your little feet and say that such things don't belong here, or the 
> better option is to read what you're interested in and participate in the 
> discussions. Ignoring anything non-Centos and reading only Centos-specific 
> threads will likely be possible too if you really insist since a majority of 
> posters will probably put "Oracle" or "Rocky" or something like that into 
> their subject lines anyway.

That’s a poor argument,  you’re basically telling people that you can post 
about any topic unrelated to CentOS, and people can just read the CentOS 
related ones.  1.) you assume people will clearly label their off topic threads 
and 2.) as we’ve seen, those off topic threads often weave in and out of 
on-topic threads until a moderator tells you to take it to another venue.

 You’ll dilute the usefulness of this list to the point that it will be 
worthless for people who are interested in CentOS topics.  You want a generic 
rhel clone list?  Create one and post an announcement about it. If you want to 
talk about Rocky or Oracle Linux, use their lists. This list is for CentOS.

I’m not thrilled with the direction CentOS is going, but I’m not going to 
poison the wells and salt the earth.  The CentOS list has value for on topic 
conversation.

> Again, Centos/Rocky/Oracle all share a similar-to-identical codebase, so most 
> of what's applicable to one will likely be applicable to all so I don't see 
> it as being a big deal.

Perhaps there are going to be similar codebases, but the infrastructure and 
politics around each will vary widely.  If you have a question that is codebase 
specific, then just ask it without talking about the distro it came from, but 
as soon as it becomes clear that it is infrastructure related, keep it on the 
appropriate list. 

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Re: [CentOS-es] RHEL free?

2021-02-06 Thread David González Romero
Aunque el soporte si está, porque ellos publican los SRPM que al final es
como si fuera el soporte. Bueno soporte de software...

Saludos,
David

El lun, 1 feb 2021 a las 22:45, Victor Padro () escribió:

> Estas en lo correcto, puedes utilizar hasta 16 instancias en desarrollo,
> qa, producción o homelab pero sin soporte directo de RH.
>
> Saludos,
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 7:26 PM Aland Laines 
> wrote:
>
> > Alguien sabe algo de esto, o me podria explicar sus alcances?, hasta
> donde
> > entiendo RHEL en su programa developers ahora se puede usar en hasta 16
> > instancias en produccion de manera gratuita o me equivoco?
> >
> > New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to access
> RHEL
> > <
> >
> https://www.redhat.com/es/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel#Bookmark%201
> > >
> >
> > [image: SGINFO Perú]
> >
> > Aland Laines Calonge
> > IT Consultant | SGINFO Perú
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> > email: aland.lai...@gmail.com
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[CentOS] Resizing a QEMU guest display

2021-02-06 Thread Bill Gee
Hello everyone -

I think I know the answer, but just in case ...  I want to run it by the 
experts.

I have a machines running CentOS 7.  "uname -a" returns this:

Linux practice7.billgee.local 3.10.0-1160.15.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 3 
15:06:38 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86
_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

This machine has an nVidia GS8400 and uses the nouveau driver.  Its main job is 
to be a host for QEMU/KVM virtual machines.  The QEMU packages on the host are:

[bgee@practice7 ~]$ rpm -qa | grep qemu 
qemu-kvm-1.5.3-175.el7_9.3.x86_64 
qemu-guest-agent-2.12.0-3.el7.x86_64 
qemu-kvm-common-1.5.3-175.el7_9.3.x86_64 
qemu-img-1.5.3-175.el7_9.3.x86_64 
libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu-4.5.0-36.el7_9.3.x86_64 
ipxe-roms-qemu-20180825-3.git133f4c.el7.noarch

One of the guest VMs is Fedora 33.  The guest comes up with a display 
resolution of 1024x768.  I have not found a way to change it to something 
higher.  If I go to the Settings - Display item in Fedora, there is a long list 
of resolutions.  No matter what I choose, the system will switch to that 
resolution for about 1/2 second and then go back to 1024x768.

This happens when using VNC to connect remotely and also when running on the 
host computer.  Resizing the guest display window does nothing except make big 
black borders around the guest display.

The guest video configuration in the virtual machine manager is set for "QXL".  
In my searching I found several suggestions to use "virtio" instead.  When I 
make that change and start the guest, it immediately throws an error:

"This QEMU does not support 'virtio' video device"

I also tried "vmvga" and "cirrus".  The cirrus setting does not resize and also 
loses coordination of the mouse pointer.  The vmvga setting gives the same 
message about not being supported in this QEMU.

I verified that the spice-vdagent package is installed on the guest VM.

The virtual machine manager has "Resize guest with window" set to ON.

Just to make life really interesting...  Another guest VM on the same host is 
running CentOS7.  That machine happily resizes!  It is set for QXL in the 
virtual machine manager.

I think I am just out of luck.  I found some references which say that CentOS 7 
does not have support for virtio displays.  Is that right?  Is there some way 
to resize the Fedora guest?  I don't care about dynamic sizing by dragging a 
window border.  If I can choose something and have it stick, I would be happy.

Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] letsencrypt error

2021-02-06 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article ,
Jerry Geis  wrote:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion https://github.com/srvrco/getssl was not aware of
> that.
> I got so close... It says it loaded the certificate the files are there - I
> edited /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf and set the two paths to the right file.
> restrated httpd - all seemed good - but when I goto my site it did not work.
> So I re-ran with -f option and I get:
> 
> Registering account
> Verify each domain
> Verifying rsd.layeredsolutionsinc.com
> rsd.layeredsolutionsinc.com is already validated
> Verification completed, obtaining certificate.
> Requesting Finalize Link
> Requesting Order Link
> Requesting certificate
> Full certificate saved in /root/.getssl/XX/fullchain.crt
> Certificate saved in /root/.getssl/XX/rsd.layeredsolutionsinc.com.crt
> /root/.getssl/XX/XX.crt didn't match server
> getssl: XX - rsa certificate obtained but certificate on server is
> different from the new certificate
> 
> So close...
> Any thoughts on that are appreciated.   Idid searching and those issues
> dont seem to relate to my case.

Hi Jerry, you need to explore the configuration files. They are in 
.getssl/getssl.cfg
and .getssl//getssl.cfg

First, in .getssl//getssl.cfg you need to tell it where to copy the 
certificate
and key for the web server. They should match what you have in 
/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf
Here are my entries as an example:


# Location for all your certs, these can either be on the server (full path 
name)
# or using ssh /sftp as for the ACL
DOMAIN_CERT_LOCATION="/etc/pki/tls/certs/your.domain.name.crt" # this is domain 
cert
DOMAIN_KEY_LOCATION="/etc/pki/tls/private/your.domain.name.key" # this is 
domain key
CA_CERT_LOCATION="/etc/pki/tls/certs/chain.crt" # this is CA cert


Then secondly, in the global config .getssl/getssl.cfg you need to tell it how 
to
restart the web server to pick up the new certs, which it will do before testing
whether the new certificate is served correctly:


# The command needed to reload apache / nginx or whatever you use
RELOAD_CMD="/usr/sbin/apachectl graceful"


I think these are the only changes I made from the defaults.

Cheers
Tony

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