Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 13:39, Simon Matter wrote: > >> > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 12:31, Simon Matter >> wrote: >> > >> >> > Le 11/02/2021 à 17:08, Simon Matter a écrit : >> >> >> But, I'm a bit shocked to find EPEL 8 in such a bad shape of >> >> brokenness >> >> >> and incompleteness >> >> > >> >> > I've come to the same conclusion. >> >> > >> >> > For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones >> >> (CentOS >> >> > and >> >> > Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). >> >> > >> >> > I've moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, >> >> desktop >> >> > clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. >> >> >> >> In our situation it's not so easy to say server or client. We're >> running >> >> remote desktops over nx-libs, so, a server is also a client at the >> same >> >> time. >> >> >> >> I always new EPEL is not perfect but it was usable to some degree and >> >> that's why Red Hat told their customers about it and how to use it. >> But >> >> the current state of EPEL is sad. >> >> >> >> >> > EPEL is a volunteer driven repository and not many volunteers have >> been >> > available for EL8. Many of the past volunteers have retired or been >> > promoted out of positions they actually have time to do the work >> anymore. >> > Asking for replacements is not easy because most people who are >> interested >> > in EPEL just want the packages built. They have no want or clue to do >> the >> > work themselves and want someone else to do the work for them. This >> leads >> > to a lot of people expecting packages without anyone doing the work. >> >> I know what you mean but my case is a bit different. For ~ two decades >> I'm >> using Red Hat based distributions and built a large number of packages. >> There are even packages in RHEL which they took over from me with my >> permission. I'm maintaining quite a number of packages which sometimes >> also exist in EPEL but I always keep them up to date and available with >> the same version on all Red Hat based distributions of the past, even >> after EOL. Many of the packages are available as SRPMs to those >> interested. Usually we didn't use any critical package from EPEL because >> of the state of support it has. But it was handy to consume some slowly >> changing things like XFCE from EPEL. To find out now that even such >> things >> are now in a bad state is a bit sad. >> >> > My apologies, you did not deserve the rant, but the word 'sad' seems to > make me see red. I have been told things were 'sad' for EPEL from May of I didn't know others also called the current state 'sad' but that's what came to my mind when thinking about it. > 2019 until now over and over again. Unlike you, most of the people are > ones > who never volunteered a package but thought it was a 'given' that EPEL > would have all their packages for them. After more than a year of it.. it > is a tick and I should count to 100 before replying versus 50. > > In the end, it is a bad state of affairs, but I also think that it is how > things are going. There are a LOT of people who seem to expect that this > is > all for them FREE and that they can make as many demands as they want. > That > tires out volunteers and eventually you end up with what happened to all > the previous 3rd party repositories.. the volunteers stop showing up to > help out. So without a reason for people to volunteer or someone paying > the > 4+ people needed to do the work day in and day out, the repositories end > up > in a bad state. I'm just wondering why Red Hat as a company doesn't care more about what their paying customers get when using packages not found in RHEL. I think it's the worst experience of all compared to their competitors like Debian, Ubuntu or OpenSUSE. I'm quite sure this will drive more people away from RHEL in future than they think today. Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] el7 systemd service:: ensure var/log owner when User is specified
Is there any reason to use a service file to create the logs ?After all we got systemd-tmpfilesfor that purpose. Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS 7, selinux and pop_port_t
I am muddling my way through learning selinux when installing a webapp with
httpd as the webserver running CentOS 7. The app allows the user to
send/receive mail etc but it seems that I have yet to allow access to imap port
993. So far it seems this is configured through pop_port_t but setsebool
httpd_can_network_connect 1 does not include pop_port_t.
In the audit log I have:
type=AVC msg=audit(1613093671.415:155086): avc: denied { name_connect } for
pid=22431 comm="httpd" dest=993 scontext=system_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0
tcontext=system_u:object_r:pop_port_t:s0 tclass=tcp_socket permissive=0
Yet, running the below
sesearch -A -s httpd_t -c tcp_socket -p name_connect -d -C
tells me
ET allow httpd_t pop_port_t : tcp_socket name_connect ; [ httpd_can_sendmail ]
I am obviously missing something. Does anyone know how to enable access to
pop_port_t?
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[CentOS] Update - Resizing a QEMU guest display
Strahil Nikolov and I took this conversation off-line for a few days. The thread of our discussion is below. Net result: No solution is yet found. Strahil had some very good ideas, but they did not pan out in this case. For archiving - and in hope that someone may have some other ideas! - I post this back to the list. -- Bill Gee -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [CentOS] Resizing a QEMU guest display Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 10:38:08 PM CST From: Strahil Nikolov To: b...@campercaver.net, Bill Gee Erm... mine was spice-vdagent.service , and not '.socket'.Never mind, it could be something else. Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 21:52, Bill Gee wrote: I restarted spice-vdagentd.socket on the guest that will not resize. It still will not resize. [root@practice21a ~]# systemctl restart spice-vdagentd.socket [root@practice21a ~]# systemctl status spice-vdagentd.socket ● spice-vdagentd.socket - Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.socket; static) Active: active (listening) since Tue 2021-02-09 13:43:10 CST; 8s ago Triggers: ● spice-vdagentd.service Listen: /run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock (Stream) CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.socket Feb 09 13:43:10 practice21a.billgee.local systemd[1]: Listening on Activation socket for spice guest a> [root@practice21a ~]# ps ax | grep spice 3018 ?Ssl0:00 /usr/bin/spice-vdagent 3032 ?Ssl0:00 /usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd 3554 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto spice [root@practice21a ~]# But! Just to be sure, I checked the guest that WILL resize. There is no service on it called spice-vdagentd.socket! There is also no process with spice in the name. The guest that should work does not, and the guest that should not work does! -- Bill Gee On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 12:56:38 PM CST you wrote: > The serviceis indirect, which means that another unit has to 'call' it. Try > restarting the service in the VM. > # systemctl status spice-vdagentd.service ● spice-vdagentd.service - Agent > daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded > (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: > enabled) Active: active (running) since Mon 2021-02-08 22:31:06 EET; 22h > ago Main PID: 27963 (spice-vdagentd)Tasks: 1 CGroup: > /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.service └─27963 > /usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd Feb 08 22:31:06 openshift1 systemd[1]: Starting > Agent dae...Feb 08 22:31:06 openshift1 systemd[1]: Started Agent daem...Feb > 08 22:31:07 openshift1 spice-vdagentd[27963]: opening...Hint: Some lines were > ellipsized, use -l to show in full. > Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 20:50, Bill Gee wrote: > H I am missing something. Why would rebooting the entire computer > NOT restart the service? > > > And for that matter - Exactly what service are you talking about? Can you be > more specific? > > > > The service is of type indirect. Try to restart only the service (not the > > guest). > > > Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 20:31, Bill Gee wrote: > > > The host and all of its guests have been rebooted multiple times in the > > last two days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you restarted the service ?Yesterday I built a CentOS 7 system and > > > spice didn't resize untill I restarted the service. > > > > > > > Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 14:40, Bill Gee wrote: > > > Hi Strahil - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the link. Unfortunately it is not helpful. The spice agent > > > is already installed on the guest, and the spice channel is already > > > configured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [bgee@practice21a ~]$ rpm -qa | grep spice > > > > > > > spice-vdagent-0.20.0-3.fc33.x86_64 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question occurs to me ... The working guest also has both the > > > spice-vdagent package and the spice channel. Why does it work and the > > > other guest does not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the following is a good start: > > > > > > > > 11.3. SPICE Agent Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 | Red Hat Customer Portal > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >| > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | | > > > > > > > > 11.3. SPICE Agent Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 | Red Hat Customer Portal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Red Hat Customer Portal delivers the knowledge,
Re: [CentOS] udev rules & USB devices - ignored at boot
On 09/02/2021 18:25, Strahil Nikolov wrote:
CentOS 7 doesn't use the old naming convention but ,if you
set a device name and mac address for your connection, the
network stack will rename the device during activation.
Try with:
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add|change", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1e:10:1f:00:00", ATTR{type}=="1",
pop NAME="lteusb"
dnf pulled in quite a few updates in the meanwhile but most
likely "change" does the trick.
I thought it had something to do with USB/kernel/subsystems
parts as the very same rules worked for PCIe devices, those
worked at re/boot.
many! thanks Strahil.
Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 17:04, lejeczek via CentOS
wrote:
On 08/02/2021 08:10, Strahil Nikolov wrote:
> Can you share your udev rules ?
>
> Best Regards,
> Strahil Nikolov
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 15:33, lejeczek via CentOS
> mailto:centos@centos.org>> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have an Ethernet USB adapter for which udev
executes my
> custom rules but!... udev does it only at plug-in
> event and
> not! when the USB stays plugged in during a
reboot, then
> same rules are ignored (or some other problem
results in
> udev failure to do the same when device is
plugged to a
> running system).
> My system is just an average box with a Ryzen on
a B550
> platform.
> Anybody sees this reproduce?
> many thanks, L.
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simple rules:
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="00:1e:10:1f:00:00", ATTR{type}=="1",
KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="lteusb"
like I said - I get iface "lteusb" when I plug the USB
so it
works. If I leave that USB plugged in and reboot then no
"lteusb".
regards, L.
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Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
On 2/11/21 11:18 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones (CentOS and Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). I've moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, desktop clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. For a really long time I was pretty successful in running EL on both the desktop and the server. It HAS been getting way harder to do this. The EPEL, ELrepo, and RPMfusion repositories do a fantastic job overall, but there were way too many things missing from EPEL8 especially where the desktop experience was becoming a pretty sizable drain on my time building the packages I needed from Fedora. KiCAD and Sigrok were the toughest. I greatly prefer running the same OS version on my desktops and servers; makes management a lot easier. So this is part of why I am in the midst of evaluating a wholesale migration to Debian 10. On the server it works well, if somewhat different in setup; on the desktop it works so much better, with a huge and maintained repository, where I haven't had to dip into a PPA but once, and that was for a quick one-off package. It's in the virtualization arena where I am gobsmacked; I'm evaluating Proxmox, which is based on Debian 10, using the no-subscription repositories. Let me tell you, Proxmox has one more slick and highly integrated experience. Relative to running a KVM host with only the stock CentOS 8 cockpit and virt-manager, the Proxmox experience blew me away. I didn't realize just how much time I was spending finding third-party packages for EL8 until I didn't have to. Smooge, you know I feel your pain, but becoming a maintainer in EPEL has a pretty high bar (lots of new tools and methods to work with, amongst other things) -- as it SHOULD, given that it's intended as an addon to EL and needs to be very tightly controlled. It's just more difficult to get started these days relative to when anyone could build an rpm as long as they had a copy of Maximum RPM and knew how to drive 'rpm -ba' back when building as root in a non-reproducible buildroot wasn't a cardinal sin. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 13:39, Simon Matter wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 12:31, Simon Matter > wrote: > > > >> > Le 11/02/2021 à 17:08, Simon Matter a écrit : > >> >> But, I'm a bit shocked to find EPEL 8 in such a bad shape of > >> brokenness > >> >> and incompleteness > >> > > >> > I've come to the same conclusion. > >> > > >> > For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones > >> (CentOS > >> > and > >> > Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). > >> > > >> > I've moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, > >> desktop > >> > clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. > >> > >> In our situation it's not so easy to say server or client. We're running > >> remote desktops over nx-libs, so, a server is also a client at the same > >> time. > >> > >> I always new EPEL is not perfect but it was usable to some degree and > >> that's why Red Hat told their customers about it and how to use it. But > >> the current state of EPEL is sad. > >> > >> > > EPEL is a volunteer driven repository and not many volunteers have been > > available for EL8. Many of the past volunteers have retired or been > > promoted out of positions they actually have time to do the work anymore. > > Asking for replacements is not easy because most people who are > interested > > in EPEL just want the packages built. They have no want or clue to do the > > work themselves and want someone else to do the work for them. This leads > > to a lot of people expecting packages without anyone doing the work. > > I know what you mean but my case is a bit different. For ~ two decades I'm > using Red Hat based distributions and built a large number of packages. > There are even packages in RHEL which they took over from me with my > permission. I'm maintaining quite a number of packages which sometimes > also exist in EPEL but I always keep them up to date and available with > the same version on all Red Hat based distributions of the past, even > after EOL. Many of the packages are available as SRPMs to those > interested. Usually we didn't use any critical package from EPEL because > of the state of support it has. But it was handy to consume some slowly > changing things like XFCE from EPEL. To find out now that even such things > are now in a bad state is a bit sad. > > My apologies, you did not deserve the rant, but the word 'sad' seems to make me see red. I have been told things were 'sad' for EPEL from May of 2019 until now over and over again. Unlike you, most of the people are ones who never volunteered a package but thought it was a 'given' that EPEL would have all their packages for them. After more than a year of it.. it is a tick and I should count to 100 before replying versus 50. In the end, it is a bad state of affairs, but I also think that it is how things are going. There are a LOT of people who seem to expect that this is all for them FREE and that they can make as many demands as they want. That tires out volunteers and eventually you end up with what happened to all the previous 3rd party repositories.. the volunteers stop showing up to help out. So without a reason for people to volunteer or someone paying the 4+ people needed to do the work day in and day out, the repositories end up in a bad state. -- Stephen J Smoogen. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 05:18:19PM +0100, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 11/02/2021 à 17:08, Simon Matter a écrit : > > But, I'm a bit shocked to find EPEL 8 in such a bad shape of brokenness > > and incompleteness > > I've come to the same conclusion. > > For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones (CentOS and > Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). > > I've moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, desktop > clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. Its mostly fine if you use GNOME on RHEL/CentOS. They're packaged by Red Hat, they accept bug reports about issues and stuff like missing dependencies are worked out pretty quickly. In my experience, Red Hat doesn't do a ton of Desktop testing, they lean on Fedora ironing out all the bugs and lifting the fixes from there. Almost all of my bugs filed against desktop-related issues are either dropped as WONTFIX or are fixed when RHEL bumps their GNOME version to a newer release. For example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1365967 It's too bad that RH doesn't really have much focus on Desktop/Workstation systems, because an enteprise workstation is actually a useful thing for people who need long term support (1-2 years at least) of a workstation. Ubuntu manages to do it, but unfortunately, most of our engineering software isn't supported on Ubuntu. -- Jonathan Billings ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 12:31, Simon Matter wrote: > >> > Le 11/02/2021 à 17:08, Simon Matter a écrit : >> >> But, I'm a bit shocked to find EPEL 8 in such a bad shape of >> brokenness >> >> and incompleteness >> > >> > I've come to the same conclusion. >> > >> > For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones >> (CentOS >> > and >> > Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). >> > >> > I've moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, >> desktop >> > clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. >> >> In our situation it's not so easy to say server or client. We're running >> remote desktops over nx-libs, so, a server is also a client at the same >> time. >> >> I always new EPEL is not perfect but it was usable to some degree and >> that's why Red Hat told their customers about it and how to use it. But >> the current state of EPEL is sad. >> >> > EPEL is a volunteer driven repository and not many volunteers have been > available for EL8. Many of the past volunteers have retired or been > promoted out of positions they actually have time to do the work anymore. > Asking for replacements is not easy because most people who are interested > in EPEL just want the packages built. They have no want or clue to do the > work themselves and want someone else to do the work for them. This leads > to a lot of people expecting packages without anyone doing the work. I know what you mean but my case is a bit different. For ~ two decades I'm using Red Hat based distributions and built a large number of packages. There are even packages in RHEL which they took over from me with my permission. I'm maintaining quite a number of packages which sometimes also exist in EPEL but I always keep them up to date and available with the same version on all Red Hat based distributions of the past, even after EOL. Many of the packages are available as SRPMs to those interested. Usually we didn't use any critical package from EPEL because of the state of support it has. But it was handy to consume some slowly changing things like XFCE from EPEL. To find out now that even such things are now in a bad state is a bit sad. Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 12:31, Simon Matter wrote: > > Le 11/02/2021 à 17:08, Simon Matter a écrit : > >> But, I'm a bit shocked to find EPEL 8 in such a bad shape of brokenness > >> and incompleteness > > > > I've come to the same conclusion. > > > > For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones > (CentOS > > and > > Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). > > > > I've moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, desktop > > clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. > > In our situation it's not so easy to say server or client. We're running > remote desktops over nx-libs, so, a server is also a client at the same > time. > > I always new EPEL is not perfect but it was usable to some degree and > that's why Red Hat told their customers about it and how to use it. But > the current state of EPEL is sad. > > EPEL is a volunteer driven repository and not many volunteers have been available for EL8. Many of the past volunteers have retired or been promoted out of positions they actually have time to do the work anymore. Asking for replacements is not easy because most people who are interested in EPEL just want the packages built. They have no want or clue to do the work themselves and want someone else to do the work for them. This leads to a lot of people expecting packages without anyone doing the work. That rant aside, if people are interested in helping out, there is a weekly EPEL IRC SIG meeting (irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting 22:00 UTC Friday). THere is the #epel mailing list and there are several people who are trying to get volunteers to work on packages and such. -- Stephen J Smoogen. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
On 11/02/21 11:54 pm, Simon Matter wrote: # dnf group install "Xfce" Last metadata expiration check: 0:05:02 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 11:45:57 CET. No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" Dependencies resolved. PackageArch VersionRepository Size Installing group/module packages: ... Installing Groups: Xfce Transaction Summary Install 21 Packages Total size: 10 M Installed size: 48 M Is this ok [y/N]: Indeed I actually get the same output. Those are soft dependencies, you should be able to answer "Y" here and go ahead and install XFCE. Feel free to file a bug with EPEL about the missing deps. Peter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
> Le 11/02/2021 à 17:08, Simon Matter a écrit : >> But, I'm a bit shocked to find EPEL 8 in such a bad shape of brokenness >> and incompleteness > > I've come to the same conclusion. > > For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones (CentOS > and > Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). > > I've moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, desktop > clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. In our situation it's not so easy to say server or client. We're running remote desktops over nx-libs, so, a server is also a client at the same time. I always new EPEL is not perfect but it was usable to some degree and that's why Red Hat told their customers about it and how to use it. But the current state of EPEL is sad. Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
Le 11/02/2021 à 17:08, Simon Matter a écrit : > But, I'm a bit shocked to find EPEL 8 in such a bad shape of brokenness > and incompleteness I've come to the same conclusion. For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones (CentOS and Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). I've moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, desktop clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : i...@microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:53:47 +0100 > Simon Matter wrote: > >> Are my mirrors broken or incomplete? > > I just tried dnf search kmail and it didn't find anything, so I guess that > stuff is simply not there. > > I personally use the Mate desktop from > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/ on all of my > computers and it works fine, if Mate is lightweight enough for your > purposes. Thanks, I'll have a look. Maybe I'll also find XFCE or LXQt in copr? But, I'm a bit shocked to find EPEL 8 in such a bad shape of brokenness and incompleteness :( Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:53:47 +0100 Simon Matter wrote: > Are my mirrors broken or incomplete? I just tried dnf search kmail and it didn't find anything, so I guess that stuff is simply not there. I personally use the Mate desktop from https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/ on all of my computers and it works fine, if Mate is lightweight enough for your purposes. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
> On 11/02/21 10:24 pm, Simon Matter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is anyone here running XFCE desktop on CentOS 8? If so, how did you >> install it? >> >> I just tried to install it from EPEL and this is what I got: >> >> # dnf group install Xfce >> Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:01 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 10:05:47 >> CET. >> No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" >> No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" > > I run the command and it resolves the dependencies just fine, but does > not want to install any of the above two packages. > >> I'm unable to find packages for NetworkManager-gnome or >> thunar-archive-plugin anywhere in CentOS 8 or EPEL 8. > > Can you please show the full output of your command, please? Also the > output of: > > dnf repolist -v epel I also tried KDE and get this: # dnf group install "KDE Plasma Workspaces" Last metadata expiration check: 2:43:17 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 14:06:32 CET. no group '3d-printing' from environment 'kde-desktop-environment' no group 'cloud-management' from environment 'kde-desktop-environment' no group 'firefox' from environment 'kde-desktop-environment' no group 'kde-telepathy' from environment 'kde-desktop-environment' No match for group package "dnfdragora" No match for group package "kmail" No match for group package "korganizer" No match for group package "kget" No match for group package "kaddressbook" No match for group package "plasma-discover" No match for group package "akregator" No match for group package "kontact" No match for group package "qt-at-spi" No match for group package "pinentry-qt" No match for group package "NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora" Error: Problem 1: conflicting requests - nothing provides xmessage needed by plasma-workspace-5.18.4.1-2.el8.x86_64 Problem 2: package sddm-breeze-5.18.4.1-2.el8.noarch requires plasma-workspace = 5.18.4.1-2.el8, but none of the providers can be installed - conflicting requests - nothing provides xmessage needed by plasma-workspace-5.18.4.1-2.el8.x86_64 Problem 3: package plasma-desktop-5.18.4.1-2.el8.1.x86_64 requires plasma-workspace >= 5.18, but none of the providers can be installed - conflicting requests - nothing provides xmessage needed by plasma-workspace-5.18.4.1-2.el8.x86_64 Problem 4: package kde-print-manager-19.12.3-2.el8.x86_64 requires plasma-workspace, but none of the providers can be installed - conflicting requests - nothing provides xmessage needed by plasma-workspace-5.18.4.1-2.el8.x86_64 (try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages or '--nobest' to use not only best candidate packages) Are my mirrors broken or incomplete? I just can't find out what happens. Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
I'm also on C7 for the same reason but wanted to see how XFCE is supported on any EL8 clone for the future. In the past I've even produced updated XFCE packages but I don't want to do this in future. Too many other things to do. Simon > Sorry, I run gdm on Springdale 8 and Alma 8. I'm not doing much work on > any RHEL 8 clone ATM, I prefer the longer support of C7! :-( > Martin > > On 11/02/2021 10:26, Simon Matter wrote: >> Thanks Martin, so the "Xfce" group definition in EPEL is obviously >> broken. >> >> Looks like XFCE doesn't get much love in EL8. Do you or anyone else have >> suggestions for a lightweight desktop environment to use on EL8 apart >> from >> XFCE? One which is supported well by EPEL? >> >> Thanks, >> Simon >> >>> Hi Simon, >>> >>> I'm running XFCE under CentOS 8 as a VM under CentOS 7. I've just had >>> a >>> quick look and this is what I see (see attachment). You'll need to >>> view >>> it in a wide terminal. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Martin >>> >>> On 11/02/2021 09:24, Simon Matter wrote: Hi, Is anyone here running XFCE desktop on CentOS 8? If so, how did you install it? I just tried to install it from EPEL and this is what I got: # dnf group install Xfce Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:01 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 10:05:47 CET. No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" I'm unable to find packages for NetworkManager-gnome or thunar-archive-plugin anywhere in CentOS 8 or EPEL 8. Did I miss something? Thanks, Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>> >>> -- >>> J Martin Rushton MBCS >>> ___ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS@centos.org >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>> >> >> > > -- > J Martin Rushton MBCS > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
Hi, > On 11/02/21 10:24 pm, Simon Matter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is anyone here running XFCE desktop on CentOS 8? If so, how did you >> install it? >> >> I just tried to install it from EPEL and this is what I got: >> >> # dnf group install Xfce >> Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:01 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 10:05:47 >> CET. >> No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" >> No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" > > I run the command and it resolves the dependencies just fine, but does > not want to install any of the above two packages. > >> I'm unable to find packages for NetworkManager-gnome or >> thunar-archive-plugin anywhere in CentOS 8 or EPEL 8. > > Can you please show the full output of your command, please? Also the > output of: # dnf group install "Xfce" Last metadata expiration check: 0:05:02 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 11:45:57 CET. No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" Dependencies resolved. PackageArch VersionRepository Size Installing group/module packages: Thunar x86_641.8.15-1.el8 epel 1.6 M mousepad x86_640.4.2-1.el8epel 326 k thunar-volman x86_640.9.5-1.el8epel 290 k tumblerx86_640.2.7-1.el8epel 237 k xfce-polkitx86_640.3-3.el8 epel 25 k xfce4-appfinderx86_644.14.0-1.el8 epel 246 k xfce4-panelx86_644.14.4-1.el8 epel 1.0 M xfce4-power-managerx86_641.6.6-1.el8epel 810 k xfce4-pulseaudio-pluginx86_640.4.3-1.el8epel 123 k xfce4-screensaver x86_640.1.10-1.el8 epel 290 k xfce4-session x86_644.14.2-1.el8 epel 518 k xfce4-settings x86_644.14.3-1.el8 epel 877 k xfce4-terminal x86_640.8.10-1.el8 epel 670 k xfconf x86_644.14.3-1.el8 epel 261 k xfdesktop x86_644.14.1-3.el8 epel 1.2 M xfwm4 x86_644.14.2-1.el8 epel 581 k Installing dependencies: exox86_640.12.10-1.el8 epel 701 k garcon x86_640.6.4-3.el8epel 214 k libxfce4ui x86_644.14.1-3.el8 epel 274 k libxfce4util x86_644.14.0-1.el8 epel 180 k pavucontrolx86_643.0-11.el8 ol8_appstream 160 k Installing Groups: Xfce Transaction Summary Install 21 Packages Total size: 10 M Installed size: 48 M Is this ok [y/N]: > > dnf repolist -v epel # dnf repolist -v epel Loaded plugins: builddep, changelog, config-manager, copr, debug, debuginfo-install, download, generate_completion_cache, needs-restarting, playground, repoclosure, repodiff, repograph, repomanage, reposync DNF version: 4.2.23 cachedir: /var/cache/dnf Last metadata expiration check: 0:07:26 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 11:45:57 CET. Repo-id: epel Repo-name : Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 8 - x86_64 Repo-status: enabled Repo-revision : 1613003176 Repo-updated : Thu 11 Feb 2021 01:26:47 CET Repo-pkgs : 6,999 Repo-available-pkgs: 6,994 Repo-size : 9.9 G Repo-baseurl : file:///mnt/nfs/Linux/Mirrors/epel/8/Everything/x86_64/ Repo-expire: 172,800 second(s) (last: Thu 11 Feb 2021 11:45:57 CET) Repo-filename : /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo Total packages: 6,999 As you can see I'm serving repos from my local mirrors. Are they not complete somehow? Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
Sorry, I run gdm on Springdale 8 and Alma 8. I'm not doing much work on any RHEL 8 clone ATM, I prefer the longer support of C7! :-( Martin On 11/02/2021 10:26, Simon Matter wrote: Thanks Martin, so the "Xfce" group definition in EPEL is obviously broken. Looks like XFCE doesn't get much love in EL8. Do you or anyone else have suggestions for a lightweight desktop environment to use on EL8 apart from XFCE? One which is supported well by EPEL? Thanks, Simon Hi Simon, I'm running XFCE under CentOS 8 as a VM under CentOS 7. I've just had a quick look and this is what I see (see attachment). You'll need to view it in a wide terminal. HTH, Martin On 11/02/2021 09:24, Simon Matter wrote: Hi, Is anyone here running XFCE desktop on CentOS 8? If so, how did you install it? I just tried to install it from EPEL and this is what I got: # dnf group install Xfce Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:01 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 10:05:47 CET. No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" I'm unable to find packages for NetworkManager-gnome or thunar-archive-plugin anywhere in CentOS 8 or EPEL 8. Did I miss something? Thanks, Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- J Martin Rushton MBCS ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- J Martin Rushton MBCS ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
On 11/02/21 10:24 pm, Simon Matter wrote: Hi, Is anyone here running XFCE desktop on CentOS 8? If so, how did you install it? I just tried to install it from EPEL and this is what I got: # dnf group install Xfce Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:01 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 10:05:47 CET. No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" I run the command and it resolves the dependencies just fine, but does not want to install any of the above two packages. I'm unable to find packages for NetworkManager-gnome or thunar-archive-plugin anywhere in CentOS 8 or EPEL 8. Can you please show the full output of your command, please? Also the output of: dnf repolist -v epel Peter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
Thanks Martin, so the "Xfce" group definition in EPEL is obviously broken. Looks like XFCE doesn't get much love in EL8. Do you or anyone else have suggestions for a lightweight desktop environment to use on EL8 apart from XFCE? One which is supported well by EPEL? Thanks, Simon > Hi Simon, > > I'm running XFCE under CentOS 8 as a VM under CentOS 7. I've just had a > quick look and this is what I see (see attachment). You'll need to view > it in a wide terminal. > > HTH, > Martin > > On 11/02/2021 09:24, Simon Matter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is anyone here running XFCE desktop on CentOS 8? If so, how did you >> install it? >> >> I just tried to install it from EPEL and this is what I got: >> >> # dnf group install Xfce >> Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:01 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 10:05:47 >> CET. >> No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" >> No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" >> >> I'm unable to find packages for NetworkManager-gnome or >> thunar-archive-plugin anywhere in CentOS 8 or EPEL 8. >> >> Did I miss something? >> >> Thanks, >> Simon >> >> ___ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS@centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > -- > J Martin Rushton MBCS > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
Hi Simon, I'm running XFCE under CentOS 8 as a VM under CentOS 7. I've just had a quick look and this is what I see (see attachment). You'll need to view it in a wide terminal. HTH, Martin On 11/02/2021 09:24, Simon Matter wrote: Hi, Is anyone here running XFCE desktop on CentOS 8? If so, how did you install it? I just tried to install it from EPEL and this is what I got: # dnf group install Xfce Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:01 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 10:05:47 CET. No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" I'm unable to find packages for NetworkManager-gnome or thunar-archive-plugin anywhere in CentOS 8 or EPEL 8. Did I miss something? Thanks, Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- J Martin Rushton MBCS $ dnf --color=never list xfce\* Last metadata expiration check: 0:01:19 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 09:59:20 GMT. Installed Packages xfce-polkit.x86_64 0.3-3.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-about.x86_64 4.14.1-3.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-appfinder.x86_64 4.14.0-1.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-panel.x86_64 4.14.4-1.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-places-plugin.x86_64 1.8.1-1.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin.x86_64 0.4.3-1.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-session.x86_64 4.14.2-1.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-settings.x86_644.14.3-1.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-systemload-plugin.x86_64 1.2.3-2.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-taskmanager.x86_64 1.2.3-1.epel8.playground @epel-playground xfce4-terminal.x86_640.8.10-1.el8@epel Available Package: xfce4-battery-plugin.x86_64 1.1.3-1.el8 epel xfce4-datetime-plugin.x86_64 0.8.0-1.el8 epel xfce4-netload-plugin.x86_64 1.3.2-1.el8 epel xfce4-notifyd.x86_64 0.6.1-1.el8 epel xfce4-panel-devel.x86_64 4.14.4-1.el8epel xfce4-power-manager.x86_64 1.6.6-1.el8 epel xfce4-screensaver.x86_64 0.1.10-1.el8epel xfce4-screenshooter.x86_64 1.9.7-1.el8 epel xfce4-screenshooter-plugin.x86_641.9.7-1.el8 epel xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin.x86_640.5.1-1.el8 epel xfce4-time-out-plugin.x86_64 1.1.0-1.el8 epel xfce4-weather-plugin.x86_64 0.10.2-1.el8epel xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.x86_64 2.4.4-1.el8 epel $ dnf --color=never list NetworkManager-gnome Last metadata expiration check: 0:05:53 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 09:59:20 GMT. Error: No matching Packages to list $ dnf --color=never list thunar-archive-plugin Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:16 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 09:59:20 GMT. Error: No matching Packages to list ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?
Hi, Is anyone here running XFCE desktop on CentOS 8? If so, how did you install it? I just tried to install it from EPEL and this is what I got: # dnf group install Xfce Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:01 ago on Thu 11 Feb 2021 10:05:47 CET. No match for group package "NetworkManager-gnome" No match for group package "thunar-archive-plugin" I'm unable to find packages for NetworkManager-gnome or thunar-archive-plugin anywhere in CentOS 8 or EPEL 8. Did I miss something? Thanks, Simon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
