Re: [CentOS] Openbravo on CentOS

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Taylor
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Joseph L. Casale 
jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:

 Anyone here supporting Openbravo in CentOS, opinions or comments
 wrt how it runs or nuances from the os side would be appreciated!

 Thanks,
 jlc
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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0112 Critical CentOS 5 i386 firefox Update

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Taylor
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Karanbir Singh kbsi...@centos.org wrote:


 CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2010:0112 Critical

 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0112.html

 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
 syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename )

 i386:
 af85d2bab4fd84678522fa921ad7c65d  firefox-3.0.18-1.el5.centos.i386.rpm
 17a22cb02ee8ac264f6f5f169266443f  xulrunner-1.9.0.18-1.el5_4.i386.rpm
 5fc996913fdba522974579cd9ee499a0  xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.18-1.el5_4.i386.rpm
 35c5944fa6938f15ea52081b31171c6b
  xulrunner-devel-unstable-1.9.0.18-1.el5_4.i386.rpm

 Source:
 3cbf15ad8683b5788a970e834419a99b  firefox-3.0.18-1.el5.centos.src.rpm
 626aa5b68835c685a3e899732d5a7970  xulrunner-1.9.0.18-1.el5_4.src.rpm


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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0394 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 kernel security, bug fix, and enhancement update

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Taylor
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On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Tru Huynh t...@centos.org wrote:

 entOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0394

 kernel security, bug fix, and enhancement update security update for CentOS
 4 x86_64:
 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0394.html

 The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
 the mirrors:

 x86_64:
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-devel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-doc-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.noarch.rpm
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-largesmp-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-largesmp-devel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-smp-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-smp-devel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-xenU-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm
 updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-xenU-devel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.x86_64.rpm

 source:
 updates/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.25.EL.src.rpm

 You may update your CentOS-4 x86_64 installations by running the command:

yum update kernel\*

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Re: [CentOS] Consecutive Jobs

2010-04-07 Thread Bob Taylor
please take this email address off your mail list. Bob has died so he
will no longer use this sitethank you
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Torrent software choice

2010-02-22 Thread Bob Taylor
Hi, I am writting this message in hope that you can be of a great help to
me. My husband that has been on this site  died suddenly Feb 4th) and I can
not access my computer. He has  a user name and password on the system. He
has used the Linux  and Red Hat to run the computer   He would boot up
the system and then I would do my email, documents, etc.  I never thought to
ask him his password or username.  There is no one in our area that knows
how to change the username and password on the Linux system... Can you or
some one you may know help. I did find a Red Hat Boot disk... not sure what
to do with it

I am able to use this email so that is why I am sending this to you ,trying
to find help. I can be reached through a friend if you can call me 970 208
3131.  or email... will be OK also  I hope there is someone
to help me get on my computer...  Laura
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Beer event London

2009-09-28 Thread Bob Taylor

On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 08:24 +0100, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
 From Karan's blog:
 
 A few of us are going to be getting together for drinks on the Tuesday
 29th Oct 2009, everyone is welcome to come along. I'll get there for
 about 18:15hrs and plan on being around till about 20:00 - Depending
 on how many people are around and what the feeling is - we might nip
 around to Ragam ( mostly authentic South Indian food ), a few doors
 down.

[snip]

Quick! Send U.S. dollars for 1 round trip ticket from Yuma, AZ U.S. and
I will be there! :-}
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Bob Taylor

On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:48 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:54 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
  Bob Taylor wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
  Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this
  loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it
  disgusts me.
  It is not *wrong* ... any more than your response is *wrong*.
 
  Your opinion is for you and my opinion is for me.
 
  And the GREAT thing about open source is, there is always another
  project if you don't like the current one.
  
  Let me add: As a *developer* you are saying the wrong things.
  
  My point is, the CentOS team has put in an unbelievable amount of time
  and effort to build this distribution.  We will continue to do so.  If
  you like it use it. If you don't like it, don't use it.
  
  And my point is: Just *who* are you doing this unbelievable amount of
  time and effort.. *for*?
 
 Not for you, for people who appreciate it.  I have never been paid a
 dime for any work to the CentOS project.

Have I said I don't appreciate it? It so happens I do. More than I can
say. Have I indicated you have been paid?

  If someone has a major problem with the distro, then they should find
  one that they don't have a major problem with.  I don't want hard
  feelings or anyone to be upset, but if we are not meeting your
  expectations then you might be able to find another that does.  I do not
  think you will ... but trying is certainly better than being upset.
  
  It's your *attitude*, Johnny. I'm attempting to help you with your
  people skills. OK? It is not helpful nor desirable to talk to people in
  such an apparently arrogant manner. If you did so with clients, you most
  certainly wouldn't have any in short order and possibly be looking for
  another job.
  
  Enough said.
  
 Let me see.
 
 First, I give you a free product that people pay thousands of dollars
 for.  I do so voluntarily.
 
 Second, I am supposed to also kiss your ass?

Is it necessary to insult me? I have said *nothing* to you to warrant
this.

 What kind of attitude should I have when you come into my organization,
 take a free product, tell me that everyone working on the project sucks,
  tell me that they need to work harder and get you the free product
 faster, tell me that you need to have a say in how the organization works?

I said *nothing* of the sort. BTW, my organization???

Sheesh!

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Bob Taylor

On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 10:40 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 Ned Slider wrote:
  Marcus Moeller wrote:
  Dear Russ,

[huge snip]

 Look ... if you understand how build work, and I know you do, then you
 understand that one can not release updates that are built on 4.8
 without releasing 4.8.
 
 If you need the updates faster, feel free to pay Redhat for them.
 
  There - I feel so much better getting that lot off my chest :)
 
 There are always other distros if you don't like this one ...

Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this
loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-07 Thread Bob Taylor

On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:54 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
  Bob Taylor wrote:

[snip]

  Exactly the *wrong* response. I wonder if responses similar to this
  loses potential users or loses existing customers. Personally, it
  disgusts me.
 
 It is not *wrong* ... any more than your response is *wrong*.
 
 Your opinion is for you and my opinion is for me.
 
 And the GREAT thing about open source is, there is always another
 project if you don't like the current one.

Let me add: As a *developer* you are saying the wrong things.

 My point is, the CentOS team has put in an unbelievable amount of time
 and effort to build this distribution.  We will continue to do so.  If
 you like it use it. If you don't like it, don't use it.

And my point is: Just *who* are you doing this unbelievable amount of
time and effort.. *for*?

 If someone has a major problem with the distro, then they should find
 one that they don't have a major problem with.  I don't want hard
 feelings or anyone to be upset, but if we are not meeting your
 expectations then you might be able to find another that does.  I do not
 think you will ... but trying is certainly better than being upset.

It's your *attitude*, Johnny. I'm attempting to help you with your
people skills. OK? It is not helpful nor desirable to talk to people in
such an apparently arrogant manner. If you did so with clients, you most
certainly wouldn't have any in short order and possibly be looking for
another job.

Enough said.

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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-08-01 Thread Bob Taylor

On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 21:50 +0800, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
 Karanbir Singh wrote:

[snip]

  People looking for info about this and recent progress will find 
  relevant info being updated on http://www.centos.org/ as things develop.

[snip]

Can we drop this thread now? Please?
Bob
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Re: [CentOS] python-dbus

2009-04-13 Thread Bob Taylor

On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 17:55 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
 During startup there is a message about a missing python-dbus.  Querying rpm 
 and yum tells me that nothing provides python-dbus and no such package 
 exists.  What do I need?

Hi Ann!

ann:/etc# yum search dbus-python
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * epel: linux.nssl.noaa.gov
 * rpmforge: apt.sw.be
 * base: mirror.anl.gov
 * updates: mirror.newnanutilities.org
 * extras: mirror.atlanticmetro.net
 * centosplus: mirror.its.uidaho.edu
 * addons: holmes.umflint.edu
epel | 2.1 kB
00:00 
rpmforge | 1.1 kB
00:00 
adobe-linux-i386 |  951 B
00:00 
base | 1.1 kB
00:00 
updates  |  951 B
00:00 
extras   | 1.1 kB
00:00 
centosplus   |  951 B
00:00 
addons   |  951 B
00:00 
= Matched: dbus-python
=
dbus-python.i386 : D-Bus Python Bindings
ann:/etc# rpm -q dbus-python
dbus-python-0.70-7.el5

Name switch! Confused me also!
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Re: [CentOS] python-dbus

2009-04-13 Thread Bob Taylor

On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 18:47 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 13 April 2009 18:29:55 Bob Taylor wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 17:55 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
   During startup there is a message about a missing python-dbus.  Querying
   rpm and yum tells me that nothing provides python-dbus and no such
   package exists.  What do I need?
 
  Hi Ann!
 
  ann:/etc# yum search dbus-python

[snip]

  = Matched: dbus-python
  =
  dbus-python.i386 : D-Bus Python Bindings
  ann:/etc# rpm -q dbus-python
  dbus-python-0.70-7.el5
 
  Name switch! Confused me also!
 
 Now how the blue blazes are we supposed to guess that?  Oops -
 
 Package dbus-python-0.70-7.el5.i386 already installed and latest version
 Nothing to do

Back to the drawing board, I guess. This business of getting a message
that something is not installed when it *is* should *not* happen. I
consider this a nasty bug as the error is *meaningless*. The only thing
that comes to mind at the moment is something is looking
in /usr/lib/python and not /usr/lib/python2.4.

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Re: [CentOS] APCUPSD port 3551 permission problem

2009-03-29 Thread Bob Taylor

On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 14:36 -0600, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 I need a little help on this problem, please? I include
 my /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf file is attached.
 
 Ok
 
 port 3551 udp/tcp has
 been added to the (running) firewall.
 
 Are you attempting to run the agent on a machine *without*
 the ups comm connected to it, such that it will receive status
 from the server that does have it connected and shutdown when
 that remote agent that *is* monitoring the ups suggests it should?
 
 I don't think so, I think your ups is connected to the server
 that is running the agent. You need not add this port to the
 firewall. It talks to itself over the loopback adapter.

You're quite correct sir. My misunderstanding on how a firewall and the
computer software may interconnect.

 My APC is recognized as:
 APC Back-UPS 450 FW:844.Kld.D USB FW:Kld
 This from the hardware browser.
 
 PS says:
 root  2419  0.0  0.0   4196   584 ?Ss   Mar23
 0:09 /sbin/apcupsd -f /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf
 
 Is group 2419 the problem? What should I name it? apcupsd?
 
 Group? Below your gui correctly identifies that data field as
 the pid:)

My sincere apologies. I know better. I must have been too tired.

 The status field of the Service Configuration GUI says:
 apcupsd (pid 2419) is running...
 Error contacting host localhost port 3551: Connection refused
 
 You have suggested the NETSERVER directive be off, but you want
 a client side app to communicate with it:) Turn that on and
 restart it.

OK. Did that. Now listening on 127.0.0.1:3551 tcp instead of Unix DGRAM.

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[CentOS] APCUPSD port 3551 permission problem

2009-03-28 Thread Bob Taylor
I need a little help on this problem, please? I include
my /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf file is attached. port 3551 udp/tcp has
been added to the (running) firewall. My APC is recognized as:
APC Back-UPS 450 FW:844.Kld.D USB FW:Kld
This from the hardware browser.

PS says:
root  2419  0.0  0.0   4196   584 ?Ss   Mar23
0:09 /sbin/apcupsd -f /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf

Is group 2419 the problem? What should I name it? apcupsd?

The status field of the Service Configuration GUI says:
apcupsd (pid 2419) is running...
Error contacting host localhost port 3551: Connection refused

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## apcupsd.conf v1.1 ##
# 
#  for apcupsd release 3.14.3 (20 January 2008) - redhat
#
# apcupsd POSIX config file

#
# = General configuration parameters 
#

# UPSNAME xxx
#   Use this to give your UPS a name in log files and such. This
#   is particulary useful if you have multiple UPSes. This does not
#   set the EEPROM. It should be 8 characters or less.
#UPSNAME

# UPSCABLE cable
#   Defines the type of cable connecting the UPS to your computer.
#
#   Possible generic choices for cable are:
# simple, smart, ether, usb
#
#   Or a specific cable model number may be used:
# 940-0119A, 940-0127A, 940-0128A, 940-0020B,
# 940-0020C, 940-0023A, 940-0024B, 940-0024C,
# 940-1524C, 940-0024G, 940-0095A, 940-0095B,
# 940-0095C, M-04-02-2000
#
#UPSCABLE smart
UPSCABLE usb

# To get apcupsd to work, in addition to defining the cable
# above, you must also define a UPSTYPE, which corresponds to
# the type of UPS you have (see the Description for more details).
# You must also specify a DEVICE, sometimes referred to as a port.
# For USB UPSes, please leave the DEVICE directive blank. For
# other UPS types, you must specify an appropriate port or address.
#
# UPSTYPE   DEVICE   Description
# apcsmart  /dev/tty**   Newer serial character device,
#appropriate for SmartUPS models using
#a serial cable (not USB).
#
# usb   BLANK  Most new UPSes are USB. A blank DEVICE
#setting enables autodetection, which is
#the best choice for most installations.
#
# net   hostname:portNetwork link to a master apcupsd
#through apcupsd's Network Information
#Server. This is used if you don't have
#a UPS directly connected to your computer.
#
# snmp  hostname:port:vendor:community
#SNMP Network link to an SNMP-enabled
#UPS device. Vendor is the MIB used by
#the UPS device: can be APC, APC_NOTRAP
#or RFC where APC is the powernet MIB,
#APC_NOTRAP is powernet with SNMP trap
#catching disabled, and RFC is the IETF's 
#rfc1628 UPS-MIB. You usually want APC.
#Port is usually 161. Community is usually
#private.
#
# dumb  /dev/tty**   Old serial character device for use 
#with simple-signaling UPSes.
#
# pcnetipaddr:username:passphrase
#PowerChute Network Shutdown protocol
#which can be used as an alternative to SNMP
#with AP9617 family of smart slot cards.
#ipaddr is the IP address of the UPS mgmt
#card. username and passphrase are the
#credentials for which the card has been
#configured.
#
#UPSTYPE apcsmart
#DEVICE /dev/ttyS0
UPSTYPE usb
DEVICE 

# LOCKFILE path to lockfile
#   Path for device lock file. Not used on Win32.
LOCKFILE /var/lock

# SCRIPTDIR path to script directory
#   Directory in which apccontrol and event scripts are located.
SCRIPTDIR /etc/apcupsd

# PWRFAILDIR path to powerfail directory
#   Directory in which to write the powerfail flag file. This file
#   is created when apcupsd initiates a system shutdown and is
#   checked in the OS halt scripts to determine if a killpower
#   (turning off UPS output power) is required.
PWRFAILDIR /etc/apcupsd

# NOLOGINDIR path to nologin directory
#   Directory in which to write the nologin file. The existence
#   of this flag file tells the OS to disallow new logins.
NOLOGINDIR /etc


#
#  Configuration parameters used during power failures ==
#

# The ONBATTERYDELAY is the time in seconds from when a power failure
#   is detected until we react to it with an onbattery event.
#
#   This means that, apccontrol will be called with the powerout argument
#   immediately when a power failure is detected.  However, the
#   onbattery argument is passed to apccontrol only after the 
#   ONBATTERYDELAY time.  If you don't want

Re: [CentOS] fetchmail SSL protoco; issue

2009-03-21 Thread Bob Taylor

On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 17:03 +0100, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
 I am using fetchmail to collect mail from some secondary mail accounts,
 among which is hotmail.
 So far I have used hotwayd to fetch the mail from hotmail using
 httpmail. Hotmail now supports pop3 access, so I decided to change
 fetchnail to fetch the mail directly over pop3.
 
 This works, but whatever I try, I get an error message when I run
 fetchmail:
 
 Invalid SSL protocol 'SSLv23' specified, using default (SSLv23).
 Invalid SSL protocol '' specified, using default (SSLv23).
 
 The relevant part of my .fetchmailrc is included below (userids and
 password changed for privacy reasons :-)
 
 poll pop3.live.com port 995 proto pop3
 user xx...@hotmail.com password yy no keep ssl sslproto ssl23
 fetchall to myuserid

Try removing the space between no and keep otherwise I don't know.
My gmail works with just the ssl.

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox error msg.

2009-01-21 Thread Bob Taylor

On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 11:13 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  After installing my backup of /home and seeing firefox not restart, I
  started it from the command line with the immediate error:
  
  Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.5 and 1.9.0.5.
  
  I'm sorry, I'm at a complete loss. What's a GRE?
 
 It's probably misspelt and something on your disk was eaten by a GRUE. 
 
 Try sudo xulrunner --register-global, because somehow firefox believes
 that it cannot find a working xulrunner instance on your machine.
 
 Do that *after* you checked that firefox and xulrunner are updated to
 the latest versions:

Your first request.
# rpm -q firefox xulrunner
firefox-3.0.5-1.el5.centos
xulrunner-1.9.0.5-1.el5

Your second request.
# xulrunner --register-global
# 
This returns nothing.

 [angen...@shutdown ~]$rpm -q firefox xulrunner
 firefox-3.0.5-1.el5.centos.x86_64
 xulrunner-1.9.0.5-1.el5.x86_64
 [angen...@shutdown ~]$
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ralph
 
 PS:  A GRE really isn't as fearsome as a GRUE is, a GRE is just the Gecko
  Runtime Environment.
 PPS: Depending on how you have been socialized:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)

I thank you! Will peruse the above URL when I have a working Firefox.
This was working before hard drive change.
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Re: [CentOS] [Solved] Firefox error msg.

2009-01-21 Thread Bob Taylor

On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 22:31 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
   Try sudo xulrunner --register-global, because somehow firefox believes
   that it cannot find a working xulrunner instance on your machine.
 
  Your second request.
  # xulrunner --register-global
  # 
  This returns nothing.
 
 Yes, but does it work again after doing that? If not - try moving your 
 .mozilla directory somewhere safe and try again. Firefox will build a new 
 .mozilla directory then.

It occurred to me to rpm -e firefox and rpm -e --nodeps xulrunner. After
yum install firefox xlrunner completed, I successfully brought up
firefox.
Don't know what the problem was, but I'm happy now. Moving .mozilla had
occurred to me if reinstalling both firefox and xlrunner didn't work.
This is something I don't really want to do as I don't know where
firefox keeps my login/passwords.

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[CentOS] Firefox error msg.

2009-01-20 Thread Bob Taylor
After my / disk seemed to be failing and found many files disappeared, I
decided to remove it. I moved my other disk to it's place. Long story
omitted.

After installing my backup of /home and seeing firefox not restart, I
started it from the command line with the immediate error:

Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.5 and 1.9.0.5.

I'm sorry, I'm at a complete loss. What's a GRE?
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[CentOS] OT? Lost Sourceforge URL

2009-01-13 Thread Bob Taylor
Good morning/afternoon,

I seem to have lost the repodata for sourceforge. I do not remember
where I got the repodata from. Could someone give me a URL please?

Thanks a bunch!
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Re: [CentOS] OT? Lost Sourceforge URL

2009-01-13 Thread Bob Taylor

On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 15:05 -0800, Scott Silva wrote:
 on 1-13-2009 11:51 AM Bob Taylor spake the following:
  Good morning/afternoon,
  
  I seem to have lost the repodata for sourceforge. I do not remember
  where I got the repodata from. Could someone give me a URL please?

I gotta just *think* more before I write. Sheesh!

What I meant to say was I seem to have lost a valid URL for rpmforge. I
checked and I have the same release installed. Sooo the question is what
happened? This has been going several weeks now.

 https://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge

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Re: [CentOS] 2 internet connections and one for backup

2008-12-26 Thread Bob Taylor

On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 18:46 -0500, Mark A. Lewis wrote:
 Top-posting this just to get your panties in an even bigger knot.
 
 Come on dude, go have a beer or something and stop being a prick.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf 
 Of Vandaman
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:02 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] 2 internet connections and one for backup
 
 Mark A. Lewis wrote:
 
  Apparently, someone didn't get what they wanted for
  Christmas, is grumpy and feels like being the list police.
  Lighten up man...
  
 
 Do me a favour while I turn the Christmas Turkey. Ask this
 geezer called Mark A. Lewis to stop top-posting. 

Guys, you're on a two way street. Having said that, it happens you're
both right and you're both wrong.

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Bob Taylor

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:02 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:

[snip]

Karanbir,

Have you looked at Usenet? It's user post/OT list history? Should give
you good information on splitting a list into one or more parts and the
results of doing so.

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Bob Taylor

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:08 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 this list isnt really a general list as you put it, its more of a 
 user-help and support list for people who use and are considering to use 
 CentOS.

This is my understanding of the purpose of this list.

  This list is now also at a stage where the on-topic to off-topic 
   ratio is high enough that plenty of people who join to talk about a 
 specific issue, never return back to the list.

I haven't really noticed the on topic off topic ratio being to high.
There will *always* be people who join a list to ask for specific help
then unsubscribe after getting their answer. Such is life.

 So we are not really 
 doing much in terms of building the community, were in a state where 
 there is one group of very vocal people, and lost of drive-by. Is that 
 really the sort of situation we want to encourage and grow further into ?

Are you saying the on topic posting have diminished and the cause is
very vocal people and one subject people who are never heard from
again? It has been my experience this is mostly a normal situation. It
has also been my experience that there are people who just *must*
attempt to take over. I would, after they are identified, just remove
them from the list and blacklist them. Of course, let them know before
hand.

 Also, if you were to be one of the moderators - how many hours a day, 7 
 days a week would you be offering to do sub minute response rates for 
 all list moderation ?

You may be asking for even *more* work with an additional list.

 The CentOS lists are not really moderated much, unless things go very 
 crazy, and imho it would be nice to keep things that way. Focus the 
 conversation, create more avenues for people to interact, and create a 
 feedback loop that really does work. If for most people both the lists 
 are going to be the same thing, well - feel free to subscribe to both. 
 Just consider which one you want to start a conversation in when you do 
 start a conversation and all will be well.

If there is a decision to create two different lists, then I would
strongly suggest that both be well defined as to the purpose as well as
the subject matter allowed.

 Ofcourse, a mechanism to move a conversation between lists, along with 
 auto-subscribe for all users contributing to that thread, into the 
 moved-to-list, would be great to have!

Any programmers want to volunteer?

I have said enough already. Goodbye to this thread.

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Bob Taylor

On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 18:12 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  Have you looked at Usenet? It's user post/OT list history? Should give
  you good information on splitting a list into one or more parts and the
  results of doing so.
 
 Last time I checked, there was more than 1 newsgroup.

Of course! I haven't been on the Linux lists for years. I do remember
there were several. I meant to be specific to Linux lists for historical
information on signal/noise etc. Sorry.

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Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Bob Taylor

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:06 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 A bit of common sense comes in handy. Talking about something that the 
 developers of a component need to weight in on is definitely best suited 
 to the upstream lists for the component. If you hit specific issues with 
 the implementation on CentOS, thats different.

Hm. CentOS is a renamed, compiled from source, of the Red Hat sources
with a CentOS logo inserted at appropriate places plus, perhaps other
changes as required. Having said that and your comment above seems to
leave *very* little to discuss on this list. Since *any* Linux based
distribution includes hundreds of packages, it is my very humble opinion
that this list is the starting place for, especially the very new people
or those with little time to *really* learn the administration of an
operating system such as CentOS. I would would expect the maintainers of
this list to understand this.

I have been running Red Hat since I purchased Linux Unleashed, First
Edition, Copyright 1995 with one CD that contained three complete
distributions with sources. Look at the expansion of the base
distribution now. Personally, I'm *way* behind!

 Random drive by surveys, and request for comments on a blog posts etc 
 are definitely a waste of time for *this* list.

Of course this crap should *not* be tolerated, including spam.
Enough soap box from me.

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RE: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Bob Taylor

On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 12:45 -0700, bruce wrote:
 say bob...
 
 it appears some would like to have the proverbial question how can i do X
 removed as well, particularly if X isn't somehow a direct centos issue.
 however, it might be that X is indeed a package in the centos mirror!!
 
 for my $0.02 worth, asking a question never hurts, and you can always choose
 to not reply, while someone else might repsond with the answer, which then
 might even help someone else who's later searching through the archives!!!

IMHO, other than *very* newbies, I would expect people to at least try
Google, then apropos and man if appropriate. My point was that the base
distribution is now so large, that many people are overwhelmed. Such as:

I've just installed CentOS. my X doesn't work. Now what do I do to fix
it.

A valid question needing a valid answer. List maintainers can do what I
do. Skip the thread.

All too many people just need a place to *start* or a gentle *hint*.
Just *how* many lists are we supposed to be members of?

Bob

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Bob Taylor
I don't think a new list will work any better than this list. As far as
an OT post I will give an example, if somewhat contrived:

I'm looking for a, possible freeware, app that I know *what it does* but
do not have a clue what various and sundry names it hides behind. I've
tried a number of times to generate a google search without luck. Where
do I go to find an answer?

Sometimes to find an answer to a question you must ask somewhere. I'd
rather see someone ask than go back to w*s!

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[CentOS] model_editor.py

2008-08-04 Thread Bob Taylor
I have googled for this and also grepped the hplip sources without
finding it. It is used to convert the models.dat file into models.xml. I
need to insert my printer data into this file as it is not in the 5.2
hplip rpm. Could anyone help? I do not want to replace 5.2 rpm with a
newer one. Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Kernels From CentOS Plus

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Taylor

On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 23:01 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Centosplus's priority was 1. I had totally forgotten a special kernel
  was in that repo and no, I don't have the kernel excluded in
  base/updates. I have since increased the priority of all Centos repos
  other than base to a number greater than 1.
 
 I just wanted to make sure your keep 'updates' at 1.  That is,
 increase the priority of all Centos repos other than base AND
 updates...

OK. Base and updates are priority 1. The rest are greater than 1.

Thanks! 

 Your niece Akemi

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[CentOS] Kernels From CentOS Plus

2008-07-20 Thread Bob Taylor
I found I have the following kernels installed last night:

kernel-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5
kernel-headers-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus
kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5
kernel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus
kernel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5
kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus

Evidently I have a wrong priority for centos plus? I have  the priority
in every item in CentOS-base.repo set to 1. I *think* the kernel in
centos plus was a special one.

Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] Kernels From CentOS Plus

2008-07-20 Thread Bob Taylor

On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 14:29 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found I have the following kernels installed last night:
 
  kernel-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5
  kernel-headers-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus
  kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5
  kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5
  kernel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus
  kernel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5
  kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.centos.plus
 
  Evidently I have a wrong priority for centos plus? I have  the priority
  in every item in CentOS-base.repo set to 1. I *think* the kernel in
  centos plus was a special one.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bob
 
 Hi Uncle Bob,
 
 What is the priority for centosplus set to?  It must be larger than 1
 to give base/updates a higher priority.  Also make sure you are not
 excluding kernel in base/updates.

Hi niece Akemi,

Centosplus's priority was 1. I had totally forgotten a special kernel
was in that repo and no, I don't have the kernel excluded in
base/updates. I have since increased the priority of all Centos repos
other than base to a number greater than 1. I hope there are no other
problems!

Thanks. Always a pleasure to talk to you! Now to remove the centos.plus
kernel.

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[CentOS] Evolution HTML

2008-07-16 Thread Bob Taylor
I've noticed several HTML emails that evo says are unknown attachments
with a blank page on message display. Selecting Edit as New Message
results in seeing the email in the composer. Anyone seeing this? CentOS
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Re: [CentOS] Want to _prevent_ upgrade to centos 5.2

2008-07-02 Thread Bob Taylor

On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 12:37 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:

 I think the firefox/OOo version jumps are the surprises here.  We've 
 come to expect boring consistency with few feature changes across minor 
 updates.  I think it is a great thing for the desktop apps to change 
 faster than the base os and server apps, but it seems like an upstream 
 policy change especially for the big jump in firefox.

Unfortunately Firefox 1.x has become useless on too many sites. A reply
from one was, essentially, gotta keep up with the Joneses.

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Re: [CentOS] mdbtools on CentOS

2008-06-20 Thread Bob Taylor
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 09:25 +0100, Nigel Kendrick wrote:

[snip]

If you, or others like you, insist on using HTML for email to this list
please set your font size to 10!

Thank you!
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Re: [CentOS] [Off Topic, kind of] eMachine model T5254

2008-06-11 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 14:41 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On 6/10/08, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Best Buy currently has an eMachine on sale for less than $300.00
  without monitor. I didn't see any recent complaints on

[snip]

 HW guru I am not. Linux guru I am not. I have a suggestion for you,
 which I believe is a valid one: Take a Knoppix Live CD (that you've
 previously tested on another box and know  is working properly) or a
 CentOS Live CD, with you to the store. Boot the box with it and see if
 the HW works with Linux, before you buy. Preferably, do this on *the*
 box you are going to buy, in case the HW in the floor sample and the
 one you are going to buy are not identical.

Sheesh! Gotta get my brain working properly! I should have thought of
that. Still thinking I have a dial up Internet connection.

 Sounds very cheap and I'd
 like to have one too.  Does Best Buy let one bring something back, for
 a refund, within a certain number of days, if they are not satisfied
 with the product?

Dunno. I would presume yes.

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[CentOS] [Off Topic, kind of] eMachine model T5254

2008-06-10 Thread Bob Taylor
Hi list,

Best Buy currently has an eMachine on sale for less than $300.00
without monitor. I didn't see any recent complaints on
www.consumeraffairs.com. I didn't take the time to do a thourgh search
so may have missed some. Red Hat hardware list does not have one
eMachine listed. I went to eMachine's home page and found the following:

AMD Athlon™ BE-2350 dual-core processor
NVIDIA® GeForce® 6100
2048MB DDR2 dual-channel
320GB 7200rpm SATA II
16x DVD±R/RW SuperMulti drive
High-performance 15-in-1 digital media card reader
6-channel (5.1) high-definition audio

They do not list the manufacturer/model of the media card reader and
audio.

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Re: [CentOS] Low-memory Centos5?

2008-05-29 Thread Bob Taylor
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 14:12 +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
 Jeffrey B. Layton wrote:
  Good morning,
  
  I've inherited an old laptop from my wife that I'd like to
  use when I travel (it's fairly small with a 12 screen). The
  bad part is that it is maxed out on memory with 384MB.
  Has anyone played with using Centos5 on systems with
  little memory? Ideally, I don't need too much - Firefox,
  Openoffice, a little Perl/Python/C here and there. I was
  thinking about using either XFCE or Icewm as the window
  manager. I'd also like it to work with the existing wireless
  card (Dlink DWL-G650). Any thoughts or recommendations?

 
 As others have said, you should be fine with 384MB RAM. One thing to 
 note - I think the graphical installer requires 512MB to run (check the 
 release notes) so you would need to perform a text mode install. Do a 
 fairly minimal install and add whatever you want afterwards with YUM.

I have been running FC 3 and now CentOS 5.1 on an old Gateway 2000 with
only 256MB RAM. Both installed with GUI. Only some editing of services.
I have 1 Gig of swap. I currently have 1 instance of emacs, Evolution,
CDDBSlave2, Firefox 2.0.0.12 and 2 Gnome terminals plus a whole lot of
services running most of which I *hope* I don't need. Screen refresh is
slow but not too much. The machine starts to *really* slow down after
about 15% swap. All I do is logout. Oh, this is my only computer. If
anyone wants to tell me to buy a new one, please send me the money.
Otherwise keep your silence. :-)

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-15 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 16:48 -0500, Doug Tucker wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 15:56 -0500, Scott Nelson wrote:
  On May 14, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Doug Tucker wrote:
  
   ...all but dead...I run a usenet server here, had 3 logins last
   month...user base is over 4000...
  

I *think* Scott wrote:
  Usenet is almost dead but e-mail lists abound (you are using one).   
  Same concepts.
 
 I know, but my point was, since we all use email to read email lists,
 let's get off the old usenet etiquette, and use email etiquette, which
 you will find yourself in the very minute minority that replies bottom
 post.  

Doug, you *still* are missing the point! The *rules* written in the days
of Usenet are *still* applicable today. Why? Because the reason for
their existence hasn't changed. Originally there was Usenet *groups* now
there are email lists. What's the difference? The names.

Bob
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Re: Subject: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box

2008-05-06 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 09:25 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 16:11 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  Lanny Marcus wrote:
   If there is some place I can check in a yum database or RPM database on
   her box, to verify the kernel version that's really installed (probably
   the original one), please let me know where that is. Thanks much! Lanny
  
  rpm -qa kernel*
  
  And: pup is a frontend to yum is a frontend to rpm which holds the
  package database.
 
 Ralph: Thank you for the above! I need to leave now, but I will check
 that out, ASAP! Lanny

Have you looked at the file /etc/rpm/platform? If it has been changed
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Re: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box

2008-05-02 Thread Bob Taylor
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 09:56 -0400, Erek Dyskant wrote:
 
 
 On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 08:39 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
  This morning, I did yum update on my wife's box. It did not update the
  kernel. I ran the command again, and there is a response that no updates
  are available. 
 
 Check /etc/yum.conf and see if there's an exclude=kernel line

Assuming a 32 bit CPU, I would also check /etc/rpm/platform. Something
overwrote mine to i386.

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Re: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box

2008-05-02 Thread Bob Taylor
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 08:19 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 09:56 -0400, Erek Dyskant wrote:
   
   
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 08:39 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 This morning, I did yum update on my wife's box. It did not update 
  the
 kernel. I ran the command again, and there is a response that no 
  updates
 are available.
   
Check /etc/yum.conf and see if there's an exclude=kernel line
 
   Assuming a 32 bit CPU, I would also check /etc/rpm/platform. Something
   overwrote mine to i386.
 
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 Hi uncle Bob,
 
 Good to hear from you.  So this remains mystery?  You never figured
 out who / what did it?
 
 Akemi
 (sorry if this is an OT here)

Hi niece Akemi.
No. I haven't even tried. If there is interest and I have the time

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Re: [CentOS] Downgrade an rpm

2008-03-31 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 16:38 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
  Joseph L. Casale wrote on Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:42:24 -0600:
 

  In that scenario, how does one force a downgrade?
  
 
  On first thought: Force an uninstall via yum (if yum won't do it, use 
  rpm), install the older version via yum (if available from rpmforge) and 
  then exclude it (and probably all related rpms) from yum updating.
 
  There may be better ways.
 
  Kai
 

 Well, yes that could work. use yum erase package name to remove it. 
 But, can one install a specific version of a package from the yum command?
 

Use rpm -i --oldpackage filename?
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[CentOS] Request for hplip upgrade

2008-03-03 Thread Bob Taylor
My wife purchased an HP Deskjet F340 all-in-one printer last year.
CentOS 5 includes hplip-1.6.7. I need at least hplip-2.7.10 which I have
had to install via tarball. Is there any plans to update this package
soon?

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Re: [CentOS] Request for hplip upgrade

2008-03-03 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 12:17 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My wife purchased an HP Deskjet F340 all-in-one printer last year.
   CentOS 5 includes hplip-1.6.7. I need at least hplip-2.7.10 which I have
   had to install via tarball. Is there any plans to update this package
   soon?
 
   Thanks
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 Uncle Bob,
 
 If you'd really like to use the hplip package rather than going for
 alternative ways, I suggest you rebuild it from the Fedora srpm.  It
 is much better than installing from a tarball.  Just found that
 hplip-2.7.12-4 for fc8 rebuilds without difficulties.  I can offer the
 stuff I built for CentOS-5 if you like.

Why thank you Akemi! I *really* don't like messing with a distribution.
Unfortunately, sometimes what I need is just not there.

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RE: [CentOS] Request for hplip upgrade

2008-03-03 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 14:41 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  
[snip]

 Instead of the whole HPLIP tar ball you can download just the particular
 CUPS PPD file for a printer and install that under /usr/share/... and
 it should then be supported.

I have already make installed the tarball.

Eh? No PPD's in /usr/share/cups nor my printer
in /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/PPD/HP. I will get the rpm stuff from
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Re: [CentOS] Request for hplip upgrade

2008-03-03 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 13:37 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  My wife purchased an HP Deskjet F340 all-in-one printer last year.
  CentOS 5 includes hplip-1.6.7. I need at least hplip-2.7.10 which I have
  had to install via tarball. Is there any plans to update this package
  soon?
 
 Our goal is to be 100% directly compatible with the upstream EL 
 software.  So, the short answer is ... I have no idea when or if they 
 will put that in a current product.
 
 If you want to know what MIGHT be in CentOS-6 (still probably 6-8 months 
 away) you can look in Fedora 9.  The version there (in what is called 
 Rawhide) is currently hplip-2.7.12-5.fc9.src.rpm:

Sorry Johnny, I was not specific. What I left off was if the developers
were aware of Red Hat's plans. I just presumed they had *some* inkling.
This is *one* package that *should* be updated fairly continuously for
new printers. Perhaps the current maintainers wouldn't mind?
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[CentOS] Requests for inclusion in CentOS Extras [Was Re: Gnumeric]

2008-03-02 Thread Bob Taylor
Changed thread subject to (hopefully) put requests under the same
thread.

Unless I have missed a replacement package, I would like to see gnucash
included. I *think* I found it in FC8.
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[CentOS] What wrote to /etc/rpm/platform! Was: Yum not updating kernel

2008-03-01 Thread Bob Taylor
Thought I should start a new thread since the subject has changed.

It seems I have lost some email. I logged out Tuesday night and couldn't
log back in. I had some unexpected problems reinstalling and also some
commitments. Finally back! Whew! I *hate* reinstalls!

Anaconda is not the problem in modifying /etc/rpm/platform
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-27 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 06:29 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:

[snip]

  OK! Thanks Johnny. You just confirmed a bug here. Now I will, as time
  allows, see if I can discover why /etc/rpm/platform is incorrect. Since
  the file is in an rpm directory, shall I look at rpm? I promise *not* to
  begin another thread like this one! I'm a nice guy, really!
  
 
 This file (/etc/rpm/platform) is created by anaconda on install and is 
 NOT owned by RPM or any other package.  It is USED by rpm to determine 
 your real arch where there are possibly multiple arches (based on your 
 processor type).
 
 I[3,4,5,6]86 packages can coexist with each other in an i386 distro 
 install, however you can not install an i386 package and another 
 i[4,5,6]86 package with the same Name and Epoch-Version-Release (EVR) at 
 the same time.  On Red Hat based distros, /etc/rpm/platform is used to 
 define the main arch where more than one (based on the processor) could 
 be main.
 
 Also I[3,4,5,6]86 packages can exist in an x86_64 arch install and 
 I[3,4,5,6]86 packages can exist in an ia64 arch install. These (x86_64 
 and ia64) are 64bit/32bit library (aka multilib) arches.  They can have 
 lib64 and lib directories and have both an i[3,4,5,6]86 package and an 
 x86_64 (or ia64) package installed that have the same Name and EVR.
 
 Other examples of 32bit/64bit (multilib) arches are s390 and s390x, ppc 
 and ppc64, and finally sparc and sparc64.  In each of these you can have 
 a 32bit (lib) and a 64bit (lib64) package of the same Name and EVR 
 installed at the same time.
 
 
 So, on x86_64, you CAN have glibc.x86_64 and glibc.i686. On sparc, you 
 CAN have glibc.sparc and glibc.sparc64 .. but on i386 you CAN NOT have 
 glibc.i386 and glibc.i686.
 
 I can think of nothing that will (or should) change that file 
 (/etc/rpm/platform) except running anaconda (the installer from a CentOS 
 CD / DVD).
 
 If something does modify that file it is definitely a bug.  Well, if you 
 are BUILDING files with rpmbuild then sometimes on some of the multilib 
 arches you might want to change /etc/rpm/platform to get specific 
 results ... but that would be a controlled process and I know of no 
 packages that do it automatically.
 
 Some of the links by Ross seem to indicate that unixODBC-devel might 
 impact /etc/rpm/platform ... however the version i386 version in 
 centos-5 does not seem to as I have installed it several times for 
 testing and it did not change my /etc/rpm/platform.
 
 I have looked at several i386 machines, and all of them have an 
 /etc/rpm/platform that is created on the install date, none of them have 
 a file that has been modified.
 
 If we can nail down something that changed /etc/rpm/platform it would be 
 good, as that file should never change.

Thanks again Johnny for the info. The only non-rpm I recall installing
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-26 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 22:46 -0800, John R Pierce wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 00:19 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

  Bob Taylor wrote:
  
 
  [snip]
 

  uname -imp:
 
  i686 i686 i386
 
  Don't know why the kernel says it's an i386. Kernel bug? Gateway
  purchase?

  i386 is the architecture, in there you have processor flavors
  which can be i386 (generic), i486, i586 and i686 tuned. C5 only
  carries the generic i386 (default compile options) and the i686
  tuned binaries, i586 tuned binaries are no longer being supported
  after C4.
  
 
  What does this say my cpu is:
 
  vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
  cpu family  : 6
  model   : 5
  model name  : Pentium II (Deschutes)
 
  [snip]
 

  The uname output is valid for your install, the question now is
  why rpm refuses to install valid architecture binaries on your
  system.
  
 
  So, my cpu is not an i686?

 
 a P-II should be.  i686 is everything from the Pentium Pro onwards, 
 including P-II, P-III, P4, core, and the various clones.  it does NOT 
 include the original Pentiums (p5 and p54) or 'pentium w/ MMX', those 
 are i586.

What is model : 5 above compared to p5?
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-26 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 08:14 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:

[snip]

 what happens if you edit /etc/rpm/platform and change it too:
 
 i686-redhat-linux

Nothing.

I downloaded the current rpm file this morning and ran rpm -Uvh
--force /home/brtaylor/rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.i386.rpm.

Rpm seems to behave oddly. I had downloaded the current kernel rpm and
installed it with the command rpm -ivh --ignorearch [file] successfully.
I can not remove it with the command rpm -e kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13 but
can if I add .el5 to the end it does. Before I deleted it I ran the
command rpm -ql kernel and all three kernels rpm files were listed
including the kernel rpm which rpm -e said wasn't installed. This
doesn't make sense to me.

I have done the following:

rpm -Uvh --force /home/brtaylor/rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.i386.rpm
edit /etc/rpm/platform to i686-redhat-linux
rpm -e kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5
yum clean all
yum upgrade kernel
returned Installed: kernel.i686 0:2.6.18-53.1.13.el5
Complete!

It looks like the problem may be in rpm after 4.4.2-37. Before I go to
the rpm people, I need to confer with Ray Van Dolson who says his is the
same as mine and he has no problem updating kernels. After Ray and I
resolve this issue, I will send a last email to the list hopefully
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel [personal]

2008-02-26 Thread Bob Taylor
Ray Van Dolson please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-26 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 11:22 -0800, Garrick Staples wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:19:36AM -0800, Bob Taylor alleged:
  I can not remove it with the command rpm -e kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13 but
  can if I add .el5 to the end it does. Before I deleted it I ran the
 
 That's correct.  53.1.13 is the not same as 53.1.13.el5.
 
 The version is 2.6.18 and the release is 53.1.13.el5.  You can specify the
 version or version-release, but not different substrings.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-26 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 11:51 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:

[snip]

  It looks like the problem may be in rpm after 4.4.2-37. Before I go to
  the rpm people, I need to confer with Ray Van Dolson who says his is the
  same as mine and he has no problem updating kernels. After Ray and I
  resolve this issue, I will send a last email to the list hopefully
  ending this subject with the resolution to this problem.
  
 
 Bob, so it appears the above did work?

It did.

 I don't recall what exactly I said was the same on my system as
 yours... but, my /etc/rpm/platform is:

 Mine reports the same as yours and I have no problem updating kernels.

I believe this was in reference to uname -imp which mine results in

i686 i686 i386

Notice the processor. By all accounts it should be i686.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-26 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 10:33 -0800, Scott Silva wrote:

[snip]

  The contents of,
 
  # cat /etc/rpm/platform
  i386-redhat-linux
  
  Good
 Shouldn't this be i686-redhat-linux ?

Bingo! Better late than never! :-) That is exactly the problem!

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-26 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 16:09 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:

[snip]
 
  Would anaconda even allow C5 to install on such a class cpu?
 
 no ... and we have no i386 kernel ... no idea how that file got changed, 
 but the only code to make it happen would be a pentium classic 
 processor.  C5 would just die, as there is not one. (c4 too)

OK! Thanks Johnny. You just confirmed a bug here. Now I will, as time
allows, see if I can discover why /etc/rpm/platform is incorrect. Since
the file is in an rpm directory, shall I look at rpm? I promise *not* to
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RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-26 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 15:27 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

[snip]

 I think there may be a case or two of bad packages updating that file
 I believe these are some dumb Mozilla plugins though, googling got
 me these:
 
 http://dnmouse.webs.com/playdvdsmore.htm
 
 and here:
 
 http://www.fedorafaq.org/
 
 The OP had a lot of kitchen sinks installed maybe a broken plugin
 was the cause of all that grief. Probably right around the time
 he installed that repo and things stopped working.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 22:55 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:

[snip]

 Mine reports the same as yours and I have no problem updating kernels.

Sigh! So I have the same problem with rpm? It rejects installing an i686
rpm.

[snip]

 Something is missing.  It's probably something very simple.  I still
 think you should let someone log in as root into your box and figure it
 out for you. :)

I would love this. However I don't know what my IP is nor how to find
out. It's been too long and too much has changed.

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RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:41 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

[snip]

 Bob,
 
 Lets get this fixed so we can kill this thread.

I agree totally! The problem is with rpm. It refuses to install a non
i386 rpm. I have verified this by downloading the latest kernel rpm. I
had to use --ignorearch flag to get rpm to install it. Now how do I get
this flag to yum? I have exactarch=0 in /etc/yum.conf which I presumed
was to fix this. It does not work. I have tried to pass this flag
via /root/.rpmmacros with no help. So, why do only myself apparently
have this problem? One other item. I made *no* changes to any yum files
after installation except the addition of (maybe) rpmforge. One kernel
was updated around this time. My guess is the problem started around the
update to 5.1. Anybody have any input as to why at least one person does
not have this problem? What could he have that is different from me
regarding yum and rpm? Reading this I apologize for the ramble.

Oct 10 09:14:15 Installed: kernel.i686 2.6.18-8.1.14.el5
Last kernel update. A lot of activity Oct 12-15. Possible 5.1 update
during this period.

 Can you include the output of these commands:
 
 # cat /etc/redhat-release
 
 # yum list installed '*yum*'
 
 # cat /etc/yum.conf
 
 # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo

I removed yum and reinstalled then yum update yum with no help. No sense
to include these again here.

 From these we should be able to determine if your base installation
 is correct.

It is *not* a yum config problem.

 If it isn't a config problem then we can look at permissions and
 network next.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 15:02 -0500, Alfred von Campe wrote:
 Bob:
 
  I agree totally! The problem is with rpm. It refuses to install a non
  i386 rpm.
 
 What are the contents of the ~/.rpmmacros file (for root)?

Empty

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:10 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:

[snip]

 Well, exactarch=0 might work around this from a yum standpoint (as far
 as downloading the updates), but if RPM is complaining this is beyond
 the control of yum.  As someone else mentioned, taking a look at your
 ~/.rpmmacros file would be interesting.

It was empty.

 Also, could you post the output of:
 
   rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' kernel

kernel-2.6.18-8.el5.i686
kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5.i686
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.i686

The last kernel was installed manually using --ignorearch.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:19 -0800, John R Pierce wrote:
 Peter Kjellstrom wrote:
  On Monday 25 February 2008, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

  Lets get this fixed so we can kill this thread.
  
 
  Good initiative, but since the layer beneath also fails (rpm) maybe we 
  should 
  start there. rpm -qi kernel or maybe bad stuff in /etc/sysconfig kernel.
 
  The interesting error from RPM suggests that it thinks the machine is an 
  i586 
  (or atleast not i686).

 
 
 indeed, lets add
 
 $ cat /proc/cpuinfo

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 5
model name  : Pentium II (Deschutes)
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 398.296
cache size  : 512 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 mmx fxsr up
bogomips: 797.12

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RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 16:34 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  
  On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:41 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
   Bob,
   
   Lets get this fixed so we can kill this thread.
  
  I agree totally! The problem is with rpm. It refuses to install a non
  i386 rpm. I have verified this by downloading the latest kernel rpm. I
 
 If rpm is broken, why not try to upgrade rpm on top of itself?
 
 rpm -Uvh --force rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.rpm
 
 You will need to manually download the rpm package again.
 
  had to use --ignorearch flag to get rpm to install it. Now how do I get
  this flag to yum? I have exactarch=0 in /etc/yum.conf which I presumed
  was to fix this. It does not work. I have tried to pass this flag
  via /root/.rpmmacros with no help. So, why do only myself apparently
  have this problem? One other item. I made *no* changes to any yum files
  after installation except the addition of (maybe) rpmforge. One kernel
  was updated around this time. My guess is the problem started around the
  update to 5.1. Anybody have any input as to why at least one person does
  not have this problem? What could he have that is different from me
  regarding yum and rpm? Reading this I apologize for the ramble.
 
 
 Bob,
 
 I wouldn't muck with any more options, try to undo the changes you
 have made.

Didn't make any except possibly rpmforge.repo.

 I didn't see what the rpm error was you got when you tried to
 install it, did you post it to the thread?
 
 You said you re-installed yum, how did you remove yum?

yum remove yum
Installed yum from my installation CD, ran yum update yum with no
change.

 If you did a rpm -e yum, then the yum plugins may have still been left
 behind. Here is the list you provided earlier:

None.

[snip]

 The yum plugin that catches my attention is 'yum-versionlock'

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 21:22 +0100, Peter Kjellstrom wrote:
 On Monday 25 February 2008, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
  Lets get this fixed so we can kill this thread.
 
 Good initiative, but since the layer beneath also fails (rpm) maybe we should 
 start there. rpm -qi kernel or maybe bad stuff in /etc/sysconfig kernel.

Where I am confused is the original kernel and ONE update is in
the /var/log/yum.log then nada.

I seem to recall a discussion many months ago regarding an i686 kernel
being installed from an i386 directory. If you look at
http://isodirect.centos.org/centos/5/updates you will not see an i686
directory, just i386 and ia-64. All rpms in the i386 directory are i386
except the kernels and very few others.

/etc/sysconfig/kernel:
# UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should make
# new kernels the default
UPDATEDEFAULT=yes

# DEFAULTKERNEL specifies the default kernel package type
DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel

 The interesting error from RPM suggests that it thinks the machine is an i586 
 (or atleast not i686).

uname -imp:

i686 i686 i386

Don't know why the kernel says it's an i386. Kernel bug? Gateway
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RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 23:44 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 12:10 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
   Well, exactarch=0 might work around this from a yum 
  standpoint (as far
   as downloading the updates), but if RPM is complaining this 
  is beyond
   the control of yum.  As someone else mentioned, taking a 
  look at your
   ~/.rpmmacros file would be interesting.
  
  It was empty.
  
   Also, could you post the output of:
   
 rpm -q --queryformat 
  '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' kernel
  
  kernel-2.6.18-8.el5.i686
  kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5.i686
  kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.i686
  
  The last kernel was installed manually using --ignorearch.
 
 Bob,
 
 What's the output of,
 
 # rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm

rpm-4.4.2-47.el5.i386

 The contents of,
 
 # cat /etc/rpm/platform

i386-redhat-linux

 And the output of,
 
 # rpm --eval '%_arch'

i386

 Also, did you re-install rpm by forcing an upgrade in place of rpm with,

I ran yum remove yum. I did not remove rpm nor did an rpm --force.

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RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 00:43 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 Garrick Staples wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:25:32AM -0500, Ross S. W. Walker alleged:
   Bob Taylor wrote:
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 23:44 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 The contents of,
 
 # cat /etc/rpm/platform

i386-redhat-linux
   
   Good
  
  Isn't that the problem?  All of my machines say i686, athlon, 
  ia32e, x86_64,
  etc.  None of them say i386.
 
 Ooops, I saw i686 when I looked the first time, yes, this should
 be i686-redhat-linux. Good catch.
 
 Bob, can you try manually changing this to say i686-redhat-linux,
 I believe this is auto-generated at boot so it isn't a permanent
 fix, but lets see if it updates after this by booting into the
 older kernel (may need to manually change this file again),
 removing the newer kernel and then try a 'yum update'.

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RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 00:19 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:

[snip]

  uname -imp:
  
  i686 i686 i386
  
  Don't know why the kernel says it's an i386. Kernel bug? Gateway
  purchase?
 
 i386 is the architecture, in there you have processor flavors
 which can be i386 (generic), i486, i586 and i686 tuned. C5 only
 carries the generic i386 (default compile options) and the i686
 tuned binaries, i586 tuned binaries are no longer being supported
 after C4.

What does this say my cpu is:

vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 5
model name  : Pentium II (Deschutes)

[snip]

 The uname output is valid for your install, the question now is
 why rpm refuses to install valid architecture binaries on your
 system.

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RE: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-25 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 00:25 -0500, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

[snip]

  Then verify your Internet connection works properly
 with yum (are you behind a proxy server?), and see what that does.

Dunno about proxy server. I'm behind an HughesNet satellite modem. Most
likely that thingy that changes your IP periodically (my database
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-24 Thread Bob Taylor
On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 10:54 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
   * Remove ALL plugins
   * Disable ALL third party repo's.
   * Do a yum clean all
   * Revert to the default CentOS .repo files
   * Revert to default yum.conf file
 
 If it works in this configuration, you can start adding things back one
 at a time.

I reached the same conclusion Saturday myself. I yum remove yum and
reinstalled yum  pirut from my installation CD. The yum refused to
update the kernel. I gave up on yum and downloaded the current kernel
rpm. I rpm -i kernel* and received the following error message from rpm:

package kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5 is intended for a i686 architecture

There is my problem! uname -ipm results in i686 i686 i386. It looks like
yum is looking at uname -i.

 Maybe you've already tried this, I don't know.  It's been a long
 thread. :)

I agree. Waaay to long. Now what do the experts have to say about this?
All packages *except* the kernel files are i386. I want to end this,
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-23 Thread Bob Taylor
On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 03:47 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:

[snip]

 based on this output ... somehow your kernel is excluded in update set, 
 even though it sees kernel-doc.noarch and kernel-headers.i386.
 
 This leads me to believe that there is a exclude=kernel somewhere in a 
 config file:

I just read man yum.conf again and I see this:

installonlypkgs
List  of  packages  that  should  only  ever be installed, never
updated. Kernels in particular fall into this category. Defaults to
‘kernel, kernel-smp, kernel-bigmem, kernel-enterprise, kernel-debug,
kernel-unsupported’.

What I missed is never updated. If this is my problem, how do I fix
it?

 please check /etc/yum.conf again

No exclude in any config file.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-23 Thread Bob Taylor
On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 06:25 -0500, William L. Maltby wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 23:45 -0800, Bob Taylor wrote:

[snip]

 == Useless/uninteresting lines snipped =
 [rpmforge] name = Red Hat Enterprise $releasever - RPMforge.net - dag
 mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el4/en/mirrors-rpmforge
 enabled = 1
 gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dag
 gpgcheck = 1
 # NEXT LINE WRAPPED - CAREFUL
 protect=0 priority=10 includepkgs=bittorrent.noarch, bittorrent-
 gui.noarch, python-khashmir.noarch, python-crypto.i386 rtorrent,
 libtorrent.i386, libtorrent-devel.i386, libsigc*, mplayer.i386, mplayer-
 docs.i386, mplayer-fonts.noarch, mplayerplug-in.i386, aalib.i386,
 faac.i386, lame.i386, libXvMCW.i386, libdvdnav.i386, libmad.i386,
 libmpcdec.i386, lirc.i386, lzo.i386, openal.i386, x264.i386,
 xvidcore.i386, libmp4v2.i386 gkrellm.i386 # mplayer-skins.noarch,
 ==
 
 Some of the above may not be appropriate any more - I've not looked in
 awhile.

Someone just said *not* to use protect and priority together.

Red Hat has a propensity to remove any documentation on a package that
does not have a man page. Sometimes it's included in /usr/share/doc and
sometimes in /usr/lib and sometimes it's just not there. There is,
hopefully *some* documentation on plugins other than how to write one. I
would like to know *what* plugins actually *do*.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-22 Thread Bob Taylor
It seems everybody is out of ideas why yum is not updating the kernel.
The following kernels are installed in /boot:

vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5
vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.el5

I originally installed CentOS 5.0 via CD. Yum automatically updated to
5.1 including kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5.

I have traced the kernels from kernel-2.6.18-8.el5 to
kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5. Yum stopped updating at this point.
kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 was installed Oct 10, 2007 according to
yum.log. It seems I installed rpmforge.repo around October 13, 2007. The
installation included two files. rpmforge.repo and mirrors-rpmforge. The
contents of rpmforge.repo is:

# Name: RPMforge RPM Repository for Red Hat Enterprise 5 - dag
# URL: http://rpmforge.net/
[rpmforge]
name = Red Hat Enterprise $releasever - RPMforge.net - dag
#baseurl = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag
mirrorlist = http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/mirrors-rpmforge
#mirrorlist = file:///etc/yum.repos.d/mirrors-rpmforge
enabled = 1
priority = 99
protect = 0
gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmforge-dag
gpgcheck = 1

Other than the priority is not needed, does any of the previous ring a
bell? Still frustrated.

I received the following this morning:

/etc/cron.daily/yum.cron:

Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base
Could not retrieve mirrorlist
http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5arch=i386repo=os error was
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 505: DNS lookup error
Could not retrieve mirrorlist
http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5arch=i386repo=os error was
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 506: Failure To Connect To Web Server

Has CentOS.org changed their url?

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-22 Thread Bob Taylor
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 14:41 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It seems everybody is out of ideas why yum is not updating the kernel.
   The following kernels are installed in /boot:
 
   vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5
   vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.el5
 
   I originally installed CentOS 5.0 via CD. Yum automatically updated to
   5.1 including kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5.
 
 The kernel that came with CentOS 5.1 was kernel-2.6.18-53.  Could you post 
 your:
 
 /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo

I misspoke. Yum installed kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14 October 13, 2007
according to yum.log. So, yum appears to have worked *once* updating the
kernel. Looking in CentOS vault, I saw .15 which gives me a time frame
for what it's worth. All I did was add rpmforge. I have removed it with
no help. I will post any file related to this mystery when requested.
Time wise, I have spent at least 4 days attempting to locate this
failure. Here is the file you requested:

# CentOS-Base.repo
#
# This file uses a new mirrorlist system developed by Lance Davis for
CentOS.
# The mirror system uses the connecting IP address of the client and the
# update status of each mirror to pick mirrors that are updated to and
# geographically close to the client.  You should use this for CentOS
updates
# unless you are manually picking other mirrors.
#
# If the mirrorlist= does not work for you, as a fall back you can try
the 
# remarked out baseurl= line instead.
#
#

[base]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Base
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=os
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
priority=1
protect=1

#released updates 
[updates]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=updates
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
priority=1
protect=1

#packages used/produced in the build but not released
[addons]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Addons
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=addons
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/addons/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
priority=1
protect=0
#additional packages that may be useful
[extras]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Extras
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=extras
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/extras/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
priority=1
protect=0

#additional packages that extend functionality of existing packages
[centosplus]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Plus
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=centosplus
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/centosplus/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
enabled=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5
priority=2
protect=0

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-22 Thread Bob Taylor
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 18:25 -0700, Shad L. Lords wrote:
  I misspoke. Yum installed kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14 October 13, 2007
  according to yum.log. So, yum appears to have worked *once* updating the
  kernel. Looking in CentOS vault, I saw .15 which gives me a time frame
  for what it's worth. All I did was add rpmforge. I have removed it with
  no help. I will post any file related to this mystery when requested.
 
 What does the following command produce on your system?
 
 yum --noplugins --disable '*' --enable updates list 'kernel*'


yum --noplugins --disable '*' --enable updates list 'kernel*'
Setting up repositories
updates   100% |=|  951 B
00:00 
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Installed Packages
kernel.i686  2.6.18-8.1.14.el5
installed   
kernel.i686  2.6.18-8.el5
installed   
kernel-headers.i386  2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.cen
installed   
Available Packages
kernel-doc.noarch2.6.18-53.1.13.el5
updates 
kernel-headers.i386  2.6.18-53.1.13.el5
updates 

Doesn't look like the problem is in plug-ins but maybe updates?

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-22 Thread Bob Taylor
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 19:56 -0500, William L. Maltby wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:37 -0800, Bob Taylor wrote:
  On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 14:41 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
   On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   snip
  snip

[snip]

 Priority *and* protect? Supposed to be a no-no.
 
 Worse, it's on the updates too. I would carefully examine all your repo
 defs and have *either* protect or priority, but not both. Also make sure
 the settings are appropriate sionce you've add some other repos.

Thanks for your response, Bill. I added the protect lines attempting to
locate this problem. I've removed all protect lines.

 I've been using Rpmforge for a long time, NP. But at the time I
 established priorities, I disabled all protect settings.
 
 And there are a couple exclude and include setups for a few special
 instances.

Mind telling me what these are?

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-20 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 02:22 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 14:27 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Feb 19, 2008 1:58 PM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Please look at the file /var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt and see the
 first server from that list.  If it is not a belnet.be mirror, please
 tell me which one it is, as it may be out of date.
   
According to Bob's earlier post, he does not seem to have the
fastestmirror plugin.  So he probably does not have that file...
   
Bob, do a 'yum install yum-fastestmirror' and try again.
 
   Did so. No help. FYI no timedhosts.txt in the rpm. I still think the
   problem lies in yum's message Could not find update match for kernel.
 
 timedhosts.txt is NOT in the rpm.  It is created when you run yum and
 contains the names of the mirror sites yum tried to access.  Johnny
 wanted to know which site yum attempted to use.  If you do not see
 this file even after yum was run, then something is amiss there.

My bad! It's there. I was looking in the wrong directory and didn't
notice until later. The file currently contains:

mirror.centos.org 1.90688800812

Shouldn't yum update kernel update all kernel rpms installed? Rpm -q
kernel returns all kernel rpm's I have installed (ie kernel-2.6.18-8.el5
kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5)

I tried this (yum update kernel) which reported: Could not find update
match for kernel. How do I find what arch yum is using? This may be a
clue why the kernel only is not being updated. This is what uname -rmpi
returns:

uname -rmpi
2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 i686 i686 i386

 Akemi

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-20 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 23:14 -0800, John R Pierce wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  Hm. I just noticed http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/updates/i386/RPMS/
  kernel listings are i686.rpm. Could my problem be this is confusing yum
  as I use i386 and this is the i386 directory? Doesn't make sense since
  no one else seems to have this. Of course their are most likely few
  running Pentium II's. Searching for answers in the dark.


 um, i686 is pentium pro and beyond, including P-II, P3, P4, and Core, as 
 well as the various Athlons. AFAIK, CentOS 5 doesn't support the 
 older i486/i585 variants

cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 5
model name  : Pentium II (Deschutes)
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 398.278
cache size  : 512 KB

Sorry, I didn't actually say I have a Pentium II. Just implied I did.
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-20 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 10:58 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:

[snip]

 OK .. lets go at this a different way :)
 
 what is the output of the following comamnd (put it all on one line if 
 it wraps):
 
 rpm -qa yum\* sqlite\* python\* rpm\* centos\* | sort

centos-release-5-1.0.el5.centos.1
centos-release-notes-5.1.0-2
python-2.4.3-19.el5
python-devel-2.4.3-19.el5
python-elementtree-1.2.6-5
python-imaging-1.1.6-2.el5.rf
python-ldap-2.2.0-2.1
python-numeric-23.7-2.2.2
python-sqlite-1.1.7-1.2.1
python-urlgrabber-3.1.0-2
rpm-4.4.2-47.el5
rpm-build-4.4.2-47.el5
rpm-devel-4.4.2-47.el5
rpmforge-release-0.3.6-1.el5.rf
rpm-libs-4.4.2-47.el5
rpm-python-4.4.2-47.el5
sqlite-3.3.6-2
sqlite-devel-3.3.6-2
yum-3.0.5-1.el5.centos.5
yum-cron-0.6-1.el5.centos
yum-downloadonly-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2
yumex-2.0.3-2.el5.centos
yum-fastestmirror-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2
yum-metadata-parser-1.0-8.fc6
yum-priorities-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2
yum-repolist-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2
yum-skip-broken-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2
yum-updatesd-3.0.5-1.el5.centos.5
yum-utils-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2
yum-versionlock-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-20 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 09:28 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 10:58 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 
   [snip]
 
OK .. lets go at this a different way :)
   
what is the output of the following comamnd (put it all on one line if
it wraps):
   
rpm -qa yum\* sqlite\* python\* rpm\* centos\* | sort
 
   yum-versionlock-1.0.4-3.el5.centos.2
 
 Any chance you have the kernel listed in
 /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/versionlock.list and versionlock enabled??

versionlock.list is disabled and there is no file versionlock.
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 23:02 -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 10:56:58PM -0800, Bob Taylor wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 20:24 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:

[snip]

 Coming in late on this thread, but... 
 
   1. Can you point your repo's at a different URL?
   2. Have you tried a 'yum clean all' first?
   3. Try disabling everything _but_ the update repo, doing yum clean
  and then yum update.
 
  yum clean all
  yum --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=updates update

After running both commands I receive the following:

0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion

Still haven't found the problem! I have also put priority=1 in both base
and updates. No help. So...if Ed's is working, why isn't mine? Is
yum-updatesd the problem? Should I use Michael's script? This has become
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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:58 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:

[snip]

 sounds like the mirror you are updating from is not up to date.

I *think* I'm using
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/

I have found that there is no kernel at rpmforge so I have commented out
all mirror urls in /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo file and disabled
the rpmforge.repo file setting enabled=0. I have also set priority=1.
This creates a problem updating the kernel if you have rpms from
rpmforge. Is there a fix for this?

From what I gather from the message Could not find update match for
kernel. This is my problem. Why can't it find this match. What match is
yum looking for?

 We currently know that one mirror is bad:
 
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2008-February/002532.html
 
 Please look at the file /var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt and see the 
 first server from that list.  If it is not a belnet.be mirror, please 
 tell me which one it is, as it may be out of date.

I don't have this file.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 04:59 -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote:

[snip]

 -=-=-=-=-
 #!/bin/sh
 # /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron
 
 if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/yum ]; then
  /usr/bin/yum clean headers
  /usr/bin/yum -e 0 -d 0 -y update yum
  sleep 300
  /usr/bin/yum -e 0 -d 0 -y update
  sleep 10
  /usr/bin/yum clean headers
 fi
 -=-=-=-=-

I commented out the clean headers and sleep lines. Stopped yum-updatesd
and executed the script from the command line and it just sleeps (ie, ps
aux script STAT=S). Curious.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Taylor
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 14:27 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Feb 19, 2008 1:58 PM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Bob Taylor wrote:
 
  sounds like the mirror you are updating from is not up to date.
 
  We currently know that one mirror is bad:
 
  http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2008-February/002532.html
 
  Please look at the file /var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt and see the
  first server from that list.  If it is not a belnet.be mirror, please
  tell me which one it is, as it may be out of date.
 
 According to Bob's earlier post, he does not seem to have the
 fastestmirror plugin.  So he probably does not have that file...
 
 Bob, do a 'yum install yum-fastestmirror' and try again.

Did so. No help. FYI no timedhosts.txt in the rpm. I still think the
problem lies in yum's message Could not find update match for kernel.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Taylor
Hm. I just noticed http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/updates/i386/RPMS/
kernel listings are i686.rpm. Could my problem be this is confusing yum
as I use i386 and this is the i386 directory? Doesn't make sense since
no one else seems to have this. Of course their are most likely few
running Pentium II's. Searching for answers in the dark.

Shouldn't yum update kernel work update just the kernel* rpms?
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[CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-18 Thread Bob Taylor
I'm having the same problem as Valent Turkovic. I have the
following /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo (mind the line-wraps):

[base]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Base
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo=os
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

#released updates 
[updates]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates
#mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo=updates
baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

#packages used/produced in the build but not released
[addons]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Addons
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo=addons
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/addons/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

#additional packages that may be useful
[extras]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Extras
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo=extras
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/extras/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

#additional packages that extend functionality of existing packages
[centosplus]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Plus
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo=centosplus
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/centosplus/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
enabled=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

I have missed any fixes for this since the suggestion to comment the
mirrorlist line and uncomment the baseurl line (which doesn't work.

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-18 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 10:10 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Feb 18, 2008 9:52 AM, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm having the same problem as Valent Turkovic. I have the
  following /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo (mind the line-wraps):
 
 Would you post the output of:
 
 uname -mr

2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 i686

 rpm -qa | grep ^kernel | sort

kernel-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5
kernel-2.6.18-8.el5
kernel-headers-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.centos.plus

I manually added kernel-headers. BTW uname -a says:

uname -a
Linux ann.qtpi.local 2.6.18-8.1.14.el5 #1 SMP Thu Sep 27 18:58:54 EDT
2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-18 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 16:31 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Feb 18, 2008 2:40 PM, Ed Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am having the same issue

 First make sure you do not have any line like:
 
 exclude=kernel  -OR-
 exclude=kernel*

I have no excludes

 in /etc/yum.conf or /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo
 
 Then try updating the kernel by:
 
 yum -d5 update kernel
 
 Does the output show any hint?

yum -d5 update kernel
Loading skip-broken plugin
versionlock plugin is disabled
Loading installonlyn plugin
Loading downloadonly plugin
Loading priorities plugin
Running config handler for skip-broken plugin
Running config handler for installonlyn plugin
Running config handler for downloadonly plugin
Running config handler for priorities plugin
Yum Version: 3.0.5
COMMAND: yum -d5 
Installroot: /
Ext Commands:

   kernel
Setting up Update Process
Setting up repositories
rpmforge  100% |=| 1.1 kB
00:00 
base  100% |=| 1.1 kB
00:00 
updates   100% |=|  951 B
00:00 
centosplus100% |=|  951 B
00:00 
addons100% |=|  951 B
00:00 
extras100% |=| 1.1 kB
00:00 
Running postreposetup handler for downloadonly plugin
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Setting up Package Sacks
Running exclude handler for priorities plugin
0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Reading Local RPMDB
Building updates object
Could not find update match for kernel
No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion

I see nothing other than the second to last line.


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Re: [CentOS] Yum not updating kernel

2008-02-18 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 20:24 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:

 yum install yum-repolist

 Then run:
 
yum repolist
 
 to list all the repos you have on your system and their status.

After running yum install yum-repolist
yum repolist is:

Loading skip-broken plugin
Loading installonlyn plugin
Loading downloadonly plugin
Loading priorities plugin
Loading repolist plugin

repo id repo name   status
priority
=== =   ==

rpmforgeRed Hat Enterprise 5 - RPMforge.net enabled 99
baseCentOS-5 - Base enabled 99
updates CentOS-5 - Updates  enabled 99
c5-mediaCentOS-5 - Mediadisabled99
centosplus  CentOS-5 - Plus enabled 99
addons  CentOS-5 - Addons   enabled 99
extras  CentOS-5 - Extras   enabled 99

Looks OK to me. What the hell is our problem? All my updates are via
yum. I received 1 updated kernel in September and none since.

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[CentOS] No installed updated kernels via yum

2008-02-15 Thread Bob Taylor
Subject says it all. Running yum install kernel or yum install
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.i686.rpm gives nothing to do. Yum runs daily
via cron. Last kernel installed in /boot via yum is:

 Sep 27 16:38 vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.1.14.el5

/etc/yum.conf contains:

[main]
cachedir=/var/cache/yum
keepcache=1
debuglevel=2
logfile=/var/log/yum.log
pkgpolicy=newest
distroverpkg=redhat-release
tolerant=1
exactarch=1
obsoletes=1
gpgcheck=1
plugins=1
metadata_expire=1800

# PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo
# in /etc/yum.repos.d

/etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo contains:

[base]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Base
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=os
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

#released updates 
[updates]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=updates
baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

#packages used/produced in the build but not released
[addons]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Addons
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=addons
baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/addons/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

#additional packages that may be useful
[extras]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Extras
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=extras
baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/extras/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

#additional packages that extend functionality of existing packages
[centosplus]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Plus
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=
$basearchrepo
=centosplus
baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/centosplus/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
enabled=1
gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5

Yum updates everything else. I don't see the problem reading yum and
yum.conf man pages. Any help appreciated!

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[CentOS] HTML Posts

2007-12-06 Thread Bob Taylor
Please don't post HTML messages. Firefox renders your messages in about
4 points. Quite unreadable.

Please, this is not meant to start a war.

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Re: [CentOS] Difficulty with 5.0 - 5.1 upgrade: sysreport vs. sos

2007-12-03 Thread Bob Taylor
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 01:14 -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote:
 I got file conflicts between the sysreport and sos packages on the
 file /usr/sbin/sysreport.  I unchecked sysreport in the package
 updater UI and the rest of the update is proceedng.

I also received the same error. Bug in pup? Shouldn't sysreport be
removed first then sos installed? Will try command line yum update -y.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Time Change

2007-11-01 Thread Bob Taylor
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 08:27 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:

[snip]

 While your there, pick me up a nice bottle of tequila!  ;-P

Actually, I live in San Felipe, B.C. Mexico. When I installed CentOS
recently, I didn't think about the Congress critters stupid change to
the standard/daylight scheme. Since Mexico follows the U.S., this
requires a major change in Mexico's law. Oh well...

Sorry about the tequila! :-)

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[CentOS] yum message

2007-11-01 Thread Bob Taylor
I am getting the following daily:

 etc/cron.daily/yum.cron:

 ** Message: sqlite cache needs updating, reading in metadata
 ** Message: sqlite cache needs updating, reading in metadata

I have run yum clean dbcache each time I see this. What am I missing?

Bob

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Re: [CentOS] yum message

2007-11-01 Thread Bob Taylor
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 17:48 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  I am getting the following daily:
  
   etc/cron.daily/yum.cron:
  
   ** Message: sqlite cache needs updating, reading in metadata
   ** Message: sqlite cache needs updating, reading in metadata
  
  I have run yum clean dbcache each time I see this. What am I missing?
 
 Where are you 'getting' this ? And what is the problem ? I think its ok 
 to expect yum to update the sqlite cache each night.

From /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron via mail to root. The problem is I don't
think I should be getting this on CentOS 5.0. Updated automatically via
yum.

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[CentOS] Need a package

2007-10-31 Thread Bob Taylor
I have rpms for xemacs 21.5.27-8.fc8. I *think* they will work on Centos
5? If not I can get the sources. However, at this point, I have one of
those dependency hell problem. I need, for now, libtinfo. Does anyone
now what package it is in?

Thanks,

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[CentOS] Time Change

2007-10-31 Thread Bob Taylor
Has anyone noticed the time change from Daylight to Standard Sunday? Is
there a fix in the works?

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Re: [CentOS] Time Change

2007-10-31 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 17:30 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Bob Taylor wrote:
  Has anyone noticed the time change from Daylight to Standard Sunday? Is
  there a fix in the works?
 
 Yes, time did change. And just at the right moment - when DST ended.
 
 Maybe you should tell us in which time zone you are and which error you
 are seeing.

Woops! I seem to have forgotten the most important part. I'm in Pacific
time. Pacific time is still PDT my computer changed last Sunday.
Just checked my time zone. Tijuana! No wonder. Sorry about that. Yuck!

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Re: [CentOS] Need a package

2007-10-31 Thread Bob Taylor
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:33 -0400, Andy Harrison wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 
 
 On 10/31/07, Bob Taylor  wrote:
  I have rpms for xemacs 21.5.27-8.fc8. I *think* they will work on Centos
  5? If not I can get the sources. However, at this point, I have one of
  those dependency hell problem. I need, for now, libtinfo. Does anyone
  now what package it is in?
 
 
 Looks like ncurses...
 
 http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/4608830/com/libtinfo-5.6-alt2.i586.rpm.html

Thanks Andy!

Sure would like *.src.rpm to return something like...foo requires
libtinfo from ncurses.xxx=yyy etc.

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[CentOS] A little help with yum.d repo files

2007-10-13 Thread Bob Taylor
I'm new to CentOS. I was running Fedora core 3 before I installed CentOS
5.0.

I'm looking at the files in CentOS /etc/yum.d and the same files in
Fedora 3. I'm a little confused as I have never looked at yum before. I
now have a full time connection so now I can use yum.

I have been looking for supported rpms for XEmacs and Gnucash.

What repos do I need to add to obtain these two apps with their
dependencies and at least one example for CentOS?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [CentOS] A little help with yum.d repo files

2007-10-13 Thread Bob Taylor
On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 10:47 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On 10/13/07, Bob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm new to CentOS. I was running Fedora core 3 before I installed CentOS
  5.0.
 
  I'm looking at the files in CentOS /etc/yum.d and the same files in
  Fedora 3. I'm a little confused as I have never looked at yum before. I
  now have a full time connection so now I can use yum.

[snip]

 Read the wiki article:
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories
 
[snip]

 Akemi

Thanks Akemi I'll have a look.

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