Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?
On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you post to this list. This coming from someone who frequently tells people to SHUT UP and go away and use something else. I guess that's far more professional than others trying to open up communications between a projects members and the developers. This is the exact reason I quit helping out on the wiki, and now after reading all the drama on this mailing list, I think it just might be time to unsubscribe from this one as well. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Duplicate Mails
On 03/21/2011 05:57 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Apologies if this caused any inconveniences. No apology necessary from you. Much appreciated for fixing it quickly, Ralph. If anyone is using Thunderbird, there's a handy add-on called Remove Duplicate Messages on Mozilla's add-on site. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/remove-duplicate-messages/ Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster
On 01/25/2011 03:04 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: I need to call you on this one. Windozie (implying some kind of decent user interface) and stability are not mutually exclusive, as your comment suggests. In the old days you may have had to choose, but that's long past. Windows 7 is very stable, as is Mac OS X. This is the type of false dichotomy that a certain US-based news network (rhymes with Blox Fews) uses to misinform a naive public. Please don't bring that kind of logic into tech discussions. I have to agree here as well. Too many times do I see people just blasting other operating systems for these reasons. I'd even go as far as argue that Windows XP is stable too, so long as it's managed, administered, and setup securely and correctly. I don't notice any more crashes on the Ubuntu systems I have set up, compared to those of CentOS/RHEL, or to even Windows XP and 7 systems. And I administer all of the above in the same network. People mix these perceptions up all to frequently, or personally because I simply believe they like to bash other operating systems that they don't like or want to use. Just my 0.02 cents. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster
On 01/25/2011 03:49 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: So what happens when one does the monthly tuesday patches for windoze and your security door controller running on SQLserver (micro$oft) fails. Back out all the patches - inform micro$oft - wait - wait some more - never get a response - call the security software vendor - aware of patch problem - no fix planned - buy the newest version. All this on a stable windoze XP prof. Dell box. that's all that matters. Windows aside, my point was that I see it far to often from people that just because something is pretty or has the windozie feel, they automatically dismiss it as a non-stable product. Take Ubuntu for example, it has the prettiness and all the GUI tools, which is what attracts desktop users, but then you have those that say it's not stable and is too cutting edge because of that reason. I personally don't find it to be the case, but that's my experience with working with it. Every OS has an application, it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Running CentOS for normal user desktops didn't yield good results for me, where Ubuntu did and fit that purpose. Or running Windows XP as a server, where a Windows Server 2003/2008 instance should be. A lot of it is decision making for what is trying to be done. Too many are narrow minded about this kind of stuff, because they don't want to work with something different, or with what is out of their comfort zone. My point was to not fall into that mind frame of GUI is bad or bleeding edge and doesn't work, and therefor is automatic crap. That is certainly not the case. I've seen GUI tools be refused to be used simply because they are GUI tools, and to me that's not 2011 type thinking. Personally, I run CentOS on my laptop. I also like all the guifications, so I spend lots of time setting that GUI pretty feel up for myself. Since my employer runs a lot of RHEL/CentOS on servers, I want and like to have a system similar to use, but I also like my desktop eye candy too. But I also run Ubuntu, SuSE, and Windows. If systems are properly applied to the appropriate applications, and set up and managed correctly, then I don't have problems running many kinds of operating systems. I don't fall victim to the religion of one operating system, I use many kinds to get my job done that I'm paid to do. Again, just my 0.02 cents as I was backing Brian's comments about the divide between thinking nice user interface can't be said in the same sentence as a stable platform to use. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to unpack rar file?
On 01/13/2011 05:20 PM, ken wrote: I think I did this once a long time ago, but don't recall clearly How do I unpack a .rar file? yum install unrar (From RPMForge) unrar -e file.rar Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RAID help
On 12/14/2010 05:21 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Sorry, but I don't think you can install with that. 10 years ago, think it was, I was giving /, /usr and /var 4G. For most of the time since then, I went to 20G for /usr, then 40G. And I gave /opt 20G. Giving 1G for /var is *asking* for trouble - what happens when you have a hardware error, or an intrusion attempt, and the logs fill the partition? I usually go one step further and split /var and /var/log on separate partitions for the exact reason Mark mentions with logging. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!
On 12/08/2010 10:39 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Don't run software you don't trust. Keep the software you run up to date. Don't open files you don't trust. Agree here. We have very few issues at my company, because we stress the issue of thinking before you click, especially when it comes to desktop users. If you think about something before you just automatically do it, it often avoids a problem to begin with. This applies to any desktop user on any desktop OS. Think before you open something, think before you do something. If you're not sure who sent it, or you don't trust it, or you don't recognize where it's from, then don't open it or consult IT to check it out. The best and first security is and always will be the physical layer, after that, put some thought into, or teach desktop users to put thought into their actions before they or you actually do it. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] good shell script examples?
On 11/15/2010 01:47 PM, Kill Script wrote: I am looking for a beginner guide to shell scripting simple tasks on CentOS (e.g. ssh'ing into a server / router / switch, checking for certain things, then exiting and going to the next IP). Does anyone have any suggestions on where to look? (I'm relatively new to bash) The book Learning the bash Shell helped me out a lot. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781565923478 Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RM Help
On 10/26/2010 05:23 PM, Matt wrote:
Is there a way to tell rm -f to only remove a file if its owned by say mail?
Not sure you can directly use rm for that, but you could find the uid of
the user in /etc/passwd, then run find and -exec on it with rm.
To view them:
cat /etc/passwd | grep USER
find /path -uid 123 -exec ls -la {} \;
To delete them, then use -exec rm -rf {} \;
Be CAREFUL though!
Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] ls this bandwidth package availblale in Centos
On 09/30/2010 11:32 AM, adrian kok wrote: Hi ls the if top package availblale in Centos? http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/iftop/ Yes, it's available in the third-party RPMForge repo. http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Latest BackupPC release in CentOS testing repo
BackupPC released 3.2.0 as a stable version a few weeks ago. The most current release is 3.1.0 in the testing repository. Are there any plans that this will be updated to 3.2.0 in the repo some time down the road? Also, will the BackupPC package be moved out of testing and into extras ever? Or are there reasons behind this that are more complicated, making it not stable to be in extras? I've been running the 3.1.0 RPM for a long time with no issues. Just curious. Thanks! Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Latest BackupPC release in CentOS testing repo
Les Mikesell wrote: To complicate this question a bit more - there is also a 3.1.0 version in the epel repository and not much point of having a separate one in centos-testing (or extras) with the danger of conflicts or different configurations. Yeah, I saw it was there as well. Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] is it safe to resize root, on an LVM system, online?
Rudi Ahlers wrote: It's a console-only server, i.e. no X installed. So I'll have to setup a test server to see if I can do it without breaking abything There should be no issues doing it live. # lvextend -L+1G /dev/myvg/myvol # resize2fs /dev/myvg/myvol Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
sync wrote: Hello,guys: I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, which I will be trying. My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar systems? eGroupware and Horde are popular. I use Horde Webmail Edition which includes e-mail, calendar, shared tasks, etc. eGroupware is pretty nice as well. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: On a related note, since you're a horde user: my ISP that I have my domain hosted on offers roundcube, squirrelmail, and horde. What I don't like about squirrelmail is that it does *not* do the right thing on a reply: I have to manually put in who wrote the email I'm responding to. Does horde do it correctly? Sounds to me like a configuration issue somewhere. My installation of Squirrelmail fills in the reply to field with no problems. Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Configure Webcam in centos 5.4
Krishna Chandra Prajapati wrote: Hi list, I looking for a solution about how to configure webcam in centos 5.4 What are the webcam packages available in centos. The Logitech QuickCam Pro just plugs and plays too. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT?] recommendation for simple wiki S/W to run on centos 5.4?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: any testimonials for some simple wiki software to run on centos 5.4 on an intranet? all i'm after is something uncomplicated that (ideally) yum installs, and that others can start using to start sharing useful info, nothing more. thoughts? You can do comparisons here depending on what your needs are. There are lots of good ones out there, it's more on what you need it for and the features. http://www.wikimatrix.org/ I personally use Dokuwiki. http://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Recommended PCIe SATA/SAS Controller?
Tim Nelson wrote: Greetings all- I need to purchase a PCIe SATA or SAS controller(non-raid) for a Supermicro 2U system. It should be directly bootable. Any recommendations? The system will be running CentOS 5.4 as an LTSP system. Thanks! Look at the Promise non-raid cards. I just bought a normal PCI Promise SATA300 TX4 card that just works and boots fine. I'm sure they have an equivalent for PCIe. http://www.promise.com/ Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Recommended PCIe SATA/SAS Controller?
John R Pierce wrote: do those have SFF x4 SAS connectors? when I just looked at Supermicro's 2U chassis, thats what most of them used for their drive backplanes. the typical 2U today takes 12 3.5 drives or 24 2.5. dealing with that many discrete SATA cables would be a mess. I don't know. You'll have to look at the cards on their site to see what connections are supported. Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?
a arias wrote: Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. I think this is too vague of a opinion on virtualization use. I think it depends on what you're doing with it. VirtualBox is a nice piece of software for desktop/power user use, however, ESXi and ESX are geared more towards enterprise and business critical use. So, it kind of depends on what you're going to be doing with it. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] knockd rpm for CentOS-5.4
James B. Byrne wrote: Is there a recommended knockd package for CentOS-5.4 or do I just pull from the project's web site? I think RPMForge has this packaged if you're into installing a third-party repo. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?
Jake Shipton wrote: Hi, Personally, I'd recommend VMware Workstation. Always been good for me, however lately I have been trying out Virtualbox (PUEL) :-). They have an Open Source Edition also (Virtualbox), only it lacks USB Support. If you go on there website, you can see the 3 missing features. Tried KVM, but it didn't like my box not having AMD-V. I think the best way to determine what's best for you, would be to try them all, and see which you prefer :-) Agreed. Try them out and then determine what you like. My preference is VirtualBox for personal use, VMware Workstation for work use, and then all our enterprise work stuff runs on either VMware ESX for business critical installs, and ESXi for non-critical installs. There is a work around for USB support on Linux for VirtualBox, where VMware works a bit better with USB. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?
Bobby wrote: Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty sure I watched a USB CAM on XP (as a VM client) a while ago. Well, it's supported and works, however, you have to remount usbfs and chmod a file or two, and then it works in VirtualBox. So it's more of a bug I guess than unsupported. Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] monitoring a workstation
MOKRANI Rachid wrote: Any ideas about a good and simple free tool ? Have a look at Munin. http://munin.projects.linpro.no/ You can install it from the RPMForge repo. # yum install munin Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mysql Workbench
JohnS wrote: You can get directly from mysql.com for EL5. I don't believe you can. The only RPM they have is for fedora 11, that I can see. Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup server
Brian Mathis wrote: To put it into perspective, ask the manager how much it would cost the business if this data was unrecoverable? After that, if they still don't want to spend a few hundred $$s on the insurance, get it in writing that your manager understands the risk and print it out and post it on your office wall. I was just getting ready to say this. Ask how much it will cost them when they need to pull something from a backup, that they've accidentally deleted and need back. It really doesn't cost that much to build a small server. I built my own using a 3Ware drive cage and 4 SATA drives. I have 1TB of storage for my backup server. I think I only spent around $2,000 to build it. I'm starting to run out of space now, but we're looking at a cheaper iSCSI SAN to attach to this machine to expand on. At any rate, you really don't have to spend a lot of money to get something decent up and running. And even if you spend some, you need to explain to management that backups are extremely important. Once you get something in place then, it's important to actually test them and check on them that you're backing up. That's what led me to BackupPC in the first place. We used to use rsnapshot here, and there were quite a few customized hacked together things that we thought were running nightly, and they really weren't. So, when I started investigating, I realized that our backups here hadn't been taking place for over a month. Bad! So, I found BackuPC to replace rsnapshot, and have been happy since then for our online offsite backups. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup server
Les Mikesell wrote: Backuppc will at least send you an email when the backups have failed for 3 days in a row. Yeah, I have this configured. Although, to be honest since I've set it up, I've not had any failures yet, so I'll have to wait until I do, ha. Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup server
Sorin Srbu wrote: Hi all, I've built a new backup server for our linux-clients. Is Amanda the way to go for a backup-solution? It seems to be pretty powerful, if a bit finickety to set up initially. The way we currently do backups is to use rsync from the clients to two folders on an older server that rolls over every other week. This worked fine for a while, but the rsync is cumulative and the users generate a tremendous amount of data every day after having had a client upgrade with newer and hilariously fast computers for calculation. The previous *nix-admin set it up this way with rsync, meaning that we in the long run have data that is way obsolete and get increasingly difficult to maintain. As the backup solution must be next to free, ie free beer, Amanda looks suitable. What do you use for backing up data? You can check out BackupPC as well. That's what I use. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup server
Sorin Srbu wrote: Somewhat similar, thanks. I think however I need to get away from this sort of backups. They're just to space-consuming. Check out the user submitted HowTos on the Wiki. http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos#head-bab8e87dc82e722540e2d39de8408750004a8c4a Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backup server
Sorin Srbu wrote: Sound very interesting indeed! I don't think the performance will be a problem, the server's a calculation machine that has now been scrapped running a dual-x...@2,something GHz and some 4GB RAM IIRC. Do you think the software-raid5 array used, would be a problem in this case? I've never had any problems with software raid5 in linux before, but you never know... The reason I really like BackupPC is the compression you can get. It really helps me out since I have a smaller dedicated backup server. For my instance, since I have a dedicated server, I'd trade performance for the space compression saves me. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files
lostson wrote: For one stop using rpmforge this repo does nothing but trash a system. Use the rpmfusion repo then do a I can't say that I've ever had a single system every trashed by using RPMForge. This is why the yum-priorities package exists for any repo you want to use, so you don't overwrite system RPMs. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Vmware server 1.x
Les Mikesell wrote: If you mean vmware 1.x, I have a few of them - or did, the Centos servers may all be updated to 5.4 now.. Starting over, I'd probably run ESXi on the hardware and Centos as one or more of the guests, though. Agreed. That's exactly what I started to do too. You get a lot better performance out of ESXi than VMware Server on CentOS, or whatever Linux flavor. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?
Boris Epstein wrote: This is not directly related to CentOS but still: we are trying to set up some storage servers to run under Linux - most likely CentOS. The storage volume would be in the range specified: 8-15 TB. Any recommendations as far as hardware? Why not just get a SAN appliance, and then attach it to your CentOS server with iSCSI. My company is getting ready to do the same. We have the hardware in place, just haven't had time to hook it all up and spin the thing up. We purchased an IBM SAN, and then we'll attach it to an older xSeries 235 server running CentOS. Or are you looking for some cheaper solutions? Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?
Joseph L. Casale wrote: recommendations as far as hardware? Giving we have no clue what it is used for no:) Seriously, it makes all the difference what this is backing, vm's exported over nfs/iSCSI, samba, etc... Very good point there. If you're looking for something like an all-in-one kind of thing. I built a server here with a 3Ware drive cage in it. We use it for our backup server. However, I've not kept up to date with what 3Ware offers now, so I'm not sure about space upwards to 15TB. Check them out though. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?
Boris Epstein wrote: Roughly how much space does the appliance provide? And how much did it cost? This one was only configured with 2TB. It and the drives were like 4 grand or something. Of course IBM stuff is expensive, and you can get all sorts of size configurations. I'm currently starting to research for a cheaper SAN to attach to my backup server because I'm running out of room, but haven't gotten too far in the research. For this purpose, I won't need the speeds of a high performance one. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Signing In Other than Root
Susan Day wrote: Hi; How do I make it so that it's impossible to SSH into the server directly as root? That is, make it necessary to SSH in as an ordinary user and then su to root? TIA, Suzie # vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config Uncomment the following line: #PermitRootLogin yes PermitRootLogin no # service sshd restart Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS-docs] TipsAndTricks/ApacheVhostDir changes for virtual host source files
Ed Heron wrote: I see someone has noticed my lack of suggestions or recommendations for placement of virtual host source files... Since there are many places to put virtual host source files, I had intentionally avoided the discussion due to the complexities and to keep the document restricted to a single topic. I had planned to create a separate document devoted to the discussion. Specifically, there are a couple of SELinux related issues to work out with a couple of them. I would start a discussion of the various places to put virtual host source files and the issues associated with them. Where should such a discussion take place? In one of the forums or on this list? However, I'm not sure what is meant by The following section is the approach advocated by its initial author, EdHeron. It is not clear that varying from the approach above is warranted, and by the version from him, does not explain the needed SElinux changes. It appears to suggest my disclaimer, Another method, for those of us that might have a tendency to 'over engineer', is creating a new directory, vhost.d for example, and putting an include where the configuration, as distributed, has the virtual host example. This retains the position of the virtual host definitions in the Apache configuration, isn't enough to discourage most system administrators from using it or explain my reasons and give a reader a hint that there are other ways, even, from the three discussed? The additional warning against the vhost.d/ section seems to excessively disparage my contribution and discourage other options. Certainly, it could be considered impolite to expand and significantly modify the content of a document when the author is available and willing to make changes. As well, I seek to improve my documentation technique and by-passing me deprives me of the opportunity. I'd like to know the process that culminated in the changes to my document. Are there a large number of people reading the document, not understanding it but making non standard changes to their systems, and requesting support? For what it's worth, Ed, I use the vhost.d container method as well. It's what I was taught and shown how to do. My IT manager has been doing so for years, and never had issues or troubles. Don't be discouraged, although it's easy to do in here anymore. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS] VirtualBox and CentOS
Lars Hecking wrote: I've tested it and it works! Presumably, it might have worked in some of my previous attempts, but I only now figured out that I need to manually attach the device via device menu or USB icon. Not exactly plug and play, but workable. The mount command itself is sufficient here, no need to stop vboxdrv (or vboxnet, which doesn't exist), or chmod g+rw /dev/vboxdrv. Oh, ok, cool. Yeah, I didn't try it without restarting vboxdrv so that's nice to know too! Thanks, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VirtualBox and CentOS
Lars Hecking wrote: I recently doownloaded and installed the latest RHEL5 rpm from the VirtualBox web site. While it generally works very well, I have been unable to get USB access to work on the guest. This seems to be a very common problem. Many references to it turn up in a web search, but I have not found a solution that works on CentOS 5. I got no response on the vbox-users mailing list either. Can anyone here help? Among the things I tried were various /sys and /proc/bus/usb related fstab and rc.sysinit changes. Drew a total blank on this one ... I have had the same problem. The only thing that I've found to work is this: Get your vboxusers group ID # cat /etc/group | vboxusers Remount the USBFS with your vboxusers GID # mount -t usbfs -o remount,devgid=GID,devmode=664 /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb Change the permissions on /dev/vboxdrv # chmod g+rw /dev/vboxdrv Restart the vboxdrv service # service vboxdrv restart Now when you boot your VM up the USB devices aren't greyed out any longer. I suppose you could script this if you wanted, add the usbfs mount to /etc/fstab and have the chmod go in a startup script or something. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VirtualBox and CentOS
Jim Perrin wrote: I would imaging it's rather similar to this - http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7t=20097 Gah, lowsy spel chekc not pikcing up waht I mean. s/imaging/imagine/ Ridiculous, I know...a computer should know what you're thinking and how to spell it. :) I tried everything in that post as well, and nothing worked for me. Finally I found the process I laid out and it worked. The link to it is here which is an old ticket: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/705 Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VirtualBox and CentOS
Lars Hecking wrote: This is the bit that won't work. The mount options seem to have no effect: dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 8 12:08 001 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 8 12:08 002 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 8 12:08 003 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 8 12:08 004 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Dec 8 12:08 005 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 8 16:47 devices Not to doubt you, but you made sure to put your group id in devgid=some_number? ... and this one resets the permissions on /dev/vboxdrv to 600. Hmmm, the permissions stay for me. I too struggled to get USB to work, it seems to be pretty lacking with Linux support in VirtualBox, which is a big downfall. Although, I had a lot of issues with permissions with VMware Server as well when I ran it. I guess pick your poison. This process works for me though, so I'm not sure what else to suggest to help you out. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMware Server 2.0.1 On CentOS 5
gene.po...@macys.com wrote: It's my understanding that CentOS is a carbon copy of Red Hat - with the exception of the art work. Assuming that this is true, the support matrix for VMware Server 2.0.1 states Red Hat 5.1. I cannot seem to locate a CentOS 5.1 x86-64 copy. I can get a copy of 5.3 and 5.4. If I take this route, what should I expect running VMware 2.0.1? My VMware Server 2.0.1 instances all still seem to run normal. I've been running them on 5.3 for quite some time, and this week on 5.4 with no issues. I wouldn't expect any problems. I'm running x86 versions of everything. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMware Server 2.0.1 On CentOS 5
Brian Mathis wrote: I am running VMware Server 2.0.1 on CentOS 5.2 and 5.3 with no problems. Search this mailing list for info on 5.4, as I think there was a small issue that needed to be worked around. I believe this was the issue: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/229957 Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMware Server 2.0.1 On CentOS 5
Les Mikesell wrote: That's actually pretty strange because the glibc update in 5.4 will break VMware Server 2.0.1. Have you rebooted or restarted vmware since the update? if you haven't, don't until you look up the fix... Yeah, I've rebooted my instances. My one instance is my laptop which gets restarted twice a day actually. I've not had any issues at all. Everything has been running great. I'm running this RPM from VMware: VMware-server-2.0.1-156745 So, I'm not sure. Is it something related to x86_64 systems only then? All mine are x86, and I see a lot of references to x86_64 here. Just a thought. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMware Server 2.0.1 On CentOS 5
Les Mikesell wrote: No, I have it on an x86 box and had to use the workaround here: http://communities.vmware.com/message/1364852 /lib/libc-2.5.so is actually still available after the upgrade so you don't have to copy it from another system - it just isn't the target of the libc.so.6 symlink anymore. Someone reported different behavior on core duo's vs. xeons which is probably what you are seeing, but eventually both crashed. Ok, thanks! I'll keep my eye out. These machines aren't business critical, but I'll definitely keep a watch out. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: pager pay
Alan McKay wrote: Anyone else want to share theirs? I don't get on call, but my company pays my text messaging plan on my cell phone each month, since it's used as my pager. It's about $10 a month. Our policy for call outs are as follows: If I have to come into the office, I get a minimum call out time of 2 hours, regardless if I'm here for 15 minutes or 2 hours. If that time falls on a Friday (I work normal Monday to Thursday 10 hour days), anything on Friday until midnight is time and a half pay. If the call out time is past 11:59 p.m. on Friday, until 6:00 a.m. Monday morning, then I get double time pay. There's some comp time rules in there too, but I rarely use it. I have OpenVPN access from home or anywhere else. If I can fix the problem from home without having to come in, I don't get the call out minimum time of 2 hours. I only get paid the OT of the time I worked on the problem. I same rules apply for pay with the time and a half and double time scheme as above. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Build a Firewall (Can I learn to do this...)
ML wrote: I used to work with PIX 525's so I have knowledge, I just dont quite know how to do this with CentOS and such. Can anyone offer advice? Nothing against CentOS, but if this is going to be a dedicated firewall, have you thought of using an appliance type OS/application? I've heard a lot of good things about IPCop. Here at my place of employment we run Vyatta. They have a community edition. Just a thought. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user
Florin Andrei wrote: Well, it's the group bias. I keep an eye on a Kawasaki forum, and they have a knack for doing a lot of Suzuki bashing. I'm, like, WTF, they're all awesome sportbikes! :-) Same here. In the end, Linux is the same, just different flavors for different tastes. Agreed. Unfortunately, open source communities never seem to think that way. The point being, open source/Linux serves to all get to the same goal, but unfortunately, projects get a bad name for bashing other projects. The vi vs. emacs, Gnome vs. KDE, etc. rants. I was at Ohio Linux Fest this past weekend where Shawn Powers, a Linux Journal editor, opened with a keynote speech. Basically, his speech hit on that topic somewhat. I understand and appreciate passion, but I think it gets in the way sometimes when you start bashing other open source projects that are trying to reach the same goal. The point of Linux and open source is choice, and I truly don't respect the zealots that do a lot of bashing. I think it's counter-productive and exactly why Linux communities get a bad name sometimes. I understand lists are specific, but questions like this should be about what people have had good and bad experiences with things. CentOS works good here for one persons needs, but may not fit another. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user
Florin Andrei wrote: I'm a big CentOS fan, I joined even the Facebook group (lol), but its place is on the server or, perhaps, on a workstation for a power user (or for things like running scientific apps on the desktop). If you're a PhD running quantum theory equations with Mathematica on your Xeon multicore workstation, I can very well see why you would prefer CentOS, or even Red Hat Enterprise proper. +1 I have to agree here as well. I used to recommend and help set up CentOS on user desktops, but it became more of a burden than good thing. I no longer do so, because Ubuntu is so much more user-friendly. In my experience, Ubuntu is much more out-of-box useful for a standard user desktop or laptop. There's no fussing around with hardware configurations, or extra drivers (in most cases), and things just seem to work. All the gadgets, gizmos, and eye-candy items are already there, things I enjoy, but have some setup time involved in with using CentOS. For instance, on my laptop, CentOS doesn't recognize my external display and it doesn't matter what I've tried, I can't get it to work. On Ubuntu, though, it just works. I've had other experiences like having to really try hard to get wireless working. Most of my issues were hardware issues, but I know CentOS is improving on that. I think like others have mentioned. It's a combination of what the user is going to do with it, versus, what you are most comfortable with, versus how much twiddling the user is going to want to do. Ubuntu is much much easier for the user to configure himself/herself. Although it doesn't stop me from using CentOS on my laptop and desktops, I don't recommend it to people I know now because of the following reasons. I think it's all personal experience and what the system is going to be doing. It's not a simple question. These are just my experiences. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Christoph Maser wrote: So we should make a proper nagios documentation on the centos-wiki because the official nagios docs suck? No, but I don't see that it's a problem that it's on the CentOS wiki. There are lots of guides on the wiki that aren't exactly CentOS specific, so does that mean we should scrap those as well? What's the point of an OS, especially a server OS, that you can't extend on with other open source applications? The CentOS wiki serves as a wonderful place to store things that allow CentOS users and admins to come to one location and have resources and tools at their disposal, without having to go digging around the web finding what they need. That's the entire point of the wiki, so share, and so this CentOS specific topic that comes up all the time, I have a hard time with. It's already been suggested to split the doc out into pieces. Everyone seemed to agree that was fine. If that's what everyone wants to do, then go for it, make the changes, and let this end. Arguing back and forth about this is silly though. Usually people are complaining that docs are lacking in detail, here people are complaining they are too detailed. I'm confused... :| Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Please remove my wiki account
Wiki Admins, I will no longer be participating in the CentOS wiki. I've removed my name from any of the pages that were submitted by me, and welcome others to do so with the pages as they wish. I'd like to be removed from the EditGroup, as well as have my account deleted. Username: MaxHetrick Unfortunately, attitudes about what the wiki should be and currently are, and my own attitude about it, aren't aligned. The CentOS wiki should be a welcomed place for user contributed documentation, but as time goes on it seems as though that's not what many key people envision or want. Attitudes of many CentOS persons have been leading to people leaving the community as of late. I'm certainly a peon, but that's not the point. The point is about attitudes. If attitudes don't start to change as a whole, no one will want to help out. CentOS needs to clearly lay out more strict rules and guidelines for submissions in the future if they want more controlled content. I know for a fact there are many posts that aren't CentOS specific. Another guide I wrote for BackupPC is one such post. If these types of content aren't to be submitted by other contributors in the future, I suggest laying out some better steps to follow so people like myself know whether they can be useful to donate items or not. I hope attitudes in the future start to change for the better. Thanks, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Marcus Moeller wrote: So I am a bit disappointed (but can understand) ppl. like Max who already contributed high quality docs in the past are re-signing from contributing to the wiki (just because one or two other guys have a different pov). I have also suggested that docs like the CentOS specific owlriver rpm howtos (http://www.owlriver.com/tips/non-root/) could as well resist on the CentOS wiki. But it's not my decision. The problem is to me, and the reason I decided I don't want to contribute any longer, is the fact that you have CentOS team members not agreeing on a format for content. You have one or two saying they want it this way, and you have some saying it should be this way. You have one team member stating they believe writers should go upstream for all documentation purposes, and then another saying no. The problem with that is the fact that it's not realistic to take that approach, because not all projects are going to be willing to fix their documentation upstream. That's the reason why I write things that I write. To make it easier on admins and users to get the application going, and then if they want to further learn, tackle more complex documentation. That's the exact reason the Nagios guide exists in the first place. When I started working with it, I had trouble learning it. I decided to make that experience better for others and write a howto. To go off-topic, as a side job, I write publications with this exact approach and get paid for it. My articles there are exactly that, called TechTips. I take a piece of software, or a topic, and write a technical tip meant to get the reader/user up and running. Part of my success there has been because I take a how-to approach to the guides, which the readers love. From there, they can expand their horizons with documentation all they want for more complex issues. Obviously there is a need for such articles, because they pay me and tell me as such. :) They're in the business of documentation and articles, so they should know. Most people always want a more simple way of understanding a concept, rather than diving into code documentation, or this case, Nagios' cryptic and overwhelming docs. To continue about the wiki, the problem for contributors like myself then becomes, well what do I do, or how should I write for them. Although I often times enjoy the democracy of opinions on the docs list, it becomes confusing for a contributor when you have team members disagreeing in public forum. One time a topic of post is ok'd to be put on, the next time then it's criticized and not ok. There is no consistency for authors and contributors, and I really believe that needs worked out within. What really needs to occur is that the team members really need to agree on, and publish on the site, some standards that ALL the team members can agree on. At that level, all of these issues could be ironed out, to hopefully create a set of standards of acceptable content. Then these types of conversations and arguments won't need to occur, or in theory shouldn't need to occur. Perhaps I'm dreaming here to think that everyone on the team can do so, but I think something like that needs to happen one way or the other, because eventually, no one is going to want to post on the wiki for these reasons. Perhaps I'm out of line here, and perhaps I'm going on and on in a diatribe, but this is my opinion on the matter, and my further detailed reasons for not wanting the headache of contributing any longer. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
R P Herrold wrote: if you are referring to me, your projection into what I wrote has mislead you. Well, I was kind of referring to what you said here: If people want to write content, they NEED TO GO TO FEDORA, or the upstream, and get patches accepted, so the changes flow back down in our future. Go work at the trailhead, not in an upstream project's past (here Nagios). Unless I misinterpreted, you're basically saying that to a writer they need to go work at the project they are documenting, not CentOS. But I disagree and feel you are wrong. The power of the CentOS wiki should be that it's the one-stop shop for admins searching for a powerful rock solid OS that has CentOS-specific documentation, PLUS one that has all these extra types of applications listed with documentation as well. A server admin or user gets the best of both worlds, and as already stated, has one place to look for resources, instead of following links to various pieces all over the Internet. To me, the point of a wiki is to share. I understand your view is different, our views are different. Please, by all means, explain if that is not what you meant. That's what I took it as. For the rest of it, I pretty much already explained myself, and Scott hits the nail on the head. You, being a team member, need to sit down with the other team members and figure out what you want on the wiki, create guidelines, and post them for others to follow. Your vision of what the wiki should be is different than mine, fine, you're obviously higher on the totem pole than I, so I'll just leave and take my docs with me. It's that attitude that I don't understand, and why others don't want to deal with it. The CentOS team and wiki needs to find some consistency. Then, contributors can have something to look at to decide if their content fits. This would fix the issue of causing these wars and angering others. You would have the standards in place, and guidelines outlining what can and will get posted. To be honest, I'm plenty busy in life, I don't need to worry about whether one of my articles or guides is going to tick off a CentOS team member, or please another. This is exactly why folks are leaving the project though, and it's a problem that should be resolved before you have no one left wanting to work on the wiki. With that said, I really have no further comments on the this topic. I'll quit before I wear out my welcome. I've said my peace, explained why I won't be helping further, and truly hope you guys/gals figure out something before the no one wants to work on the wiki. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Christoph Maser wrote: Btw. i really consider the current nagios article on the wiki bad. Its totally outdated and covers way to much info how to configure nagios itself. In my opinion this should be simply replaced by links to the official documentation since it is out of place and incomplete. The point of the article was exactly that. I'll have to disagree here, since the point of the guide is how to install and configure Nagios for basic use. I personally don't care if you edit it to your likes, but many people find it useful as it is, because Nagios can be quite complicated to use. Feel free to edit the article, however, if you remove too much, please delete my name from the top of the article, though. I know the article is a bit out of date, but the basic principals of Nagios still function the same. I've not had time the last year to go through and re-write it to newer versions of Nagios. Probably all of my docs could use touch-ups, but some personal issues this past year has prevented me from doing so. Again, feel free to change, add, delete irrelevant parts, etc. That's the point of the wiki, for others to add and change things. :) Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Mathew S. McCarrell wrote: It might be simpler to just have a tutorial that uses the package that is available from rpmforge. I have already written such a tutorial and it receives several hundred hits each month. Its also the second result in Google if you search for install nagios centos. This article does use the RPMForge installation packages. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Karanbir Singh wrote: How about splitting it up into 'Install Guide' and a 'Recommended first steps'. Having used Nagios ( or does Nagios use us ? ) I know there are a million different ways to set things up. And only a few people really need to get down and understand eveyrthing about every option. so how about just creating a 'recommended start point' and have a few config snippets. That would then open up for a third page option, which can be focused around 'best practises' that might be CentOS specific. I think Nagios uses us. Agreed. I've been using Nagios for a long time, and I still don't have all the options down, as I don't need to use them all. When I need something, I go to the docs and look up more specific things. In my experience with working with Nagios, the problem that always came up was that people didn't know where to even start because there were too many options, and they were overwhelmed. Thus the reason I wrote the guide in the first place, to serve as a stepping stone to get it up and running with some basic checks, then go digging in the docs. I feel it's important to have that information on the wiki, even though it's not CentOS specific. It's asked for a lot and used. Splitting it up would make sense. +1 Sounds good to me. Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Martin Boel, Silverbullet wrote: Hi I would like to contribute to the wiki.centos.org: username: boel subject: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2 location: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Nagios content: A security feature of centos 5.2 SELinux prevents the access from the apache httpd server to the needed /var/nagios files. The error manifests itself in the /var/log/messages as SELinux is preventing the tac.cgi from using potentially mislabeled files ./status.dat (var_t). A workaround is to execute the command: chcon -R httpd_sys_content_t /var/nagios When I wrote the Nagios guide, it was easier and recommended to just turn SELinux off before going about installing and using Nagios. Seems that the Nagios doc site has some information now in regards to SELinux, but I never went back to visit that topic. http://wiki.nagios.org/index.php/Selinux Perhaps these can be incorporated into the guide if they are verified to work? Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS] Alternative to logwatch
Developer wrote: Hello, I am searching an alternative to logwatch. After too much time spent trying to configure it. I have apache log's in different files and directories, for some reason I can not put logwatch to work. Anyone know and alternative? Check out swatch from the RPMForge repo. swatch.noarch : Tool for actively monitoring log files. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dangerous Software Raid instructions on Wiki
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: 1) The Title of the article says How to Setup a Software RAID on CentOS 5 2) My successor is a real HK bred and born person so his command of the English language is like most such persons; that is to say, very poor. 3) Regarding not letting him within ten feet of a production server, well, that is not my business anymore. When I was there, I was the lone ranger and so is my replacement. I guess it serves my previous boss right who felt he could just pick anybody of the street to replace because I only have high school education. Too bad he had to wait for over six months to get what he has now. 4) Max, I actually agree with you but hey, the world is not perfect. There will be clueless people given jobs they are not really suitable for but we cannot just tell them to get lost can we now? Posted too to centos-docs for any further discussion. Someone added a very bright disclaimer, so all should be good in the future. I do agree with others that using /dev/sdX would probably be wise as well in documentation, but that doesn't fix the true root of the problem. People really should watch cutting and pasting, or typing, commands on a Linux root without understanding what it is that the commands are doing. Is it possible you could help him with some basic Linux lessons then, and/or point him to some beginner material so this doesn't happen again. I just had a problem with blaming the author of a document, (I didn't even write it) when the user did not read the document. If he doesn't speak or read English well, then that doesn't help that, nor does adding warnings help either if he can't read English well. I'm not certain what languages the page has been translated to, but perhaps look into that for him as well. Or can you translate the page? Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dangerous Software Raid instructions on Wiki
Max Hetrick wrote: Someone added a very bright disclaimer, so all should be good in the future. I do agree with others that using /dev/sdX would probably be wise as well in documentation, but that doesn't fix the true root of the problem. People really should watch cutting and pasting, or typing, commands on a Linux root without understanding what it is that the commands are doing. Is it possible you could help him with some basic Linux lessons then, and/or point him to some beginner material so this doesn't happen again. I just had a problem with blaming the author of a document, (I didn't even write it) when the user did not read the document. If he doesn't speak or read English well, then that doesn't help that, nor does adding warnings help either if he can't read English well. I'm not certain what languages the page has been translated to, but perhaps look into that for him as well. Or can you translate the page? Sorry for posting that to the main list. I hit reply and didn't see that the reply to was still set for the main list. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum update
madunix wrote: Can any one clarify this, is auto updating at all production servers recommended or not? need to know your opinion, how do you manage the update? I guess that depends on your situation. For me, if it's a package that I know isn't going to mess with users being logged on, or something of the like, then I don't see it as a problem. But if it's a package update like samba, or httpd, or something similar, you might want to hold off on auto updates until you can do them manually and restart any services that are needed with it. I know this doesn't answer your question directly, but I think it's dependent on the packages being updated. Personally I like to restart immediately any services associated with the updates, then you know any and all files that are changed with the update are applied. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dangerous Software Raid instructions on Wiki
Ray Van Dolson wrote: Dumb people will find ways to be dumb no matter how much you dumb things down... :) You can't teach or bottle common sense... ;) Even with no warnings on the document, the first sentence states this is for install time. Anyone that has ever installed an OS should know that when you install an OS during install time, it's going to overwrite data on the drives. If they don't know that part, then they have no business installing anything anywhere, ever. :) Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dangerous Software Raid instructions on Wiki
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5 has: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64 Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any warnings or a clear explanation for those who need a clueby4 with regards to file systems please either remove the instructions or add a very clear warning that damage to file systems that is not recoverable will result if run on the wrong disk(s). My successor at my previous job has gleefully followed those instructions (he seriously needs a clueby4 which is why he bothers to actually read HowTos) and on a production box (who wants pop-corn and soda? Sorry, the er support conversation will not be on irc) and I think this seriously highlights the need for HowTo writers to seriously consider their audience as dumb monkeys that just follow whatever you tell them to do without thinking if you do not list out things they first have to think about or questions they first need to answer. The document's first sentence clearly states the purpose of the document: This article addresses the setting up of a software (mdraid) RAID1 at install time on systems without a true hardware RAID* controller. The part being important here is install time. So I think it's pretty clear. Is it the document writer's fault that other didn't read this part? I don't think so. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dangerous Software Raid instructions on Wiki
Brian Mathis wrote: This thread seriously highlights the sort of attitudes that are causing major issues in IT in general, and have been for years. Whenever someone makes a mistake, we point fingers and call them stupid. We haughtily proclaim that only people who know what they are doing should have a job -- as if we had never been short on time, ventured into an area outside our expertise, or been a beginner. The fact is that we all have a million things to do and only a fixed amount of time. It's simply not possible for anyone to be a complete expert in everything at all times. We've all been in a position where something needs to be done immediately and you don't know everything about the product/system. I would wager that is more common than the situation where you know everything about everything before performing any actions. Additionally, IT often has the unique benefit that users can quickly contribute to a feedback loop that informs you directly with what they are having trouble with. Other industries, such as advertising, marketing, sales, etc... would *kill* to have that sort of feedback. And what do we do with it? In this case, someone has effectively filed a bug on the documentation, and all we can do is spew about how stupid the person is. It doesn't matter if the information is there /somewhere/; the bug is that it's not clear, or it's presented in a confusing way, or it is potentially dangerous and that danger can be easily mitigated (Jason Pyeron has got the right idea). Hmmm, not sure I agree with you here. Where I work, and in most places I've seen, if someone isn't competent enough on the Linux command line, he/she doesn't get close to a production system until he/she is taught or learned enough to be trusted. A company just doesn't turn someone free on Linux servers with root access if he/she doesn't know what they are doing. That is just plain stupidity. Your argument does apply, however, to this thread, the original poster suggested that the author of the article was wrong, and should be more clear about his commands. When in fact, the very first sentence of the article stated it was for *install time* which to me is pretty clear and concise. If you have employees working for you and they don't know or understand enough to know that when you install an OS, it's going to wipe the drives, then I'd be doing one of two things. 1) teaching my employees, or 2) not allowing them access to a production system of all things. Yes, education is important, very important. But the issue with this thread wasn't about that. It was about someone stating that the author of an article was wrong or not clear enough on instructions, when in my opinion, the author was extremely clear with the very first sentence of the guide. If I don't know something about a system or piece of software, I set up a test server at work and play with it. I certainly don't play with it on a production environment, mis-read or not read at all the guide I'm working with, and then go back and try to blame the author. Instead of taking the lazy approach of dismissing someone as stupid, prove that your haughtiness is justified by engaging on how to fix the problem. You've been presented with an opportunity to make something better than it was before. Take it. Aside from some sarcasm, no one was being arrogant or rude in their responses. What problem? The problem that someone didn't clearly read through the how to before they started typing commands? How is that anyone's fault here on the list or on the wiki? It's no one's fault except the person typing things they clearly haven't thought about. I think everyone's comments are spot on. You don't let people who aren't educated onto an installation with root access. If that's how you run your shops, then so be it, but that's not normal in my experience. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dangerous Software Raid instructions on Wiki
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5 has: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64 Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any warnings or a clear explanation for those who need a clueby4 with regards to file systems please either remove the instructions or add a very clear warning that damage to file systems that is not recoverable will result if run on the wrong disk(s). My successor at my previous job has gleefully followed those instructions (he seriously needs a clueby4 which is why he bothers to actually read HowTos) and on a production box (who wants pop-corn and soda? Sorry, the er support conversation will not be on irc) and I think this seriously highlights the need for HowTo writers to seriously consider their audience as dumb monkeys that just follow whatever you tell them to do without thinking if you do not list out things they first have to think about or questions they first need to answer. Just to make it even clearer and thwart any further damages, I edited the page to include: This article addresses the setting up of a software (mdraid) RAID1 at install time on systems without a true hardware RAID* controller. The following dd commands will destroy all information on the disks. If you have data on the drives that you need access to, please backup the drives. If anyone destroys any other production systems, it's their own fault if they can't read the guide in the first paragraph and understand. Now, let this thread die on this list, or take it over to the docs list to continue. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure
Marko Vojinovic wrote: Why don't you go with the SL or even pay RH, if you are that concerned about hacking attempts? It seems clear that CentOS is not a good distro for you if you are not satisfied with its update schedule. I believe it is better to make a different choice of distro, than to ask for substantial changes in the current one, especially if other people should do that extra work for you. And please don't tell me that SL has other flaws. If security is your first and most important concern, the best thing is to buy RH, it is definitely worth it. If you cannot invest money, go with SL, they have faster updates. If things break, well, at least you didn't get hacked. You should evaluate what is best for your situation and go with it, not ask CentOS to be both rock-solid and fast with updates at the same time. First off, after reading this thread, or should I say book, entirely, like a few others have said, I thank the CentOS developers greatly for all that they do. They spend an incredible amount of time keeping this project going, and I think they do a great job at it, considering it costs nothing to us as users. What we do at my employer is exactly that. We pay for RH support and updates on business critical servers, and servers that are facing the outside world. We get our updates quickly, and have support available should we need it on those machines that we feel are critical in this regard to security and support. CentOS fits into our organization by utilizing it for all non-critical deployments, PCs/workstations where they can be used, along with terminals and backup servers inside the network. A lot of our CentOS installations are actually virtualized too. It works out perfectly for us this way. If you absolutely need updates and your main concern is security, buy some RH support on all machines that you're worried about. Then utilize CentOS on the inside where it's probably not so critical that a patch isn't applied for a few weeks. This philosophy has served up very well over the years, and we've never had any issues in this regard. CentOS saves our non-profit organization a lot of money every year by applying this configuration, and we get the feel good fuzzy feeling that we have outside machines patched immediately. While I think there probably are or have been some communications issues with CentOS, I don't think it warrants beating up the developers over it. I cannot begin to understand the build process, since I'm not a developer, but I think people need to cut some slack to those that offer you a product free of charge. Personally my company chooses and sticks with CentOS because it has been rock-solid, and is always 100% compatible with upstream, which is important to us. I'm a very un-important CentOS user, but this is how my company runs things, and how we feel, and perhaps you should consider this as well. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vpn
chloe K wrote: Where remote and local address and subnet I can put for vpn configuration in linux box? A little more information would probably be best before anyone can help you. Do you already have a VPN server/device running that you're trying to connect to? For instance, are you connecting to a specific VPN device? Or what? If you're looking for both a VPN server/client, check out OpenVPN. It's SSL based. RPMForge has the RPMs to install the packages from. You can do a yum search to see what you can find... yum search vpn You can do things through IPSec as well. I suggest checking out the docs. But it's hard to say what you're looking for with the limited information you provided. http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/ch-vpn.html Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Python 2.4 64-bit problem w/CentOS5.3?
Curt Mills wrote: I'm getting this on two XF_64 systems by running yum update today. Perhaps Python 2.4 is missing some lib64 libraries? I'm getting this error on 32 bit systems as well. yum clean all Then run your updates again, and it worked fine after that. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Keep lossing wireless - ipw3945
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Ooops, Well that one slipped past me. Later tonight I will head over to the wired cafe here (they have a whooping 8 wired drops there!), and switch drivers. I had some issues similar to that before I switched. Once I switched the drivers, all was well, with one exception. My wifi light doesn't light up now, but other than that works flawlessly with connections. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing old kernels
Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: I have the following kernels on my /boot: 2.6.18-128.1.6 2.6.18-92.1.18 2.6.18-92.1.22 I'm low on /boot space and need to remove the oldest version. It appears that I cannot use yum to remove since all of the versions are the same (only the release is different). I believe that I can use rpm to remove the old version, but I also need to remove them from the grub.conf. Any other considerations and/or methods? You can also have the installonlyn limit bumped up if you want to automatically only keep n number of kernels. # vim /etc/yum.conf installonly_limit = n Set n to the number you want to keep. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server
Scott Silva wrote: As for IMAP access, Horde is fine. It will also work with other backends like Kolab if you so choose. I also didn't want to use Zimbra because I run my own spam and virus scanning, and I didn't want to downgrade to what Zimbra thinks works. And Horde has been around for a long time, and seems to stay current. The devels are very active, and patches come out regularly. Have you guys had any security issues with Horde at all running on an outside world server? I'm reading their security tips now, but wanted any opinions on experiences. Thanks, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server
Scott Silva wrote: I actually used the tarball from the horde site. If you untar it under your webroot, it is pretty easy. I have it authing through imp, which auths through IMAP from my local users. It was a lot easier then the rpm's in the extra, but you can't beat the ease of just yum groupinstall Horde Apps Cool. I'll have to check it out again then. We're currently running SquirrelMail here for webmail. While it's fine, it does only one thing, and that's e-mail. We really need shareable calendars, contact manager, and e-mail client all in one. Currently our backend is Postfix and dovecot. SquirrelMail connects through IMAP then. My boss wants me to keep the backend in place, so if Horde can connect through IMAP to pull mail, that would be ideal. I've been using Zimbra on my own e-mail account at work as a test, but the only thing that I don't like about Zimbra is that it cannot connect to anyone else with IMAP. It expects to be the full-blown mail server, not a secondary type system. So I had to set it up and jump through some hoops to get it talk, forward, and deliver mail, etc. from Postfix. I had looked at Horde some time ago, but brushed it off. I think I'll check it out though again and get it up and running. Thanks! Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server
Scott Silva wrote: Most of my users seem OK with it. I was running it side by side with roundcube as a test, and most users seem to like the extra bits. Besides, horde keeps compatibility with less than brand new PHP versions, but Roundcube insists you have the newest PHP installed everytime they generate a new version. I just can't hack a production server every few months at the whim of developers that want to play in a new sandbox every week. Squirrelmail is supposed to have many addons like shared addressbooks and calendars, but it seems that many of the apps don't play well with others. I gave up on trying to get them to work. As for IMAP access, Horde is fine. It will also work with other backends like Kolab if you so choose. I also didn't want to use Zimbra because I run my own spam and virus scanning, and I didn't want to downgrade to what Zimbra thinks works. And Horde has been around for a long time, and seems to stay current. The devels are very active, and patches come out regularly. I have it up and running already on a test machine. Seems pretty straight-forward. I found a nice guide to installing and configuring it on the Horde wiki, actually. Perhaps someone else can benefit from it as well. http://wiki.horde.org/CentOS5InstallationNotes I'm pretty impressed so far. Another thing about Zimbra that I don't like is that it keeps all of it's mail stores in some strange numbered format. You can just access a user's mailbox by name, which could be an issue down the road with restoring backups, etc. In this instance, Horde would just replace SquirrelMail, or for that matter, they could run side-by-side if so desired. Squirrelmail has been great for my organization for quite a few years, but it's just time for something a bit more suited to groupware-like use. Plus, we have an old version of PHP Groupware as a calendar, and I've never liked the package, and I'd like to combine some of these items into one package to maintain and worry about. Thanks again, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server
Scott Silva wrote: Do you think you might want webmail also? If so, the Horde apps from the extras repo will do it for you. Hi, Scott, I've been evaluating Zimbra for a bit now, as it seemed that configuration and set up of Horde was kind of complicating. I wasn't aware that it was in the repo, though, so perhaps I'll give it another shot. Are there any docs that you are aware of to getting it up and running using the RPMs? I know the Horde website has documentation on installing things, but they seem custom to installing it manually and compiling packages, etc. Honestly, their documentation seems lacking from a configuration stand point. Thanks for any input! Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS-docs] adding stuff to wiki
Marcus Moeller wrote: Good Evening Jeff. Please consider being less discouraging to people who want to help. I think it's not about discouraging someone. Just post a snipset of what you want to contribute to the wiki, so we can discuss it here. I can actually sympathize with the original poster here. I had to prove myself by continuing to come back to the CentOS wiki posting material, before I was trusted enough to be allowed to post things. I usually still always post a note asking for permission before I post a document I wrote, which sometimes gives me mixed emotions. I too sometimes feel discouraged when asking to post to the wiki. Part of that is, I think, how e-mail is very bland to read. You can't always assume the intent of the e-mail, versus in person. I generally think that everyone is here to help, but I sometimes feel discouraged easily by this list and the wiki. Perhaps that's just me not reading people correctly, but I feel if a document has good content, and is related to CentOS, then it can be helpful to others using CentOS. Depending on the content, and the topic though, some feel it might not be suitable on the wiki. While I understand the need to control the wiki against abuse of posting, I think that sometimes it's controlled a little too tightly, and things can be nit-picked at by others easily to the point where it makes the contributor feel discouraged very easily. The problem with this is that if it happens enough, then people aren't going to want to contribute, and will keep their documentation to themselves, or on their own websites. Opening the wiki up will help out in this aspect. Again, this is all my opinion, and perhaps it's just me not reading people well, but I do think that it's a real problem sometimes. I'm sure there are a ton of great writers that use CentOS, but don't want to post things here. But I also do understand the need to protect the pages. To the original poster, Jeff, just remember that if you post a few things and continue to do so, the hassle of things goes away pretty quickly. As a whole, a little bit of hassle at first will help other users in the long-run, but I do understand your position as well. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 update backlog
Vandaman wrote: I'm sure there are plenty of people who run CentOS in production and going without security updates for a month is not ideal. Many would offer to help were any offers for help made. Then I would suggest for those that they purchase RHEL with support. CentOS is a free community project, key word being free. I think the CentOS folks work extremely hard to deliver things as fast as they can, considering it's free. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite
René Standfest wrote: We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface which integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning. On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo. Slightly OT, but just wondering if you are planning on running openLDAP on the SOGo Opengroupware installation, or whether or not you have an external LDAP server (CentOS DS or RHEL DS) that you are planning on using? Any experiences or gotchas that you have already encountered that might be useful? My company is planning on implementing either FDS or CentOS DS as an LDAP server, and I read the docs for SOGo, and they are using openLDAP on the same machine. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: I develop on OpenGroupware, not SOGo, but both use SOPE's LDAP library/bindings. If the DSA supports LDAPv3 binds you shouldn't have any problems using it. I'd recommend OpenLDAP any day, as it is far-and-away the faster and more feature-reach DSA. But I very much doubt it matters in regards to SOGo. Adam, Excellent. Thanks! Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite
Bo Lynch wrote: Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list. We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I've been evaluating some packages for my employer the last few months. The two products I have narrowed it down to my needs are eGroupware and Zimbra. So far, I'm leaning towards Zimbra, because it seems to offer a nice e-mail system with an easy to use interface for users. There is a community edition and a commercial edition. http://www.zimbra.com/community/downloads.html I too am currently using Postfix and Squirrelmail, and would like to keep using Postfix as the primary transport system. There is a way to configure Zimbra to act as a secondary system forwarding mail to Postfix, but I can't find the link right now. There are also methods to migrate to Zimbra from Squirrelmail using some imapsync scripts to migrate the mailboxes. By itself though, it seems to have a nice and powerful mail system with all the features of anti-virus, spam, etc. eGroupware works great too, so make sure you check it out, but I'm thinking of leaning towards Zimbra for my needs. http://www.egroupware.org/ Check them out. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite
Rainer Duffner wrote: For Zimbra, yes. But honestly: how on earth would they be able to guarantee that it's working correctly in any other meaningful way? Would you like to do support for your product that relies on a dozen or more external other products (that aren't maintained in most Enterprise Linux distributions anyway) when any of the vendors you support the product on can introduce a patch anyday that changes some stuff only you need in your software - and now you have customers all over the world phoning you why your P-O-S-software stopped working out- of-a-sudden. I would have to agree here too. It can be a pain if you would have to maintain all the dependencies on a boxed system like this. There are plus and minuses to both. This is much like VMware's model for their Infrastructure software. (Yes, I know I'm comparing apples and oranges, but am using it as an example.) They are running on a RHEL base, which they maintain. You can't, or should I say you shouldn't, install, modify, or fiddle with any of your own packages, because they are supporting the actual OS, all the dependencies, as well as their own code. This is a plus because the project X maintains the patches, updates, bugs, etc. I think you could argue this as a benefit, or a nuisance, but if you're not looking to have to maintain separate pieces of a system, then it would be a benefit. If you have the time and resources to maintain them all separately, then you have the choice of choosing something where you have more control. If I'm not mistaken, I believe Zimbra tells you right up front that it should be a dedicated server for just Zimbra. It's purpose is exactly that, and you get what is advertised. I guess this is why mailing lists exist, so everyone can give their opinions and experiences as advice. Ultimately, you choose the project that you can best maintain given your time and experience, and what best meets your needs. My two cents anyways. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite
René Standfest wrote: We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface which integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning. On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo. Thank you for mentioning sogo. I took a look at this project today, and will be adding it to the list of packages I'm testing. When researching groupware packages before, this project didn't turn up, but am glad you brought it up here. It looks promising and worth a look! Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BackupPC newbie: a couple more questions
Timothy Murphy wrote: Just shows how opinions can differ. I found the documentation very bad, at least for one with my needs - a home network on a few computers looking for a simple backup system. I should say that BackupPC _is_ a simple backup system once it is installed and configured; it is the configuring that I found absurdly difficult, given that I only had to make a couple of config choices, once I had worked out what they were. I just put a guide up on the CentOS wiki a week or so ago. http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC The goal was to kind of put together all these bits and pieces into one simple to follow tutorial. It concentrates on using rsync to other Linux/CentOS clients, but perhaps it might help you out. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] masquerade from - postfix
David Hláčik wrote: As example mail from r...@sx1.labs.polarion.com should be masqueraded to mail from r...@polarion.com and etc. This is very easy fix in sendmail, but how to do this in postfix - and not to break virtual domains configuration. I believe in your /etc/postfix/main.cf file, just add the following: masquerade_domains = foo.example.com example.com Postfix docs: http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html#masquerade Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide
S.Tindall wrote: 1) Add the wiki reference, which contains clarification of many points not addressed sufficiently in the documentation. http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/ Done. 2) Also, a bug report contains corrective measures for the 64-bit installation. http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3175 3) Web interface documentation link issues are addressed in another bug report: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3190 5) A section addressing backing up Macs would be very helpful (to me). The official documentation is very lacking in that area. Do you have edit rights on the wiki? If so, feel free to add to or edit. Adding a section on Windows and Macs isn't very CentOS specific, so I doubt I'll be adding that, but if others want it, and have the ability to edit, feel free to add to my work. As I stated in the guide, it's primary content is for installing configuring BackupPC on CentOS, and backing up across rsync to other Linux servers. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide
S.Tindall wrote: Nope. Maybe someday. So you're asking me to apply something to a guide which you want, but yet to you don't want to offer time to add to the document yourself? My view of a HowTo's purpose is to make the described service useful to a wide audience. You don't interact with or administer window$ systems? Yes, I interact with Windows systems. All my desktop machines at work are Windows, however I don't back anything up from them. I use roaming profiles under Samba, which is under Linux. All user settings are then backed up normally from the Linux Samba server. If we limited the HowTos to centos-specific issues, they would read like a readme file. Consider the centos wiki mail HowTos which contain significant non-centos information that helps people get their mail server up and running securely. Again, my guide stated it was primarily for a CentOS BackupPC server backing up other Linux servers and machines. If you want it to be more broad, then add the content that you want. That's the entire point of a Wiki. Yes, I back up content and configurations on my web and mail servers along with my linux workstations using it. Adding window$ and Mac clients strikes me as a natural and useful extension. Ok, so add that part. When I wrote that guide this week, I had no intention on needing that aspect. So, if you need it, then write the sections and add it. Eventually I might need those aspects of BackupPC, but for now, I don't. Considering that you don't seem to be volunteering your time and writing to adding to the page, you seem to be awfully picky and demanding of what I spent time writing. If it's not what you want, improve on it then. For the third time to everyone, if you have something you want to change, add, edit, or delete, go to it. I don't know how to be more clear that I don't care if you want to edit or add to any of my pages I've contributed to. That being said, I'm personally done discussing this. You don't seem to be very appreciative to others volunteering any kind of time to the Wiki. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide
Akemi Yagi wrote: Of course, missing l is important (in fairy). :-D We have fairies now too on the wiki? Cool! :-D Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Added BackupPC Guide
William L. Maltby wrote: I read the thread the same as you. Maybe Max was stressed and misread the intent of Steve. You are correct William, I did misread what Steve was trying to say, and I didn't mean to sound harsh. I also explained in my reply back to Akemi why I felt Windows was off-topic: because the CentOS lists kind of create that feeling. That's why I didn't really want to discuss Windows related things. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Visualization and desktop page
Hi, all. How appropriate would a visualization and desktop prettification page be? I know like myself a lot of people use CentOS not only as their server, but also as their main desktop system. This page could be for used for adding desktop magic programs, tips, tricks, and visualizations. I was going to write a guide for installing and using Conky, if so. http://conky.sourceforge.net/ What's everyone think for having such a page to put these types of things? Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Visualization and desktop page
Scott Robbins wrote: I know I'd like to see such things (as one of the culprits in a way, having a few articles on laptops on the wiki.) Actually, by odd coincidence, just today I was thinking of putting Conky on one of them. But if Max, whose nagios articles I recommend to everyone, regardless of O/S, who is having trouble figuring out the nagios docs, is writing about it, I'll wait till he writes it to do it. So here's one vote for it. :) (After seeing Max's post, I went to his site to see if he'd already done it there, but apparently not.) Thanks, Scott! I really appreciate the compliments. I haven't written it yet which is why it's no where to be found yet. I just discovered Conky today, and I really like it, so I figured why not write a guide up. I used to use gdesklets all the time, but haven't for awhile. Conky seems better to use after playing around with it. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS] suspend/resume system crash
Sergej Kandyla wrote: I've installed CentOS 5.2 i386 (with all updates) on notebook Fujutsu Siemens Esprimo U9200 Suspending works normal, but after resuming my system crashes. There are no messages about that in /var/log/messages, only after reboot system I see in gnome: I have a ThinkPad, but I've never been able to get suspend/resume to work right with CentOS. Hibernation, however, worked fine for me until I started using disk encryption. Now, it too bombs because it can't wake up my encrypted file systems. Have you tried seeing if hibernation works? I know it's not the same, but I know I've never had a laptop that suspend/resume worked when using CentOS. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem after power failure: no more sound in Flash
Niki Kovacs wrote: I recently had a power failure, and since that, apparently the only problem I have is: flash videos in Firefox have no more sound. I tried to reinstall both firefox and flash-plugin, but to no avail. Is it installed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ ? # ll /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ If not, try recreating the symlink: # cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins # ln -s /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so . Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem after power failure: no more sound in Flash
Niki Kovacs wrote: Actually, I can play Flash videos alright. Only they have no sound. Other apps like mplayer or xmms do have sound. Which leaves me clueless. I was just thinking maybe there was something wrong with flash plugin file since the power was killed, which is why I mentioned that. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Terminal emulation scripting
Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: I need to write a script that will contact a remote system using TELNET with VT52/1xx/2xx/320 and perform some operations. I am familiar with TELNET but it appears that it won't work for my purposes. Check out expect. I had to do this with some data radios as of late, and it worked out pretty well. http://linux.die.net/man/1/expect Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] iptables local forwarding
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: Not recommended. Do 'service iptables save' as Filipe posted. I've never had any issues doing so. I know Johnny has recommended that several times on the list as well. If he says it works, then I would say it can't hurt. ;) Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] iptables local forwarding
Christopher Chan wrote: YMMV. I prefer to build one via iptables, save it, then copy the file across to all other hosts that use the same rules. Your preferred method and mine might be different, but the end result is the same, so what does it really matter? That's rhetorical by the way, because we both answered his question. Let this thread die now since the question was answered. Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home
Max Hetrick wrote: To further explain things, MoinMoin starts off headers with = Title 1 = and here's the problem with the html2wiki converter, it actually doesn't convert the h1 correctly with how I would logically think it should work. I contacted the Perl developer of HTML-WikiConverter-MoinMoin and explained the problem. It's definitely a bug in the converter dialect. The author asked me to file a bug report for him on CPAN, so I did so. In the meantime, I'll use Filipe's sed script to get the output needed. In case anyone else is using this, I wanted to follow up. Changes were made to the encryption page, as well as corrections to the rest of my pages. When you get a chance, Marcus, take a look and make sure the formatting is correct. Thanks. Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS] snmp question v3
adrian kok wrote: Do you know whether snmpwalk can work in v3? if not, how can I get the snmp v3 info Yes. # snmpwalk --help Look at the following switches then. -a PROTOCOL -l LEVEL -u USER -x PROTOCOL -X PASSPHRASE Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home
Hi everyone, I added a page under the HowTos for Encryption, and then added a guide for encrypting /tmp /swap and /home using cryptsetup and LUKS keys on LVM, when you already have partitions setup. http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/EncryptTmpSwapHome Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home
Marcus Moeller wrote: Please try to follow the wiki styling guidelines: http://wiki.centos.org/HowToContribute/EditingCentOSWiki That means you should e.g. use headings for titles and subtitles. Take a look at existing pages to see what I mean. I write my stuff in HTML, and then use html2wiki to format it. My headings are formatted for my website, which saves me from writing two sets of documents since both places are identical in content to the page. It's never been a problem before with all the pages I've contributed to, at least no one has spoke up with the other pages. Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home
Marcus Moeller wrote: We are just trying to offer a common look feel on the wiki. I am going to rework you page so that you can see what I mean. I understand and know what you mean, but it can be cumbersome and time consuming to have to write pages in multiple formats. I like writing docs for CentOS, but I also host them on my website where they are written in HTML first. I find wiki syntax to be annoying to write first drafts in, because that's just my preference. I'll try to more mindful about it in the future, on future posts and pages. Would you prefer to have documentation submitted by the community and people like myself who volunteer docs to delegated members to format uniformly on the wiki, rather than posting it myself? Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
