Re: [CentOS] libre office

2012-07-10 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:17:43 -0400
Michel Donais don...@telupton.com wrote:

 Why in 6.3 they move OpenOffice to LibreOffice?

Please don't reply to another thread on a mailing list and change the
subject. It screws up the message threading.


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Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-29 Thread Spiro Harvey
Shaun cen...@stinkfish.org wrote:
 I just need to be really careful about the remove command in future.

I've found that breaking things is always the fastest path to a great
education.


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Re: [CentOS] local repo question

2012-04-19 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I have created a local repo for CentOS 6 x86_64.

try:

cd /var/www/html/centos/6.2/updates/x86_64
createrepo .

then chown -R all the files so they're readable by the web server.

See if that updates the repodata properly.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 Testing repo

2012-03-15 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Those php-5.2.x rpms were unmaintained and full of security issues, so
 they were removed.
 You likely do not want any of the RPMs that were there, though I do
 have some of them on our build server.
 I would HIGHLY recommend that you either use the 5.1.6 security
 patched c5 main tree php ... OR ... use the php53 from c5.
 If you absolutely HAVE to have 5.2.x, I would recommend these:

Thanks. Yeah, the problem we've got is that we need to build some test
recovery boxes exactly the same as the live servers, so sourcing new
packages from external repos won't cut it unfortunately. 

Looks like we'll have to upgrade the lot and hope for the best. This
time, I'll put any testing packages we use in our own repos. Once
bitten, twice paranoid. :)

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[CentOS] CentOS 5 Testing repo

2012-03-13 Thread Spiro Harvey
We were using the CentOS 5 testing repo on dev.centos.org to update our
webservers' PHP to 5.2. However, we've just tried building a new
machine lately and found that the repo seems to be empty. Is this a
temporary fault, or has it gone away now that CentOS 6 is out?

If it has gone away, where can I grab PHP 5.2 packages from?

Thanks.


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Re: [CentOS] run without sendmail

2011-09-19 Thread Spiro Harvey
Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.com wrote:
   I'm running centos on a limited environment. Is it ok to turn off 
 sendmail
 and run without it.
 Are there issues with doing that or is all Ok.

Mail delivery can still work with sendmail turned off. The daemon is
just there to receive mail.

This guy explains it better than I can:

http://www.deer-run.com/~hal/sysadmin/sendmail.html

There's no reason to turn the MTA on unless you're running a mail
server. Non-mail servers should just have a cron job flushing the
submission queue just in case, but the MTA itself doesn't need to run.

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Re: [CentOS] .XXX Domain Name / Trade Mark Protection

2011-08-21 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Please additionally note I thought, mistakenly it appears, I was being
 helpful and have taken notice of the objections.

Please note, this is a mailing list for people to get help with CentOS.
Nothing else.

Most people here are old enough to figure out how to get their own news.

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Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Spiro Harvey
 the thing is that not all mail clients will set the in-reply-to
 headers, whuch is why clients like thunderbird, evolution and mutt
 will use the subject line as well to thread messages.

Apple Mail does that too and it makes the threading unusable IMO.

If the clients are too dumb to adhere to a convention, I don't believe
it's our job to baby them.

Personally, I like the idea of the [SOLVED] tags because they can
indicate when help is no longer needed. 

However, I also like the way the Sun Managers list does (did? it's been
many years since I used it), but they basically said, post a question,
work it out, then post a new SOLVED thread outlining the solution.

While that would probably be a bit too formal for this list, it was a
fantastic way of learning things. And having the solved thread made
searching through archives way easier. Find a problem related to yours,
then look for the SOLVED post. If you needed more detail, you went back
to the main thread and read all the posts to see how they came to that
conclusion.


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Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Spiro Harvey
 There is a fundamental problem with that - this list isnt a support 
 list, its a list of and for people who use CentOS to talk about
 CentOS. By thinking of it as a one way support system you have
 reduced the list to essentially a bugtracker / issuetracker / support
 thread and that in itself defeats a very large part of what the list
 ( and community herein ) is about.

Yep, that's kind of what I was meaning by saying it was a more formal
approach, but you said it better. :)


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Re: [CentOS] Centos as Gateway ? (Router/transparent proxy)

2011-05-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Mon, 2 May 2011 20:21:19 +0800
Fajar Priyanto fajar...@arinet.org wrote:
 Also worth considering is to upgrade the subscription to unlimited
 internet access.

1. There's no such thing as unlimited. There are always limits. You're
thinking of flat rate.

2. Flat rate isn't available in every country.

3. Irrespective of cost, sometimes heavy downloading can eat into a
connection's bandwidth and kill the connection for everyone else. In
fact, upgrading to a flat rate plan encourages this kind of behaviour
more.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos as Gateway ? (Router/transparent proxy)

2011-05-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Mon, 2 May 2011 14:19:13 -0700
Drew drew@gmail.com wrote:

  3. Irrespective of cost, sometimes heavy downloading can eat into a
  connection's bandwidth and kill the connection for everyone else. In
  fact, upgrading to a flat rate plan encourages this kind of
  behaviour more.
 If the ISP offer's flat rate or capped flat rate services and
 can't handle the load, that's their problem, not ours. It just means
 they didn't do their infrastructure capacity planning properly.

I meant everyone else on that one connection, not the ISPs other
customers. If you have a 3Mbit link, you are restricted to 3Mbit
bandwidth. If someone is downloading hell for leather, then this will
affect everyone else sharing that connection.

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Re: [CentOS] log time formats - where is this defined

2011-02-27 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:33:57 -0500
Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote:

 One of my servers is using ISO datetime formats 
 (2011-02-27T15:22:15.519857-05:00) in the logs
 the rest use the default redhat/CentOS format (Feb 27 15:10:21).
 After a couple of hours searching google I cannot find where this is 
 defined.
 I know I changed it some months ago as an experiment but forgotten
 where this was done.
 the ISO format breaks logwatch - thus I need to revert.

Have you changed that box to use rsyslog instead of the default syslog?

If so, there's a post on HowToForge with some info on how to put it
back into traditional format:

http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49642

More detail is in man rsyslog.conf in the TEMPLATES section.


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Re: [CentOS] ~/.forward file?

2011-02-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I'm just poking thru our previous sysadmin's user adding script and
 saw reference to a ~/.forward file containing the users email
 address. Any idea what it might be for? It's a tricky one to
 Google ;-)

The ancient art of Google-fu takes many years to perfect.

But sometimes the most mundane conjurations are the most enlightening.

what is a linux .forward file for nets many good results, but they
are mostly discussions. For true enlightenment, however, the path is
the most difficult because it appears to be so outwardly easy:

.forward file 

;)


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Re: [CentOS] Package updates for 5.4?

2011-01-26 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:51:51 -0800
Mitch Patenaude mi...@rapleaf.com wrote:

 without having to change versions.  Upgrading to 5.6 would likely
 involve upgrading several core packages (mysql, ruby, python, bind,
 even glibc and the kernel). Is this a pipe dream?

Shouldn't be. I never think of point releases as separate versions and
always upgrade (after installing on a test box to see everything still
works as expected :) ).

CentOS/upstream provider ensure that software in point releases are the
same major versions.

The point releases *are* the security updates.

Sometimes upgraded packages are made available, as in the case of php,
but the new version has a different package name. ie; the php package
is 5.1, but the updated release's package name was php53 (or php52) and
I think was only available through the Extras repo.



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Re: [CentOS] cloning a server

2011-01-20 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Basically I want to clone this server and make it easy to install on
 another similar hardware server without having to install centos and
 then manually installing/configuring dovecot/postfix/mysql etc. Not
 sure if I can create a bootable ISO that will install on new servers
 or what my options are. I would appreciate any suggestions. 

We use Kickstart. 

You can build a customised Kisckstart script to install anything you
want. Just put custom config files accessible off a web server, and you
can just copy those over as part of the setup. Or package them up into
your own RPMs and run your own repo. In fact, if you're doing several
of these, it's probably recommended to run your own repo with the base
and updates for speed and bandwidth savings.

You can have kickststart run a yum update so each box will have the
latest updates as at install time.

Your boot CD or flash stick can auto-boot the kickstart files, so all
you have to do is insert the media and turn the box on. Once it's done,
all you have to do is reboot and you're ready to go.


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Re: [CentOS] New list ?

2010-11-24 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Thoughts on getting a new list started up ?  Should it be 
 centos-sysadmin or centos-infra ? Are we going to then restrict it to 
 admin/infra related chatter ? in which case, does the eyeball density
 on this list reduce for that sort of content ?

I would love a new list for sysadmins. Having a lower volume list that
does not encourage newbie posts would be ideal for me. Serious technical
problems either go unanswered because they get lost in the noise, or
because maybe the more knowledgable sysadmins don't waste their time
here.

I don't mean to say there aren't knowledgeable and able people here,
but I think if there was a list focused to them, then I think that
would attract more technical people who are able to help each other out
on problems higher up the food chain.

But maybe that's an idea for a generic linux list and not a CentOS
focused one.

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Re: [CentOS] New list ?

2010-11-24 Thread Spiro Harvey
Further to my last email, another option for more technical users is
Reddit. I started http://www.reddit.com/r/linuxadmin about a year ago.

Free signup, no confirmation, just choose a login and password and go
(and there's much more on Reddit which may appeal).

/r/linuxadmin currently has just under 900 readers.

It's not CentOS focused, but is aimed at more technical problems and
discussions and may be an alternative for people if this list doesn't
get split.


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Re: [CentOS] good shell script examples?

2010-11-15 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Does anyone have any suggestions on where to look?  (I'm relatively
 new to bash)


http://www.google.com/search?q=bash+tutorial has quite a few.

I wrote a simple one a few years back:

http://www.happyhacker.org/gtmhh/basha.shtml


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[CentOS] Need advice trying to load ethernet firmware for kickstart

2010-11-10 Thread Spiro Harvey
I've got a memory stick that I use to install systems. It's basically
just has a simple isolinux setup on it that calls up the kickstart
files from an http server and pulls down the distro via our online repo.

However, I'm trying to get a standard automated install like this on an
IBM box which has a Broadcom NetXtreme 2 NIC that requires firmware to
be there on bootup.

I've got the file, and I've added it into the directory that I think it
should be in (/lib/firmware/bnx2) on the initrd.img. However, when the
system boots, it identifies the NICs on one of the console screens,
but borks and won't boot properly.

On console 1:

GRUB boots, I get menu, choose option.
Kernel loads
initrd.img loads
anaconda starts
loads usb-storage module
borks with:


loader received SIGSEGV! Backtrace
[0xf00bar]
 ... etc
install exited normally [1/1]


sends termination signals, unmounts everything, and halts (You may
safely reboot)

On console screen 3:

last few items are loading bnx2 module, insert module, remove
usb-storge from modprobe.conf, and finally getting kickstart file

On screen 4:

detects storge devices and BNX2 NICs


It seems to be crapping out when it tries to do the network access, but
I've got nothing more I can trace the problem with. There's no shell
yet. So I can't figure out if I've put the firmware in the wrong place,
given it the wrong permissions (dirs are 755 and .fw file is 644) but
whether that even matters because the source files are on a FAT16
partition, I don't know. It could just not be loading it, or the file
could be corrupt.

So how do I go about debugging this? Or am I doing it wrong?

Any advice or pointers greatly appreciated.

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Re: [CentOS] odd ClamAV error

2010-10-26 Thread Spiro Harvey
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
  Has anyone recently started seeing
  LibClamAV Warning: Cannot prepare for JIT,  because it has already
  been converted to interpreter
  ? I can't find  anything googling for that.
 Thanks, John. What terms did you use in the search? I used clamav,
 libclam, and freshclam, with could not prepare.

Why would you type could not prepare if the error message says
Cannot prepare?

If you google for the actual error message (and it sometimes pays to
wrap it in quotes, especially if you're adding extra terms), you'll get
useful results.



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Re: [CentOS] Determine next UID number

2010-10-13 Thread Spiro Harvey
John Kennedy skeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 This also does not tell me how useradd knows that on this system at
 this time the highest UID assigned to a user is 20015. 

From the source's mouth (this is from useradd.c in the shadow-utils package):

/*
 * find_new_uid - find the next available UID
 *
 *  find_new_uid() locates the next highest unused UID in the password
 *  file, or checks the given user ID against the existing ones for
 *  uniqueness.
 */
static void find_new_uid (void)
{
const struct passwd *pwd;
uid_t uid_min, uid_max;

uid_min = getdef_unum (UID_MIN, 1000);
uid_max = getdef_unum (UID_MAX, 6);

/*
 * Start with some UID value if the user didn't provide us with
 * one already.
 */
if (!uflg)
user_id = uid_min;

/*
 * Search the entire password file, either looking for this
 * UID (if the user specified one with -u) or looking for the
 * largest unused value.
 */
#ifdef NO_GETPWENT
pw_rewind ();
while ((pwd = pw_next ())) {
#else   /* using getpwent() we can check against NIS 
users etc. */
setpwent ();
while ((pwd = getpwent ())) {
#endif
if (strcmp (user_name, pwd-pw_name) == 0) {
fprintf (stderr, _(%s: name %s is not unique\n),
 Prog, user_name);
#ifdef WITH_AUDIT
audit_logger (AUDIT_USER_CHAUTHTOK, Prog, adding user,
  user_name, user_id, 0);
#endif
exit (E_NAME_IN_USE);
}
if (uflg  user_id == pwd-pw_uid) {
fprintf (stderr, _(%s: UID %u is not unique\n),
 Prog, (unsigned int) user_id);
#ifdef WITH_AUDIT
audit_logger (AUDIT_USER_CHAUTHTOK, Prog, adding user,
  user_name, user_id, 0);
#endif
exit (E_UID_IN_USE);
}
if (!uflg  pwd-pw_uid = user_id) {
if (pwd-pw_uid  uid_max)
continue;
user_id = pwd-pw_uid + 1;
}
}

/*
 * If a user with UID equal to UID_MAX exists, the above algorithm
 * will give us UID_MAX+1 even if not unique. Search for the first
 * free UID starting with UID_MIN (it's O(n*n) but can be avoided
 * by not having users with UID equal to UID_MAX).  --marekm
 */
if (!uflg  user_id == uid_max + 1) {
for (user_id = uid_min; user_id  uid_max; user_id++) {
#ifdef NO_GETPWENT
pw_rewind ();
while ((pwd = pw_next ())
pwd-pw_uid != user_id);
if (!pwd)
break;
#else
if (!getpwuid (user_id))
break;
#endif
}
if (user_id == uid_max) {
fprintf (stderr, _(%s: can't get unique UID\n), Prog);
fail_exit (E_UID_IN_USE);
}
}
}



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Re: [CentOS] How can binaries be different when package versions are identical? (mkfs.ext3 on CentOS 5.4)

2010-06-29 Thread Spiro Harvey
Aleksey Tsalolikhin atsaloli.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 (a) account for the difference in the binaries, and
 (b) see if something else is different that I can make the same to get
 the mkfs.ext3 time down to 15 sec on both systems.
 Solving (a) should shed light on (b).  Any ideas?

Look into prelinking (man prelink). A prelinker from /etc/cron.daily
that changes the binaries with an aim to speed up execution.


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Re: [CentOS] downgrade

2010-06-15 Thread Spiro Harvey
mattias jonsson m...@mjw.se wrote:
 Or
 Enter the 5.0 repo?

That won't work because yum will just tell you everything is up to date.

You need to either look at what broke (if anything, and the reason for
your wanting to go backwards) and just back those out, or do what
others have said: back up data and reinstall box.

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Re: [CentOS] update of rpm directory

2010-05-13 Thread Spiro Harvey
Adrian Sevcenco adrian.sevce...@cern.ch wrote:

 Thanks it helps! but a little more bit of info^Whints could help even
 more: lets say that on the server i do this stuff (and where is this
 dir from which nodes are installed) everything is up to date.. (and
 worker nodes are NOT updated) and i dont want to ask nodes do give me
 an rpm -qa.. how can a make a diff (comparing versions) between
 rpms form local directory and update repo? (other than take the rpm
 name from dir; strip name and version ; search in update repo the rpm
 name ; compare version , if newer download rpm )

If I understand you correctly, you're asking how the worker nodes know
what to update?

The simplest answer is that yum deals with all that.

If you set up a local repo mirror, then that machine should share out
that repo directory via http or ftp. You would sync that with an upline
mirror, either via ftp or rsync.

Then on the worker nodes, you would create a custom repo file
in /etc/yum.repos.d pointing to your local repository.

Then the worker nodes could just run a yum update and they would get
all the updates they need. It will do all the version checking, and all
you have to worry about is keeping your server's local mirror up to
date.


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Re: [CentOS] Free and Robust Hotspot Management Software ?

2010-05-13 Thread Spiro Harvey
Roberto HT htdocs.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could anybody give me some recommended open source software for wifi
 management?


They're called Captive Portals:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_portal

That page lists a few of them.


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Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Since 5.5 is now out from Red Hat and most likely our amazing CentOS
 team has already jumped on that, is there any word on Release 6?  IIRC
 it's already a year out of date (base was supposed to be Fedora 10),
 so I have to wonder.


I vaguely recollect that RH mentioned pushing out the (total) life
cycles of a release from 5 to 7 years, or 7 to 10 or something like
that.


Their lifecycle info is here:

http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/errata/

But there's no mention of any changes on there...


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Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com wrote:

 If the accident accidentally involves a circular saw, a YouTube link 
 would be really cool! :-)

You know you use Reddit too much when you look for an upvote button.

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[CentOS] Any way to initiate a kickstart from shell prompt?

2009-12-08 Thread Spiro Harvey
Hi all,

I've set up a CentOS flash stick using the LiveCD tools, then dumping
that onto flash with a persistent overlay - instructions here:
http://wtf.geek.nz/?blog/2009/12/08/how-to-make-a-useful-centos-utility-flash-stick

This gets me to a prompt in which I can do recovery stuff, but I'm
curious to know if it's possible to initiate a kickstart install onto
the local disks from that prompt. 

I've got a separate stick that appends ks= lines to boot different
kickstart files, but I'd really like to have the ability to do this on
the non-auto-install stick too.

Is this possible? Is there a command that kicks this off?

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Re: [CentOS] crontab problem

2009-11-22 Thread Spiro Harvey
Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi;
 I have the following in crontab -eu root:
 @daily /usr/local/bin/mysql-backup-
 daily.sh
 @weekly /usr/local/bin/mysql-backup-weekly.sh
 @monthly /usr/local/bin/mysql-backup-monthly.sh

the above is looking for mysql-backup-[day|week|month]ly.sh

but the filenames below don't have -backup in their names.

 [r...@13gems globalsolutionsgroup.vi]# ls /usr/local/bin/mysql-*
 /usr/local/bin/mysql-daily.sh  /usr/local/bin/mysql-monthly.sh
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Re: [CentOS] kernel not booting after update

2009-11-15 Thread Spiro Harvey
Larry Brigman larry.brig...@gmail.com wrote:
 If the /boot is also part of the raid and it is a soft raid (fake raid
 is the same)
 then maybe only one of the mirror is being updated and grub is
 looking at the other mirror and not finding the files needed.

I think you're on the right track here. I dropped the raid set, and
rebuilt the box, and this time took note of the syncing.. dmraid -s
kept telling me the mirror was ok so I'm guessing it synced correctly.

I installed the update again, then set -53 to boot first in the grub
order, but it dumped me at the grub prompt.

So I typed kernel 2.6.18- and hit tab, and saw both files (-53 and
-164). Hit tab again, and it completed -53. I went back and typed -164
and selected that. First time Error 13 (unknown executable format). I
reran the kernel line and this time was told Error 15: File Not Found.
Ran it again and got error 13. It pretty much alternated.

So it looks like one side of the mirror isn't getting synced properly.

There are 7 other boxen for which this has worked, so it's possible
this one is just faulty.

I'm also going to try Rob's idea of nodmraid to see what happens
there.

Appreciate all the help.


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[CentOS] kernel not booting after update

2009-11-12 Thread Spiro Harvey
+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[r...@dhcp-248 ~]# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 226G  1.3G  213G   1% /
tmpfs 504M 0  504M   0% /dev/shm


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Re: [CentOS] kernel not booting after update

2009-11-12 Thread Spiro Harvey
John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 The E8500 is a desktop Core2Duo CPU, I thought? 'what sort of 

Yes, my mistake. It's a Core 2 Duo. 

I don't know where I saw the Xeon sticker. I saw the E8500
on /proc/cpuinfo but didn't RTFS properly. :/ This was further confused
when I googled E8500 and one of the hits mentioned Xeon...

The raid is indeed an Intel Matrix RAID. The BIOS is configured so that
the sata controller is in RAID mode, and the OPROM is set to Matrix
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Re: [CentOS] gpg command works fine from login shell, not from cron script

2009-10-19 Thread Spiro Harvey
Sean Carolan scaro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why does it say secret key not available?  The output of gpg -K
 shows that the key is in fact available, and this is further confirmed
 when I run the script manually and the files are decrypted just fine.

Is the cron job running as a different user? eg; are you running gpg as
a non-privileged user and the cronjob as root?

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Re: [CentOS] resolv.conf rewritten every reboot. How to figure out who and why?

2009-10-08 Thread Spiro Harvey
 about dhcpclient. The only package I have installed that shows up in

It's called dhclient, so searching for dhcp won't give you a hit on
that.

chkconfig for dhclient too, and see what that results.

Also, look at /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0.

It's possible to have addresses statically assigned via DHCP based on
MAC addresses. If resolv.conf is getting populated by dhclient, then
I'm guessing the odds of you having a dhcp server on your network is
good. :)

In all likelihood, you have a static IP assigned in your ifcfg-eth0,
and the resolv.conf is being over-written by dhclient.

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Re: [CentOS] ee on CentOS

2009-10-07 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I'm switching a couple of servers from fbsd to CentOS.
 In fbsd I'm used to ee as the text editor.
 Is that available in CentOS?

I've just had time to fiddle with the rpmfind version I pointed you to,
and it didn't work very well, so I've rebuilt it as a binary RPM...

http://wtf.geek.nz/dl/easyedit-1.5.0-1.tek.i386.rpm

and the spec file in case you're interested is at:

http://pastebin.com/f12fc126b

I'll leave the spec file permanent, but may remove the RPM at a random
point in the future, so grab it if you want it.


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Re: [CentOS] ee on CentOS

2009-10-06 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I'm switching a couple of servers from fbsd to CentOS.
 In fbsd I'm used to ee as the text editor.
 Is that available in CentOS?

Not as an official package, but RPMfind appears to have a source RPM for
it..

http://www.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/openpkg/current/SRC/EVAL/ee-1.5.0-20090527.src.html

Source packages are typically installed in

/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/

and there should be a spec file in 

/usr/src/redhat/SPECS/

(working off the cuff) you should be able to do something like:

rpm -ivh ee*.rpm
rpmbuild -bb /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/ee.spec

and then after it compiles it (and assuming all the depencies are met),
you should have a binary RPM in

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/


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Re: [CentOS] Updating an AntiVirus trougth a proxy (ERROR)

2009-09-28 Thread Spiro Harvey

Alberto, please don't reply to a previous email and change the subject
line. Click on New Message when starting a new topic.

You screw up the threading, and is considered thread hijacking.


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Re: [CentOS] install Oracle on the Centos

2009-08-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
 does anyone install the oracle on the centos?
 I try to install the oracle on my computer.  but fail.
 It has problem on kernel setting and add the swap disk.

Please don't hit reply and change the subject. This is considered
thread hijacking and really annoying for those of us who view our email
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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-08-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:55:21 +0100
Marcelo M. Garcia marcelo.maia.gar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 CentOS and Scientific Linux together would be like dream come true.

Everyone has different dreams. :)


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Re: [CentOS] Centos convert to rhel?

2009-07-30 Thread Spiro Harvey
Bob Hoffman b...@bobhoffman.com wrote:
 And to learn the lead guy seems to have absconded with the cash and
 left all the hard working devs high and dry..well that is scary.


PANIC


No he hasn't left them all high and dry. By the sound of it, none of
the devs have *ever* seen any cash. They're all paying for this out of
their own pockets.

Worst case scenario, the Centos project has lost everything currently
donated, and has to set up a new domain name and new paypal account.
That doesn't change anything for the average bum like you and me. The
devs will keep doing their work and in fact, things may improve,
because once things are sorted under someone else's control (or a
committee), then there will probably be some money available to them
for travel to shows, or whatever.

From my point of view, I've never even heard of Lance, so the people
doing the work will continue doing the work.

So sit down, stop conjuring up disaster scenarios that the world will
end, down a few shots of your favourite whiskey or bourbon, and have a
nap.


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Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really helpful

2009-06-21 Thread Spiro Harvey
   from a promotional standpoint, i would avoid getting into that
 centos is a volunteer effort, and i would *seriously* avoid using the
 word difficulty.  all i was suggesting earlier is that there are a

What? You'd prefer we lie to people?

If we don't tell people that it's a community run volunteer effort,
expectations change. The C in CentOS stands for Community. 

 number of ways to admit that centos has no *official* support channel,
 and that it would be useful to, even in admitting that, word it in
 such a way to not scare away potential adopters.

Potential adopters are those who:

a) are happy to get free community support
b) those who can't or won't pay Redhat's fees

Redhat charge per license, but that comes with support. So if you
really want paid support, Redhat is what you should be looking for. 

If you're in camp b, then you must also be a part of camp a.
Personally, I think you're barking up the wrong tree as you aren't
interested in free community support.

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Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really helpful

2009-06-21 Thread Spiro Harvey
Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
   i can say that *i* could try to handle it, but a suitably large
 company won't find that acceptable.  they'll probably want something
 more substantial in the way of support.

A suitably large company can afford RHEL. CentOS and RHEL are the same,
only the latter has commercial support available.


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Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really helpful

2009-06-21 Thread Spiro Harvey
Neil Aggarwal n...@jammconsulting.com wrote:
 Along these lines, I would like the support area to have a 
 consultants directory.  That will give consulting companies
 (Like mine) a place to list themselves as providing CentOS
 support.

This can be a very fine line to walk. 

A list of consultants can easily be misinterpreted as endorsement. If a
bad consultant rips someone off or does bad work, this can reflect on
the people hosting the list... and if that's the people who release the
product, this can get even worse.

It's my belief that this list needs to be done by a 3rd party.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4.7 hanging after logout

2009-06-17 Thread Spiro Harvey
Gill, please don't reply to a thread and change the subject. Create a
new message. 

You almost misaligned the planet. I managed to close the wormhole
before the demons entered our realm, but it was a close call.

Just be careful next time.

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Re: [CentOS] Cyrus IMAP and ipurge

2009-06-17 Thread Spiro Harvey

  i too have a similar query  i too need to delet messages older than
  3 days
 .
 in my /etc/cyru.conf i have a entry like this
 delprune cmd=cyr_expire -E 3 at=0400
 would this mean that the messages
 in(  /var/spool/imap/a/users/abp/* ) older than 3 days get deleted ?

It doesn't seem to (which you could ascertain if you see any messages
older than 3 days in your mailbox).

I have this option enabled too, so it must only expire messages (or
folders) marked for expiry. But it clearly doesn't use the Expire
option for mailboxes, because that sets an age separately. So I'm still
unsure how the pieces in this puzzle are designed to fit together.

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Re: [CentOS] Rsync, SSH and authorized_keys problem

2009-06-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:59:27 +0100
Stewart Williams li...@pinkyboots.co.uk wrote:
 command=rsync -avz -e ssh -i ~/.ssh/backup-key /backup
 stew...@name.of.remote.server:/backup ssh-dss ... key ...

well, I've never seen anything other than keys in an authorized_keys
file.. (btw - use authorized_keys2 for ssh v2), but I'd hazard a guess
and say that the speech marks are what could be causing it grief.

try single quotes (') around the command= bit with the double quotes
around the ssh command and see if that makes a difference.

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[CentOS] Cyrus IMAP and ipurge

2009-06-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
Anyone here familiar with Cyrus IMAP and its util ipurge?

We'd like to set auto deletion of our users' spambox folders, but I'm a
bit paranoid about its functionality.

The main things that confuse me are from the man page:

Ipurge  deletes  messages from the mailbox(es) specified by
mailbox-pattern

with no indication as to what defines mailbox-pattern

Second:

Ipurge  by  default  only  deletes mail below shared folders, which
means that mails in mail- box(es) below INBOX.* and user.* stay
untouched. Use the option -f to  also  delete  mail  in mailbox(es)
below these folders.

What's a shared folder?

OK, so the format of a Junk mail folder is:

user/spiro/j...@knossos.net.nz

and I've successfully done:

$ ipurge -f -d 90 user/spiro/j...@knossos.net.nz
Working on user/spiro/j...@knossos.net.nz...
total messages   21
total bytes  187742
Deleted messages 16
Deleted bytes138324
Remaining messages   5
Remaining bytes  49418


however, without the -f, it did nothing, even though I was explicitly
supplying a folder. Clearly I misunderstand what the man page is trying
to tell me.

I'd like to set up a proper pattern to purge all spamboxes correctly
via the cyrus.conf, because at the moment, I've got an awk script that
generates a list of email addresses and produces a list in the format of
user/userid/j...@domain. I could then go over that list and run an
ipurge for each one, but if anything happens that causes that list to
be corrupted, I'm afraid of deleting the wrong mail. or worse. :(

according to what I've gathered, the line:

purgespam   cmd=ipurge -f -d 90 user/%/j...@* at=0430

should work when put in cyrus.conf's Events section, but I can't
confirm these wildcards. Some results on google just refer to * for the
mailbox name, but none seem to include the domain as part of the string.

Can anyone here shed some light?

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Re: [CentOS] Cyrus IMAP and ipurge

2009-06-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:53:58 -0500
Jeff jlar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can't help much with ipurge. I never did like how it works. I have
 chosen a different approach using the cyradm mboxconfig command to
 set the expire option on each mailbox as needed. The 'expire' option
 is set-it-and-forget-it. Yet this approach lacks managability. There
 is no quick and easy way to survey all of your user mailboxes to
 check the expire option settings.

Thanks Jeff. I thought that the expire mboxconfig setting required
running of the cyr_expire program to trigger it, but I could never
figure out why it forces you to include the expiry age on the command
line when the mailbox folders have that info already.



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Re: [CentOS] [OT] DR

2009-05-26 Thread Spiro Harvey
Scott McClanahan smcclana...@forterrainc.com wrote:

 I remember a thread many months ago where someone asked about a
 disaster recovery template or guide and several people on this list
 linked some really good content.  I can't seem to find that thread

archives are here:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/

 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

the link at the bottom of every email posted on this mailing list has a
link to the archives.

There's no search functionality I can see on that site, but if you go
to Google, and punch in your search query followed by:

site:http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/

then Google will restrict its search to the archives. :)

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Re: [CentOS] Shell Script Pointers?

2009-05-14 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Thu, 14 May 2009 12:35:13 +0100
James Bensley jwbens...@gmail.com wrote:

 Update: these lines should be:
  + $X

that should be lower case.

My guess is that because your variables all equal zero, it's possible
that something is wrong with:

find /usr/local/squidGuard/db -maxdepth 1 -type d | while read FOLDER;

stick set -x under your #!/bin/sh to see what's running and what's
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Re: [CentOS] Shell Script Pointers?

2009-05-13 Thread Spiro Harvey
 to run nightly, it will download the latest blacklist tarball, un tar
 it and then add any new entries to the existing black list. The

if you're already going to the effort of downloading the entire
blacklist every night, why not dump the old database, and just insert
the newly downloaded one?

 tar -cxf blacklist.tar

this will suck your computer into a vortex of doom. I recommend either
creating a tarball, or extracting one, but not both at the same time. :)

In all honesty, you might be better targeting this query to squidGuard
users, as this may be something they do regularly.


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Re: [CentOS] gdm login as root automatically

2009-04-20 Thread Spiro Harvey
 4) complete installing some things and REMOVE the auto root login.

yum info firstboot

does this package help you acheive your goals?


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Re: [CentOS] OT: Possible for Malware against Windows boxes to attack Firefox on Linux?

2009-04-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 the forum, which is a highly restricted area. Today when it happened,

what exactly is *it*? 

 Install-2006-60.exe which I declined, etc. Comes from
 http://antispywarepcscanner.com  Is there any way the Firefox web
 browser could have been corrupted by this, while using CentOS Linux?

no.


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Re: [CentOS] OT: Torrent software choice

2009-04-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:41:33 -0400
Robert Spangler mli...@zoominternet.net wrote:
 So what is everyone using for their torrent?
 What is the best?

amusing. There is no such thing as the best, only the best fit to your
needs.

For a start, what front end do you want? gnome, kde, tcl, cli, cli with
curses, web based? Do you want it to disappear in your system tray? do
you want to feed it into screen so you can log back into it at work and
review its status? do you want to have the status pasted in a section
of conky?

Anybody who tells you what is best is just telling you their
favourite, which is almost always useless information. 


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Re: [CentOS] Getting ready for CentOS 5.4

2009-03-26 Thread Spiro Harvey

I've got a couple of cents change here...




On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:41:41 -0400
mbneto mbn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do not have any sort of numbers of the popularity of CentOS but I
 suspect that we are very popular and in that sense a certain level of
 responsibility (to that community) is required.


required? How do you figure anything is *required* of volunteers?
Show me your support contract.

If you're worried that CentOS is late or is stopping you from
fulfilling your own contractual obligations, perhaps you should stop
being a tight-arse and pay for RedHat support.

When you pay nothing, you have no right to expect anything. Unless
they're your slaves, and I'm pretty sure that's not the case here.


 And as long as CentOS stays a relevant distro the pressure (not 
 only from me) will continue to raise.

This is just rude. 



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Re: [CentOS] Looking for a list of default services to disable in centos 5

2009-03-25 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I am looking for a list of services that you disable by default on
 your server. 

what kind of server? smtp server? pop/imap server? proxy server? web
server? ftp server? logging server? voip gateway? firewall? rpm build
box? swipe card reader server? development/source repo server? LDAP,
NFS? 

or are you looking for a set of things that we disable by default on
all servers? At which point I question your choice of removing sendmail
(unless you're replacing it with something like exim or postfix)
because most servers need to send mail, even if it's just to alert you
when a cron job has barfed.

personally I disable, or don't install SE Linux, Network Manager (with
extreme prejudice), and anything to do with wireless/bluetooth, and X
on every single server. 

From there it depends on what the server is doing.

We've got a Kickstart server and boot off USB sticks and CDs that
allow us to pick generic build types off a menu (eg; web server, smtp
server, mail storage server, etc). The kickstart config just pulls down
the packages we want, a few scripts get run doing various things like
updating all packages, setting up our distributed config system,
installing custom packages, and so on. 

However, I don't see the usefulness in seeing what other people
disable. Everybody has different networks, different requirements, and
does different things on their boxes. What you should be doing is
looking at *your* servers and itemising what they do. Then remove all
packages that are not needed to provide those services.

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0358 Moderate CentOS 3 ia64 evolution - security update

2009-03-18 Thread Spiro Harvey
$ gpg --list-key 7049E44D025E513B
pub   1024D/025E513B 2004-03-15 [expired: 2009-03-14]
uid  CentOS-3 Key centos-3...@caosity.org


The key you signed with has expired. I tried refreshing it, but it had
not changed. Is there any particular keyserver I should update it from?

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Re: [CentOS] Should I be worried?

2009-03-04 Thread Spiro Harvey

 The result is that I have forgotten my
 Linux know how!

and your google know-how. 

I just googled it and got bucketloads of results. Maybe you should try
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Re: [CentOS] What is the System Event Log?

2009-02-08 Thread Spiro Harvey
 The message on the screen tells me to look at the System Event Log.

What application is doing that? System Event Log sounds like Windows
terminology.

 Incidentally, wouldn't it be a good idea for /var/log/messages*
 to start a new file when booting?

that's what /var/log/dmesg is for.

messages files are typically rolled over daily or when they hit a
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Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe

2009-02-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
 No footer. Perhaps it is just a setting on the mailing list that I
 disabled?
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11

Here's your problem. :)

Microsoft do things their own way and assume that's how everybody likes
it. Inevitably, all their users have to conform, because they don't
have any other option.

If you're in a corporate environment and can't choose your own
software, then I recommend using some kind of webmail client -- but not
Hotmail.


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Re: [CentOS] unsubscribe

2009-02-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:51:31 -0700
Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 That's funny, I am using OL as well, and I don't have a problem with
 headers/footers or Microsoft trying to tell me to do anything? In fact
 I have no problem with any of our MS infrastructure.
 Obviously *y*mmv...

yes I'm sure. You reminded me of a great quote I heard recently...

The biggest enemy of freedom is a happy slave.


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Re: [CentOS] Newbie

2009-01-26 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Hi I'm a linux newbie who has just switched from windows and I'd like
 to know weather or not there is a decent switching guide

I can't speak for which is decent, but a google search for:

how to switch from windows to linux

seems to get much better results than:

linux switching guide


the former search netted many many results, ranging from specific
switching guides by magazines, to personal experiences.

just keep in mind that most guides are targetted at one specific
distribution (whatever the author has chosen), but most of the concepts
and programs that they may potentially mention will be available
everywhere.

another hint is that a lot reference Ubuntu, which has a different
method of managing program installations.. Ubuntu guides will refer to
apt-get or Synaptic (I think that's what it's called -- Synaptic does
the same as apt-get except with a windowed interface, rather than via
command line).

CentOS (and redhat and fedora) use RPM. 

If a guide tells you to apt-get program, on CentOS, load a terminal
and type yum install program. Most program names are the same or
similar (yum search program will look for it but not install it).



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 update backlog

2009-01-12 Thread Spiro Harvey
 If more volunteers are needed I'm sure assistance could 
 be offered by the CentOS community.

you are either the world's best troll, or a complete moron. 

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Re: [CentOS] yum update fails: CentOS 5.2

2009-01-12 Thread Spiro Harvey
 tried deleting /var/lib/rpm/__* after killing all yum processes?

Yum has command line options to do its housecleaning which I would
try first. 

yum help clean


What does deleting the __db files do that the yum clean all doesn't?
(which I notice doesn't delete those specific files)

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 update backlog

2009-01-12 Thread Spiro Harvey
 So I need a @centos.org address to ask the obvious do I? If so 
 I missed your response to the post I made last month about 
 security updates missing for almost a month.

No, but the obvious link that you're not making is that you're not
actually offering the help. You have blatantly said in other posts such
things as:

If more volunteers are needed I'm sure assistance could be offered by
the CentOS community.

Can you show me where offers for assistance have been made and the
community declined?

You keep referring to the community, not to yourself. You are trying to
volunteer other people without trying to do anything yourself. If you
can't do it, then fine, but shut up. If you keep whining and offer to
do nothing to help, you're just being an unhelpful troll.

RP Herrold's comment about you not having a centos email address was in
reference to your call to arms (as per the first of your quotes above).
You're trying to volunteer people for this work which is not
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

2009-01-07 Thread Spiro Harvey
John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

[using google mail+calendar+etc]

 The advantages of doing it this way are no costs at all,


Actually you only get 25 users for free. After that you have to pay for
it. I'm using it on one of my domains and it's very very good, but too
low a limit for any decent sized business.

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

2009-01-07 Thread Spiro Harvey
  Actually you only get 25 users for free. After that you have to pay
  for it. I'm using it on one of my domains and it's very very good,
  but too low a limit for any decent sized business.
 does that apply to nonprofits like k12/edus ?

Can't answer that without making stuff up. :)

Mine's not registered as a company, though, just a personal account and
it has the 25 user restriction. 

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Re: [CentOS] Video lock up

2009-01-06 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Nvidia MX440 video
  Driver  nv

Unsure if Nvidia have a driver for this video card on their site, but
it might be worth checking out.

My Fedora box at home had the same issues with the nv driver and I
switched to the official nvidia driver and haven't had any problems
lately. 

Originally I noticed the problem surfaced with more regularity when
running WoW under Wine, but occassionally it would just freak out
randomly. I'm also using Compiz with many effects turned on, so that
could have pushed it over the edge sometimes too.. However, I don't play
WoW any more, so that may have something to do with the increase in
stability too, but Nvidia are releasing updates for it pretty regularly.

The downside is that every time a new kernel is released, you have to
re-run the nvidia setup program, so don't delete it.


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Re: [CentOS] LDAP Authentication to Lotus Domino?

2009-01-06 Thread Spiro Harvey
  base 

I don't really know too much about LDAP, and I know less about Lotus
Domino, so hopefully I'm not blowing in the wind, but shouldn't this
have something in it? Like dc=yourcompany,dc=com? Maybe with an
ou=people prepended to it so it knows to look in the right subtree?

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Re: [CentOS] Log File Reviewing

2009-01-05 Thread Spiro Harvey
 awk '$1 == word{print}' /var/log/messages

This example assumes that word is the first field and that it consists
only of word. If the first field is word1 this won't match.

Fixes for this are 

awk '$1 ~ word{print}'

(this matches any occurrance of word in the first field)

or:

awk '/^[[:space:]]*word/ {print}'

(this matches any line starting with whitespace followed immediately by
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Re: [CentOS] Log File Reviewing

2009-01-05 Thread Spiro Harvey
 [0-9]? I can do it using ^[[:space:]]*[0-9] but it also takes out
 lines w/o whitespace that begin with numbers?

to match one or more, use + instead of *.

* matches 0 or more, + matches 1 or more.

 I have to buy a book on RegEx's and Sed :)

http://www.gnu.org/manual/gawk/gawk.pdf

(G)awk is pretty sh!t hot where I work; however we've extended it a
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Re: [CentOS] Log File Reviewing

2009-01-05 Thread Spiro Harvey
 So gawk does all that sed does and more? I suppose I can start with

Can't really answer that. In 15 years of using UNIX systems, I've never
touched sed. :)

With Gawk's BEGIN and END blocks you can use it to write full
programs, which is kind of nice. 

 that in this case, I always wanted a book on regexe's so I think I
 am going to order O'Reilly's Mastering Regular Expressions, Third
 Edition. They also have a sed  awk, Second Edition book, but its 10+
 years old, does that matter, has sed/awk changed any since then?

The link I sent you is the 3rd edition of that book. Dated 2004. The
book (Effective AWK Programming) is available completely free, but is
also available in dead-tree editions. I printed and bound my PDF and
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Re: [CentOS] Log File Reviewing

2009-01-05 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Why not just start with perl which does more than sed/awk while using 
 similar syntax (if you want)?

This is why:

awk '/^[[:space:]]*word/ {print}' logfile

vs

perl -ne 'if (/^\s*word/) { print $_; }' logfile


Which syntax is likely to be easier to remember? 


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Re: [CentOS] Log File Reviewing

2009-01-05 Thread Spiro Harvey
Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't count on the same stability with python.  It has an annoying
 habit of changing syntax in non-backwards compatible ways with no

You seem to be hell-bent (excuse the pun) on turning this into a jihad
on scripting languages. Please take the credo of your own favoured
religion, sorry, language into account: There's more than one way to do
it.

Cope.


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Re: [CentOS] OT-ish: GPG problem

2009-01-04 Thread Spiro Harvey
Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 [snip] Fedora 9
 [snip] Fedora 10 
 [snip] Mandriva 2009
 [snip]
 Can anyone suggest further lines of enquiry?  Thanks

http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?q=linux+forums

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Re: [CentOS] vim helpfile tag issues

2008-12-17 Thread Spiro Harvey
 From the vi --debug output it seems obvious that vi reports the
 highest 
 included patch in the version. So what I think happened is that Red
 Hat started off from 7.0.109 and added patches upto 237.

ok, well, it's convinced me I'm not going slightly mad. :)

Thanks for your help, and to everyone else, thanks for the help and
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[CentOS] vim helpfile tag issues

2008-12-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
Just wondering if anyone can replicate this issue

On CentOS 5.2, using vim 7.0.237, I'm having a consistent issue across
all my centos boxen.

if I try and access the help files direct (as root), such as :help
tutor I get:

usr_01.txt.gz [readonly][noeol][converted] 11L, 4393C
E434: Can't find tag pattern
Press ENTER or type command to continue

If I press enter, it shows me what appears to be the output of a binary.

looking at that top line, it appears as if the help files are
compressed, and it can't read the tags within them. Is there a satellite
package I need to unpack or enable the ability for vim to decipher
these?

If I just type :help the status line reads:

help.txt [readonly] 214L, 7883C

which is ok, and the text file is displayed correctly.

Under Fedora 9, doing a :help tutor works correctly, and the status
line reads:

usr_01.txt.gz [readonly][noeol] 11L, 2914C

Note the different tag on the centos boxen [converted]..

Also, /usr/share/vim/vimxx/doc/ seem to be pretty similar (given that
Fed9 is vim7.1 and CentOS is 7.0) even the tags file looks ok on
both ends:

Fed9:
$ grep  tutor tags
sql-completion-tutorial sql.txt.gz  /*sql-completion-tutorial*
tutor   usr_01.txt.gz   /*tutor*
vimtutorusr_01.txt.gz   /*vimtutor*


CentOS 5.2:
# grep tutor tags
sql-completion-tutorial sql.txt.gz  /*sql-completion-tutorial*
tutor   usr_01.txt.gz   /*tutor*
vimtutorusr_01.txt.gz   /*vimtutor*


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Re: [CentOS] vim helpfile tag issues

2008-12-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
just as a followup, if I ungzip a file, and edit the tags file to
reflect the new name, it displays properly.

putting it back returns its state to the regular fubar.


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Re: [CentOS] vim helpfile tag issues

2008-12-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
  Is it me, or do you have a newer vim than CentOS is shipping ?
  [r...@rhun ~]# rpm -q vim-common
  vim-common-7.0.109-4.el5_2.4z
  Is it possible you messed something up yourself ?
 
 And before everyone gets on top of me for being rude. I can confirm
 this happens on 7.0.109 as well. Apparently it cannot handle zip
 files ?
 


well, that is interesting. I have my own repos for our in-house
software, but none of that is vim. all my vim installs are from
standard centos packages..


# rpm -qa | grep vim
vim-minimal-7.0.109-4.el5_2.4z
vim-common-7.0.109-4.el5_2.4z
vim-enhanced-7.0.109-4.el5_2.4z

# vim --version
VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 (2006 May 7, compiled Nov 25 2008 11:43:45)
Included patches: 1, 3-4, 7-9, 11, 13-17, 19-26, 29-31, 34-44, 47,
50-56, 58-64, 66-73, 75, 77-92, 94-107, 109, 202, 234-235, 237 
Modified by bugzi...@redhat.com 
Compiled by bugzi...@redhat.com
[snipped extra stuff]


and if I enter the binary just by typing vim or vi the splash
screen tells me: version 7.0.237

the vim and vi binaries are both from different packages and are quite
different:

[r...@web1 doc]# ls -lad $(which vi)
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 593160 Nov 26 05:44 /bin/vi
[r...@web1 doc]# ls -lad $(which vim)
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2723516 Nov 26 05:44 /usr/bin/vim

vim comes from vim-enhanced, and vi comes from vim-minimal.


ah, I wasn't as thorough as I thought. :)

vi exhibits the faulty behaviour, while vim works correctly with
the compressed help files..




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Re: [CentOS] vim helpfile tag issues

2008-12-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I think this is normal behaviour for 'vi' as it does not support
 gzipped help pages. Seems the case for RHEL too, so it is not
 specific to CentOS. You might want to to check the same on Fedora
 too ?

yes, it seems you're right.. I just figured that out in another post
coming the list's way. :)

and under Fedora as root, it exhibits exactly the same behaviour. 

I'm still curious about the discrepencies in the version numbers, does
yours come up with conflicting numbers on the splash screen?

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Re: [CentOS] pop3 attack

2008-12-10 Thread Spiro Harvey
  define(`SMART_HOST',`smtp-server.carolina.rr.com')dnl
  MASQUERADE_AS(carolina.rr.com)dnl
 Or switch to postfix. I plunked relayhost =
 smtp-server.roadrunner.com into main.cf  away it went.

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Re: [CentOS] pop3 attack

2008-12-10 Thread Spiro Harvey
  why change software just because one configuration line is
  different?
 Main point was the RR relay host works.

So your solution is to change software?

Wouldn't it be smarter to figure out what the problem actually is?
Because as you say, the RR host doesn't appear to be the problem. So if
he changed software, what are the chances that his problem will still
exist? Pretty high I imagine.

Even if it turns out the RR host *is* the problem, what would he
achieve in changing software?

Let me do the math: zero, multiplied by zero, carry the zero...


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Re: [CentOS] pop3 attack

2008-12-10 Thread Spiro Harvey
 It's simpler for non-experts to change the postfix configuration than
 to change the sendmail configuration. So, why shouldn't he not
 suggest it?

because it's stupid, lazy advice.


1: it's easy for non-experts to edit the sendmail configuration too...
as long as they're editing the mc file, not the cf.

2: changing software doesn't help solve the problem.

3: what if he has a bunch of milters or related programs that rely on
sendmail? are they all available for postfix? what needs to be changed
to match his current environment? have you thought about that? has
anyone asked James that before recommending he changes his software? 




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Re: [CentOS] Running on 8G CF card

2008-12-09 Thread Spiro Harvey
 dmesg isn't a file, its a program thats dumping the kernel message 
 buffer.   how do you live 'tail' it?

look in /var/log


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Re: [CentOS] mysql question

2008-12-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Do you know any good mysql mailing list?

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=mysql+mailing+list

 I have question what is the different between 
 /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
 /var/lib/mysql/mysqld.sock

I have very little knowledge of mysql, but my understanding is it's
just a naming convention. CentOS uses mysql.sock for its mysqld
service, and some other distributions use mysqld.sock.

It's just another method applications use to connect to mysql.

look at /etc/my.cnf to see where yours is configured to be.

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Re: [CentOS] iptables-save: INPUT DROP [26:8260]

2008-12-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
Robert answered the first question...

 And what does *filter mean?

It's the table name. filter is the name of the default table. The
other table name you may see in common use is nat.



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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] My God, it is full of stars

2008-12-01 Thread Spiro Harvey
  Everybody else: Send even more mails! The infrastructure for that
  is here now!
 Please do not awake the gods of spam !

Lucky you told us, I was just about to start my spam-dance to see if
the gods would bestow more emails upon us.

The goat thanks you for saving his life too.

I don't know what I'm going to do with this alter though...

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] My God, it is full of stars

2008-12-01 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Perhaps you can alter it into an altar

:) that was my keyboard's fault. It can't spell.

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Re: [CentOS] python issue?

2008-11-24 Thread Spiro Harvey
 from gtk import _gtk
 ImportError: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2: undefined symbol:
 FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden
 Any clues?

http://www.google.com/search?q=FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden

given the prefix of FT and by having a quick look at the first google
result, it looks like a freetype issue.

what does:

rpm -qa | grep freetype

give you?

there's a freetype and a freetype-devel package. You may need both.

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Re: [CentOS] Installer stopped short

2008-10-29 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I just tried to install a CentOS 5 desktop on very recent hardware,
 an Acer desktop machine. The installer stopped short very early. I

How early is very early? Did it stop before the first Welcome to Centos
screen, or did you get to disk partitioning? Knowing exactly where it
dies can be useful. Also, scan the disc to see if that's naffed and
causing grief.

When CentOS is installing you can press Alt-F2 - Alt-F4 (Ctrl-Alt
if you're in gui mode) and there should be a few different screens of
logs. Do any of those provide insight into where it's failing, or what
it last tried to do?


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4.7 Server CD - update frontpage

2008-10-29 Thread Spiro Harvey
I know it's going farther off the beaten topic here, but just received
this email of warm wishes from our friend Spike Turner that I thought
I'd share.

It's not even necessary to insult him, he's done it all for himself.




On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:21 -0700 (PDT)
Spike Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Spiro Harvey wrote:
 
  Your comments were not constructive criticism. You're
  just a whiny
  little punk who can dish it out but gets upset when
  it's flung back in
  your direction.
  
  Grow up.
 
 If you were within reach I would punch you and you
 would spit all your teeth out. Having done martial arts
 and powerlifting, dealing with a punk like yourself would 
 not be a problem.
 
 Spike.
 
 
   
 


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Re: [CentOS] boot problems

2008-10-27 Thread Spiro Harvey
 cd i boot from centos boot cd n go to rescue mode and check grub

could you please use entire words instead of txt talking? In this
sentence you use cd to mean could and compact disc. It's very
confusing and when you make people's brains hurt reading your message,
we're not very inclined to waste our time.

On a computer you have access to a full keyboard. Please use it and
stop being lazy.


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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I also note that moderation comes in 2 forms...the first being when
 one of the CentOS developers says stop this thread which is irregular,

and you'll also notice that this never works. the thread typically
degenerates into the yay-sayers and the nay-sayers, which actually
produces *more* noise.

This is not moderation. No threads are ever deleted or locked, even if
it were possible.

But instead of filling the list with lots of please read the f'n
rules followed by polite responses, if the lists were split into two
distinct categories -- one for general help, one for more technical
problems -- then this would cut down the overall noise because posters
would have a better understanding of what each list was for and could
target their queries more appropriately. In a general help list
tangential problems would then be appropriate so the moderation
wouldn't exist, or at least, not be as heavy handed.

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
 A driveby waste of space post was one by a certain Karanbir
 telling someone to recklessly upgrade Gnome when this is supposed
 to be an enterprise distro.

well, if they're running Gnome, then they're probably not using the
machine in an enterprise capacity. nobody in their right mind would
install X on a server.


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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
  Given the overall poor reception of the idea, I'd just put it on
  the back burner for now...
 yes, thats sounding like a good idea for the time being.

I don't think it is a good idea. I think that we need two separate
lists. One for general users, one for server sysadmins.

What we don't know from all the people against splitting the
list is in what capacity they are using CentOS. Are they desktop users?
Are they running their own home network? Are they small-time sysadmins?
Are they managing a Tier 1 ISP?

I would hazard a guess and say that most of the people who are
pro-split are people managing bigger networks, and possibly have more
experience with linux/unix. I am certainly in this category and I would
like to see a new list on the basis that I don't care about typical
general chatter or newbie problems. 

It's also my experience that if you ask people what they want, they
will be reluctant to change, just on principle. Make the change for
them and they'll adapt (albeit after a bit of whining).

Perhaps another idea would be to have a sysadmin list that is actually
moderated. But I think you should split the lists if you want to. It's
not a democracy, as has been mentioned. This is your sandpit. 

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal - meaningless

2008-10-16 Thread Spiro Harvey
 Really? What about SLED (Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop) or
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop? 

Marketing terms for IT managers and non-technical decision makers.



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Re: [CentOS] OT: is parted reliable?

2008-10-15 Thread Spiro Harvey
 I'm beginning to understand why Vandaman was so stiff about his
 responses, and the more BS we allow in, the more we'll get.

And then those who genuinely need the help will be lost in a sea of
random threads.

Mailing lists need to be reigned in a bit tighter; for those of you
wanting to talk about random stuff, or wanting to talk about
tangential topics, you should be visiting forums like
linuxforums.org. 

The argument of choose what you read is garbage in my opinion as
mailing lists are a pull medium. Subscribers are receiving all
messages. They don't get a say in that unless they completely
unsubscribe. On forums, you can pick and choose at your leisure. That's
the point of them.


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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Spiro Harvey
  'centos-tech' list.
 If there is a general feeling that this would help, then we will go 
 ahead and setup the new list in the next few days.

I think this would be a good idea.

you have my vote.

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Spiro Harvey
Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I favor one-stop shopping.
 My $0.02

I favour quality over quantity, and I have $2 to spend. :)

Forums are one-stop shops, and even they have different sub-forums that
categorise conversations. 


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Re: [CentOS] creating a user from an RPM package

2008-10-14 Thread Spiro Harvey
nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From the postifx srpm..

thanks. and to you Ian; looks like useradd is the standard way. :)

clamav uses it too.


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