Re: [CentOS] strange su behavior

2010-03-10 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Am 09.03.2010 22:22, schrieb Tom H:
 Do you have any sudo call from your /etc or /etc/skel bashrc or 
 profile...?
 Yes, I do have in /etc/bashrc:
 sudo -l
 Unless you already understood:
   su -  make the shell a login shell
   so sudo -l  in bashrc is executed, which asks for the user's password
 Understood, who is asking - not understood why sudo -l is asking for
 the password and why just hitting the enter key works
 
 sudo -l
 lists the commands that you are allowed to run with sudo

That is clear to me, but why does this command request the password?
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Re: [CentOS] strange su behavior

2010-03-10 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Am 10.03.2010 18:26, schrieb Tony Schreiner:
 
 On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Uwe Kiewel wrote:
 
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 Am 09.03.2010 22:22, schrieb Tom H:
 Do you have any sudo call from your /etc or /etc/skel bashrc or  
 profile...?
 Yes, I do have in /etc/bashrc:
 sudo -l
 Unless you already understood:
  su -  make the shell a login shell
  so sudo -l  in bashrc is executed, which asks for the user's  
 password
 Understood, who is asking - not understood why sudo -l is asking  
 for
 the password and why just hitting the enter key works

 sudo -l
 lists the commands that you are allowed to run with sudo

 That is clear to me, but why does this command request the password?
 
 what's the output of
 
 sudo grep root /etc/sudoers
 

## the root user, without needing the root password.
## Allow root to run any commands anywhere
rootALL=(ALL)   ALL
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Re: [CentOS] strange su behavior

2010-03-10 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Am 10.03.2010 20:23, schrieb Tom H:
 Do you have any sudo call from your /etc or /etc/skel bashrc or 
 profile...?
 Yes, I do have in /etc/bashrc:
 sudo -l
 
 Unless you already understood:
   su -  make the shell a login shell
   so sudo -l  in bashrc is executed, which asks for the user's password
 
 Understood, who is asking - not understood why sudo -l is asking for
 the password and why just hitting the enter key works
 
 sudo -l
 lists the commands that you are allowed to run with sudo
 
 That is clear to me, but why does this command request the password?
 
 Do you have rootpw/runaspw/targetpw set in /etc/sudoers?

No, I don't have. What I want to have is: None-root users shall be
allowed to run some commands as root whithout password. And, on logging
on, the users shall see, what commands they are able to run.

Thanks,
Uwe
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Re: [CentOS] strange su behavior

2010-03-09 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Am 09.03.2010 17:32, schrieb John Doe:
 From: Uwe (ML) Kiewel m...@kiewel-online.ch
 Do you have any sudo call from your /etc or /etc/skel bashrc or profile...?
 Yes, I do have in /etc/bashrc:
 sudo -l
 
 Unless you already understood:
   su -  make the shell a login shell
   so sudo -l  in bashrc is executed, which asks for the user's password
 

Understood, who is asking - not understood why sudo -l is asking for
the password and why just hitting the enter key works

Thanks,
Uwe
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[CentOS] strange su behavior

2010-03-08 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Hi,

I have a strange su hehavior on a CentOS 5.4 32Bit installation in a
VMware ESXi virtualizied environment:

If I am root and want to change the user to a non-root user, the system
prompts me for a password:


[r...@halifax ~]# useradd test00
[r...@halifax ~]# su - test00


We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.
#3) With great power comes great responsibility.

Password:

[tes...@halifax ~]$ logout
[r...@halifax ~]# su - test00
[tes...@halifax ~]$ logout
[r...@halifax ~]#


At this test procedure I just hit the enter key at the password promt.


Do you have any idea for this behavoir? I expect to do so from root to
any account _without_ being prompted for the password.

Thanks,
Uwe
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Re: [CentOS] strange su behavior

2010-03-08 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Am 08.03.2010 21:21, schrieb John R Pierce:
 Uwe Kiewel wrote:
 [r...@halifax ~]# useradd test00
 [r...@halifax ~]# su - test00


 We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
 Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

 #1) Respect the privacy of others.
 #2) Think before you type.
 #3) With great power comes great responsibility.

 Password:
 ...
 
 that almost sounds like sudo, not su.   is it aliased or something?
 

I don't think so:

[r...@halifax ~]# type su
su is hashed (/bin/su)

[r...@halifax ~]# file /bin/su
/bin/su: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1
(SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped

[r...@halifax ~]# type sudo
sudo is /usr/bin/sudo

[r...@halifax ~]# file /usr/bin/sudo
/usr/bin/sudo: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version
1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped

[r...@halifax ~]# sum /bin/su
2249424

[r...@halifax ~]# sum /usr/bin/sudo
63311   138


Thanks,
Uwe
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Re: [CentOS] strange su behavior

2010-03-08 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Am 08.03.2010 22:03, schrieb Dan Burkland:

 [r...@halifax ~]# useradd test00
 [r...@halifax ~]# su - test00
 
 
 We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
 Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:
 
 #1) Respect the privacy of others.
 #2) Think before you type.
 #3) With great power comes great responsibility.
 
 Password:
 
 [tes...@halifax ~]$ logout
 [r...@halifax ~]# su - test00
 [tes...@halifax ~]$ logout
 [r...@halifax ~]#
 
 
 At this test procedure I just hit the enter key at the password promt.
 
 
 Do you have any idea for this behavoir? I expect to do so from root to
 any account _without_ being prompted for the password.
 

 Have you tried just running su without the dash and space before the 
 username? (For example: su test00). If not try that and let us know if you 
 receive the same result.

Same result:

[r...@halifax ~]# su test00

Password:

[tes...@halifax root]$ exit
[r...@halifax ~]#

- -- 
Thanks,
Uwe
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Re: [CentOS] strange su behavior

2010-03-08 Thread Uwe Kiewel
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Am 09.03.2010 02:16, schrieb Spiro Harvey:
 On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:28:44 +0100
 Uwe Kiewel m...@kiewel-online.ch wrote:
 
 that almost sounds like sudo, not su.   is it aliased or something?
 I don't think so:
 [r...@halifax ~]# file /bin/su
 
 You've confirmed it's not symlinked, but is it aliased?
 
 Type alias and see the result.
 

[r...@halifax ~]# alias
alias cp='cp -i'
alias l.='ls -d .* --color=tty'
alias ll='ls -l --color=tty'
alias ls='ls --color=tty'
alias mv='mv -i'
alias rm='rm -i'
alias which='alias | /usr/bin/which --tty-only --read-alias --show-dot
- --show-tilde'


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Re: [CentOS] server is always getting hacked

2009-06-28 Thread Uwe Kiewel
Alan McKay schrieb:
 Open up sshd port only

Restrict the access to 22/tcp (ssh) and permit relay required hosts only

Uwe
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