Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 update backlog
R P Herrold wrote: R P Herrold wrote: ... you do NOT file bugs in the bug tracker to make formal your concern. I made last month about security updates missing for almost a month. no bug - no issue. Members of the CentOS community should, in a free world be able to ask valid questions aand offer to volunteer if that is needed. Off course some don't live in the free world so its unfortunate. yawn ... I still missed that bug number, 'volunteer' For the benefit of the CentOS community at large and those following this interesting conversation by slashdotting or on blogs across teh web, it would be helpful if you clarified a few things and also pointed out the bugs filed against CentOS 5 for the previous weeks updates :- 1. where is the requirement written on wiki.centos.org or centos.org that bugs have to be filed against upstream errata for CentOS to provide any updates? 2. What are the bug numbers filed for CentOS 5 so that the updates could be pushed out? 3. Given that last months updates were a month late, where are the bug numbers filed against those, because the updates eventually made it. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS 4 update backlog
There are security updates upstream for CentOS (4 and 5) and it looks like the CentOS 5 ones have been rebuilt and rolled out. How come the CentOS 4 branch lags behind, or are the CentOS 5 devs different from the CentOS 4 devs? If more volunteers are needed I'm sure assistance could be offered by the CentOS community. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 update backlog
William Warren wrote: how about you doing something to help instead of acting like an emperor..which by the way has no clothes and no throne. I don't see why people have got their knickers in a twist over a simple question. Was it not me who noticed updates were missing for nearly a month? http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-December/069732.html Looking at upstream errata those look like updates http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel4.7.z-as-errata.html I'm sure there are plenty of people who run CentOS in production and going without security updates for a month is not ideal. Many would offer to help were any offers for help made. Can you show me where offers for assistance have been made and the community declined? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 update backlog
R P Herrold wrote: You hold no @centos.org, nor role beyond mailing list participant. A non-enumerated list is worse than useless, as it falsely causes concern. So near as I can tell (and I read ALL bug filings, centdor-sec, and a daily custom locally produced report of all upstream produced updates), you do NOT file bugs in the bug tracker to make formal your concern. You talk, just to make noise. So I need a @centos.org address to ask the obvious do I? If so I missed your response to the post I made last month about security updates missing for almost a month. Members of the CentOS community should, in a free world be able to ask valid questions aand offer to volunteer if that is needed. Off course some don't live in the free world so its unfortunate. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Guidelines for CentOS Mailing List posts
David Mackintosh wrote: From: david.mackint...@xdroop.com david.mackint...@xdroop.com On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:14:22AM +, Vandaman wrote: Its not the time to be nannying people over how to behave on mailing list. /irony What is your contribution to the topic? Or are you one of those who has been top-posting and posting in html? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] After BIND update owner changed and restart failed
Kai Schaetzl wrote: I had named.conf with root.root (and it was working). That got changed by the update to root.named. Which apparently is the correct ownership according to you and it still works. When I installed bind just a few weeks ago I had to create all the files manually as there were none. So, that's why that file was root.root. I didn't notice that before but I see that there are a lot of errors already before the update: Jan 11 16:38:00 chacha named[11307]: client 192.168.1.228#1994: view internal: update 'bolera.lan/IN' denied I don't need updates (and I think clients are not configured to try to update). Can you tell me how I can fix this? (If I wanted to allow updates and if I wanted to have this functionality not available at all.) You are not making any sense at all. Are you asking a question? If so I missed it. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Guidelines for CentOS Mailing List posts
David Mackintosh wrote: irrelevant banter Would you like the joke explained to you in more detail? What time will your mummy come home. You should not be playing on a mailing list like this. :-) We have the serious business of CentOS to talk about. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Guidelines for CentOS Mailing List posts
Some people don't know how to conduct themselves on usenet and mailing lists. Despite the mailing list guidelines being crystal clear about no html posting and not top-posting we have people still doing so. People still use text-readers to access the mailing list so you could be denying access to these people by flouting the mailing list guidelines. This is an example of top-posting http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-January/070494.html There are legitimate newbies who top-post because they know no different and can acquaint themselves with the mailing list guidelines at http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16 Maybe the guidelines can updated to say trimming of emails as well and maybe link to examples on Wikipedia of top-posting and bottom-posting. Newbies aside, there are guys still top-posting who have ignored polite offlist messages not to top-post. Its not the time to be nannying people over how to behave on mailing list. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?
Warren, Eucke wrote:
I do see the manual fix for it and will be testing that
shortly. I am,
however, dealing with a fairly rigid internal legal
department that may
not welcome a fix that's not
official. So I have two questions:
1) Is there an official or accepted
way to inquire about the status
of an open bug?
2) With regard to bug 0002329 is this something that has to
be fixed
upstream so it filters down to centos?
What company is this that doesn't wan't to pay for a support
contract for RHEL but insists on using CentOS but requires
official fixes only?
1. Can you name and shame this comapany it will make good reading
on teh web.
2. Consider paying for RHEL so that you can actually get
official support and can raise support tickets.
3. You probably don't understand what CentOS is or who is supposed
to use it.
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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?
Per Qvindesland wrote:
If you want a official fix then get your self a redhat
license, nothing
wrong with the excellent help that one can get from this
list but by
supporting redhat you also in my eyes support centos.
The only thing that I have noticed with RH support is that
they are actually
slower to release a fix or to come up with a fix then
Centos, we have quite
a few centos servers where I work and this was the reason
for why we lowered
our licenses to redhat and migrated some servers to Centos.
You might want to read up on why top-posting is disallowed on
many mailing lists. Even after sending you a polite offlist
reminder and a link to the guidelines you are still top-posting.
With regard to your wrong claim that upstream support is slower
to release a fix than CentOS I would ask you the following simple
question :-
1. What is CentOS and where does it come from?
2. Which fix is this that CentOS released before upstream?
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Re: [CentOS] RH devel kernels for Centos repo
David Hrbáč wrote:
RH devel kernel from http://people.redhat.com/vgoyal/rhel4
and built
against Centos tree are available here:
http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb-kernel/stable/x86_64/repodata/
http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb-kernel/stable/i386/repodata/
I would guess what was said by Dag here
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-January/070168.html
applies here as well?
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Re: [CentOS] Yum Issue.. Installing Older Package Version
Tim Nelson wrote:
Hello fellow CentOS'ers-
I'm trying to install a package from a not-to-be-named
repository (privately operated for some proprietary
software). They currently have a package I need but offer
multiple versions. However, if I simply 'yum install
packagename' it defaults to pulling down the most recent
package. I would like to pull down the older version of the
package but I'm unable to do so.
So, how would you specify version number for a package with
two candidates but the same name? I'm at a loss... :-(
Why would the admin of the un-named repo include two versions
unless one could be an update/bugfix? Did you try asking the
admin of that repo? For example here is bash from base and
update on CentOS 4
bash-3.0-19.7.i386.rpm 27-Jul-2008 03:30 1.7M
bash-3.0-19.7.el4_7.1.i386.rpm 20-Oct-2008 14:53 1.7M
Tim Nelson I rather liked your sig in
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-January/070282.html
Wink :-)
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Re: [CentOS] RH devel kernels for Centos repo
Dag Wieers wrote: I would personally recommend to use the upstream kernels from Red Hat instead. My main motivation is that if you need to report a problem, you can do so directly to Red Hat without risking it to be a specific rebuild problem. If those are just 5.3 beta kernels then it is best to just use the upstream ones to fix any immediate issues and avoid repackaging issues. Perhaps the OP David Hrbáč's talents can be utilised elsewhere in CentOS such as php which people ask for and they are told it is in testing for 5 years? Regards, Vandaman. --- Your average reporting time is: 4 hours; Great! noob detector - 3 noobs top posting. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT-ish: GPG problem
Anne Wilson wrote: There is some obscure bug that probably interacts with something else to cause this - it's certainly not normal behaviour. I've talked to several people with quite deep knowledge of KMail (over a period of 8 months), yet no-one could tell me why this occurs. In fact, until Chris contacted me about his problem on a Mandriva install I had thought that the bug was only in the Fedora package. Now it seems that it may not be. Have you thought of going to the upstream mailing list of gpg or kmail and asking there? If the problem is not distro-specific it is likely to have been met by someone upstream. It would also be worth giving the Fedora/Mandriva lists a look to see if the problem has been reported there. If the problem has not been reported upstream or in those distros then it is likely to be something you have done. Regards, Vandaman. --- Your average reporting time is: 4 hours; Great! noob detector - 3 noobs top posting. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RH devel kernels for Centos repo
Vnpenguin wrote: Is this safe to use ? You are not obliged to use them. If you are happy with the CentOS or CentOSplus Kernel then you do not need to install those. There are rare occasions when people have issues, they file against upstream bugzilla and a test kernel is recommended. It goes without saying that the kernels are unsupported by both CentOS and upstream. Regards, Vandaman. --- Your average reporting time for spam is: 5 hours; Great! noob detector - 3 noobs top posting. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Test - please ignore
Anne Wilson wrote: blank Hi, Welcome to CentOS. What can we do you for? Regards, Vandaman. --- Your average reporting time for spam is: 5 hours; Great! noob detector - 3 noobs top posting. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Upgrade from 4.7 to 5.2 problem with udev and ssl
Thomas Dukes tdu...@sc.rr.com wrote: Got cocky and decided to upgrade from from 4.7 to 5.2. Have a couple problems I can't figure out. Was that upgrade using anaconda or yum? Hadn't you thought of backing up and doing a clean install of 5.2? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 2 internet connections and one for backup
MHR wrote: PS (yeah, yeah, I know) especially to Mr. Vandaman: I've noticed that a lot of your postings are fairly concise, or one might say clipped. I gather that this is how you post, and this is not a criticism, just an observation: most people, especially us annoying colonists, perceive clipped as being rude, even if it is not intended to be. An extra word or two to soften the blow can often help. An extra word or two? I actually did more than that and sent a polite offlist message to about a dozen newbies with full details and a link to the mailing list guidelines. There was even a regular poster who had top-posted and when he queried offlist I sent him a link to what he had done and there was no reply. So if someone is now top-posting after all that, even you may agree it is over the top. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2.x rpm for Centos 5? (any news)
Peter Hopfgartner wrote: Building the PHP source rpms from Fedora 10 should work fine. We use them for our servers. Rebuilding source RPMs is extremly easy. It is even easier to just use the rpms in centos testing see this post http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-December/069841.html You may also wish to read up on why top-posting is not allowed on many mailing lists this one included. Regarads, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Fasttrack Repo on CentOS 4
Johnny Hughes wrote: As I have stated before, CentOS does not maintain the fastrack repo for all the versions we release. IN fact ... it is only maintained (to the best of my knowledge) by me on CentOS-4 i386 and x86_64. Fast track is something that was added later by upstream ... as such it requires changes to existing packages to roll in. Contrib was rolled in at the beginning of CentOS, so it was designed with that already in there. I agree with you though for the benefit of those who may not be aware, this post by the upstream QE Manager illustrates what the fasttrack channel entails https://www.redhat.com/archives/nahant-list/2006-April/msg3.html Fasttrack packages should make it into the next Quarterly Update so with time they join into the main repo. I am certainly open to do things that makes CentOS better and I have no problems making changes that are convenient, but I also do not think that downloading a text file for an added repo is that difficult. I did not download the file because I thought it was easier to hack it into the existing CentOS-Base.repo file. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-December/069850.html The reason I asked on the mailing list was not because I did not want to download a separate txt file, but if the CentOS 4 branch is running in a certain way, it makes it easier if those newly joining and those established carry on the old path. Certainly from CentOS 4.8 it would be easier to slot it into the main CentOS-Base.repo file and then ship with it disabled. For now people could just download the text file. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 2 internet connections and one for backup
Bob Taylor wrote: Guys, you're on a two way street. Having said that, it happens you're both right and you're both wrong. I post on several mailing lists and have never seen any jackass become abusive because he does not want to follow the guidelines of that mailing list. Have you seen any yourself? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Fasttrack Repo on CentOS 4
A quick question on the fasttrack repo which is now up to date with upstream. Why is the fasttrack repo not in the main CentOS-Base.repo file but contrib which has never had anything is included in the main CentOS-Base.repo file? The goal of CentOS is to be binary-compatible with upstream so fasttrack is more important in this regard than contrib. Upsteam ships with the main channels as well as fasttrack. As CentOS includes the repos in one repo file rather than having separate files, this tradition should be considered for fasttrack as well. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 2 internet connections and one for backup
Mariusz wrote: thanks for reply, i want only outgoing so i'll check below link You are still flouting the rules of posting on the mailing list even after I sent you a polite offlist message not to top-post. Read the following link on how to post on the CentOS list. http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16 Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Missing CentOS 4.7 update?
Ned Slider wrote: The links in the CentOS-Fasttrack section on the Wiki are broken. Does anyone know the correct links so I (or someone) can fix them? Specifically: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/fasttrack/Readme.txt http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/fasttrack/CentOS-fasttrack.repo Wait for the devs to confirm but I hacked together a line and added it to CentOS-Base.repo (instead of a separate fastrack.repo) file which is missing from the mirror. [fasttrack] name=CentOS-4 - fasttrack mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=$basearchrepo=fasttrack #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/fasttrack/$basearch/ gpgcheck=1 enabled=1 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-centos4 priority=1 Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing RHEL5.3
Alain PORTAL wrote: Hi, As I can start X on Centos 5.2, can somebody explain me how to install RHEL 5.3 pre-release or give me a pointer that explain how to do? ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/RHEL5.3/ I should want to know if I'll can install Centos 5.3 ;-) Regards, Alain -- Les pages de manuel Linux en français http://manpagesfr.free.fr/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos 1. wait for a public beta 2. get a RHN account and download immediately. There is some more info here https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-announce/2008-October/msg0.html Betas are not meant for production machines BTW or for upgrades to the final version. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing RHEL5.3
Alain PORTAL alain.por...@free.fr wrote: 1. wait for a public beta Are you sure beta can be public ? Just google for Red Hat Releases RHEL 4 Public Beta. I'm not saying that this is the case here but you need to either have a RHN account with entitlements or to wait for a public beta (which may be unlikely for a point release). I know, I just want to test it as I can't start X with 5.2. If you are having problems with 5.2 then address these problems immediately without waiting for 5.3. How do you address them? File bugs or ask questions relating to your existing problem but 5.3 beta is unable to solve them automagically for you. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Experimental RPM Squid Packages for EL4/EL5
I posted on the squid-users mailing list and also CC'd the upstream developer in case he wasn't subscribed. He replied and updated his page on http://people.redhat.com/mnagy/squid/ You can follow the full conversation at http://marc.info/?t=12290847625r=1w=2 Are there any plans for any other squid versions in CentOS plus? Any other repos/sources you know of with EL4/EL5 squid rpms? Is there a CentOS dev with any experimental packages? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] wine 1.1.10 rpm for centos
Karanbir Singh wrote: at one point in the past WinHQ's release process included rpms for EL4/EL5 - is that no longer the case ? If not, perhaps they could do with a hand in the release process itself ( which might be a good way for you to get involved perhaps ? ) Would you be able to investigate this a bit further ? Wine's stable downloads for RHEL/CentOS/Fedora have always been at http://www.winehq.org/download/ Latest stable release: Wine 1.0.1 Latest development release: Wine 1.1.10 Before you could download rpms directly from that page, now you need EPEL repo and then do yum install wine. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP5 on CentOS4.7?
Rudi Ahlers wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if CentOS 4.7 will support PHP5 natively? I have searched centos.org site, but can't see anything related to this? Are you completely new to CentOS and are unaware of where to look for stuff http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/centosplus/i386/RPMS/ Even yum search foo will yield results from a default CentOS 4 install (assuming CentOS Plus is enabled in the default install). Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] wine 1.1.10 rpm for centos
dnk wrote: has anyone come across a wine 1.1.10 RPM? Searching all the usual places. How would you expect something WineHQ describes as a development release only out a few days to have as you call it a rpm for CentOS available? What's new in this version of wine? Do IE, Media player work out of the box? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Centos 4.7 httpd error messages
I have the following error messages on a CentOS server. Googling did not identify the error. [Wed Dec 10 09:22:02 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down No log handling enabled - turning on stderr logging Cannot find module (IP-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (IF-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (TCP-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (UDP-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (HOST-RESOURCES-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMPv2-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMPv2-SMI): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (NOTIFICATION-LOG-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (UCD-SNMP-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (UCD-DEMO-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMP-TARGET-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (NET-SNMP-AGENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (UCD-DISKIO-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (LM-SENSORS-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (DISMAN-EVENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (IPV6-ICMP-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (IPV6-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (IPV6-TCP-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (IPV6-UDP-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMP-VIEW-BASED-ACM-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMP-COMMUNITY-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (UCD-DLMOD-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMP-FRAMEWORK-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMP-MPD-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMP-USER-BASED-SM-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMP-NOTIFICATION-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module (SNMPv2-TM): At line 0 in (none) Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.7 httpd error messages
Dirk H. Schulz wrote: This does not look like httpd errors. These are missing MIBs, presumably you have installed and (mis)configured NetSNMP. Dirk That is from /var/log/httpd/error_log I have not installed and misconfigured NetSNMP Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Missing grub functionality on CentOS 5
Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vandaman wrote on Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:22:03 + (GMT): The CentOS 4 grub is not the same as the CentOS 5 grub. Right, I was on the wrong machine for checking the version. But this is not the point of my posting, it's irrelevant. ;-) Suggest reading full posting before replies. I would suggest also :- 1. you stop acting like a smartass on this list 2. you check and recheck your facts. You posted an obvious bogus claim about grub on centos 4. 3. RTFM Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Missing /etc/log/rpmpkgs
Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On one system I am missing /etc/log/rpmpkgs I believe that this file is updated by some cron job, and maybe I just have not had this system powered up at the right time for the job to run. Though I had thought that if a job was scheduled for a time the computer was off, it would run sometime soon (with some definition of 'soon') once the system was on again. On another system, I have /etc/log/rpmpkgs, but a rpm I installed from the karan testing repo is shown installed in /etc/log/yum.log but not in rpmpkgs. Are you using slackware or gentoo? The logs are located in /var/log/ unless you are using some other non-redhat distro. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Red Hat réagit à la crise économiqu e (oops)
Fabian Arrotin wrote: No problem .. in fact i believe you wanted to post it to the centos-fr lists :D I thought Ralph's invitation to spammers was accepted and they had taken his challenge. :-) Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Suggested yum priorities settings for 3rd party repos
In the yum priorities page on the wiki Akemi Yagi suggests http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities [base], [addons], [updates], [extras] ... priority=1 [centosplus],[contrib] ... priority=2 Third Party Repos ... priority=N (where N is 10 and based on your preference) If you have rpmforge, kbs, epel all set up at 10 then wouldn't those also potentially overwrite each other if the same package exists in all of them? Who has got several 3rd party repos and what are your yum priority for those? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages
Darrell Betts wrote: Now my question is what are the commands for Centos to fetch ,update and install, all the packages installed on the server. I would like to use Yum. Any help would be great. Try yum --help and man yum which have a lot of info. Also the CentOS docs on http://www.centos.org/docs/ has yum docs. So if you for just install CentOS 4.7 from the ServerCD and do # yum check-update it will give you a list of packages to be updated, which you can do by # yum update and then say yes or no. Welcome to CentOS BTW. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Suggested yum priorities settings for 3rd party repos
Akemi Yagi wrote: One of my systems have these entries: rpmforge.repo:priority=40 kbsingh-CentOS-Extras.repo:priority=50 kbsingh-CentOS-Misc.repo:priority=50 atrpms.repo:priority=85 epel.repo:priority=90 CentOS-Testing.repo:priority=99 (not a complete list) I do use different sets of numbers depending on what a given system runs. In addition to the priority scores, use of exclude= etc is also important if you aim at getting certain packages from a repository of your choice. It is this exclude=foo that I'm interested in. If you have the setup you have described, then one would not need exclude as the yum priority should take care of versions shouldn't it? If you have say webmin from webmin.com and there is webmin in all those repos then it might be good to use exclude but shouldn't the plugin handle versions between repos? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated
Ross Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's most obvious you have no idea what you are talking about, so if you prefer Ubuntu over CentOS then please move along, we need no trolls here. Agreed. The guy seems to be a poorly informed loudmouth. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Then again Redhat guys have not yet commented about planned features for RHEL6.. Quite a few people appear to be quite insecure on the basis of what they think is/is not going to happen. The bottom line is crystal-ball gazing should be left alone and people should work with what's available in CentOS. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Enterprise Package Tracker
Is there a utility such as rpmfind that exists for enterprise rpms? One could locate rpms from various repos e.g. - Centos base, extras, plus - EPEL - RPMForge - KBS repos Due to the requirement of a subscription, upstream or others like Oracle Unbreakable linux couldn't be listed. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Enterprise Package Tracker
Joseph L. Casale wrote: How does #yum list name not work *if* the repo is added to your list? Is that how rpmfind works? http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ What packages are available for CentOS and third party repos without having the .repo files installed? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated
Ned Slider wrote: Which is why I originally wrote... *Some* are interpreting this... as an indication that xen will be dropped from RHEL6 as they direct their efforts towards KVM. *If* xen is not included in RHEL6 then it will, by definition, be deprecated in favour of KVM irrespective of whether (or not) RH continues to support it throughout the life of RHEL5. Note that xen was dropped (not deprecated, dropped) in Fedora 10, read into that what you will :) So xen isn't technically deprecated yet, but if I were a betting man, I wouldn't be putting all my eggs in a virtualized xen basket. Some might choose to call that FUD, and that's their prerogative. In a way they're right as Red Hat's statement on xen does contain elements of uncertainty and doubt as they have not committed to continued ongoing support of xen past the current RHEL5 product lifecycle, and that may make some fearful for it's long term future within the Red Hat landscape. You seem to be putting words in Fedora's mouth and this is the problem with rumour-mongering. Show us a link where it says Xen was dropped by Fedora. Fedora works with upstream and Xen (Dom0 support) was not ready in time for Fedora 10, but that does not mean it cannot come by way of an update or Fedora 11 which is expected to be the base of RHEL 6. You are welcome to join any of the discussions upstream, rather than spreading FUD or being misinformed. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0 Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Centos 4 Yumdownloader vs yum-downloadonly on Centos 5
Peter Kjellstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For completeness, yumdownloader is a command/program that comes with the yum-utils package on centos 4 and 5. Yumdownloader on centos 4 does not add the functionality of the yum --downloadonly feature in Centos 5 from the yum-downloadonly-1.1.10-9.el5 I was replying to Peter Kjellstrom http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/068300.html as the original thread was about yum --downloadonly not present in centos 4. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?
Davide Cittaro wrote: Hi all, I'm new to Centos, just moved here from Gentoo Linux. I have to install a server for bioinformatics purposes and I see that default yum repositories do not include any bioinformatics software (i.e. ncbi-toolkit, blat, and others). I'm googling a bit but I can't find a valuable solution: which is (or which are) the best repository I should add to have a satisfying list of bioinfo rpm? These look like BioRpms to me BioRPMS :- Bioinformatics RPMs Repository http://informatics.umdnj.edu/BioRPMs/ Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] adduser vs. useradd
Niki Kovacs wrote: I just found a copy of RHEL 5 Unleashed, and there's a very clear chapter about local user management, which explains Red Hat's specific use of 'useradd', especially default options. One of the golden rules about posting is that you should try and do some basic research on your problem particularly when http://www.centos.org/docs has tons of stuff. There seems to be an influx of Slackware refugees joining the list. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated
Do people have wet underwear for nothing over XEN? See http://www.redhat.com/promo/qumranet/ snip Q: Will Red Hat continue to support and contribute to Xen? A: Yes. Red Hat will support Xen until at least 2014 (seven years after the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5). We are committed to insulating our customers from changes in the infrastructure components and this is why we created an open virtualization management standard (the Libvirt API). This standard is provided in Red Hat products and has been adopted by a number of other vendors (Sun, Novell, Ubuntu, etc.). It allows customers and ISVs to build virtualization management applications, processes and configurations based on a stable API, independent of the underlying virtualization technology. Red Hat continues to be an active member of the Xen development community and is currently working on further integration work between the Xen hypervisor and the Linux kernel. /snip As far as CentOS is concerned saying Xen is deprecated is jumping the gun. CentOS ships with Xen and as long as upstream supports it, CentOS by extension supports it. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Location of 5.2 .iso without XEN
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Do not install Virtualization and you won't have xen. There are no different ISOs for with xen and without xen. This means that the OP did not even bother checking the responses to his question. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/068124.html even looking at the recent kernel updates one can see for themselves :- x86_64: kernel-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5.x86_64.rpm kernel-debug-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5.x86_64.rpm kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5.x86_64.rpm kernel-devel-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5.x86_64.rpm kernel-doc-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5.noarch.rpm kernel-headers-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5.x86_64.rpm kernel-xen-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5.x86_64.rpm kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5.x86_64.rpm Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Samba Source
Bo Lynch wrote: On Wed, November 19, 2008 4:52 pm, Vandaman wrote: This might be a little aside, but why build rpms as root? Are you rolling out your own patches for Samba? If so can you share them with the list? Regards, Vandaman. Not rolling out patches just trying out samba-vscan with clamav on a few of our samba boxes. Anyone has any experience,advice or recommendations I would greatly appreciate it. Someone else can chime in on the samba-vscan but on building rpms as non-root see http://www.owlriver.com/tips/non-root/ There are tools in the 3rd party repos rather than doing it all by hand. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Maybe a dumb question, but try google....
Sam Drinkard wrote: Folks, I am totally ignorant about xen, and while I've been doing a little reading, I've not yet figured out if xen is running under CentOS or if CentOS is running under xen on this 5.2 version of CentOS. I do know that the whole system from the user standpoint is way slower than it was under 4.7. Heck, I can't even find much on what to do with xen, much less figure out how to use it. Question... is there a kernel for 5.2 that does not have xen built into it, and if so, where is it? Perhaps someone can give me a short tutorial about its value or use, or point me to a place where it's use is described in lay terms? I'm very comfortable with CentOS, but this is a whole 'nother ball game ! For such a general enquiry, try google http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=xenbtnG=Searchmeta= Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] XFS or JFS on CentOS 5?
Karanbir Singh wrote: Couple of points from my side of the line: I use xfs, i dont use jfs. but only on x86_64 xfs in centos has eyeball attention from some people who are and previously have been involved with xfs upstream ( sgi ) xfs in CentOS is more widely used than jfs is in centos ( impression I get from looking at logs on and off - generated at mirror.centos.org ). Having said all this, I know atleast 1 person who is indeed running jfs at the moment with CentOS5. And I am sure there are usecase's where Jfs is a better option than Xfs. Does this help answer the question ? Well said. You are very zippy too after rolling out those kernel updates what brand of coffee do you take? :-) Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] New installation woes
Dag Wieers wrote: We did not do anything. It is a bug in the priorities plugin. The reason we have a perl-DBD-mysql is because that is the upstream name and the naming convention dictates to use the upstream name. That is the only reliable way for not having RPM clashes. Maybe someone should report to Red Hat that perl-DBD-MySQL has a packaging bug ? http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBD-mysql/ What is the bug? It does not appear in the site you linked to. It would be surprising if Red Hat are unaware of upstream changes as one would expect it to be rolled out into Fedora rawhide at least even if the changes are backported int RHEL. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] New installation woes
Steve Huff wrote: On Nov 19, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Vandaman wrote: What is the bug? It does not appear in the site you linked to. It would be surprising if Red Hat are unaware of upstream changes as one would expect it to be rolled out into Fedora rawhide at least even if the changes are backported int RHEL. we went over this last month: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/065972.html http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/066185.html and also on the rpmforge users list: http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/users/2008-October/001973.html you were on the CentOS list then, i'm surprised you don't remember. please search the archives before posting; what you said has nothing to do with the issue. Seems a little impertinent what our learned friend Steve Huff has sent to me off-list in a huff :- - I was subscribed for a few days last month. - Many of us don't do just CentOS. We have other mailing lists and OS's installed. We also happen to have lives as well to live. - Even this month when I'm subscribed fulltime to the list, I don't read all messages on the list (nuff' said). - What is posted on the list is not Gospel. If something affects all CentOS users, perhaps a prominent announcement could be made on the website or somewhere. - I'm sure there are issues other than the Debian Openssl bug that affect all CentOS users. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Samba Source
Bo Lynch wrote: Bo Lynch wrote: I am trying to install the source code for samba. I have samba-3.0.28-1.el5_2.1 When I try and install the samba-3.0.28-1.el5_2.1.src.rpm. I get the following. rpm -ihv samba-3.0.28-1.el5_2.1.src.rpm snip error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/samba-3.0.28.tar.gz;492423fc: cpio: read works for me try do dl it again, your rpm is corrupted That worked. First time I've had that problem. Thanks again for the help This might be a little aside, but why build rpms as root? Are you rolling out your own patches for Samba? If so can you share them with the list? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle start up script issue with RHEL3 Cluster
Lanny Marcus wrote: Have you considered posting to a mailing list for RHEL? This list is for CentOS users. This is one of those situations where if you have nothing useful to say it is best to keep quiet. What about those in the CentOS forums asking for help after their subscriptions have run out? Or what business is it of yours if someone is running RHEL as opposed to a RHEL-derivative? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle start up script issue with RHEL3 Cluster
Lanny Marcus wrote: Have you considered posting to a mailing list for RHEL? This list is for CentOS users. This is one of those situations where if you have nothing useful to say it is best to keep quiet. What about those in the CentOS forums asking for help after their subscriptions have run out? Or what business is it of yours if someone is running RHEL as opposed to a RHEL-derivative? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle start up script issue with RHEL3 Cluster
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Indeed. Look in a mirror and say it again. You remind me of a Nazi Guard. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] how to debug hardware lockups?
Rudi Ahlers wrote: We have a server which locks up about once a week (for the past 3 weeks now), without any warning, and the only way to recover it, is to reset the server. This causes unwanted downtime, and often software loss as well. How do I debug the server, which runs CentOS 5.2 to see why it locks up? Are those the only logs you've got. Normally linux is very chatty, and you get WARNING, PANIC etc messages. What kernel are you using? Does a previous kernel or CentOS plus kernel stop the problem? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to Upgrade GNOME
Sadaruwan Samaraweera wrote: Can any one tell me how to upgrade from the current GNOME version to a new version with out upgrading my distribution. Hmm, a quick search reveals this was posted last month in the CentOS list by a certain Sadaruwan Samaraweera. Do you know him? http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/065922.html Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is there in CentOS 5 Compiz?
happymaster23 wrote: I have one maybe stupid question - is there in CentOS 5 packages of Compiz Fusion? I am deciding between Fedora and CentOS to install it to my netbook and this is one of most important features that I want. Make your decision between Fedora and CentOS not on the basis of Compiz which is described by its developers as Alpha Software. I have got both Fedora and CentOS and they can be described as different animals. CentOS is a stable server while Fedora is a fancy smancy desktop. Some of these people asking to upgrade should really be on the Fedora bandwagon and others complaining about Fedora being bleeding edge should have a CentOS server. Best of both? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo
Dag Wieers wrote: Hmm, then I am probably confusing it with some other tool I tried to package coming from SuSE. I do have a SPEC file on my buildsystem, but it does not work. I will investigate when I find the time. Hwinfo is SUSE specific. Debian page says :- Debian -- Details of package hwinfo in sid hwinfo is the hardware detection tool used in SuSE Linux. In Debian Edu ( Skolelinux) hwinfo has shown better results than discover when detecting mouse, .. The Mandriva spec file lists :- Add debian patch to get it build in non-suse distro Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo
Phil Schaffner wrote: At the risk of repeating myself - it does build/run on CentOS 5. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/067612.html That is not in dispute. I was responding to the claim that Hwinfo is made for Debian based systems. Why would debian add a patch to get it to build on none-suse systems if its made for debian systems? http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/067613.html Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba
Miguel Medalha wrote: Vandaman wrote I may need a strong shot of coffee but I though putting hide files = /~*/ as follows in the samba config file would hide files with a tilde. [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes hide files = /~*/ Unfortunately after restarting the server the files are still visible. If you have Windows Explorer set to show hidden files, they will appear in a dim color. Actually hide works exactly as intended. I needed some coffee and after some sleep. Revisiting the issue, it now works. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?
Lanny Marcus wrote: There is a Permissions problem, when I try to access /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab so I can edit them. How can I do that, using the Live CD's I have? I need root access. Instead of using a LIVECD, have you tried using the CentOS rescue CD and then using the grub command. I don't have Centos 5 but you can look at the CentOS docs or a quick Fedora example below. http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/158-System-Recovery-Week-Rescue-Mode-and-Reinstalling-Grub.html Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What happened to the CentOS Docs?
Ned Slider wrote: Your link is wrong. Here is the correct link: http://www.centos.org/docs/4/ I also had a look on the CentOS forum and the forum FAQ still links to the above location. Example http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/rhel-rg-en-4/s1-grub-installing.html No, the forum FAQ thread has the correct link for Documentation. See here: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14337forum=48 Where are you looking to find the wrong link? I was looking at the smartfaq below are my squid logs :- 1226225760.382 1773 10.0.0.3 TCP_MISS/200 14202 GET http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php? - DIRECT/72.232.194.162 text/html 1226225782.162242 10.0.0.3 TCP_MISS/404 606 GET http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/rhel-sag-en-4/ch-raid-intro.html - DIRECT/84.22.180.89 text/html 1226225782.745 37 10.0.0.3 TCP_MISS/404 566 GET http://mirror.centos.org/favicon.ico - DIRECT/84.22.180.89 text/html 1226225785.707 2 10.0.0.3 TCP_NEGATIVE_HIT/404 572 GET http://mirror.centos.org/favicon.ico - NONE/- text/html Are you Ned Slider from the CentOS forum and have changed the faq links? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What happened to the CentOS Docs?
Ned Slider wrote: Where are you looking to find the wrong link? Hmm its on http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS4 part 11 where it has several links and bottom says FAQ/CentOS4 last edited 2008-03-23 15:19:48 by DagWieers My point is that the docs used to be on mirror.centos.org but have now been moved presumably without notice/announcement. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] What happened to the CentOS Docs?
I don't log into the CentOS forum, CentOS chat but I don't know why the docs were removed from http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/ I also had a look on the CentOS forum and the forum FAQ still links to the above location. Example http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/rhel-rg-en-4/s1-grub-installing.html Not everyone uses IRC/Forum/Developers mailing list so for the benefit of others, what happened to the docs? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba
John wrote: Where is the folder at your using samba to share? Is this share on Windows? If so I don't think it will ever work. However it will work on Samba 3 and under CentOS It does work. I'm using XP and acccessing accessing the home dir on a CentOS box. [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes hide files = /~*/ Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba
Anne Wilson wrote: Vandaman wrote: I may need a strong shot of coffee but I though putting hide files = /~*/ as follows in the samba config file would hide files with a tilde. You mean files starting with a tilde? I expanded the selection to hide all files with a tilde. I will also setup a music share and hide .ini and .jpg files which are hidden on windows but would be displayed on the Samba share. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba
I may need a strong shot of coffee but I though putting hide files = /~*/ as follows in the samba config file would hide files with a tilde. [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes hide files = /~*/ Unfortunately after restarting the server the files are still visible. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
Milton Calnek wrote: Sorry, I missed the question. I'm severely confused and I don't know what I'm talking about. My friend, stop misquoting me. See http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/067393.html Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum and /etc/redhat-release
Agile Aspect wrote: Hi - I used yum to update CentOS 4.6. After the reboot after the upgrade, the file /etc/redhat-release still indicates I'm at CentOS 4.6. The lastest release of CentOS 4 is CentOS 4.7. So how do I use yum to upgrade from 4.6 to 4.7? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would guess you have doctored your CentOS yum repo files to point to 4.6 What are the contents of your CentOS-Base.repo file? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: I've been a RH/Fedora guy since the RH8 days. When Fedora came along, I moved to it, but its been a bit painful beta testing software all the time. I ran Ubuntu for a while, but I found their package management to be difficult... I do a lot of technical work, development and loading and building special stuff. I much prefer RPMs over other methods of package distribution. I'm listening if you have any other comments or advice on my situation. You are the guy who is having a bit of a moan on the Fedora list about KDE. How many patches have you contributed to Fedora or to CentOS? This is open source after all, you have access to the source. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Nightly yum update did an upgrade
Johnny Hughes wrote: Now ... an upgrade from 4.5 or 4.6 to 4.7 should not have broken your machine either, so we need to figure out why it did. The server CD contains 4.4 and if you use yum you should be able to get to 4.7 without any problems. Its a different story if you have packages from other repos that could potentially overwite base so you end up with something else not CentOS. Someone else has just posted his yum got broken by messing about with other repos trying to upgrade php. It is likely python, sqlite were all overwritten. As the CentOS wiki says if you break something from 3rd/4th party repos you get to keep the pieces. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Nightly yum update did an upgrade
Robert wrote: U. I s'pect Johnny Hughes, to whom you replied, understands repo mixing. Yeah Johnny understands repo mixing alright it was for the benefit of those who don't. Johnny has had to deal with City Managers threatening to call the FBI over CentOS see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle_centos/ so he knows much more than you think. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Solved: Dell PE2850 with 4GB RAM - Get a hold of yourself
Sorin Srbu wrote: Heh, googling for poweredge install mode on reveals it's not only having had this problem. ;-) Very helpful indeed. Not! http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/en/document?c=u scs=04l=ens=bsddn=1082724 My friend you are on a public mailing list and are conducting conversations with yourself saying basically nothing. Dell have forums for users too. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Nightly yum update did an upgrade
Karanbir Singh wrote: ok, so you chased down Lutz's machine, broke into it and were able to verify his yum configs are changed or did you pull that one out of thin air. I do suspect something is not right, since the 4.7 updates took as long as they did to get to his machine. They have been 'out there' for a fair few weeks now. And the concern that live updates within the distro broke a production machine is very much there. From the notes on the bug you would have to have 4.5/os/$basearch/ instead of $releasever/os/$basearch/ to get the bug. Also yum update or upgrade should not break anything unless you have packages from elsewhere and murked about with the configs. I have looked on the last month's list and not seen :- - people whose machines took weeks to autoupdate. - people whose production machines were broken by 4.6 to 4.7 Clearly Lutz's situation is unique and he has not told us the whole story. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] OT Mailing List Spam
Bob Hoffman wrote: I wait until a legitimate company spams me...then I call them up and see if it was themthen I let years of spam aggression boil out to the company over the phoneand hope they take me off the list. Now that is how to blow off spam steam. Sadly you have a long way to go ... I'm willing to bet that the eircom.net spammer has spammed many on this list but due to no-one taking action he was still in business. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dell PE2850 with 4GB RAM - Get a hold of yourself
MHR wrote: This list is for people who need, want or can give help w.r.t. CentOS and peripherally related issues. That's why I posted my question about Xboard on CentOS 4 here. I guess you did not see this nor the question about mailing list spam. For someone whose name does not even appear in the archives yet, you seem awfully hostile to everyone who deviates even slightly from the norm here, including people who are long-time members of this list. There is no hostility in asking people not to conduct conversations with themselves or to style up. Back in the day you would be mincemeat for doing what people are doing here. My client lists 26 emails per page and it was half full of Sorin Srbu replies. You are going to be called out for that sort of thing on a public mailing list. Lighten up. Someday, you, too, may need help and not be quite so particular with the guidelines. You can tell I'm already lightened up - basic google searches on find on Linux has about 4.8 million replies but I didn't mention this to the dozen or so responses to that topic. Sorin Srbu contacted me offlist and you can bet what was said remains offlist. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Proposed New Mailing List
Karanbir Singh wrote: And yea, working on setting up a sort of list to handle much of this semi OT traffic. More news on that around Wed next week, dint ask about it now. Off course people are going to ask. In my opinion as long as a topic is marked OT, it is preferable to one not marked but one in which the OP has not even done basic research on his problem. One distro had a brainflash a number of years ago - create a list for expert users and one for newbies. It didn't take long for the newbies to realise that there was no one to help and so flooded the expert list. This put off the experts. On some mailing lists, long time users are put off by the flood of posts by newbies who don't even conform to the list guidelines. Some pay back by not replying to those in violation without as much as a hint. Would a new list really solve anything or would it close one door and open another? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Proposed New Mailing List
Ned Slider wrote: It may be preferable to YOU, but marking something OT doesn't stop it wasting MY bandwidth or clogging up MY inbox does it? Your latter point is a separate issue that has no relevance to this discussion. If you cannot understand what is wrong with using the mailing list as your first port of call instead of a basic google search you may need brain surgery. It's not a waste of bandwidth to post ontopic stuff that is easily solved by simple google searches or reading the docs? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Proposed New Mailing List
Bill Campbell wrote: Personally I have no problem with the occassional OT thread, and think that, within reason, they can make a list more ``friendly'' and less intimidating to newbies. I also prefer more general lists to those that have very tight charters as I learn quite a bit when I see threads with interesting subjects that I might not see otherwise. It will be interesting if things went like so :- - a CentOS Ivory Tower List for those on top of Ivory Towers. - a CentOS OT list full of 419 scammers, salesmen/affiliates posts - a CentOS n00b list for n00bs Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Nightly yum update did an upgrade
Karanbir Singh wrote: Also I do fully understand what you mean by saying updates in the release are not supposed to break things but it happens all to often. And I hope you are being a good community member and submitting bug reports so something can be done about that... Wow you are spending an awful amount of time on this issue.Without hard evidence from Lutz its going nowhere. All of this because someone quoted Seth on probably what is the latest release of yum? Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Mailing List Spam
John R Pierce wrote: except, 99% of spam has forged FROM addresses, often an innocent address randomly picked from the same lists being used to send the spam TOO. 95% of the spam is sent from hacked/infected servers acting as relays, so complaining to the owner of the IP space the spam originated in doesn't actually catch the real spammers either, although it may help fix the hacked box, there's bazillions more. This isn't a hacked box. A quick look on google for 419 scams from eircom shows a lot of spam originating from their network. If more and more people reported then the ISP will be forced to take action. When reporting spam to hotmail, they do come and say some headers are forged but others are legit. In this instance it looks as if a legit eircom customer is abusing the service. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] OT Mailing List Spam
Bob Hoffman wrote: Great.. Guess best thing to do is get a gmail account to use with mailing lists to lower spam scanners on your main email.. Sigh..too late for this one...lol Gmail? Yahoomail is just fine too. I use the addressguard and have disposable addresses, so my main email is safe. Once spam starts coming in, I cut-off that disposable and grow another one. 100% zero tolerance is operated, any spam and its reported. If you want your main emails to have less spam, never use them on mailing lists, forums etc use Yahoo/Gmail etc When they get spammed cut them off and get another free email account. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Mailing List Spam
MHR wrote Sounds like they have a serious problem with spam from their users, they know it, but they don't know how to deal with it (or don't care), in which case (either way) they deserve to be blacklisted. That kind of support we can do without. 1. Go to the eircom page or type abuse at eircom in google to get the web form. The form looks like it goes direct to their tech support, they responded very fast. 2. As the scam lists a hotmail.fr address as the contact, forward it to abuse at hotmail. hotmail do not like such scams run from their accounts. 3. A look on google showed some guy named Cole running a similar scam from a residential account in Glasgow. Once his ISP is on him and the local police notified, his days are numbered. Bottomline - report the MOFOS. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
