Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[wwp]

Hello Peter,


On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:21:58 +1200 Peter Ajamian  wrote:

> On 15/07/21 4:14 pm, Peter wrote:
> > Try this installing gcc10-libstdc++ from GhettoForge > 
> > (https://ghettoforge.org/) and then set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/gcc-10.2.1  
> 
> Sorry that's http, not https:
> http://ghettoforge.org/

Thanks! It worked here, after adding gf to the local yum's repo list,
installed gcc10-libstdc++, updated teams, and used a wrapper script
like to call:
$ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/gcc-10.2.1/usr/lib64:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH teams


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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Mark Milhollan]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2021, Chris Adams wrote:


Like a number of "desktop apps" for web-based sites, Teams is an
Electron app.  That means it's really a package of Chrome plus the
site's client HTML/CSS/JavaScript, so you get all the fun bugs of
Chrome (with no way to upgrade it).


And it is still called a preview.  I use the web version, directly, at 
, so I can update my browser as I desire 
instead of being stuck with whatever happened to have been packaged 
until whenever Microsoft gets around to making a new package and decided 
to update their Electron base.



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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 05:30, Toralf Lund  wrote:
>
> On 15/07/2021 09:37, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 2:03 PM Toralf Lund  wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?
> >>
> >> I've used it for a while now, and it's generally worked reasonably well.
> >> However, after upgrading to the latest version from the Microsoft repos,
> >> it doesn't start up properly. Processes start and remain active until I
> >> give up and kill them, but I can't see a window or a tray icon or anything.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else seen this? Is there anything I can do to make the GUI
> >> appear?
> >>
> >> This is not a big deal as everything just works fine if I revert to the
> >> previous release, but it would be interesting to know if this is a
> >> general problem with the software, or I have some weird issue with my
> >> system.
> >>
> >> The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does is
> >> 1.4.00.7556.
> >>
> >> - Toralf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > At the end I think you have something broken with your repo config or you
> > installed forcing something.
>
> Like I said elsewhere, it turns out that it's a little more complicated
> than that. The libraries are actually "provided", but they're not on the
> library path.
>

That isn't provided.. that is a private copy that chrome bundles
itself to use. It may or may not have all of the library calls in it
(the chrome upstream may only turn on things it knows it wants), and
it may have changes which the team doesn't expect.

Also teams is looking for `rpm -q --whatprovides
'libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)'` and you typed
`rpm -q --whatprovides 'libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)'`

Basically Microsoft teams will need to bundle this newer version of
glibc they are using to make your software work.

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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Toralf Lund]

On 15/07/2021 09:37, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 2:03 PM Toralf Lund  wrote:


Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?

I've used it for a while now, and it's generally worked reasonably well.
However, after upgrading to the latest version from the Microsoft repos,
it doesn't start up properly. Processes start and remain active until I
give up and kill them, but I can't see a window or a tray icon or anything.

Has anyone else seen this? Is there anything I can do to make the GUI
appear?

This is not a big deal as everything just works fine if I revert to the
previous release, but it would be interesting to know if this is a
general problem with the software, or I have some weird issue with my
system.

The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does is
1.4.00.7556.

- Toralf




At the end I think you have something broken with your repo config or you
installed forcing something.


Like I said elsewhere, it turns out that it's a little more complicated 
than that. The libraries are actually "provided", but they're not on the 
library path.


[toralf@localhost ~]$ rpm -q --whatprovides 
'libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)'


chrome-deps-stable-3.13-1.x86_64
[toralf@localhost ~]$ rpm -ql chrome-deps-stable

[ ... ]

/opt/google/chrome/lib/libstdc++.so.6

I could of course add an ld.so.conf file or use LD_PRELOAD so that teams 
would "see" this library.


- Toralf



The repo should be:

[teams]
name=teams
baseurl=https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpackages.microsoft.com%2Fyumrepos%2Fms-teamsdata=04%7C01%7Ctoralf.lund%40pgs.com%7C5093c23297de453df1f308d9476378bb%7C51d05d6147e9480b93b298dc84f1ed06%7C0%7C0%7C637619314818784964%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=CK51wzQOaF2i%2BI3TTc1gTk9P00OMgc7d%2F6FDrKhLU5M%3Dreserved=0
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpackages.microsoft.com%2Fkeys%2Fmicrosoft.ascdata=04%7C01%7Ctoralf.lund%40pgs.com%7C5093c23297de453df1f308d9476378bb%7C51d05d6147e9480b93b298dc84f1ed06%7C0%7C0%7C637619314818784964%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=i8mx7ejtczlM4TrVI%2BT1RR04PONMBo9SopXVz3%2BV59s%3Dreserved=0

On a system with Fedora 34 I run without problems
teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 using that repo.
Unfortunately the repo itself is distro agnostic in the sense that I see
the flat 
baseurl=https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpackages.microsoft.com%2Fyumrepos%2Fms-teamsdata=04%7C01%7Ctoralf.lund%40pgs.com%7C5093c23297de453df1f308d9476378bb%7C51d05d6147e9480b93b298dc84f1ed06%7C0%7C0%7C637619314818784964%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=CK51wzQOaF2i%2BI3TTc1gTk9P00OMgc7d%2F6FDrKhLU5M%3Dreserved=0
 inside it
and there is no check about distro
(this I think was the note about "not understanding how to package
software" pointed out by Phil)

If I go to an updated CentOS 7.9 system without teams and put the repo file
I get this, as other detailed before:

yum install teams
. . .
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.13653-1 will be installed
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit) for package:
teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit) for package:
teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit) for
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit) for
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit) for
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)
  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

But I can run:
yum install teams-1.4.00.7556-1
. . .
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.7556-1 will be installed
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

I don't know if there is a yum option or config parameter to say yum to
choose the best version, without depsolve problems, even if not the latest
available (in this case teams-1.4.00.7556-1) among the ones 

Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Toralf Lund]

On 14/07/2021 22:13, Phil Perry wrote:

On 14/07/2021 07:28, Toralf Lund wrote:

On 13/07/2021 14:23, Phil Perry wrote:

On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:

Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?

I've used it for a while now, and it's generally worked reasonably 
well. However, after upgrading to the latest version from the 
Microsoft repos, it doesn't start up properly. Processes start and 
remain active until I give up and kill them, but I can't see a 
window or a tray icon or anything.


Has anyone else seen this? Is there anything I can do to make the 
GUI appear?


This is not a big deal as everything just works fine if I revert to 
the previous release, but it would be interesting to know if this 
is a general problem with the software, or I have some weird issue 
with my system.


The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does is 
1.4.00.7556.


- Toralf



My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum 
has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update 
it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.


OK. Do you know what dependencies that might be? Just out of interest...

I've never had any issues like that. Like I said, the latest (?) 
version installs just fine on my system, it's just that it doesn't do 
anything useful.




I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would be 
helpful.


Well, it would be kind of interesting...

- T



My currently installed/working version is:
# rpm -qa | grep teams
teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64


OK. Thanks.

That's the one that works here, obviously.



and when I attempt a yum update, I get:

Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.7556-1 will be updated
---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.13653-1 will be an update
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64

--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)


Which I don't see.

But I found out what's going on;

[toralf@localhost ~]$ rpm -q --whatprovides 
'libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)'

chrome-deps-stable-3.13-1.x86_64
[toralf@localhost ~]$ rpm -ql chrome-deps-stable
/opt/google/chrome/lib/libgnome-keyring.so.0
/opt/google/chrome/lib/libstdc++.so.6
/opt/google/chrome/lib/link-to-libgnome-keyring.so.0
/opt/google/chrome/modify_wrapper

The problem is, even though this package "provides" the lib, it's not 
available for general use, in that /opt/google/chrome/lib isn't added to 
the library path.


I believe this package was supposed to help you get around some kind of 
dependency issue with chrome packages from Google a long time ago. 
Offered as a quick-fix by someone associated with the Fedora project, 
but probably not included in any of the "usual" repos. I'd quite 
forgotten that I had this.


Didn't think to check this sooner; I guess I assumed that everything 
would be OK with the dependencies, since the processes did not fail with 
the runtime linker error you might expect. But I suppose the components 
are loaded in a somewhat more roundabout way, i.e. the teams executable 
is not actually linked to the new libstdc++ or anything that uses it.


- Toralf



Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)


So Teams now needs a newer version of libstdc++ than that in RHEL7. As 
others have mentioned, Microsoft clearly do not understand how to 
package software using RPM and you are probably better off with a 
snap/flatpak solution.


--Phil

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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Peter Ajamian]

On 15/07/21 4:14 pm, Peter wrote:
Try this installing gcc10-libstdc++ from GhettoForge 
(https://ghettoforge.org/) and then set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/gcc-10.2.1


Sorry that's http, not https:
http://ghettoforge.org/


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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Peter]

On 15/07/21 8:13 am, Phil Perry wrote:

Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
    Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
    Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
    Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
    Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
    Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)


Try this installing gcc10-libstdc++ from GhettoForge 
(https://ghettoforge.org/) and then set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/gcc-10.2.1


If you have a desktop launcher edit the launcher and prefix "env 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/gcc-10.2.1 " to the command.


Then see if it works.


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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Phil Perry  said:
> So Teams now needs a newer version of libstdc++ than that in RHEL7.
> As others have mentioned, Microsoft clearly do not understand how to
> package software using RPM and you are probably better off with a
> snap/flatpak solution.

Umm, I would say that there is a proper dependency on a required
library, they do understand how to package software using RPM.  They're
just choosing to build on a newer OS version that has dependencies that
aren't handled on CentOS 7.

I don't know if they specify supported distributions anywhere (I didn't
find a list in a quick search), so don't think they claim that CentOS 7
is supported.  I think they just say "here's an RPM" and "here's a
repo".

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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Phil Perry]

On 14/07/2021 07:28, Toralf Lund wrote:

On 13/07/2021 14:23, Phil Perry wrote:

On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:

Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?

I've used it for a while now, and it's generally worked reasonably 
well. However, after upgrading to the latest version from the 
Microsoft repos, it doesn't start up properly. Processes start and 
remain active until I give up and kill them, but I can't see a window 
or a tray icon or anything.


Has anyone else seen this? Is there anything I can do to make the GUI 
appear?


This is not a big deal as everything just works fine if I revert to 
the previous release, but it would be interesting to know if this is 
a general problem with the software, or I have some weird issue with 
my system.


The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does is 
1.4.00.7556.


- Toralf



My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum 
has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update 
it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.


OK. Do you know what dependencies that might be? Just out of interest...

I've never had any issues like that. Like I said, the latest (?) version 
installs just fine on my system, it's just that it doesn't do anything 
useful.




I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would be 
helpful.


Well, it would be kind of interesting...

- T



My currently installed/working version is:
# rpm -qa | grep teams
teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64

and when I attempt a yum update, I get:

Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.7556-1 will be updated
---> Package teams.x86_64 0:1.4.00.13653-1 will be an update
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit) for 
package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64

--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.21)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.8)(64bit)
Error: Package: teams-1.4.00.13653-1.x86_64 (teams)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.22)(64bit)


So Teams now needs a newer version of libstdc++ than that in RHEL7. As 
others have mentioned, Microsoft clearly do not understand how to 
package software using RPM and you are probably better off with a 
snap/flatpak solution.


--Phil

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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Toralf Lund  said:
> But in that situation, you expect runtime errors. In this case, the
> application doesn't just install, it also starts and stays running
> for as long as I care to let it. It just doesn't do anything useful.
> Not as far as I can tell, anyway. I guess part of the question was
> if I'm missing something. Like, perhaps it doesn't open any windows
> by default, but there's some obscure way to make them come up...

Like a number of "desktop apps" for web-based sites, Teams is an
Electron app.  That means it's really a package of Chrome plus the
site's client HTML/CSS/JavaScript, so you get all the fun bugs of
Chrome (with no way to upgrade it).  Microsoft's RPM does appear to have
all the proper RPM dependencies, so that's probably not the issue (as
long as it installs, they should be satisfied).

Have you run Teams before on this system?  If so, I've found that it
tends to bog down over time, which I suspect is something like it
growing a cache without bounds or the like.  If that's the case, I
suggest removing its data and re-logging in.  It looks like that
"~/.config/Microsoft/Microsoft Teams".

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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Simon Matter]

> On 14/07/2021 09:04, Simon Matter wrote:
>>> On 13/07/2021 15:07, Tru Huynh wrote:
 hi

 On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 01:23:58PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote:
> On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:
>> Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?
>>
 <...>
>> The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does
>> is 1.4.00.7556.
>>
>> - Toralf
>>
> My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum
> has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update
> it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.
>
> I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would be
> helpful.
 AFAIK, the latest rpm version for c7 is teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64
 after that they only support CentOS-8 for rpm or snap based for c7
 (but one needs to have $HOME under /home).
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> The weird thing here is that the newer version actually installs. If
>>> it's built on/for a later release, I'd normally expect complaints about
>>> the libc or libstdc++ version or something along those lines...
>>>
>>> - Toralf
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've seen a lot of commercial software to completely disable the
>> dependency thing in their RPM packages. So you can always install it, it
>> just doesn't work :)
>
> I guess that's true.
>
> But in that situation, you expect runtime errors. In this case, the
> application doesn't just install, it also starts and stays running for
> as long as I care to let it. It just doesn't do anything useful. Not as

Maybe the same folks who disabled dependency tracking also disabled
logging... Or the software tries to call bluescreen() which obviously
doesn't exist on CentOS :)

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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Toralf Lund]

On 14/07/2021 09:04, Simon Matter wrote:

On 13/07/2021 15:07, Tru Huynh wrote:

hi

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 01:23:58PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote:

On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:

Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?


<...>

The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does
is 1.4.00.7556.

- Toralf


My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum
has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update
it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.

I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would be
helpful.

AFAIK, the latest rpm version for c7 is teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64
after that they only support CentOS-8 for rpm or snap based for c7
(but one needs to have $HOME under /home).

OK.

The weird thing here is that the newer version actually installs. If
it's built on/for a later release, I'd normally expect complaints about
the libc or libstdc++ version or something along those lines...

- Toralf

Hi,

I've seen a lot of commercial software to completely disable the
dependency thing in their RPM packages. So you can always install it, it
just doesn't work :)


I guess that's true.

But in that situation, you expect runtime errors. In this case, the 
application doesn't just install, it also starts and stays running for 
as long as I care to let it. It just doesn't do anything useful. Not as 
far as I can tell, anyway. I guess part of the question was if I'm 
missing something. Like, perhaps it doesn't open any windows by default, 
but there's some obscure way to make them come up...


- Toralf




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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the? latest version work?

[Robert Heller]

At Wed, 14 Jul 2021 08:33:42 +0200 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> On 13/07/2021 15:07, Tru Huynh wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 01:23:58PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote:
> >> On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:
> >>> Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?
> >>>
> > <...>
> >>> The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does
> >>> is 1.4.00.7556.
> >>>
> >>> - Toralf
> >>>
> >> My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum
> >> has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update
> >> it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.
> >>
> >> I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would be
> >> helpful.
> > AFAIK, the latest rpm version for c7 is teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64
> > after that they only support CentOS-8 for rpm or snap based for c7
> > (but one needs to have $HOME under /home).
> 
> OK.
> 
> The weird thing here is that the newer version actually installs. If 
> it's built on/for a later release, I'd normally expect complaints about 
> the libc or libstdc++ version or something along those lines...

That assumes that the RPM was *properly* build from source. Many producers of
closed source software "cheat" and create RPMs (and/or DEBs) that don't
actually have proper dependencies and it might be possible to install software
that actually won't work because of missing dependencies or something. 

> 
> - Toralf
> 
> 
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Tru
> >
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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Simon Matter]

> On 13/07/2021 15:07, Tru Huynh wrote:
>> hi
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 01:23:58PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote:
>>> On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:
 Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?

>> <...>
 The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does
 is 1.4.00.7556.

 - Toralf

>>> My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum
>>> has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update
>>> it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.
>>>
>>> I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would be
>>> helpful.
>> AFAIK, the latest rpm version for c7 is teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64
>> after that they only support CentOS-8 for rpm or snap based for c7
>> (but one needs to have $HOME under /home).
>
> OK.
>
> The weird thing here is that the newer version actually installs. If
> it's built on/for a later release, I'd normally expect complaints about
> the libc or libstdc++ version or something along those lines...
>
> - Toralf

Hi,

I've seen a lot of commercial software to completely disable the
dependency thing in their RPM packages. So you can always install it, it
just doesn't work :)

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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Toralf Lund]

On 13/07/2021 15:07, Tru Huynh wrote:

hi

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 01:23:58PM +0100, Phil Perry wrote:

On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:

Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?


<...>

The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does
is 1.4.00.7556.

- Toralf


My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum
has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update
it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.

I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would be
helpful.

AFAIK, the latest rpm version for c7 is teams-1.4.00.7556-1.x86_64
after that they only support CentOS-8 for rpm or snap based for c7
(but one needs to have $HOME under /home).


OK.

The weird thing here is that the newer version actually installs. If 
it's built on/for a later release, I'd normally expect complaints about 
the libc or libstdc++ version or something along those lines...


- Toralf




Cheers

Tru


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Re: [CentOS] [External] Re: Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7. Does the latest version work?

[Toralf Lund]

On 13/07/2021 14:23, Phil Perry wrote:

On 13/07/2021 13:02, Toralf Lund wrote:

Does anyone else run Microsoft Teams on CentOS 7?

I've used it for a while now, and it's generally worked reasonably 
well. However, after upgrading to the latest version from the 
Microsoft repos, it doesn't start up properly. Processes start and 
remain active until I give up and kill them, but I can't see a window 
or a tray icon or anything.


Has anyone else seen this? Is there anything I can do to make the GUI 
appear?


This is not a big deal as everything just works fine if I revert to 
the previous release, but it would be interesting to know if this is 
a general problem with the software, or I have some weird issue with 
my system.


The release that doesn't work is 1.4.00.13653. The one that does is 
1.4.00.7556.


- Toralf



My wife has been using it on el7, but for the last month or two yum 
has been complaining about broken dependencies when trying to update 
it, so I'd disabled the Teams repo from yum updating.


OK. Do you know what dependencies that might be? Just out of interest...

I've never had any issues like that. Like I said, the latest (?) version 
installs just fine on my system, it's just that it doesn't do anything 
useful.




I can check what version I'm running later for you, if that would be 
helpful.


Well, it would be kind of interesting...

- T



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