RE: [CentOS] 12V computing?
Thanks every one for putting so much effort in your responses, we have ordered one to test with. Fwiw, why it is 12V and using other voltages was way off topic. We are using 12V due to interoperability requirements. The environment it is going into has on pair of redundant line to 12V power supplies and an internal battery backup. There all other internal components operating at this 12V level. That being said, we are trying to reduce the current draw of every device vs. production and development costs (nice parametric equation in excel...). Lastly, every piece of compiled by us goes through extra certification (certify source, dev, test, production binaries = $$$), so we are not going to recompile the kernel, and that is why we choose RHEL/Centos, as they are binary compatible and reviewed. -Jason Pyeron -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel de Kok Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:02 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] 12V computing? On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:16 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Gore wrote: I have run CentOS 4.5 on this platform without problems. I wouldn't expect any issues with CentOS 5+. are these Via C7 processors i686 compliant? Yes they are. Everything from the Nehemiah and newer cores. -- Daniel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 12V computing?
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:16 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Gore wrote: I have run CentOS 4.5 on this platform without problems. I wouldn't expect any issues with CentOS 5+. are these Via C7 processors i686 compliant? Yes they are. Everything from the Nehemiah and newer cores. -- Daniel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] 12V computing?
Any ideas if this can run centos with out a special modifications? Elite C7VCM Mini-ITX Motherboard with VIA C7 1.5GHz Processor http://resources.mini-box.com/online/MBD-E-C7VCM/MBD-E-C7VCM-manual.pdf -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: [CentOS] 12V computing? Does anyone on the list have recommendations on 12VDC based hardware which runs a stock Centos 4 (or even 5)? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 12V computing?
Jason, I don't see why the 32 bit version of centos would not run on that hardware. Despite the fancy processor name, it still has to work with the i586 command set (at the worst). There's no such thing as a 12 volt computer... unless you're looking at some sort of weird industrial setup. That motherboard runs of a standard ATX power supply just like any other beige/black box would. You can buy special electronic power supplies which convert 12V dc to the ATX standard, these are often used for putting a computer in a car. Search the mini-box site for pico psu Gordon On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Jason Pyeron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas if this can run centos with out a special modifications? Elite C7VCM Mini-ITX Motherboard with VIA C7 1.5GHz Processor http://resources.mini-box.com/online/MBD-E-C7VCM/MBD-E-C7VCM-manual.pdf -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: [CentOS] 12V computing? Does anyone on the list have recommendations on 12VDC based hardware which runs a stock Centos 4 (or even 5)? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] 12V computing?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon McLellan Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:10 PM ... There's no such thing as a 12 volt computer... unless you're looking at some sort of weird industrial setup. Yes. We are trying to minimize costs ( certification of deviation from baseline centos/RHEL vs. hardware costs) in a 12VDC only environment. That motherboard runs of a standard ATX power supply just like any other beige/black box would. The documents I have read disagree. See the picture too: http://resources.mini-box.com/online/MBD-E-C7VCM/moreimages/image2.jpg notice the modified ATX connector to only have +12 and ground. You can buy special electronic power supplies which convert 12V dc to the ATX standard, these are often used for putting a computer in a car. We are aware of these, but that would be just another part at another cost, and another testing point, ... Search the mini-box site for pico psu Gordon On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Jason Pyeron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas if this can run centos with out a special modifications? Elite C7VCM Mini-ITX Motherboard with VIA C7 1.5GHz Processor http://resources.mini-box.com/online/MBD-E-C7VCM/MBD-E-C7VCM-manual.pdf -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: [CentOS] 12V computing? Does anyone on the list have recommendations on 12VDC based hardware which runs a stock Centos 4 (or even 5)? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 12V computing?
I have run CentOS 4.5 on this platform without problems. I wouldn't expect any issues with CentOS 5+. -Ben Jason Pyeron wrote: Any ideas if this can run centos with out a special modifications? Elite C7VCM Mini-ITX Motherboard with VIA C7 1.5GHz Processor http://resources.mini-box.com/online/MBD-E-C7VCM/MBD-E-C7VCM-manual.pdf -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: [CentOS] 12V computing? Does anyone on the list have recommendations on 12VDC based hardware which runs a stock Centos 4 (or even 5)? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] 12V computing?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:55 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] 12V computing? Jason Pyeron wrote: Yes. We are trying to minimize costs ( certification of deviation from baseline centos/RHEL vs. hardware costs) in a 12VDC only environment. by 12VDC, do you mean regulated 12VDC +/- xx%, or vehicular 12V which typically is 11-14V, and should be engineered to not burn up on 9-18V with noisy spikes et al? We will have a regulator. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 12V computing?
If you want to minimize power costs, look to higher voltage, not lower. Run your computers off 208-240 volts instead of 100-120. If your supply is not auto ranging, make sure it's set to the high / 230 setting. Having a massive 12v power supply to run several computers isn't going to save any power. Your second picture just demonstrates they have integrated the electronic power supply into the board, thus when your power supply fails, you can replace the entire system instead of just a component. It is doubtable than a 12VDC to ATX converter is any more efficient than an AC-line to ATX converter. Plus the cabling to transfer 12V at 10a+ more than a few feet is going to be massively expensive - look up the I2R losses on google. In regards to cpu support, the via website mentions the C7 compares directly with the Pentium IV, which would make it a 686 class cpu. Additionally, they claim support for these extended instruction sets: MMX, SSE, SSE2 SSE3 One thing you might want to consider, is DIY blade computing. With some clever wiring, you can splice the ATX connector harnesses from several dead power supplies onto a modern high wattage psu, providing power for 4 to 6 low-end system boards arranged in a stack. A new 80 PLUS rated 500-600w psu should have no problems. Pick one from the stack to be the 'master', and toss a hard drive on it, the rest can net boot from it. Gordon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 12V computing?
there are computer systems that take 12VDC (for example the PC-104 type and others). such a computer system is a box that has a connection for 12VDC. inside the box is a power supply that takes the 12VDC and presents the +12VDC, -12VCD, 5VDC, and -5VDC that's needed by the various electronic subsystems that make up the computer. the installation of linux (or any other OS) is independent of the power requirements of the computer system. On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 16:09 -0400, Gordon McLellan wrote: Jason, I don't see why the 32 bit version of centos would not run on that hardware. Despite the fancy processor name, it still has to work with the i586 command set (at the worst). There's no such thing as a 12 volt computer... unless you're looking at some sort of weird industrial setup. That motherboard runs of a standard ATX power supply just like any other beige/black box would. You can buy special electronic power supplies which convert 12V dc to the ATX standard, these are often used for putting a computer in a car. Search the mini-box site for pico psu Gordon On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Jason Pyeron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas if this can run centos with out a special modifications? Elite C7VCM Mini-ITX Motherboard with VIA C7 1.5GHz Processor http://resources.mini-box.com/online/MBD-E-C7VCM/MBD-E-C7VCM-manual.pdf -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:43 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: [CentOS] 12V computing? Does anyone on the list have recommendations on 12VDC based hardware which runs a stock Centos 4 (or even 5)? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 12V computing?
12VDC is appropriate for places that don't have other electrical supplies. these places include automobiles and boats as well as remote regions that use windmills, creekmills, solar panels, car batteries, and deep discharge gel batteries, possibly in a mix. typically there's noise and variant voltage levels above the nominal 12VDC; any system should be designed to work with spikes, noise, and higher voltages--most are as a matter of course. On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 19:06 -0400, Gordon McLellan wrote: If you want to minimize power costs, look to higher voltage, not lower. Run your computers off 208-240 volts instead of 100-120. If your supply is not auto ranging, make sure it's set to the high / 230 setting. Having a massive 12v power supply to run several computers isn't going to save any power. Your second picture just demonstrates they have integrated the electronic power supply into the board, thus when your power supply fails, you can replace the entire system instead of just a component. It is doubtable than a 12VDC to ATX converter is any more efficient than an AC-line to ATX converter. Plus the cabling to transfer 12V at 10a+ more than a few feet is going to be massively expensive - look up the I2R losses on google. In regards to cpu support, the via website mentions the C7 compares directly with the Pentium IV, which would make it a 686 class cpu. Additionally, they claim support for these extended instruction sets: MMX, SSE, SSE2 SSE3 One thing you might want to consider, is DIY blade computing. With some clever wiring, you can splice the ATX connector harnesses from several dead power supplies onto a modern high wattage psu, providing power for 4 to 6 low-end system boards arranged in a stack. A new 80 PLUS rated 500-600w psu should have no problems. Pick one from the stack to be the 'master', and toss a hard drive on it, the rest can net boot from it. Gordon ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 12V computing?
jim wrote: 12VDC is appropriate for places that don't have other electrical supplies. these places include automobiles and boats as well as remote regions that use windmills, creekmills, solar panels, car batteries, and deep discharge gel batteries, possibly in a mix. typically there's noise and variant voltage levels above the nominal 12VDC; any system should be designed to work with spikes, noise, and higher voltages--most are as a matter of course. and, of course, you need 10 times the amperage at 12V... For instance, a 250 watt system that would draw about 2 amps at 120V will be drawing 20 amps at 12V. this means that you need much heavier gauge power wiring, especially for long runs. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 12V computing?
a 100 Watt system draws a little less than 1 Amp at 120 VAC and about 8 Amps at 12VDC. there's about 10 times power loss per foot of conductor and per connection (estimate 1/2 Ohm per connection). Yes, heavier guage wire is required for a lower voltage supplying the same power. for that reason, systems using 12VDC must require very little power. Via's latest motherboards include some that draw 20 or 30 Watts and yet have pretty good processing capabilities. SATA solid state drives and USB pendrives draw very little power. there are systems advertised drawing less than 10 Watts (e.g. gumstix). the XO laptop (OLPC) is a good example of a fairly powerful computer that requires very little Wattage. efficient software design--good algorithms and small memory footprint--improve benchmark performance at the feature level. software that must comply with legacy requirements is at a disadvantage in such systems. and such systems look to be increasingly needed, given the increasing green requirements world wide, not to mention the spotty power availability of many of the world's remote regions. i believe manufacturers will be delivering systems that require less and less power in the near future, and more and more of them will be battery powered, not only at 12VDC but with AA and C cell batteries (e.g. cellphones and PIM devices). as 12VDC is ubiquitous, we should see more and more systems designed to work off a cigarette lighter. they exist today. On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 21:28 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: jim wrote: 12VDC is appropriate for places that don't have other electrical supplies. these places include automobiles and boats as well as remote regions that use windmills, creekmills, solar panels, car batteries, and deep discharge gel batteries, possibly in a mix. typically there's noise and variant voltage levels above the nominal 12VDC; any system should be designed to work with spikes, noise, and higher voltages--most are as a matter of course. and, of course, you need 10 times the amperage at 12V... For instance, a 250 watt system that would draw about 2 amps at 120V will be drawing 20 amps at 12V. this means that you need much heavier gauge power wiring, especially for long runs. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] 12V computing?
Does anyone on the list have recommendations on 12VDC based hardware which runs a stock Centos 4 (or even 5)? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, purge the message from your system and notify the sender immediately. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
