Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Thu, April 28, 2016 9:07 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 07:48:11AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Thu, April 28, 2016 1:40 am, Andreas Benzler wrote:
>> > Don’t flame me - Ubuntu LTS 16.04 is on the way and this should work
>> for
>> > you.
>>
>> Ubuntu is clone of Debian. Don't flame me, I'm just mentioning.
>
> I'm surprised that no one has suggested Fedora instead of Ubuntu.
> You've got the same bleeding-edge software, but in something that's a
> lot more familiar for CentOS users.  I use Fedora 23 on my laptop, and
> many of out-of-tree packages I maintain build side-by-side with
> CentOS7.

Marvellous! Thank you Jonathan! I always was using Fedora in the past when
CentOS wasn't covering all hardware on laptops. But for long time already
CentOS just works (like mackintosh, only better ;-), so I don't need to
fall back to Fedora...

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Jonathan Billings]

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 07:48:11AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Thu, April 28, 2016 1:40 am, Andreas Benzler wrote:
> > Don’t flame me - Ubuntu LTS 16.04 is on the way and this should work for
> > you.
> 
> Ubuntu is clone of Debian. Don't flame me, I'm just mentioning.

I'm surprised that no one has suggested Fedora instead of Ubuntu.
You've got the same bleeding-edge software, but in something that's a
lot more familiar for CentOS users.  I use Fedora 23 on my laptop, and
many of out-of-tree packages I maintain build side-by-side with
CentOS7. 

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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Andreas Benzler]

correct my self: I know how to package rpm and patch files. Sometimes i
develop. The question is what you wanne do. When your machine works with
centos 7 got a lifecycle till 2024.

Sincerely

Andy

Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2016, 22:27 -0400 schrieb Brian Bernard:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Y700 Notebook, and wondering if it would
> work with CentOS 6. Or if anyone has experience with using it under CentOS
> 6. I assume that the WiFi could be an issue as it uses an Intel 8260 card.
> I want to make the correct decision.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Thu, April 28, 2016 1:40 am, Andreas Benzler wrote:
> Hello Brain,
>
> for such new software you go with Centos 7. The older version is more
> rocket stable,
> but in case you use such new laptop the newer one is the better / best
> choice.
>
> You need to upgrade the kernel, there is no  way out. Centos  deliver
> „only“
> 2.6 or 3.10.
>
> http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-lt or http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml
> can fix this.
>
> - Totem and multimedia isn’t work fully. Gstreamer is cut down.
>
> Yesterday I installed my laptop with new hardware and most of it  fully
> work,
> but it was hard to go. Why ? Take a look at my private repo
> http://centos.cms4all.org/centos/7/
> What it does? Update Kernel, Drivers, Mesa , GStreamer, Gutenprint
> (printers). I’m
> liite bit of centos 7 and in this parts I’m on my own.
>
> Don’t flame me - Ubuntu LTS 16.04 is on the way and this should work for
> you.

Ubuntu is clone of Debian. Don't flame me, I'm just mentioning.

Valeri

>
> The new nvidia series 9 will come with kernel 4.5 as i know (open source
> part)
>
> Greatings
>
> Andy
>
>> Am 28.04.2016 um 05:47 schrieb Valeri Galtsev
>> :
>>
>>
>> On Wed, April 27, 2016 10:07 pm, Brian Bernard wrote:
>>> Oh, I wouldn't flame you.
>>>
>>> Hmm, I didn't think of using a virtual machine. The Lenovo has a NVidia
>>> 960MX, so I wonder if it would fully work under a virtual machine.
>>
>> Probably not. Normally virtual machine does not have that level of
>> possession of hardware. At least Sun-Oracle Virtual Box doesn't.
>> Somebody
>> may correct me if I'm wrong here. If I were to do it, I would choose as
>> host system the system your software requiring OpenGL is available for.
>> And add other systems you need in virtual machines. Laptops, though
>> powerful these days, still not the best choice for virtual machines
>> IMHO.
>>
>> Valeri
>>
>>>
>>> The reason why I ask is that I do systems adminstration with
>>> meteorological
>>> software that requires OpenGL 2.0 and at least 2GB of video ram.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your reply, Mike.
>>>
>>> Brian Bernard
>>> On Apr 27, 2016 10:43 PM, "Mike Mohr"  wrote:

 Don't flame me, but I really recommend using Ubuntu on laptops. If you
 really want CentOS, you should go with version 7. Many new laptops
 won't
 work well with that either though.

 CentOS 6 only works well these days on older hardware or on virtual
 machines.
 On Apr 27, 2016 7:27 PM, "Brian Bernard"
 
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Y700 Notebook, and wondering if it
 would
 work with CentOS 6. Or if anyone has experience with using it under
 CentOS
 6. I assume that the WiFi could be an issue as it uses an Intel 8260
 card.
 I want to make the correct decision.

 Thank you,

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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Brian Bernard]

Thank you, Andreas and Valeri for your replies.

Brian Bernard

On Apr 28, 2016 2:41 AM, "Andreas Benzler"  wrote:
>
> Hello Brain,
>
> for such new software you go with Centos 7. The older version is more
rocket stable,
> but in case you use such new laptop the newer one is the better / best
choice.
>
> You need to upgrade the kernel, there is no  way out. Centos  deliver
„only“
> 2.6 or 3.10.
>
> http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-lt or http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml
> can fix this.
>
> - Totem and multimedia isn’t work fully. Gstreamer is cut down.
>
> Yesterday I installed my laptop with new hardware and most of it  fully
work,
> but it was hard to go. Why ? Take a look at my private repo
http://centos.cms4all.org/centos/7/
> What it does? Update Kernel, Drivers, Mesa , GStreamer, Gutenprint
(printers). I’m
> liite bit of centos 7 and in this parts I’m on my own.
>
> Don’t flame me - Ubuntu LTS 16.04 is on the way and this should work for
you.
>
> The new nvidia series 9 will come with kernel 4.5 as i know (open source
part)
>
> Greatings
>
> Andy
>
> > Am 28.04.2016 um 05:47 schrieb Valeri Galtsev :
> >
> >
> > On Wed, April 27, 2016 10:07 pm, Brian Bernard wrote:
> >> Oh, I wouldn't flame you.
> >>
> >> Hmm, I didn't think of using a virtual machine. The Lenovo has a NVidia
> >> 960MX, so I wonder if it would fully work under a virtual machine.
> >
> > Probably not. Normally virtual machine does not have that level of
> > possession of hardware. At least Sun-Oracle Virtual Box doesn't.
Somebody
> > may correct me if I'm wrong here. If I were to do it, I would choose as
> > host system the system your software requiring OpenGL is available for.
> > And add other systems you need in virtual machines. Laptops, though
> > powerful these days, still not the best choice for virtual machines
IMHO.
> >
> > Valeri
> >
> >>
> >> The reason why I ask is that I do systems adminstration with
> >> meteorological
> >> software that requires OpenGL 2.0 and at least 2GB of video ram.
> >>
> >> Thank you for your reply, Mike.
> >>
> >> Brian Bernard
> >> On Apr 27, 2016 10:43 PM, "Mike Mohr"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Don't flame me, but I really recommend using Ubuntu on laptops. If you
> >>> really want CentOS, you should go with version 7. Many new laptops
won't
> >>> work well with that either though.
> >>>
> >>> CentOS 6 only works well these days on older hardware or on virtual
> >>> machines.
> >>> On Apr 27, 2016 7:27 PM, "Brian Bernard" 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Y700 Notebook, and wondering if it
would
> >>> work with CentOS 6. Or if anyone has experience with using it under
> >>> CentOS
> >>> 6. I assume that the WiFi could be an issue as it uses an Intel 8260
> >>> card.
> >>> I want to make the correct decision.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Brian Bernard
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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Andreas Benzler]

Hello Brain,

for such new software you go with Centos 7. The older version is more rocket 
stable,
but in case you use such new laptop the newer one is the better / best choice.

You need to upgrade the kernel, there is no  way out. Centos  deliver „only“ 
2.6 or 3.10.

http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-lt or http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml
can fix this.

- Totem and multimedia isn’t work fully. Gstreamer is cut down.

Yesterday I installed my laptop with new hardware and most of it  fully work,
but it was hard to go. Why ? Take a look at my private repo 
http://centos.cms4all.org/centos/7/
What it does? Update Kernel, Drivers, Mesa , GStreamer, Gutenprint (printers). 
I’m
liite bit of centos 7 and in this parts I’m on my own.

Don’t flame me - Ubuntu LTS 16.04 is on the way and this should work for you.

The new nvidia series 9 will come with kernel 4.5 as i know (open source part)

Greatings

Andy

> Am 28.04.2016 um 05:47 schrieb Valeri Galtsev :
> 
> 
> On Wed, April 27, 2016 10:07 pm, Brian Bernard wrote:
>> Oh, I wouldn't flame you.
>> 
>> Hmm, I didn't think of using a virtual machine. The Lenovo has a NVidia
>> 960MX, so I wonder if it would fully work under a virtual machine.
> 
> Probably not. Normally virtual machine does not have that level of
> possession of hardware. At least Sun-Oracle Virtual Box doesn't. Somebody
> may correct me if I'm wrong here. If I were to do it, I would choose as
> host system the system your software requiring OpenGL is available for.
> And add other systems you need in virtual machines. Laptops, though
> powerful these days, still not the best choice for virtual machines IMHO.
> 
> Valeri
> 
>> 
>> The reason why I ask is that I do systems adminstration with
>> meteorological
>> software that requires OpenGL 2.0 and at least 2GB of video ram.
>> 
>> Thank you for your reply, Mike.
>> 
>> Brian Bernard
>> On Apr 27, 2016 10:43 PM, "Mike Mohr"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't flame me, but I really recommend using Ubuntu on laptops. If you
>>> really want CentOS, you should go with version 7. Many new laptops won't
>>> work well with that either though.
>>> 
>>> CentOS 6 only works well these days on older hardware or on virtual
>>> machines.
>>> On Apr 27, 2016 7:27 PM, "Brian Bernard" 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Y700 Notebook, and wondering if it would
>>> work with CentOS 6. Or if anyone has experience with using it under
>>> CentOS
>>> 6. I assume that the WiFi could be an issue as it uses an Intel 8260
>>> card.
>>> I want to make the correct decision.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Brian Bernard
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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Wed, April 27, 2016 10:07 pm, Brian Bernard wrote:
> Oh, I wouldn't flame you.
>
> Hmm, I didn't think of using a virtual machine. The Lenovo has a NVidia
> 960MX, so I wonder if it would fully work under a virtual machine.

Probably not. Normally virtual machine does not have that level of
possession of hardware. At least Sun-Oracle Virtual Box doesn't. Somebody
may correct me if I'm wrong here. If I were to do it, I would choose as
host system the system your software requiring OpenGL is available for.
And add other systems you need in virtual machines. Laptops, though
powerful these days, still not the best choice for virtual machines IMHO.

Valeri

>
> The reason why I ask is that I do systems adminstration with
> meteorological
> software that requires OpenGL 2.0 and at least 2GB of video ram.
>
> Thank you for your reply, Mike.
>
> Brian Bernard
> On Apr 27, 2016 10:43 PM, "Mike Mohr"  wrote:
>>
>> Don't flame me, but I really recommend using Ubuntu on laptops. If you
>> really want CentOS, you should go with version 7. Many new laptops won't
>> work well with that either though.
>>
>> CentOS 6 only works well these days on older hardware or on virtual
>> machines.
>> On Apr 27, 2016 7:27 PM, "Brian Bernard" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Y700 Notebook, and wondering if it would
>> work with CentOS 6. Or if anyone has experience with using it under
>> CentOS
>> 6. I assume that the WiFi could be an issue as it uses an Intel 8260
>> card.
>> I want to make the correct decision.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Brian Bernard
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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Wed, April 27, 2016 10:12 pm, Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 04/27/2016 07:43 PM, Mike Mohr wrote:
>> Don't flame me, but I really recommend using Ubuntu on laptops. If you
>> really want CentOS, you should go with version 7. Many new laptops won't
>> work well with that either though.
>
> CentOS 7 works fine on my T410 thinkpad but that's not a new laptop...
>
> I use to use Ubuntu on the desktop but I stopped when they believed it
> was okay to send information I searched for my local workstation to
> Amazon without asking me first.
>
> I can not support any distribution that believes it is okay to do that
> sort of thing.
>
> Maybe it would have been okay if it had been opt-in, but it wasn't opt-in.

I would first try CentOS 7, second Debain. I have the same feelings about
Ubuntu as Alice does. I also do tend to avoid Lenovo after they were
caught installing malware on Windows system the ship. You can search for
superfish and lenovo. Once caught, they stopped it. But once caught one
looses my trust for very-very long. I would look for Dell if I were
needing laptop without much trouble installing Linux on it - you can find
one certified for Ubuntu (sigh) and shipped with it. Just wipe Ubuntu, and
install system of your choice. For myself I got Toshiba ultrabook U904,
had no trouble to make it dual boot: Windows and CentOS 7 (all worked on
Linux side including touch screen, not much fanciness in Linux as far as
touch screen is concerned, but I kind of don't like touching my screen
anyway). Now, however, I wiped both systems and run only FreeBSD on
Toshiba ultrabook U904. Compared to Linux took me a bit of effort, but I
like it more that way.

I hope, others will mention other hardware choices (I figure, Lenovo
really set me off by what they did, sorry Lenovo fans).

I hope, this helps.

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Alice Wonder]

On 04/27/2016 07:43 PM, Mike Mohr wrote:

Don't flame me, but I really recommend using Ubuntu on laptops. If you
really want CentOS, you should go with version 7. Many new laptops won't
work well with that either though.


CentOS 7 works fine on my T410 thinkpad but that's not a new laptop...

I use to use Ubuntu on the desktop but I stopped when they believed it 
was okay to send information I searched for my local workstation to 
Amazon without asking me first.


I can not support any distribution that believes it is okay to do that 
sort of thing.


Maybe it would have been okay if it had been opt-in, but it wasn't opt-in.

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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Brian Bernard]

Oh, I wouldn't flame you.

Hmm, I didn't think of using a virtual machine. The Lenovo has a NVidia
960MX, so I wonder if it would fully work under a virtual machine.

The reason why I ask is that I do systems adminstration with meteorological
software that requires OpenGL 2.0 and at least 2GB of video ram.

Thank you for your reply, Mike.

Brian Bernard
On Apr 27, 2016 10:43 PM, "Mike Mohr"  wrote:
>
> Don't flame me, but I really recommend using Ubuntu on laptops. If you
> really want CentOS, you should go with version 7. Many new laptops won't
> work well with that either though.
>
> CentOS 6 only works well these days on older hardware or on virtual
> machines.
> On Apr 27, 2016 7:27 PM, "Brian Bernard" 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Y700 Notebook, and wondering if it would
> work with CentOS 6. Or if anyone has experience with using it under CentOS
> 6. I assume that the WiFi could be an issue as it uses an Intel 8260 card.
> I want to make the correct decision.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Bernard
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Re: [CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Mike Mohr]

Don't flame me, but I really recommend using Ubuntu on laptops. If you
really want CentOS, you should go with version 7. Many new laptops won't
work well with that either though.

CentOS 6 only works well these days on older hardware or on virtual
machines.
On Apr 27, 2016 7:27 PM, "Brian Bernard" 
wrote:

Hi all,

I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Y700 Notebook, and wondering if it would
work with CentOS 6. Or if anyone has experience with using it under CentOS
6. I assume that the WiFi could be an issue as it uses an Intel 8260 card.
I want to make the correct decision.

Thank you,

Brian Bernard
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[CentOS] Any CentOS 6 Issues on Lenovo Y700?

[Brian Bernard]

Hi all,

I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Y700 Notebook, and wondering if it would
work with CentOS 6. Or if anyone has experience with using it under CentOS
6. I assume that the WiFi could be an issue as it uses an Intel 8260 card.
I want to make the correct decision.

Thank you,

Brian Bernard
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