Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
nate a écrit : Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? Wenn wir zum Guten dieser Welt gelangen, Dann heißt das Beßre Trug und Wahn. (Goethe, Faust I) Roughly meaning: once we've found the good things in this world, the better things are there to lure us and become our new obsession. Cheers, Niki(happy with 5.3 :oD) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
if needed i can help seeding the torrents with 2 machines, both .de 1gbit cheers Paul Berger wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Yves Bellefeuille y...@storm.ca wrote: If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? Not to fan the fire more ... but I see 5.4 on the tracker http://torrent.centos.org:6969/ So it should be soon. Paul ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 22:17 -0400, Jim Wildman wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Les Mikesell wrote: Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? There is always the risk that a critical security vulnerability will be discovered with the fix only made available in an update to 5.4. Obviated by the fact that these bits (or their very closely related kin-bits) have already been in production (via RHEL) for at least a month. I was wondering the same thing earlier...why the rush? What new feature is there that everyone MUST HAVE NOW!! KVM support could be one. Although I don't think thats THAT big of a deal to be making such a fuss about. -- Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE j...@rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. Thomas Paine ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- M. Hamzah Khan RedHat Certified Engineer Number: 804005539516829 Email: ham...@hamzahkhan.com URL: http://www.hamzahkhan.com Mobile: +44 (0)7525663951 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thus nate spake: | Yves Bellefeuille wrote: | If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was | made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that | the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the | release. | | Could the same be done this time? | | Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives | the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? That's exactly *not* the point. I have to confess that I mailed (to a moderated list) exactly the same question to centos-mirror-announce yesterday. Because... | Me I always like | to wait at least a week or two to see if others run into issues, | and wait for the mirrors to become less clogged. ...this is exactly what the torrents would do: Take load off of the mirrors :) It's not about 'having it here first'. I really appreciate to release ``when it's ready'' instead of a given, maybe anounced point in time. ;) | nate Timo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFK2CRcfg746kcGBOwRAk+uAJwKTK8/hoRSn8ktzCXHa9KXgk9QAwCgsG2B 95LQCBX6uoms0KURkYIVeAQ= =TAgW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
nate schrieb: Yves Bellefeuille wrote: If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? Me I always like to wait at least a week or two to see if others run into issues, and wait for the mirrors to become less clogged. Kvm, fuse, ext4, xfs, updated bnx2 drivers, Systemtap ... Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 16:01 -0700, nate wrote: Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? Me I always like to wait at least a week or two to see if others run into issues, and wait for the mirrors to become less clogged. nate But if we all take the same stance, then where will you get your baseline to help determine if there are any issues with new packages? ak. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Yves Bellefeuille y...@storm.ca wrote: If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? Not to fan the fire more ... but I see 5.4 on the tracker http://torrent.centos.org:6969/ So it should be soon. Paul ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? -- Yves Bellefeuille y...@storm.ca Yves Bellefeuille: Eterna malvenkanto en UEA -- Heroldo Komunikas, n-ro 389 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? -- Yves Bellefeuille y...@storm.ca Yves Bellefeuille: Eterna malvenkanto en UEA -- Heroldo Komunikas, n-ro 389 Wow! Does patience is a virtue ring a bell? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
Yves Bellefeuille wrote: If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? Me I always like to wait at least a week or two to see if others run into issues, and wait for the mirrors to become less clogged. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
Yves Bellefeuille wrote: If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? Me I always like to wait at least a week or two Thats it? I figured you for conservative/common sense type :) I'm waiting for the minor rel on the kernel. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
nate wrote: Yves Bellefeuille wrote: If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? There is always the risk that a critical security vulnerability will be discovered with the fix only made available in an update to 5.4. Me I always like to wait at least a week or two to see if others run into issues, and wait for the mirrors to become less clogged. It won't do you any good to wait forever if someone doesn't run it to find the issues. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
Les Mikesell wrote: nate wrote: Yves Bellefeuille wrote: If I remember correctly, when version 5.3 was released, about 95% was made available by BitTorrent before the official release date, so that the entire file would be available as soon as possible after the release. Could the same be done this time? Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? There is always the risk that a critical security vulnerability will be discovered with the fix only made available in an update to 5.4. Me I always like to wait at least a week or two to see if others run into issues, and wait for the mirrors to become less clogged. It won't do you any good to wait forever if someone doesn't run it to find the issues. Judging by the list traffic with 5.4 in the subject, a lack of early testers won't be an issue. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Les Mikesell wrote: Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? There is always the risk that a critical security vulnerability will be discovered with the fix only made available in an update to 5.4. Obviated by the fact that these bits (or their very closely related kin-bits) have already been in production (via RHEL) for at least a month. I was wondering the same thing earlier...why the rush? What new feature is there that everyone MUST HAVE NOW!! -- Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE j...@rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. Thomas Paine ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4 and BitTorrent
Jim Wildman wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Les Mikesell wrote: Could someone describe to me what the rush is? I mean what drives the need that you need to have it _right now_ ? There is always the risk that a critical security vulnerability will be discovered with the fix only made available in an update to 5.4. Obviated by the fact that these bits (or their very closely related kin-bits) have already been in production (via RHEL) for at least a month. How does that obviate anything? Most vulnerabilities have lurked in deployed code for years before someone figures out how to exploit them. You need to be prepared to fix them before the exploit becomes widely known - which can be pretty much instantly after discovery. I was wondering the same thing earlier...why the rush? What new feature is there that everyone MUST HAVE NOW!! You need to have these versions running in your test environments if you want to be confident that you can update production servers without problems. And you never know when the discovery of a new exploit will force you to update. I guess you are feeling lucky. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
