Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-05 Thread David G. Miller



On 10/5/19 2:47 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

On 10/5/19 3:14 AM, David G. Miller wrote:

On 10/4/19 6:59 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 04:52:28PM -0600, David G. Miller wrote:

On 10/3/19 1:37 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

On 10/3/19 5:49 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

Hi,

I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing
from you
and thanks in advance.


In short, CentOS 7.x is based on Fedora 19 while CentOS 8 is based on
Fedora 28. Most of what is in those Fedora's is also in coresponding
CentOS version. Fedora's might be much easier to compare.




This sort of cuts across two discussion threads but I found this one
first.  Silly question: has anyone tried using the Mate or Xfce
Fedora 28 spins as package sources with CentOS 8?

I think someone did post recently that he took Mate from F28
and with some judicious tweaking of the spec file got it built
and working on C8. Sorry, I have no details.



Hopefully, the perpetrator will 'fess up and provide the details.

Cheers,
Dave


"It is I, Leclerc"

Here is what I did to have working MATE from Fedora 28 repositories (did
not recompile anything):

https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2019-September/173533.html

Thanks!  Since I'm an Xfce type, I'll go that route first.  I'm thinking 
that the same process has a good chance of working as long as the 
dependencies are the right version.  I'll post steps of road blocks.


BTW, I tend to be more the Inspector Clouseau type!

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-05 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS
On Sat, 2019-10-05 at 10:47 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> On 10/5/19 3:14 AM, David G. Miller wrote:
> > On 10/4/19 6:59 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 04:52:28PM -0600, David G. Miller wrote:
> > > > On 10/3/19 1:37 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> > > > > On 10/3/19 5:49 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the
> > > > > > differences
> > > > > > between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to
> > > > > > hearing
> > > > > > from you
> > > > > > and thanks in advance.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > In short, CentOS 7.x is based on Fedora 19 while CentOS 8 is
> > > > > based on
> > > > > Fedora 28. Most of what is in those Fedora's is also in
> > > > > coresponding
> > > > > CentOS version. Fedora's might be much easier to compare.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > This sort of cuts across two discussion threads but I found
> > > > this one
> > > > first.  Silly question: has anyone tried using the Mate or Xfce
> > > > Fedora 28 spins as package sources with CentOS 8?
> > > I think someone did post recently that he took Mate from F28
> > > and with some judicious tweaking of the spec file got it built
> > > and working on C8. Sorry, I have no details.
> > > 
> > > 
> > Hopefully, the perpetrator will 'fess up and provide the details.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
> > 
> 
> "It is I, Leclerc"
> 
> Here is what I did to have working MATE from Fedora 28 repositories
> (did
> not recompile anything):
> 
> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2019-September/173533.html
> 

This is great information, Ljubomir. Thank you very much. I'll try to
validate your process this weekend using F28 as you did. That should
yield an older MATE v1.16. With that in hand, I'll try to re-run the 
procedure using the counterpart MATE v1.22 packages from Rawhide.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right?

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Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/5/19 3:14 AM, David G. Miller wrote:
> On 10/4/19 6:59 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 04:52:28PM -0600, David G. Miller wrote:
>>> On 10/3/19 1:37 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>>> On 10/3/19 5:49 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
>>>>> between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing
>>>>> from you
>>>>> and thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>> In short, CentOS 7.x is based on Fedora 19 while CentOS 8 is based on
>>>> Fedora 28. Most of what is in those Fedora's is also in coresponding
>>>> CentOS version. Fedora's might be much easier to compare.
>> 
>>
>>> This sort of cuts across two discussion threads but I found this one
>>> first.  Silly question: has anyone tried using the Mate or Xfce
>>> Fedora 28 spins as package sources with CentOS 8?
>> I think someone did post recently that he took Mate from F28
>> and with some judicious tweaking of the spec file got it built
>> and working on C8. Sorry, I have no details.
>>
>>
> Hopefully, the perpetrator will 'fess up and provide the details.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 

"It is I, Leclerc"

Here is what I did to have working MATE from Fedora 28 repositories (did
not recompile anything):

https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2019-September/173533.html

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Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-04 Thread David G. Miller

On 10/4/19 6:59 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 04:52:28PM -0600, David G. Miller wrote:

On 10/3/19 1:37 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

On 10/3/19 5:49 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

Hi,

I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing from you
and thanks in advance.


In short, CentOS 7.x is based on Fedora 19 while CentOS 8 is based on
Fedora 28. Most of what is in those Fedora's is also in coresponding
CentOS version. Fedora's might be much easier to compare.




This sort of cuts across two discussion threads but I found this one
first.  Silly question: has anyone tried using the Mate or Xfce
Fedora 28 spins as package sources with CentOS 8?

I think someone did post recently that he took Mate from F28
and with some judicious tweaking of the spec file got it built
and working on C8. Sorry, I have no details.



Hopefully, the perpetrator will 'fess up and provide the details.

Cheers,
Dave

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Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-04 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 04:52:28PM -0600, David G. Miller wrote:
> On 10/3/19 1:37 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> >On 10/3/19 5:49 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
> >>between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing from you
> >>and thanks in advance.
> >>
> >In short, CentOS 7.x is based on Fedora 19 while CentOS 8 is based on
> >Fedora 28. Most of what is in those Fedora's is also in coresponding
> >CentOS version. Fedora's might be much easier to compare.



> This sort of cuts across two discussion threads but I found this one
> first.  Silly question: has anyone tried using the Mate or Xfce
> Fedora 28 spins as package sources with CentOS 8?

I think someone did post recently that he took Mate from F28
and with some judicious tweaking of the spec file got it built
and working on C8. Sorry, I have no details.


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Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-04 Thread David G. Miller

On 10/3/19 1:37 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

On 10/3/19 5:49 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

Hi,

I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing from you
and thanks in advance.


In short, CentOS 7.x is based on Fedora 19 while CentOS 8 is based on
Fedora 28. Most of what is in those Fedora's is also in coresponding
CentOS version. Fedora's might be much easier to compare.




Best Regards,

Kaushal
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This sort of cuts across two discussion threads but I found this one 
first.  Silly question: has anyone tried using the Mate or Xfce Fedora 
28 spins as package sources with CentOS 8?


I'm not a fan of Gnome 3 so would like to get Xfce up and running on 
CentOS 8 with a minimum of effort.  I'm thinking the folks asking about 
Mate in the other thread have the same sentiment.


Cheers,
Dave

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Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-03 Thread Kay Schenk



On 10/3/19 12:37 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

On 10/3/19 5:49 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

Hi,

I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing from you
and thanks in advance.


In short, CentOS 7.x is based on Fedora 19 while CentOS 8 is based on
Fedora 28. Most of what is in those Fedora's is also in coresponding
CentOS version. Fedora's might be much easier to compare.


Thank you for this simple analogy. Not even close to being ready for 
CentOS 8 but a good reference for when I am.







Best Regards,

Kaushal
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Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-03 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/3/19 5:49 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
> between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing from you
> and thanks in advance.
> 

In short, CentOS 7.x is based on Fedora 19 while CentOS 8 is based on
Fedora 28. Most of what is in those Fedora's is also in coresponding
CentOS version. Fedora's might be much easier to compare.



> Best Regards,
> 
> Kaushal
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Re: [CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 03/10/2019 à 17:49, Kaushal Shriyan a écrit :
> I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
> between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing from you
> and thanks in advance.

Here you go :

  *
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html/considerations_in_adopting_rhel_8/index

Cheers,

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[CentOS] Differences between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS

2019-10-03 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi,

I will appreciate it if someone can help me understand the differences
between CentOS 7.x and CentOS 8.x OS. I look forward to hearing from you
and thanks in advance.

Best Regards,

Kaushal
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