Re: [CentOS] Extreme frustration with GIMP

[Leroy Tennison]

Well, I mis-spoke, Ctrl-Z can undo some things, not others.  Sorry.

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From: "Leroy Tennison" <le...@datavoiceint.com>
To: "centos" <centos@centos.org>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 12:38:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Extreme frustration with GIMP

I saw Fred's later reply and am glad someone knew how to do it.  I feel your 
pain, the gimp documentation isn't always the best.  If you aren't already 
aware, when your work is suddenly undone, remember that Ctrl-Z (UnDo) is your 
friend.  I found that I had to look for gimp tutorials on the web wherever I 
could and use the one that worked (as you discovered - not all do).  And then 
there were cases where, like you did, posting on a forum produced far better 
results than hours of web search.

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From: "Alice Wonder" <al...@domblogger.net>
To: "centos" <centos@centos.org>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:42:01 AM
Subject: [CentOS] Extreme frustration with GIMP

I am not a graphics person. Also can't afford to hire one.

Trying to follow instructions at 
https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-separate.html

I use the "intelligent scissors" just like they say, spend quite a bit 
of effort doing so.

Then click the foreground select tool - just like they say - and 
suddenly everything I did with the intelligent tool is undone.

WTF?

Does anyone know of an actual GIMP tutorial for removing background that 
doesn't cause me to throw a damn brick through my monitor?

Photoshop makes it easy, but clearly GIMP developers have a completely 
different philosophy on how a graphics tool should work and I can't 
figure out what their philosophy is.
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Re: [CentOS] Extreme frustration with GIMP

[m . roth]

Alice Wonder wrote:
> I am not a graphics person. Also can't afford to hire one.
>
> Trying to follow instructions at
> https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-separate.html
>
> I use the "intelligent scissors" just like they say, spend quite a bit
> of effort doing so.
>
> Then click the foreground select tool - just like they say - and
> suddenly everything I did with the intelligent tool is undone.
>
> WTF?
>
> Does anyone know of an actual GIMP tutorial for removing background that
> doesn't cause me to throw a damn brick through my monitor?

Don't do that, does nasty things to a budget.

Don't know a tutorial, either, and their tools do operate in an, um,
interesting manner. That being said... I dunno if I've used the
intelligent scissors tool, but I'd expect to use a select tool, *then* a
scissors.

Feel free to talk or rant to me offlist.

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Re: [CentOS] Extreme frustration with GIMP

[Leroy Tennison]

I saw Fred's later reply and am glad someone knew how to do it.  I feel your 
pain, the gimp documentation isn't always the best.  If you aren't already 
aware, when your work is suddenly undone, remember that Ctrl-Z (UnDo) is your 
friend.  I found that I had to look for gimp tutorials on the web wherever I 
could and use the one that worked (as you discovered - not all do).  And then 
there were cases where, like you did, posting on a forum produced far better 
results than hours of web search.

- Original Message -
From: "Alice Wonder" <al...@domblogger.net>
To: "centos" <centos@centos.org>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:42:01 AM
Subject: [CentOS] Extreme frustration with GIMP

I am not a graphics person. Also can't afford to hire one.

Trying to follow instructions at 
https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-separate.html

I use the "intelligent scissors" just like they say, spend quite a bit 
of effort doing so.

Then click the foreground select tool - just like they say - and 
suddenly everything I did with the intelligent tool is undone.

WTF?

Does anyone know of an actual GIMP tutorial for removing background that 
doesn't cause me to throw a damn brick through my monitor?

Photoshop makes it easy, but clearly GIMP developers have a completely 
different philosophy on how a graphics tool should work and I can't 
figure out what their philosophy is.
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Re: [CentOS] Extreme frustration with GIMP

[fred roller]

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Alice Wonder  wrote:

> Does anyone know of an actual GIMP tutorial for removing background


Use the intelligent scissors as you did.  Right click inside the section
and choose copy. Right click anywhere and choose Edit -> Paste As -> As New
Image.  This should get you off to a good start.  Here is a link to GIMP
communities who can better assist you learn the GIMP way and would love to
here your input on the UI as well.  I am not a graphics person either but
this method has been the simplest


https://www.gimp.org/links/#clubs

-- Fred
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[CentOS] Extreme frustration with GIMP

[Alice Wonder]

I am not a graphics person. Also can't afford to hire one.

Trying to follow instructions at 
https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-separate.html


I use the "intelligent scissors" just like they say, spend quite a bit 
of effort doing so.


Then click the foreground select tool - just like they say - and 
suddenly everything I did with the intelligent tool is undone.


WTF?

Does anyone know of an actual GIMP tutorial for removing background that 
doesn't cause me to throw a damn brick through my monitor?


Photoshop makes it easy, but clearly GIMP developers have a completely 
different philosophy on how a graphics tool should work and I can't 
figure out what their philosophy is.

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