Re: [CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[Johnny Hughes]

On 04/28/2016 07:51 AM, isdtor wrote:
> Johnny Hughes writes:
> [...] 
>> I should have the CentOS-6 (and CentOS-5) version of Firefox 45 out in a
>> couple of minutes .. currently building metadata and testing them on
>> https://ci.centos.org/
> 
> Broken, at least on CentOS5. The same file/addon download problem that has 
> plagued every new update release in I don't remember how long. File downloads 
> go to 99% and then stop, or don't even start.

With respect to CentOS-5, it seems this patch was not migrated to the
45.0.1 install:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1025187

from this bugzilla:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1221368

Let me build a version with that patch installed for testing.  I'll post
here when it can be tested.



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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[isdtor]

Johnny Hughes writes:
[...] 
> I should have the CentOS-6 (and CentOS-5) version of Firefox 45 out in a
> couple of minutes .. currently building metadata and testing them on
> https://ci.centos.org/

Broken, at least on CentOS5. The same file/addon download problem that has 
plagued every new update release in I don't remember how long. File downloads 
go to 99% and then stop, or don't even start.

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[Johnny Hughes]

On 04/27/2016 10:36 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Johnny Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> On 04/27/2016 09:23 AM, James Pearson wrote:
>>> Phil Wyett wrote:
 On Wed, 2016-04-27 at 08:27 -0400, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> The latest version of firefox, 46.0 requires GTK3 and so it fails on
> CentOS
> 6.7.
>
> I know there is the ESR release supplied by upstream, but that is
> based on
> version 38. We have regularly installed the Mozilla "Linux" version of
> Firefox in a central location for our users, and this has worked just
> fine
> until 46.0. (I note from
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ that even
> that ESR
> release is due to stop being supported soon).
>
> I filed a bugzilla report at
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267815. If this matters
>> to
> you, please consider tagging onto that bug.
>
> Yes, yes we have to upgrade to CentOS 7. But in our shop, the amount of
> work required to get this done is huge, and won't happen soon.
>
> The whole idea of using RHEL/CentOS is to have a stable, supported
> version
> for a long period of time. How can we do this if even a web browser
> won't
> work?
>

 Hi,

 The latest firefox ESR for RHEL/CentOS 5, 6 and 7 is 45.1. That version
 should appear in CentOS updates when Mr Hughes has worked his magic.

 With 46 not being an ESR and not released for RHEL/CentOS, it is not
 really something most here would be too worried about.
>>>
>>> Mozilla still (currently) support GTK2 as a build option - so if want to
>>> run Firefox 46 (and above) on CentOS 6, then you will need to build it
>>> from source
>>>
>>> You might be able to start with the 45.1 SRPM and hack the spec file to
>>> build 46.0 ...
>>
>> Or just use the ESR version that Red Hat releases :)
>>
>> ESR is updated at intervals, and it went from 38 to 45, will go up again
>> in 6 or 7 releases again.
>>
>> Things move on (like firefox) while enterprise distros purposely have a
>> slower cadence.  Fedora has GTK3 and all the other bells and whistles.
>> If that is the type of cadence you want, Fedora is an excellent distro.
>>
>> I should have the CentOS-6 (and CentOS-5) version of Firefox 45 out in a
>> couple of minutes .. currently building metadata and testing them on
>> https://ci.centos.org/
>>
>> CentOS-7 version of Firefox 45 was released yesterday.
>>
>>
>>
> Thanks Johnny. Getting the ESR release up to 45 for CO6 is good enough for
> us while we work on CO7.
> 
> I didn't realize the ESR would ever move off of 38.x.
> 
> 

FYI .. Here is the ESR program, run by Mozilla.  Red Hat usually is very
quick to move, usually at the 'MAJOR.1' release (in this case 45.1).
You can see the next rebase will be version 52.  So we will likely move
from 45.7 or 45.8 to 52.0 or 52.1.  Unless they do something that makes
it completely incompatible with a CentOS version.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/





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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[isdtor]

 
> I should have the CentOS-6 (and CentOS-5) version of Firefox 45 out in a
> couple of minutes .. currently building metadata and testing them on
> https://ci.centos.org/

Btw. this is the first ESR after the controversial removal of the "ask me every 
time" cookie policy. When the new browser is started for the first time, it 
will reset cookie policy to the default "keep until they expire".

Something to look out for

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[Phelps, Matthew]

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Johnny Hughes  wrote:

> On 04/27/2016 09:23 AM, James Pearson wrote:
> > Phil Wyett wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2016-04-27 at 08:27 -0400, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> >>> The latest version of firefox, 46.0 requires GTK3 and so it fails on
> >>> CentOS
> >>> 6.7.
> >>>
> >>> I know there is the ESR release supplied by upstream, but that is
> >>> based on
> >>> version 38. We have regularly installed the Mozilla "Linux" version of
> >>> Firefox in a central location for our users, and this has worked just
> >>> fine
> >>> until 46.0. (I note from
> >>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ that even
> >>> that ESR
> >>> release is due to stop being supported soon).
> >>>
> >>> I filed a bugzilla report at
> >>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267815. If this matters
> to
> >>> you, please consider tagging onto that bug.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, yes we have to upgrade to CentOS 7. But in our shop, the amount of
> >>> work required to get this done is huge, and won't happen soon.
> >>>
> >>> The whole idea of using RHEL/CentOS is to have a stable, supported
> >>> version
> >>> for a long period of time. How can we do this if even a web browser
> >>> won't
> >>> work?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The latest firefox ESR for RHEL/CentOS 5, 6 and 7 is 45.1. That version
> >> should appear in CentOS updates when Mr Hughes has worked his magic.
> >>
> >> With 46 not being an ESR and not released for RHEL/CentOS, it is not
> >> really something most here would be too worried about.
> >
> > Mozilla still (currently) support GTK2 as a build option - so if want to
> > run Firefox 46 (and above) on CentOS 6, then you will need to build it
> > from source
> >
> > You might be able to start with the 45.1 SRPM and hack the spec file to
> > build 46.0 ...
>
> Or just use the ESR version that Red Hat releases :)
>
> ESR is updated at intervals, and it went from 38 to 45, will go up again
> in 6 or 7 releases again.
>
> Things move on (like firefox) while enterprise distros purposely have a
> slower cadence.  Fedora has GTK3 and all the other bells and whistles.
> If that is the type of cadence you want, Fedora is an excellent distro.
>
> I should have the CentOS-6 (and CentOS-5) version of Firefox 45 out in a
> couple of minutes .. currently building metadata and testing them on
> https://ci.centos.org/
>
> CentOS-7 version of Firefox 45 was released yesterday.
>
>
>
Thanks Johnny. Getting the ESR release up to 45 for CO6 is good enough for
us while we work on CO7.

I didn't realize the ESR would ever move off of 38.x.


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System Administrator, Computation Facility
Harvard - Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[Johnny Hughes]

On 04/27/2016 09:23 AM, James Pearson wrote:
> Phil Wyett wrote:
>> On Wed, 2016-04-27 at 08:27 -0400, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
>>> The latest version of firefox, 46.0 requires GTK3 and so it fails on
>>> CentOS
>>> 6.7.
>>>
>>> I know there is the ESR release supplied by upstream, but that is
>>> based on
>>> version 38. We have regularly installed the Mozilla "Linux" version of
>>> Firefox in a central location for our users, and this has worked just
>>> fine
>>> until 46.0. (I note from
>>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ that even
>>> that ESR
>>> release is due to stop being supported soon).
>>>
>>> I filed a bugzilla report at
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267815. If this matters to
>>> you, please consider tagging onto that bug.
>>>
>>> Yes, yes we have to upgrade to CentOS 7. But in our shop, the amount of
>>> work required to get this done is huge, and won't happen soon.
>>>
>>> The whole idea of using RHEL/CentOS is to have a stable, supported
>>> version
>>> for a long period of time. How can we do this if even a web browser
>>> won't
>>> work?
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The latest firefox ESR for RHEL/CentOS 5, 6 and 7 is 45.1. That version
>> should appear in CentOS updates when Mr Hughes has worked his magic.
>>
>> With 46 not being an ESR and not released for RHEL/CentOS, it is not
>> really something most here would be too worried about.
> 
> Mozilla still (currently) support GTK2 as a build option - so if want to
> run Firefox 46 (and above) on CentOS 6, then you will need to build it
> from source
> 
> You might be able to start with the 45.1 SRPM and hack the spec file to
> build 46.0 ...

Or just use the ESR version that Red Hat releases :)

ESR is updated at intervals, and it went from 38 to 45, will go up again
in 6 or 7 releases again.

Things move on (like firefox) while enterprise distros purposely have a
slower cadence.  Fedora has GTK3 and all the other bells and whistles.
If that is the type of cadence you want, Fedora is an excellent distro.

I should have the CentOS-6 (and CentOS-5) version of Firefox 45 out in a
couple of minutes .. currently building metadata and testing them on
https://ci.centos.org/

CentOS-7 version of Firefox 45 was released yesterday.




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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[James Pearson]

Phil Wyett wrote:

On Wed, 2016-04-27 at 08:27 -0400, Phelps, Matthew wrote:

The latest version of firefox, 46.0 requires GTK3 and so it fails on CentOS
6.7.

I know there is the ESR release supplied by upstream, but that is based on
version 38. We have regularly installed the Mozilla "Linux" version of
Firefox in a central location for our users, and this has worked just fine
until 46.0. (I note from
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ that even that ESR
release is due to stop being supported soon).

I filed a bugzilla report at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267815. If this matters to
you, please consider tagging onto that bug.

Yes, yes we have to upgrade to CentOS 7. But in our shop, the amount of
work required to get this done is huge, and won't happen soon.

The whole idea of using RHEL/CentOS is to have a stable, supported version
for a long period of time. How can we do this if even a web browser won't
work?



Hi,

The latest firefox ESR for RHEL/CentOS 5, 6 and 7 is 45.1. That version
should appear in CentOS updates when Mr Hughes has worked his magic.

With 46 not being an ESR and not released for RHEL/CentOS, it is not
really something most here would be too worried about.


Mozilla still (currently) support GTK2 as a build option - so if want to 
run Firefox 46 (and above) on CentOS 6, then you will need to build it 
from source


You might be able to start with the 45.1 SRPM and hack the spec file to 
build 46.0 ...


James

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[Phil Wyett]

On Wed, 2016-04-27 at 08:27 -0400, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> The latest version of firefox, 46.0 requires GTK3 and so it fails on CentOS
> 6.7.
> 
> I know there is the ESR release supplied by upstream, but that is based on
> version 38. We have regularly installed the Mozilla "Linux" version of
> Firefox in a central location for our users, and this has worked just fine
> until 46.0. (I note from
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ that even that ESR
> release is due to stop being supported soon).
> 
> I filed a bugzilla report at
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267815. If this matters to
> you, please consider tagging onto that bug.
> 
> Yes, yes we have to upgrade to CentOS 7. But in our shop, the amount of
> work required to get this done is huge, and won't happen soon.
> 
> The whole idea of using RHEL/CentOS is to have a stable, supported version
> for a long period of time. How can we do this if even a web browser won't
> work?
> 

Hi,

The latest firefox ESR for RHEL/CentOS 5, 6 and 7 is 45.1. That version
should appear in CentOS updates when Mr Hughes has worked his magic.

With 46 not being an ESR and not released for RHEL/CentOS, it is not
really something most here would be too worried about.

Regards

Phil



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[CentOS] Firefox 46.0 fails on CentOS 6.7 due to GTK3 requirement

[Phelps, Matthew]

The latest version of firefox, 46.0 requires GTK3 and so it fails on CentOS
6.7.

I know there is the ESR release supplied by upstream, but that is based on
version 38. We have regularly installed the Mozilla "Linux" version of
Firefox in a central location for our users, and this has worked just fine
until 46.0. (I note from
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ that even that ESR
release is due to stop being supported soon).

I filed a bugzilla report at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267815. If this matters to
you, please consider tagging onto that bug.

Yes, yes we have to upgrade to CentOS 7. But in our shop, the amount of
work required to get this done is huge, and won't happen soon.

The whole idea of using RHEL/CentOS is to have a stable, supported version
for a long period of time. How can we do this if even a web browser won't
work?

-- 
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System Administrator, Computation Facility
Harvard - Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
mphe...@cfa.harvard.edu, http://www.cfa.harvard.edu
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