Re: [CentOS] GNOME issue. Seeking Guidance.
Daniel de Kok wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is anyone who has experianced this, can you please give me further guidance. I have tried everything below, and still can not get anything to come up with GNOME. If pirut is started from a terminal as a normal user. Does it actually say what modules are missing? And please start it in a Gnome terminal directly and not via putty on a windows machine which doesn't have an X server ... Cheers, Ralph pgpKheNDLKZeF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] GNOME issue. Seeking Guidance.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is anyone who has experianced this, can you please give me further guidance. I have tried everything below, and still can not get anything to come up with GNOME. If pirut is started from a terminal as a normal user. Does it actually say what modules are missing? Take care, Daniel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] GNOME issue. Seeking Guidance.
Below is what has been documented on this issue, and I am needing further guidance. Essetially, I am running in GNOME, but it isn't working properly. Can some one help. |--| |I am new to the Centos ISO and was looking for a forum, when I came across this. If it isn't something you can help, | |can you help point me in the right direction? Here are the answers you requested from me: | | | |I go to the applications menu at the top left and click to pull down | |I click on Add/Remove Software but nothing happens. | | | |I am using GNOME | | | |I go to the system menu at the top left and click to pull down, and then click admin and then click network. Nothing | |happens. | | | |It is like the GNOME is not working properly. It did work until I pulled down the software updates after the initial | |intstallation. | | | |Again, thank you. | |--| |--| |There are several ways to get help with CentOS: | | | |The CentOS web forums are at http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/ [^] | |The CentOS email lists are at http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos [^] | |Realtime forums (IRC) can be found via http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=8 [^] | | | |In your case, I am expecting that the pirut or system-helper command are not working correctly. Please try the| |following. | | | |Right click on the desktop and choose Open Terminal. In the terminal type pirut. A popup window should occur asking | |for the root password. If it doesnt, then there is a permission problem that might have 'broken' during an update.| | | |In the terminal type ls -l /usr/bin/pirut. And you should get output like the following:| | | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/pirut | |lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Apr 12 2007 /usr/bin/pirut - consolehelper* | | | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/consolehelper | |-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5920 Mar 14 2007 /usr/bin/consolehelper* | | | | | |If it is a permission problem, we can try the following:
Re: [CentOS] GNOME issue. Seeking Guidance.
If there is anyone who has experianced this, can you please give me further guidance. I have tried everything below, and still can not get anything to come up with GNOME. Strangest thing. Somehow, it worked prior to installing the centos updates and Zenoss's Network Monitoring utility. Now I can't get it to work to save my life...Not quite sure were to start looking.. Please Advise. Very Respectfully, Christy Below is what has been documented on this issue, and I am needing further guidance. Essetially, I am running in GNOME, but it isn't working properly. Can some one help. |--| |I am new to the Centos ISO and was looking for a forum, when I came across this. If it isn't something you can help, | |can you help point me in the right direction? Here are the answers you requested from me: | | | |I go to the applications menu at the top left and click to pull down | |I click on Add/Remove Software but nothing happens. | | | |I am using GNOME | | | |I go to the system menu at the top left and click to pull down, and then click admin and then click network. Nothing | |happens. | | | |It is like the GNOME is not working properly. It did work until I pulled down the software updates after the initial | |intstallation. | | | |Again, thank you. | |--| |--| |There are several ways to get help with CentOS: | | | |The CentOS web forums are at http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/ [^] | |The CentOS email lists are at http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos [^] | |Realtime forums (IRC) can be found via http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=8 [^] | | | |In your case, I am expecting that the pirut or system-helper command are not working correctly. Please try the| |following. | | | |Right click on the desktop and choose Open Terminal. In the terminal type pirut. A popup window should occur asking | |for the root password. If it doesnt, then there is a permission problem that might have 'broken' during an update.| | | |In the terminal type ls -l /usr/bin/pirut. And you should get output like the following:| | | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/pirut | |lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Apr 12 2007 /usr/bin/pirut - consolehelper* | | | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/consolehelper | |-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5920 Mar 14 2007 /usr/bin/consolehelper* | | | | | |If it is a permission problem, we can try the following: | | | |1) Login as root (in the terminal window you can do a su - root | |2) Type the following: | |/sbin/restorecon -R -v /etc /usr /sbin /bin /var | | | |This will take a long time, but it should restore selinux permissions to some items that either zenoss or an update | |accidently broke | | | |After this command finishes try the following: | |Top Menu - Applications - Add/Remove Software | | | |If it pops up now.. then it was an selinux item. If it does not then there is a problem with consolehelper talking| |getting root which might have occured with the zenoss install. I would first check with them to see if it is a known | |issue on their part, and then with the forums. | | | |/usr/bin/consolehelper is a program that allows a normal user to get super-user/administrator rights. So there are 2 | |pirut programs. /usr/bin/pirut calls consolehelper which calls some programs to make sure you can become 'root' If you| |know the root password then it will call /usr/sbin/pirut which is the real program, but only runs as 'root' not a | |normal user. | |--| |---| |Yes and no luck yet. I have contacted Zenoss, however they seem to think it is with Centos. Since it is a free | |utility, they are very reluctant to offer support. If I were to pay, then they would graciously put for the effort | |to help. So I am on my own. I don't mind the CLI, actually I prefer it, but my co-workers are were I am concerned. | |I want them to be able to use it, and be comfortable with it. But with out being able to use the GNOME (GUI). They | |are reluctant to do so. That is my fear. They know nothing about Linux or UNIX, and only know router's and switches| |CLI. If you can offer any guidance, I graciously welcome it all | |---|
Re: [CentOS] GNOME issue. Seeking Guidance.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is anyone who has experianced this, can you please give me further guidance. I have tried everything below, and still can not get anything to come up with GNOME. Strangest thing. Somehow, it worked prior to installing the centos updates and Zenoss's Network Monitoring utility. Now I can't get it to work to save my life...Not quite sure were to start looking.. well, if it works before you did X Y, then either X or Y probably broke it, so I'd probably try to back out Y and see if its OK. Of course, its also possible backing out Y doesn't quite return it to the state it was in prior to the installation of Y, whereupon the next thing to try would be starting over, clean install the base system, verify functionality, install X (the centos updates) and verify functionality, then try Y (Zenoss) again... if it breaks only after that last step, the logical conclusion is that something Zenoss did broke it, whereupon I'd have to suggest going back to that community rather than this one. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] GNOME issue. Seeking Guidance.
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 15:47 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Below is what has been documented on this issue, and I am needing further guidance. Essetially, I am running in GNOME, but it isn't working properly. Can some one help. |--| |I am new to the Centos ISO and was looking for a forum, when I came across this. If it isn't something you can help, | |can you help point me in the right direction? Here are the answers you requested from me: | | | |I go to the applications menu at the top left and click to pull down | |I click on Add/Remove Software but nothing happens. | | | |I am using GNOME | | | |I go to the system menu at the top left and click to pull down, and then click admin and then click network. Nothing | |happens. | | | |It is like the GNOME is not working properly. It did work until I pulled down the software updates after the initial | |intstallation. | | | |Again, thank you. | |--| Christy... pirut is the package manager and it could a number of things that could cause that...perhaps a problem with the rpmdb or a problem with your python installation... First...make sure that there isn't a copy of yum or pirut running... service yum-updatesd stop ps aux|grep pirut and kill whatever process shows up... likewise... ps aux|grep yum and kill whatever process shows up then, perhaps just to clean up your rpmdb... rm /var/lib/rpm/__db* # and answer yes to delete each one then rebuild the db... rpm --rebuilddb Then after all that, you might try pirut again...I would venture to guess that most of us don't use the GUI package manager. Is Zenoss running? that uses python so if it's running, python would seem to be working. The logs are your friend.../var/log/messages is where most of this stuff will be logged. Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
