[CentOS] Google-chrome-stable

[Rob Kampen]

Over the last week or so I have noticed that chrome fails to load pages 
- in fact even the setup pages do not load.


Blow away the ~/.config/google-chrome/ files and restart

Seems to work for a little while - then stops again - no other pages load.

I have done the cleanup of the .config/google-chrome directory and then 
with the fresh session tried both with my google account and without any 
account - same result.


I have just done an update in the hope it may fix things so now running 
Version 58.0.3029.110 (64-bit)


What is going on? Firefox is working just fine.

[rkampen@robsc7 google-chrome]$ rpm -qa |grep google
google-chrome-stable-58.0.3029.110-1.x86_64
google-crosextra-caladea-fonts-1.002-0.4.20130214.el7.noarch
google-crosextra-carlito-fonts-1.103-0.2.20130920.el7.noarch

Any suggestions appreciated.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Leon Fauster]

Am 19.04.2016 um 14:03 schrieb "Phelps, Matthew" :
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Johnny Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> It is indeed not completely open source.  I was told that the agreement
>> between Red Hat and Google only allows the RPMs for RHEL to be released
>> to subscribers on the supplemental channel.
>> 
>> Sorry, but I can't release it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> That was my understanding, that we have a "political" (really legal) issue,
> not a technical issue. I hope Karanbir can re-visit this with RedHat.
> 
> Does anyone have a cookbook for building chromium under CentOS 6?


as a starting point:

http://install.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/yum/itecs/public/obsolete/rhel6/SRPMS/
http://install.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/yum/itecs/public/chromium-dev/rhel6/SRPMS/

(chromium-50: 
http://install.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/yum/itecs/public/chromium/fedora24/x86_64/)

Somewhere there is a "readme" file or maybe in the spec file (can't remember)
with explanations about the build environment (SCL dev and lib packages etc.) 
...


> Johnny, do you think you could release the steps you took to build what you
> did?



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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Phelps, Matthew]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Johnny Hughes  wrote:

> On 04/18/2016 09:06 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Karanbir Singh 
> wrote:
> >
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> >>
> >> On 18/04/16 14:15, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> >>> Thanks. I imagine (hope?) there shouldn't be too much effort to get
> >>> this to work, since it's already been done upstream. RedHat
> >>> continues to push out updates even. E.g.
> >>> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0638.html
> >>>
> >>
> >> that looks like Supplementary content - we've never had that before.
> >>
> >> what we might need to do here is work the upstream beyond Red Hat
> >> where this works done, that makes it Supplementary content and not
> >> completely open source. Do we atleast know at this point what that
> >> might be ?
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> - --
> >> Karanbir Singh, Project Lead, The CentOS Project
> >
> >
> > I suspect it has to do with their "pepperflash" flash plugin.
> >
> > Clearly flash is on the way out, so any support for it is not necessary.
> >
>
> It is indeed not completely open source.  I was told that the agreement
> between Red Hat and Google only allows the RPMs for RHEL to be released
> to subscribers on the supplemental channel.
>
> Sorry, but I can't release it.
>
>
>
That was my understanding, that we have a "political" (really legal) issue,
not a technical issue. I hope Karanbir can re-visit this with RedHat.

Does anyone have a cookbook for building chromium under CentOS 6?

Johnny, do you think you could release the steps you took to build what you
did?


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Johnny Hughes]

On 04/18/2016 09:06 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 18/04/16 14:15, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
>>> Thanks. I imagine (hope?) there shouldn't be too much effort to get
>>> this to work, since it's already been done upstream. RedHat
>>> continues to push out updates even. E.g.
>>> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0638.html
>>>
>>
>> that looks like Supplementary content - we've never had that before.
>>
>> what we might need to do here is work the upstream beyond Red Hat
>> where this works done, that makes it Supplementary content and not
>> completely open source. Do we atleast know at this point what that
>> might be ?
>>
>> regards
>>
>> - --
>> Karanbir Singh, Project Lead, The CentOS Project
> 
> 
> I suspect it has to do with their "pepperflash" flash plugin.
> 
> Clearly flash is on the way out, so any support for it is not necessary.
> 

It is indeed not completely open source.  I was told that the agreement
between Red Hat and Google only allows the RPMs for RHEL to be released
to subscribers on the supplemental channel.

Sorry, but I can't release it.



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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Phelps, Matthew]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> On 18/04/16 14:15, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > Thanks. I imagine (hope?) there shouldn't be too much effort to get
> > this to work, since it's already been done upstream. RedHat
> > continues to push out updates even. E.g.
> > https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0638.html
> >
>
> that looks like Supplementary content - we've never had that before.
>
> what we might need to do here is work the upstream beyond Red Hat
> where this works done, that makes it Supplementary content and not
> completely open source. Do we atleast know at this point what that
> might be ?
>
> regards
>
> - --
> Karanbir Singh, Project Lead, The CentOS Project


I suspect it has to do with their "pepperflash" flash plugin.

Clearly flash is on the way out, so any support for it is not necessary.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Karanbir Singh]

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On 18/04/16 14:15, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> Thanks. I imagine (hope?) there shouldn't be too much effort to get
> this to work, since it's already been done upstream. RedHat
> continues to push out updates even. E.g.
> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0638.html
> 

that looks like Supplementary content - we've never had that before.

what we might need to do here is work the upstream beyond Red Hat
where this works done, that makes it Supplementary content and not
completely open source. Do we atleast know at this point what that
might be ?

regards

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Scott Robbins]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 08:55:12AM -0400, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Scott Robbins  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:37:44AM +1200, Peter wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> 
> At present, CentOS-7 works with the rpm for Fedora on Google's site. I
> > don't think RedHat had their own official rpm for either RHEL-6 or 7, did
> > (do) they?
> >
> >
> They do, in their Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Supplementary repository.


Ah, thank you, I hadn't known that.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Phelps, Matthew]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> On 18/04/16 13:34, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I have neither the time, nor expertise to partake in
> > such a project.
>
> is there someone else on here who can help ? I think if we can
> demonstrate some traction, it would go a long way in both the upstream
> engagement and the conversation with Red Hat - since we can then
> demonstrate a communal win.
>
> > Since Mr. Hughes had already gotten earlier versions of chromium
> > to build under CentOS 6 (c.f.
> > http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/chromium/6/), and he indicated it
> > was merely a matter of getting RHEL to give permission for him to
> > redistribute it more "formally" to the community, I was hoping
> > progress had been made with that.
>
> Johnny, can you perhaps quantify the effort a bit ? And if you need
> help what sort of help you might need for this ? I suspect a large
> part of that is just going to be time in day.
>
> > Have you, as the CentOS project lead ever asked RedHat if they can
> > make their version of Chromium for CentOS 6 available for us? If
> > not, can you please?
>
> I havent, but am more than willing to take the question up.
>
> regards,
>
> - --
> Karanbir Singh, Project Lead, The CentOS Project


Thanks. I imagine (hope?) there shouldn't be too much effort to get this to
work, since it's already been done upstream. RedHat continues to push out
updates even. E.g. https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0638.html


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Phelps, Matthew
> Sent: den 18 april 2016 14:34
> To: Karanbir Singh <kbsi...@centos.org>
> Cc: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?
> 
> Have you, as the CentOS project lead ever asked RedHat if they can make
> their version of Chromium for CentOS 6 available for us? If not, can you
> please?
> 
> Since this seems to come up periodically, there is a demand for it out
> there.

Hear, hear!

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Phelps, Matthew]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Scott Robbins  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:37:44AM +1200, Peter wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Right, Johnny Hughes (I think) used to build it, but IIRC he had to stop
> > for reasons that you can find by searching this mailing list.
> >
> > Note that I'm personally not interested in getting chrome to work for
> > CentOS 6, but I have a vested interest in keeping it working in 7, so
> > when the time comes I'll very likely find a solution myself and share it.
>
> I think Richard Lloyd had (has?) versions that work, but are usually a bit
> old.
>

This is just a script that pulls some libraries from a Fedora repo.
Unfortunately that approach won't hold muster with security auditors .

At present, CentOS-7 works with the rpm for Fedora on Google's site. I
> don't think RedHat had their own official rpm for either RHEL-6 or 7, did
> (do) they?
>
>
They do, in their Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Supplementary repository.

c.f.

> I eventually updated to CentOS-7 on my main home machine, so I haven't kept
> up.
>


We have over 150 workstations still on CO 6.7 while we are stuck dealing
with all the changes to our environment necessary to code and test because
of systemd in CO 7.


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Karanbir Singh]

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On 18/04/16 13:34, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> Unfortunately, I have neither the time, nor expertise to partake in
> such a project.

is there someone else on here who can help ? I think if we can
demonstrate some traction, it would go a long way in both the upstream
engagement and the conversation with Red Hat - since we can then
demonstrate a communal win.

> Since Mr. Hughes had already gotten earlier versions of chromium
> to build under CentOS 6 (c.f. 
> http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/chromium/6/), and he indicated it
> was merely a matter of getting RHEL to give permission for him to 
> redistribute it more "formally" to the community, I was hoping
> progress had been made with that.

Johnny, can you perhaps quantify the effort a bit ? And if you need
help what sort of help you might need for this ? I suspect a large
part of that is just going to be time in day.

> Have you, as the CentOS project lead ever asked RedHat if they can
> make their version of Chromium for CentOS 6 available for us? If
> not, can you please?

I havent, but am more than willing to take the question up.

regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Scott Robbins]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:37:44AM +1200, Peter wrote:


> 
> Right, Johnny Hughes (I think) used to build it, but IIRC he had to stop
> for reasons that you can find by searching this mailing list.
> 
> Note that I'm personally not interested in getting chrome to work for
> CentOS 6, but I have a vested interest in keeping it working in 7, so
> when the time comes I'll very likely find a solution myself and share it.

I think Richard Lloyd had (has?) versions that work, but are usually a bit
old.  
At present, CentOS-7 works with the rpm for Fedora on Google's site. I
don't think RedHat had their own official rpm for either RHEL-6 or 7, did
(do) they?

I eventually updated to CentOS-7 on my main home machine, so I haven't kept
up.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Peter]

> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Sorin Srbu 
>> Just recently I started getting the dreaded message about my CentOS 6.7
>> x64-installation wasn't going to be supported anymore by Google Chrome.
>>
>> "This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates because this
>> Linux system will no longer be supported."

I wouldn't worry too much about this until it actually happens.  It
pretty much means that Google is not willing to support running Chrome
on CentOS, but then they never did to begin with anyways, it just so
happens that the statically-built RPM for Fedora runs on CentOS 7
without issue.  It's a scary and pretty much meaningless message.

Eventually Chrome will likely require some newer version of a library
than is available on CentOS 7, this happened in 6 a few years ago, and
when that happens hopefully someone can work on a solution to fix it
(possibly back-porting the newer version of said library).

>> Following the suggestion about installing Chromium instead worked, but it
>> seems to be stuck at an ancient version of the browser.

Right, Johnny Hughes (I think) used to build it, but IIRC he had to stop
for reasons that you can find by searching this mailing list.

Note that I'm personally not interested in getting chrome to work for
CentOS 6, but I have a vested interest in keeping it working in 7, so
when the time comes I'll very likely find a solution myself and share it.


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Phelps, Matthew]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> On 18/04/16 13:14, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > Please answer the original question (again) CentOS folks.
> >
> > Where are we with getting the RHEL version of Chromium available
> > for CentOS?
> >
> > There should be no technical reason why we can't get a working, up
> > to date, and therefore secure version of chromium running on CentOS
> > 6.7!!
>
> Happy to host it, is this something you are working on at the moment
> Matthew ?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> - --
> Karanbir Singh, Project Lead, The CentOS Project
>
>
Unfortunately, I have neither the time, nor expertise to partake in such a
project.

Since Mr. Hughes had already gotten earlier versions of chromium to build
under CentOS 6 (c.f. http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/chromium/6/), and he
indicated it was merely a matter of getting RHEL to give permission for him
to redistribute it more "formally" to the community, I was hoping progress
had been made with that.

Have you, as the CentOS project lead ever asked RedHat if they can make
their version of Chromium for CentOS 6 available for us? If not, can you
please?

Since this seems to come up periodically, there is a demand for it out
there.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Karanbir Singh]

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On 18/04/16 13:14, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> Please answer the original question (again) CentOS folks.
> 
> Where are we with getting the RHEL version of Chromium available
> for CentOS?
> 
> There should be no technical reason why we can't get a working, up
> to date, and therefore secure version of chromium running on CentOS
> 6.7!!

Happy to host it, is this something you are working on at the moment
Matthew ?

Regards,


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Phelps, Matthew]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Sorin Srbu 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just recently I started getting the dreaded message about my CentOS 6.7
> x64-installation wasn't going to be supported anymore by Google Chrome.
>
> "This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates because this
> Linux system will no longer be supported."
>
> Doing some google searches I found this;
>
> http://superuser.com/questions/1011832/this-computer-will-soon-stop-receiving-google-chrome-updates-because-this-linux
>
> Which in itself wasn't too uplifting...
> Following the suggestion about installing Chromium instead worked, but it
> seems to be stuck at an ancient version of the browser.
>
> Recompiling the available Chromium source is of course an option, but not
> for
> me.
> Not unless there are step-by-step guides doing it.
>
> There was a rather long and somewhat heated discussion regarding Chrome on
> CentOS a while ago.
> Was there any real conclusion about Google Chrome on CentOS and how to get
> around this problem?
> Are the views on this matter still infected?
>
> I'm not looking forward to go back to the sluggish Firefox. 8-/
>
> --
> BW,
> Sorin
>

Bump.

Please answer the original question (again) CentOS folks.

Where are we with getting the RHEL version of Chromium available for CentOS?

There should be no technical reason why we can't get a working, up to date,
and therefore secure version of chromium running on CentOS 6.7!!


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Richard
> Sent: den 25 januari 2016 16:19
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?
>
> 
> You're just seeing this now on a 6.7 system? I don't believe that
> google-chrome (as provided from the google repositories) has worked
> (been installable) on Centos-6.x machines for 2 years or more. [I
> just tried to install their current stable-48 on a 6.7 machine and
> got the libstdc++.so.6 dependency issue that broke this some time
> ago.]

Correct, on a CentOS 6.7 x64-system, it just started popping up about a week
ago.

The Richard Lloyd-solution (are you The Richard Lloyd providing the
install-script for Chrome?) has been working fine so far for me, flawlessly
even.
I'm just not quite sure what will happen in march, with the provided
solution from http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/.


> With Centos-7 you'll see that warning banner if/when you update to
> 48. That release has been in beta since mid-december:
>  <https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2015-December/156726.html>
> 
> and was just pushed out from their "stable" channel late last week.
> 
> My message in mid-december didn't elicit any real solution, but
> maybe that it's now hitting the stable release for Centos-7 there
> might be more interest.

I'd really like an official solution trickling down from RHEL.
The script works fine, but it's, well rather ghetto. 8-)

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Leon Fauster
> Sent: den 25 januari 2016 17:03
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?
>
> 
> upstream provide a EL6 supplementary repository with chromium-browser.
> the emphasis lies on upstreams distribution. sources not available.

This wasn't by any chance those that gave an error of some kind?

I believe Richard Lloyd linked to the below (non)solution.
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/523213


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Richard]

> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 07:18:06 +
> From: Sorin Srbu 
>
> Hi all,
> 
> Just recently I started getting the dreaded message about my
> CentOS 6.7  x64-installation wasn't going to be supported anymore
> by Google Chrome.
> 
> "This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
> because this  Linux system will no longer be supported."
> 
> Doing some google searches I found this;
> http://superuser.com/questions/1011832/this-computer-will-soon-sto
> p-receiving-google-chrome-updates-because-this-linux
> 
> Which in itself wasn't too uplifting...
> Following the suggestion about installing Chromium instead worked,
> but it  seems to be stuck at an ancient version of the browser.
> 
> Recompiling the available Chromium source is of course an option,
> but not for  me.
> Not unless there are step-by-step guides doing it.
> 
> There was a rather long and somewhat heated discussion regarding
> Chrome on  CentOS a while ago.
> Was there any real conclusion about Google Chrome on CentOS and
> how to get  around this problem?
> Are the views on this matter still infected?
> 
> I'm not looking forward to go back to the sluggish Firefox. 8-/

You're just seeing this now on a 6.7 system? I don't believe that
google-chrome (as provided from the google repositories) has worked
(been installable) on Centos-6.x machines for 2 years or more. [I
just tried to install their current stable-48 on a 6.7 machine and
got the libstdc++.so.6 dependency issue that broke this some time
ago.]

With Centos-7 you'll see that warning banner if/when you update to
48. That release has been in beta since mid-december:
 

and was just pushed out from their "stable" channel late last week.

My message in mid-december didn't elicit any real solution, but
maybe that it's now hitting the stable release for Centos-7 there
might be more interest.


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Александр Кириллов]

Was there any real conclusion about Google Chrome on CentOS and how to 
get

around this problem?


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Leon Fauster]

Am 25.01.2016 um 16:19 schrieb Richard :
> 
> 
>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 07:18:06 +
>> From: Sorin Srbu 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just recently I started getting the dreaded message about my
>> CentOS 6.7  x64-installation wasn't going to be supported anymore
>> by Google Chrome.
>> 
>> "This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
>> because this  Linux system will no longer be supported."
>> 
>> Doing some google searches I found this;
>> http://superuser.com/questions/1011832/this-computer-will-soon-sto
>> p-receiving-google-chrome-updates-because-this-linux
>> 
>> Which in itself wasn't too uplifting...
>> Following the suggestion about installing Chromium instead worked,
>> but it  seems to be stuck at an ancient version of the browser.
>> 
>> Recompiling the available Chromium source is of course an option,
>> but not for  me.
>> Not unless there are step-by-step guides doing it.
>> 
>> There was a rather long and somewhat heated discussion regarding
>> Chrome on  CentOS a while ago.
>> Was there any real conclusion about Google Chrome on CentOS and
>> how to get  around this problem?
>> Are the views on this matter still infected?
>> 
>> I'm not looking forward to go back to the sluggish Firefox. 8-/
> 
> You're just seeing this now on a 6.7 system? I don't believe that
> google-chrome (as provided from the google repositories) has worked
> (been installable) on Centos-6.x machines for 2 years or more. [I
> just tried to install their current stable-48 on a 6.7 machine and
> got the libstdc++.so.6 dependency issue that broke this some time
> ago.]
> 
> With Centos-7 you'll see that warning banner if/when you update to
> 48. That release has been in beta since mid-december:
> 
> 
> and was just pushed out from their "stable" channel late last week.
> 
> My message in mid-december didn't elicit any real solution, but
> maybe that it's now hitting the stable release for Centos-7 there
> might be more interest.


upstream provide a EL6 supplementary repository with chromium-browser. 
the emphasis lies on upstreams distribution. sources not available. 

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[CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi all,

Just recently I started getting the dreaded message about my CentOS 6.7 
x64-installation wasn't going to be supported anymore by Google Chrome.

"This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates because this 
Linux system will no longer be supported."

Doing some google searches I found this;
http://superuser.com/questions/1011832/this-computer-will-soon-stop-receiving-google-chrome-updates-because-this-linux

Which in itself wasn't too uplifting...
Following the suggestion about installing Chromium instead worked, but it 
seems to be stuck at an ancient version of the browser.

Recompiling the available Chromium source is of course an option, but not for 
me.
Not unless there are step-by-step guides doing it.

There was a rather long and somewhat heated discussion regarding Chrome on 
CentOS a while ago.
Was there any real conclusion about Google Chrome on CentOS and how to get 
around this problem?
Are the views on this matter still infected?

I'm not looking forward to go back to the sluggish Firefox. 8-/

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Jonathan Billings]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 09:38:40PM +, Richard wrote:
> On the linked-to help page:
> 
>  
> 
> they show fedora-21[+] as supported. If I remember correctly,
> RHEL/CentOS-7 is based against fedora-19.

Actually, in two places on that page they say:

"Ubuntu 12.04+, Debian 7+, OpenSuSE 13.1+, or Fedora Linux 21"

No plus (+) after the 21.

I assume it must be a typo, since f21 left support on the 1st of this
month.  The fact that their documentation is poorly maintained is just
another bit of evidence that no one seems to care.  Either that, or
Google doesn't support Chrome on any supported version of RHEL or
Fedora.  I guess I have to switch to OpenSuSE.

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Richard]

> Date: Friday, December 18, 2015 08:34:36 -0500
> From: Jonathan Billings 
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 09:38:40PM +, Richard wrote:
>> On the linked-to help page:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> they show fedora-21[+] as supported. If I remember correctly,
>> RHEL/CentOS-7 is based against fedora-19.
> 
> Actually, in two places on that page they say:
> 
> "Ubuntu 12.04+, Debian 7+, OpenSuSE 13.1+, or Fedora Linux 21"
> 
> No plus (+) after the 21.
> 
> I assume it must be a typo, since f21 left support on the 1st of
> this month.  The fact that their documentation is poorly
> maintained is just another bit of evidence that no one seems to
> care.  Either that, or Google doesn't support Chrome on any
> supported version of RHEL or Fedora.  I guess I have to switch to
> OpenSuSE.

Right. I put the "+" in square brackets because, knowing that
fedora-21 is EOL, I assumed that they meant to include more recent
releases too (as they indicated with the "+" on the other linux
spins). 

I am curious as to what's in FC21+, but not in ~FC19, that might be
about to cause things to break. I looked through the various
discussions linked from:



but didn't see anything obvious, but it may be too early for the
changes to be mentioned.

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Fri, December 18, 2015 7:34 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 09:38:40PM +, Richard wrote:
>> On the linked-to help page:
>>
>>  
>>
>> they show fedora-21[+] as supported. If I remember correctly,
>> RHEL/CentOS-7 is based against fedora-19.
>
> Actually, in two places on that page they say:
>
> "Ubuntu 12.04+, Debian 7+, OpenSuSE 13.1+, or Fedora Linux 21"
>
> No plus (+) after the 21.
>
> I assume it must be a typo, since f21 left support on the 1st of this
> month.  The fact that their documentation is poorly maintained is just
> another bit of evidence that no one seems to care.  Either that, or
> Google doesn't support Chrome on any supported version of RHEL or
> Fedora.  I guess I have to switch to OpenSuSE.
>


I guess we all are divided into two categories

1. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
choice, the hell with that crap (and google itself).

2. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
choice, I'll use whatever mighty google orders me (even if it is MS
Windows ? ).



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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[zep]

On 12/18/2015 08:34 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 09:38:40PM +, Richard wrote:
> "Ubuntu 12.04+, Debian 7+, OpenSuSE 13.1+, or Fedora Linux 21" No plus
> (+) after the 21. I assume it must be a typo, since f21 left support
> on the 1st of this month. The fact that their documentation is poorly
> maintained is just another bit of evidence that no one seems to care.
> Either that, or Google doesn't support Chrome on any supported version
> of RHEL or Fedora. I guess I have to switch to OpenSuSE. 

it could also be an indictment of Fedora itself, in effect saying 'well,
it worked on 21, but we have no idea WTF batcrap craziness will be
coming out of them next... so.   good luck with that.'


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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Always Learning]

On Fri, 2015-12-18 at 09:55 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> 
> I guess we all are divided into two categories
> 
> 1. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
> choice, the hell with that crap (and google itself).
> 
> 2. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
> choice, I'll use whatever mighty google orders me (even if it is MS
> Windows ? ).
> 
> 

(3)  If its Google, apart from the search engine, I will not use it
because its the biggest intelligence gathering operation on the entire
planet.

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Jonathan Billings]

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 09:55:39AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> I guess we all are divided into two categories
> 
> 1. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
> choice, the hell with that crap (and google itself).
> 
> 2. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
> choice, I'll use whatever mighty google orders me (even if it is MS
> Windows ? ).
> 
> 

Maybe its possible that one works someplace that has all its
email/collaboration/calendars in a Google Apps environment, and has a
central IT org saying to use Chrome for services?  Also, having Chrome
on EL7 was nice because then I didn't have to also track Flash Plugin
updates.  

Last I checked, Google also didn't support the Extended Support
Release of firefox but only the last two releases, which also causes
problems.

My concern isn't really for my personal use of the browser.  Its that
I support classroom and instructional workstations, and not having a
supported browser is just another excuse for management to get rid of
Linux workstations and make everyone use Windows. 

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Fri, December 18, 2015 10:27 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 09:55:39AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> 
>> I guess we all are divided into two categories
>>
>> 1. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
>> choice, the hell with that crap (and google itself).
>>
>> 2. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
>> choice, I'll use whatever mighty google orders me (even if it is MS
>> Windows ? ).
>>
>> 
>
> Maybe its possible that one works someplace that has all its
> email/collaboration/calendars in a Google Apps environment, and has a
> central IT org saying to use Chrome for services?  Also, having Chrome
> on EL7 was nice because then I didn't have to also track Flash Plugin
> updates.
>
> Last I checked, Google also didn't support the Extended Support
> Release of firefox but only the last two releases, which also causes
> problems.
>
> My concern isn't really for my personal use of the browser.  Its that
> I support classroom and instructional workstations, and not having a
> supported browser is just another excuse for management to get rid of
> Linux workstations and make everyone use Windows.
>

Yes, I know. This is why I overcame my laziness and did use "sarcasm" tags
;-)


Indeed, the first thing that happens, UNIX IT heads of institution are
being replaced with Windows brew ones. Then, most of the central services
are outsourced to external companies. Then all central IT everything is
converted to be using google everything. Then finally, on your UNIX
servers you are forced to figure out what to do with darn winmail.dat
crap... you, who considered even html composed e-mail an offense. But what
I'm complaining about? Even logs on our UNIX machines (sorry, Linux, not
UNIX, that slip was purposeful of course) are not plain ASCII but XML
garbage wrapped...


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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Always Learning]

On Fri, 2015-12-18 at 10:49 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:


> 
> Indeed, the first thing that happens, UNIX IT heads of institution are
> being replaced with Windows brew ones. Then, most of the central services
> are outsourced to external companies. Then all central IT everything is
> converted to be using google everything. Then finally, on your UNIX
> servers you are forced to figure out what to do with darn winmail.dat
> crap... you, who considered even html composed e-mail an offense. But what
> I'm complaining about? Even logs on our UNIX machines (sorry, Linux, not
> UNIX, that slip was purposeful of course) are not plain ASCII but XML
> garbage wrapped...
> 

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Richard]

> Date: Friday, December 18, 2015 13:02:37 -0500
> From: m.r...@5-cent.us
>
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, December 18, 2015 10:27 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 09:55:39AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:



This item, which I opened, seems to be getting *way* off-topic. Can
we either refocus on whether "someone in the know" can tell if/what
the issue will likely be with chrome (seemingly likely with ~49),
and if there's potential for mitigation, or close this discussion.

It may just be best to wait until 49 hits their beta release stage
and look at it in more detail at that time.

Thanks.
   
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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Alice Wonder]

On 12/18/2015 10:02 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:



Yep. There IS NO REASON for *any* logfile (or configuration file, for that
matter) to be XML. Logs - if your machine is borked, cat or more may work,
when no other way to view it does. Configuration... XML is for GUI. If the
GUI's already hiding stuff, why not have it write out to *text* files?


XML for configuration is very handy when the configuration file may be 
modified by software, as you can read it into a DOM tree and validate 
before writing back to file.


It also allows you to do things like use an XSLT for displaying the 
configuration is a user friendly way.


Not saying it is always the best way to do things, but it certainly has 
its uses.


sitemap.xml is an excellent example of a configuration file that 
probably should be XML for what it does and how it is used.


Logs, well, I don't have a pro XML argument for those.
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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[m . roth]

Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Fri, December 18, 2015 10:27 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 09:55:39AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess we all are divided into two categories
>>>
>>> 1. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
>>> choice, the hell with that crap (and google itself).
>>>
>>> 2. If google [something] doesn't work on the operating system of my
>>> choice, I'll use whatever mighty google orders me (even if it is MS
>>> Windows ? ).
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> Maybe its possible that one works someplace that has all its
>> email/collaboration/calendars in a Google Apps environment, and has a
>> central IT org saying to use Chrome for services?  Also, having Chrome
>> on EL7 was nice because then I didn't have to also track Flash Plugin
>> updates.
>>
>> Last I checked, Google also didn't support the Extended Support
>> Release of firefox but only the last two releases, which also causes
>> problems.
>>
>> My concern isn't really for my personal use of the browser.  Its that
>> I support classroom and instructional workstations, and not having a
>> supported browser is just another excuse for management to get rid of
>> Linux workstations and make everyone use Windows.
>>
>
> Yes, I know. This is why I overcame my laziness and did use "sarcasm" tags
> ;-)
>
> 
> Indeed, the first thing that happens, UNIX IT heads of institution are
> being replaced with Windows brew ones. Then, most of the central services
> are outsourced to external companies. Then all central IT everything is
> converted to be using google everything. Then finally, on your UNIX
> servers you are forced to figure out what to do with darn winmail.dat
> crap... you, who considered even html composed e-mail an offense. But what
> I'm complaining about? Even logs on our UNIX machines (sorry, Linux, not
> UNIX, that slip was purposeful of course) are not plain ASCII but XML
> garbage wrapped...
> 

Yep. There IS NO REASON for *any* logfile (or configuration file, for that
matter) to be XML. Logs - if your machine is borked, cat or more may work,
when no other way to view it does. Configuration... XML is for GUI. If the
GUI's already hiding stuff, why not have it write out to *text* files?

Just because something is K3WL and NEW!!! doesn't mean you *have* to use
it. That there's a screw, don't use your hammer on it.

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[CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Richard]

I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:

   This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
   because this Linux system will no longer be supported.

Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
months when the underlying changes make their way into their -stable
(since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the centos world
we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?


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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Alice Wonder]

Ouch I don't know. Awhile back I was successfully running midori on 
CentOS but I stopped because it was a PITA to keep porting Fedora spec 
files to CentOS to get it to work, as Fedora diverged more and more.


Maybe there should be a SIG or whatever to maintain webkit browsers for 
CentOS for those who don't like FireFox.


On 12/17/2015 12:37 PM, Richard wrote:

I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:

This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
because this Linux system will no longer be supported.

Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
months when the underlying changes make their way into their -stable
(since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the centos world
we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?


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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Alice Wonder]

Current midori builds in mock, I just tried, but the BuildRequires 
appear to be wrong because not all the extensions are built resulting in 
not all extensions found in %files section being there.


I'll look at the build log and maybe see if there is a way to make it 
work and file bug report with fix + EPEL build request if I can get it 
to work.


I know it's not chrome, but it is webkit and is wicked fast at 
rendering. And it uses gstreamer for html5 which is nice.


On 12/17/2015 12:45 PM, Alice Wonder wrote:

Ouch I don't know. Awhile back I was successfully running midori on
CentOS but I stopped because it was a PITA to keep porting Fedora spec
files to CentOS to get it to work, as Fedora diverged more and more.

Maybe there should be a SIG or whatever to maintain webkit browsers for
CentOS for those who don't like FireFox.

On 12/17/2015 12:37 PM, Richard wrote:

I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:

This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
because this Linux system will no longer be supported.

Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
months when the underlying changes make their way into their -stable
(since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the centos world
we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?


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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Jonathan Billings]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 08:37:32PM +, Richard wrote:
>
> I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
> 48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:
> 
>This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
>because this Linux system will no longer be supported.
> 
> Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
> months when the underlying changes make their way into their -stable
> (since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the centos world
> we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?

I can confirm that I see this on RHEL7 as well, with all the latest
updates. 

It looks like Google doesn't think RHEL7/CentOS7 is "new" enough to
run Chrome.

I suggest providing feedback to Google, perhaps they might consider
dropping RHEL7/CentOS7 support if they get enough feedback, although I
suspect they really couldn't care less about RPM-based distros, most
of their code seems to be all ubuntu-based.

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[m . roth]

Alice Wonder wrote:

> Oh and sorry for the top posting, is there a way in Thunderbird for
> CentOS to change that default?

That's odd, Alice - my t-bird at work, and at home, both set me for bottom
posting. Even in the config editor, I don't seen anything that looks like
that setting to top post.

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Fred Smith]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:28:01PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 08:37:32PM +, Richard wrote:
> >
> > I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
> > 48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:
> > 
> >This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
> >because this Linux system will no longer be supported.
> > 
> > Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
> > months when the underlying changes make their way into their -stable
> > (since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the centos world
> > we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?
> 
> I can confirm that I see this on RHEL7 as well, with all the latest
> updates. 
> 
> It looks like Google doesn't think RHEL7/CentOS7 is "new" enough to
> run Chrome.
> 
> I suggest providing feedback to Google, perhaps they might consider
> dropping RHEL7/CentOS7 support if they get enough feedback, although I
> suspect they really couldn't care less about RPM-based distros, most
> of their code seems to be all ubuntu-based.

seeing as how they don't seem to give a hoot about Ubuntu either
(based on the gymnastics users need to go thru to get Google
Earth to work on Ubuntu) I'm not sure they care much about 
non-chrome Linux distros anyway.


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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Jonathan Billings]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:28:01PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> I suggest providing feedback to Google, perhaps they might consider
> dropping RHEL7/CentOS7 support ...

Err... I mean consider *NOT* dropping RHEL7/CentOS support.

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Thu, December 17, 2015 4:18 pm, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:28:01PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 08:37:32PM +, Richard wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
>> > 48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:
>> >
>> >This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
>> >because this Linux system will no longer be supported.
>> >
>> > Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
>> > months when the underlying changes make their way into their -stable
>> > (since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the centos world
>> > we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?
>>
>> I can confirm that I see this on RHEL7 as well, with all the latest
>> updates.
>>
>> It looks like Google doesn't think RHEL7/CentOS7 is "new" enough to
>> run Chrome.
>>
>> I suggest providing feedback to Google, perhaps they might consider
>> dropping RHEL7/CentOS7 support if they get enough feedback, although I
>> suspect they really couldn't care less about RPM-based distros, most
>> of their code seems to be all ubuntu-based.
>
> seeing as how they don't seem to give a hoot about Ubuntu either
> (based on the gymnastics users need to go thru to get Google
> Earth to work on Ubuntu) I'm not sure they care much about
> non-chrome Linux distros anyway.
>

How not surprising. $$$ is their only concern and has always been.
Disrespecting open source [everything] whereas benefiting from open source
themselves could be one of their mottos.

This really helps to appreciate companies like RedHat even more...

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Alice Wonder]

Nevermind, it wasn't an extensions issue.

The issue looks to be related to the spec file thinking I was running 
Fedora < 19


Given fedora < 19 is EOL removing those conditionals may fix it.

Oh and sorry for the top posting, is there a way in Thunderbird for 
CentOS to change that default?


On 12/17/2015 12:58 PM, Alice Wonder wrote:

Current midori builds in mock, I just tried, but the BuildRequires
appear to be wrong because not all the extensions are built resulting in
not all extensions found in %files section being there.

I'll look at the build log and maybe see if there is a way to make it
work and file bug report with fix + EPEL build request if I can get it
to work.

I know it's not chrome, but it is webkit and is wicked fast at
rendering. And it uses gstreamer for html5 which is nice.

On 12/17/2015 12:45 PM, Alice Wonder wrote:

Ouch I don't know. Awhile back I was successfully running midori on
CentOS but I stopped because it was a PITA to keep porting Fedora spec
files to CentOS to get it to work, as Fedora diverged more and more.

Maybe there should be a SIG or whatever to maintain webkit browsers for
CentOS for those who don't like FireFox.

On 12/17/2015 12:37 PM, Richard wrote:

I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:

This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
because this Linux system will no longer be supported.

Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
months when the underlying changes make their way into their -stable
(since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the centos world
we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?


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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Richard]

> Date: Thursday, December 17, 2015 16:28:01 -0500
> From: Jonathan Billings 
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 08:37:32PM +, Richard wrote:
>> 
>> I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
>> 48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:
>> 
>>This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
>>because this Linux system will no longer be supported.
>> 
>> Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
>> months when the underlying changes make their way into their
>> -stable (since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the
>> centos world we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?
> 
> I can confirm that I see this on RHEL7 as well, with all the latest
> updates. 
> 
> It looks like Google doesn't think RHEL7/CentOS7 is "new" enough to
> run Chrome.
> 
> I suggest providing feedback to Google, perhaps they might consider
> [not] dropping RHEL7/CentOS7 support if they get enough feedback,
> although I suspect they really couldn't care less about RPM-based
> distros, most of their code seems to be all ubuntu-based.

On the linked-to help page:

 

they show fedora-21[+] as supported. If I remember correctly,
RHEL/CentOS-7 is based against fedora-19.


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Re: [CentOS] google chrome future / centos 7

[Fred Smith]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:34:00PM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Thu, December 17, 2015 4:18 pm, Fred Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:28:01PM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 08:37:32PM +, Richard wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'm seeing the following banner when I start up google-chrome
> >> > 48-beta (48.0.2564.48 beta (64-bit)) on my 7.2 machines:
> >> >
> >> >This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates
> >> >because this Linux system will no longer be supported.
> >> >
> >> > Does this portend a support issue for chrome on centos-7 in a few
> >> > months when the underlying changes make their way into their -stable
> >> > (since, as I understand it/as last I remember, in the centos world
> >> > we don't have benefit of the RH chromium release)?
> >>
> >> I can confirm that I see this on RHEL7 as well, with all the latest
> >> updates.
> >>
> >> It looks like Google doesn't think RHEL7/CentOS7 is "new" enough to
> >> run Chrome.
> >>
> >> I suggest providing feedback to Google, perhaps they might consider
> >> dropping RHEL7/CentOS7 support if they get enough feedback, although I
> >> suspect they really couldn't care less about RPM-based distros, most
> >> of their code seems to be all ubuntu-based.
> >
> > seeing as how they don't seem to give a hoot about Ubuntu either
> > (based on the gymnastics users need to go thru to get Google
> > Earth to work on Ubuntu) I'm not sure they care much about
> > non-chrome Linux distros anyway.
> >
> 
> How not surprising. $$$ is their only concern and has always been.
> Disrespecting open source [everything] whereas benefiting from open source
> themselves could be one of their mottos.

true. every release of GE has the same broken RPM that won't install
without hassles, and when installed doesn't work without further
hassles. thank goodness there's someone who posts regularly to the
GE forums who has figured all this out and posted recipes, in some
cases has even built fixed libraries for ubuntu.

as I posted just yesterday he's also posted a recipe for fixing
the broken installation and then making the result work for some older
Fedora, which also happens to work great on C7.


> 
> This really helps to appreciate companies like RedHat even more...

How true, how true!


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Richard
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2015 18:52
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6
>
> On a centos-7 machine where I was having this issue, updating just
> chrome from:
>
>   google-chrome-stable-45.0.2454.101-1.x86_64
>
> to:
>
>   google-chrome-stable-46.0.2490.71-1.x86_64
>
> seemed to resolve this problem.
>
> I realize that the OP is reporting this issue, on C6, with the
> release I just updated to. By the way, I haven't run into this
> problem with the versions from their beta release channel.

The beta channel you mention, would that be the channel called 
google-chrome-unstable-something-or-other, or is there specifically a 
beta-channel as well?

Can't remember seeing something called beta-channel.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6

[Tim Evans]

On 10/19/2015 04:11 PM, Richard wrote:





I was seeing issues like that on centos-7 with a couple of the
recent releases of chrome. What I found was that chrome didn't seem
to be shutting down fully -- leaving a process and the
".com.google.Chrome..." lock file in /tmp. After cleaning those up
chrome would restart without issue. The release that you're running,
which came out a few days ago, seems to have cleared things up for
me.


Thanks, Richard.  Yes, I found 4 or 5 directories (not lock files) named 
".com.google.Chrome..." in /tmp, as well as several running chrome 
processes left over from past exits.



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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6

[Richard]

On a centos-7 machine where I was having this issue, updating just
chrome from:

  google-chrome-stable-45.0.2454.101-1.x86_64

to:

  google-chrome-stable-46.0.2490.71-1.x86_64

seemed to resolve this problem.

I realize that the OP is reporting this issue, on C6, with the
release I just updated to. By the way, I haven't run into this
problem with the versions from their beta release channel.


 Original Message 
> Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 13:58:34 +0100
> From: Nux! 
>
> Yes, I have noticed this as well, both on CentOS 6 and 7.
> Once you exit the application, there are processes left running in
> the background. "killall /opt/google/chrome/chrome" usually takes
> care of them.
> 
> Might want to submit a bug report with Google.
> 
> Or use Firefox. :-)
> 
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> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tim Evans" 
>> Sent: Monday, 19 October, 2015 20:52:03
> 
>> I've installed Google Chrome using the Richard Lloyd
>> 'install-chrome.sh' script (http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/),
>> and am finding a couple of nagging issues.
>> 
>> (Current install is google-chrome-stable-46.0.2490.71-1.x86_64).
>> 
>> First, every time I shut down Chrome and start it back up, it
>> whines about not having been shut down "properly."
>> 
>> Second, and worse, at start up, it complains about not finding my
>> profile, then doesn't remember any logins/passwords.  Even after
>> re-entering such for several sites, the above repeats next time
>> Chrome starts.
>> 
>> Anyone seen/solved this?
>> 
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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Tim Evans
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2015 14:46
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6
>
> > I was seeing issues like that on centos-7 with a couple of the
> > recent releases of chrome. What I found was that chrome didn't seem
> > to be shutting down fully -- leaving a process and the
> > ".com.google.Chrome..." lock file in /tmp. After cleaning those up
> > chrome would restart without issue. The release that you're running,
> > which came out a few days ago, seems to have cleared things up for
> > me.
>
> Thanks, Richard.  Yes, I found 4 or 5 directories (not lock files) named
> ".com.google.Chrome..." in /tmp, as well as several running chrome
> processes left over from past exits.

Thanks for this!

Missed the thread-start.
In any case I had the issues mentioned too, just as the OP describes.

I attributed the problem to using the same Chrome-profile on my work-computer 
(Windows), all three Android-devices (work phone, private phone, private 
tablet) and my home-computer running CentOS 6.7.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6

[Nux!]

Yes, I have noticed this as well, both on CentOS 6 and 7.
Once you exit the application, there are processes left running in the 
background.
"killall /opt/google/chrome/chrome" usually takes care of them.

Might want to submit a bug report with Google.

Or use Firefox. :-)

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- Original Message -
> From: "Tim Evans" <tkev...@tkevans.com>
> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@centos.org>
> Sent: Monday, 19 October, 2015 20:52:03
> Subject: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6

> I've installed Google Chrome using the Richard Lloyd 'install-chrome.sh'
> script (http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/), and am finding a couple of
> nagging issues.
> 
> (Current install is google-chrome-stable-46.0.2490.71-1.x86_64).
> 
> First, every time I shut down Chrome and start it back up, it whines
> about not having been shut down "properly."
> 
> Second, and worse, at start up, it complains about not finding my
> profile, then doesn't remember any logins/passwords.  Even after
> re-entering such for several sites, the above repeats next time Chrome
> starts.
> 
> Anyone seen/solved this?
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6

[Richard]

> Date: Monday, October 19, 2015 15:52:03 -0400
> From: Tim Evans 
>
> I've installed Google Chrome using the Richard Lloyd
> 'install-chrome.sh' script (http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/),
> and am finding a couple of nagging issues.
> 
> (Current install is google-chrome-stable-46.0.2490.71-1.x86_64).
> 
> First, every time I shut down Chrome and start it back up, it
> whines about not having been shut down "properly."
> 
> Second, and worse, at start up, it complains about not finding my
> profile, then doesn't remember any logins/passwords.  Even after
> re-entering such for several sites, the above repeats next time
> Chrome starts.
> 
> Anyone seen/solved this?

I was seeing issues like that on centos-7 with a couple of the
recent releases of chrome. What I found was that chrome didn't seem
to be shutting down fully -- leaving a process and the
".com.google.Chrome..." lock file in /tmp. After cleaning those up
chrome would restart without issue. The release that you're running,
which came out a few days ago, seems to have cleared things up for
me.


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[CentOS] Google Chrome Issues on CentOS 6

[Tim Evans]

I've installed Google Chrome using the Richard Lloyd 'install-chrome.sh' 
script (http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/), and am finding a couple of 
nagging issues.


(Current install is google-chrome-stable-46.0.2490.71-1.x86_64).

First, every time I shut down Chrome and start it back up, it whines 
about not having been shut down "properly."


Second, and worse, at start up, it complains about not finding my 
profile, then doesn't remember any logins/passwords.  Even after 
re-entering such for several sites, the above repeats next time Chrome 
starts.


Anyone seen/solved this?

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Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

[Les Mikesell]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just goes
 direct (which happens to work, I just prefer the proxy which will use
 a different outbound route).   If I go to any non-google site, it uses
 the proxy and will pop up the expected authentication dialog on the
 first connection.   Does anyone know (a) why it bypasses the proxy
 when going to a google site, (b) why it doesn't have its own internal
 proxy settings, or (c) how to fix it?


 Did you configure the proxy for HTTPS? Gmail uses HTTPS exclusively these
 days, the certificate is pinned (hard coded) in Chrome to prevent spoofing,
 maybe the protocol is too. Time for 'tcpdump'?

Yes, that turned out to be the problem.  I had only set http in the
system settings and must have bookmarked/saved the https url so it
didn't even need the initial redirect.

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Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

[Billy Crook]

Makes me wonder what happens if a site uses spdy://


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just goes
  direct (which happens to work, I just prefer the proxy which will use
  a different outbound route).   If I go to any non-google site, it uses
  the proxy and will pop up the expected authentication dialog on the
  first connection.   Does anyone know (a) why it bypasses the proxy
  when going to a google site, (b) why it doesn't have its own internal
  proxy settings, or (c) how to fix it?
 
 
  Did you configure the proxy for HTTPS? Gmail uses HTTPS exclusively these
  days, the certificate is pinned (hard coded) in Chrome to prevent
 spoofing,
  maybe the protocol is too. Time for 'tcpdump'?

 Yes, that turned out to be the problem.  I had only set http in the
 system settings and must have bookmarked/saved the https url so it
 didn't even need the initial redirect.

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Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

[Les Mikesell]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Billy Crook bcr...@riskanalytics.com wrote:
 Makes me wonder what happens if a site uses spdy://


I'd expect that to be the case for chrome talking to gmail.  But it is
supposed to run over https://.

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[CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

[Les Mikesell]

I started using chrome on the RHEL7 beta after some firefox hangs -
but maybe this behavior is generic. I have the system 'network
settings/network proxy' set to use squid on another host for
connections out of the private range we use.   This proxy requires
authentication so I can always tell the first time a browser uses it.
 However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just goes
direct (which happens to work, I just prefer the proxy which will use
a different outbound route).   If I go to any non-google site, it uses
the proxy and will pop up the expected authentication dialog on the
first connection.   Does anyone know (a) why it bypasses the proxy
when going to a google site, (b) why it doesn't have its own internal
proxy settings, or (c) how to fix it?

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Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

[Ljubomir Ljubojevic]

On 06/11/2014 08:10 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 I started using chrome on the RHEL7 beta after some firefox hangs -
 but maybe this behavior is generic. I have the system 'network
 settings/network proxy' set to use squid on another host for
 connections out of the private range we use.   This proxy requires
 authentication so I can always tell the first time a browser uses it.
   However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just goes
 direct (which happens to work, I just prefer the proxy which will use
 a different outbound route).   If I go to any non-google site, it uses
 the proxy and will pop up the expected authentication dialog on the
 first connection.   Does anyone know (a) why it bypasses the proxy
 when going to a google site, (b) why it doesn't have its own internal
 proxy settings, or (c) how to fix it?


As far as I understood, Chrome is in tight connection with Google 
services, possibly hard-coded into it. But to be fair, I only used it 
occasionally when I need to fix something gone wrong with it. I prefer 
Firefox.

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Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

[John R Pierce]

On 6/11/2014 4:57 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 As far as I understood, Chrome is in tight connection with Google
 services, possibly hard-coded into it.

not really, other than the option to connect it to your google profile 
so all your system's browsers can share bookmarks and history.   
otherwise, its just another web browser, one that happens to have a very 
fast/stable version of JavaScript (which is what Google Apps/Documents, 
Maps, etc are implemented in).




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Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

[Gé Weijers]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
wrote:

  However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just goes
 direct (which happens to work, I just prefer the proxy which will use
 a different outbound route).   If I go to any non-google site, it uses
 the proxy and will pop up the expected authentication dialog on the
 first connection.   Does anyone know (a) why it bypasses the proxy
 when going to a google site, (b) why it doesn't have its own internal
 proxy settings, or (c) how to fix it?


Did you configure the proxy for HTTPS? Gmail uses HTTPS exclusively these
days, the certificate is pinned (hard coded) in Chrome to prevent spoofing,
maybe the protocol is too. Time for 'tcpdump'?


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Phelps, Matt]

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:
 On 11/22/2013 01:25 PM, Chris Beattie wrote:
 On 11/22/2013 11:29 AM, Phelps, Matt wrote:
 Most of us using CentOS/RHEL are in an enterprise environment where
 that sort of thing just isn't allowed.

 A supported, updated, secured version of chrome/chromium is essential
 for our CentOS environment, and I venture to guess many others'
 (including RHEL users).
 What happens if there comes a time when Johnny's heavy wizardry isn't enough 
 to keep Chrome running on CentOS?  Or if he just doesn't have time to do it? 
  The browser that you need won't run on the OS which you can't change.  You 
 have a Kobayashi Maru scenario.  You can't win unless you can change the 
 rules.

 I do something similar, but in my case, I provide virtual machines loaded 
 with older versions of Internet Explorer for QA testers.  The testers can't 
 do any permanent damage to the VMs that the hypervisor won't fix when it 
 reverts the VM after the tester logs off.  Meanwhile, the version of IE on 
 the testers' main machines is kept up-to-date.


 BTW, I like chrome, so that is why I am trying to maintain this ... but
 it is GOOGLE who is not maintaining the code to work on EL.

 Just like Google also decided to NOT provide a Google Drive for Linux
 and a bunch of other things.

 I am just about to say screw Google as they don't seem to care about
 enterprise linux at all .. if it isn't android or the absolute latest
 and greatest glibc/gtk/glib combo then they don't want to support it.
 If that is the case, who am I to make their code work for millions of
 users who THEY seem unconcerned about.

 If someone from Google gives a crap about getting chrome working on the
 several million machine universe that is CentOS users, you guys contact
 me and let me know ... otherwise, I'll just assume you don't give a damn.

 Thanks,
 Johnny Hughes
 The CentOS Project


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Oh, I understand! Your efforts have been heroic, and well appreciated. My rant
was (and has been) directed at Google. I definitely want more pressure
on Google from whomever can apply it.

I was hoping there would eventually be a gcc47 in EPEL or some other
repository that may help the situation.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Tru Huynh]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 08:07:21AM -0500, Phelps, Matt wrote:
snip
 
 I was hoping there would eventually be a gcc47 in EPEL or some other
 repository that may help the situation.
gcc47 is available in devtools-1.1 (not out of testing)
gcc48 will be available in devtools-2.0

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Kwan Lowe]

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:


 BTW, I like chrome, so that is why I am trying to maintain this ... but
 it is GOOGLE who is not maintaining the code to work on EL.
 [snip]


I appreciate your efforts on getting it working previously.

At my office there are a bunch of Red Hat and CentOS desktop users. I can't
imagine that we're that much different from a lot of other IT shops.
 Anyhoo, I'm building it via ChromeOS. Haven't gotten everything working
yet, but my hope is to run it within a VM. It's a horrible kludge, but the
alternative is to dispense with the Google versions of sync, documents,
etc..That's looking a lot more attractive :D
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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Johnny Hughes]

On 11/22/2013 01:25 PM, Chris Beattie wrote:
 On 11/22/2013 11:29 AM, Phelps, Matt wrote:
 Most of us using CentOS/RHEL are in an enterprise environment where
 that sort of thing just isn't allowed.

 A supported, updated, secured version of chrome/chromium is essential
 for our CentOS environment, and I venture to guess many others'
 (including RHEL users).
 What happens if there comes a time when Johnny's heavy wizardry isn't enough 
 to keep Chrome running on CentOS?  Or if he just doesn't have time to do it?  
 The browser that you need won't run on the OS which you can't change.  You 
 have a Kobayashi Maru scenario.  You can't win unless you can change the 
 rules.

 I do something similar, but in my case, I provide virtual machines loaded 
 with older versions of Internet Explorer for QA testers.  The testers can't 
 do any permanent damage to the VMs that the hypervisor won't fix when it 
 reverts the VM after the tester logs off.  Meanwhile, the version of IE on 
 the testers' main machines is kept up-to-date.


BTW, I like chrome, so that is why I am trying to maintain this ... but
it is GOOGLE who is not maintaining the code to work on EL.

Just like Google also decided to NOT provide a Google Drive for Linux
and a bunch of other things.

I am just about to say screw Google as they don't seem to care about
enterprise linux at all .. if it isn't android or the absolute latest
and greatest glibc/gtk/glib combo then they don't want to support it. 
If that is the case, who am I to make their code work for millions of
users who THEY seem unconcerned about.

If someone from Google gives a crap about getting chrome working on the
several million machine universe that is CentOS users, you guys contact
me and let me know ... otherwise, I'll just assume you don't give a damn.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes
The CentOS Project



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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Chris Beattie]

On 11/21/2013 11:40 AM, Darr247 wrote:
 On 2013-11-21 @14:41 zulu, Wes James scribed:
 It is with the script on this page:

 http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/
 
 Be aware some on this list consider that script criminal.

At what point does it become less hassle to spin up a virtual machine with a 
distro recent-enough to run the latest Chrome?  Virtualization is a wedge that 
puts more space between your rocks and your hard places.

Just for kicks, I downloaded a Chromium OS image and had it running in VMware 
Player in a few minutes.  It wasn't as snappy as a native install, but it was 
usable.  I could have signed in to Google and picked up my bookmarks if I'd 
wanted.

Having said that, I don't have any experience with either KVM or kidnapping 
libraries from other distros.  I don't know which is harder and/or more fun 
(depends on what you're looking to get out of the experience), but it might be 
an option.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Phelps, Matt]

Most of us using CentOS/RHEL are in an enterprise environment where
that sort of thing just isn't allowed.

A supported, updated, secured version of chrome/chromium is essential
for our CentOS environment, and I venture to guess many others'
(including RHEL users).


On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Chris Beattie cbeat...@geninfo.com wrote:
 On 11/21/2013 11:40 AM, Darr247 wrote:
 On 2013-11-21 @14:41 zulu, Wes James scribed:
 It is with the script on this page:

 http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/

 Be aware some on this list consider that script criminal.

 At what point does it become less hassle to spin up a virtual machine with a 
 distro recent-enough to run the latest Chrome?  Virtualization is a wedge 
 that puts more space between your rocks and your hard places.

 Just for kicks, I downloaded a Chromium OS image and had it running in VMware 
 Player in a few minutes.  It wasn't as snappy as a native install, but it was 
 usable.  I could have signed in to Google and picked up my bookmarks if I'd 
 wanted.

 Having said that, I don't have any experience with either KVM or kidnapping 
 libraries from other distros.  I don't know which is harder and/or more fun 
 (depends on what you're looking to get out of the experience), but it might 
 be an option.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Phelps, Matt]

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Chris Beattie cbeat...@geninfo.com wrote:
 On 11/21/2013 11:40 AM, Darr247 wrote:
 On 2013-11-21 @14:41 zulu, Wes James scribed:
 It is with the script on this page:

 http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/

 Be aware some on this list consider that script criminal.

 At what point does it become less hassle to spin up a virtual machine with a 
 distro recent-enough to run the latest Chrome?  Virtualization is a wedge 
 that puts more space between your rocks and your hard places.

 Just for kicks, I downloaded a Chromium OS image and had it running in VMware 
 Player in a few minutes.  It wasn't as snappy as a native install, but it was 
 usable.  I could have signed in to Google and picked up my bookmarks if I'd 
 wanted.

 Having said that, I don't have any experience with either KVM or kidnapping 
 libraries from other distros.  I don't know which is harder and/or more fun 
 (depends on what you're looking to get out of the experience), but it might 
 be an option.

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Apologies for top posting!! I'll try again:


Most of us using CentOS/RHEL are in an enterprise environment where
that sort of thing just isn't allowed.

A supported, updated, secured version of chrome/chromium is essential
for our CentOS environment, and I venture to guess many others'
(including RHEL users).


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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Chris Beattie]

On 11/22/2013 11:29 AM, Phelps, Matt wrote:
 Most of us using CentOS/RHEL are in an enterprise environment where
 that sort of thing just isn't allowed.
 
 A supported, updated, secured version of chrome/chromium is essential
 for our CentOS environment, and I venture to guess many others'
 (including RHEL users).

What happens if there comes a time when Johnny's heavy wizardry isn't enough to 
keep Chrome running on CentOS?  Or if he just doesn't have time to do it?  The 
browser that you need won't run on the OS which you can't change.  You have a 
Kobayashi Maru scenario.  You can't win unless you can change the rules.

I do something similar, but in my case, I provide virtual machines loaded with 
older versions of Internet Explorer for QA testers.  The testers can't do any 
permanent damage to the VMs that the hypervisor won't fix when it reverts the 
VM after the tester logs off.  Meanwhile, the version of IE on the testers' 
main machines is kept up-to-date.

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[SilverTip257]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been using CentOS on my laptop for a few days now and it works
 great! Great work-around for the Fedora GNOME 3 debacle.

 But I'm starting to miss Google Chrome pretty seriously. Firefox is
 just not what it once was. It's slow. Spell check is weak. Sometimes
 it straight up fails to display pages after going back. There are
 numerous details like this that just make FF almost intolerable. And
 based on current browser usage statistics I don't think I'm the only
 one who sees the difference which means the problem is only going to
 get worse.

 Unfortunately Chrome is not available for CentOS 6.4:

 Error: Package: google-chrome-stable-31.0.1650.57-1.x86_64 (google-chrome)
Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.15)(64bit)

 This page [
 http://www.muktware.com/2013/02/google-says-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-is-obsolete-updated/3970
 ]
 claims:

 Chrome, the browser in question here, is based on the open source
 project Chromium. Chromium developers seems to prefer the new C++11
 for the obvious security reasons and ease of maintenance but it also
 means adopting a new toolchain and upgrading to GCC 4.6. This makes it
 hard to support those operating systems that ship with older C++
 standard libraries. RHEL 6, among many others, is one such operating
 system.

 What is the safest path out of this problem?


If the Chromium builds that Johnny packaged still work, those are what
you'll want to use.
There may be a more recent source than is detailed here however:
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2013-June/135238.html

http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2013/install-chromium-on-centos-red-hat-rhel/



 I am not particularly excited about running a package from a small
 third party. Particularly a browser.

 Is this situation really that bad?

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Johnny Hughes]

On 11/21/2013 11:16 AM, Trutwin, Joshua wrote:
 If the Chromium builds that Johnny packaged still work, those are what you'll
 want to use.
 There may be a more recent source than is detailed here however:
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2013-June/135238.html

 http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2013/install-chromium-on-centos-
 red-hat-rhel/
 Are these still being built / maintained?  The last version I have is 
 28.0.1500.95.  I'm sure Johnny has better things to do.  He mentioned that at 
 some point it might not even be possible to make new builds.


The newest versions actually do not build now on CentOS 6.x ... there
are segfaults.

I will, after we get 6.5 released, give it a try again and see if with
the latest gcc/glibc we can get chrome to build again.



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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Trutwin, Joshua]

 If the Chromium builds that Johnny packaged still work, those are what you'll
 want to use.
 There may be a more recent source than is detailed here however:
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2013-June/135238.html
 
 http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2013/install-chromium-on-centos-
 red-hat-rhel/

Are these still being built / maintained?  The last version I have is 
28.0.1500.95.  I'm sure Johnny has better things to do.  He mentioned that at 
some point it might not even be possible to make new builds.

Thanks,

Josh
 

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Darr247]

On 2013-11-21 @14:41 zulu, Wes James scribed:
 It is with the script on this page:

 http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/

 It grabs the missing libs then installs chrome.



Be aware some on this list consider that script criminal.

http://www.spinics.net/lists/centos/msg139107.html

I used it to install v28 and just got my 5th or 6th update of Chrome 
since then a couple days ago, from the google repo, by the way.
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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

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On 21.11.2013 06:24, Michael B Allen wrote:
 I have been using CentOS on my laptop for a few days now and it works
 great! Great work-around for the Fedora GNOME 3 debacle.
 
 But I'm starting to miss Google Chrome pretty seriously. Firefox is
 just not what it once was. It's slow. Spell check is weak.

The stock Firefox is quite old (just the way I like it), the newest one 
packs quite a lot of changes, you should try it:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/latest/linux-x86_64/

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Re: [CentOS] Google Chrome

[Wes James]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been using CentOS on my laptop for a few days now and it works
 great! Great work-around for the Fedora GNOME 3 debacle.

 But I'm starting to miss Google Chrome pretty seriously. Firefox is
 just not what it once was. It's slow. Spell check is weak. Sometimes
 it straight up fails to display pages after going back. There are
 numerous details like this that just make FF almost intolerable. And
 based on current browser usage statistics I don't think I'm the only
 one who sees the difference which means the problem is only going to
 get worse.

 Unfortunately Chrome is not available for CentOS 6.4:



It is with the script on this page:

http://chrome.richardlloyd.org.uk/

It grabs the missing libs then installs chrome.

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[CentOS] Google Chrome

[Michael B Allen]

I have been using CentOS on my laptop for a few days now and it works
great! Great work-around for the Fedora GNOME 3 debacle.

But I'm starting to miss Google Chrome pretty seriously. Firefox is
just not what it once was. It's slow. Spell check is weak. Sometimes
it straight up fails to display pages after going back. There are
numerous details like this that just make FF almost intolerable. And
based on current browser usage statistics I don't think I'm the only
one who sees the difference which means the problem is only going to
get worse.

Unfortunately Chrome is not available for CentOS 6.4:

Error: Package: google-chrome-stable-31.0.1650.57-1.x86_64 (google-chrome)
   Requires: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.15)(64bit)

This page 
[http://www.muktware.com/2013/02/google-says-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-is-obsolete-updated/3970]
claims:

Chrome, the browser in question here, is based on the open source
project Chromium. Chromium developers seems to prefer the new C++11
for the obvious security reasons and ease of maintenance but it also
means adopting a new toolchain and upgrading to GCC 4.6. This makes it
hard to support those operating systems that ship with older C++
standard libraries. RHEL 6, among many others, is one such operating
system.

What is the safest path out of this problem?

I am not particularly excited about running a package from a small
third party. Particularly a browser.

Is this situation really that bad?

Mike
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Re: [CentOS] google chrome big brother

[Mathieu Baudier]

 am i right, or i'm missing something?

 You are right. Google Chrome OS is Open Source. But with Google
 Chrome OS you can do exactly nothing, because there are no
 applications (even basic UNIX tools are not available). The

My understanding is that Chrome OS is based on Chromium OS, which is
more FLOSS oriented:
http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os

Some months ago I gave a try to this re-build of Chromium OS:
http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/

and it was working (it wasn't updated since last February though).

The wiki says that you can install Ubuntu packages, but I did not try:
http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/wiki/doku.php?id=addingpackages

So it seems possible to extend it (the question is then whether it
would be useful).
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Re: [CentOS] google chrome big brother

[Les Mikesell]

On 12/19/10 9:50 AM, Mathieu Baudier wrote:
 am i right, or i'm missing something?

 You are right. Google Chrome OS is Open Source. But with Google
 Chrome OS you can do exactly nothing, because there are no
 applications (even basic UNIX tools are not available). The

 My understanding is that Chrome OS is based on Chromium OS, which is
 more FLOSS oriented:
 http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os

 Some months ago I gave a try to this re-build of Chromium OS:
 http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/

 and it was working (it wasn't updated since last February though).

 The wiki says that you can install Ubuntu packages, but I did not try:
 http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/wiki/doku.php?id=addingpackages

 So it seems possible to extend it (the question is then whether it
 would be useful).

I thought the point of it was that it is _just_ a browser with nothing stored 
locally except things applications might cache like preference settings.  If 
you 
use cloud based apps (google docs, etc.) I could see this being useful for 
remote access with no configuration - like a spare device you might offer a 
guest or share when traveling, but I don't see why anyone would use it on their 
main computers instead of a full OS plus a browser.

It might be good in an education setting to maintain more control over what is 
permitted, though.  If all apps are remote, a central firewall can block 
anything easily.

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Re: [CentOS] google chrome big brother

[Sven Aluoor]

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:42 PM, S Mathias smathias1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Google Chrome Terms of Service(Google Chrome executable), BSD (source code 
 and Chromium executable except chromium 5 beta),

Please don't send HTML formated mails. Thanks.

 BSD License with proprietary parts (source code and chromium 5 beta 
 executable, as it integrates Adobe Flash Player 10.1[1])[2]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome
 in my interpretation, this means Google Chrome is fully open-source, only the 
 flash player has proprietary codes.
 am i right, or i'm missing something?

You are right. Google Chrome OS is Open Source. But with Google
Chrome OS you can do exactly nothing, because there are no
applications (even basic UNIX tools are not available). The
applications are proprietary web applications, where you loose control
of all your data (your data isn't local, it is in the cloud). It is
the same situation like Google Android; Android is Open Source, but
99% of all mini applications from Android Market are
proprietary/Closed Source. Additionally Android has built in DRM
restrictions.

 i would be happy if someone could correct me.
 thank you!!
 *ps.: because they say google is the big brother

See the statements from Richard Stallman about Google Chrome OS:
http://slashdot.org/story/10/12/14/1713242/Stallman-Worried-About-Chrome-OS.
I guess most UNIX folks (and even Windows power users) will agree.
Also interesting is the comments from Gmail founder:
http://slashdot.org/story/10/12/16/0412220/Gmail-Creator-Says-Chrome-OS-Is-As-Good-As-Dead.
He says 'ChromeOS will be killed next year (or merged with
Android)

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[CentOS] google chrome big brother

[S Mathias]

Google Chrome Terms of Service(Google Chrome executable), BSD (source code and 
Chromium executable except chromium 5 beta),BSD License with proprietary parts 
(source code and chromium 5 beta executable, as it integrates Adobe Flash 
Player 10.1[1])[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome
in my interpretation, this means Google Chrome is fully open-source, only the 
flash player has proprietary codes.
am i right, or i'm missing something?
i would be happy if someone could correct me.
thank you!!
*ps.: because they say google is the big brother


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