Re: [CentOS] How serious are we about not wanting to see...

2014-12-17 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 15/12/14 02:29, Clayton Kirkwood wrote:
 Redhat in centos? I type help and the first line says redhat. Are we
 paranoid about red..t?

Typically the way to look at it is :
- does that string imply that you are running Red Hat Enterprise Linux
- does that string imply this is code curated by Red Hat
- is that an assertion of the product itself

what we want to do is remove Red Hat TM's and replace them with CentOS
content, but we also want to remove content that might imply the code or
the platform or the product is a Red Hat one ( or with support ).

Beyond that for (c) notices and places where there is a red hat string
that implies this is code curated by/at/for Red Hat then thats fine to
leave in. eg: the gcc --version output states Red Hat, since this gcc
codebase is the one maintained upstream.

Finally, when in doubt, bring it up!

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[CentOS] How serious are we about not wanting to see...

2014-12-14 Thread Clayton Kirkwood
Redhat in centos? I type help and the first line says redhat. Are we
paranoid about red..t?

 

Clayton

 

 

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Re: [CentOS] How serious are we about not wanting to see...

2014-12-14 Thread Digimer
I don't see the concern. CentOS is a binary-compatible clone of Red Hat 
Enterprise Linux. Further, Red Hat sponsors and supports the CentOS 
project, providing confidence in it's long-term survival which business 
looking for a flavour linux want to see.


CentOS users should be happy about Red Hat, not scared of it. Likewise, 
CentOS is valuable to Red Hat as it's the source of their future 
customers. So it's a very mutually beneficial relationship.


digimer

On 14/12/14 09:29 PM, Clayton Kirkwood wrote:

Redhat in centos? I type help and the first line says redhat. Are we
paranoid about red..t?



Clayton





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Re: [CentOS] How serious are we about not wanting to see...

2014-12-14 Thread Clayton Kirkwood
Personally, I am agnostic. I've just read thru  Centos documentation that
there is a big effort to remove all upstream personalities from Centos.
Personally, I don't see why RH is doing this. I would think that it
undermines RH. But I'm still new/old to all of this. It used to be the big
argument was between Unix from Berkeley(4.? I think) and SysIII/V. Always
always battles for turf.

Clayton

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I don't see the concern. CentOS is a binary-compatible clone of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux. Further, Red Hat sponsors and supports the CentOS
project, providing confidence in it's long-term survival which business
looking for a flavour linux want to see.

CentOS users should be happy about Red Hat, not scared of it. Likewise,
CentOS is valuable to Red Hat as it's the source of their future
customers. So it's a very mutually beneficial relationship.

digimer

On 14/12/14 09:29 PM, Clayton Kirkwood wrote:
 Redhat in centos? I type help and the first line says redhat. Are we
 paranoid about red..t?



 Clayton





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Re: [CentOS] How serious are we about not wanting to see...

2014-12-14 Thread Digimer
It's a trademark issue. CentOS is not Red Hat, so they can't use Red 
Hat's trademarks. Nothing more, nothing less.


On 14/12/14 09:50 PM, Clayton Kirkwood wrote:

Personally, I am agnostic. I've just read thru  Centos documentation that
there is a big effort to remove all upstream personalities from Centos.
Personally, I don't see why RH is doing this. I would think that it
undermines RH. But I'm still new/old to all of this. It used to be the big
argument was between Unix from Berkeley(4.? I think) and SysIII/V. Always
always battles for turf.

Clayton


-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Digimer
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 6:34 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] How serious are we about not wanting to see...

I don't see the concern. CentOS is a binary-compatible clone of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux. Further, Red Hat sponsors and supports the CentOS
project, providing confidence in it's long-term survival which business
looking for a flavour linux want to see.

CentOS users should be happy about Red Hat, not scared of it. Likewise,
CentOS is valuable to Red Hat as it's the source of their future
customers. So it's a very mutually beneficial relationship.

digimer

On 14/12/14 09:29 PM, Clayton Kirkwood wrote:

Redhat in centos? I type help and the first line says redhat. Are we
paranoid about red..t?



Clayton



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Re: [CentOS] How serious are we about not wanting to see...

2014-12-14 Thread Peter Lawler

On 15/12/14 14:04, Digimer wrote:

It's a trademark issue. CentOS is not Red Hat, so they can't use Red
Hat's trademarks. Nothing more, nothing less.



May be worth nothing that CentOS isn't the only distro that does 
this[1]. It is probably the more well known, though.


Pete.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_derivatives
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