[CentOS] Installing CentOS security updates to RHEL machines? (RHN subscription expired)

2008-11-30 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello,

I hope my question is not annoying. I work as sysadmin
at a 400 users firm and we have around 20 CentOS 4/5
servers and VMs and CentOS is awesome, thank you!

However we have 4 important SAP-servers running RHEL5
and our RHN subscription has unforunately expired and
buying it again is not an option right now. Installing CentOS is
not an option too, because we'd have to pay for SAP-reinstall.

Has anybody have been in a similar situation and figured
out a good way to make yum update on RHEL machines
to work against CentOS repositories?

Regards
Alex
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Re: [CentOS] Installing CentOS security updates to RHEL machines? (RHN subscription expired)

2008-11-30 Thread Kenneth Burgener

Alexander Farber wrote:

Has anybody have been in a similar situation and figured
out a good way to make yum update on RHEL machines
to work against CentOS repositories?
  


The CentOS repositories are just a YUM repository.  Simply add the 
'.repo' file to your '/etc/yum.repos.d/' folder.  You will also need to 
change the '$releasever' to just '5' as rhel uses 'server5'.  I just 
tested this on a minimal install of RHEL 5.2.  Be warned that any 
updated versions of the RPMs will be overridden by the CentOS RPMs, 
which did include the kernel.  Yum is fairly flexible this way.  I am 
not sure how flexible the rhel update plugin will be if you eventually 
renew your subscription and try to go back, though.


Kenneth
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RE: [CentOS] Installing CentOS security updates to RHEL machines?(RHN subscription expired)

2008-11-30 Thread Jim Wildman

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, John wrote:


And to add to that it will break your Contract with SAP!!!

JohnStanley


I always find the sentiments from the management of the original poster
interesting.  They are serious enough about their business to have spent
$$$ on SAP to run the business, then they want to cheap out on the support
contract on the OS.

Very short sighted.

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Re: [CentOS] Installing CentOS security updates to RHEL machines?(RHN subscription expired)

2008-11-30 Thread Alexander Farber
You don't know our situation and already have an opinion.

We already spent 40 Euro for SW licenses this year
(and we have only 400 users). And we're an automotive business,
so I can understand that management tries to save some money.

Regards
Alex

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Jim Wildman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I always find the sentiments from the management of the original poster
 interesting.  They are serious enough about their business to have spent
 $$$ on SAP to run the business, then they want to cheap out on the support
 contract on the OS.

 Very short sighted.

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Re: [CentOS] Installing CentOS security updates to RHEL machines?(RHN subscription expired)

2008-11-30 Thread Fabian Arrotin

Alexander Farber wrote:

You don't know our situation and already have an opinion.

We already spent 40 Euro for SW licenses this year
(and we have only 400 users). And we're an automotive business,
so I can understand that management tries to save some money.

Regards
Alex

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Jim Wildman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I always find the sentiments from the management of the original poster
interesting.  They are serious enough about their business to have spent
$$$ on SAP to run the business, then they want to cheap out on the support
contract on the OS.

Very short sighted.




woaw .. 40 euros and you want to spare 4 x 279 euros (basic RHEL 
subscription) ?

Sorry but i don't get the point ..
Of course you can normally switch to CentOS but for such business 
critical application (and the fact that 4 x 279 euros is nothing against 
SAP price itself) i'd rather continue with RHN subscription .. just my 
two cents of course


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Re: [CentOS] Installing CentOS security updates to RHEL machines?(RHN subscription expired)

2008-11-30 Thread John R Pierce

Alexander Farber wrote:

You don't know our situation and already have an opinion.

We already spent 40 Euro for SW licenses this year
(and we have only 400 users). And we're an automotive business,
so I can understand that management tries to save some money.
  



do you understand that if there is ANY issue which could be an OS 
related problem that even possibly could be caused by mixing builds of 
RPMs, SAP will not support you, and that e400K investment will be near 
worthless?

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Re: [CentOS] Installing CentOS security updates to RHEL machines? (RHN subscription expired)

2008-11-30 Thread Tru Huynh
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 05:02:06PM +0100, Alexander Farber wrote:
 Hello,
 
..
 However we have 4 important SAP-servers running RHEL5
...
 
 Has anybody have been in a similar situation and figured
 out a good way to make yum update on RHEL machines
 to work against CentOS repositories?

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/MigrationGuide

But all the caveats for your $$$ SAP license applies.

Tru
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Re: [CentOS] Installing CentOS security updates to RHEL machines?(RHN subscription expired)

2008-11-30 Thread Jim Wildman

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, John R Pierce wrote:


Alexander Farber wrote:

 You don't know our situation and already have an opinion.

 We already spent 40 Euro for SW licenses this year
 (and we have only 400 users). And we're an automotive business,
 so I can understand that management tries to save some money.




do you understand that if there is ANY issue which could be an OS related 
problem that even possibly could be caused by mixing builds of RPMs, SAP will 
not support you, and that e400K investment will be near worthless?


Actually it is trending towards worthless as soon as SAP says please 
update package X to the latest version from Red Hat and you can't do it.


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