Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On 24/12/10 06:35, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: Greetings, On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/23/2010 10:02 AM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: The licensed vCenter stuff refers to a single app that is simultaneously aware of all of your ESXi servers and their guests and can move/fail resources across servers - concepts that I don't think the other hypervisors even have. Duh.. What is RHEV then? I am in front of the box now. Can you tell me which feature is missing? if any, perhaps we can raise a point with redhat. Maybe this one answers some of your questions ... http://www.redhat.com/virtualization/rhev/server/features-benefits/ kind regards, David Sommerseth ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
I can confirm the socket/cpu limitation is at least 8, at least on ESXi 3.x. I have an 8 core IBM x445 running on a free license. :-) The free and essentials licensing is restricted to max 2 sockets, max 6 cores a socket. The vSphere Essentials license is limited to 3 servers of 2 sockets w/ 6core CPU's each. I have two sites right now running on licensed editions. The ESX/ESXi host is limited to a maximum of 32 logical (sockets x cores x hyperthreading) CPUs. The free license only allows access through the vSphere client and all other features such as vMotion/vStorage/HA are disabled. Otherwise the host's hardware limits are the same. -- Drew Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. --Marie Curie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
I can confirm the socket/cpu limitation is at least 8, at least on ESXi 3.x. I have an 8 core IBM x445 running on a free license. :-) The free and essentials licensing is restricted to max 2 sockets, max 6 cores a socket. The vSphere Essentials license is limited to 3 servers of 2 sockets w/ 6core CPU's each. I have two sites right now running on licensed editions. Correct. The ESX/ESXi host is limited to a maximum of 32 logical (sockets x cores x hyperthreading) CPUs. The free license only allows access through the vSphere client and all other features such as vMotion/vStorage/HA are disabled. Otherwise the host's hardware limits are the same. All the nifty VMware features are technically bound to the existance and functioning of a vCenter Server. It's all controlled by it and without one (reboot, failure, whatever) the VMs will go on running but no vMotion, HA or DRS will work. This is the case for whatever vSphere product and feature set you choose. Of course, beyond the 60 days trial period the vCenter Server must be licensed as well the required number of physical CPUs. The named vSphere Essentials license does not cover vMotion and HA, not to speak about Storage vMotion. Neccessary to choose at least vSphere Essentials Plus. /offtopic Drew Alexander ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On 12/23/2010 10:02 AM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: The ESX/ESXi host is limited to a maximum of 32 logical (sockets x cores x hyperthreading) CPUs. The free license only allows access through the vSphere client and all other features such as vMotion/vStorage/HA are disabled. Otherwise the host's hardware limits are the same. All the nifty VMware features are technically bound to the existance and functioning of a vCenter Server. It's all controlled by it and without one (reboot, failure, whatever) the VMs will go on running but no vMotion, HA or DRS will work. This is the case for whatever vSphere product and feature set you choose. Of course, beyond the 60 days trial period the vCenter Server must be licensed as well the required number of physical CPUs. The named vSphere Essentials license does not cover vMotion and HA, not to speak about Storage vMotion. Neccessary to choose at least vSphere Essentials Plus. /offtopic To put this back in the context of comparison to other free virtual host servers, you can run the console client (windows app) to connect to as many ESXi servers as you want, but on a one to one basis. That is, open a new instance of the client for each connection, and within those you can open consoles to as many VM guests as you want (although once the network is up I usually prefer to use vnc or NX/freenx directly to the guest). The licensed vCenter stuff refers to a single app that is simultaneously aware of all of your ESXi servers and their guests and can move/fail resources across servers - concepts that I don't think the other hypervisors even have. I don't think there is an overall restriction on how many of the free ESXi servers you install - you just have to treat them as standalone instances. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
Greetings, On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/23/2010 10:02 AM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: The licensed vCenter stuff refers to a single app that is simultaneously aware of all of your ESXi servers and their guests and can move/fail resources across servers - concepts that I don't think the other hypervisors even have. Duh.. What is RHEV then? I am in front of the box now. Can you tell me which feature is missing? if any, perhaps we can raise a point with redhat. Regards, Rajagopal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
I can confirm the socket/cpu limitation is at least 8, at least on ESXi 3.x. I have an 8 core IBM x445 running on a free license. :-) -- Drew On 12/19/2010, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 12/19/10 8:40 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: But the ESXi version isn't exactly fair to someone who would deploy on the hardware intended. Also, the restriction to 1 CPU isn't built-in - there's a place where you select the number of CPUs you will use when you are registering for the free license. I don't know what the actual maximum is, but it is at least 2 with a fairly large number of cores. I'm running the free ESXI on a 4-socket (single core opteron) server, no problems with the licensing, and I don't recall it asking how many cores per socket, just how many sockets. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Sent from my mobile device Drew Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. --Marie Curie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Drew drew@gmail.com wrote: On 12/19/2010, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 12/19/10 8:40 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: But the ESXi version isn't exactly fair to someone who would deploy on the hardware intended. Also, the restriction to 1 CPU isn't built-in - there's a place where you select the number of CPUs you will use when you are registering for the free license. I don't know what the actual maximum is, but it is at least 2 with a fairly large number of cores. I'm running the free ESXI on a 4-socket (single core opteron) server, no problems with the licensing, and I don't recall it asking how many cores per socket, just how many sockets. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I can confirm the socket/cpu limitation is at least 8, at least on ESXi 3.x. I have an 8 core IBM x445 running on a free license. :-) The free and essentials licensing is restricted to max 2 sockets, max 6 cores a socket. -Ross ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:12:09PM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: There is XenServer from Citrix and I think there is a community version too. -Ross I'd welcome your opinion. I did a bunch of integration with CentOS/RHEL 4 with the older, open source Xen utilities. This is slightly out of date now, but I evalauted a few virtualization systems, including XenServer: http://sweh.spuddy.org/Essays/Virtualization_options.html -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Stephen Harris li...@spuddy.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:12:09PM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: There is XenServer from Citrix and I think there is a community version too. -Ross I'd welcome your opinion. I did a bunch of integration with CentOS/RHEL 4 with the older, open source Xen utilities. This is slightly out of date now, but I evalauted a few virtualization systems, including XenServer: http://sweh.spuddy.org/Essays/Virtualization_options.html Now, *that* is what reviews should be like. Clear side by side comparisons on the performance, features, and missing bits you need to do yourself, very useful. It is a bit out of date: I hope you get a chance to try the same tests with CentOS 6. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On 12/19/10 9:33 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Stephen Harrisli...@spuddy.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:12:09PM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Ross Walkerrswwal...@gmail.com wrote: There is XenServer from Citrix and I think there is a community version too. -Ross I'd welcome your opinion. I did a bunch of integration with CentOS/RHEL 4 with the older, open source Xen utilities. This is slightly out of date now, but I evalauted a few virtualization systems, including XenServer: http://sweh.spuddy.org/Essays/Virtualization_options.html Now, *that* is what reviews should be like. Clear side by side comparisons on the performance, features, and missing bits you need to do yourself, very useful. It is a bit out of date: I hope you get a chance to try the same tests with CentOS 6. But the ESXi version isn't exactly fair to someone who would deploy on the hardware intended. Also, the restriction to 1 CPU isn't built-in - there's a place where you select the number of CPUs you will use when you are registering for the free license. I don't know what the actual maximum is, but it is at least 2 with a fairly large number of cores. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On 12/19/10 8:40 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: But the ESXi version isn't exactly fair to someone who would deploy on the hardware intended. Also, the restriction to 1 CPU isn't built-in - there's a place where you select the number of CPUs you will use when you are registering for the free license. I don't know what the actual maximum is, but it is at least 2 with a fairly large number of cores. I'm running the free ESXI on a 4-socket (single core opteron) server, no problems with the licensing, and I don't recall it asking how many cores per socket, just how many sockets. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
The problem with VMWare Server is that it is a discontinued product for longer time and they don't provide us with a suitable replacement. So our institute had to switch to VMWare workstation that can be run as a server, too. I'm running CentOS 5.5 as the Host OS and 5.5 and RHEL6beta as guests. We didn't try out RHEL6 (waiting for CentOS6 :-) GS -- Gerhard Schneider Institute of Lightweight Design and e-Mail: g...@ilsb.tuwien.ac.at Structural Biomechanics (E317) Tel.: +43 664 60 588 3171 Vienna University of Technology / Austria Fax:+43 1 58801 31799 A-1040 Wien, Gusshausstrasse 27-29 http://www.ilsb.tuwien.ac.at/~gs/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Saturday, December 18, 2010 04:19:25 am Gerhard Schneider wrote: The problem with VMWare Server is that it is a discontinued product for longer time and they don't provide us with a suitable replacement. VMware wants more people to get hooked on vSphere, so their 'suggested' VMware GSX^H^H^HServer replacement is vSphere Hypervisor, aka ESXi Free Edition. If you have suitable hardware you will get better performance with ESXi, but to get any of the more advanced functionality will require $$$ and vCenter Server. I have been looking at transitioning from VI3 (vCenter Server 2.5 and ESX 3.5) to something else; the price of vSphere 4 is simply too large to justify, and, while I have a valid license for vCenter Server Standard 4, I don't for ESX4 (it is a long story, and involves some rather precise timing of a difference in purchase and support dates for our original VI3 purchase, done in two phases). If I had a valid license for the full vSphere 4, I'm still not sure I'd run it, as the vCenter Server hardware requirements are steep. So I'm very seriously considering transitioning from VI3 to CentOS 6 KVM; for my situation it might be doable, but I have a lot to learn about KVM before I can think about it. Well, and CentOS 6 has to be out, too. I use many of the more advanced VI3 features, including vMotion, that means I really have to be careful. I'd want to cluster the hosts and have shared storage on my three onsite EMC Clariions. I'd like to 'RAID' the shared storage between two Clariions, actually, which ESX won't do, AFAIK. So a learning curve is up ahead Q1 or Q2 2011. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On 12/18/10 3:19 AM, Gerhard Schneider wrote: The problem with VMWare Server is that it is a discontinued product for longer time and they don't provide us with a suitable replacement. Do you need something that the 1.x series won't do? If something works and serves your purpose it doesn't matter if it is discontinued or not. So our institute had to switch to VMWare workstation that can be run as a server, too. I'm running CentOS 5.5 as the Host OS and 5.5 and RHEL6beta as guests. We didn't try out RHEL6 (waiting for CentOS6 :-) The other option is to run ESXi and move anything you were running on the host to a guest. You'll get better performance that way but you need to run the converter tool on some other machine to get the images copied in. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
Greetings, On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On Saturday, December 18, 2010 04:19:25 am Gerhard Schneider wrote: So I'm very seriously considering transitioning from VI3 to CentOS 6 KVM; for my situation it might be doable, but I have a lot to learn about KVM before I can think about it. Have a serious very look at RHEV. Mindblowing. But watch out: RHEL full-install that I did not contain bridge utils (brctl) which is the virtual and real nerve controller -- heart and neocortex former of any virtualization. I would also suggest very strongly that one should do HA first, get it right and then play around with virtualization. else a lot of frustration will result. In the same breath I would warmly warn against playing around the idea of real world *any* Virtualization on a single box. Inviting lotsa bother. Centos 5 has all of it and more just be very careful about not munging the kvm packages. exclude xen altogether if you want kvm. Its not funny to watch troubleshoot xen and kvm fighting for control over the real resources. both have, well, attitudes. I must thank the CentOS team from the bottom of my heart for their tremendous and humongous efforts under extreme heat and light of the community :). Regards, Rajagopal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
Have you considered looking into redhat enterprise virtualization? If you are interested I can put you in touch with a redhat rhev representative? Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On Saturday, December 18, 2010 04:19:25 am Gerhard Schneider wrote: The problem with VMWare Server is that it is a discontinued product for longer time and they don't provide us with a suitable replacement. VMware wants more people to get hooked on vSphere, so their 'suggested' VMware GSX^H^H^HServer replacement is vSphere Hypervisor, aka ESXi Free Edition. If you have suitable hardware you will get better performance with ESXi, but to get any of the more advanced functionality will require $$$ and vCenter Server. I have been looking at transitioning from VI3 (vCenter Server 2.5 and ESX 3.5) to something else; the price of vSphere 4 is simply too large to justify, and, while I have a valid license for vCenter Server Standard 4, I don't for ESX4 (it is a long story, and involves some rather precise timing of a difference in purchase and support dates for our original VI3 purchase, done in two phases). If I had a valid license for the full vSphere 4, I'm still not sure I'd run it, as the vCenter Server hardware requirements are steep. So I'm very seriously considering transitioning from VI3 to CentOS 6 KVM; for my situation it might be doable, but I have a lot to learn about KVM before I can think about it. Well, and CentOS 6 has to be out, too. I use many of the more advanced VI3 features, including vMotion, that means I really have to be careful. I'd want to cluster the hosts and have shared storage on my three onsite EMC Clariions. I'd like to 'RAID' the shared storage between two Clariions, actually, which ESX won't do, AFAIK. So a learning curve is up ahead Q1 or Q2 2011. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Saturday, December 18, 2010 02:56:12 pm Peter Larsen wrote: Have you considered looking into redhat enterprise virtualization? If you are interested I can put you in touch with a redhat rhev representative? Yes, I have. It's not in the budget right now using the current Red Hat pricing model, and my budget is tight. VI3 was purchased with the server hardware under a one-time infrastructure grant that included the initial maintenance support agreement and one renewal. If I had a grant to support it, I would likely purchase RHEV; I don't, therefore I can't. So I'm going to roll my own. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Dec 18, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On Saturday, December 18, 2010 04:19:25 am Gerhard Schneider wrote: The problem with VMWare Server is that it is a discontinued product for longer time and they don't provide us with a suitable replacement. VMware wants more people to get hooked on vSphere, so their 'suggested' VMware GSX^H^H^HServer replacement is vSphere Hypervisor, aka ESXi Free Edition. If you have suitable hardware you will get better performance with ESXi, but to get any of the more advanced functionality will require $$$ and vCenter Server. I have been looking at transitioning from VI3 (vCenter Server 2.5 and ESX 3.5) to something else; the price of vSphere 4 is simply too large to justify, and, while I have a valid license for vCenter Server Standard 4, I don't for ESX4 (it is a long story, and involves some rather precise timing of a difference in purchase and support dates for our original VI3 purchase, done in two phases). If I had a valid license for the full vSphere 4, I'm still not sure I'd run it, as the vCenter Server hardware requirements are steep. So I'm very seriously considering transitioning from VI3 to CentOS 6 KVM; for my situation it might be doable, but I have a lot to learn about KVM before I can think about it. Well, and CentOS 6 has to be out, too. I use many of the more advanced VI3 features, including vMotion, that means I really have to be careful. I'd want to cluster the hosts and have shared storage on my three onsite EMC Clariions. I'd like to 'RAID' the shared storage between two Clariions, actually, which ESX won't do, AFAIK. So a learning curve is up ahead Q1 or Q2 2011. There is XenServer from Citrix and I think there is a community version too. -Ross ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Peter Larsen plar...@famlarsen.homelinux.com wrote: Have you considered looking into redhat enterprise virtualization? If you are interested I can put you in touch with a redhat rhev representative? I've looked at it, though not extensively. Given the difficulties I encountered with KVM, its demands on bridged network ports that force pair bonding upstream into the virtualization guest, the QEMU backend with a new name that is libvirt, and its dog slow performance under RHEL 5 and CentOS 5, I threw it out ASAP and stuck with Virtualbox for home systems (for the graceful interfaces no matter the hosting platform)) and VMWare Workstation (to deal with SCO OpenServer: don't ask). Hopefully RHEL 6/CentOS 6 will resolve the difficulties. The burden of NetworkManager as a management tool for virtualization server and guest configurations concerns me: it's oversized for the small needs of virtualization guests, and has never worked well in production environments in my experience. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: There is XenServer from Citrix and I think there is a community version too. -Ross I'd welcome your opinion. I did a bunch of integration with CentOS/RHEL 4 with the older, open source Xen utilities. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Friday, December 17, 2010 08:44:46 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote: Hallo, actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E - Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD - Not recognized by 5.2 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2 It's not recommended to run CentOS-5.2 (many serious security vulnerabilities). /Peter Update kernel? Update Modules? What Module? Thanks for help Helmut signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Friday, December 17, 2010 02:44:46 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote: Hallo, actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E - Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD - Not recognized by 5.2 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2 Why? Are you wanting it as a VMware host or guest? As the kernels are basically identical in terms of the version string, the VMware kernel modules, for VMware Server or Workstation as a host, and VMware tools as a guest, should load without a recompile. I'm running a number of CentOS 5.5 guests on VMware ESX 3.5U5 with no issue. Which VMware is this, type and version, please? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
- I'm using 5.2 or 5.3 as a host. - my expierince: 5.4 is not stable with vmware as a host. The hosts are completely behind firewall. Vmware server 2.0.2-203138 With 5.3 my problem was solved. Helmut -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] Im Auftrag von Lamar Owen Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Dezember 2010 15:31 An: CentOS mailing list Betreff: Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC On Friday, December 17, 2010 02:44:46 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote: Hallo, actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E - Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD - Not recognized by 5.2 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2 Why? Are you wanting it as a VMware host or guest? As the kernels are basically identical in terms of the version string, the VMware kernel modules, for VMware Server or Workstation as a host, and VMware tools as a guest, should load without a recompile. I'm running a number of CentOS 5.5 guests on VMware ESX 3.5U5 with no issue. Which VMware is this, type and version, please? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Friday, December 17, 2010 11:21:29 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote: Vmware server 2.0.2-203138 And that would be the most recent build. With 5.3 my problem was solved. Have you tried 5.5 yet? For grins and giggles I'm going to play with it on a box I have, but it will be a little while before I have anything definitive. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On 12/17/10 10:21 AM, Helmut Drodofsky wrote: - I'm using 5.2 or 5.3 as a host. - my expierince: 5.4 is not stable with vmware as a host. The hosts are completely behind firewall. Vmware server 2.0.2-203138 With 5.3 my problem was solved. The 2.x series of vmware server are badly broken with respect to RHEL/Centos - plus the change to the web based console is horrible. I'm running the older 1.x server on several centos 5.5 machines with no problems. But, if it is at all feasible you are better off running the free Vmware ESXi on the host instead of the server version. You do need a windows box to run the remote console, though. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:11 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/17/10 10:21 AM, Helmut Drodofsky wrote: The 2.x series of vmware server are badly broken with respect to RHEL/Centos - plus the change to the web based console is horrible. Mine is not broken. The web Admin works like it should. the server version. You do need a windows box to run the remote console, though. No you do not that is not so. The Console can be executed with out ever going to the web admin. As in the plugin can be executed with out firefox. John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On 12/17/10 12:36 PM, JohnS wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:11 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/17/10 10:21 AM, Helmut Drodofsky wrote: The 2.x series of vmware server are badly broken with respect to RHEL/Centos - plus the change to the web based console is horrible. Mine is not broken. The web Admin works like it should. Just to be clear - do you mean you are running vmware 2.x server under post 5.2 Centos without the library issues that everyone else had? The change to the web admin is a separate issue and not technically broken - I just don't like it. the server version. You do need a windows box to run the remote console, though. No you do not that is not so. The Console can be executed with out ever going to the web admin. As in the plugin can be executed with out firefox. And this was in the context of ESXi. Are you saying you can get a console to the ESXi server on something other than windows? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:23 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/17/10 12:36 PM, JohnS wrote: Mine is not broken. The web Admin works like it should. Just to be clear - do you mean you are running vmware 2.x server under post 5.2 Centos without the library issues that everyone else had? The change to the web admin is a separate issue and not technically broken - I just don't like it. the server version. You do need a windows box to run the remote console, though. No you do not that is not so. The Console can be executed with out ever going to the web admin. As in the plugin can be executed with out firefox. And this was in the context of ESXi. Are you saying you can get a console to the ESXi server on something other than windows? Less, Your inbox will give you the answer... John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Intel NIC
Hallo, actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E - Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD - Not recognized by 5.2 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2 Update kernel? Update Modules? What Module? Thanks for help Helmut ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:44:46 +0100 Helmut Drodofsky drodof...@internet-xs.de wrote: Hallo, Hi, actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E - Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD - Not recognized by 5.2 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2 Can't you use Xen or KVM ? That way, you,ll have an up to date OS. If not possible, updating kernel may be sufficient to make vmware work… or break. HTH, Laurent pgp2XY96qKT4b.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] intel nic vanished with 5.3
Hi I have boxes with a quad card that shows up with e1000 e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection However since rebuilding a box from 4.7 to 5.3 this card has vanished - I would have thought this card is pretty generic so i dont believe there are not drivers for it - Any other thoughts? It does not show up at all in messages etc, and ethtool knows nothing of it either. thanks ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] intel nic vanished with 5.3
Tom Brown wrote: Hi I have boxes with a quad card that shows up with e1000 e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection However since rebuilding a box from 4.7 to 5.3 this card has vanished - I would have thought this card is pretty generic so i dont believe there are not drivers for it - Any other thoughts? It does not show up at all in messages etc, and ethtool knows nothing of it either. try modprobe e1000 and see if it comes back? (there's also the e1000e driver as well I think that is for the latest cards mostly PCIe) Check lspci to verify it's still there? nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] intel nic vanished with 5.3
try modprobe e1000 and see if it comes back? (there's also the e1000e driver as well I think that is for the latest cards mostly PCIe) Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version 7.3.20-k2-NAPI Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation. Check lspci to verify it's still there? # lspci 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 PCI (rev 07) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 LPC (rev 05) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 IDE (rev 03) 00:07.3 Bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 ACPI (rev 05) 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge (rev 12) 00:0a.1 PIC: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X IOAPIC (rev 01) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge (rev 12) 00:0b.1 PIC: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X IOAPIC (rev 01) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 00:19.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:19.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:19.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:19.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:00.0 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 USB (rev 0b) 01:00.1 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8111 USB (rev 0b) 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Blade 3D PCI/AGP (rev 3a) 02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03) 02:02.1 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03) 02:04.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI (rev 08) so the OS cant see the card at all ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] intel nic vanished with 5.3
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:11:13 +0100 Tom Brown wrote: so the OS cant see the card at all Are you sure it's still there?Try re-seating it, or move it to a different slot and see if anything changes. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] intel nic vanished with 5.3
Tom Brown wrote: so the OS cant see the card at all Maybe an IRQ conflict or something? I don't recall ever seeing a situation where lspci wouldn't show a device that was actually present and working. Try a different PCI slot? nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] intel nic vanished with 5.3
Maybe an IRQ conflict or something? I don't recall ever seeing a situation where lspci wouldn't show a device that was actually present and working. Try a different PCI slot? yes its rather odd - i will ask the DC guys to check but i am working on second hand info regarding this card being present so i'll just have to see what they say. i have never seen something like this either. thanks ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
