Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread m . roth
Mark Haney wrote:
 I installed CentOS 7 late last year to use as my Nagios/Cacti Monitoring
 server.  Clean install, nothing real complicated just the server version
 with no GUI, just command line/SSH.

 I have noticed over the last 3 months that I've not had ANY updates when I
 run 'yum update'.  I have run 'yum clean all' to see if that might be a
 problem, and I've made sure the updates repo is enabled (it is), but I'm
 getting no CentOS updates.

 Did something change that I'm not aware of?  I'm even clueless how to
 being debugging this.  I'm no noob to RPM based systems as I run Fedora
pretty
 much everywhere else.

 Ideas?

There's been a bunch. Two ideas: first, are the repos enabled (check in
/etc/yum.repos.d, and make sure enabled=1, and second, do you have any
excludes (and wildcards count) in /etc/yum.conf?

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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Mark Haney
I have no excludes in yum.conf.  But I noticed something odd in the
CentOS-Base.repo file.  The [updates] section didn't have an explicit
'enabled=1' in it.  Though, when I added it in, it made no difference.  I
have noticed that I do have some updated packages (like httpd) that are
from February and appear to be the most recent based on the mirrors, but
every mirror I hit I see no updated packages listed for this month.  Maybe
there's just not been any and I'm overreacting.

But to give an example, we run several Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  virtual machines
and I've have a dozen or so security related updates that I've not seen for
CentOS, like openssl (which I do have installed on it) and gnutls.  I know
package names don't always match up, but these are recent known
vulnerabilities and I don't like the feeling I'm not securing my systems
properly.

Does that makes sense?


On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:58 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Mark Haney wrote:
  I installed CentOS 7 late last year to use as my Nagios/Cacti Monitoring
  server.  Clean install, nothing real complicated just the server version
  with no GUI, just command line/SSH.
 
  I have noticed over the last 3 months that I've not had ANY updates when
 I
  run 'yum update'.  I have run 'yum clean all' to see if that might be a
  problem, and I've made sure the updates repo is enabled (it is), but I'm
  getting no CentOS updates.
 
  Did something change that I'm not aware of?  I'm even clueless how to
  being debugging this.  I'm no noob to RPM based systems as I run Fedora
 pretty
  much everywhere else.
 
  Ideas?

 There's been a bunch. Two ideas: first, are the repos enabled (check in
 /etc/yum.repos.d, and make sure enabled=1, and second, do you have any
 excludes (and wildcards count) in /etc/yum.conf?

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread John R Pierce

On 3/27/2015 12:30 PM, Mark Haney wrote:

I have no excludes in yum.conf.  But I noticed something odd in the
CentOS-Base.repo file.  The [updates] section didn't have an explicit
'enabled=1' in it.  Though, when I added it in, it made no difference.  I
have noticed that I do have some updated packages (like httpd) that are
from February and appear to be the most recent based on the mirrors, but
every mirror I hit I see no updated packages listed for this month.  Maybe
there's just not been any and I'm overreacting.


indeed, odd.  I just looked at my local mirror of a mirror, and I'm not 
seeing anything in /7/ newer than Jan 20




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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 27/03/2015 20:30, Mark Haney a écrit :

But to give an example, we run several Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  virtual machines
and I've have a dozen or so security related updates that I've not seen for
CentOS, like openssl (which I do have installed on it) and gnutls.  I know
package names don't always match up, but these are recent known
vulnerabilities and I don't like the feeling I'm not securing my systems
properly.


I've just setup a few CentOS 7 machines, using the minimal CD. After the 
initial reboot, I have 78 MB worth of updates. Everything looks quite 
normal.


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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Mark Haney
Yeah, I just don't get it.  I've looked at several mirrors and haven't
found /any/ updates dated this month.  That's really odd, I would think.
I'm not talking installed updates on my system, ANY updated packages on the
mirrors from 3/2015.  Has anyone else updated packages this month?

Also, as an aside, what's the difference between CentOS 7 and CentOS
7.1406?  And does that make a difference?  I know I don't have a ton of
actual packages on this machine, it doesn't really need any more than what
I have on it, which is pretty minimal, but I'm worried I'm missing security
updates for some reason, and I don't want to have this system vulnerable
even if it isn't accessible from outside my office.



On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Mark Haney mark.ha...@vifprogram.com
 wrote:
  I installed CentOS 7 late last year to use as my Nagios/Cacti Monitoring
  server.  Clean install, nothing real complicated just the server version
  with no GUI, just command line/SSH.
 
  I have noticed over the last 3 months that I've not had ANY updates when
 I
  run 'yum update'.  I have run 'yum clean all' to see if that might be a
  problem, and I've made sure the updates repo is enabled (it is), but I'm
  getting no CentOS updates.
 
  Did something change that I'm not aware of?  I'm even clueless how to
 being
  debugging this.  I'm no noob to RPM based systems as I run Fedora pretty
  much everywhere else.
 
  Ideas?

 Try something like yum info kernel.
 It should show the repos it is checking, the installed version and the
 repo it is from, plus available newer versions.  If your installed
 version isn't from anaconda, maybe you have automatic updates enabled
 and there is nothing newer when you check.

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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Mark Haney mark.ha...@vifprogram.com wrote:
 I have no excludes in yum.conf.  But I noticed something odd in the
 CentOS-Base.repo file.  The [updates] section didn't have an explicit
 'enabled=1' in it.  Though, when I added it in, it made no difference.  I
 have noticed that I do have some updated packages (like httpd) that are
 from February and appear to be the most recent based on the mirrors, but
 every mirror I hit I see no updated packages listed for this month.  Maybe
 there's just not been any and I'm overreacting.

I think all of the current work is being held in the cr repo while
they are scrambling to get a full 7.1 release completed.

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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Sebastian Schubert

Am 27.03.15 um 20:30 schrieb Mark Haney:



But to give an example, we run several Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  virtual machines
and I've have a dozen or so security related updates that I've not seen for
CentOS, like openssl (which I do have installed on it) and gnutls.  I know
package names don't always match up, but these are recent known
vulnerabilities and I don't like the feeling I'm not securing my systems
properly.

Does that makes sense?


yes it does - take a look at the centos announce mailinglist and see 
that the last update for centos 7 was pushed out on feb 25

you might want to have a look at the archives...
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/
or the announcement regarding the CR repo:
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2015-March/020980.html



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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread John R Pierce

On 3/27/2015 12:36 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 3/27/2015 12:30 PM, Mark Haney wrote:

I have no excludes in yum.conf.  But I noticed something odd in the
CentOS-Base.repo file.  The [updates] section didn't have an explicit
'enabled=1' in it.  Though, when I added it in, it made no 
difference.  I

have noticed that I do have some updated packages (like httpd) that are
from February and appear to be the most recent based on the mirrors, but
every mirror I hit I see no updated packages listed for this month.  
Maybe

there's just not been any and I'm overreacting.


indeed, odd.  I just looked at my local mirror of a mirror, and I'm 
not seeing anything in /7/ newer than Jan 20 


oh.  is /7/  supposed to be a symlink to /7.0.1406/   or a separate 
directory ?  it appears my mirroring of the mirror may be broken if its 
supposed to be a symlink.


in /7.0.1406/, I'm seeing files up to Feb 22.

fyi, I'm using...

$ more ~/lftp.sh
#!/bin/sh
echo =  
$HOME/lftp.log

date -R  $HOME/lftp.log
/usr/local/bin/lftp -c 'open ftp://mirrors.sonic.net  lcd 
/mnt/zbig/mirror  mirror --continue --verbose=1 -x ia64 -x s390 -x 
s390x -x alpha -x SRPMS centos'  $HOME/lftp.log


on a freebsd (freenas) box to do the mirror.
$ lftp --version
LFTP | Version 4.6.1 | Copyright (c) 1996-2014 Alexander V. Lukyanov



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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:46:20PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 3/27/2015 12:36 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 3/27/2015 12:30 PM, Mark Haney wrote:
 I have no excludes in yum.conf.  But I noticed something odd in the
 CentOS-Base.repo file.  The [updates] section didn't have an explicit
 'enabled=1' in it.  Though, when I added it in, it made no
 difference.  I
 have noticed that I do have some updated packages (like httpd) that are
 from February and appear to be the most recent based on the mirrors, but
 every mirror I hit I see no updated packages listed for this
 month.  Maybe
 there's just not been any and I'm overreacting.
 
 indeed, odd.  I just looked at my local mirror of a mirror, and
 I'm not seeing anything in /7/ newer than Jan 20
 
 oh.  is /7/  supposed to be a symlink to /7.0.1406/   or a separate
 directory ?  it appears my mirroring of the mirror may be broken if
 its supposed to be a symlink.
 
 in /7.0.1406/, I'm seeing files up to Feb 22.

/7/ is a link to the latest release, which at this point in timeis 7.0.1406.
Once 7.1 is released, the 7 symlink will point to it.

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[CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Mark Haney
I installed CentOS 7 late last year to use as my Nagios/Cacti Monitoring
server.  Clean install, nothing real complicated just the server version
with no GUI, just command line/SSH.

I have noticed over the last 3 months that I've not had ANY updates when I
run 'yum update'.  I have run 'yum clean all' to see if that might be a
problem, and I've made sure the updates repo is enabled (it is), but I'm
getting no CentOS updates.

Did something change that I'm not aware of?  I'm even clueless how to being
debugging this.  I'm no noob to RPM based systems as I run Fedora pretty
much everywhere else.

Ideas?


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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Mark Haney mark.ha...@vifprogram.com wrote:
 I installed CentOS 7 late last year to use as my Nagios/Cacti Monitoring
 server.  Clean install, nothing real complicated just the server version
 with no GUI, just command line/SSH.

 I have noticed over the last 3 months that I've not had ANY updates when I
 run 'yum update'.  I have run 'yum clean all' to see if that might be a
 problem, and I've made sure the updates repo is enabled (it is), but I'm
 getting no CentOS updates.

 Did something change that I'm not aware of?  I'm even clueless how to being
 debugging this.  I'm no noob to RPM based systems as I run Fedora pretty
 much everywhere else.

 Ideas?

Try something like yum info kernel.
It should show the repos it is checking, the installed version and the
repo it is from, plus available newer versions.  If your installed
version isn't from anaconda, maybe you have automatic updates enabled
and there is nothing newer when you check.

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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread John R Pierce

On 3/27/2015 1:56 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

It is indeed a symlink ... and it will indeed be shifted.

People also really should use rsync with the -H option for hardlinks as
that will save much space between releases as well.  (Almost all the
items in the 'cr' repo, 'os' repo, and 'fasttrack' repo from the
7.0.1406 tree will make up the new os repo in the newer 7.1.1503 tree.)

If you are not using -H, you have to download each RPM more than once.


rsync from $job is incredibly slow and unreliable and frequently errored 
out partway through the process.  I switched to lftp some time ago but 
just realized that it wasn't handling symlinks properly (although all 
indications are that it should be).   A possible complication may be 
that I just moved my local mirror from a old Solaris 10 system to a new 
FreeNAS (FreeBSD) system, and am using the lftp from freeBSD 9.3 
'ports', whihc is lftp version 4.6.1.  The old solaris system had LFTP 
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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread John R Pierce

On 3/27/2015 1:27 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

oh.  is /7/  supposed to be a symlink to /7.0.1406/   or a separate
directory ?  it appears my mirroring of the mirror may be broken if
its supposed to be a symlink.

in /7.0.1406/, I'm seeing files up to Feb 22.

/7/ is a link to the latest release, which at this point in timeis 7.0.1406.
Once 7.1 is released, the 7 symlink will point to it.


ah, then my mirroring is broken.

I'm using...

/usr/local/bin/lftp -c 'open ftp://mirrors.sonic.net  lcd 
/mnt/zbig/mirror  mirror --continue --verbose=1 -x ia64 -x s390 -x 
s390x -x alpha -x SRPMS centos'


(mirrors.sonic.net is relatively close to $job's main internet gateway).



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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/27/2015 03:27 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:46:20PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 3/27/2015 12:36 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 3/27/2015 12:30 PM, Mark Haney wrote:
 I have no excludes in yum.conf.  But I noticed something odd in the
 CentOS-Base.repo file.  The [updates] section didn't have an explicit
 'enabled=1' in it.  Though, when I added it in, it made no
 difference.  I
 have noticed that I do have some updated packages (like httpd) that are
 from February and appear to be the most recent based on the mirrors, but
 every mirror I hit I see no updated packages listed for this
 month.  Maybe
 there's just not been any and I'm overreacting.

 indeed, odd.  I just looked at my local mirror of a mirror, and
 I'm not seeing anything in /7/ newer than Jan 20

 oh.  is /7/  supposed to be a symlink to /7.0.1406/   or a separate
 directory ?  it appears my mirroring of the mirror may be broken if
 its supposed to be a symlink.

 in /7.0.1406/, I'm seeing files up to Feb 22.
 
 /7/ is a link to the latest release, which at this point in timeis 7.0.1406.
 Once 7.1 is released, the 7 symlink will point to it.
 

It is indeed a symlink ... and it will indeed be shifted.

People also really should use rsync with the -H option for hardlinks as
that will save much space between releases as well.  (Almost all the
items in the 'cr' repo, 'os' repo, and 'fasttrack' repo from the
7.0.1406 tree will make up the new os repo in the newer 7.1.1503 tree.)

If you are not using -H, you have to download each RPM more than once.



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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread John R Pierce



ah, then my mirroring is broken.

I'm using...

/usr/local/bin/lftp -c 'open ftp://mirrors.sonic.net  lcd 
/mnt/zbig/mirror  mirror --continue --verbose=1 -x ia64 -x s390 -x 
s390x -x alpha -x SRPMS centos'


(mirrors.sonic.net is relatively close to $job's main internet gateway).


ok, I deleted all the folders that were supposed to be symlinks on my 
mirror, and restarted the lftp job and NOW its creating symlinks.


maybe I screwed up when I rsync'd my old solaris-based mirror to my new 
freenas/freebsd based mirror.




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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread m . roth
Johnny Hughes wrote:
 On 03/27/2015 03:27 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:46:20PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 3/27/2015 12:36 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 3/27/2015 12:30 PM, Mark Haney wrote:
snip
 oh.  is /7/  supposed to be a symlink to /7.0.1406/   or a separate
 directory ?  it appears my mirroring of the mirror may be broken if
 its supposed to be a symlink.

 in /7.0.1406/, I'm seeing files up to Feb 22.

 /7/ is a link to the latest release, which at this point in timeis
 7.0.1406.Once 7.1 is released, the 7 symlink will point to it.

 It is indeed a symlink ... and it will indeed be shifted.

 People also really should use rsync with the -H option for hardlinks as
 that will save much space between releases as well.  (Almost all the
 items in the 'cr' repo, 'os' repo, and 'fasttrack' repo from the
 7.0.1406 tree will make up the new os repo in the newer 7.1.1503 tree.)

 If you are not using -H, you have to download each RPM more than once.

Absolutely, what Johnny said. We *always* use hard links for our backups,
which is the only way we could (most of the time) keep 5 weeks of b/u of
our home and project directories.

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] Not getting updates?

2015-03-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 3:43 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 On 3/27/2015 1:27 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

 oh.  is /7/  supposed to be a symlink to /7.0.1406/   or a separate
 directory ?  it appears my mirroring of the mirror may be broken if
 its supposed to be a symlink.
 
 in /7.0.1406/, I'm seeing files up to Feb 22.

 /7/ is a link to the latest release, which at this point in timeis
 7.0.1406.
 Once 7.1 is released, the 7 symlink will point to it.


 ah, then my mirroring is broken.

I thought Centos repos always worked that way - mostly so the mirrors
only had to hold the updates for the latest release, whatever that
might be.

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