Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
From: Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com Just think how much money you could earn at Y3K!!! DUCKS ;) I wonder what are the plans for Y2038... Most of us will have retired by then I guess. JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
On 04/30/12 19:40, Scott Silva wrote: on 4/27/2012 8:04 AM m.r...@5-cent.us spake the following: Chris Geldenhuis wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success with installing and using Open Cobol on RH or CentOS? Any pointers would be very welcome. I have Googled and am working with Vince on the Open Cobol mailing list to try to resolve installation problems. *sigh* pulls brown paper bag over head ObAdmission: I wrote *way* too much COBOL a long time ago, in a galaxy far away It really is past time to migrate to another language, y'know. You could probably move it to something like perl fairly easily, or even *bleah* java. Just think how much money you could earn at Y3K!!!DUCKS ;) http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/538-y2k-and-y10k.html mark, not getting frozen -- Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
On Mon, April 30, 2012 19:40, Scott Silva wrote: on 4/27/2012 8:04 AM m.r...@5-cent.us spake the It really is past time to migrate to another language, y'know. You could probably move it to something like perl fairly easily, or even *bleah* java. mark Just think how much money you could earn at Y3K!!! DUCKS ;) A former IBM programmer analyst who had invested heavily in the dot com bubble and who had realized his millions before the collapse fell deathly ill. Faced with the inevitability of his imminent death he decided to chance the untried technology of cryonics to evade death until a cure be found. Having gambled once and won, given the circumstance, he felt no compunction about doing so again, albeit this time with his life and not his life savings. He awoke in a lighted chamber surrounded by people clothed in strange garb and accoutred even more strangely. Groggily he asked, What date is it? He felt, rather than heard, the reply, 9997 CE, or as you might know it, AD 9997. It took that long to find a cure? he asked. No came the reply. Then why have you awakened me now? he asked again. It says here that you know COBOL. came the reply. . . -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
on 4/27/2012 8:04 AM m.r...@5-cent.us spake the following: Chris Geldenhuis wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success with installing and using Open Cobol on RH or CentOS? Any pointers would be very welcome. I have Googled and am working with Vince on the Open Cobol mailing list to try to resolve installation problems. *sigh* pulls brown paper bag over head ObAdmission: I wrote *way* too much COBOL a long time ago, in a galaxy far away It really is past time to migrate to another language, y'know. You could probably move it to something like perl fairly easily, or even *bleah* java. mark Just think how much money you could earn at Y3K!!! DUCKS ;) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT Open Cobol
Hi, Has anyone on this list had any success with installing and using Open Cobol on RH or CentOS? Any pointers would be very welcome. I have Googled and am working with Vince on the Open Cobol mailing list to try to resolve installation problems. ChrisG ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
Chris Geldenhuis wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success with installing and using Open Cobol on RH or CentOS? Any pointers would be very welcome. I have Googled and am working with Vince on the Open Cobol mailing list to try to resolve installation problems. *sigh* pulls brown paper bag over head ObAdmission: I wrote *way* too much COBOL a long time ago, in a galaxy far away It really is past time to migrate to another language, y'know. You could probably move it to something like perl fairly easily, or even *bleah* java. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
Yes, lets move millions of lines of tested business code to Perl... and what testing? we don't need to test it. S On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:04, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Chris Geldenhuis wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success with installing and using Open Cobol on RH or CentOS? Any pointers would be very welcome. I have Googled and am working with Vince on the Open Cobol mailing list to try to resolve installation problems. *sigh* pulls brown paper bag over head ObAdmission: I wrote *way* too much COBOL a long time ago, in a galaxy far away It really is past time to migrate to another language, y'know. You could probably move it to something like perl fairly easily, or even *bleah* java. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -- Attending Collaborate12 Apr 22-26? Catch Pythian’s stellar roster of speakers presenting on a wide array of hot Oracle technology topics. More at pythian.com/news ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
Please don't top post. Singer X.J. Wang wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:04, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Chris Geldenhuis wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success with installing and using Open Cobol on RH or CentOS? Any pointers would be very welcome. I have Googled and am working with Vince on the Open Cobol mailing list to try to resolve installation problems. *sigh* pulls brown paper bag over head ObAdmission: I wrote *way* too much COBOL a long time ago, in a galaxy far away It really is past time to migrate to another language, y'know. You could probably move it to something like perl fairly easily, or even *bleah* java. Yes, lets move millions of lines of tested business code to Perl... and what testing? we don't need to test it. Why on *earth* would you think I would suggest not testing? Rather, if it were up to me, I'd run them in parallel for a year (so as to include year-end closing). Among the reasons I suggest it is to a) get rid of the tested spaghetti code (and yes, I've maintained crap like that, though not in a lot of years, thankfully); b) structure it using control structures that all modern language have (as opposed to, say, PERFORM 1500-DUMMY-PARAGRAPH THROUGH 1500-DUMMY-PARAGRAPH-EXIT VARYING I FROM 1 WHILE I 200, which yes, I left a lot of behind me, faking for/next loops that way), and, finally, c) it's getting harder and harder to find anyone who knows COBOL, since it's not a required course, and hasn't been for a lot of years mark mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
Hi Chris, In CentOS 6.2: yum install gmp gmp-devel libtool ncurses ncurses-devel ncurses-libs yum install libdbi libdbi-devel libtool-ltdl libtool-ltdl-devel db4 db4-devel (I think I had all but db4-devel pre-installed, not sure now) cd /opt wget http://www.sim-basis.de/open-cobol-1.1.tar.gz tar -xzvf open-cobol-1.1.tar.gz cd open-cobol-1.1 ./configure make make check make install I have not tested past this; if you send me a small program I could try to run it. regards, Jesus On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:26 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Please don't top post. Singer X.J. Wang wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:04, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Chris Geldenhuis wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success with installing and using Open Cobol on RH or CentOS? Any pointers would be very welcome. I have Googled and am working with Vince on the Open Cobol mailing list to try to resolve installation problems. *sigh* pulls brown paper bag over head ObAdmission: I wrote *way* too much COBOL a long time ago, in a galaxy far away It really is past time to migrate to another language, y'know. You could probably move it to something like perl fairly easily, or even *bleah* java. Yes, lets move millions of lines of tested business code to Perl... and what testing? we don't need to test it. Why on *earth* would you think I would suggest not testing? Rather, if it were up to me, I'd run them in parallel for a year (so as to include year-end closing). Among the reasons I suggest it is to a) get rid of the tested spaghetti code (and yes, I've maintained crap like that, though not in a lot of years, thankfully); b) structure it using control structures that all modern language have (as opposed to, say, PERFORM 1500-DUMMY-PARAGRAPH THROUGH 1500-DUMMY-PARAGRAPH-EXIT VARYING I FROM 1 WHILE I 200, which yes, I left a lot of behind me, faking for/next loops that way), and, finally, c) it's getting harder and harder to find anyone who knows COBOL, since it's not a required course, and hasn't been for a lot of years mark mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 16:53 +0200, Chris Geldenhuis wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success with installing and using Open Cobol on RH or CentOS? Any pointers would be very welcome. I played with it once years ago; it seemed to work Ok. Sadly, COBOL is not COBOL and ISAM is not ISAM, so code portability isn't likely and the Open COBOL application possibly won't be able to access the files from an RM or Acu COBOL application [some things never change]. So you'd at least have to export / import any data between COBOL compilers. At least COBOL had a relatively simple and reliable way to produce CRUD screens; which just about every other environment *still* lacks - at least the Open Source onces. Oh well. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
On 04/27/2012 06:09 PM, Jesus del Valle wrote: Hi Chris, In CentOS 6.2: yum install gmp gmp-devel libtool ncurses ncurses-devel ncurses-libs yum install libdbi libdbi-devel libtool-ltdl libtool-ltdl-devel db4 db4-devel (I think I had all but db4-devel pre-installed, not sure now) Hi Jesus, Thanks very much, I removed all of the stuff that I had manually downloaded and followed your instructions and the make check completed all tests without errors. ChrisG ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
-Original Message- From: Chris Geldenhuis Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 13:02 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol On 04/27/2012 06:09 PM, Jesus del Valle wrote: Hi Chris, In CentOS 6.2: yum install gmp gmp-devel libtool ncurses ncurses-devel ncurses-libs yum install libdbi libdbi-devel libtool-ltdl libtool-ltdl-devel db4 db4-devel (I think I had all but db4-devel pre-installed, not sure now) Hi Jesus, Thanks very much, I removed all of the stuff that I had manually downloaded and followed your instructions and the make check completed all tests without errors. Making rpm of it right now -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
--On Friday, April 27, 2012 12:54:33 PM -0400 Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote: At least COBOL had a relatively simple and reliable way to produce CRUD screens; which just about every other environment *still* lacks - at least the Open Source onces. Oh well. The Seam guys have put work into this area to make it a lot less painless to do basic CRUD. - Devin (who is still a fan of Spring) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
Just in case, it also compiles in CentOS 5.8; ncurses-libs is missing in yum there though. Maybe it is not needed at all. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Chris Geldenhuis Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 13:02 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol On 04/27/2012 06:09 PM, Jesus del Valle wrote: Hi Chris, In CentOS 6.2: yum install gmp gmp-devel libtool ncurses ncurses-devel ncurses-libs yum install libdbi libdbi-devel libtool-ltdl libtool-ltdl-devel db4 db4-devel (I think I had all but db4-devel pre-installed, not sure now) Hi Jesus, Thanks very much, I removed all of the stuff that I had manually downloaded and followed your instructions and the make check completed all tests without errors. Making rpm of it right now -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100 - - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333 Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol
-Original Message- From: Jesus del Valle Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 13:29 Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol Just in case, it also compiles in CentOS 5.8; ncurses-libs is missing in yum there though. Maybe it is not needed at all. Please do not top post. Thanks for checking. Links to the rpms are below. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: Chris Geldenhuis Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 13:02 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT Open Cobol On 04/27/2012 06:09 PM, Jesus del Valle wrote: Hi Chris, In CentOS 6.2: yum install gmp gmp-devel libtool ncurses ncurses-devel ncurses-libs yum install libdbi libdbi-devel libtool-ltdl libtool-ltdl-devel db4 db4-devel (I think I had all but db4-devel pre-installed, not sure now) Hi Jesus, Thanks very much, I removed all of the stuff that I had manually downloaded and followed your instructions and the make check completed all tests without errors. Making rpm of it right now http://client.pdinc.us/open-cobol-1.1-1.src.rpm http://client.pdinc.us/open-cobol-1.1-1.x86_64.rpm http://client.pdinc.us/open-cobol-1.1-1.i386.rpm -Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
