Re: [CentOS] Processes to disable

2009-04-13 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hello,

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:21, David Lemcoe fo...@lemcoe.com wrote:
 a bunch of processes that really aren't needed

Yes, many processes started in a default installation are not needed,
but they are not harmful at all, and in most cases they will not bring
you any problems.

On the other hand, if you start disabling processes, you might get
into trouble and not know exactly why. So, especially if you are *not*
a more experienced CentOS user, I would advise you against disabling
processes that you do not know if you need or not. As I said, if you
don't really need them, they will probably not be harmful to you.

 and just burn up processes.

This is a very silly argument, it's not like you have a low limit of
total number of processes in your system, and so far I have never seen
anyone reach that limit.

 Which ones should I get rid of for just a webserver? MySQL server?

If you do not plan to run MySQL server on a machine, then yes, you
should disable it, but in that case you should not even have installed
the RPM package to start with. In that case, the way I would advise
you to disable it is to uninstall the RPM.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 16:29, Bogdan Nicolescu bo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 to disable/enable a service:
 chkconfig --level levels service-name off/on
 i.e.
 chkconfig --level 3 sshd off
 Disables sshd for levels 3
 chkconfig --level 35 sshd on
 Enables sshd for level 3 and 5

Never use the --level argument unless you have very specific needs.

You should use:

chkconfig sshd off

And:

chkconfig sshd on

The service initialization files have a list of default runlevels,
which will probably make more sense than anything you specify.

 To see the names of all the services installed on your system:
 ls /etc/rc.d/init.d

Using 'chkconfig --list' makes more sense than listing the init.d directory.

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] Processes to disable

2009-04-13 Thread Bogdan Nicolescu





- Original Message 
 From: Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:02:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Processes to disable
 
 Hello,
 
 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:21, David Lemcoe wrote:
  a bunch of processes that really aren't needed
 
 Yes, many processes started in a default installation are not needed,
 but they are not harmful at all, and in most cases they will not bring
 you any problems.
 
 On the other hand, if you start disabling processes, you might get
 into trouble and not know exactly why. So, especially if you are *not*
 a more experienced CentOS user, I would advise you against disabling
 processes that you do not know if you need or not. As I said, if you
 don't really need them, they will probably not be harmful to you.
 
  and just burn up processes.
 
 This is a very silly argument, it's not like you have a low limit of
 total number of processes in your system, and so far I have never seen
 anyone reach that limit.
 
  Which ones should I get rid of for just a webserver? MySQL server?
 
 If you do not plan to run MySQL server on a machine, then yes, you
 should disable it, but in that case you should not even have installed
 the RPM package to start with. In that case, the way I would advise
 you to disable it is to uninstall the RPM.
 
 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 16:29, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote:
  to disable/enable a service:
  chkconfig --level service-name off/on
  i.e.
  chkconfig --level 3 sshd off
  Disables sshd for levels 3
  chkconfig --level 35 sshd on
  Enables sshd for level 3 and 5
 
 Never use the --level argument unless you have very specific needs.
 
 You should use:
 
 chkconfig sshd off
 
 And:
 
 chkconfig sshd on
 
 The service initialization files have a list of default runlevels,
 which will probably make more sense than anything you specify.


http://www.phpman.info/index.php/man/chkconfig/8

Maybe the chkconfig man pages can be revised to include Never use the --level 
argument unless you have very specific needs  because The service 
initialization files have a list of default runlevels, which will probably 
make more sense than anything you specify.

  To see the names of all the services installed on your system:
  ls /etc/rc.d/init.d
 
 Using 'chkconfig --list' makes more sense than listing the init.d directory.
 

chkconfig --list doesn't necessarily list all the services in /etc/rc.d/init.d

bn


 HTH,
 Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] Processes to disable

2009-04-13 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:03, Bogdan Nicolescu bo...@yahoo.com wrote:
  To see the names of all the services installed on your system:
  ls /etc/rc.d/init.d

 Using 'chkconfig --list' makes more sense than listing the init.d directory.

 chkconfig --list doesn't necessarily list all the services in /etc/rc.d/init.d

It does list all that were properly registered. If a service is not
listed by chkconfig --list, it means it was not registered with
chkconfig --add, and it probably means that there was a problem while
installing the package. AFAIK, if it does not show in chkconfig --list
you will not be able to activate it with 'chkconfig service on'
either.

Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] Processes to disable

2009-04-13 Thread Bogdan Nicolescu





- Original Message 
 From: Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:29:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Processes to disable
 
 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:03, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote:
   To see the names of all the services installed on your system:
   ls /etc/rc.d/init.d
 
  Using 'chkconfig --list' makes more sense than listing the init.d 
  directory.
 
  chkconfig --list doesn't necessarily list all the services in 
  /etc/rc.d/init.d
 
 It does list all that were properly registered. If a service is not
 listed by chkconfig --list, it means it was not registered with
 chkconfig --add, and it probably means that there was a problem while
 installing the package. AFAIK, if it does not show in chkconfig --list
 you will not be able to activate it with 'chkconfig on'
 either.
 
 Filipe

Not properly registered with chkconfig doesn't necessarily mean that a service 
is not installed.

service --status-all 
is probably a better choice inĀ finding the status of all the scripts in init.d, 
and not just those registered withc chkconfig.

bn
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[CentOS] Processes to disable

2009-04-09 Thread David Lemcoe
I was told by some more-experienced Cent users that there are a bunch
of processes I should kill and get out of the startup folder. He said
that Cent (even with a small install) has a bunch of processes that
really aren't needed and just burn up processes. Which ones should I
get rid of for just a webserver? MySQL server?

Thanks.
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Re: [CentOS] Processes to disable

2009-04-09 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
Hi David,

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:21 PM, David Lemcoe fo...@lemcoe.com wrote:
 I was told by some more-experienced Cent users that there are a bunch
 of processes I should kill and get out of the startup folder. He said
 that Cent (even with a small install) has a bunch of processes that
 really aren't needed and just burn up processes. Which ones should I
 get rid of for just a webserver? MySQL server?

Depends on what you've installed and what you need.

Serviceconf is a nice way of graphically checking what background and
on-demand services are configured for your system and what they are.

If you don't need MySQL or Web servers, you should have not installed
them from start. :-)

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Re: [CentOS] Processes to disable

2009-04-09 Thread David Lemcoe
Thanks for the tool. I have two servers, a just Apache/FTP and a
MySQL. I was told that I can basically have NOTHING except for the
daemon running, but that seems a little extreme :)

Thanks again,

David

On 4/9/09, Hakan Koseoglu hakan.koseo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi David,

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:21 PM, David Lemcoe fo...@lemcoe.com wrote:
 I was told by some more-experienced Cent users that there are a bunch
 of processes I should kill and get out of the startup folder. He said
 that Cent (even with a small install) has a bunch of processes that
 really aren't needed and just burn up processes. Which ones should I
 get rid of for just a webserver? MySQL server?

 Depends on what you've installed and what you need.

 Serviceconf is a nice way of graphically checking what background and
 on-demand services are configured for your system and what they are.

 If you don't need MySQL or Web servers, you should have not installed
 them from start. :-)

 --
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