Re: [CentOS] Re: several servers

2008-06-05 Thread Luke S Crawford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 ok..i can install dovecot+postfix+MYSQL..etc..and maybe the problem it's
 resolve.
 i don't have problem with the machines, the machines are goods, my problem
 is the tranparent receive e-mails to the users than are distributed in
 four machines with the same number the users and different users in each.
 as does google??. they have one entry to e-mail system (gmail.com) but
 they have several machine (maybe thousands) in transparent mode.
 i read something like LVS...some comment about this software..! is my
 solution or I'm lost?
 Roberto.-

many ways to do this.  


The easiest option is to put customers on mail1.isp.com ... have
the server at isp.com just have a bunch of aliases pointing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ... 

the disadvantages are that the end users need to know to set their
pop/imap clients to maily.isp.com, where y will be different for  different
users, and your aliases file will get big, and moving users from one
mailserver to another gets complicated (usually you put everyone on mail1
until it is almost full, then you put all new users on mail2, until it gets
full, etc...)  but incoming mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will work, and this is by 
far the easiest to set up and it will scale pretty well.

at an ISP where I worked during the .com, we did this, but we wanted all 
users to go to mail.isp.com to get their mail.  we wrote a little C program 
that  listened on port 113 until the pop client issued 'user username'  and
then did a lookup (in the aliases file, incidentally... this got really
slow after we passed a million accounts-  I re-wrote it to use MySQL and 
things performed ok again)  to see where the user was and forwarded the 
rest of the pop3 session to the correct server.  Really this is a minor
tweak and only saves you the trouble of making your users know which mailserver
they need to connect to.


Finally, do a search on Cyrus murder essentially the cyrus mailserver 
includes support for clustering your mailservers.  It's not redundant 
(e.g. if you loose a physical server you can loose data) but it performs 
well, from what I hear. Cyrus is generally considered to be an 
'industrial strength' mailserver.
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[CentOS] Re: several servers

2008-06-03 Thread roberto . barrientos
ok..i can install dovecot+postfix+MYSQL..etc..and maybe the problem it's
resolve.
i don't have problem with the machines, the machines are goods, my problem
is the tranparent receive e-mails to the users than are distributed in
four machines with the same number the users and different users in each.
as does google??. they have one entry to e-mail system (gmail.com) but
they have several machine (maybe thousands) in transparent mode.
i read something like LVS...some comment about this software..! is my
solution or I'm lost?
Roberto.-


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Roberto Barrientos Molina
Administración TIC
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UMAG

NOTA: Los acentos han sido omitidos intencionalmente.-

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Re: [CentOS] Re: several servers

2008-06-03 Thread Christopher Chan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ok..i can install dovecot+postfix+MYSQL..etc..and maybe the problem it's
resolve.
i don't have problem with the machines, the machines are goods, my problem
is the tranparent receive e-mails to the users than are distributed in
four machines with the same number the users and different users in each.
as does google??. they have one entry to e-mail system (gmail.com) but
they have several machine (maybe thousands) in transparent mode.
i read something like LVS...some comment about this software..! is my
solution or I'm lost?
Roberto.-




dude, fairly distributing users is hard to determine. The mailbox is 
created before its activity levels can be known. You have no idea how 
frequently it will be used or how much it will eventually store. You are 
better off implementing a central storage store with a GFS front end to 
it and then you do not have to worry so much about fairly distributing 
the load...at least that is what I hope GFS will accomplish since I have 
not personally deployed GFS anywhere. Otherwise, you will have to do 
maintenance now and then to redistribute the load over the four machines.



As for 'one entry'...you do not seem to know much about dns, smtp, and 
http proxies in general do you? Of course, this has nothing to do with 
the way Google does its stuff.

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