Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-22 Thread Gionatan Danti

Il 2021-06-22 02:34 Gordon Messmer ha scritto:

CentOS Stream is not a rolling release.  It gets "rolling updates,"
but that just means that there are no point releases within a major
release, and that updates aren't delayed in order to group rebased
packages together at 6 month intervals.


Hi Gordon,
yeah, I used the term "rolling release" in a too-broad sense - I was 
really referring to "rolling updates", sorry for the confusion.


Still I think my point applies: if metadata for security updates were 
not provided before, it now seems even less probable than the CentOS 
team will provide such information, as the maintainers are facing a 
continuous stream of updates.


But hey - happy to be proven wrong!
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Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-21 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 6/21/21 4:53 AM, Gionatan Danti wrote:
Historically the CentOS team refused to provide such metadata due to 
the added work required. Now with Stream, and the demise of classic 
CentOS, security updates are even less probable (ie: a rolling release 
is often wholly updated). 



CentOS Stream is not a rolling release.  It gets "rolling updates," but 
that just means that there are no point releases within a major release, 
and that updates aren't delayed in order to group rebased packages 
together at 6 month intervals.



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Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-21 Thread Simon Matter
> Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am using CENTOS 7.
> This should receive the Red Hat Update cycle releases until 2024, right?

Yes, but if you only want to install security related updates, you have to
select the packages on your own because CentOS doesn't provide such
metadata.

Regards,
Simon

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> Il 2021-06-21 13:34 Pete Biggs ha scritto:
>> CentOS does not provide the metadata to allow the --security flag to
>> work.
>
> Right.
>
>> It doesn't provide it because that information from Redhat is
>> proprietary and not open source.
>
> This is not my understanding. From what I can see, updates which patches
> CVEs are freely readable on Red Has site. For example:
> CVE: https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/cve-2021-3156
> UPDATE: https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2021:0221
>
> Historically the CentOS team refused to provide such metadata due to the
> added work required. Now with Stream, and the demise of classic CentOS,
> security updates are even less probable (ie: a rolling release is often
> wholly updated).
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Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-21 Thread Lange, Markus
Hi,

freely does not imply free to redistribute. Of course these
informations are available from various sources which allow
redistribution, but it takes time to aggregate them - time that someone
need to spend doing the necessary research.

best regards,
Markus

On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 13:53 +0200, Gionatan Danti wrote:
> Il 2021-06-21 13:34 Pete Biggs ha scritto:
> > CentOS does not provide the metadata to allow the --security flag
> > to
> > work.
> 
> Right.
> 
> > It doesn't provide it because that information from Redhat is
> > proprietary and not open source.
> 
> This is not my understanding. From what I can see, updates which
> patches 
> CVEs are freely readable on Red Has site. For example:
> CVE: https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/cve-2021-3156
> UPDATE: https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2021:0221
> 
> Historically the CentOS team refused to provide such metadata due to
> the 
> added work required. Now with Stream, and the demise of classic
> CentOS, 
> security updates are even less probable (ie: a rolling release is
> often 
> wholly updated).
> 
> Regards.
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Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-21 Thread Doczkal, Thomas
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am using CENTOS 7.
This should receive the Red Hat Update cycle releases until 2024, right?

Regards,
Thomas

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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

Il 2021-06-21 13:34 Pete Biggs ha scritto:
> CentOS does not provide the metadata to allow the --security flag to
> work.

Right.

> It doesn't provide it because that information from Redhat is
> proprietary and not open source.

This is not my understanding. From what I can see, updates which patches
CVEs are freely readable on Red Has site. For example:
CVE: https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/cve-2021-3156
UPDATE: https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2021:0221

Historically the CentOS team refused to provide such metadata due to the
added work required. Now with Stream, and the demise of classic CentOS,
security updates are even less probable (ie: a rolling release is often
wholly updated).

Regards.

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Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-21 Thread Gionatan Danti

Il 2021-06-21 13:34 Pete Biggs ha scritto:

CentOS does not provide the metadata to allow the --security flag to
work.


Right.


It doesn't provide it because that information from Redhat is
proprietary and not open source.


This is not my understanding. From what I can see, updates which patches 
CVEs are freely readable on Red Has site. For example:

CVE: https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/cve-2021-3156
UPDATE: https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2021:0221

Historically the CentOS team refused to provide such metadata due to the 
added work required. Now with Stream, and the demise of classic CentOS, 
security updates are even less probable (ie: a rolling release is often 
wholly updated).


Regards.

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Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-21 Thread Pete Biggs
> 
> There are probably more security updates which should be installed by
> yum --security but those are the packages I am most interested in.
> 
> Please change as necessary to allow yum --security to work.
> 
CentOS does not provide the metadata to allow the --security flag to
work.

It doesn't provide it because that information from Redhat is
proprietary and not open source.

P.


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[CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-21 Thread Doczkal, Thomas
Hi,

I assumed that it's possible to install security updates with "yum --security 
update".
On the centos-announce mailinglist and I have received several security updates 
recently.
Most are not relevant for us but glib2 and kernel are two we would like to 
address without updating the whole system.

Unfortunately both glib2 and kernel updates are filtered while running yum 
--security update

This is the output:
 --> glib2-2.56.1-9.el7_9.x86_64 from updates removed (updateinfo)
 --> kernel-3.10.0-1160.31.1.el7.x86_64 from updates removed (updateinfo)   

There are probably more security updates which should be installed by yum 
--security but those are the packages I am most interested in.

Please change as necessary to allow yum --security to work.

Many thanks.

Best Regards,
Thomas


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