Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Emmanuel Borlet wrote: Emmanuel Borlet Le 03/03/08 17:36, « Dan Carl » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Heard someone mention free beer, had to participate. CentOS, we find RedHat's bugs CentOS, the OS that makes sense. Why not ? CentOS, we FIX RedHat's bugs Because we cannot fix them. We have to wait until Red Hat fixes them. We can send patches though, but that doesn't fix anything until they get included. So I guess that statement would be misleading at best. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Matt Shields wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Dan Carl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heard someone mention free beer, had to participate. CentOS, we find RedHat's bugs CentOS, the OS that makes sense. I know that everyone seems to think any mention of RH is cute and funny, but it's just asking for a lawsuit. Does anyone remember LinuxWorld Expo in Boston a couple years ago when RH was releasing RHEL4. No? I do, because that's when CentOS got a letter from RH legal department asking to remove all references to their name and I was the one sitting in the LinuxWorld booth trying to justify to people that CentOS was a valid project and not just stealing someone else's IP. If CentOS wants to be taken seriously, especially by big business, you don't do it by biting the hand that feeds you and creating bad publicity. Referring to RH without their permission is just begging for RH to sue us. Drop the RH jokes and push CentOS on it's merit as a stable enterprise OS with a great community behind it. Also without RH, CentOS wouldn't be. They make it very easy to obtain the sources in a manner that makes it easy to build CentOS by releasing complete SRPMs. There's nothing saying RH has to release the code this way. They could make it very difficult for groups like CentOS, WhiteBox, and Scientific Linux. Be nice to RH and buy a license here and there when it makes sense. They have their place in the food chain, as do we. The situation is not as black-and-white as portrayed here. Of course CentOS can only exist because of Red Hat. That is in fact the whole idea behind CentOS. But it makes no sense that CentOS cannot tell what it is (read: identity crisis), even not reference Red Hat. Even Microsoft or Novell can mention Red Hat, so why can't CentOS ? I doubt there is a legal basis for what people read into Red Hat's letter. Anyone can refer to Red Hat as long as they do not imply they _are_ Red Hat, or are endorsed by Red Hat. If CentOS would state that: CentOS is compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux. You imply that: 1. You are *not* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2. You are not Red Hat. If CentOS would state that: CentOS is a rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux sources. You imply that; 1. You are *not* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2. You are not Red Hat Even if we would add that: CentOS is not Red Hat and is not endorsed by Red Hat or even Red Hat Enterprise Linux is a trademark owned by Red Hat and put at (TM) sign on top, is all fine and legally dandy and we should not fear any legal repercusion. What is more, CentOS is actually enlarging the Red Hat community, is offering nice additional packages and fuctionality on top of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and CentOS allows people to learn and use RHEL without having to purchase it (think of IT consultants and students/schools). I am the first person to encourage companies to buy licenses for everything that requires support and is business/mission critical. But this whole 'we cannot reference Red Hat because of legal difficulties or because of gratitude' is not helping CentOS at all. And therefor it is not helping Red Hat either. CentOS is not in competition with Red Hat and Red Hat would not have existed without the Open Source community at large either. There is no need for eternal gratitude or eternal loyalty. Thank you very much :) -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
Heard someone mention free beer, had to participate. CentOS, we find RedHat's bugs CentOS, the OS that makes sense. Dan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Dan Carl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heard someone mention free beer, had to participate. CentOS, we find RedHat's bugs CentOS, the OS that makes sense. Dan I know that everyone seems to think any mention of RH is cute and funny, but it's just asking for a lawsuit. Does anyone remember LinuxWorld Expo in Boston a couple years ago when RH was releasing RHEL4. No? I do, because that's when CentOS got a letter from RH legal department asking to remove all references to their name and I was the one sitting in the LinuxWorld booth trying to justify to people that CentOS was a valid project and not just stealing someone else's IP. If CentOS wants to be taken seriously, especially by big business, you don't do it by biting the hand that feeds you and creating bad publicity. Referring to RH without their permission is just begging for RH to sue us. Drop the RH jokes and push CentOS on it's merit as a stable enterprise OS with a great community behind it. Also without RH, CentOS wouldn't be. They make it very easy to obtain the sources in a manner that makes it easy to build CentOS by releasing complete SRPMs. There's nothing saying RH has to release the code this way. They could make it very difficult for groups like CentOS, WhiteBox, and Scientific Linux. Be nice to RH and buy a license here and there when it makes sense. They have their place in the food chain, as do we. Just my $0.02 -- -matt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On 3/3/08, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 10:36 -0600, Dan Carl wrote: Heard someone mention free beer, had to participate. CentOS, we find RedHat's bugs CentOS, the OS that makes sense. Consistently Excellent No-cost Terrific Open Source (CENTOS) Can effectively nuke that Other System? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
Dag Wieers a écrit : The CentOS project is looking for more slogans that may end up on promotional material (eg media, flyers, posters or stickers). We already collected a few funny, ironic, sarcastic or even distasteful ones. Feel free to visit our Slogans wiki page for a good laugh or rude offenses and add your own slogan by sending them to this thread. cat /dev/enterprise | community CentOS ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Daniel de Kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/1/08, Dag Wieers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feel free to visit our Slogans wiki page for a good laugh or rude offenses and add your own slogan by sending them to this thread. I took the liberty to add two slogans to the page: * CentOS: No activation keys in the default install, in more than 4 years. * CentOS: Only two typos in the default install, in more than 4 years. One each by hughesjr and orc_orc -- Daniel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 02:16 +0100, Dag Wieers wrote: Hi everyone, The CentOS project is looking for more slogans that may end up on promotional material (eg media, flyers, posters or stickers). We already collected a few funny, ironic, sarcastic or even distasteful ones. It's Enterprise Linux that makes CentOS Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Dag Wieers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Akemi Yagi wrote: I would like to let you know that there is a forum thread that has collected a good number of slogans. Most of them have been added to the wiki page. See: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12702forum=18 We have a forum ? j/k Great ! Now I know where that surge in slogans came from when we were printing the labels for the FOSDEM LiveCDs ! Actually we took a slogan for the FOSDEM LiveCD from the forums it seems. CentOS: The Sysadmins choice Congratulations to NedSlider ! Please contact us for your IP address to get premium access to CentOS updates and free access to submit bugreports :-) -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- Greetings from the happy winner NedSlider: WOW, I get to file bug reports :D Thanks for the heads up - I'm not subscribed to that mailing list so would have missed it! Please feel free to pass my regards on to the list :) Ned ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Akemi Yagi wrote: * CentOS: Only two typos in the default install, in more than 4 years. One each by hughesjr and orc_orc We've been training Evolution, to get the count up. - R ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
CentOS: So good that Oracle made it their own. CentOS: Growing the value of Enterprise Linux. CentOS: You think you can do any better? Prove it! CentOS: What Red Hat should have done since Day 1. CentOS: Taking free to the next level. CentOS: Red Hat without rules. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/2008 02:16 AM, Dag Wieers wrote: Hi everyone, Hi Dag The CentOS project is looking for more slogans that may end up on promotional material (eg media, flyers, posters or stickers). We already collected a few funny, ironic, sarcastic or even distasteful ones. Feel free to visit our Slogans wiki page for a good laugh or rude offenses and add your own slogan by sending them to this thread. here my crap CentOS: RHELly without expensive and useless support center CentOS: ISV and IHV testing and certification without price tag CentOS: The far spreaded and popular RHEL CentOS: Without underpinning contract, but with smart community CentOS: High-available cluster computing for free CentOS: Enterprise-grade quality for zero bucks CentOS: Life without kernel panic, aka bluescreen CentOS: The dot in Web 2.0 CentOS: The better choice CentOS: Because security matters CentOS: Not a question but an answer! cheers Simon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHyZqpEMN/lNE/wrwRAoc7AJ9XBk+Ev1ziQ01vj65A9Kdiv46JBgCfagXB UAHR/x+9GszBt2UQ/FTRl/4= =amxe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos CentOS: Enterprise tested. Manager Approved. CentOS: Just like Jiffy(tm) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
Ross S. W. Walker wrote: CentOS, It's all about the community. -Ross - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: centos@centos.org centos@centos.org Sent: Fri Feb 29 20:16:22 2008 Subject: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today Hi everyone, The CentOS project is looking for more slogans that may end up on promotional material (eg media, flyers, posters or stickers). We already collected a few funny, ironic, sarcastic or even distasteful ones. Feel free to visit our Slogans wiki page for a good laugh or rude offenses and add your own slogan by sending them to this thread. See: http://wiki.centos.org/Promo/Slogans And who knows, yours may end up somewhere ? If it gets selected, you win free CentOS updates for a whole month !! So get started ;) Disclaimer: Ideas contributed to this thread are considered free to be reused. Otherwise do NOT submit them to a public mailinglist :) I will be adding them to the wiki. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos CentOS. The best compatibility, none of the costs. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
Ross S. W. Walker wrote: CentOS, It's all about the community. -Ross - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: centos@centos.org centos@centos.org Sent: Fri Feb 29 20:16:22 2008 Subject: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today Hi everyone, The CentOS project is looking for more slogans that may end up on promotional material (eg media, flyers, posters or stickers). We already collected a few funny, ironic, sarcastic or even distasteful ones. Feel free to visit our Slogans wiki page for a good laugh or rude offenses and add your own slogan by sending them to this thread. See: http://wiki.centos.org/Promo/Slogans And who knows, yours may end up somewhere ? If it gets selected, you win free CentOS updates for a whole month !! So get started ;) Disclaimer: Ideas contributed to this thread are considered free to be reused. Otherwise do NOT submit them to a public mailinglist :) I will be adding them to the wiki. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos CentOS. When you need enterprise uptime, without enterprise pricing. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, James A. Peltier wrote: CentOS. The best compatibility, none of the costs. Nice one ! I also added: CentOS: Full compatibility, empty price tag which is a bit snappier. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Send in your favorite CentOS slogan today
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Dag Wieers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CentOS project is looking for more slogans that may end up on promotional material (eg media, flyers, posters or stickers). We already collected a few funny, ironic, sarcastic or even distasteful ones. I would like to let you know that there is a forum thread that has collected a good number of slogans. Most of them have been added to the wiki page. See: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12702forum=18 We have a forum ? j/k Great ! Now I know where that surge in slogans came from when we were printing the labels for the FOSDEM LiveCDs ! Actually we took a slogan for the FOSDEM LiveCD from the forums it seems. CentOS: The Sysadmins choice Congratulations to NedSlider ! Please contact us for your IP address to get premium access to CentOS updates and free access to submit bugreports :-) -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
